Reborn Rich: Episodes 4-6
by mistyisles
Our reincarnated hero sets big plans into motion to 1) strike back at the chaebol family and 2) change the future for people he cares about. The question is, can he actually change the future, or is he only creating the future he’s already lived?
EPISODES 4-6 WEECAP
This week we start by diving a little deeper into the motivations of Chairman Jin’s three eldest children. First is Young-ki, whom we already know as Sung-joon’s father and Chairman Jin’s direct heir. He’s barely holding up under the immense pressure of handling every Soonyang crisis — and taking the blame for any failure. Most immediately, he’s tasked with winning the coveted acquisition of Hando Steel back from Se-hyun.
Then there’s JIN HWA-YOUNG (Kim Shin-rok), Chairman Jin’s only daughter. Hwa-young desperately tries to lobby for Chairman Jin to back the political ambitions of her husband, prosecutor CHOI CHANG-JE (Kim Do-hyun). Chairman Jin, however, has been burned by a few too many politicians, and wants none in his family. He goes so far as to not-so-subtly hint that Hwa-young should be content to “garnish” her brothers’ accomplishments instead of reaching for her own, making her more determined than ever to prove herself.
So when Chairman Jin’s biggest rival, Chairman JOO YOUNG-IL (Lee Byung-joon) of Daeyoung Group, unexpectedly throws his hat in the Hando Steel acquisition ring, it seems likely he got the extra money from Hwa-young. But no — that turns out to have been the doing of second Soonyang son JIN DONG-KI (Jo Han-chul), who’s tired of playing second fiddle to his older brother.
Dong-ki has a bit of extra leverage to work with, too: photo evidence of Se-hyun and Do-joon frequenting the same location. He sends a bug to their hotel room hidden in a flower bouquet, but as luck would have it, Min-young works part time at that same hotel and ends up delivering the flowers. She covertly tips Do-joon off about the bug, and he and Se-hyun stage an argument over Do-joon’s investment choices.
This, of course, gets reported straight to Chairman Jin. When questioned, Se-hyun answers truthfully that he helped Do-joon make an investment — but it wasn’t bidding for Hando Steel. Rather, Do-joon invested in a little American book-selling website that will later come to be known as Amazon. Ha!
Speaking of Min-young, she also works part-time at a coffee shop that Do-joon visits every day. She eventually works up the courage to ask him on a date, but circumstances intervene and he stands her up. When she confronts him, accusing him of looking down on her, he apologizes and counters that it’s him who doesn’t deserve her.
But back to the bidding war. With Hwa-young’s support, Young-ki pulls out all the stops and bids way above Soonyang’s means, winning the acquisition after all. But Do-joon is far from disappointed, because he got exactly what he wanted all along: to saddle Soonyang with a mountain of debt right before the IMF crisis hits. And the shot of Do-joon smirking over his drink as news anchors report bankruptcy after bankruptcy gives me serious chills.
As everyone scrambles to survive the economic crash, Do-joon and Se-hyun partner on a new investment company which they call Miracle Investments. They (and Chairman Jin) set their sights on another acquisition, this time of a business called Ahjin Motors. As with Hando Steel, Do-joon’s ultimate goal isn’t necessarily to win the acquisition himself (which sparks a real argument between him and Se-hyun). Unlike Hando Steel, however, Do-joon has a very personal stake in the fate of Ahjin Motors, because that’s where his (original) father works.
In the first timeline, when Ahjin Motors was acquired, all employees were laid off, and Hyun-woo’s mother collapsed from a fatal heart attack. So now Do-joon throws everything on the line to ensure Ahjin Motors employees get to keep their jobs.
Fortunately, the Hando Steel acquisition left Soonyang drained of financial resources. Add that to Chairman Jin’s dislike for politicians, and Se-hyun has enough leverage to strike a deal: he’ll fund Soonyang’s takeover of Ahjin Motors, and Chairman Jin will retain the existing employees. It works: Chairman Jin makes a self-titled “Big Deal” with the president that includes an employee buyout of Ahjin Motors, and Do-joon runs gleefully to his old home to deliver the deed to his mother’s restaurant, which he’s purchased on their behalf.
But she’s not there. He may have saved her from the heart attack, but he still couldn’t save her from dying… this time from suicide. She, like many innocent citizens, was taken in by the promise of big earnings from investing in a particular business, only to lose everything when that business was liquidated. A little more digging reveals that “business” was just another slush fund for Soonyang, and its liquidation was part of Chairman Jin’s “Big Deal” — A.K.A. a loophole to avoid restructuring Soonyang as per government mandates.
This is Do-joon’s first big failure in the new timeline, and it hits him like a train. Not only does it put him through the grief of losing his mother a second time, but it also calls into question his ability to effect any meaningful change. In fact, in some ways, the biggest changes he’s making this time around all seem to reinforce the future he’s already lived. Almost as though he’s building what killed him in the first place.
Perhaps the best example of this is how he helps Chairman Jin hold onto Soonyang Motors despite everyone else insisting it’s a lost cause. Soonyang is known for excelling at many things, but automobiles aren’t one of them, and a very embarrassing (and dangerous) accident involving one of their race cars doesn’t help. Chairman Jin is so enraged that he takes off alone instead of attending the subsidiary’s big unveiling ceremony.
Only Do-joon, who eagerly read Chairman Jin’s autobiography as a younger Hyun-woo, has any idea of where to find him. Chairman Jin wrote that when he felt overwhelmed, he’d revisit his roots by tinkering on the old delivery truck that launched his first business. That’s not exactly what he’s doing now, but it’s close enough for Do-joon to find him and initiate what feels like a moment of genuine connection.
Quoting the autobiography (which hasn’t been written yet), Do-joon points out that Soonyang Motors is like the “engine” of Soonyang as a whole, since it’s Chairman Jin’s true passion and where everything else started. And that inspires Chairman Jin — not just to attend the ceremony after all, but to use those exact words as his own.
The thing is, I think Hyun-woo genuinely respected Chairman Jin as a businessman and role model before he knew him personally. Even years into this new timeline, Do-joon still points to things like the Soonyang motto of “righteous business,” as if trying to nudge Chairman Jin toward doing the right thing. But now that idealistic image is shattering right before his eyes. As Chairman Jin’s words and actions attest, “righteous business” in his mind translates simply to “money.”
Needless to say, if Do-joon weren’t already motivated to burn Soonyang to the ground, he certainly is now. Especially once Chairman Jin looks him in the eye and tells him he doesn’t care who gets hurt by his money-making actions.
On top of everything else, Sung-joon reappears in Do-joon’s life, all grown up and back from studying abroad. Seeing him again gives Do-joon vivid flashbacks of being hit by a golf club and doused with tea, helping fuel his next step: winning the rights to oversee the development of Sangam-dong, the future center of media and culture. Which Chairman Jin is angling for Sung-joon to head up.
This battle depends more on politics than business, however. More specifically, it depends on the mayor’s approval. And wouldn’t you know it: the mayoral election is right around the corner. And who does Do-joon know that wants to run for mayor but can’t get Chairman Jin’s support to do so? That’s right — Chang-je.
The only problem is that Chang-je isn’t one to stand up to Chairman Jin. Instead, he prefers to keep his head down and crouch in Hwa-young’s shadow. But he also seems to genuinely care about making a positive change through politics, and with some convincing from Se-hyun and a push from Do-joon, he finally decides to step out of his comfort zone and run for mayor. And he wins.
Now Chairman Jin is falling over himself to convince Chang-je he’s always supported his dreams so Chang-je will give him the Sangam-dong project. But Chang-je has grown a spine, and he gives the project to Miracle Investments instead. So Chairman Jin falls back on the power of intimidation, summoning Chang-je to meet with him at home to ask if he’s being backed by Miracle.
But, to reiterate, Chang-je has grown a spine. They can talk about this outside, he says with newfound authority. And the power backing him up isn’t Miracle — it’s the people. He’s not budging, and it’s awesome.
Of course, Chairman Jin can tell that Miracle had a hand in this anyway. He levies the threat of financial ruin to intimidate Se-hyun into setting up a meeting with Miracle’s mysterious owner. We don’t see whether Se-hyun outs Do-joon or not, but regardless Do-joon shows up at Chairman Jin’s house and announces that he’s the true owner of Miracle Investments.
I did not expect this secret to come out so quickly, but I’m not complaining. Chairman Jin already had his suspicions about Do-joon, so it was really only a matter of time before he found out. I am curious how Do-joon plans to use it to his advantage, though, because I’m sure he has a plan of some kind.
And speaking of plans, I haven’t yet mentioned the other major player who was re-introduced this week: Sung-joon’s future wife, MO HYUN-MIN (Park Ji-hyun). We already saw her calling a lot of the shots in the first episode before Hyun-woo’s murder, and it looks like that’s been the case from the very beginning of her relationship with Sung-joon, right down to her orchestrating their first meeting on her own instead of waiting for parental introductions.
But now Do-joon has put himself on her radar, in more than one way at that. Not only did it not take her long to notice Do-joon and Se-hyun’s connection, but it also didn’t take her long to decide Do-joon might make a more intriguing target than Sung-joon. Which has interesting implications for the future to say the least.
Maybe Do-joon can’t do much to change overarching circumstances, but maybe he can change the people he interacts with, like Chang-je. And if that’s the case, maybe it will be enough for some of those people to make different choices this time around.
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1 Kurama
November 29, 2022 at 12:38 AM
It's sad he couldn't save his mother when he could save Chairman Jin from a plane crash... I wonder what is the logic behind his new life as Do-Joon. Two rich people survived but not his mother...
I was sure that he would use the IMF crisis for his own benefice. It had so much impact on Korea's economy.
Mo Hyun-Min looks more interesting than the official FL...
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miso
November 29, 2022 at 2:26 AM
Mo Hyun-min is definitely more interesting than the FL. Shin Hyun-bin's character really doesn't have much to do yet and having to act college age isn't helping - she was very awkward in the library scene.
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Kurama
November 29, 2022 at 2:37 AM
I find that Shin Hyun-bin lacks charisma on screen.
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miso
November 29, 2022 at 3:29 AM
I think so too. Maybe she'll surprise us later in the show 🤷♀️.
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candilane
November 29, 2022 at 4:33 AM
I like her and thinks she is a good foil.. she did warn him about the bug in the flowers too.
Kurama
November 29, 2022 at 4:40 AM
@candiland Oh, she's a good person and has good sense of justice, no doubt. But as character, she's kinda dull compared to Hyun-Min.
soulsearch12
November 30, 2022 at 8:02 PM
I'm in the odd camp, where I don't mind if she doesn't show charisma. IA, she's not charismatic, and there's a reason why despite her elegant and sophisticated looks/vibe, she only rose to FL status much later. She's more of a character actress who disappears in her roles. I think that's a plus here, oddly, b/c she doesn't distract nor detract from the show.
Her role is written just as what she's intended here to do. She's here to ensure he doesn't stray from his path, from the few scenes together. I got a strong sense of conviction and tenacity from her, she's not a wallflower, and I feel she'll be an great ally to him to enact his revenge.
Britney
November 29, 2022 at 9:50 AM
Wasn't she supposed to be awkward?
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pohonphee
November 29, 2022 at 2:49 AM
I think the chairman wasn't supposed to die by plane crash in the original time line. It hasn't mentioned how and when the chairman will die. I am curious about that.
And how is the original Do-jun's life while he is now living as the 3rd gen of chaebol? This is so mind boggling.
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Kurama
November 29, 2022 at 2:55 AM
It's possible but why he acted like this if he didn't think the Chairman will die in the plane? He knew the future, so he should know why he never met him....
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pohonphee
November 29, 2022 at 3:03 AM
this is the plot hole. I think he thought his presence would affect the chairman's life but the proof showed him it didn't (he still figures out the new game's set of rules like us the viewers).
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Olive
November 30, 2022 at 12:51 AM
It's not plot hole. DJ knew about plane crash from original timeline. When he got to know, chairman is in it, he wanted to warn.
pohonphee
November 30, 2022 at 4:18 AM
He did knew about the plan crash, he knew about the chairman has already dead in his original time line. But the drama never mention how the chairman would die or mention if DJ knew how the chairman would die. I think DJ fears his new presence will make the chairman dies via plane crash so he thought he should stop it.
candilane
November 29, 2022 at 4:34 AM
Naw remember Jin Do Joon said that the Chairman never mentioned the crash in the book. JDJ was always suppose to save him
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candilane
November 29, 2022 at 4:32 AM
Yes, but it was messed up with the IMF crisis, he could have warned his family (dontcha think)...
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Kurama
November 29, 2022 at 4:41 AM
But his goal is to take over so warning them was not a good thing for him.
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gadis
November 29, 2022 at 8:21 AM
Given that he was under constant surveillance as a chaebol grandson, it would be suspicious if he contacted his birth family. Not to mention, would they believe in his warning about IMF crisis? I mean, in the economical climate right before it happened, it seemed downright impossible so...
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2 Britney
November 29, 2022 at 1:57 AM
"The question is, can he actually change the future, or is he only creating the future he’s already lived?"
I'm thinking we're watching a "how we got here" type of story and everything that's happening has already happened/will happen. Unless it was explicitly mentioned and I don't remember, it was never mentioned that Chairman Jin narrowly avoided an ill fated flight, only that he didn't die that day. To me, this means this could've have always been the case and it wasn't due to Do Jun's influence.
Just like his mom was always meant to die and give his original self some resentment towards his father and motivate him to work at Soonyang and make a lot of money (despite whatever mistreatment and degradation he received). Then again, who know if he's still resentful towards to his father since the circumstances changed.
I'm wondering how Do Jun & Hyeon Woo are connected because there *HAS* to be some kind of reason why Hyeon Woo came back as him. Maybe the same person is responsible for what happened to both of them.
I have no clue if something is going to develop between Do Jun & Min Young. At first I thought they might have some kind of relationship and whatever happened to him led to her having a strong desire to bring the company or the family members down. Considering they're also money hungry and shady, it's hard for me to tell how much is her being a righteous prosecutor trying to fight corruption and make guilty, entitled people pay for their crimes and how much is due to personal reasons. I feel like the show wants us to believe Do Jun will join forces with Hyun Min, whether it's for mutual benefit or he's playing to use her somehow but I don't think it will play out like that. I think Hyun Min will see him as an equal or someone worthy of her but he won't be interested which will just intrigue her more. I could be totally wrong haha
I'm thinking Do Jin ended up being too much competition and that's why whatever happened to him happened. He's crazy insightful on multiple levels and members of the family would feel threatened by him, whether he were a part of the family business or outside of it (like with Miracle)
I love the way real and fictional elements are used. It really and truly makes me smile when future events are mentioned such as Korean entertainment is going to be huge, music albums being able to fit in your hand like an apple, or about a little online bookstore. I love how he uses his future knowledge to stay financially secure (it's once again things I fantasize about haha) or to help his new family.
I wonder what other future things will be mentioned. I'm cheesy so I wonder if someone is going to be a fan of a drama about a woman who pretends to be a guy to attend an elite school in the joseon era or a special forces soldier & a doctor (at least I think that's what it's about, I've never watched it).
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miso
November 29, 2022 at 2:28 AM
I've been wondering about the connection between Do-jun and Hyun-woo too. There has to be a reason why he has no memory of Do-jun's face - maybe the 'accident' nobody wants to discuss involved both of them (along with Seung-jun)?.
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gadis
November 29, 2022 at 8:25 AM
Exactly. It seemed like all the Jin family tried to take the secret of Do-joon-related tragedy to their graves, given the way they (not) reacted to Do-joon's mother's outburst back in eps 1.
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Kafiyah Bello
November 29, 2022 at 5:54 AM
I totally agree, I think this is a "how we got here too." I think your write up is spot on, but we shall see.
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kdramacurious
November 29, 2022 at 7:44 AM
Agree as well with the idea that what we're seeing is the "how we got here" story. So far, the only "interventions" that Do-jun has successfully pulled off have been those that preserve the "original" timeline as we know it.
At one point, I wondered if things had gotten too hot for Do-jun, and he decided to fake his death in an "accident" so he can go underground and continue to manipulate events from behind the scenes without suspicion falling on him. But that seems like a farfetched idea now.
Also found myself wondering if Do-jun had been "killed" by 1-0, since 1-0 is invested in seeing Sung-joon marry Hyun-min. Also, we know that Sung-joon had been upset at his father about an "accident" in Episode 1— clearly, it was something bad enough that Sung-joon had been willing to renounce his inheritance over it.
Lol at the company name "Gnaynoos" being the literal reverse spelling of "Soonyang". I'm surprised Do-jun did not spot that when the slide was flashed onscreen. In any case, the fact that they had a slush fund like that set up with a foreign company makes me think the Project Micro slush fund in Turkey was also authorized by someone in the family — perhaps 1-0.
Still so many unanswered questions. Looking forward to the next episodes.
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gadis
November 29, 2022 at 8:29 AM
It would be chilling if Do-joon's action now would inadvertently help the Project Micro slush fund to accumulate the crazy amount of $600 million. Like the recapper, I have a bad feeling that Do-joon himself would create the circumstances that eventually kill him in the future.
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candilane
November 29, 2022 at 9:37 AM
But my question is did he change things he was suppose too? Because in the original scenes ( 1st episode) the Aunt and Uncle were arguing about how she should have supported him being a politician but she didnt but in this go round- she fought hard for husband to be a politician.. Remember in episode 1 he was never the former Mayor of Seoul,etc ( at least from what we could tell) so some things did change but I think these were changes that meant to occur.
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kdramacurious
November 30, 2022 at 12:36 AM
Oh, interesting. I went back to watch that elevator scene between the aunt and the uncle, because yes, that seems significant.
Their dialogue is open to multiple interpretations, it seems — one of them being that he is a politician after all?
Jin Hwa-Young: You said Young Ki would be behind bars. Never do you keep your promises. Darn politicians.
Choi Chang-Je: Politics should be conducted on a broad perspective. The whole nation shouldn't have to suffer from a family feud. "Soonyang runs the South Korean economy." Your family takes pride in that.
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candilane
November 30, 2022 at 1:43 AM
True.. I was listening and he said to his wife
Cho Chang Je: You should have supported me back then instead of your own family. If you had done that you could have claimed the throne
Jin Hwa Young: No way.. etc
So I had assumed he didnt but we will see since this is a how did we get there.. because from what I can tell she has supported him thus far.. 100% when no one in her family did. That is how I can to that interpretation.. events have changed though, instead of his HW mom having a heart attack she committed ****** so I do think events are changing but we shall see
3 miso
November 29, 2022 at 2:24 AM
Thanks for the recap @mistyisles. Quite a task managing to cover all the themes in 3 long episodes!
I really like the way the story ties in real-events with the passage of time - from Seo Taiji to Titanic to the IMF Crisis. Best way to have fun with a story set in the past. Hyung-joon accidentally guessing stuff that will definitely come to pass, but not believing his own vision, is hilarious.
I was wondering why ML didn't take a more simple/cruder approach to helping his family - such as sending them a gift/ windfall through someone else? Given that he's doing a lot of things that never happened with OG Do-jun (one would assume!), he doesn't seem particularly worried about how it will affect future events.
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Kafiyah Bello
November 29, 2022 at 5:52 AM
I think he wants to make sure that his chaebol family doesn't even have a wiff of a suggestion that he knows his family. They will use it against him.
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miso
November 29, 2022 at 6:10 AM
That's fair. He's probably seen it happen often.
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kdramacurious
November 30, 2022 at 12:37 AM
YES, just wanted to echo the appreciation for @mistyisles' weecaps. It takes real skill to recap three episodes so efficiently and eloquently.
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mistyisles
November 30, 2022 at 12:24 PM
❤️ Thank you both!
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4 Yn00na
November 29, 2022 at 3:20 AM
I feel the storyline is not very convincing. For someone who is supposedly very smart, Do-Joon seems to go through very convoluting way to safe his mum. His original family issue is surely their economic hardship. DJ has the money and the means to help. Buy his mum store building earlier, get his dad employment somewhere, give great health insurance do his mum can get her health in check,... So many options... All would be much simpler than it will be much simpler than trying to manipulate a whole bunch of Chaebol to do his bidding. It just seems like a way to force a 'revenge' type of motivation to our hero.
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candilane
November 29, 2022 at 4:37 AM
I honestly dont think he is HW and that he was reborn poor or manufacturing memories? Rewatch episode 1.. all of his persona ( the smirks, the facial expressions, etc) is all of Jin Do Joon.. we haven't seen HW to be sure but I dont think he is HW plus we dont see that many memories with HW and they are all of him being older..IDK how this will play out but I am pretty sure that HW in the future is going to be JDJ somehow
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missjb
November 29, 2022 at 5:05 AM
I think his main goal is still to take over the company. he start to have money around 20 years thanks to his grandpa. With only 24 billion, his main goal will be invest his money to make the money bigger, and get the result when imf crisis happened. he is too focus on his main goal he is underestimated the hardship his parent went through, It's showed when he didn't think her mother would commited suicide. I think his mind start to think his og family fall apart when IMF crisis happened. It end up backfire him, though
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john
November 29, 2022 at 6:25 AM
Doing takeovers , funding startups, buying land, yet he does too little too late to help his family ? Why wouldn’t he have tried to help sooner ?
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5 candilane
November 29, 2022 at 4:30 AM
" A villain is just a hero on the other side" GRRM
Honestly, I can't determine if Jin Do Joon is the villian or not. I know it sounds crazy but a small part of me understands why Grandpa is a little weird around him, I mean he has had one goal since he was like 8 years old and its been to take over Soon Young. He has been scary since he was a kid..lol.. ( still love him though). He is literally a younger version of his grandfather in some way, even better actually. Grandpa is without a genius, he doesnt have insight into the future and he really is out here making power moves for his family to be at the top BUT he is biased against his children which is his biggest weakness. Also, Grandpa made a point ( although I dont agree). He told Jin Do Joon that you cant give servants too much because they will start to think they are owners and fast forward and his SIL has won Mayor and the first thing he does is FLEX on Grandpa. Grandpa can no longer control him. I thought that was interesting because I think he purposefully kept the SIL down to avoid him getting too much power.
Jin do Joon... OMG.. I think he can change the future but not pre-destined events? Hmm in the 1st episode the Aunt was arguing with the Uncle about how she didnt support his political career so that has changed right. Because in this future she did support and he is now the Mayor of Seoul. So that changed no? I think HW mom it was her time no matter what.. However, I have a weird theory that Jin Do Joon is mistaken and that he isn't HW but JDJ (even in the future but he doesnt know it yet). ITs weird how he has no memories of 4-2 except that he disappeared..lol.. I want JDJ to have a bigger loveline ( controversial I know) but he needs something to occupy him besides trying to take over Soonyoung and attend law school ( how is he doing both btw). I am excited though to see how it all goes down.
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6 Kafiyah Bello
November 29, 2022 at 5:49 AM
Lee Sing Min is beautifully serving strong old man energy. He is great in this. As for DJ saving his mother, I knew she would still die. I do like that he found some understanding of his father though.
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miso
November 29, 2022 at 6:12 AM
Lee Sung-min's performance is really so nuanced - from the hunch to the walk to the satoori and old man cadence!
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miss h
November 29, 2022 at 7:01 AM
He's so good. He's going to win some awards for this performance.
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Britney
November 29, 2022 at 12:49 PM
What's satoori mean?
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Kafiyah Bello
November 29, 2022 at 2:51 PM
Satoori means accent.
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miso
November 29, 2022 at 3:38 PM
'Satoori' refers to regional dialects in Korean. This would include differences in words, grammar, pronunciation.
If you listen closely, you'll see that the rest of the Jin family speaks 'standard' Seoul speech, which is different from how Chairman Jin talks. The verb endings and common words used are also different.
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ceca
December 4, 2022 at 5:12 PM
Can you please locate his accent? What kind of accent he uses?
7 miss h
November 29, 2022 at 5:49 AM
I like Shin Hyun-bin, but the drama really doesn't need her character. Her feelings for Do-joon aren't very believable. Hyun-min could have been the FL. She seems interesting.
Do-joon isn't very interesting to me either. I hope he becomes more interesting later when he isn't going around acting all carefree. That doesn't really suit SJK's acting. Chairman Jin and the rest of the family make the show for me. This week, Chang-je and Hwa-young had my attention.
There were better ways for Do-joon to help his former family.
I wish we saw more of Do-joon with his mom, dad and brother in this life, especially if something is going to happen to Do-joon. Does he feel anything for them? They are nice people.
The reveal in Episode 6 fell flat to me because Do-joon basically revealed he was the majority shareholder in Episode 5 when he had Se-hyun repeat Chairman Jin's words to Do-joon that righteous management equals profit. I don't know how Chairman Jin didn't pick up on that.
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miso
November 29, 2022 at 6:14 AM
Seriously, from the way Chairman Jin reacted to Se-hyun quoting that phrase, I assumed he did pick up on it, only for him to appear quite shocked by the actual reveal.
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candilane
November 29, 2022 at 8:38 AM
I took it as confirmation of his worse fears.. his grandson is trying to destroy his company.. HIS GRANDSON.. I mean it has to hurt almost much as his son siding with Daeyoung.
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8 Midnight
November 29, 2022 at 6:34 AM
I'm not watching this show yet, just skimming the comments to decide if I should put it on my list, and I noticed that beanies seem to be upset that the ml hasn't saved his mother although he knows the future.
I wanted to say that this seems to be a theme in nearly all time-slip dramas that I have watched. That however much you try to manipulate the past, most major events will not change.
I have always found this very interesting. It is like inasmuch as people yearn for time travel and being able to go back and change the past, when it comes to actually writing it down, they are wary of going all out on it.
Maybe the writers start with selecting what can be changed and what can't, and they push themselves into a corner and the same conclusion every time: that nothing major can be wholly changed because then the rules of the world might collapse.
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miso
November 29, 2022 at 7:38 AM
Can't speak for others but I'm not particularly upset he couldn't save his mother. I am slightly baffled by the approach he took in trying to help his family. Just felt like he was trying to stop major events from happening rather than focusing on smaller, more immediate ways to help. But, as another beanie pointed out, it could have been with the intent to protect them.
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Richard Johnson
November 29, 2022 at 5:31 PM
Plenty of change in Again My Life, Kairos, Times, Queen In Hyun's Man, and Nine. Alice and Train address the rules.
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9 john
November 29, 2022 at 6:51 AM
Mistyisles, thanks for the recap.
I like how the founders of two industry giants, Daeyoung and Soonyang throw barbs at one another.
It kills Soonyang’s chairman that his sons are inept. Now he knows Do-Joon is his adversary.
The interaction of Do-Joon and Min-young to this point is not very compelling . Cautiously looking ahead for next week.
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10 korfan
November 29, 2022 at 7:30 AM
I hope Do-joon has a plan for dealing with Hyun-min because he certainly got her attention ..... and it may just backfire on him.
I'm finding it quite interesting that in this new life as Do-joon, he signs business papers with the initials H.W., just as he used to sign when he was Hyun-woo.
He was able to prevent the Chairman's death but not his mother's. So now I'm wondering if Do-joon is speculating whether he'll be able to prevent his own demise.
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kdramacurious
November 29, 2022 at 8:16 AM
I wonder if the fact that Do-jun's and Hyun-woo's signatures are the same will become a pivotal plot point down the road.
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11 gadis
November 29, 2022 at 8:06 AM
I’ve been thinking about the real end goal for this unexpected second chance for our hero, because reincarnation or time-slip story always have one. And yet, things seemed awfully murky on that front even after years of this complete redo (which, frankly, was worrying for our hero’s continual happiness). To sum it up, there are 3 possible reasons for this rare opportunity to happen.
1) A venue for Do-joon to find out the truth behind his unjust death. The caveat, I think, is that it was counterproductive to have him reborn as another person, with completely different circumstances. His former enemy wouldn’t have the same reason to strike him now, and he could very well has his own set of different enemy this time. It would be nigh impossible for him to crack that mystery, unless the answer is simply pointed at Soonyang as a whole. (Which was reasonable given the generally unfair and borderline immoral principles Grandpa taught to his family.) Or, the death he has to uncover was that of the original Jin Do-joon instead.
2) A second chance for Do-joon to give his family a better life. At first, this seemed to be Do-joon’s personal goal from the beginning. The very reason he chose to play seemingly unreasonable long game with all his investment, which cumulated in his extreme wealth at such young age that he could then used to ensure job and life security for his birth parents and sibling. Same with the way he “paid back” his new family’s kindness by nudging their career towards brighter path.
And yet, if this was truly the end goal of this journey, Fate seemed unreasonably cruel to arrange Do-joon’s reborn circumstances so that he couldn’t even publicly got in touch with his birth family. What a cold and lonely second chance this was, that Do-joon was the only one who felt the loss of this connection. Not to mention that he apparently could only change the path directly under his influence, which means a lot of future tragedies would probably still happen unless he has complete knowledge of all the factors at play to run interference for them. Which was not promising at all.
3) A revenge opportunity for Do-joon or Fate borrowing Do-joon’s hands to teach Soonyang a lesson for their impudence. By the end of eps 6, I think this is the only sensible reason left (unless my imagination conjured up something else later on). This seemed to be the most straightforward path, especially with the combination of Do-joon’s future knowledge and business savvy.
I was tickled at the way Do-joon methodically used Grandpa’s own words and teachings (from his future autobiography or otherwise) against him. Do-joon seemed to get a thrill from this action even if no one understood the gravity of his words choice. Using it to stoke Grandpa’s arrogance and recklessness, justify his “wayward” action and decision, fake-innocently point out Soonyang hypocrisy right to Grandpa’s face. At first glance, it felt like a simple petty act,...
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gadis
November 29, 2022 at 8:08 AM
..., until I remembered the way Do-joon died in the hand of someone throwing his own words back at his face. Then suddenly his action became sweetly vicious.
I’m just worried that revenge as the end goal would mean bitter end for our hero. I’ve never seen a revenge piece ended well for any of the people involved, and sadly I’ve became very invested in Do-joon’s eventual happiness.
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12 kdramacurious
November 29, 2022 at 8:14 AM
Just saw this note on the Reborn Rich page on AsianWiki:
Ep. 7, which was originally scheduled to air Friday, December 2nd, 2022, will instead air Saturday, December 3rd, 2022. A rerun of ep.6 will air in its place on Friday, December 2, 2022.
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jackVO111
December 2, 2022 at 4:32 PM
Major Bummer! (But nice to know)
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13 Doppelganger
November 29, 2022 at 9:07 AM
This show should be renamed The Chairman instead, because Lee Sungmin's character and scenes are enthralling to watch, much more so than the reincarnation storyline.
I previously wrote that one sign of good acting is effortlessness. Another sign is the ability to breath life into the character, and boy is LSM doing it here. On paper, the grandfather is a larger-than-life figure, veering on cartoonish, but LSM's acting humanizes the grandfather and makes him so multi-dimensional. The grandfather is a ruthless businessman who deals in a zero-sum world view; but he is also a father who feels (to a degree) deep guilt and sorrow over making his sons fight each other for succession; and he is also a misunderstood creative genius, who is frustrated that no one "gets him".
Episode 4 was beautiful to watch because you saw the Chairman's heartbreak when his racing car exploded in flames, his desperation at not having "5 of him" in his family, his despondency at no one understanding the importance of Sunyang motor division, and then his resilience at picking himself back up and forging ahead. I find the Chairman to be a very lonely, almost sad figure. No one understands his vision and he has no intellectual equals around him.
Now the follow may be blasphemy to some, but SJK's acting is not wowing me yet. He's not doing badly, but he's not giving the WOW factor. I feel like he shows two expressions so far (1) smirk and (2) blank face. I also think they put way too much filter and foundation on his face, because there's this blur effect that makes it hard for me to see any nuances in facial expression. I don't get what Dojun's motive is right now. Is it to find out who murdered him? Take over Sunyang? Save his old family?
My far-fetched drama dream would be to see the Chairman go up against Succession's Logan Roy. The screen would explode from the intensity.
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Midnight
November 29, 2022 at 9:56 AM
LSM is a genius that way. His character in Miss Korea is a terrific testament to that.
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miss h
November 29, 2022 at 10:45 AM
I agree with you about SJK, but for a ML, his role isn't very meaty right now. DJ just bee bops around, weirdly happy go lucky, while he plots against Soonyang. I'm hoping SJK can show a little more intensity as DJ goes head-to-head with Chairman Jin. It would help if we get a time jump, but I don't know if that's in the cards. I kind of wish they had just cast a younger actor for the role.
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Doppelganger
November 29, 2022 at 6:41 PM
DJ just bee bops around
Lol at your usage of bee bops. It's very accurate.
I think they should've stuck with the kid actor from ep2 for a few more episodes until Dojun ages up.
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soulsearch12
November 30, 2022 at 9:15 PM
I think he's well cast, he excels in revenge shows (Innocent Man/Vincenzo/to a lesser extent DOTS). So this is in his wheelhouse; maybe a time for a different genre? But it's a genre that has a lot of room to play with. IA with @songxrising, they could've made this 20 - 24 episode with the first 4 episodes in the 1987-1990 era where he was still a teen and showing his prowess. Then transition into when he was college-aged by Ep 5, and a bit more insight into his wins/losses & a bit more insight into his character too. The 2nd FL is more cunning/threat than he is rn, I would watch out for her. The actress didn't stand out to me, but here she's met a role that's cool and lets her distinct more eye-catching beauty a spotlight.
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Guest
November 29, 2022 at 5:18 PM
The thing about Do Joon is he doesn’t have any special traits aside from knowing the future. Even in the novel, there is nothing interesting about his character unlike other characters around him. If the writer stick to the original source, I don’t think SJK has a lot acting to do in this role despite being the lead.
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Lonestar Girl
November 30, 2022 at 5:52 PM
I agree 💯 with your assessment of LSM. The most exciting scenes are the ones with him in it.
As far as Chairman Jin, while he’s disappointed with his children, I think the oldest grandson, by virtue of being the first, and DJ are his pride and joy. But he knows DJ is his only intellectual match. You can see the twinkle in the Chairman’s eyes when they’re together and he was so proud of DJ regarding the land deal. I also think he would give DJ Soonyang if DJ said he wanted it. Grandpa has asked him if he’s interested in the business on more than one occasion.
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soulsearch12
November 30, 2022 at 7:53 PM
LSM blew up later in his career with Misaeng. He has a more exciting and better-written role. But tbh, SJK's role here is a stand-in for the audience. The chairman represents capitalism in our society, and Do-jun represents the socialist aspects. I mean,
JTBC is a channel that skirts between that line. As in, socially
liberally, but politically conservative.
From what I read, the webtoon's ML is much more intelligent/better written. SJK brings levity and strength to his role; he's a good and charismatic actor. However, not on him, but the character made more of a big impression on me when he was a kid. When he answered the shrimp/whale analogy, it was an intelligent way to show his smarts in a short scene. It was brilliant, but since then, I'm kinda itching to see Do-jun roll up more of his sleeve without investing in companies he'll know will hit big.
East vs. West fight! That would be an interesting plot point in Succession.
Also, I thought my opinion of Do-jun being non-descript would be unpopular, but it's not. But yes, to what you said, what drives him beyond revenge? We know he wants to avenge what they did to his parents and who shot him. But this show compares him and the chairman, but it doesn't feel justified.
In terms of the role, usually, ML's that is, the audience's vessel tends to be bland. As I said, I assume he took on this role/show due to working alongside LSM and reuniting with his former writer, who blew him up. Also, the role seems tailor-made to SJK. An intelligent and smooth guy, and another revenge-based tale for him. I would like to see him in a slice of life next b/c he's done more than revenge dramas to last him until his 30s.
I need to see him get more depth outside of revenge, like can I see a law-based student trying to keep up with his studies and
dating life? It would be fun to see more shades/colors in his role and show that while he's intelligent and conniving, he's just a tiny fish in the big pool.
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missjb
December 1, 2022 at 5:06 AM
What I get from the visual storytelling, LSM's character is from conglomerate family who the first founder of Sunyang, so he doesn't know about the commoner's point of view.
Meanwhile, SJK's character despite being in a rich family, his souls is still in that poor nieighborhood who can't afford to pay his tuition . How when her mother died, his first mind is goes towards that event. The show keep compare about his condition when as Hyun Woo and when he is as DoJoon to compare the contrast.
He feels for the poor not because he is morally upright, but because he is happened to be in that position, as a commoner. He is not avenging his granpa not just because DOjoon mad at grandpa action that led to his mother's death, eventhough tht's one of the reason, but his grandpa point of view about a commoner like his mom and him in the past is major reason to his action. I think from episode 1 to 6, Doo joon is having more depth than Vincenzo..
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14 Toodlepip
November 29, 2022 at 2:21 PM
The mood certainly took a nose dive in episode 6. DJs ability to change his perceived future seems to have morphed into setting up his previous life all over again in a different flavour.
The pace seems to have slowed down in these episodes also.
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15 Bunny Sonaki
November 29, 2022 at 8:28 PM
I find Do-joon revealing his plans that early to Yang-cheol interesting as it will only get the battle more intense. It is a game of wits between a formidable foe and a smart man who has an edge of knowing the future and that is what I came for. I am really in for more challenging face-offs between those two.
As for the twist regarding Hyeon-min shifting her eyes on Do-joon, I find that compelling as on one note it will cause Do-joon and Seong-joon to be rivals in both love and business which can't get more intense. Not to mention, Hyeon-min is smart enough to turn the tables and bring changes to the fate of both men and Sooyang. I find her character more charismatic and has more potential with Do-joon than Min-young whose role we have yet to see.
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16 panshel
November 29, 2022 at 11:17 PM
How does Do-joon's family have no idea what he's doing? He sent Driver Ha away, but no one knew that he opened a company, except Hyun-min who was smart enough to put two and two together. When the prosecutors raided his office, did they not see his "COO Do jun Jin" name plate?
Lee Sung-min is amazing, but I was worried that the drama would get repetitive with an acquisition of the week from Hando Steel to Ahjin Motors, so I like that the secret's out to watch Do-joon one-up Chairman Jin in the open.
Since Do-joon couldn't prevent his mom's death but was able to save Chairman Jin from the plane crash, I think that he can only change the Soonyang family's fate. As soon as Chang-je became mayor, Chairman Jin ought to have known that Soonyang couldn't win the project or else the public would riot that he gave his family favors. I finally understood why Chairman Jin said his four sons failed to get into Seoul National University because he treats Hang-jae as a son.
I'm glad Do-joon's new family with his dad, mom, and older brother get along well. Hyung-joon is hilarious every time he predicts the future like Parasite, Apple, and Melon. Min-young has no importance to the story. She's just there.
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jackVO111
December 2, 2022 at 4:38 PM
As far as Min-Young, I feel her time will come as far as importance to the major plotlines. She's often cast in roles with a slow-burn trajectory because she's got the acting chops to sustain that, unlike some others. I'll freely admit that I'm a huge fan of SHB, and so strongly biased. And I feel strongly that her eyes should have to be registered with the UN as weapons of mass destruction.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
December 2, 2022 at 9:11 PM
‘ And I feel strongly that her eyes should have to be registered with the UN as weapons of mass destruction.’ 👈 Love this 🤣 I am not even watching this drama but tempted to find a scene just to see them in action.
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jackVO111
December 3, 2022 at 4:44 PM
It's hard to imagine that you'll be disappointed. But that's just me...🤩
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