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Doctor Cha: Episodes 9-10

A household breaks up, a mistress breaks down, and the revelation of a final secret might be enough to break our heroine’s whole life apart. Doctor Cha has upped the ante, proving itself to be a delightfully complex tangle — with a story that might seem a tad makjang, but also couldn’t get any truer to life.

 
EPISODES 9-10

Uhm Jung-hwa and Kim Byung-chul Doctor Cha: Episodes 9-10

Well, this drama has gone and shocked me. I was not prepared for how heartfelt it was going to be amidst all the humor. The story gets more intricate every week, refusing to let us be comfortable with seeing only one perspective, but the way the show leaves all the emotions unsorted this week is impressive.

We pick up where we left off, with Jung-sook walking into a restaurant to meet her family for her birthday dinner. While it looks like she’s got something on her mind (i.e., the fact that she’s just learned of her husband’s affair), she doesn’t say anything. Instead, she’s cavalier — until she smashes In-ho’s face into her birthday cake.

The crazier (but hilarious) part is that then she just laughs maniacally, saying it’s something she’s always wanted to do for fun. Everyone looks perplexed but goes along as if it’s a joke because they have no idea how else to respond. Although, later, Ae-shim complains, “I know times have changed but how can she do that in front of her mother-in-law?” Haha. Oh Ae-shim, I have a feeling it’s not the worst you’re going to see from her.

For us, it marks the first of a series of events where we see Jung-sook assert herself, in big ways and small, and begin to question what she actually wants. Throughout these episodes, she never confronts In-ho about the affair. But she does give herself some space to really consider her values and what actions she wants to take.

First, she moves out of the family house and into the resident dorms, using the long commute to the hospital as an excuse. When her mother-in-law protests, asking who will take care of the house, Jung-sook stands up for herself, telling Ae-shim she should find a housekeeper that meets her standards, or else lower her standards. (I found this so gratifying — and all the more because it wasn’t played for comedy.)

Once she’s got a little separation from her roles at home, we see her assertiveness take shape in other ways. For instance, when Dr. Kim reveals that he also knows about In-ho’s affair, he asks why she’s staying quiet about it. Jung-sook responds that she wants to keep the peace in her family because of her kids, and adds, “So don’t look at me like I’m a pathetic woman.” And I mean, as much as I want her to give the good-looking doc a chance, I agree: it’s her choice how she wants to handle it.

But even if she’s firm with Dr. Kim, a few things tell us she’s really still deciding the best course of action. We see her meet with a divorce lawyer (who tells her she needs evidence if she wants to win in court) and we also see a crushing conversation with her mother — which points out just how much things have changed from one generation to the next.

Her mom (whom I otherwise love) is of the mind that wives should stick with their husbands, no matter what, because they are the fathers of their children. Jung-sook is acting on this mindset for now as well, but her tears make me think that she’s torn. On one hand, there’s the “right” thing to do. And on the other, she’s still sorting out what she truly believes in (with Dr. Kim being the angel on her other shoulder).

To complicate things, while Jung-sook is trying to get some distance and focus on her residency, everyone at the hospital finds out that she’s really In-ho’s wife and Jung-min’s mom. The leadup to this is that, once Jung-sook leaves the house, In-ho takes a sudden, jealous interest in her. We all know Dr. Kim has the hots for Jung-sook — and pretty much everyone at the hospital knows it too — but now, In-ho wants to keep a watchful eye on them.

When a group of doctors goes to the countryside to volunteer their medical services, they end up spending the night there, and a few of them get a little too drunk. In-ho, one of the inebriated, yells, “Yeobo!” into a microphone and gestures for Jung-sook to join him and Dr. Kim singing. Jung-sook is sober, but realizes that what’s done is done and decides to just go with it.

One outcome of everyone knowing about their marriage is that their colleagues are suddenly overly accommodating, “allowing” In-ho and Jung-sook to sit together at events. But a more pertinent outcome is its effect on Seung-hee. When we left her last week, she was about to enter the restaurant where Jung-sook’s birthday party was underway. In the end, she decides to leave — because she’s had a disheartening epiphany while watching In-ho celebrate with his wife.

On her way home, Seung-hee cries in the car and I found it really heartbreaking. She’s been holding onto a false hope for a long time and it’s like the fog is finally clearing. At home, she sleeps next to her daughter with silent tears in her eyes, and I think it’s the first time she’s realizing what she’s put Eun-seo through.

Later, Seung-hee is hospitalized with severe stomach cramps, which turn out to be stress related, but In-ho can’t be reached because he’s in the countryside volunteering. When Seung-hee recovers, she apologizes to Eun-seo and says she always wanted to create a complete family for her, which is why she held onto In-ho. Eun-seo, speaking truth as always, says, “It’s not that I needed a father. You needed a husband.” She tells her mother that she doesn’t want anything from In-ho and wonders when she’ll come to her senses.

All of this makes Seung-hee shift perspectives and when she learns that In-ho’s marriage to Jung-sook is public knowledge, it’s the final straw. She meets In-ho for dinner and asks if he plans to get a divorce. He answers in the negative by saying Jung-sook hasn’t done anything wrong, so he can’t ask her for a divorce. (What an egotist! Like he’s so great to hold onto.) Seung-hee responds by returning the bracelet he bought for her and saying they should take some time to think. But on her infamous Instagram, she makes it known she’s ending a relationship.

There’s a secondary negative effect of Jung-sook’s real identity coming out at the hospital and it’s that So-ra is really mad at Jung-min. It’s complicated because So-ra acts tough, but we see she’s feeling a little ashamed about mouthing off so much to her boyfriend’s mom. To save face, she decides not to back down on her treatment of Jung-sook. But Jung-min interprets this to mean that So-ra isn’t serious about him. Unable to admit she’s embarrassed, So-ra doubles down and says it’s not like they’re getting married.

This leads to a beautifully realistic argument where Jung-min says he wishes she would look around sometimes and be kind and compassionate to people who aren’t as competent as she is (and I love how he manages to compliment her in the middle of this). She retorts that he’s a poor judge of character because he should know she’s not like that. However, we’ve seen glimpses that she has a heart under all that armor.

Uhm Jung-hwa Doctor Cha: Episodes 9-10

And So-ra gets to show her heart when Jung-sook has an absolute bomb dropped on her. In one of my least favorite aspects of the story, Eun-seo and Yi-rang now hate each other and fight all the time. This week, Yi-rang pushes Eun-seo down, injuring her badly enough to need a cast on her arm.

When Seung-hee goes rushing off to see what happened, In-ho is with her. Jung-sook secretly follows them to the medical center and overhears Eun-seo call In-ho dad and say that Yi-rang is the one who did this to her. In an instant, Jung-sook has learned that In-ho has another child, and it’s pretty clear everyone else already knows about it. She then makes her way to a stairwell, where she can cry and hyperventilate in peace.

But this is not the end, my friends. Jung-sook peels herself up and goes back to the dorms, but just can’t make herself go inside. Instead, she sits on a bench, feeling like she can’t breathe. Just then, So-ra pulls up in her drop-top and says, “You look suffocated. Let’s go for a drive.”

The two women speed through the city with the top down, and Jung-sook feels like she can breathe again. Then it suddenly pours rain, but the roof gets stuck down, causing them to get soaked. They start to squabble, but the situation is so ridiculous that Jung-sook cracks up laughing in spite of everything. We end with So-ra and Jung-sook laughing and just letting it be, as they continue to drive around in the rain, top down, hands up.

Uhm Jung-hwa Doctor Cha: Episodes 9-10

That last scene was my favorite moment in my favorite set of episodes so far. I love So-ra and I’m rooting for Jung-sook, and I want these two to be friends so badly — they both can learn a lot from each other. The other beautiful thing about the last scene is that Jung-min asked So-ra to have some compassion and we get to see that she does — and she’s doing this because she likes him just as much as he likes her. These two are so entering my list of top side couples.

Overall, there was so much heartache in these episodes from all angles. Jung-sook and Seung-hee, and both of their daughters, are bearing the brunt of it. But Jung-min and So-ra had their heart-hurting moment too. And poor Dr. Kim is still sitting in the sidecar with is heart on his sleeve. The drama has always been quick with under-the-radar jabs, but these episodes were much more emotionally driven. I feel something building, but I don’t know where it’s headed — and I’ve never been so happy to be uncomfortably unsure.

Uhm Jung-hwa and Kim Byung-chul Doctor Cha: Episodes 9-10

 
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I truly never understand why things are as successful as they are haha. I caught up on all the available episodes because I saw that she finally learned of the affair and I do not get why it's a record smashing show. I mean good for them; it's awesome for a show to be a success and I know it takes alot of effort from everyone involved and they deserve kudos.

Anywho, the actual episode(s), I was not expecting EVERYONE to find out everything before she did. That must add another layer of embarrassment/humiliation to the entire situation. I still think Seung Hui is a bit of a complicated character. I think it is probably easy to write her off as the bad guy because she's the mistress but I still feel a bit bad for her. She's so in love with a jerk (putting that super nicely) and she couldn't let go of the dream she had of having a happily ever after family unit with him. I initially thought they had King Charles & Camilla vibes and minus the love child, I still kinda think that. I think she thought if she just played her part and waited long enough, things would work out for her.

The real "bad guy" to me is the husband. He cheated on both of them as if he couldn't possibly control his body. Then he has the audacity to get jealous and/or clingy when either try to separate from him. His behavior is textbook selfishness.

The mother in law seems to be falling for a scam. If it's not, I'll be quite surprised. Again, I get that scams are bad yet I'm not feeling bad for the would be victim but instead it's like they brought it on themselves trying to be greedy. I think the guy used some angle of them only being respected if they had money in hand but it's all just about being money hungry.

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There's something Dr. Cha(the execution) does that is very confusing at times. I do not really know whether a scene playing out is real or a figment of imagination. Last week, it was the affair and love child reveal that I-rang encountered, and this week it was the scene at the hotel luncheon where Jung-seok shoved In-ho's face into the cake. In both scenes I was left wondering whether it was a real sequence or a sequence of what the characters would have loved to play out. Perhaps because I'm used to those scenes playing out as a fragment of what a character wishes to do but doesn't.

I believe it's time for me to start seeing So-ra differently. She's not in my good books for all the jerk things she's done but she's now on probation. Plus, it was nice and a great deal of fresh air to see Jung-min be explicitly vocal to her.

I really hope Seung-hui is waking up for real this time.

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It's a pity that Dr Cha didn't push In-ho's head into the cake until Jung-min had finished taking photos. It would have been the perfect family photo.
In a way, I found it very satisfying that Dr Cha left her husband and mother-in-law in uncertainty about whether she knew about the affair or not. It was the perfect torture for the two of them.

Actually, I'm pretty sure Dr Cha will break up with Mann in the end, he's done too many unforgivable things for that and would be portrayed as an idiot too often, but sometimes doubts do creep in. But that's how the drama manages to keep the tension high.
I hope that Dr Cha does not follow the advice of her mother, who embodies the older generation, but is able to break away from her husband and his mother with the support of So-ra, the younger generation.

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I think when she sees her children are grown up and don’t need a married family to have a career or a father it would make it easier on her. At the moment she isn’t sure of her children’s feelings. She is in the mother mode trying to protect her children. But they really don’t need her protection.

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I think she already sees them as grownups. You remember the scene where she left her staying in the house or moving to the dorms solely dependent on whether I-rang was cool with it. I-rang saying yes is growth in and of itself. I hope we will not have a situation whereby she has to ask Jung-min the same question.

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Right. Now that she knows her kids knew about the affair might change the way she approaches this. She just needs to talk to them. Jung min will obviously support her decision whatever be it.

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I didn't get the impression that her mother recommended staying with In-Ho, but rather that "in her day" that's what wives did. She still doesn't know the full extent of the rotten husband's behavior.

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You also have to take in count that if she asks for a divorce, she needs to find evidence that her husband cheated on her and it's the one to blame, because all the assets the family has are his. She has nothing on her name (but a loan), so if she divorces and doesn't get anything after being a mother and a housewife for more than 20 years, she can't just divorce.
You need to be economically independent to survive a divorce, and right now she's not. She needs to finish residency first.
She's not stupid, she knows her husband doesn't love her, has been avoiding being intimate with her for ages, treats her as the housemaid. She knows. But right now she's in no position to ask for a divorce.

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In-ho is shameless in getting jealous now that someone is showing interest in his wife and giving Jung-sook gifts now that she has moved out. I know that In-ho was drunk when he revealed their relationship, but it was deliberately done to one-up Dr. Roy.

I really can't understand why the family never suspected that Jung-sook knows by the way she acted during her birthday dinner, especially crying, then moving out of the house. I was so disappointed in Jung-min when Jung-sook got out of the car, and In-ho told him to follow her out, but Jung-min didn't get out. I cringed when Mom told Jung-sook that women should stay with their husbands, not because they're their husbands, but because they're the fathers of their children.

The taxi driver was the real MVP of this episode. "You need to see things to the end to be able to start anew" is advice everybody needs to live by. Isn't Eun-seo, a love child, the best evidence to prove her husband's cheating?

The drama wants us to sympathize with Seung-hee, but I don't. I just find Seung-hee to be pathetic. Is this worth it over a man, and over Seo In-ho of all men?

I'm 100% on our heroine's side, but this show makes me conflicted because Jung-sook was also the third party. In the flashback of their wedding, all I could think was there's no way that they were in love with each other since it was a shotgun marriage.

I love So-ra. I know that she's a hard-ass, but she's competent, and obviously Jung-min loves her. I like to think that she was mad not because Jung-min hid the truth from her or because she realized that she had mistreated her boyfriend's mom, but because now she can put a face to the name of her professor's wife that she knows is being cheated on.

A big thanks for recapping, @Dramaddictally!

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I don't think Seo Eun Seo can be proof of the affair at least in the court of public opinion because Choi Seung Hi can just say that she was a her previous marriage ( which is what she's been telling everyone including her own daughter ).

Yeah, a DNA test can be done to prove it but then again it's just the person's word unless you carry the report on yourself and pull it out every time you gossip about Seung Hi or In ho.

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Not the court of public opinion but the legal court, which would carry through the grapevine at least to the people that they know.

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I don't think that in any court in any country a someone can ask for a DNA test to prove that a third party is the father of someone. So if EunSeo and her mum are denying who the father is no one can force them to reveal that, only the father.

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The problem with So Ra us that it wouldve been impressive if she had just felt bad for being such a horrible person. But she is only feeling bad because she did it to her future mother in law. Having met and suffered from a lot of people like her, I will reserve my feelings

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The taxi driver was on point. Lol. Helps to have an experienced driver at times.

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I also appreciated Jung Min and Sora’s taxi driver, when Sora got out and the driver asked Jung Min “should we wait for her?” 😂 it was such a kdrama moment.

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Lol. These taxi drivers were like ‘been there done that’. They know the drill.

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taxi drivers in the dr cha universe have kdrama awareness its insanely funny to see that

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Agreed, it sucks that Seung-hee was cheated on, but at some point she could have moved on. She's been doing it to herself all these years. And that "pretend" marriage, especially the social media portion, was really pathetic. Seung-hee lost my sympathy when she abused her position of power over Jeong-suk.

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I can forgive the one time mistake when young. I get it she slept with a married man whom she loved when young. But choosing to have an affair with the said man after so many years knowing very well the consequence of her actions was just wrong.
She should have atleast clarified with him if he plans to divorce the wife and marry her. Nope. She is in denial and is living a fake life.

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Unpopular opinion

I don't think Dr cha should divorce Seo In ho ( just yet ) for the reason of " You suffer with me '' and not give him a divorce because we know he's not happy in the marriage and that's precisely what Choi Seung Hi ( the mistress ) wants.

Because if she gives him a divorce we know Seo In Ho will immediately marry Seung hi and they will get off scot-free, no one will know they had a years-long affair and had a child together and if anyone asks they can just deny it, and Dr cha will get the label of a divorcee or why she divorce just a great man and family etc, so it seems like Dr cha is losing in the end. Versus if she exposes the affair while still married to In Ho then things change because it shows what kind of person he is while his wife was nothing but a faithful and caring mother We know the thing Seo In Ho cares about the most, more than his own family is his Status, Reputation and title. Take that away and he will get real justice and feel the weight of his actions. I don't these are just my thoughts.

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I agree with you on that front. Getting a divorce won't affect In-ho the slightest bit. Still, staying in a marriage like that is too much to bear.

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I don't agree with this at all. In Ho would definitely be affected because it would affect his image which is what he and his mother care about most. There's still a shame and stimga attached to divorce and if it were also revealed that he cheated AND had a child with his mistress who also worked in the same hospital, he would be gossip fodder and not taken as seriously.

The same way his own son's respect for him evaporated.

Also given how things have played out, it's nof to be assumed that Seung Hui would just welcome him with open arms and it's not like they could've instantly gotten married because again, image.

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I'm not so sure that In-ho would actually marry Seung-hi. For him, the current situation is very comfortable because he doesn't have to make a decision and can talk his way out of it by saying that divorce is not possible for him.
But as soon as he is divorced, Seung hi can demand a decision from him. And at the latest, if it damages his reputation in the hospital that he marries his mistress, he will turn tail very quickly.

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I agree with you

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That she should hold off on the divorce

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I don't think Dr Cha should 'cut her nose to spite their face'. I don't think she will do that either, she is too smart for that. She is just looking for the best way to end the marriage, because it will affect the people she cares for as well. In-ho might not be on this list.

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The face in cake moment was hilarious. I thought she was imagining doing it, but I guess she actually did it. You go girl!! Slapping him with his own hands was awesome as hell.
Every time Seung-Hi cried I tried to feel bad for her, but all I could think was, you made a choice to break up a family. This trauma is what you deserve. What’s with showing her daughter’s picture to In-Ho’s mom?
Loved that In-Ho had a real bad day at the camp. It was hilarious how he kept looking at that finger, or when Dr. McDreamy inadvertently kisses In-Ho’s cheek and then turns away to furiously wipe his lips.
As much as I hate In-Ho, Kim Byung-chul is such a good actor, that I can’t help admiring him. The expressions he conjures up are entertaining.
At the rest stop where she sits in a chair with white wings and he with black wings, guess they were going for symbolism.
When Jung min looks his father up and down and says he can’t compete, I fell off my chair laughing.

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Those moments all made me LOL, esp when she slapped him w his own hand 🤣

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She does not know that the Mom is Jung-sook's. To her she is a motherly patient and they bonded over talks about their daughters and being a mother. Jungsook's Mom also does not know who Seunghee really is and she did not reveal who her doctor daughter is. Showing your child's picture to someone you consider as a kindred spirit seems normal to me.

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I meant when she showed it to In Hos mother after she told her to stay away from her fakily

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Oh,my mistake. Sorry. Re that scene though, Seunghee must have thought that the MIL was a reasonable person who will took pity on her granddaughter. Little does she know that she actually got lucky she did not end up with the MIL from hell.

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I could rewatch the cake scene over and over again. Dr Cha's action came really out of the blue and In-ho's face was showing all the emotions from shock and anger to bewilderment, suspicion that his wife knows the truth to uncertainty what he should do now. Kim Byung-chul really displayed his wonderful acting ability in this short scene!

I also like the MIL more and more, the actress is a sure hand at playing the MIL from hell, but there is also humour in her performance here. I knew she could do more than shrill and horrible.

I like how Dr Cha is not rushing any decision about her marriage. She now understands the complexity of the situation and that her kids also have a half sister. This girl is in a difficult place, too and I like how she is trying to make her mother realize how wrong things are at the moment.

I don't think Dr Cha will sail into the sunset with charming Dr Kim. The divorce will come, but her path will be to become a fully qualified doctor and an independent woman (maybe with Dr Kim at her side after some time).

In-ho will surely be without a wife or a mistress. He can do the cleaning and cooking for his mother.

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I am in the same boat. I think she will find her own path to happiness and that won’t include Dr.Kim right away. The show might leave it open ended with a potential for them to get together but I highly doubt she can move on to a new relationship any time soon even after a divorce. It will take a lot of time for her to move on from here, heal her scars and find her own footing.

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And that would be the best boat, after all.
One can only be happy if they find happiness inside, jumping from a broken relationship into another is not the correct way to act: heal your wounds first, learn to live on your own, find what you like to do, be a woman before a mum and a wife, and then and only then, find the time to date that hot Dr. Kim and be naughty with him.

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Is Dr. Kim attracted to our FL subconsciously because he is looking for his bio mother?

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I don't think so, in the show she is only three years older than him.

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In-ho deserves a hundred more slaps with the way he remains oblivious when Jung-sook has been dropping subtle hints that she knows about his tryst.

The latest episodes made me more convinced that Jung-sook’s family didn’t reveal In-ho’s affair for her own good but to maintain the peace of the family and their own pride. This was further evidenced in the way none of them accompanied her when she got out of the car (but at the same time she really needed some time alone to cry out her feelings). And it makes me think that they really don’t know her despite all these years because they justify their silence by saying she’s fragile, but we could see how she sought advice and tried to distance herself from her household in order to construct her life and identity outside of being a wife and mother, even if it wasn’t easy for her. Also, I was wondering what is the purpose of having a best friend if they cannot listen and support you in a situation like this? Even if Jung-sook is the type to internalize her pain for the expense of others, it wasn't realistic that she never thought of turning to Mi-hee to see her point in how to process things. At least, she has Dr. Jeon as an ally.

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I think she's too ashamed to face Mi-hee right now

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I don't think it was for their own pride. How would keeping her in the dark help *their* pride?

Them not following her out the car could just be seen as not knowing what to do, given that she had just been teary and emotional, and giving her space. I think the kids are genuinely worried about her emotional wellbeing and physical health which is why they didn't want the affair and love child revealed.

The husband and his mother just care about image. If Doctor Cha found out, she could file for divorce which would tarnish their image and then the practical stuff such as it would be revealed that property is in Doctor Cha's name so legally its hers.

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Jung-sook‘s actions after learning about the affair felt real to me. Watching her processing the news and slowly getting a grip on herself has been heartbreaking to watch. Amidst all this how she manages to keep face in front of the hospital staff is beyond me!

Mother in law meeting the mistress was such a short scene but so well done.

It’s sad that Seung Hee took this long to face the reality. That she waited for years to ask him if he plans to divorce his wife. Took her this many years to see how he cared for his ‘perfect’ family.

Agree. It was great to see Jung Min and So Ra’s relationship this episode. And I am glad he was honest with her. It wasn’t a relationship where she always had an upper hand. Sometimes one needs a good fight to move forward in a relationship. I have been looking forward to SoRa and Cha bonding and so glad we got it now. She needs this voice of reason in her life right now.

In Ho. Tsk tsk. As much as I hated him I see he is stuck in a place where he can’t do anything. Or he doesn’t want to do anything. He is a coward. Someone else had to make the decision for him. I hope Cha kicks him to the curb. And Seung-Hee leaves to US soon.

Lol moment. Cha asking In Ho when he plans to die. His face. 😂

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I feel like so many things happened in Episode 9 that didn't need to happen to move the story along—like we were subjected to so much filler. Maybe I'm just impatient; it's now gotten to the point where I just want to know how this ends.

I suppose the whole point of the volunteering trip was to let Seung-hee experience what it's like when In-ho isn't available to her. In a way, it helps her see unmistakably that he has done nothing but disappoint her repeatedly, and also gives her a taste of what Dr. Cha felt when In-ho went with Seung-hee on their conference trip when Dr. Cha was admitted. I really hope Seung-hee comes to her senses and ends their relationship regardless of how things turn out between In-ho and Dr. Cha.

I don't think I noticed it before this episode, but the scenes at the home of Seung-hee and Eun-soo seem to have been shot with a blue filter that makes their apartment seem sterile and completely lacking in warmth. It's like the director wants to tell us visually that their household isn't really a family or a home.

I like Jung-min and So-ra. I like that she's competent and that Jung-min finds that attractive rather than threatening. And I like the idea that they're both young enough that they can influence one another and grow into better human beings together and that they care about one another enough to listen to what the other has to say.

Like, Britney, I think the MIL is falling for an investment scam. I hope she doesn't forge Dr. Cha's signature to take out a loan and wreck Dr. Cha's credit history.

I wonder if the half-sisters will ever patch things back together. While I wish they could be united in their anger at their father (rather than angry at each other), it's still their loss in the end if they both lose their father in the process. Something about seeing that your father is a philanderer has a way of tainting how you view men in general, and I wouldn't want their future relationships to start with the assumption that men can't be faithful.

We still haven't seen how the backstory around Dr. Kim's birth will affect the rest of the characters. I'm not looking forward to that.

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I pretty much already said this on Reddit, but I think this ep showed the societal pressure that Jeong-suk is facing to stay with her husband for the sake of her kids. Even her loving, supportive mother told her to. Then the show at the same time undermined that message, culminating with the end where Jeong-suk finds out about the ultimate portrayal, and also that there is another kid involved (so "staying for the kids" becomes a less convincing argument). Jeong-suk wants to leave, but she's scared. I also think she has feelings for Roy but 1) she's not in a place to even think about a new romance right now and 2) she probably can't admit to herself that a guy like that would even want her, I'm sure In-ho shot her self-confidence as far as men are concerned. So-ra was the perfect person for her to talk to and get a more straight-forward, non-bullshit take. That scene at the end, with the rain symbolizing acceptance, was so lovely.

Also, I usually hate when drama finales use time jumps, but this show is actually one that I think needs to do that. Do a time jump and then have her dating Roy. I want her to experience real love with a man who adores her!

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Oh, and screw In-ho for essentially trapping Jeong-suk by revealing his relationship to her at work. I hate him so much.

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And he did that only because she was desired by another man. Not because he wanted to acknowledge her as his wife. He feels so entitled.

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Yeah, I've seen people complaining about the "love triangle" in this show, but it isn't a love triangle. He doesn't love her. It's all about protecting his reputation and lifestyle.

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LOL, I just realized I wrote portrayal instead of betrayal. Hopefully your brain inserted the right word like mine did.

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Yes, we all know the issues with the lack of editing and predictive text making up alternative words after you press send!

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The marriage was not built on love. Jung Sook was grateful that In Ho took responsibility. So, in a sense, Jung Sook never experienced true love or was truly loved. Actually, none of the three in the triangle loves. What Jung Sook feels is gratitude, Seung Hi resentment that something was taken from her, and In Ho only loves himself.
What puzzles me is how come Jung Sook never suspected anything all these years without getting any present or emotional closeness from her husband.

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Yes, Jung Sook has also a feeling of guilt towards In-ho who married her, because she was pregnant. I think this is why she asked the lawyer whether it is possible to have an amicable divorce. It seems that this is not possible in South Korea, there needs to be a guilty party.

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I love how I read comments here and get so many different perspectives. I am constantly going “oh yeah. I never thought of that”

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In-ho is like a child who grew bored of his toy and discared it, but when someone else goes to pick it up to play with it, he gets jealous and wants it back so no one else can have it. It’s like he viewed her as a puppy who used to give him attention but now she doesn’t and he can’t deal with it. She kept his life comfortable and now it’s not.

Hopefully now that she k ow there is another child, she will divorce cause she realised that cheating could Mabey be forgiven for the sake of her family, but not a secret love child

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Worse is that he maintained two families for so many years. It wasn’t a one time affair. That’s going to sting more. It was years of calculated betrayal and lies.

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Was that the case that he maintained two families for so many years? I thought he was not aware that he had a child from his mistress as she told him she will abort. All along I thought he knew he had another daughter only after Seung-Hi came back to Korea and they re-ignite their affair. After all Seung-Hi is from a wealthy family and she did not need his financial support.

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Thank you for the recap! I had a lot of fun with these episodes and I enjoyed revisiting them.
I saw a Youtube video about backlash against this show in Korea. Why? Because of how they treated the medical part of the drama. I did notice to myself that there was something weird about someone needing a liver transplant from taking herbal medicine. Even if the medicine contained liver-damaging herbs or contaminants, how could it cause that much damage in such a short time? Here's a woman whose husband cheated on her and seems never to have heard of a condom. Wouldn't it be more likely that she'd have contracted hepatitis from this schmuck and gotten liver disease that way? Of course the other causes of liver disease in Korea also could use some discussion.
Also, speaking of liver disease causes, how does the entire medical staff of the hospital go out drinking together at the same time? I understand the "in soju, veritas" trope in k-dramas is very important. It was also a thing in M.A.S.H., an old medical drama. Yet I still find it weird. At least some people didn't drink when they were treated to a feast in the village.

Finally, though, I think the reason this show has been so successful is the acting. Kim Byung-Chul is amazing. Those lines he has to deliver when he shows that he sometimes confuses his wife and his mistress? Like, when Dr. Cha points out that the bracelet is the first time he's ever given her a gift? Or when she asks to go to Jeju Island and he tells her they went there recently? Or even, the drunken version of In-ho who brags about his wife's singing. He's just fantastic and I feel like, as great as Uhm Jung-Hwa's perpetually astonished face is, his portrayal of his character as a comprehensively weak person makes the drama possible.

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I dunno, my grandma took a sketchy supplement that was sold on an infomercial and she actually died, not exactly from that but they think it contributed.

Despite the controversy, the show is doing great ratings-wise in Korea so hopefully that makes up for it.

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@vienibenmio, I'm so sorry that happened! I'm still angry about how my grandmother was treated in the hospital in her last illness. I didn't mean to hit a sore point with you.

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Thank you! It wasn't really a sore point, I just wanted to say that this sort of thing can actually happen.

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There is a lot of blind belief in herbal tonics and medicine, unfortunately often not supported by science. I know of more than one popular herbal medicine that promises many benefits, but reading up on it I discovered that there is no actual prove for these benefits, but plenty of prove that it is harmful in larger quantities.

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Actually, liver damage from herbal medicine is fairly well documented. There was a point that a significant proportion of liver cancer in Taiwan was from using a commonly used herb in Chinese medicine. Can't remember the name of the plant.

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There have been several documented herbal medicines causing liver damage. The biggest issue was the depiction of Crohn's Disease and alleging it is a life ending condition. The producers apologized after that episode. Others have commented that Cha's post-liver transplant condition with compromised immune function should have led to some complications like infections based on her stressful and tiring hospital residency schedule.

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I know it's true that herbal medicines can cause liver damage! Is that the main cause of liver disease though? I guess some toxins could cause scarring, but it sure seems dodgy as the main culprit.

As usual, I went to google and tried to find out what liver diseases actually affect Koreans (and because I'm American, actually affect people in the US.) I found a long article about the percentage of people in Korea who don't know they have Hep B. But yeah, it would have been cool for the writers to actually explain the liver disease somehow.

Also, a woman who was at the top of her class in medical school takes enough herbal medication to cause major liver scarring? It's not as crazy as her husband accidentally impregnating two people because he doesn't know how contraceptives work, but it's up there.

The Crohn's story was really interesting for me. I'm an Ashkenazi Jew and we have a very high incidence of Crohn's. I was surprised to learn that the version of Crohn's that affects people in Korea is considered to be unexplained and not considered a hereditary illness. As a non-scientist, this is fascinating to me. I wonder whether Crohn's Disease is going to wind up being like stomach ulcers, with a totally unexpected etiology.

But the idea that the in-laws would yell at the patient because he hid an illness seemed *less* unlikely than the idea that the hospital would ignore a suicidal patient whose surgery had failed.

I also think the post-transplant immune function issue was hand waved. We did see Dr. Cha exercising and eating health food during the Rocky-like sequence of studying for her residency exam. Thus her comment to her son that she was in excellent condition. Yeah, okay, I just think these writers were not expecting the show to be popular and therefore scrutinized for medical facts. I don't know why not, every Korean drama seems to flash medical information on the screen!

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There are lots of eyebrow raising inconsistencies including her being oblivious to nearly 2 decades of cheating and her use of herbal supplements when her education should have alerted her to some issues. The medical inconsistency is a constant in the k-drama world, so I'm choosing to ignore and just enjoy the ride.

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Also, how In Ho’s frozen shoulder rarely appears. If you have frozen shoulder, you have it 100% of the time 🙄

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They didn't really allege that it was life-ending, just that it is associated with high rates of depression and then So-ra mistakenly attributed the suicidality as a symptom of that and not a problem in itself. I don't really see why people took so much offense.

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Have STD/STIs ever been mentioned in kdramas? Haha
I would think that would be super taboo.

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It is a fact that herbal teas and supplements can definitively lead to liver injury and even liver failure

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As much as I'm enjoying this drama, it is a weird one from a cultural US perspective. Since the divorce rate in the US has been so high since the 1970's---most everyone has parents, siblings, children, friends, grandparents, etc that have experienced divorce. Blended families are so common with step parents, step children, ex husbands and ex wives, new spouses, girlfriends, single parents, joint custody, etc....So, how this show approaches divorce is so jarring to me. It just is not a big deal in the US (which is not to say divorce is not a big deal). It would not harm a career or make someone ashamed. A parent would be expected to take care of all children no matter the marital circumstances. The law would require child support even to the child from an adulterous relationship. There really is no distinction between a "legitimate" child and an "illegitimate" child. So, when the grandmother turned away from even knowing the "illegitimate" child, I was pretty horrified. After all, she is still her grandmother. I am also sympathetic to a single mother who wants to establish a support system (which usually includes family) for her child. All mothers would want a support system in place for her child even if from an adulterous relationship. Adultery, while awful, is extremely common. Being disowned for having a child out of wedlock feels so last century to me. Perhaps Korea is just going through some of the changes that the US went through, but decades ago. Seeing a woman break free from an awful marriage and finding happiness and success, would be pretty empowering.

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Yeah, it's fascinating to see this drama's perspective as an American. I also like to remember that Roy is also culturally American and that's probably why he's seeing this situation as "... so why don't you just leave him?"

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Like Roy, maybe the mistress and daughter have also been influenced by their time in the US too----particularly the daughter. That might explain the daughter's lack of shame and her desire to cut ties with her Korean family (both sides). She doesn't have to be ashamed in the US as generally no one would look down on her here based on being an "illegitimate" daughter from an adulterous relationship. She would find herself lots of company.

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Yes, in the US punishing the child for the sins of the parent is generally held to be backward and wrong, although it still happens more subtly. I don't want to make sweeping statements about Korean culture, but *dramas* at least present that as normal and expected, even when acknowledging that it's painful and unfair for the children.

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I didn't think about it this way at all but maybe there is a little of that at play. I thought Seung Hui's daughter is/was just bitter and I think that could've happened regardless of where she grew up because the situation is the same: dad has another family that gets the "perks" of living with him. Maybe it was exacerbated by them moving back to SK & the girls ending up in the same academy.

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Seung Hui’s daughter would I’m sure be bitter no matter where she grew up given she has basically been discarded by her mother and father’s family. But, in the US, the father legally could be compelled to give financial support. The father would also be judged harshly (socially) for not acknowledging her nor giving support. He would be considered a “deadbeat dad.” She would be considered an innocent child that had no fault in her parent’s bad behavior. I find the idea that it is bad to be an "illegitimate" child really head spinning.

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After the first 2 episodes, I wanted Doctor Cha to find out about the affair and get divorced in part so she could start whatever with Doctor Kim. Now I'm realizing something between them might never happen and that's fine. One doesn't need to be in a romantic relationship to be happy, satisfied, or complete with their lives. I like that Doctor Cha is coming to realization that she has to figure out what works for her.

It's so complicated to choose to get divorced especially given they've been together so long. I can understand why she would either decision, to stay or go.

I like So Ra even though she's abrasive. I think everyone benefits from having someone like her in their lives but then you also need the soft touches like Doctor Cha or Jong Min. She has no reason to be apologetic because she wasn't wrong about any of the things she said. It's just embarrassing that she was that way with her boyfriend's mom since I think it's ingrained that you're supposed to be a certain way in front of the in laws and she ruined that "gentle, accommadating" impression she's supposed to have. Personally, I'm all for her character and like Doctor Cha said "everything [So Ra] says is right".
Seriously, why should Doctor Cha & So Ra have to also do dishes and clean up after cooking for everyone when everyone else has functioning hands? Same with the peeling fruit.

It's nice that at one of her lowest moments, these two were able to connect with the joy ride in the rain. Sometimes you need carefree ridiculousness.

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I'm totally for her being in a romance with Roy and learning that relationships/marriage CAN be equal partnerships. I don't want the message being that you have to pick one or the other.

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Like you, I appreciate Dr. Cha slowing down the romantic angle with Dr. Kim because she recognizes that she needs to find herself and know what she wants before she starts anything with someone else. Somewhere in the decades that she was married, she had become someone that went along with what other people demanded of her. I'm sure it is scary but also exhilarating to finally have a chance to discover herself — and to be brave enough to embark on that journey.

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I have finally got to episode 10. I started it thinking it would be some makjangish silly drama and it's turning to be a really heartfelt one. And I love Jung Sook, she is such a real woman, and UJW is doing an amazing job.

I can totally understand her struggle, and the pain and shock she's living in. First finding our her husband had an affair, but now also learning he has a child, same age as her child. The way her life tumbles and falls, the way the pain of knowing a husband never really cared, not knowing what she can do know, I could feel it when she was just trying to grasp some air while seating in those stairs.

And above all, I love that she said she wants to find happiness and meaning to her life on her own. She is so, so brave!

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I loved that the taxi driver told JS that she "needs to see things till the end to be able to start anew" & the Sora car scene where she told it straight to JS's face that the scum is cheating on her.
Idk why but I was crying over both scenes. I think its both something JS really needed to hear.

As usual the scum disgusted me this week with his "clingy/jealous" behavior like ew no thank you. Just drop dead in a ditch somewhere please thanks. Guess I'll have to keep manifesting their divorce :')

I'm also stunned at how high the ratings are for this drama! That was something I was not expecting at all.

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loving this show. there are sweet bonding moments in it, sure, but the commitment to comedy here is amazing. the actor playing seo in-ho, kim byung-chul, is SO GOOD in this role. it's hard to make any venal character funny and nuanced, and he does it so well. i remember seeing him in shopaholic louis, and he killed the comedic elements there as well. it's also cool how they are developing the character of the kids, jung-min and i-rang, so you can see how they've developed on this journey, along with their mom. when you can see some of the wildness in i-rang and trace it back to her mom, or see that jung-min has a bit more of his dad's formality, but his mom's character wrt drawing a line between what is right and wrong, that's super cool. just really enjoying this, and i started watching this one not too far behind everyone else :)

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Am I imagining things, or was the family singing Happy Birthday in English in the restaurant...and then later on the video it was being sung in Korean??

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