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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

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Dal-li and Gamjatang: Can Dal-li catch a break? This poor, sweet woman is just minding her own business, yet people keep finding reasons to make her life miserable. Tae-jin, in particular, is infuriating. Every time I think I can’t hate him more, he does something worse. And now he’s practically holding Dal-li hostage by dangling the idea that only he can protect her family. Ugh.

The Veil: As I expected, I lost interest toward the end. I think part of the issue was that the whole Baek Mo-sa thing didn’t work that well for me. I found the initial memory stuff and mystery interesting, but I got bored with the agency politicking. Namgoong Min was great, but everything else was meh.

Hometown: I kept waiting for some sibling showdown or at least some tense interactions, but they never came. We got one conversation between Jung-hyun and Kyung-ho the entire drama, which wasn’t nearly enough. The ending left a lot of questions unanswered. Were Kyung-ho’s visions real, a ruse, or was he ill? What exactly was this “end of the future” business he went on and on about? Overall, I enjoyed it but was a bit disappointed by the end. I do have to give a shoutout to the adorable teen friend gang; I could watch a whole drama of those girls solving mysteries and having each other’s backs.

 

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Police University: I finished it! And I’m glad I did. It was a pretty heartwarming ending, even if some of the bows were a little too neat (why couldn’t we see Min-kyu become friends with them before the time jump?). And overall I thought it felt pretty true to the message of learning from past mistakes and getting second chances while still having to face what you’ve done. I’ll admit I didn’t really care about Professor Seo’s story, but I’m glad it was him and not one of the other two professors, so I’ll take it.

The King’s Affection: I’m three episodes in, and I think I have all the major names and faces straight now. (Well, faces and titles/relation to main characters.) I feel like I spent more time than usual going, “Ohhh, he’s that guy. That makes more sense.” But yeah, I think I’ve got it now. So far I’m loving this show, both in the serious moments and when it decides to go the more trope-y route, and now that the setup is done, I’m ready to settle in for the meat of the story.

 

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The King’s Affection: I’m a sucker for a good ol’ fashioned gender-bending trope, so when I saw that there was going to be a drama about a woman disguising herself as a king, I couldn’t hit play fast enough. Park Eun-bin’s masculine mannerisms are convincing enough to make me believe that her character has spent the last ten years being raised as a prince, but I rolled my eyes during the second episode when her femininity was supposedly exposed and on full display because her hair was let loose…during an era when men had long hair…Ohhhh-kaaaaay…Seriously, why is it always long hair and never the complete lack of an Adam’s apple that makes people go, “Hmmm…Dude looks like a lady?”

One the Woman: Another guilty pleasure of mine is a plot with switched twins/doppelgängers. Unfortunately, this drama isn’t holding my attention, and I often use it as background noise while fooling around on my phone. There’s not much chemistry between the lead couple, and the writers really need to watch a Project Runway marathon so Tim Gunn can school them on how less is more. I’m going to try and see this one through to the end, but I’m already a week behind on the episodes, which isn’t a good sign.

Dal-li and Gamjatang: There’s something irresistibly endearing about this drama, and after ten episodes, it still blows my mind that the same Kim Min-jae played the mild mannered Joon-young in Do You Like Brahms? I just wish the writers would stop dragging out all the behind-the-scenes intrigue and give me more art museum hijinks. At least we no longer have to deal with intense close-up shots of Dal-li’s childhood drawing tube of doom and drugs.

Mr. Sunshine: A friend and I have been meeting up virtually twice a week to watch Mr. Sunshine (currently on episode 17). This is a rewatch for me, but I technically never made it all the way to the end my first time watching it. I couldn’t bring myself to sit through the inevitable sad ending, especially not without a tub of cookie dough on hand to catch my tears. I always planned to suck it up and come back to this drama because it was too good to leave unfinished, so I’m thankful I have my friend, who has never seen it before, to hold me accountable. We’re getting to that point where stuff’s about to get intense, though, so I need to stock up on tissues, chocolate, and wine.

 
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CRICKET - T20 world cup. Matches are not as much interesting but yesterday 2 matches were good watch.

Group A was decided to be the toughest one and it still is but Group B turned out to be the more entertaining one.
Only if Afghansitan had won yesterday's match it would have turned all future matches into extra crucial and semi-knockout matches.

Next year is T20 world cup too. Then we have ODI world cup in 2023 - then we test championship too. So many big events in such a short time. World cups are money making smart scheme. There was no way ICC would allow some health emergency ruin the scheme of things and now we have to see 4 big events in 3 years. good.

Let cricket make a few more inroads in USA and then try to create more space in Japan and Korea then China will step in. Bang, you have perfect mixture of sport - entertainment and geopolitics.

Female cricket is good to create new avenues in unknown regions and they are doing better job at that. Its easy if you want money then become competitive - You have to do something to become a challenger of Football. AN official good quality Cricket would go far attracting lot of viewers.

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JAPAN -

Super Rich - 7/10 - Episode 2 is as much as good as episode 1. Our heroine is truly a female lead and deserves applause for carrying the story as side characters are your typical copy-paste but atmosphere around these characters isn't as much annoying. Overall the energy of heroine rubs off well on these characters and make them behave slightly different from the circle they actually are part of.

30 heroine with 21 hero - It has several episodes translated now. manga to live-action. 23 min per episode is saving grace. Story reminds your typical Japanese cheating wife porn. I'm more than sure that smut and vanilla romance is where the manga is getting its media from. If no one has knowledge then google you gonna get the information your are looking for. Covers alone will make you go ohhhh.

There are who-is-who and who done it dramas going on and i mostly stay away from such dramas. Waiting for better slice of life this season.

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'Smut & vanilla'. xD xD xD
Must be a cheap af copy, cuz nobody does smut as well as Dori. I thought it was only china plagiarizing posters from korea, but sees like the disease has crossed the seas. -_-

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I won't call it a trend when manga is such a particular part of Japanese culture. Mature stuff magazines were always there. I could digest vanilla but smut most of the time reminded me of those aggressive thai heros so i avoid it most of the time. Korean webtoons ventured into softporn territory way too early and they got success in that.

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Smut and Vanilla!!! :-D :-D :-D

I am still sitting on the fence about Rich People.

I am watching "Junkyouju Takatsuki Akira no Suisatsu " and while the "mysteries" are not always up to the mark, I love to know about folks tales or urban myths.

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KOREA -

Ms. Seo - 2 episodes extra is far more engaging and interesting. Plot is cliche but writer is showing Seo and Chun Woo in such a light that the limits of the show with its bodybuilder hero into superhero mode appears way weak. You can stand for Chun Woo way more and in the same way you get to see more human Seo. That's what Hero couldn't do. Action is also here but here we see the humans and not a superhero and that i think is way more +ve factor.

3 slightly unhinged draunkards 4/10 - Episode 1 was funny and i was like these 3 females were intentionally doing that to the guy but they were actually like that. At 1st i was ready to criticise the show for its propaganda of alcoholism and it still is romantising drinking but somewhere show is going right too.
That Origami female is one i like most for now.
They need professional help and urgently.
So much drinking and then eating food looked like stereotype of females eat a lot. All those scenes reminded me of those news of people sleeping in public places and reliving themselves without any control of their blader and body. Seen too often such pics. For some reason they look somewhat close to typical kfandom.

Mountain run - 6/10 - story isn't half bad but writing+direction surely is atrocious. seems like director saw a camera drone for the 1st time. 1st episode was headache. 2nd episode writer cleanly shouted that this is episodic show playing puzzles. Heroine disabled and hero gone is smart move. But everything being so dramatic for no reason surely not bodes well for a show. Then we have pretty CGI. ohh hoo ho. For now story is engaging enough to move ahead.

No weekend drama - no dailies.

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And Stokes is back for the Ashes. If the Ozzies play Test as appallingly as they did today in the t20 I reckon they could lose to an English team which seems to be coming good.

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I'm happy for root. The guy alone taking his team over for so long and now has stokes on his side. Without a quality pacer England will find it quite troublesome to win in Australia. Archer is good but he's way too much momentum player. if things not go his way initially then his pace as well enthusiasm drops significantly. Then we are left with handsome wood.

I'm rooting for root. Butler and bairstow noway are test standard and yet both have played so many test matches. Little tweeks here and there and England Test side can compete in Australia. ODI side a powerhouse in its own way.

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The King’s Affection: Our poor Prince. I say it every time I comment, but I feel so bad for her. I wish she knew she had an ally in her cousin. I wish she knew she could be herself. I also want to note I laughed so hard when the Dowager Queen threw that thing at her (nephew?).

Lovers of the Red Sky: It ended nicely for our lovers. I don’t understand what happened, but at least they ended nicely. Nice and pat. As for the Prince and his brother, that was dramatic. It either ended well for Yul or this was the beginning of a sequel.

High Class: They certainly pulled one over on An Joon. The fact that he would kidnap Yi chan is insanely obvious. I haven’t the faintest why she didn’t see that coming.

Da Li and the Cocky Prince: I want their kisses to not be accompanied by slaps. Also, I appreciate they recognize they are both adults and should act accordingly. As for Tae Jin, they really went the EXTRA mile for his villainy. My God what a bloody f*&*&*! ass@#$%. He is terrible. I mean Damn. Before I knew what he said to her about being reborn, I might have sympathized a little with him, but after that, Nope. Almost every adult’s response to her being adopted was DISGUSTING. ICKKD. Our cocky prince’s reaction was so cute though. AWWW. I now understand why he calls his stepmom that woman though, yikes. Woo Tak continues to be my favorite though. Just a delightful character. Dali also is going through it, poor woman, she just wants some loving from her man and to run her gallery in peace. Let her live. I also said, finally, when Moo Hak apologized to her.

Reflection of You: This show is a soap operatic mess. Birth secrets, babies, adultery, revenge. A lot is happening.

Hometown: I haven’t had time to finish this.

One the Woman: Just waiting for Mi Na to show up.

Inspector Koo: I hope it is interesting. I will dismiss that it is loosely based off of killing eve and enjoy it for what it is.

Chimera: I want to try this. I hope it is good.

Jirisan: I was bored by the beginning of episode 2, so dropped.

Lost: I really loved this drama. I thought it was a fantastic look at broken people. I don’t think this was a healing drama, so much as a drama about possibilities. Also, a drama about how love can grow even in the depths of despair. When CS told BJ about how her pulling his ear as a child helped bring him out of his despair is an example of this. In their case the love lasted, but it doesn’t necessarily have to, tt can be short and sweet like BJ and KT too. I think that is why the drama ended in that way with them gazing at the universe.

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Why is Viki listing "episodes 11-17"?

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For?

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I was planning to catch up with Yumi and King's Affection... and to check the long awaited Jirisan... but then I fell into a slump and watched cdrama Once We Get Married instead. No, this is no top drama and it has quite the cliché rich-guy-makes-a-contract-marriage-with-a-random-heroine-and-they-fall-in-love plot (with every cliché scene between the couple you can think of)... but... Wang Ziqi is playing the cold smirky CEO to a C 😁 and I'm having fun (especially with the Hero's talks with his Male Secretary).

I also tried to finish Crush, but the late episodes are terrible, or more precisely terribly stupid 🙄 and I'm not sure I will manage, ever. A pity, as the first third was quite good and Evan Lin was quite convincing as a visually impaired hero (at least to my amateurish eye). I'm ploughing through mainly because of him, though I may rather wait for his new drama Fall in Love (finally a date set to 9th November!)

Watching also Bite Sisters, YouTube vampire kdrama with Kang Hana. 😁
-- For a woman, the guy she is with NOW is her first love. Unlike a man who gets hung up on his first love. -- 😀

And watching Dali. I never skip Dali.
(Taejin is a scumbag of the highest order and I just hope Dali and Muhak will continue communicating and cooperating. No Noble Idiocy please!)

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I swear I checked three times before posting and yet I missed one important slash to close the bold font. I'm generally having some -forgetful- days, I even forgot to bring our car for a check up recently 🙈

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Yeah, I'm also praying to the trope gods to keep noble idiocy as far away from Dali as possible.

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Thanks for mentioning Bite Sisters.

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Yeah, the previews for Dali were pretty disappointing. You would think Dali could tell love from manipulation by now, and would realize what her father wants for her. But maybe she has to catch Tae-jin in the act to wake up.

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@dorotka—I've been a drama slump too and turned to a Taiwanese drama to spice things up. Just finished the Ep. 1 (parts 1 and 2) of Rainless Love in a Godless Land, a new Taiwanese drama airing on iQIYI. It’s written and produced by the same team behind 2019's masterful Someday or One Day.

Beanies—this could be something really special. The ancient Gods are leaving Earth and removing any memories related to their existence. One particular human, however, is too connected to the spirits (Kawa) and one (handsome) god in particular.

This promises to be magical, mystical, funny and romantic. Wonderful to see elements of Ami language and culture interwoven in this story. (Whispers: Will probably be a bit heartbreaking.)

Tagging Chinese-language drama fans @theintrovertbean, @oldlawyer, @egads (you loved Someday or One Day, right?), @dramafan12, @bebeswtz. Also tagging @carlybisek if you’re in the mood for another god/human romance!

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Mis-tagged @oldawyer. Thought your lady might like this too. It's a modern story but with mystical, magical elements.

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Actually I had already spotted this one and had tagged it for our watchlist on iQIYI. Thank you for the recommendation.

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And I forgot to add that my wife really liked SOMEDAY OR ONE DAY. It is really good news that this show is from the same team.

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@tsutsuloo I would love to watch this but I don't want to pay for another streaming service. Is it available without VIP on iQiyi?

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@wonhwa—Looks like VIP accounts get the latest episode one week early. It's streaming only one (two-part) episode/week on Sundays. 13 episodes stretching from Oct. 17 to Jan. 9!

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Thanks. Though I still have Taiwanese Love is Science? to finish which got paused because of Covid and then I have just never found time to come back to it. I need to clone myself 😁

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Jirisan: I know it got criticism for the CGI, which was perplexingly bad, but that I can deal with. The shaky cam for most of Episode 1 on the other hand …. The rescue scenes were ridiculously overdramatic and the cases of the week not particularly interesting. I don’t dislike the drama, but I find 95% of it boring, which is somehow worse. The 5% that is somewhat interesting doesn’t come until the very end of the episodes. They have an amazing cast, but I feel nothing for the characters. How can Oh Jung-se be forgettable? Hopefully it gets better, but watching people run around a mountain might not be my thing.

Yumi’s Cells: Not the break up card! My Sensitivity Cell is crushed but my Reason Cell understands that they were a sweet couple but the issues piled up. Woong is too proud and both have trouble communicating. I have really loved Ahn Bo-hyun in this role. Why is longer hair doing it for me this year?

The King’s Affection: I’m not a sageuk lover which may be why this drama is not doing much for me. I’m glad they showed us how Hyun learned the truth. I know Ji-woon is a royal tutor and means well with his lessons on how to be a better person, but he should try being Crown Prince and then talk.

Reflection of You: All of these people are just playing pretend. Hae-won is frustrating and sad. She’s destroyed herself over a guy who was never into her. Hee-joo wasn’t wrong in what she said to her, but she makes me ragey. She doesn’t seem all that remorseful even though she had an affair and possibly child from that affair, ran off to Ireland to play house with her lover, then drugged him and stole his passport so she could run back to her rich husband.

Would You Like a Cup of Coffee?: I love slice of life but the wonders of coffee are lost on me.

Drink Now, Work Later: Terrible. These women are obnoxious alcoholics. It’s not funny or charming to sleep in a doghouse or force your blind date to drink. WTF.

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"95% of it boring, which is somehow worse" Yes, I agree 100%. Bad can be a guilty pleasure but boring is the cardinal sin of entertainment.

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Amen to that.

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Absolutely. 'Will watch trash for oppa.'
Trash = bad, not boring. This, is sadly the latter. I love Ju Ji Hoon, but I guess... sorry, maybe next time xD

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Sadly, the wonders of coffee are similarly foregone on me 😔 However, I wholeheartedly partake in the splendor and comfort of a good cup of tea. 🥰

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For me, I'd love a cup of warm milk. Drops of honey are also a good addition. ☺️

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@mmmmm That sounds sublime!!

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Actually I wonder if the Japanese have ever done a family drama or maybe even a rom com involving a master of the Tea Ceremony and his children?

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@oldawyer Intriguing, that would be interesting to see!

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"Why is longer hair doing it for me this year?" - :-D I used to call it my Jimmy Morrison syndrome in my 20s. But it looks like I still have that soft spot for long hair. (Unless they are done in those historic top knot)

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Top knots are such a waste of a perfectly good mane of glory. And yeah, I might watch historical dramas in part for all the guys with great hair.

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Hee-joo is inexplicably unremorseful.

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Reflection of You (Episode 5-6) - Mood: C
The obvious twist is that Woo Jae is faking his amnesia: why does it feel so hopeless for me to dream that they’ll go for the anti-twist instead where he’s truly trying to remember his memories? Another anti-twist I hope they pull off is Ho Su really being Hyun Seong’s son instead of the heavily implied Woo Jae’s: an emotional affair drives the plot away from a makjang angle. To be honest, I hope the show does have more meat in the story than just “fallout from an affair”: there are limits as to how long you can drag it out and we’re only reaching the midpoint of the show. I’m not really optimistic?

The King's Affection (Episode 5-6) - Mood: D+
It’s good that the show recognises that it’s pointless trying to drag out the reveal that Lee Hyun knows The Truth but I’ll say that it would’ve been better if the flashback had given us more insight into his motivations since all I got out of that is him being a cat lover. So far, the minor leads haven’t been developed beyond being superficial romance obstacles: it better not be their entire characterisation for 20 episodes! The story continues to be driven by the same-old politics: I’ll never get engaged with that! And the preview already screams evil foreigner cliche and diplomatic incident trope, sigh.

Yumi's Cells (Series review) - Mood progression: C+ / C+ / C / C- / C- / C / C-
While I do think the animation has had an overall positive effect on the story by giving it a fresh perspective, the plot so desperately needed a writer who could parse through the web-toon and only use the strong parts for the adaptation to enhance the drama’s quality while maintaining the intention of the original. Unfortunately, the inclusion of Sae Yi shows a clear lack of understanding of characterisation cliches. Why couldn’t we have gone with Yumi’s food preferences and Woong’s marriage preference as conflict sources? But even the latter might’ve been disguised noble idiocy, which sigh.

Also watched:
- Lovers of the Red Sky (Series review) - Mood progression: C / C- / C- / D+ / D / D / D- / D-, Gong Myung went from Be Melodramatic to this mess, enough said.
- High Class (Series review) - Mood progression: C / C / C / C- / C- / D+ / D / D-, It’s so bad that I don’t even need to watch the finale to comment on the whole show. How was she on the boat? How did she survive? How did he survive? How is he in Korea?
- One The Woman (Episode 11-12) - Mood: D+, It’s classic villain stupidity not checking the DNA results in advance.
- Dal-li and Gamjatang (Episode 11-12) - Mood: D, I nearly fast-forwarded the kiss and there’s implied noble idiocy in the preview.

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I 100% agree with your take on Reflection of You and I hope that is exactly what happens.

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Lovers of the Red Sky - I was only sticking on for the OTP and when they got their happy ending I felt nothing. This show had more style than substance.

ONGOING
The King's Affection - Loved the way Dami rescued Ji-un's friends - the way she took on his dad was pretty badass. I am liking the OTP and the gendered inversion of some classic rom-com tropes - reminds me of Search:WWW.

Dali and Gamjatang - Using the simple metric of how much fast-forwarding was required these were not a good set of episodes. I simply hate the idiotic intrigue and the fact that all the evils of the world keep befalling our poor leading lady. I did love the confrontation Moo-hak had with his dad but not much else. This show would have been so much better as a comedy of manners about 2 different worlds colliding in the art museum space.

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Jirisan - I liked it a fair bit in spite of some clearly hasting editing and CGI. I am invested in the mystery so I hope the show sticks the landing when we finally get the reveal. Also Ju Ji-hoon is 🥰

C-DRAMAS
Started Dear Diary and Out of the Dream and liking both so far.

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The worst thing is that when it started, Dali was a comedy of manners about 2 different worlds colliding in the art museum space. I loved that show!

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Exactly! It's now sadly lost in the wilderness of makjang birth secrets and extra-marital affairs. Sigh

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It boggles my mind that the creative team could not find enough things to say in this “comedy if manners”, in this “exploration of money v art v food”, … to fill the episode count and had to turn to the most stale of makjang tropes. The opening episodes were so good!

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Dali and Gamjatang ended up being the dark horse 🥰🥰 I do hope it stays good till the end 🤞

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The King's Affection I love Park Eun-Bin in this role! She said in an interview than more acting as man, she tried to act as a genderless character. I think it's interesting because her character had to grow up like this, it's not a sudden change anymore. I'm really excited to watch Dalm-Yi becoming a strong Crown Prince with the help of Ji-Woon.

Lovers of the Red Sky It's sad that the writer seemed to forget that this drama should have been about HCG painting and not about a demon. What was the point to be a divine painter if you need a goblin and the ghost of your father to make the painting. The final cliffhanger was pretty weird too.

Dal-li and Gamjatang I'm loosing my interest for this one. The adoption plot is so frustrating to watch. In 2021, can we adress this subject another way? I don't care about the politics around the museum/galery (they really need to choose what is it for once...). The ML still bothers me half of the time.

Yumi's Cells It's really a good drama. The characters looks so real with their fears, doubts.

Jirisan Not sure to continue this one... I will see after the 3 and 4 episodes.

Moebius : The Veil It's weird to watch the same characters like this. But the story is interesting. It's the same message than the main one, how the agency gives up its agents.

Work Later, Drink Now Watching girls destroying their liver like this, it's not fun. Dropped.

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I realised during this week of Dali that the show is weirdly dated, like watching a much older Makjang. It's also got serious tonal problems, switching from romcom to Makjang to melo about What Family Is. And while I find the discussion about family to be quite interesting, that wasn't what the show was about surely. It was about the relationship between money and art, between the basics of life such as food and the financial space to create. The show is literally called Dali (art) and Gamjatang (food).

Suddenly it's all about marrying for status and who is and isn't a part of your family. Don't get me wrong, that makes a great theme for a drama. But why is it in this drama.

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The theme of family would have been great if they used every clichés with the villain step-mother and brother, the hidden adoption and the shocking revelation...

The art and food were really great themes, it's sad they shifted for drugs, territory and politics...

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The optimist in me hopes it pulls it all together in a satisfying way and sticks the ending. The pessimist thinks they're throwing in all the genres because K-drama and forgetting the overall theme promised in the beginning.

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GROWING SEASON (Playlist/YouTube): A youth romance webtoon drama that was very well done. I binge watched the entire short series and its pace was excellent. The characters were not over the top; there were no crazy tropes or plot twists but a realistic depiction of young college women learning about relationships, love and friendship. The writer, Kim Hee Won, weaved in a college project on sex and relationships which the three FL used to discuss their experiences, opinions and judgments on their own relationships. The leads, Han Soo A, Park Ji Won and Kim Chae Eun, were all believable in their performances. I would recommend this series, especially as a four hour binge watch.

THE VEIL (Ep. 11 & 12): I thought last week there would a Western show down between JHJ and BMS and it did arrive at the bank rooftop but through several unnecessary plot manipulations which made the ending feel anti-climatic. Namkoong Min clearly carried the show but his character’s psychological choices were convoluted in a story with too many conflicting layers that his character’s performance was muted by lack of character development. Part of the issue was the show tried to fit too many genres into one show: kung fu/bloody crime action; a spy thriller; and an odd couple, buddy cop relationship. It could have been a lot better if the plot was more focused and the reliability of HJH memory and actions were less annoying especially when the end game went in a totally different direction.

HIGH CLASS (Ep. 14): The series has painted the men as monsters, jerks and immoral creeps, but the most powerful women now are not that far behind. As suspected, Ji Yong’s plan has always been about just The Money and covering his tracks which includes murder. It was revealed that the foundation and hotel group have been embezzling and laundering money but apparently that was not enough profit for Ji Yong so he wanted to steal it all. Of course, unrealistically, Yeo Wool puts a stop to it by just a phone call but that leads us to the dangerous confrontation with her “dead” and not sympathetic husband.

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I finished Kairos earlier this week. Overall a good thriller. It was fairly well written especially being a story playing with time. However, I had a hard time connecting with some of the main characters...

I watched Save Me and I only have one thing to say: DONG CHEOL! I know I know. I am 4 years late to the hype train but Woo Do Hwan was phenomenal in this role. He caught my attention the moment he showed up on screen even if he was half hidden behind Taekyeon.
I enjoyed this drama much more than expected even though some parts were frustrating to watch. It had high stakes, great cliffhangers, and a group of characters you couldn't help but root for. Seo Yeji was wonderful as Sangmi and I am glad she was not the classic damsel in distress. She was strong and had an active role in her own rescue. Loved it!

Yumi's Cells
One more episode to go but I already know how it will end. It's still cute and an easy watch. I don't have much more to say except I was a bit confused by Saeyi sudden reappearance. The last time she was mentioned, Woong was refusing to talk to her....?

Now that it is done airing, I am going to watch Human Disqualification! I'm excited to have both Ryu Joonyeol and Jeon Doyeon back on my small screen.

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Oh I forgot to say that I reached a drama watching milestone this week. I don't know if I should feel proud or mortified that I have now completed 300 dramas....

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Omo I’m too afraid to count

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Aja! Since the pandemic started, I’ve hit over 115. Still a far cry from your 300!😂

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Proud, definitely proud! 😁😁

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I started and stopped Save Me, but I'll restart because of your comments. Thank you 😊

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Dong Cheol! I tend to forget characters names as soon as I finish a drama, and it's testament of Woo Dohwan's awesomeness that I still felt a little heartbreak just from reading that a couple of years later! I tend to get that with WDH, to be honest... love him to bits! Woo Dohwan and Seo Yeji did a terrific job - in general, the young cast is really good. Taecyeon's gigantic ears are very cute, but, yes, WDH and SYJ acted circles around him

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Dong Cheol is still his best role to date imo. Which is kind of a shame. He's got the talent but his projects since Save Me have been disappointing (tempted, the king: blah blah).

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What about My Country and Mad Dog? I was tempted (oups pun) to add those two to my watch-list.
I wasn't considering The King:whatever because of the poor reviews but the only good things I have heard of The King were about Woo Dohwan's acting...

It's true that I have a hard time imagining him in a role that I would like more than Dongcheol. I really loved that character.

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I haven't seen my country so I can't comment, apart from sageuks not being my preferred genre. Mad dog wasn't bad but not very memorable either.
Oh I know he was good in the king but I couldn't sit through it just for him. That's why I said he has talent but his projects disappoint imo.
TLDR: I've yet to see him in a watchable (non sageuk) drama where his character is as compelling as DC.

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Reflection Of You: Well I'm still fascinated enough to go with the melo. Haewon continues to be in denial that sunbae does not/has never been in love with her. Heejoo is shameless, was a terrible friend, and will do anything to keep her comfortable affluent lifestyle. I'd initially thought that Mystic Ahjussi was also in denial/pretending the affair did not happen, but I'm starting to think he might not have known after all? Instead it's Lisa who is piecing the puzzle together. I don't know where this is all going.

Three Meals a Day: Doctors I was not prepared to see Hyun Been cry so hard, I teared up along with her ㅠ.ㅠ

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Heejoo is shameless 👏 👏 👏
Mystic Ajussi ❤ 😍

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The King's Affection: It keeps my attention but am still worried about the 20 episode count. I am gonna be disappointed if maid, eunoch and Crown Prince haven't thought of an exit plan. I mean eventually marriage and kiddos are expected. I do think the bro in the know is gonna help her escape.

Dali and Gamjatang: I love this couple the same way I loved the couple in Her Private Life. However, I see that this delightful rom/com is gonna go the same way and that is throwing a lot of angst and drama in the final weeks. Why can't writers trust their genre? It will still be a fav of mine just like HPL but I have found myself re-writing the drama. Land speculation politics is boring just like palace shenanigans is boring 89.523% of the time. They could have had art theft, people who buy art for investment and hide it away, or delved more into selling art instead of it just popping up and dealt with quickly. I've read two articles about US art museums having to sell more art than normal because of decreased revenues during Covid shutdowns. But no, we get stereotypical 2nd male lead, blah blah blah.

Having said all this, I've loved this show and hope it doesn't go the full melo in the final weeks. They are my top couple of the year. I just get frustrated. My favorite scene this week is the end of 11 when the ML is talking about family and pointing out the facade that exists all over. The rich girl being slapped by her dad etc.

I am pondering Yumi's Cell and Jirisan. A little worried about a second season being discussed on YC. Jirisan is getting such mixed reviews so I'll see if it settles.

Lovers of the Red Sky: Dropped at episode 10. Not gonna jump back in. Had a solid 6 episodes but life's too short.

I am working on a project and need a background show so I am revisiting Castle or at least the first 7 seasons and will skip the final. I have to say the leads did a good job hiding the fact that at some point, they really started to despise each other.

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Yes, it's a pity Dali doesn't focus more on the art. There could have been be enough drama found indeed.

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I am working on a project and need a background show ...

This is what Hallmark movies are for me. (City girl in the country? Gazebo? Widowed dad with super cute kids? Check. Check. Check.) My strongest memory from Castle was the time a victim had an unusual 4-fingered pattern around their neck. Why four fingers? Castle lifted his pinkies and guessed, "Killed him fancy?"

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Well we are getting into Hallmark season. I can only handle about two of their movies a year though.

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Castle! That brings me back to my high school days when I would come home after school and watch every crime procedurals on the air: Castle, Bones, The Mentalist, NCIS, etc. How I never got tired of the genre is the real mystery.

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Procedural mystery shows that can make you invest in the characters work well. Sure there is a mystery, but hey how is that romance with Castle and Beckett / Bones and Booth etc going? I remember some actor being interviewed and admitting it took him a while to realize how invested fans become even though the shows are procedural in nature.

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True. I was definitely tuning in each week for the ships. Booth and Bones, Castle and Beckett, Ziva and Tony, Jane and Lisbon....
Procedural shows somehow always nailed the slow burn will-they-won’t-they romance.

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I watched Castle to the end though they almost did us dirty for a spin off. Bones I dropped though they were together by the time I bailed. NCIS I still will watch but none of the spin offs. During lock down, I finally finished The Mentalist. I realized I'd somehow never finished the last season. Most of these shows probably lasted too long but fans are loyal.

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Hometown Cha-Cha-Cha🌊🦷(16/16): The final weekend was filled with lots of interesting thoughts about Doo-Sik and his past, but it all feels tainted to me right now. Only time will tell if I can change my mind about this, but I will always fondly remember the Beanie love I was surrounded with while watching!😘

Lovers of the Red Sky🖌️🦋👁️(10/16): I still have not watched beyond episode 10. Maybe I should delude myself there is a blue screen to look forward to and earn my bean anyway?🤔

Dal-ri and Gamjatang 🖼️🐖(10/16): Moo-Hak is a delight, Dali is a gem and I adore both of them individually and as a couple. It is a shame that most of the other characters seem to disagree and lose their appeal in the process. Except for our Won-Takie, he is perfect!😇

Bring It On Ghost💪👻(2/16): Because it is Halloween and someone keeps mentioning Dumbo Ears. Gotta prepare for the Inspector in a few weeks!😉 I came for the GhostNet idiots and the male lead, but the female lead is not working for me yet. Kwon Yul also needs a bumbling idiot role asap, this is his second villain role already!😲

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@turtuallysarcastic about BRING IT ON GHOST: Oh I just had to comment because I had a completely different reaction to that kdrama and wanted to share my view with you, just for the novelty of it. Up until Bring It On Ghost, I had considered Taecyeon to be less than mediocre when it comes to acting. But with this Kdrama, he suddenly came alive and became believable. I was really impressed with the change and credited it in part to his female costar, a much younger actress, but still a sunbae when it comes to acting experience. Taecyeon became more comfortable and less awkward in his role for this drama. They were just so playful together that it was a joy for me to watch. Looking back at Taecyeon's career so far, I see this kdrama as the turning point for him. Kim So-hyun has continued to leave her mark in films and dramas transitioning from child actress to adult actress and I look forward to a future role from her that will showcase her at her best.

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Thank you for sharing your view with me! I am new to Taec, but I kept my expectations low since I have heard about him through Beanies. Fortunately, his character is very likable from the start, so his acting talent does not really matter much to me. I know Kim So-Hyun is a good actress, but for now I find her character not as likable as Taec or her other roles for that matter. You mentioned playfulness between them, so me and Bong-Pal probably need some more episodes to warm up to her. I only watched 2 episodes, a lot still needs to happen.😉

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Oh my, I've just trashed Taecyeon on a earlier reply on this same thread. Now you're making me feel guilty for adding up to his bad rap 😂 Beanies, I really like Taec! He's not always consistent as an actor, but he's so charming that and I totally tolerate his less inspired moments - and he's getting better, right? Right?

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ha ha ha ha! There have been times when I also trashed Taecyeon. Taecyeon isn't really the best actor in S. Korea but he sure is better than he was when he first started out. And I guess that's what's important. Some actors seem like they were born actors (like Seo In Guk and Yu Ah-In for instance) but Taecyeon was never like that. He's more like, "If you try hard enough, eventually it'll work." And I believe that at this point in his career, he has some confidence and some passionate fans.

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Jirisan: 7.5 It was a dark and stormy night... on day 1. Day 2: The story felt quite unlike the terrain -- you know, flat.

The Veil: 7.5 The finale tried hard to be dramatic and emotion-y and meaningful -- a bit too hard in fact, nudging it a bit to the contrived and heavy handed side. And have I mentioned how important it is to have offline, geographically-dispersed backups? Part of the premise wouldn't work if such important records were backed up properly.

Yumi's Cells: 7.0 Kdramaland dating tips:
1: Girls who want attention and/or reassurance that the guy cares, should never wear a jacket.
2: Guys should always wear a jacket but also a sweater or something so they won't get cold without the jacket.
3: If the girl is the wrong size to wear the guy's jacket they are not the fated OTP.
Also, extra seasons? FIVE SEASONS?? The humans are boring, the cells' novelty is wearing off and the new cells-of-the-week are less funny now than the earlier ones. I don't want to know how stale it will get my season 5. I'll finish this season for the Bean and that's it.

Work Later, Drink Now: 7.5 EP 1 was demented, brilliant, and 😲. Ep 2 was boring.

One the Woman: 7.1 Day 12 - Repressed memories? Hypnosis? Really??? Day 13 - better.

King's Affection: 7.5

Lovers of the Red Sky: 6.0 Sigh. I didn't catch the famed Viki "exclusive" version of the finale. Guess it was a bit like that one episode of Big Issue that had Big Issues?

Dal-li and Gamjatang: 7.0 Into the everything-seems-hopeless phase, which I never like.

Hometown: 3.0 The motivations of baddies, cult members and even some not-so-baddies were either not explained well or not believable. I expected better from the cast.

Moebius: The Veil: 7.0 Veil prequel with Park Ha-sun - her consolation prize for getting killed off early in the main show?

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5 seasons of Yumi’s Cells!?! Has it really been confirmed? I was expecting 3 short seasons based on the spoilers I have seen about the Webtoon. 5 seasons seem a bit excessive for this story.

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Yeah, I haven't read the webtoon, but I'm spoiled, and I don't see how you could even get five seasons out of it.

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Someone said "5" on DB yesterday... I saw it on the internet so it must be true, right? :)

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Didn't the Hospital Playlist team intend on 3 seasons but the writer recently said they would leave it at 2? My guess is Yumi would be the same.

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Jirisan (1-2): I dont know what I was expecting, but definitely not this. The series started slow and I was so bored that I started and stopped it so many times. The last 10 min of ep 1 interested me a little bit only to get burned out by the end of ep 2. Not to mention the long episodes. I might give it a week more and most probably switch to reading the dramabean recaps afterwards.

Lovers of the red sky (15-16): It was a fun ride. It was a decent historical drama with some pretty shots. I felt somewhere the writers lose their control over the story and changed the rules as per their wish. The ending was a bit rushed and underwhelming, especially the sealing ceremony. On comparing it with sealing ceremony in first episode, it felt a little less effective. May be because of the absence of a figure for the demon. Like in ep1 they showed the demon as a black figure with red eyes and when it comes to ep 16 it just black smoke. That said I am happy that they atleast managed to wrap almost all the loose ends (although at the cost of changing so many rules). Shamshin did a great sacrifice and I was so sad to see her go. I almost let out a frustrated groan when the screen froze at the battle scene. If we take into consideration Scholar Ha 's interpretation of the Prince's stars, I guess we are to believe that Yul won the battle. And What a waste of talent for Kwak Si Yang !!! His character felt so underutilized.
Even with all my complaints, the show is still worth watching. For the beautiful leads and the even beautiful blossoms !!!!

Yumi's cells (7-12): I am yet to watch the final episodes but accidentally saw the spoiler regarding how its gonna end. I already sensed the cracks due to miscommunication in ep 11 & 12. Will reserve my final thoughts after watching the last episodes.

Would you like a cup of coffee (1): Its okay. I have not watched any Ong seong wu dramas other than "More than friends". His character pissed me off in it and I eventually dropped when I couldn't take it anymore. The premises around this drama is interesting. So far nothing special about ONW's acting and I am more interested in the story arc of the ajusshi.

Reflection of you (5-6): Am I the only one getting irritated with Hee Joo? I get why Hae Won wants to take revenge. Imagine cooking for your partner who you think is horrible in cooking and your partner contradicts it saying g he cooked while you were busy taking classes and then you realize the whole scenario never happened. How hurt you will be ? The two people she trusted more than anything else in the world cheated on her. So I kind of get where she comes from. I also feel bad for her. In the midst of taking revenge she is destroying herself and how much hurt she will be if Woo Jae regains memory and stand with Hee Joo? But Hee Joo's behavior is confusing me. She acts so righteous and mighty for someone who wronged that very person who adored and respected her. I mean even when she...

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I mean even when she realized that her truth is out, she feigned ignorance. I had the same question Hae won has ..Why can't she come clean about it?. And does she even feel a tinge of guilt for what she did? Or may be there is more story regarding their past than what's shown to us so far? I doubt if my feeling for this character would ever change unless there is really some big twist that made enough sense to justify her actions.

King's affection (5-6): Ro woon's acting is not working for me. He was fine with the comic elements but the emotional scenes were a bit letdown. So hyun knew Dam yi's identity as a woman but did he really not hear about the brother part??

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Ashes of love (14-15): So Ji Mi's secret is out and Run yu has started his manipulations. I can see the beginning of competition between brothers for JM. As much as I am pissed off with RY's lies, I am also disappointed that XF asked for a secret meeting with JM even after knowing she is engaged to his brother. The flower deity's story was so heartbreaking. She really went theough a lot.

Saimdang, memoir of colours (1-2): It became available in Netflix in my region. I have heard not so good reviews about it but wanted to try it out since I remember how its trailers intrigued me back when it was released. It's my first Lee young ae drama and she is okay so far. It might be because my expectations were really low, that I actually liked how the story has started. I will stick on to this even if the story goes downhill afterwards if only to see Prof Min getting what he deserves.

Age of youth S2 (5-14): There are very rare instances where a S2 solar up to the level of a hit S1. I have my sets of frustrations with this season but I loved how the series kept growth of each housemate realistic. I didnot like the portrayal of Eun Jae in this season esp when the actress tend to move her eyes unnecessarily most of the time. As much as I am sad to see he love arc with the sunbae ending, it taught them so many things.Eun was a cute addition and her story arc was perfectly portrayed.

Good manager (2): Back to NMG after a break. I so badly needed this version of NMG. I mean how can a 40+ actor be this cute. The last scene of episode was hilarious. He got hit by a car and yet you ran to the unni first?? 😆

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The painting in Saimdang will always stay with me. I hope you enjoy it. I was hoping for a repeat of that in Red Sky, but there wasn't enough to meet my expectations.

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Love Good Manager so much. Ace soundtrack and general fun hijinks. Favourite Namkoong Min drama. No one does crazy so well!

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Hae won's revenge seems justifiable, but still I don't sympathise with her. She knows Woo Jae was never in love with her, but still she keeps hanging onto him. Thats actually "pitiable" just like Hui Ju mentioned.

And you are not the only one frustrated with Hui Ju, in fact none of the characters are likeable, even the kids, Lisa and Ho Su are rude and annoying.

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Dali and Gamjatang: I loved the way the most recent episodes explored the messiness of "family", and the complications of both biological and chosen connections. Also, every time I think the show is going to spiral into trope-world it pulls back, a trend that I hope will continue for the final four episodes. I do hope we dodge noble idiocy and that Dali takes charge of things to put the loathsome Tae Jin in his place instead of just getting literally and figuratively knocked around by everyone.

The Crowned Clown: I really enjoyed how this show used its "what if?" premise to explore how an outsider might up-end insider assumptions about power, norms and privilege. While the ending veered a bit too far into wish fulfillment for my taste, I appreciated its nuanced look at how one might balance ideals and efficacy, especially as embodied in the character of Royal Secretary Lee.

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1. Darli and Gamjatang: The show is just lovely and suits my mood right now. There is something irresistible about this show that makes me like it very much despite some OTT characters (sighs and side-eyeing the gallery staff, Ms. Na, Assemblyman An, and so many others). The last ep made me love our loud ML a lot more: the way he explained how he tried not to hate his own father was powerful I couldn't take my eyes off of him. I would have loved the FL to be much more independent and sassy, but looking at how often doom is waiting on her doorsteps every single episode the fact that she hasn't gone all crazy is satisfactory enough. And can someone put Tae-jin in a trash can please? Oh.. don't forget he's a non-recyclable waste. 😳

Finished: Brave, Moana, and Mary Poppins Returns. Seems like October is a Disney month for me.

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The entire staff at the art gallery are just ugh. The guy with the beret less so.

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Merida is great!

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A very cool princess indeed. 😎
I love that the story revolves around her and he smother. It’s such a beautiful theme. The Mother bear is funny.

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I really loved Brave and Moana!

I found Mary Poppins Returns so long... I really prefered the first movie. Saving Mr. Banks was a great movie too.

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I haven’t watched the first movie! Perhaps I should watch it? Do they have the same cast in the first movie?

I sometimes hoped that the actress who portrayed Mary Poppins in the second movie had stronger screen presence. I think the movie would be more captivating that way.

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You didnt't watch Mary Poppins with the great Julie Andrews?

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My mind is blown, too! Next M is gonna say she hasn't seen The Sound of Music!

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Disney month sounds fun! I love Merida, she’s so underappreciated.

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She is so cool. She tried to get out of the wedding! And how cool it is to be able to ride a horse and shoot the arrows that precisely!

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Dalli and Gamjatang
It's romcom of the year for me. I think one of the reason is because I can relate to Dalli so much. It seems overly dramatic that everything looks bleak for her, nothing goes right, the world feels like moving against her, but believe me, it can happen in real life.
And Moohak...can I fall in love with him too?

Jirisan
As much as I love Joo Jihoon and its drama writer, I don't think I will watch this. I just feel that each element of the show doesn't connect with each other.
The theme, cinematography, OST, feel like a bunch of mismatch for me. So sad, because I really want to like it.

3 Meals A Day: Doctors
Kyungho - Mido noona still the highlight for me. He adores her so much.

2 days 1 night
The only Kim Seonho's drama that I watched is 10 episodes of HomeCha. But I like him a lot in 2D1N. I feel so bad for the show that something terrible always happens with its cast(s).
I'm not defending Seonho but everything about his so called scandal is just too shady for me.

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Angel's Last Mission : I'm looking for a light watch, and I read Shin Hye Sun was great. I'm yet to watch Mr Queen because many reviews are saying while it's funny, the ending was sad. So I watch Angel's Last Mission instead.

I thought I'd drop it by episode 9-10 like most romcoms, but I'm surprised that I'm able to keep on watching this drama. From the first few episodes, Shin Hye Sun made me cried buckets.

I also love the bromance scenes between Kim Dan & Angel Hu, Angel Hu with Director Kang Woo.

I love that the antagonists in this story is not that tense. They were bad but the storyline makes it bearable for me who wants something light with just a bit of villain.

Dal Li : Love both episodes except the part where Dal Li's uncle nag at her (episode 11) and Chak Hee & Moo Hak met (episode 12)

I was heartbroken learning Moo Hak's father cheated on his mother while she was sick. I thought he was a good father & husband.. ㅠㅠ

I was jaw-dropped when we finally know what Tae Jin said to Dal Li in the rain, dumping her. That was so heartbreaking. Do you truly love her or do you just love her social status?

I can feel Dal Li's big relief when Moo Hak said that being adopted is no big deal. Moo Hak, you're so sweet!

Sell Your Haunted House : I think we're on episode 7 or 8, finally we are taking a peek at the bigger picture (I think) It's the faceless man. Anyhow I enjoy this show because everytime the duo do exorcism, I learnt something. It's like Hotel Del Luna, but only partially Hotel Del Luna.

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Anything with Shin Hye Sun I’ve loved so far! ♥️ I enjoyed Angel’s Last Mission and hope you will, too!

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Shin Hye-sun is one of my two favorite actresses for a reason. ANGEL'S LAST MISSION is a very good example of why I truly love Shin Hye-sun: The script was deeply flawed, almost impossible in its contradictions because the writer could never decide whether to present a Buddhist or a Christian world view. Yet Shin Hye-sun took this mess and made one of my favorite shows out of it- including pulling a good performance out of M. This requires the true skill of someone who is truly talented and also dedicated to mastering her craft.

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Actually resorted to an index card to keep track of when to watch and on what legal site. Happy to see that Inspector Koo appeared on Netplix so I've crossed it off the VIKI side of the card. Also have to factor in the relative speed of subtitles and delay times. No complaints 'cause this beats the late summer drought for sure!

Dali & the Cocky Prince remains the show I look forward to the most, We are entering vale of despond episodes that we all anticipate. As long as our OTP keep communicating, it will nudge romcoms forward on the path to modernity.

King's Affection is beautiful and so is PEB . She is trying very hard to pass as a dude but that path is impossible. If a visiting dignitary's daughter falls for her I will seriously reconsider my commitment to all 20 eps.
Enjoying a rewatch of Hot Stove League with hubby. NGM is so very good that I feel bad about dropping his last two dramas.

Jirisan is off to a shaky-cam start. I don't dare FF because I might miss a glimpse of actual rocks. When the ML summited the mountain, my geology brain whispered, "Ooo, nice metamorphics." Wish the subs would no longer use "in the mountain" for "on the mountain". Unless humans are miners, we will always just be on the surface. Everyone needs re-usable water bottles, just sayin.

For years I've been wondering about the surfeit of serial killers in nearly every Kdrama genre. After 2 episodes of The Raincoat Killer on Netplix, I understand why. Just like the Golden State Killer, he got away with multiple murders because male-dominated police departments are adverse to communicating and sharing information. The big break in the Seoul murder spree came from an ex-cop who owned an illegal brothel. Think about that. Had to pause in my watching but at only 3 tightly constructed episodes, I'll finish this doc. Do I get a bean?

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Raincoat Killer is making me match up with films such as Chaser and making me realise how close film and reality are. There is a moment in episode 2 where the forensic scientist describes what he did to the disembodied heads that made me stop watching... Do you remember the bathroom in The Chaser? *covers mouth and tries not to throw up* I'll give you a bean, if you give me one. I'm going back to it though.

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You can have one of my beans since I couldn't finish The Chaser. Did finish the 3rd ep of Raincoat and the grandstanding chief was a douche to the end. The female detective, who spoke to the victims as she spent hours fingerprinting their bodies, is my new hero. How about a drama based on her?

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I'll take it. I'll be getting more into Raincoat today. Daytime watching, an absolute necessity. The forensic expert was amazing. There really should be a drama based on her. It would make Silent Witness look vanilla.

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Oh, and all the time I was watching them chief, thoughts were running through my head. "I wonder if these guys are on the level..." Watched too many dramas, I guess. But I would love to find Memories of a Murder just to see what incompetence was

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Memories of a Murder was just re-released,...maybe Hulu?

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Finished LOST, what a beautiful drama this was, THE VEIL, I did not care about the plot, only the thriller aspect and Mr. Nam, I hope he looses a few muscles, soon so that he can walk normally again, and LOVERS OF THE RED SKY, again, did not care much about the plot, but liked Ahn Hyo Seop in Wang Ma make up.

Really liked DA-LI up to now, but I am dreading the next two episodes. Such a good scene, when Da-li feels ashamed about being adopted and the way Mo-hak is brushing aside her worries. He is a keeper!

Wong not so much, he and YUMI are not the best of communicators and the break up is there. It could have been avoided with a little bit more understanding and less selfishness on both sides, but this is what makes the drama such a slice of real life. Rarely do I think that a second season will be good, but I cannot wait for it here.

Still enjoying ONE THE WOMAN. Are they twins? When will Kang Mi-na reveal herself?

Disappointed with the KING'S AFFECTION. I can hardly believe it is from the same director of Another Miss Oh and Graceful Friends. The plot is good, the execution not, boring and full of tropes (badly acted). Hopefully it gets better, it has 20 episodes!

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I'm glad you said that about him walking normally again. I've been wondering...

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Same same! I preferred his usual physique - being that buff looks super uncomfortable for him…

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Jirisan - reserving judgment. I am looking forward to the thrills and finding out what the grand mystery is all about. The CGI mis-effects I can handle, as long as they’re not worse than what they showed on episode 1. Lol those rocks - I can’t forget them.

Love Scenery (Cdrama) - down to the last 2 episodes! I’m probably done with e-sports and school related Chinese dramas for a while now. I pretty much watched it for Lin Yi and this was still somehow better than the last super-frustrating Cdrama I watched.

Can’t decide if I should binge Yumi’s Cells (I’m not a Kim Go-eun fan, sorry) or go back to Beyond Evil or Mouse, which I haven’t seen yet. 🤔

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Beyond Evil is more plausible than Mouse (imo). I won't use the word enjoyable for either, except there are some scene chomping acting duels in Beyond.

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Watch Yumi's Cells! I think you'll be converted to a KGE fan. She's amazing in that role and I can't imagine anyone else playing Kim Yumi.

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Hmm, I’ve heard that too, which is what’s making me really think about giving it a bit of my time.

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Kim Go Eun won me back with her portrayal of Kim Yumi. And I agree too - I cannot see anyone else playing this character as perfectly as KGE!

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Mouse is really good but does have an element of science fiction which can put some people off if they are expecting a straight up crime drama.

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I would say it’s a bit more makjang than science fiction. Lee Seunggi was great. A good watch despite the crazy plot and some gruesome scenes.

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Uhoh. I’m not good with anything gruesome. How gruesome is gruesome for you? Lol.

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Gruesome is very subjective but I would say Mouse has a few brutal and disturbing scenes, but nothing too graphic since it still aired on tv. Watch the first episode and you'll get a sense of its gruesomeness for yourself. If you are a fan of dark crime thrillers, it shouldn't bother you too much (maybe a wince here and there).

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Yumi's Cells, please give it a chance! Animation is a bit weird at first, and drama tricks you into thinking it's the same old romcom plot, but it's not

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HOMETOWN Cha-Cha-Cha.....Binged on this over the week. At first I loved the small town characters, the OST, the great cast and especially the romantic leads. Much of it was excellent. But then they filled out the plot with chatter that lead nowhere. Couldn't Netflix afford better? Then there was the competent, strong female professional who turns into a 5-year-old soon as she falls in love. Must be one of the biggest reversals in Kdrama history. As for the currently exiled Kim Seon Ho, he may or may not be a jerk in his personal life, but sure is a talented actor, and I personally hope he gets his career back on track soon.

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I've never had the feeling that Netflix has anything to do with the writing. They are somewhat known for not messing around with the creatives.

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Didn’t know that, thanks.

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Lost: going to miss this drama. Not everything was amazing but it left me with a feeling of optimism and hope.

Dali and the Cocky Prince: last week's slap-than-kiss left me scrunchie faced so it was a good time to pause to wait out and see if the ending will land.

My Sweet Dear: hitting all the tropes and just shy of being too cute. After watching some really awful BL this year, it makes me relieved.

Jirisan: no puppies were harmed in Episode 1 so we continue.

Live Your Life: I liked the first 18 episodes and perhaps its because the ML and FL are still at odds with each other. Enemies to lovers for the win. But alas, it seems I've hit the fastforwardable episodes.

Going to check out Inspector Koo and Crime Puzzle.

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Like your values. 🐶 🐶 🐶

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:)

(I may have been a little oversensitive about potential harm coming to the search dogs since Search Ep1 had done really poorly in this respect.)

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Oh, I haven't seen that yet, so I missed the connection, but as a general principle that oversensitivity is laudable imo. 😉

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Hometown (Ep 11&12) - So we get some answers about who the ghostly figure is and who is Jae-young's actual father is. I roughly get that Guru is able to control / hypnotized those people who have great regrets in their lives I think but whether or not he have paranormal gifts is really a question mark. I get that he's out for revenge but his fancy cult is meaningless in the end. Uhm Tae-gu really aced in these type of creepy roles and Han Ye-ri is good too but I felt that her role really has no impact to the whole story.

Jirisan (Ep 1&2) - A very good start to this drama story wise. I liked the the double JJH interactions here. I know that this show will be laden with an abundance of CGI as I don't really expect them to film 100% at the actual site so I can close one eye :P on certain background scenes but there are those that is quite glaring like the camera shake effect....I'm like this is high mountain not the high sea so what's with the shake angle here....Also, Yi-gang hardly breaking a sweat on every climb is highly suspicious hahaha....

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My wife and I loved LOVERS OF THE RED SKY to the very end. And I was right in my guess that the old man in the stone prison was not a god but a Taoist Master (and our ML’s grandfather at that). The Goblin Hwacha was not a source of madness as everyone had assumed but simply wanted great paintings whose essence he could absorb on his path to becoming The God of Painting- and, as it turns out was actually part of the solution rather than a problem.

DALI AND GAMJATANG is our favorite show right now. There have been some unusual twists to the storytelling, although not all have come as a surprise to me: I knew that Dal’s ex-fiancé was a bad seed from day one, and had suspected that he was the real mastermind behind The Evil Land Development Scheme- and I was right.

My wife is currently binge-watching THE FLAME’S DAUGHTER. Chinese costume dramas can be so very addictive.

She also loves THE KINGS AFFECTION- and Park Eun-bin continues o shine. We are both looking forward to THE RED SLEEVE CUFF.

I have now seen the first two episodes of WOULD YOU LIKE A CUP OF COFFEE? So far\ it is OK but it has not really grabbed me the way I thought that it would. We are still basically in the setup mode at this point.

The new weekend family drama YOUNG LADY AND GENTLEMAN has seen our lovely young lady past her first bump in the road. There were some fun moments last week. This weekender is a vast improvement over the one which ran before.

We continue to take in episodes of the lighter C-dramas ACCIDENTALLY IN LOVE as well as GO INTO LOVE. And this week we were even able to get back to watching HIKARU NO GO before we forgot where we were in that show. If you have not seen it I do recommend it.

I decided to check out a couple of J-dramas as well. I am now through the first six episodes of CAN’T RUN AWAY FROM LOVE and the first six episodes of YOU, ME AND BACH. I am enjoying both of them. But I would note here that J-dramas have a much different feel than K-dramas or C-dramas- a different taste as it were. I do not mean that as a warning but rather as an introduction-be prepared for something a little bit different if you try these shows out. But they can be very good- one of my son’s very favorite shows is the J-drama MIDNIGHT DINER (which can be found on Netflix) which is a truly outstanding show that has one of the most elegantly simple theme songs that I have ever heard- what Erik Sati might have written if he was doing folk music

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I liked The Flame's Daughter. It wasn't perfect but I think the story held pretty well and I recall it having some of the best action scenes for this type show. The actress with the whip! She did great.

I've only seen the Korean version of Midnight Diner. It was so good and I should check out the Japanese version as well. They tend to do slice of life very well.

I will keep looking at your views on Young Lady and Gentleman. I have trust issues with the length of the weekend dramas as in the stories getting boring or just going off the rails but I like the actor so maybe...

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I enjoy a good weekender but it does take a different approach- you have to be willing to invest enough time to get a real sense of where it is but you also have to be willing to bail out when it becomes obvious that it is not up to par. If I had been evaluating YOUNG LADY AND GENTLEMEN based upon the first two episodes then I would have had a very false picture of the show. I bailed on the previous REVOLUTIONAY SISTERS after four weeks- and that was sufficient. The really good ones are great (think MY FATHER IS STRANGE or ONCE AGAIN) but some will simply miss the mark. But the good ones are very worth while so I always check them out.

Daily Dramas are even tougher but sometimes really good. The recent BE MY DREAM FAMILY was very good.

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Is You, Me and Bach about the three people meeting at the violin course for beginners? I liked that one a lot, I even brought my violin from my hometown at that time and played it... for about 2 months before Real Life took over, sadly. Though I'm determined that one day I start again!

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Yes, YOU, ME AND BACH is that one.

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I’m also watching CAN’T RUN AWAY FROM LOVE - the heroine is painfully naive to the point of stupid at times (seriously, who doesn’t double check the interview time) but I’m still finding it very watchable. I had to make myself slow down so I don’t get a huge gap before the last episodes are available.

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Hometown... so sad this was totally ignored.
I loved it though... It reminded me of Twin Peaks somehow. I didn't care if I don't understand what's going on.
My weekends will be super busy.
Inspector Koo (I watched Ep.1, it looks promising), Jirisan (I might drop it soon), Chimera, Red Sleeves and Happiness... Oh my!

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Lost (Human Disqualification) - I think this drama might end up being this year's favorite for me. Even with the sad, heavy tone, I loved everything about it. This is in no small part due to the acting of the main leads. They were fantastic. Ryu Joon-yeol, don't stay away from dramaland too long! Come back soon!

Reflection of You - I think our amnesia guy actually remembers a thing or two. ..... And how horrid is the lawyer, son-in-law to his doctor wife?!?! He's absolutely awful towards her!

One The Woman - No idea why I'm still watching. But I am.

Jirisan - For episode 1, I wished the camera would have stay focused on the panoramic views for more than 2 seconds rather than zipping through all of them at dizzying speed. I like the cast, but I don't know if it's going to be enough here. I don't know if it's the episode lengths or what, but those first two episodes were a bit of a chore to get through, which can't be a good sign. I'll watch another episode or two and then decide whether to continue with it or not.

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Wait, Ryu Joon-yeol? Love him. This will be my next drama then. I’ve never quite forgiven Park Bo-gum for taking Hieri away from RJY in Reply 1988 and have been wanting vindication for him ever since

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Ryu Joon-yeol - come back with long hair! ;)

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The King's Affection Is Must Watch

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Lovers of the Red Sky - The last two episodes wrapped up the story as best it could but I felt it could've been better. Despite all that I enjoyed watching this show and it ended well for our OTP. As it should be before *fate* mucked it all up. I just wish the pacing and execution was better. I wanted the mythology to make sense. But if I will rewatch this, maybe just the earlier episodes of the OTP.

The King's Affection - I am casually watching The King's Affection since I needed my sageuk fix once Red Sky ended. It did take a lot of suspension of disbelief to think that Eunbin can pass off as the flowerboy CP (maybe if they got a taller actress) I try to ignore that as much as possible to enjoy the story.  Despite all that, I have serious SLS on this one. I would love to see more of Hyungnim with CP.

Dali and The Cocky Prince - I am expecting the Show will twist the noble idiocy next week. Dali and MooHak must have a plan right?!? I'd hate to see them play into the hands of the douchebag TaeJin. I really feel bad for what TJ and co are doing to Dali. I do want him and his conspirators to fall from grace hard.

The Veil - It ended but I feel nothing for the drama. I lost interest in it. I wish NGM will choose a different genre next. I didnt enjoy this and Awaken like I did Doctor Prisoner.

One the Woman- this show is being carried by Honey Lee. I have no qualms but I am getting impatient with the takedown of Sung Hye and Hanju. I suspect that KMN is back but lurking in the background.

Varieties I am enjoying/enjoyed:
Street Woman Fighter, House on Wheels S3, 3MAD: Doctors, We Don't Bite

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Oh I started Haechi. I am on episode 2. So far I am enjoying Jung Ilwoo's lowly prince. The court politics is okay so far but I hate Prince Mil Poong. It was hard to shake off sweet Yulje fellow JaeHak at first but he is doing a great job here making me hate him.

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During HP’s run I noted that the folks who only new Jung Moon-sung as the sweet Jae-hak had no idea how nasty he could get in character. If you are only on episode 2 buckle your seatbelts as far as Prince Mil Poong goes.
As a bonus in HAECHI you also get to see the comic ability of Kwon Yul playing Bak Mun-su. Contrast that to the KY you are getting in D&G.

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I adore KY comedic character here. I am looking forward to seeing more of him in Haechi than in Dali.
I expect Prince MP to get more nasty. He is a lunatic and does not deserve to be King.

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Well said.

Also I meant earlier to point out earlier that for his portrayal of Prince Mil Poong actor Jung Moon-sung received the award for “Best Male Character” at the 2019 SBS Drama Awards. (Well deserved, even though he played as you say “a lunatic”.)

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On Dali- the writers have managed to avoid some of the more usual plot twists so there may not be a noble separation (what would be its point?) . As for TJ & Company- do not forget the plot point of Dali having a 'brother' who is a detective.

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You are right. The show has avoided the usual plot twist. The preview on the next episode suggest otherwise so hopefully its just to make the audience worry. But only end up messing with TJ's nefarious plans.

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I forgot to add Jirisan. I will comment more after this week's episode once the story gets fleshed out more. Jirisan is beautiful and would love to see it once everything gets better.

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I'm totally hooked on D&G, the lead couple are absolutely adorable, the villain as nasty as they come, and all the side characters are terrific. I'm completely in love with the policeman buddy, and I love our hero even more, he was so bland in Brahms but has great depths in this one. His conversation with his father had me in tears even when it was in KOREAN !!!!! (HOW SAD IS THAT???? Watching each episode first in Korean because I can't wait for the English subs!) but the acting throughout is marvellous. The story is really well-written and I am so sad there are only 4 more episodes. And I think the art exhibits are absolutely hilarious, very gently poking fun at modern art with the garbage collection, but also there are some interesting pieces spread around. There is so much content in each of the episodes they are well worth watching twice.

My favourites up to now have been CLOY, Run On, Start Up, Its OK. I thought Red Sky was SO disappointing - court politics seem to be identical in every historical drama, and I despise anybody or anything which disappears a writhing cloud of black smoke, but I'm enjoying TKA because it does have a lot of humour in it.

More like this please!

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I am with you on D&G. Besides this, the DR. ROMANTICs and BRAHMS have been my only Kim Min-jae dramas and for me this is his best performance. In both episodes 11&12 Moo-hak (KMJ) has delivered two beautiful monologues (if you will). At the end of episode 11 it was to console Dali and in episode 12 it was to confront his father. There are two writers listed for D&G. Whoever (maybe both) is writing Moo-hak’s dialogue is giving him some great lines and KMJ is delivering perfectly.

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@daebakgrits Mr Sunshine!!! My first. It made me want to know about the history and I was hooked. Once my rmagination was captured by the Righteous Army I was off and racing. Nokdu Flower all made sense when I discovered it. I hope you don't cry too much, but it's impossible not to.

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D&G - am still watching and enjoying, but it isn’t the drama I want it to be. I don’t know if the pacing is off, or what, but I’d like to see more of Won Tak and Moo Hak and Dali hijinks and less Evil Real Estate Scheming In The Dark. Also, if Dali was adopted as a grown child not a baby (and has no mother figure, and her father is well known) surely it would have been well known she was adopted and come as a shock to no one?

INFAMOUS CHIL SISTERS - I’m skip watching this as I was initially just watching Baby Lee Seung Gi’s storyline but I’m being sucked into watching more. It’s very old but it’s fun. I am enjoying the Because You’re My Woman jokes, so many!

ONE THE WOMAN and HOMETOWN CHA are both kind of on pause for now.

I have been watching some Jdramas lately and I have to thank @isthatacorner for gushing over AN INCURABLE CASE OF LOVE, because it is great. If you don’t like Playful Kiss/It Started With A Kiss I imagine you wouldn’t like it, but if you do then it is very similar vibes. I liked the heroine because she was cheerful and goofy but also competent at her job.

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Oh, I liked Koi wa Tsuzuku, especially whenever the heroine wore the armour 😄

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Actually in at least the first couple of episodes of an INCURABLE CASE OF LOVE our our female lead struggles a bit professionally - and I could not help but remember Kotoko's very similar struggle in MISCHEVIOUS KISS, LOVE IN TOKYO which is the best Japanese version of that story (although I love Ariel Lin's performance in IT STARTED WITH A KISS and Jung So-min absolutely carried the show in PLAYFUL KISS).

You are right that there are some similar vibes in AN INCURABLE CASE OF LOVE although it is a different story rather than another retelling of a classic.

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She does struggle a bit professionally but it’s kind of a normal amount for a new starter, in my view. (I haven’t seen all of Love In Tokyo - Playful Kiss is my go to version).

It’s definitely not the same story but I think it hits a lot of the same beats.

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I am suffering mightily from just having finished The Smile Has Left Your Eyes. I can't believe it was wound up that way and I have nothing coherent to say about it yet. Thanks to @sicarius I've been able to detox by reading her scathing review. I'm not ready to join the criticism yet, but I'm walking wounded at the moment.

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If you're interested I also wrote a post on why I thought this show was such a dud

http://invisibledragon.home.blog/2021/08/06/a-hundred-million-stars-falling-from-the-sky/

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Many thanks. Will read as therapy.

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I've read your post and thank you - now it makes complete sense. Yes, of course, that's what is missing. That is what makes sense of the "brother" and his insane rage. Everything in the drama leads us to incest, but instead it becomes a "fake out". Now I am prepared to say that it was a wrong choice as a narrative for Korean drama. As a Japanese drama, based on the book, I can see it embracing death at the end, especially if it is played along the lines of a great tragedy. But for me at least, the trajectory of this story just does not mesh with Korean cultural values, so they pulled their punches and ended up with something that does not make sense. If they had had the courage to follow through, with this cast, it would have been a truly shocking and brilliant work. But I seriously doubt that would have been possible. This is one story that simply does not translate. Loved the actors, all three leads are a delight. They were as convincing as they could be, and yet the roles they were given were inherently misleading.

This is a beautifully written and insightful review. Thanks to you and @sicarus for your sharp minds and great writing. I am repaired. btw @sicarus, for me, this drama may be an example of a weird version of reality (a sort of demonic secondary belief - a dark and smoky unicorn that drew me in and wouldn't let me go). While, as you argue, the characters are not coherent, the acting was so good that there is a mismatch between that and the coherence of their characters so that I was caught up in something like a double bind - dumbstruck in a dysfunctional world with no way out.

Both of you wrote your way out of it. Well done.

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Thank you for this @LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi. It was beautifully written and did my heart good to read the praise of the exceptional actor, Seo In Guk

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Dali: This is still the drama I look forward to the most, but why? Why do they have to beat her down like that in all ways? I have an idea that Dali is going to be two steps a head, but that doesn't erase the disappointment. *sigh*
It probably doesn't help that these characters played by these actors are so charming and likable that I dont just want to root for them to overcome, I want to see them never brought down. If they had to have all these bad guys and intrigue (which they didn't) I wish they'd have just kept it a fun romp instead of whatever these last two eps were.
Still, unless they pull some Do So La type stuff at the end this will be one I'm still happy to have spent my time with.

Yumi's Cells: This show is definitely creative and there is an empathy and a keen eye in how it views people. It often has me reviewing how I've reacted in situations and such. Definitely wish Yumi had more friends and we'd got to see more of her family who were delightful. I'd started to think she had no family. I wish we'd got a peek into Woong's head on the last scene. Overall, I really enjoyed this and will watch season two, but I hate having to wait for that. K dramas have spoiled me with their more typical one season arcs. With HP season one at least ended in a way that felt like it could just stand on its own, but Yumi feels much more like I'm used to with western shows.

Secret Love: Just two eps in. It's been a while since I've watched an older show and it is jarring the difference in budgets, lol. Also none of the men are wearing makeup, well at least not full coverage so they have flawless skin. I'm not sure I have a handle on the tone of this show yet. It goes from over the top drama to the next scene starting with music that usually signals comedy. I've always been curious about this one and it was a throwback ep on Dramas with a Side of Kimchi. I'm very open to the power of suggestion apparently, plus it seems like a good watch for a rainy fall week.

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Secret Love is stuffed to the gills with highly questionable behaviour and relationships - which, I have to confess, makes it horrifically entertaining. Half the time poor Ji Sung looks like he wants the ground to swallow him up. But Bae Soo-bin and Lee Da-hee play it to the hilt, and Hwang Jung-eum, of all people, shows that less is more when it comes to suffering convincingly. I can't stand her screeching and mugging in Kill Me Heal Me, but in Secret Love she somehow manages to convey a deep well of pain under her mild, smiling manner.

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Dali is just so unrelentingly depressing. Its the polar opposite of the series I was expecting.

'One the Woman' is an oldschool throwback uncomplicated Kdrama and that's it chief appeal. I even prefer the lack of 'romantic' chemistry between the two leads. They're too old to be mooning over each other like teenagers, anyway.

'My Name' is 'Stranger' meets 'The Raid: Redemption'. Netflix doesn't do 'K-dramas' so much as extended Korean films broken into segments. They're different beasts than broadcast aired TV fare.

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Dali, Yumi, the lead whose name I ironically can't remember in 'My Name', and multiple others. There's a BIG trend this year in short short hair. Even IU was recorded ruminating on whether to get a bob cut.

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Lol, at the less is more for One the Woman. I'm up to Ep 10, and its ok. The rest of the cast is acting like they're in a serious drama, whereas Lee Honey is having fun/chewing scenery. So to see this end up with 17.8% ratings nationwide was surprising, like 12-14% I get, but almost 20%?! Its not as OTT/campy in a good way given the premise, but I find myself kinda feeling like something's missing. I wish it had more pep/bite to it, like the 1st two episodes were campy. But then the middle kinda like serious/boring chaebol stuff, and then boom Lee Honey's one woman comedy show. If anyone other than Lee Honey was leading, this wouldn't have succeeded this much. Also, I wish they utilized the other characters more/given them more screen time like the 2nd puppy ML could've worked more w/ Lee Honey on cases while she was undercover. Had they done other cases too, and then at night turn into Wonder Woman, that would've been dope. Like this should've followed Chuck's route of mixing comedy/action together, but thus far its only Lee Honey whose providing the comedy.

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