I felt a lot of things watching these two episodes, the stellar performances given was 😘😉🥺

That last scene at episode 8 broke me to pieces. In my country Nigeria, hitting a child as a form of discipline is not uncommon and it's seen as a correct way to bring up a child. I have been hit by my parents but not in an abusive way but I still shudder to think of what will happen if I'm in Yeong-jo's shoes in my father's house. He'll do worse than In-gwon, I've seen such cases happen around me especially with teenage pregnancies. But notwithstanding, Parents love their children more than their lives, so when such a disappointing scenario happens, it feels as if a stone castle collapsed.

Our words are like a two-edged sword that can pierce through the strongest heart. I know Hyeon is and was going through a lot and those words, though harsh, were what his naive mind felt over his dad. They are both naive and still don't realize everyday has its problems but when In-gwon cried, I cried too. He was the only one he had, he is not afraid of his son becoming a father too early but that dreaded rejection from everyone including his precious son was the last straw for him.

I'm glad they both apologized but I can't help but think of what the future has for them.

I think part of the turnoff of the series is the constant cursing emotional outbursts from the main characters. The fathers lack rational judgment, common sense and boundaries (no right to assault another's child). The market folk are too nosy and prying into everyone else's lives. It is like everyone is angry all the time. After a while it is an uncomfortable watch because in real life would you want to associate with these people?

Even if there is a hint of redemption in a character, there is still a sour aftertaste from their past actions. All the story arcs are sad which adds a heap of pain to the watch them suffer through their issues. After 8 episodes, there is an dour imbalance toward the harsh elements of life instead of moments of appreciation or success.

There needs to be some joy to break up the downer stories. When Seon-ah congratulated Yeong-ju for having a baby, it took a stranger to comfort her in her decision. No one else did. I thought the two could have started a bond at that moment, but Seon-ah walked away. Instead, Yeong-ju had to walk the minefield of angry dads, and judgmental teachers and neighbors.

I get that the writer/director want to show the hardships of working class people. But the culture created so far does not show a path of a happy ending for anyone.

Sometimes, even though we completely love someone and understand why they towed a particular course if action, we still withhold forgiveness(Ho-shik and Young-joo). His love for his little girl is so so strong, and it hasn't changed. A happy ending for him and his daughter would be nice.

After parents might have fought so hard to be the best to their kids, it really hurts when they(the parents) are told they haven't been doing it right all this time, from the perspective of the kid. It's beyond comprehension, and very hard to wrap the head around, and they start to wonder where and what they had done wrong(In-kwon and Hyun). Good thing both father-child relationships might be heading towards reconciliation because it could easily breed resentment.

This episodes are heavy-handed and too close to home. And a good thing is that it acknowledges and addresses the flaws and misgivings from both eyes of the parents and child.

I'm on the dads' side. Not condoning child abuse because In-kwon's pity party had me rage, "Embarrassment? You beat your son!" or dragging Young-joo to the hospital since even if he did, the hospital can't force her to get an abortion, but what else did the teenagers think would happen? That their dads would just accept it? This is a normal reaction to your kid ruining his/her life. If Young-joo had known that her dad would approve of the abortion, then she could have just gotten parental consent.

What's done is done, but they can't expect their dads to help them. Get them a place, what? Why do they even need a place? Hyun can move in with Young-joo and her dad, or she can move in with him and his dad. When she compared herself to baggage, that was different since her dad was married and out of high school, and when she asked why he couldn't understand when her teachers and friends can, of course because it's not their lives.

Young-joo's smart, so she still could go to Seoul National University, but the two of them are so naive. She thinks that she can pop out a baby during winter break, and he thinks that he can be rich from working in a Chinese restaurant and tangerine farm. Kids are expensive. How much is the child endowment? Who is going to watch their baby when she's at school and he's at work? When is he going to have time to see their baby when he's working 10 hours a day, 300 days a year?

Young-joo hates Jeju, but they're lucky that they live in a small town or else how could she stay in a motel for free or spend the night at halmeoni's? Above all, they are the luckiest that Eun-hee is rich because I can see her paying for everything -- Hyun's academy fee, their college tuition, an apartment, day care -- which would just be unfair.

That was the reason why Ho-shik hated In-kwon? But he literally gambled away all his money that he couldn't even feed his own daughter. Instead of holding a grudge, he ought to be thankful to In-kwon for helping him turn his life around.

I really didn’t expect this storyline to be my favorite.

These episodes were so powerful and raw. I felt for both the dads and the teens. Nobody is a winner in this situation, everybody lost something. It was just a complicated mess of disappointment, anger, love and stubbornness.

Noh Hee-kyung has the ability of showing the absolute ugly side of characters but the human side too. That’s why I love her writing.

It’s good that Young-joo and Hyun are united and determined, but they are painfully naïve. Their amazement at the idea of Hyun making 26 million won, which wouldn’t get them far in Seoul with a baby, was sad. Young-joo is in for a rude awakening if she thinks she can have the baby over winter break and then just return to school, no problem. The two dads might have gotten further if they had managed to stay calm and ask them practical questions.

It’s sad such a close friendship ended because of something In-gwon said (and Ho-sik probably deserved) but sometimes the truth hurts the most and pride is a powerful thing.

So much angst while watching this episodes. The kids are awfully naive but my heart broke for them and their fathers

These episodes, Woof. I cried a great deal. It is one of those interesting things where I think to myself how sad we haven't gotten past thinking of teen pregnancy as a death sentence. I would be angry if my teenager got pregnant, but I wouldn't say her life was over. It was a bit like the dads were trying to create a self-fulfilling prophesy. If you don't help the two of them, they are more likely to fail, but if you help them they are more likely to succeed. However, they couldn't look past their anger and bitterness at their wives leaving them(rightfully so, honestly, not leaving the kids, but leaving the men) to see their children. The actors did a good job. What a mess.

I didn't really like those episodes. I don't feel anything for the kids or the fathers. I'm not a fan of people who always scream to express themselves.

Both fathers are bad fathers, they love their kids but food and a home don't make you a good parent, it's just the basic. The parents are so important in the way the child will evolve. You need to give love, respect, compliment to grow their selfesteem and teach them manners, tasks to let them live in the society.

For the kids, they showed a feeling of superiority, they will leave the island, become better than their parents, people on the market etc. But at the end, they have no idea what they're doing. They never really took the time to discuss about the pregnancy, all the possibilities, their consequences. First, it was Young-joo saying she will abort without any discussion, then she decided to keep it.

It's sad how no adult took the time to listen and give advices.

These episodes didn’t pull any emotional punches. They were powerful, but difficult to watch. Kudos to the actors playing the dads and the teens. My emotions were all over the place.
First, I think the dads should have been thrown in the slammer long before they landed there. A night or two in jail might have cooled their temps until reasonable heads prevailed. Although, maybe that would have been asking for too much.
Yes, your kids are having a baby and it’s not an ideal situation, but for heaven’s sake, it’s not the end of the world. They’re not the first and they won’t be the last kids to “get in trouble”. Will it be easy for them like they envision? No, of course not. But it can be done. I’ve seen it done irl. But yes, it will take parental support. And the dads need to remember, EVERYONE makes mistakes and is deserving of grace and forgiveness. Aren’t they prime examples? That whole island is an example of life not working out as planned.
Something tells me the dads’ next feud is just warming up: fighting over who gets to take care of that grandbaby. One can only hope.

The writer is making the teenage pregnancy a major plotline and I hope the intention is to show that the father's behaviour is not the way to deal with this sort of problem.

Even after the initial, understandable shock they still try to make the pregnancy go away by shouting, fighting, violence and emotional blackmail, none of which offers a solution, naturally. They are appalling parents.

Particularly In-kwon's attitude is repellent. By giving his son condoms he condones and expects his son to have sex. Does he think that using condoms will make him not responsible for a pregnancy? Is he really an adult in this time of age?

I have some sympathy with Young-joo's father. As a father it is more difficult to talk to a daughter about responsible sex and protection, but it still is his failure not to be aware of his daughter's relationship with Hyun. He should blame himself, not his daughter. Kicking her out is the lowest of low!

The teenager's solution is certainly naïve and there could be better ways, with the help of the school and the money of the future grandparents. Clearly the school does not want a pregnant teenager in the class room. It would make more sense to allow the girl to drop out for a year and have the baby and recover, while the boy completes his education. Then he could take a parenting year to allow the girl to finish her schooling.

The only thing that will not work is shouting and yelling.

Ugh, I really do not get how the Dads do not understand the health risks to Young-Joo for getting an abortion at 24+ weeks?! How can they be *this* clueless? I forgive them largely because of the fact that their insistence is not in the name of ~fAmILy HoNOr~ but rather out of their paternal love for the kids and their eventual future. But still. </3

I also largely enjoyed the acting performance this week. It was truly a treat to watch the more physically as well as emotionally challenging scenes. The Dads are such great actors. A-listers, who? :P
I legit cried ugly-tears at the last scene & based on that alone, I'm petitioning for a spinoff of just these 4, after the show ends :')

The PPLs this week were very slyly slid in. The soda as well as the indestructible Samsung phone that survived In-Gyeon's rage. I must also say the comic-timing of this show is impeccable! I'm convinced the fan, where Young-Joo confesses to Ho-Sik, is a paid actor.

I'm glad the show is finally performing to the potential it was promised. And we are getting performances that deserve the praise. I'm also living for the Woobie X Mina crumbs, heh! Thank you show! <3

Poor unborn child.

The last scene definitely hit hard. I ugly cried through the whole thing with Hyun and his father. To see In-kwon just deflate when his son said he was embarassed of him his whole life, after his struggle and effort…oof, right in the feels. How he wasn’t a good son or husband, but he’d tried his hardest to be a good father and still failed in his son’s eyes. Though it was obviously said in anger, Hyun probably didn’t really realise how deep the wound was until their last conversation here.

Easily the best scene in the show so far, and while I was flip flopping back and forth on whether I was even enjoying the show, this cemented that I’ll at least check out what’s to come, despite a lot of uncomfortable moments.

Sorry, but I find watching this drama to be a chore. Gee, whod-ah thought getting pregnant as a teen would be so hard on the DADs?
Seriously, can we take the patriarchy any further than this?
A young bright woman does something stupid twice and gets to pay a big price. Two grown ass men behave like entitled fools for many years and THEY get all the drama arc? Even FF couldn't wash the stink off these eps.

I’ll tell you how I can have lesson learned from this drama. Don’t try to categorize each character in black or white, protagonist or antagonist, ideal or undesirable. For every character is flawed, done or still do some stupid or even immoral deeds, but we know there also another things like hard work, wisdom, kindness, and importantly redemption, a willingness to do better. The good done is not a justification for the bad, but the bad also should not be the only thing used to define one self. After all, this is a slice of life drama, and life stories are full of its ups and downs, joy and sorrows, sins and glory, pain and love.

In-Gwon as a father may not refined in his speech and light handed it’s no wonder he earned disrespectfulness from Hyeon. But also, he strive to do better for Hyeon. He lived an embarassing life, and lost his mother because of that. But losing his mother is enough for him to get a grip, to not lose more, to not lose Hyeon. That is why he can stand in front of Hyeon and said “though I can’t say the same to my mother and wife, but at least to you, I know I’m doing my best”, and at least for me, it’s true. At long shot, his life has it embarassments, but as long as he keep doing his best, it’s will mot turn into a shameful one.

And these kids, I love how the writer at the same time could show us characters who have the maturity that doesn’t have anything to do with age, but also owned a certainty and arrogance only youth can have. The arrogance of not saying sorry for done things that could lead to the pregnancy and stop attending school, things they know tore their father’s heart, but at the same time expect their father provide home for them to live together, goes to college with hard earned money of their father and certainty their father will do it for them after what the had done. Things that are taken for granted because they don’t live long enough to know or understand how much blood, sweat and tears to provide all of that especially if you are emotionally broken. Thank God in the end both kids realize how much heartache they have caused and finally have the decency to say sorry to their father. At the same time, it is not easy for teenagers to be fully determined to take rensponsibility of having the baby when people around you, especially the one you love suggest you to do the opposite. I believe even a lot of adult who experienced the same couldn’t have done that. It is easier for them to chose their own convenience over their baby’s life.

this story is the best so far..i didn't expect I would cry so much over this...the message is very clear but still some people don't get it lol

I'm on adults side..judgemental adults are very realistic, the hardship that the young father has to go through is so realistic, young mom has to go school with sick body..these are very clear message to teenagers out there..this is why they included this story..even tho I'm sure the neighborhood and dads will help to raise the kids anw..but I'm glad they included all the struggle process to get accepted. And the way the ended it with kids apologized to their parents..as they should..I'm very thankful for that

For those who may find it interesting, the Korean word Ho-Shik uses when he tells Young-joo to go to the hospital and get rid of the "baggage" is 혹 which can mean baggage, but more typically refers to a lump or a cyst growing in/on one's body.

To my mind that was a much more hurtful meaning than "baggage".

I love this week's episodes so much. It's very raw and imperfect and real. The actors did so well.

I'm glad they had their big fight because now that everything's out in the open, they can take steps to repair their family's friendship.

I thought the first 2 episodes of the drama were good, but for me, each episode is getting better and more riveting. These 2 were mesmerizing. The story, the acting, the beauty of the island, the emotions are hard to turn away from. I had to watch them slowly, because of the raw emotions, but the ending scene of 8 was worth the effort. Who hasn't said something hurtful to our parents that can never be unsaid? All we can do is ask for forgiveness and rely on our parents' love to provide the healing.

Who would have thought that the teen pregnancy arc with no star actors attached turns out to be THE best so far!

Teenage pregnancy story is normally not my favorite (with perhaps the exception of Juno) but I was very impressed by the earlier episode (Ep 5?) that started this arc. The two young actors especially the girl who plays Young-joo is simply wow, showing both her brain and vulnerability. I was so disappointed that Ep 6 focused on other characters because these two and their responses to the pregnancy make me care.

But nothing prepares me for the raw emotions and brilliance in Ep 7 and 8. It’s certainly all hells break loose as expected but it’s consummate storytelling to blend the back story of the two fathers well to the current days. They are still largely the same persons but both have done their utmost to raise the kids and become proud parents - best achievements in their lives. Who are we to judge if they are good or bad parents, let alone from the Western lens? Both actors delivered the best performance in Our Blues and I hope they get the recognition they so deserve.

Our Blues is certainly not a light watch but it’s so deeply affecting for all the ordinary people stories. I simply love it in equal measure as My Liberation Notes - although I’d normally watch MLN first before tacking the heavy OB.

Without wishing in any way to diminish the seriousness & importance of this episode's theme and the many insightful comments here regarding parenting, etc, the tilting fan bit was well done.