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Open Thread #752

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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You can call it poaching talent. Yonhap News reports several talented South Korean TV directors s are poised to begin their Hollywood careers. Director Lee Myung-woo, who helmed the action comedy "The Fiery Priest" (2019) and the crime thriller "One Ordinary Day" (2021), signed a Lee is expected to be the show runner on an English-Korean language series based on a true story of a Korean American musician.

Lee Na-jeong, director of "Love Alarm" (2019) and the mystery thriller "Mine" (2021), is also set to make her Hollywood debut. She became the first Korean female TV director to have joined a U.S. management agency.

Some leading Korean filmmakers have already waded into Hollywood, driven by works of big name directors like Park Chan-wook and Bong Joon-ho, who produced the English-language drama films "Stoker" (2013) and "Okja" (2017), respectively.

Filmmaker Jang Joon-hwan of the political film "1987: When the Day Comes" (2017) is working on a project to direct the English-language remake of his 2003 science-fiction cult movie "Save the Green Planet!," with a script written by Will Tracy and produced by the Korean powerhouse CJ ENM.

Director Jung Byung-gil, who made the action thriller "The Villainess" (2017), has joined the CAA to direct two English-language projects, including the TV series version of his 2017 project.

It will be presumed that these directors may cast Korean actors who can speak English in their projects which would open the international door for new artist opportunities. It also answers the question of why Korean series are captivating audiences. Iconic Hollywood director John Ford once said that to make a great picture it needs scale. He would shoot his Westerns in the desert or mountain foothills with shots of 100 yards to a mile to capture the scale of nature as a supporting element. Korean movie makers bring their cinematic scale to the home screen with gritty details in set design, camera shots and story settings. You can get that level today only with a big budget and time which is something the international streaming companies can give a production company.

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Weih, this is very interesting (as are all your posts.) I look forward each week to your contribution to the open thread.

The point about scale adapted to the home screen is thought-provoking. I might also cite the ability of Korean film makers to put a distinctive twist on familiar Hollywood genres--action thrillers, romances, sci-fi fantasy. However, there is one other thing that can't be neglected. Everyone rightfully credits Netflix, but I think even more important is the international power of CJ Group and other Korean entertainment conglomerates, which has extended into the U.S. industry for some time now. I'm not a fan of powerful corporations generally, but I've always been impressed with Miky Lee, as a female "mogul" who, as I understand it, pretty much brought kpop to the U.S., was the key sponsor to Bong Joon Ho, and whose other Hollywood connections have paved the way for this flow of Korean talent to Southern California. What I find particularly remarkable about her, as a brilliant and powerful woman executive, part of the Samsung chaebol, is that she is willing to fund projects like Parasite--which are so critical of the society of which she is a part.

Actually, not to run on about this, that is what I admire about a lot of kdramas, and its what made some American t.v. shows good as well--the awareness and critique of social problems even as they provide humor, action, and romance, that make the critique less preachy and easier to swallow.

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Mikey Lee is one of those "black sheep" of generational wealth who uses her trust funds towards artistic pursuits.

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Well it kind of makes sense since nothing hollywood makes is particularly good, (its gotten faaaar worse over the last 8 or so years). Now they need to poach talent from elsewhere to keep audience attention because the stuff they produce is substandard, mediocre and just plain bad.

Happy for the creators though and the opportinities it might bring for them, but Hollywood is beyond saving at this point, i hope they take the cash and run.

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Major eyeroll at this comment.

We're still in the golden age of television in the West, and Hollywood has made some amazing films recently. Not sure what TV and films you're watching, but these generalizations come off as try-hard and uninformed.

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“Nothing Hollywood makes is particularly good.”

Uhh I would suggest watching more movies. Especially those that aren’t blockbuster superhero flicks. There’s some great cinema coming out of Hollywood right now, especially from the realm of mid-budget or independent cinema. I’m tired of people making such wide and uninformed generalizations just because they’re only familiar with Disney blockbusters.

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This. Just off the top of my head for amazing content that Hollywood has churned out recently:

TV Shows: Succession; White Lotus; The Leftovers; Fleabag; Watchmen; Fargo

Movies: Licorice Pizza; The Batman; Dune; Nomadland

I know it's a regular past-time for some kdramas to shit on Western content to assert superiority, but you don't need to pull one down to bring the other up. Both excel in their own areas, and the incoming cross-cultural pollination between Hollywood and K-ent is something to look forwards to.

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Honestly this makes me very excited for the potential for Kdramas and Korean stars in general. The world is slowly but surely opening up and I hope racist right wingers don't push back against the diversification of mainstream entertainment. I know OTT isn't perfect but they truly have changed the way the world views entertainment. Which brings me to ask will Pachinko be recapped on DB? I really hope it will be because it looks epic in the best way.

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2 big events ignored past few weeks - inflation and climate. I'm more into climate and agree with our senior @kwan
INflation world over - uncertain energy sector - weather damaging crops - there is no food security. Enjoy while the show lasts..

Little BOy still has the momentum - showing more courage in spring.

time for hanami festival.

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I've mentioned a webtoon titled 'Cross the Line' that I wish to be made into a drama. It's about a debt collector and a girl he saves. While waiting for the writer's update, I scrolled on the web and, voila, found 'Yeon Lok Hon' (wondering who'll be the most suitable actress playing the brave imperial general a.k.a the king's knight). Other fun series were 'There must be a happy ending', and the latest one: 'Shadow Bride'.
Yepp. I guess my junior-high-school hobby comes up to the surface.

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It's crazy to think how much unexpected joy A Business Proposal has brought to my week....original watch followed by multiples rewatches during the week while waiting for next week's episodes to drop. Love all four protagonists, five if I count Grandpa.

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A drama that warrants immediate rewatches is always a precious find!
I'm (not so) patiently waiting to check it out myself - it'll drop in my country next month only. Meanwhile, I try to emulate Candy FL positivity while pointlessly refreshing Netflix.

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Six if I count Ha-min. Their bickering sibling relationship is so fun, and I can't wait until Tae-mu meets his future brother-in-law.

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The great thing about it is that its so self-aware, so you can have the pleasure of seeing all the old familiar romance tropes while laughing at them at the same time. As several of the commentators on the business proposal thread have said one thing I've always loved is when shows make references to the characters watching cheesy kdramas. The reason I find that particular plot device so enjoyable is that the characters are always saying EXACTLY the same things that I say to the screen. In Business Proposal, the grandpa saying "how petty" when the boss in the show was behaving in the same way his grandson boss was just great, because I had said exactly the same thing about the grandson character just 5 minutes before! And then when the woman on the show within the show hit the guy with the chicken leg (not the first, pork cutlet slap, which was hilarious in itself) and one of the observers said "that would hurt even more, because of the crispy breading," that's what I was thinking as well! My fan reaction is just too easy to parody!

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Same here. I can’t remember the last time I’ve so obsessively rewatched previous episodes while waiting for new ones. This drama is a true gem. I honestly have no real complaints about it and that’s remarkable. Totally reminded me to not judge a drama by its bad posters lol.

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Agree about the posters!
And to think I wanted to take a pass on it?!🤪

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I wanted to pass this one on account of the posters as well. Oh what a loss that would’ve been 😭. Thank god I impulsively decided to give the first episode a chance.

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I watched the first 2 episodes of HBO Minx and I really liked it. It's about a woman in the 70's who wants to create a magazine about feminism but she doesn't find a publisher (oh surprise). The FL is very interesting because if she's a feminist but she completely occulted the women sexuality from her discourse. She must rethink it when she found a publisher fo her magazine but who publishes porno magazines. It's kinda crude but funny and interesting.

And I missed Jake Johnson :p

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I started running regularly this week, after 4-5 years when I gave up on workouts and fitness regimes. It's a new thing I'm adding into my life because I used to enjoy it immensely. I run for 5-10 minutes only because after that I start swaying slightly and seeing darkness but I am quite excited.

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I just went back from an evening walk today. Cheers to more regular exercises!

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You can never go wrong incorporating movement and exercise in your routine

I started swimming, hiking and working out during and after covid restrictions were lifted. I felt so much better afterwards, my anxiety levels decreased and my general well being improved.

Keep at it and dont stop, fighting!!!!!!

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I started running again this year after years of not because of an injury - it’s so nice to have it back as part of my routine. Building up gradually is important! I am taking it super slow so I don’t trigger my injury again.

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Just started Business Proposal last night. Last time I watched Ahn Hyo Seop was in Thirty But Seventeen and he looks so different I did not recognize him. I looked up his recent dramas like LOTRS and I hardly see any resemblance to his
present look. Is it just me?

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No, I keep staring at him, trying to find the kid from Thirty But Seventeen. I thought I had it wrong that he was in that show previously.

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It's the hair. I prefer Tae-mu's ​after-shower, hair-down, fuzzy-sweaters ​look at home because he looks so soft just like Ahn Hyo-seop.

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I expressed this sentiment when I first saw the stills of TBP. I thought and still think his face changed a lot from his look in Romantic Doctor 2. I don’t mind the changed though I have to admit that his face did change. It’s much chubbier now compared to then.

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Count me in as well. I was doubtful when i saw he was in My Father is Strange and in that role i found him quite attractive. But I could not make the connection between him as Tae-mu in BP. I thought is is just him losing weight. But i think he did something to his eyes, a lid perhaps(?). There is another guy who I think also did something to his eyes as I barely recognised him as well, the Chinatown resto owner. He looks different than his Pride and Prejudice role. It's a personal choice, I know, but I wished they just left their eyelids alone. They're cute as it is. And in acting, we can get more expression on their faces and eyes if they natural.

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The jaw looks different too. Wondering if it’s because his face filled out.

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It’s Friday now! *throws confetti*

Now I’m happy I have 3 dramas and 1 variety show to watch. It’s definitely a great drama season for me. I’m watching 2521, TBP, FLAW, and 2D1N. I’m yet to catch up with last week’s episodes of FLAW.

... Have a good weekend everyone! 💖

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"A Business Proposal" has gotten me thinking of all the dramaland rom-coms i've watched over the few years.

Dali & Gamjatang was so underrated, the writing wasnt always good but it managed to stick its landing and our main couple adorable as hell.

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I recently watched Just Between Lovers and I was surprised that the FL’s coworker there played Dali!!!! She rocked this role in D&G.

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Happy weekend Beanies and keep Beaning On!

Yesterday was a bad day for my anxiety because I had to deal with one of my main triggers. Fortunately, I had done all that I could to prepare myself for it, and I managed to distract myself at times instead of dreading Thursday every waking minute, which made this week bearable in the end. Most of those distractions were K-drama episodes that I gobbled up as soon as they aired, after agonizing all day that I had to wait for them to be aired first!😆

There are also nice distractions offscreen, like baking. The Strawberry Pie this week was a success and an Apple Pie has therefore been scheduled already for next week.😋But first I am going on a weekend trip. This is going to be the ultimate agoraphobia battle. Travelling by train, visiting two cities far from home, meeting up with friends I have not seen since the pandemic broke out, and spending the night at their place. They are understanding and chill, so I know all will be well, but still.🤷‍♀️

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Wishing you the very best of outcomes for your trip 🌞

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Thank you!❤️

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It’s good to challenge yourself just a tiny bit sometimes! You’re a strong person, Turtie, and you have great people around you! I hope the trip goes well!

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I hope so too! Thank you!❤️

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Good luck!

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Thank you!❤️

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I randomly miss the old DB with jb and gf. Does anyone here has a clue on what they are doing now? Is there a chance they are still writing about K-dramas somewhere? (To the PEOPLE of the present DB, I think many of us here love you and appreciate your efforts, so keep it up!)

So this week I just found out that a lot of people love how A BUSINESS PROPOSAL has turned out, so I'm gonna watch episode 1 after looking around here.

And lastly, I read these rankings of the highest rated Korean dramas in 2021 and found INTERESTING trends in TV ratings, including the lack of a JTBC series in the top 10 for cable. In you case you don't know or have forgotten, the most watched cable dramas in 2020 and 2019 are JTBC's THE WORLD OF THE MARRIED & SKY CASTLE, respectively. Plus, HISTORICAL DRAMAS rock in the rankings! If you want more data, here's the link: https://rypler.com/highest-rated-korean-dramas-2021/

Have a great weekend, everyone!

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Hi, some beanies pointed out that JB wrote a post on her (personal) blog about Eternal King of Monarch (Lee Min Ho's drama), I remember beanies put the link, and I visited it, it was a fun post (JB GF and LMH, what not to love? haha), but sorry I don't recall the link.
and if I'm not mistaken, some beanies have also mentioned that JB and GF scripted The Swoon on Netflix, which from I understand is produced by Netflix to accompany korean content on the platform. I only watch the swoon on youtube for CLOY and HP, and again, it was fun. So i guess both JB and GF still do what they love: deconstructing korean tv shows :)

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Better opportunity for them. I had no idea they are the people behind The Swoon, which early in March hosted Song Kang's virtual fan meet.

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Yes, JB AND GF are working for Netflix now. They have a team of people that provide content on YT, IG , and maybe even Twitter. The Swoon is them.

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Oh wow. I am familiar with The Swoon and its Eng-subbed drama trailers. I have no idea until now that I've been encountering JB and GF's work all this time. Thank you!

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