Flower of Evil: Episode 16 (Final)
by TeriYaki
After another brush with death, our anti-hero suffers an unexpected complication that threatens to undo all of the emotional progress that he’s made. As he struggles to make sense of his situation, his wife turns out to be the last person who can help him. This final test will prove just how deep his love is for his wife and daughter who want nothing more than for him to find peace and happiness.
EPISODE 16 RECAP
In the final opening flashback, Hyun-soo and Ji-won took a short break during their pre-wedding photo shoot. Hyun-soo sensed something was bothering her and Ji-won admitted to her fear that Hyun-soo would regret getting married without his parents in attendance. Hyun-soo assured Ji-won that she was the only one who mattered to him and when the photo session resumed, their wedding bands were in plain view.
In the present, Ji-won sits across from a man and reminds him, “It’s been over four months already.” A flashback to Hyun-soo’s shooting shows that Hee-sung was downed by Ho-joon’s bullet, allowing Jae-sub to safely run to Ji-won’s side. While Woo-chul lowered the gun in Ho-joon’s trembling hands, the mortally wounded Hee-sung stared up at the sky.
After an ambulance sped Hyun-soo to the hospital, a doctor met with Ji-won to explain that the bullet that grazed Hyun-soo’s head caused a skull fracture and a concussion. He predicted that Hyun-soo should wake up in day or so.
In Hyun-soo’s hospital room, Ji-won slipped his wedding ring back onto his finger. Jae-sub walked in with the news that reporters were gathering outside and warned Ji-won about the inevitable fallout. Ji-won took Hyun-soo’s hand and promised, “Together, we’ll get through everything.” In voiceover, Ji-won admits, “At that moment, I had no idea that I’d never see him again.”
Back in the present, Ji-won suggests to the fully healed Hyun-soo, “Hee-sung, we can take our time and get to know each other again.” Hyun-soo points out that she called him by the wrong name and reminds her what it was like when he woke up after a month.
In another flashback, Hyun-soo was still unconscious while memories of his life with Ji-won rewound all the way back to their first kiss. When Hyun-soo remembered being hit by Hee-sung’s car, his eyes flew open. In voiceover, Hyun-soo explains that when he woke up in the hospital, he thought it was immediately after the car accident and that it was 2005.
Hyun-soo stumbled out to the hallway where Ji-won had been on the phone and she smiled in relief until he brushed past her. Ji-won called out, “Jagi-yah,” but Hyun-soo saw the police ID around her neck and ran. In the lobby, Hyun-soo was surrounded by reporters and he narrates, “Not only did I not remember the past 15 years of my life…But I had also become really famous.”
Chief Yoon holds a press conference to announce that an investigation proved that Ji-won knew nothing about her husband’s false identity. In the Baek’s backyard, a forensics team digs up the silver box containing the missing fingernails of the murder victims with Woo-chul, Ho-joon and Jae-sub on the scene. Chief Yoon commends Hyun-soo for helping to solve the serial murder case as Hyun-soo reminds Ji-won, “Some people call me a hero for having caught a serial killer.”
Hae-soo, who’s now in prison, meets with Moo-jin and her attorney as Hyun-soo adds that some pity him for taking the blame for his sister’s crime. Hyun-soo can’t understand, “…the one person who should never forgive me doesn’t seem to hate me at all,” and Ji-won explains, “That’s because you don’t know about us.”
Seeing that he’s still wearing his wedding ring, Ji-won is tempted to ask about it until she remembers that she’s there to cheer him on. When Hyun-soo admits that he’s nervous, Ji-won encourages him to remember what he practiced.
Ji-won sits with Moo-jin as Hae-soo’s trial for the village foreman’s murder begins. While a televised newscast reports that Hae-soo claimed self-defense, Hyun-soo enters the courtroom.
On the stand, Hyun-soo recalls finding his sister standing over the dead foreman and in a flashback, Hae-soo shuddered when she recounted that the village foreman attacked her. Hae-soo’s attorney asks why Hyun-soo didn’t go to the police for help and he explains that after the truth about their father came out, he and his sister were reviled.
When asked if Hae-soo feared the village foreman, Hyun-soo testifies that she couldn’t sleep whenever he was dragged before the shaman and that she threw up all the time. At the end of the defense’s questions, the jurors appear sympathetic.
At the police station, Woo-chul reminds his team that Hae-soo’s claim of self-defense will be difficult to prove because she used a deadly weapon. When Jae-sub complains that all of the villagers are against her, he remembers something and pulls out a witness statement.
During cross examination, the prosecutor reminds Hyun-soo that he lied about his identity for 15 years and even deceived his wife. Asked if he feels guilt, Hyun-soo suddenly remembers saying, “I love you, Ji-won,” as well as admitting that to Hae-soo that he never once felt love for his wife.
When Hyun-soo looks at Ji-won, he can’t answer the prosecutor’s question. Moo-jin whispers that the prosecution just convinced the jurors that everything Hyun-soo said is a lie.
After court is adjourned, Moo-jin scolds Hyun-soo for forgetting what to say as they walk to his car. Hyun-soo sees Ji-won’s reflection in the car window and admits, “The moment my eyes met hers, my mind went blank.”
Before she can get into her car, Ji-won gets a call from Jae-sub. When Moo-jin insists that Hyun-soo genuinely cared for Ji-won, he disagrees, “I wouldn’t have married someone I loved when living a false life.”
Moo-jin proves that Ji-won is on Hyun-soo’s mind when he pretends that she’s standing outside his car and Hyun-soo’s head whips around. Hyun-soo refuses to fall for the ploy a second time and is surprised when Ji-won knocks on his window, “Mr. Do, we have someplace to go.”
Jae-sub alerted Ji-won about the village foreman’s nephew, Yang Jin-tae, whose past statement claimed that his uncle used Hyun-soo’s exorcisms to steal money from Min-seok’s account. On the drive to meet the nephew, Ji-won explains that the foreman withdrew five times more money than needed to pay the shaman and in her excitement, she calls Hyun-soo, “Sweetie.”
Moo-jin visits Hae-soo to tell her about the possibility of a new witness that Hyun-soo and Ji-won are on their way to meet. Hae-soo asks how they’re getting along and Moo-jin shares his concern that Hyun-soo’s personality has changed since the shooting. Hae-soo wonders, “Maybe this is who he truly is?”
Hae-soo asks about his new roommate and Moo-jin assures her that Hyun-soo has made himself at home. Embarrassed to be seen in prison garb, Hae-soo suggests that Moo-jin shouldn’t visit her so often but he sweetly exclaims that the color is flattering. Hae-soo shares her hope that she’ll soon be able to share a meal with Mo-jin, Hyun-soo, Ji-won and Eun-ha.
Ji-won rings the doorbell to Yang Jin-tae’s apartment but he’s not home and when she can’t reach him by phone, Hyun-soo guesses that he changed his mind. When Ji-won gets a text confirming his suspicion, Hyun-soo turns to leave but she suggests waiting for him to come home.
When it starts to rain, Ji-won watches it with a smile and Hyun-soo is mesmerized. Ji-won holds out her hand to catch some water and Hyun-soo unknowingly breaks into a smile. The spell is broken when Hyun-soo suddenly recalls claiming, “Ji-won only believes what she sees. Because of that, I can see through her.”
Ji-won’s mother watches Eun-ha draw her family and when asked why she didn’t include her dad, she explains that it makes her mom cry. Suddenly sad, Eun-ha admits, “I hate Dad. How can he go on a trip alone?”
When the rain stops, Hyun-soo offers to wait for Yang Jin-tae so Ji-won can go home. Her eyes focused on his wedding ring, Ji-won finally asks why he’s still wearing it. Hyun-soo explains that the ring balances his hand during metalworking and he apologizes for not returning it sooner.
Hyun-soo places the ring in Ji-won’s hand just as Yang Jin-tae returns. At the sight of Hyun-soo, Yang Jin-tae runs away but Hyun-soo gets to him before his elevator closes.
At a café, Ji-won records Yang Jin-tae’s interview on her phone. Yang Jin-tae explains that his uncle became the guardian of Min-seok’s children in order to steal their money. Yang Jin-tae spread false rumors about Hyun-soo after his uncle agreed to pay his college tuition.
Yang Jin-tae left freshly killed chickens in the village’s streets and blamed it on Hyun-soo to confirm his rumor that Hyun-soo was possessed by his father’s spirit. When Hyun-soo asks Yang Jin-tae to testify, he balks, “I’m an elementary school teacher. If this goes public, I’ll lose everything.”
Hyun-soo advises, “…think about what you really want…so that you won’t end up hating yourself.” Ji-won looks at Hyun-soo in surprise when he adds, “I’m going to forgive you as of this very moment. So you no longer need to feel guilty about what you did to me.”
On the drive back, Ji-won remarks that it couldn’t have been easy to forgive Yang Jin-tae. Hyun-soo confesses that it was quite easy because it was a lie intended to get Yang Jin-tae to change his mind. Hyun-soo smiles with satisfaction when Yang Jin-tae calls him with the news that he’ll testify.
Ji-won looks horrified when Hyun-soo suggests that Yang Jin-tae should be the defense’s final witness for dramatic effect. Hyun-soo confesses that Ji-won is embarrassingly easy to read and guesses what she’s thinking, “This isn’t the guy I know.” Pulling over, a tearful Ji-won demands to know why he’s being so mean.
Hyun-soo explains that when he woke up, he discovered that he not only possessed impressive metalworking skills, he had the ability to exploit people’s emotions to his advantage. Hyun-soo’s voice quivers and his eyes fill with tears as he confronts Ji-won, “You want me to tell you I still feel the same way toward you even though I don’t remember anything about you. You want me to lie to you like that.”
Sobbing, Ji-won asks, “How could you forget me…After how much we loved each other. After how we got this far.” By now, Hyun-soo is crying too as he shares that he’s afraid that there isn’t an ounce of sincerity within him, “…how long will these feelings that I feel for you last?”
Ji-won pleads, “Why can’t you trust yourself,” but Hyun-soo angrily admits how much he resents her hope that the man that she knew will return, “I hate him. I don’t want to know anything about him.” Emotionally exhausted, Hyun-soo argues that they’re going around and around in circles, unable to move forward. Devastated, Ji-won does her best to control her sobs while Hyun-soo cries beside her.
Moo-jin reads through the negative comments posted to his online article, “The Other Side of a Serial Murder”. When Hyun-soo walks in, Moo-jin asks if he’s crazy and shows him the refrigerator filled with egg tarts. Hyun-soo helplessly explains, “I keep buying them whenever I see them.”
When Moo-jin sees that Hyun-soo has been crying, he worries that Yang Jin-tae refused to testify. After Hyun-soo reports that he agreed, Moo-jin guesses that Ji-won finally hit him.
Hyun-soo would welcome getting hit by Ji-won if he could avoid seeing her again to discuss their kid. When asked about plans to see Eun-ha, Hyun-soo shakes his head and muses, “If I give what’s left in my inheritance to the kid. If I say let’s end it at that, would she be hurt?”
In her bedroom, Ji-won takes out one of Hyun-soo’s shirts and breathes in his scent. Later, she listens to Hyun-soo’s advice in the recording of Yang Jin-tae’s interview, “I want you to think about what you really want…so that you won’t end up hating yourself.”
Eun-ha wakes up in her bed and finds her mother sitting beside her. She starts to cry when she asks if her parents got a divorce like the kids are saying. Ji-won denies it but Eun-ha argues, “Then why isn’t he coming home?”
Pulling her daughter close, Ji-won tearfully explains that she wants Daddy to be happy and Eun-ha agrees, “Me too.” Ji-won realizes, “Daddy has never once lived as himself. Mommy wants Daddy to live freely at least once.”
Ji-won visits Hae-soo in prison and when she’s thanked for finding the new witness, Ji-won admits that it pales compared to Hae-soo’s sacrifice. With a small smile, Hae-soo explains, “Thanks to that, I’m finally able to like myself a bit.” When Hae-soo asks about Hyun-soo, Ji-won confesses, “I’m going to let him go.”
Ji-won is in court along with Moo-jin and Hyun-soo when the jury’s verdict is announced, “The defendant Do Hae-soo’s actions are hereby found as self-defense.” The judges are responsible for sentencing and Woo-chul, Jae-sub and Ho-joon huddle around a computer at the station to hear their decision.
Even though the judges disagreed with the jury’s verdict, they decided against any punishment because Hae-soo was a minor at the time of the crime. With a shout, Ji-won’s colleagues celebrate the news.
Hyun-soo visits Hee-sung’s mother in prison and she asks about her husband. Hyun-soo recalls Dr. Baek’s happy greeting when he visited him in a psychiatric hospital, “Hee-sung!”
Taking Hyun-soo’s hand, Dr. Baek saw the real Hee-sung’s face and complained, “I’ve been waiting for you for so long.” Hee-sung lovingly confessed, “I missed you too, you know,” and Dr. Baek pressed a pocketful of candies into the hand of a confused Hyun-soo.
Hyun-soo tells Dr. Baek’s wife, “One day at a time, his mind is taking him to his past.” When she wonders about the reason for his visit, Hyun-soo inquires, “Detective Cha. Who was she to me?”
Hee-sung’s mother shares that Hyun-soo hated bringing Ji-won over to visit. At first, she and her husband assumed it was to protect their secret but she eventually realized that Hyun-soo was protecting Ji-won because he truly cared for her.
Moo-jin lets himself into Hae-soo’s empty apartment and recalls her announcement that she was going abroad to study. After Hyun-soo expressed his approval, Moo-jin offered Hae-soo his full support but warned, “Don’t get your hopes up though. I won’t wait for you.”
Moo-jin suddenly remembered an interview that he’d scheduled and he promised to see Hae-soo before her departure. At Hae-soo’s prompting, Hyun-soo followed him and he found Moo-jin crying while staring at Hae-soo through a window. Moo-jin asked for tips on how to lose his memory and Hyun-soo offered to help him fracture his skull.
While Moo-jin takes in the view from the rooftop, Hae-soo calls. When he claims that he forgot that they scheduled the call, Hae-soo sounds upset and Moo-jin can’t hide how happy that makes him.
Hyun-soo walks alone while pondering Hae-soo’s parting words, “You and I somehow got lost…that’s why we need to have a starting point so that we don’t get lost again.” Hyun-soo stops when he recognizes the spot where he and Ji-won took shelter from the rain on their first date.
Standing under the eaves, Hyun-soo remembers Ji-won’s question, “Has it ever occurred to you that you’re the only one who doesn’t know you like me?” When Hyun-soo also remembers smiling at Ji-won that day, his eyes fill with tears.
After a call from his real estate agent, Hyun-soo surveys a house that meets his criteria, unaware that it’s his house. Hyun-soo reads the name of workshop, “The Place Where the Morning Star Rests”, as the agent takes him inside.
Left alone to explore the space, Hyun-soo finds a notebook that contains notes that he’d written about Ji-won’s likes and dislikes. Hyun-soo is particularly interested when he reads, “She gets excited when it rains. And she smiles over nothing.”
Ji-won walks in and is surprised to see Hyun-soo. Ji-won offers to leave everything for him except the notebooks, “…they’re all about me, so I can’t give them to you.”
Hyun-soo asks about the shop’s name and Ji-won confirms that he chose it but never shared it’s meaning. When she wistfully laments, “I guess no one will ever know,” Hyun-soo tells her the story of Hephaestus, the Greek god of metalworking.
Hephaestus was the ugliest god in Mount Olympus and spent all of his time in his workshop. Hephaestus had a wife that he dearly loved and her Roman name was Venus. Hyun-soo explains that the planet that bears her name is known as “the morning star”.
Hyun-soo finally realizes that he genuinely loved Ji-won and he confesses, “You were always on my mind in this very space where I spent most of my time.” Ji-won ignores him and shares her plan to move to Busan as soon as her transfer is approved, “So that I won’t run into you even by chance.”
Hyun-soo looks frightened at the prospect of losing her, “I finally took one step toward you. How could you run away?” Hyun-soo asks Ji-won to change her mind and when he promises, “I’ll be good to you. I’ll like you for real,” she remembers telling him the same thing just before their first kiss, a sign that his memories are returning.
When Ji-won looks up at him, Hyun-soo proposes, “Let’s search for the person you’re looking for together…I want to know who he is.” After Ji-won notices the bandage on his hand, Hyun-soo shows her many others and explains that he keeps hurting himself without his ring.
Taking his ring from the chain around her neck, Ji-won returns it to Hyun-soo’s finger and a tear rolls down his face. Hyun-soo confesses, “Whenever I’m with you, I get nervous…afraid that I’ll make a mistake,” and Ji-won admits that she feels the same way. Hyun-soo kisses Ji-won tentatively and then again more passionately.
During a final look at the home’s interior, we hear Ji-won ask Hyun-soo if he wants to come along when she picks up Eun-ha. She laughs softly when Hyun-soo frets, “Will she like me?”
Hyun-soo nervously twirls his ring outside of Eun-ha’s kindergarten but he turns around when he hears, “Oppa!” When Eun-ha hugs him, Hyun-soo remembers holding her when she was just a baby.
Still thinking her dad was on a trip, Eun-ha asks if he brought a gift and Hyun-soo stammers that he forgot. Eun-ha assures her dad, “It’s okay. You’re my gift…I like you more than anything in the whole world.”
After Hyun-soo manages to admit, “Me too,” Eun-ha wraps her arms around his neck. When Ji-won hugs them both, Hyun-soo smiles through his tears.
COMMENTS
Flower of Evil was unpredictable until the end because I never expected that Hyun-soo’s latest injury would lead to amnesia. After everything that Hyun-soo and Ji-won had gone through, the loss of the memories of their life together, including cute little Eun-ha, turned out to be their greatest challenge of all. It kept them apart for the majority of the finale and when they were together, it was tortuous. Once they finally found their way back to each other it was incredibly moving and satisfying and my only complaint is that it felt rushed.
In the entire scheme of things, Hyun-soo’s amnesia made sense to me because it gave Ji-won a chance to walk away from Hyun-soo. There was no medical reason for Hyun-soo’s prolonged unconsciousness, so it’s possible that he didn’t wake up for psychological reasons. Hyun-soo had been experiencing terrible bouts of panic and anxiety and his greatest fear was that he’d lose his family because of his lies. In a way, Hyun-soo’s amnesia protected him from the pain of that loss if Ji-won were to finally leave him. In fact, after waking up, Hyun-soo did everything he could to push Ji-won away. As Ji-won hoped and waited for Hyun-soo’s memories to return, she found herself fighting for their relationship, so there was no doubt that she was committed to staying with him, in spite of his secrets.
Hyun-soo’s month long absence also allowed Hae-soo to finally face the consequences of her killing of the village foreman. Since Hae-soo survived Hee-sung’s attack, the only way for her and Hyun-soo to truly be free of their pasts was for her to be held accountable for her actions. The tragedy that befell Min-seok’s children after his death became public knowledge thanks to the trial, proving that Hyun-soo never killed anyone. And it revealed the criminal intentions of the village foreman that contributed to his death after he drove both Hae-soo and Hyun-soo to desperation. After Hae-soo’s trial and release, Ji-won’s admission that she wants Hyun-soo to know freedom at least once in his life is the moment she lets him go. For the first time in their adult lives, Hae-soo and Hyun-soo are truly free.
Lee Jun-ki and Moon Chae-won delivered consistently solid performances until the very end. So impressive. The standout scenes for me in this finale were when Hyun-soo couldn’t take his eyes off of Ji-won as she watched the rain and their breakdown in the car after Hyun-soo went all dark and twisty on her. In Hyun-soo’s defense, he was totally confused by his conflicting memories and emotions plus he was determined not to lie to Ji-won. Normally, that’s commendable. Thinking back to what he was like when he first met Ji-won, because that’s who he is once again, Hyun-soo pushed her away then too. But Hyun-soo wasn’t able to escape Ji-won’s pull at that time and the same holds true again, thank goodness. And it was the significance of his workshop’s name, “The Place Where the Morning Star Rests,” that turned the tide in Ji-won’s favor.
Hephaestus, who was rejected by the gods, sounds a lot like the young Hyun-soo, who couldn’t understand or feel emotions and found himself a social outcast. Until he met Ji-won, who connected with him in a way no one else ever had or could. No wonder Hyun-soo was so devoted to her, even though he didn’t fully understand at the time that he loved her. But the name of his workshop was Hyun-soo’s acknowledgement that his wife was precious to him. And that refrigerator full of egg tarts proved how much he longed for his daughter even though he didn’t remember her either.
In the end, both Hyun-soo and Ji-won found each other not once but twice, a real testament to the fact that they belonged together. Ji-won didn’t suffer any career setbacks because of Hyun-soo and her relationships with her colleagues survived. Everyone’s safe from Baek Hee-sung and his parents and Dr. Baek’s break with reality gave us another chance to see Kim Ji-hoon. While Hae-soo and Moo-jin didn’t get together, I have a feeling the door is still open to a romance with time. Who else will accept Hae-soo? She’s not only the daughter of a serial killer but she killed someone herself. Moo-jin doesn’t care one bit because he’s made his own share of mistakes and I’m convinced he felt some responsibility for what happened to her after he abandoned her and Hyun-soo. After that touching reunion between Hyun-soo and his wife and daughter, we’re left to imagine what comes next. Whatever their future looks like, we can be sure that Hyun-soo and Ji-won will always be together.
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1 Eazal
September 28, 2020 at 8:44 AM
First things first: thanks so much for all your great recaps and comments.
I'm not happy with this drama. I mean, I was expecting such a terrible ending that I actually found this one not that bad. For a moment I got high hopes that Hyun Soo remained true to his nature and never went back to JiWoo, but writer chose that path. After all writer-nin and I haven't been on the same path for the last 6 episodes.
We could see the real HyunSoo, and it was nice to watch that sibling bonding. No one understands HyunSoo better than HaeSoo. They don't need to talk. JiWoo thinks she knows HyuSoo, but she doesn't. She just knows his version in the form of HeeSung. I wish them luck.
I missed we got to see MiSook again, reunited with her dying husband so she knows he never gave up on her. Also MooJin asking for forgiveness. That would have been nice.
I didn't buy for a minute Dr. Baek's evasion of reality. Too easy. I didn't buy Mum's coldness, she had always been unstable and now that she's in jail she's cool and calmed? No. And above all, I didn't buy HyunSoo being so emotional: one minute he's saying he doesn't believe in repentance and the next minute he's crying like a baby? The tears were totally out of character.
Anyway: good performances by all actors, good directing, terrible writing form episodes 11 and I state that my favorite moment was HeeSung crying "Stop, it hurts!". He goes directly to my top 5 villains in dramaland.
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LJK
September 28, 2020 at 3:47 PM
"I got high hopes that Hyun Soo remained true to his nature"...
You kind of remind me of all the people in the drama who believed that DHS indeed had a dark nature... He was capable of going dark (all the human have some degree of darkness inside them)... but he was more capable of being a kind and loving husband/dad/brother/friend (under better circumstances)... He even sacrificed his own life for his sister... He felt pain and regret and love even though he was told otherwise.... imagine if a doctor diagnose a completely healthy person with cancer... wouldn't their health go down the hill despite being completely healthy? Human mind is so complicated and it believes what told over and over... That's why DHS was so confused and over-emotional after finding that he in fact feels so much more than he can ever imagine... It was like his concealed emotion over flown... Like he was so attracted (or even madly in love) with his wife...
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Jasmine95
November 19, 2023 at 3:20 AM
Same, I wanted to see her reunite with her husband and also see In seob reunite with his mom after he got rescued from that human trafficking place in the other episode. I also wish we could’ve seen Hae su and Moo-Jin going on a date or something before she went away or to have asked him to go with her. HyunSoo wasn’t going to be left alone anyways since he apparently is going back with his family. I kinda wish we would’ve gotten a wedding scene at the end of the drama, like HaeSu and Moo-Jin getting married after she was released from jail and and a time skip of them dating and end with them getting married and HyunSoo being at the wedding with JiWoo and Eunha already having reconciled with his wife.
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2 asterell
September 28, 2020 at 9:50 AM
The drama went downhill as soon as it reneged on its premise. It turns out Do Hyun-soo wasn't an antihero, but instead just a pitiable self-sacrificing, misunderstood, misdiagnosed character who discovered he actually had emotions. Episodes were wasted trying to establish Hyun-soo as a morally upright character by rescuing victims of trafficking at risk of his own safety, and even DMS got a pass as the "true" villain since he was killed by Hee-sung. But what the hell were the first 3 episodes about then? Locking up Moo-jin was purely deceptive to the audience and instead, we got what @missvictrix warned of: "what if this drama isn’t the wild game of cat and mouse that it promises to be?"
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Eazal
September 28, 2020 at 10:05 AM
You are totally right.
I feel your pain.
For a moment, on this last episode, when Hyun Soo was being the emotionless guy he was supposed to be, I was happy, but then he was crying all over again because he wants to love his wife. So out of character...
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asterell
September 28, 2020 at 10:28 AM
I was actually smiling when Ji-won had that wtf face in the car. Then he started crying.. Idk, this is the same guy who was watching how to look happy on youtube.
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3 persianrose❤️战哥
September 28, 2020 at 10:02 AM
Flower of evil, despite its initial primer as a thriller, was a psychological drama about healing and love. It was a story of a misunderstood tortured and confused soul, who was abused (by his psychopath father, crazy village people, and Baek family, etc.) and misdiagnosed to think that he has no feeling... People who came in to watch a thriller might be sorely disappointing because this drama is truly about love and its wonderful healing power... a journey of rediscovering yourself, a mature portrayal of love and bonding between a married couple (very unique married relationship as kdrama married couples are usually dysfunctional) and how a strong the love and understanding can overcome several challenges in their life... I give it 9/10, because the baddies were written a bit makjang... however other characters and acting were all top notch (10/10 for sure)..I wish to see Lee Joon Gi and Kim Ji Hoon in another drama as bro their chemistry was so so strong... there was something so appealing about their complicated and intense relationship
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4 Palaa
September 28, 2020 at 10:17 AM
I realized this a few episodes ago, It's not that Hyun-su can't feel emotions, it's just that his feeling of emotion and the expression of the said emotion is disjoint. He feels, but it doesn't automatically show in his face. Therefore, he has studied the connection of feeling and expression on others and mastered faking the expression. The problem is, even when he is sincere, he has to make his face show the emotion exactly the same way he fakes it, and hence assumes his emotion itself is fake.
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froyo
September 28, 2020 at 1:24 PM
Yeah he has feelings but cant understand how he feels. Thats why he feel like his heart "aches" whenever he see Jiwon almost know his real identity. In last episode he describe it "my head went blank, i feel suffocated" when its just him being hurts because he see Jiwon is hurting.
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5 CharmingKey
September 28, 2020 at 10:20 AM
I'm not satisfied with the last quarter of this drama, but I'm still glad I watched it. The first three quarters were great so I'm left with a net positive on this one. Honestly, if I deleted the final episode from my memory, it would fix a lot of the problems I have with the storyline.
LJK and MCW delivered incredible performances. And Eunha is the cutest little nugget. Those 3 make it worth the watch.
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Meera_29
November 6, 2020 at 4:19 PM
For a drama whose first six episodes I binged in one night, I can’t believe I almost slept through the final episode.
FoE had all the potential. I hate sad endings, but for some reason, I can’t seem to see how flat this ending was. Just like the recapper mentioned, it was probably rushed, and that was inevitably obvious.
Hats off to LJK and MCW! I loved them together in Criminal Minds, and I was one of the happiest when the casting news for this drama was made.
Also, I think I may be the only one that ABSOLUTELY loves the guy playing Hee Seong. Dammit! I love the way he wraps his long hair and twists his neck in an all shades of sexy way!
Finally, thank you dramaland, for letting me see the goodness in evil flowers.
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6 asterell
September 28, 2020 at 10:24 AM
Also, I couldn't help but notice by the end, and I say this as someone who doesn't ever look for these things, that the men in this show basically got off unpunished.
What happened to our resident human trafficker Yeom Sang-Chul? He quickly and quietly dies after snorting some rat poison. His last memory is making off with half a million in cash. What about our resident serial-killer Baek Hee-sung? He wakes up after a deep slumber for one last hurrah and dies after conveniently inducing some amnesia into our hero and inflicting some serious psychotic harm to his forever nemesis, who now never has to live with the guilt of actually remembering a decade of deceiving his wife. Finally, what about our unscrupulous Dr. Baek? He's just insane in a hospital ward! Well, at least his private room isn't VIP!
It is kind of ridiculous to me that not one male had to stand trial to be punished for his crimes, including DHS, but instead we saw Hae-soo give up her life, get stabbed and be put to trial, Hee-sung's mom in prison, and worst of all Ji-won, who basically had to unconditionally accept this miserable circumstance (since laws of k-drama). Just ridiculous.
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Eazal
September 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM
Agree to every single thing.
And please add MooJin, who convinced himself there was a deer in the basement, kept the tape for 20 years and then confessed and got a couple of bad comments on internet.
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Meera_29
November 6, 2020 at 4:22 PM
I honestly would have preferred if the drama ended at episode 15 in the white room. The finale just falls too flat for me. It got me sleeping, maaan!
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cozybooks
September 28, 2020 at 12:53 PM
I can actually understand it, if the dad WAS charged but is now mentally incompetent (or just in a mental prison facility) and if the family didn't charge Hyun-Soo for anything he did, then would the legal system be required to charge him? I know that in some cases the victims have to press charges otherwise the case is just dropped. I mean, they didn't end up being brought before the courts, but I wouldn't say they got away with what they did... one of them died being shot by a police officer.
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persianrose❤️战哥
September 28, 2020 at 1:20 PM
The drama perfectly depicted the two different sorts of love: the blind love (Baek family love for their child) vs. the realistic love (CJW love for DHS)... CJW love for DHS never blinded her to see his darker sides... she tirelessly looked for the truth and even she rightfully had some moments of doubt... on the other hand Baek family lost themselves loving their Son so blindly... as parents we all love our children but it doesn't mean we can turn a blind eye to their wrongdoings and mistakes and conceal the truth... I'm glad the drama didn't waste time on legal aspects at the last episode and mainly focused on DHS and CJW rediscovering their love and bonds: 14-year of marriage is no joke and they were pulled to each other against all the odds
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persianrose❤️战哥
September 28, 2020 at 1:07 PM
It might sound stupid, but people can die after snorting some rat poison (https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-rat-poison-cocaine-death-20140912-story.html)... BHS was a murderer from 15 years ago... so his killing methods were classic and old-fashioned (I actually give a thumbs up to the writer for not making him overly smart or so familiar with current technologies after being in comatose for 15y he indeed missed out on some technologies such as car dash cams etc.)
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asterell
September 28, 2020 at 2:22 PM
Not saying it's not possible.. I just would have preferred both of them behind bars.
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Anon
September 30, 2020 at 11:43 AM
Sure, you could interpret the two baddies' deaths as getting off easy, if you chose to, but among the leads, the men aren't the only characters who avoided punishment in the end.
Don't forget that Jiwon also (thank goodness!) got to keep her job as a police officer after obstructing a murder investigation, destroying evidence, and aiding a wanted fugitive (and her immediate superiors are well aware of this and most likely aided in the cover up). So she also escaped punishment for serious crimes, which, legally speaking, should have resulted in the loss of her job, prosecution, and probable imprisonment.
And as for Hae-soo, I don't see her as being disproportionately punished because her case went to trial, because she actually did kill someone. Nor do I see her as "giving up her life". Before the trial, she was living in isolation, suffering from insomnia, being stalked and harrased by reporters, and drowning in guilt and depression because her brother had taken the blame for a crime she'd committed. Finally confessing to that crime was her choice, and going to trial was the only way for her to finally let go of her burden, and to finally get vindication for the fact that she'd acted in self defense. And she was aquitted, so she's not even a convicted felon. So I see the trial as a means to her liberation, not as a punishment. It would have been far more of a burden for her to keep carrying that guilt and letting her brother take the blame. So I was thrilled for her in the end, especially considering the fact that she finally gets to have her own life (and without Moo-jin! sorry Moo-jin but in my opinion she deserves better) and start over in a country where people won't care that she once killed someone in self defense, or that she's daughter of a murderer. For the first time, she's finally free to really live, and confessing to the crime and facing justice was the only feasible way to achieve that freedom.
And if we're to view the fact that she was stabbed as a punitive or disproportionate act of violence towards a female character, we'd have to weigh it within the context of the show's depictions of violence towards both genders. Because it's also a fact that the primary male character suffered horrific violence: he was not only stabbed (twice), but drugged, kidnapped, tied to a tree and stoned, subjected to ritualistic abuse, tortured, drowned, beaten, hit by a car, and finally, shot in the head, which resulted in the second traumatic memory loss of his life.
Likewise if we're to consider the emotional pain Jiwon suffered as punitive or disproportionate to that of the male characters, we'd have to consider that Hyun-soo was also psychologically and emotionally abused by his father, his psychologist, the Baeks, the town mayor (and his son) and his entire village (the level of gaslighting he faced was seriously disturbing), and lived his life falsely believing he was incapable of emotion, while suffering...
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Anon
September 30, 2020 at 11:45 AM
(cont'd) from frightening hallucinations, physically crippling anxiety, and the constant fear that he would be rejected by his loved ones if he ever let his perfect facade slip.
And in the final episode, both Ji-won and Hyun-soo were suffering from the emotional fallout of everything that had happened in their relationship, because despite the fact that Hyun-soo's conscious memories were suppressed, the emotional weight of his lived experience with Ji-won was very much intact (that scene where they were both sobbing in the car was so incredibly painful for both of them). So I don't see how it could be reasoned that Ji-won and Hae-soo faced a contextually unfair or disproportionate weight of violence or turmoil or punishment in the narrative in relation to their male counterpart. Misogynistic violence (physical and emotional) towards women in television shows is rampant and infuriating, and as a fervent feminist, I'm hyper-conscious of it when I see it. But considering the context in which these events occurred, I don't see it being a present here. The one person who was punished repeatedly and excessively throughout the course of the show (for crimes he didn't even commit) was the male protagonist.
And as for Moo-jin, I did feel that he paid a personal price for his behavior. He'd been extremely self absorbed in his dealings with Hae-soo, and in the end, what he treasured the most, his popularity as a reporter, and his potential relationship, where spoiled by that. And it felt like a good step towards positive growth for him, that he didn't get the things that he'd originally wanted, and he's actively growing into a better person, who is less narcissistic in his relationships.
And with Man-woo and Mi-ja...their eventual fates echoed who they had always been. Mi-ja tried to kill her son twice because she recognized he would never change, while her husband insisted on living in denial, so in the end, I didn't see his break with reality as his not being punished, but as a consistent development for his already delusional tendencies.
Besides, if we wanted to widen the scope and look at the fates of other characters on the show, I feel like repercussions were pretty fairly meted out across gender lines. In Seo's father, the taxi driver, and the female social worker who killed the old woman all ended up in jail for their crimes, as did the remainder of the human trafficking ring. And you can also add the female trafficker to the list of people who "avoided" punishment through death, if you see it that way. But personally, I would have been rubbed the wrong way if only the female trafficker had to meet a gruesome death while her male counterpart got to live on, but the fact that their fates were similar felt fair within the context of the show. Not to mention, in direct opposite to the misogynist concept of killing of women to fuel male angst, Jeon Mi-sook was alive and well in the end, which was also a huge relief...
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Anon
September 30, 2020 at 11:48 AM
(cont'd) And sure, in the end we could have had every lead character face the worst case scenario consequences of their actions, which would have landed Ji-won jobless and in jail for obstruction, aiding/abetting, and evidence tampering, Moo-jin in jail for obstruction/aiding/abetting, Hae-soo in jail for evidence tampering and arson, and Hyun-soo in jail for kidnapping, evading police, and conspiracy to commit identity theft. Whew, that would have been a lot. But thankfully, the writer didn't choose to go that way, and the explanations for why they all got away with these crimes makes sense, as there were some seriously extenuating circumstances.
So yeah, I've seen a lot of shows that disproportionately dump emotional and physical violence on women in misogynistic ways, but in my opinion, this show was definitely not one of them.
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JustSomebody
November 30, 2020 at 2:36 AM
Wow, that was a surprisingly detailed and apt analysis. Commendable. I also agree completely. The only ending that gave me pause was the parents, but I can see how it would fit into their narrative character arcs.
On a semi-related note, I'm still left to wonder if the truth of Do Min Seok's death ever came to light though. I know it wasn't in any way necessary to the narrative's conclusion, but I'm still curious.
7 LJK
September 28, 2020 at 10:35 AM
The chemistry between Lee Jun Ki and Moon Chae Won was out of the chart! I could feel all the their love, their sorrows and their conflicting feeling and tensions... LJK did an amazing job portraying a character with mental disturbs, and MCW did an excellent performance as a strong detective with so much love for her husband and family... Her trust in her husband was strictly tested and even though she had moments of doubt, she was determined to uncover the truth and I was in love with her character because of that... she was a pillar for tormented and confused DHS and an important part if his emotional development. Her trust and love for him was so incredible that made DHS finally developed his emotion (that was concealed for so long) and discover himself (despite all the torments and confusions that left him mentally disturbed).
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8 Stranger
September 28, 2020 at 10:52 AM
"I wanted to share the message that even where evil has been buried, flowers can still bloom." — Yoo Jung Hee, Flower of Evil writer. This sentence fully explains the essence of this drama and the narrative. This drama is a melodrama (as most of of other works from this PD), so if you want to watch suspense or thriller I don't recommend it (those aspects were not fully developed). The drama focus is on healing and love which might sound very cliche at the first glance... but the love and bonding between DHS and CJW was not cliche at all, it was believably strong and amazing. I wish both actors achieve well deserved recognition for Flower of Evil... Their performance was something I haven't seen in kdrama for a long long while
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cozybooks
September 28, 2020 at 12:45 PM
I LOVE that. I really loved this drama, and the ending, while slower, was still nice. Kudos especially to the actors, who really brought the script to life.
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jillian
September 28, 2020 at 8:32 PM
That does explain the drama so well. Thanks for sharing that.
LJG and MCW are amazing in this drama. I can not say it enough. They fully embodied the complicated feelings of their characters. The casting director did an amazing job getting this two. They are simply off the charts actors.
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9 HeyoMayo
September 28, 2020 at 11:37 AM
I feel like a dishrag, every drop of emotion and energy wrung out of me. This pair is exhausting. And I adore the soul outta them.
Take away all the kiss/bed scenes and this couple would still convince you of their 14-year marriage. It's the way their eyes drink each other in, the intimacy in their voices, the readiness to fight the whole world for the other if necessary. The affection is right in your face or more subtle depending on the scene, but it's always present (even when they're not physically together). Something about the way MCW & LJG orbit around each other throughout this drama is so magnetic.
On the 'morning star' thing: while Hyunso and Hephaestus are both metalworkers/perceived as despicable figures/madly in love with their wives, Jiwon and Aphrodite's only similarity is that they're both beautiful. Like hot daaang aphrodite cheated multiple times, she had a whole harem or sumthin. But Jiwon only has eyes for her husband and would crawl to hell and back just to save him. Therefore, Jiwon beats out any goddess.
the cast and crew better SWEEP. ALL. THE. AWARDS.
Imma go rewatch now because I want to go through all of that again.
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cozybooks
September 28, 2020 at 12:46 PM
Literally. I hadn't seen ep. 15 and watched ep 15-16 back to back.... I was SO. DRAINED by the end of it all. Lol good job, writers. Good job. And their marital chemistry was SO real!!
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persianrose❤️战哥
September 28, 2020 at 1:51 PM
I think I need a re-watch as well. Now that we know the ending, I can just relax and enjoy their acting and chemistry
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jillian
September 28, 2020 at 8:36 PM
i agree this drama is emotionally draining. I went through alot of tissues weekly. But I liked it in small doses because its cathartic.
When I do rewatch this, I will buy a boxes of tissues in advance. 😅
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jillian
September 28, 2020 at 8:36 PM
** a lot of boxes
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10 Oranus
September 28, 2020 at 11:57 AM
First of all, I would like to express my sincere gratitude to all of the casts of FoE, they all did such a great job. However these three were exceptionally good:
Actor Lee Joon-gi: Wow just wow, he's another level, outstanding and captivating performance. Do Hyun-soo was a innocent flower with some trait of evilness inside him. Although he was the victim for the majority of his life, but he could be an evil once it came to protecting/revenging his family and keeping his identity hidden in order to keep his family. LJG decomposes into Do Hyun-soo so deep that I'm not sure if I can see him in any other role any time soon!!
Actor Moon Chae-won: This is by far her best acting performance and the best female detective character (and wife) in the history of kdrama (btw I watch Signal, Stranger1, etc. but so far I like CJW the best: strong, confident, smart, and a perfect wife).
Actor Kim Ji-hoon: He completely broke his typical image, acting as a psychopath killer (who was smart ruthless killer originally but lost so much of his perceptiveness as a result of being comatose for 15 years). I'm sure he'll get so many new offers after this drama!
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persianrose❤️战哥
September 28, 2020 at 1:45 PM
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persianrose❤️战哥
September 28, 2020 at 2:06 PM
I know that they probably receive NO awards because k-drama Gods only recognize the high rated (or over-hyped) dramas, but both MCW and LJG truly deserve to be recognized for their acting in FoE... somebody give them a trophy already
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11 Kafiyah Bello
September 28, 2020 at 12:06 PM
As I mentioned in what we are watching the only saving grace for me was Eun Ha got to be with her favorite person, her father. The rest was nonsense. Meh.
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12 Yoon_Ka
September 28, 2020 at 12:44 PM
"The Place Where the Morning Star Rests" I'm a huge fan of Greek mythology and this story Hyunsoo said made me see how even when he had no idea about his own emotions showcased it in his own way . The amnesia part I was a bit upset as it's common in dramas but how they still used but in a different way made the drama EXTREMELY UNIQUE, I did hope Haesoo and Moojin will be together but I this way is also better as it gives them both time to sort out their feelings. Hyunsoo not getting his memory back instantly and getting it gradually was a extraordinary it's even cuter when he pretended to not like/think about JiWon but when Moojin said "oh! Detective Cha" he looked around my heart just popped out of my chest . It's sad to see this MASTERPIECES end but then again we can all hope to see these AMAZING, AWARD WINNING ACTORS AND ACTRESSES again in even more AMAZING MASTERPIECES soon right ? Definitely "Flower of evil"showed drama fans a newer version of dramas with killer suspension, action , romance, family and friendship and personally this is definitely my top 3 BEST LEE JUN KI dramas of all time ... !!!
My forever applause for this amazing stars and crew for making this MASTERPIECES during a time of such huge crises time !! Thank you for sharing this MASTERPIECES with us fans and thank you for being safe while filming
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13 cozybooks
September 28, 2020 at 12:50 PM
Good Job, Flower of Evil! I never went away in loving and following this show, I just stopped reading the recaps (school started, so no time lol TT TT) But I just wanted to say I LOVED the journey these characters went through, and even though the final episode was a lot slower than the buildup, and even though it pulled the amnesia trope, I was really appreciative of the fact that it didn't just magically go away and they really showed how it might be to have only fragments of your memory left. He HAD fragments, and they scared him. That was well done.
Also, I can kind of understand why they pulled the trope--regardless of whether he remembered or not, Hyun-Soo and Ji-Won suddenly would have had a LOT to work on in their relationship as his more manipulative, darker sides come to the surface. The fact that she can blame it a little bit on his amnesia might be a blessing in disguise as they discover how to be more fully honest with each other about ALL of who Hyun-Soo is, and become a truer, stronger couple for it. And, as always, Eun-ha stole the show by being the PERFECT way to end this drama--not with just their romance, but with his absolute love and devotion for the little family he'd created for himself.
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Sud
March 15, 2023 at 2:43 AM
True i would like it better if he doesn't remember his past at all .
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Qingdao: likes scented candles
March 24, 2023 at 6:44 PM
Agree! And they had to fall in love all over again....
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14 kiara
September 28, 2020 at 1:12 PM
It was great to see Lee Jun-ki and Moon Chae-won in a much better project than their previous.
I can't help but hope to see them together in a sageuk where I loved them most.
Kim Ji-hoon also <3. It's good to see him play a baddie.
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persianrose❤️战哥
September 28, 2020 at 1:27 PM
I defiantly want to see them in a sageuk which is indeed their forte, (not necessarily together though, they can have different partners)... However, I'm so wary of Koran period dramas as I didn't watch a good one for ages... Where are the classic sageuks' writer?
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kiara
September 28, 2020 at 3:00 PM
Sadly most have retired but we still have Jeong Hyun-min who joined the sageuk world late after working for 10yrs as political aide.
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persianrose❤️战哥
September 28, 2020 at 3:19 PM
I haven't watched Nokdu Flower, I thought it's more of a youth drama than a true sageuk... The last classic sageuk that I remember is SFD... the most recent one, 7 Day Queen wasn't bad but I'm kind of tired of that portion of the history as it has repeated so many times in so many dramas/films... I wish to see LJG and MCW in a good 35 ep Goryeo sageuk
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kiara
September 28, 2020 at 4:20 PM
NOKDU FLOWER is not the same as Tale of Nokdu. It’s based on Donghak Peasant Revolution.
He also wrote JEONG DOJEON, the more historical version of QSD.
kiara
October 6, 2020 at 6:11 PM
Oops not QSD but SFD.
15 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
September 28, 2020 at 1:35 PM
So the writer managed to force everyone into perhaps the only possible kdrama-suitable ending, thus highlighting the limitations of The Way Kdramas Have To Be.
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Eazal
September 29, 2020 at 9:39 AM
Wise words.
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Qingdao: likes scented candles
March 24, 2023 at 6:46 PM
Love this....so true: "The limitations of The Way Kdramas Have to Be" -- smiling and nodding!
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16 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
September 28, 2020 at 1:47 PM
Noticeable scent makes me think she needs a better laundry detergent.
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persianrose❤️战哥
September 28, 2020 at 2:17 PM
I used to do the exact same thing as Ji-won when my husband was away for a business trip... I don't necessarily wash every clothes after one use (specially the fancier one)... the natural body scent is not equal to dirtiness... being attracted to the scent of another person's pheromones is one of the sign love
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Mirimini
September 28, 2020 at 8:20 PM
I used to do that too
And i love the scent of my husband's parfume mixed with a bit of his smell
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17 scully
September 28, 2020 at 2:02 PM
Well played, Show. I had my doubts when straight out the gate, we had the time jump and memory loss/amnesia introduced. With much relief, I didn't end up face palming myself throughout this final episode. The palpable anguish between the OTP was so well done and their conversations, especially in the car, were just so raw with heavy words and honest emotions. I relished every second of it.
Overall, I felt the loose ends were tied up in a satisfactory manner. That second-to-last scene between LJK and MCW in the workshop was a real heart-wrencher. I appreciate the open-ended feel to the ending for all our characters. I like that there wasn't any overt 'happy endings' neatly wrapped up in ribbons and bows. The message I got was that our future is what we make of it, no matter our pasts. We got to see that between Moo-Jin and Hae-Soo as their relationship is a work in progress, even as Hae-Soo is off exploring the world and who she is. And of course, this message applies to the OTP too. There were enough answers to give me hope that Hee Sung, Ji-Won and Eun-ha are heading to a brighter, happier future together. Thanks for the recaps, discussion and the company, Beanies!
P/s I enjoyed how the discussions around this show have been largely split between those who wanted to see it go in a darker direction/ending and those who were mostly in the camp of where this show has finally ended. I wonder if the show's ending was reversed and had darker twists overall, whether we would now be in the position of debating whether it should have had a happier ending, heh. To me, that's one of the signs of an engaging show because it created a situation where everyone has an opinion on how the story should turn out.
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Meera_29
November 6, 2020 at 4:32 PM
Truly well said! I adored this drama even before watching it. I see LJK and MCW, and I’m sold. The acting was off the charts. Everyone, including our cute little Eun Ha, delivered. They tug at our heartstrings, made us want to punch the TV, we cried with them, and went on a journey of healing together. It was emotionally draining, thanks to the superb acting.
However, as a lover of thrillers, I was a bit disappointed where the direction of the drama took. I’m one of the group that wanted the ending to take a dark turn. But like someone quoted up there about what the PD of the drama intended, coupled with other comments I’ve read, I’ve come to be accepting of this ending.
Regardless, I love you, dear show.
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18 dramalover4ever
September 28, 2020 at 2:56 PM
I found it satisfying that "Hyun-soo and Ji-won found each other not once but twice". For me, his journey in the last episode was about his integrity. He needed her to accept him as he truly was, just as he insisted on her calling him by his real name. His attraction to her and his centering on her was obvious, even when his memories were lost, but he was filled with guilt because of his deception throughout their married life. He could not live in the old shell of his marriage as it was. She had to see him for what he truly was, and they had to fall in love again, with him as his true self. Eun-ha played a wonderful character - all tributes to Jung Seo-yeon, the child actor. It broke my heart to see the egg tarts in the refrigerator. That was a brilliant touch.
It was clear to me from very early on that he wasn't the evil person he was reputed to be and that Ji-won's love kept him safe from his own self doubt and from the terrifying shadow of his father. At the same time, he was always capable of becoming his father, and LJK shows us this potential many times, keeping us confused about his true nature. Balanced against this, there were the many times when we saw that he was incapable of actually killing someone, but because he was so smart (and capable of manipulating people) he got into the minds of his adversaries and ended up making an alliance with them. The misdiagnosis of his personality just added to the combined weight of prejudice that was loaded onto him and that made him believe he was incapable of expressing emotion. Once those prejudices were exposed for what they were, the floodgates opened.
Who we are and who we become is deeply affected by what is reflected back to us by others. If people believe we are bad and they treat us constantly as if we are bad, then it must be very difficult to continually battle against that identification. If we are told that we don't feel and cannot express emotion, what sort of impact does that have on how we see ourselves, especially if we grow up in the sort of environment that HS grew up in? I can imagine myself looking at my facial expressions in a mirror and trying to look happy or loving if I've been told I am not showing my emotional responses in ways people can interpret them appropriately.
Not for one minute did I see Hyun-soo as evil or as an inconsistent character. He lived in a hostile world that any moment could turn on him and turn into a witch hunt.
The Baeks were horrible people - horrible enough to represent a real threat to HS and his family. To accept Baek Hee-sung's resurrection required a willing suspension of disbelief, one I was prepared to make because he then became a frightening counter to HS. Their showdown was gripping too.
I totally subscribe to everything @ persianrose has said already. Overall I enjoyed it, not least of all because of LJK. He's pretty good IMO.
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dramalover4ever
September 28, 2020 at 3:27 PM
@persianrose @LJK and @stranger and @heyomayo I agree with you.
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persianrose❤️战哥
September 28, 2020 at 3:30 PM
I really love your summary of FoE! Very well written
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dramalover4ever
September 28, 2020 at 3:40 PM
You are absolutely right about it being a psychological drama about love and healing and also about it showing two different sorts of love - one that restores a person to themselves and one that keeps a person sick and stops them from facing the consequences of their actions. For me, it actually gives keeping Baek Hee-sung on life support a whole new world of meaning.
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19 miss h
September 28, 2020 at 3:58 PM
I groaned when the amnesia trope reared its head, but they made it work. I said this in the WWW thread, but I felt it let ‘Hee Sung’ and Ji Won end things and Hyun Soo and Ji Won start anew. I really loved the conversation in the car and the fridge full of egg tarts. Lee Jun Ki and Moon Chae Won were amazing and really made me feel this story of a marriage.
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jillian
September 28, 2020 at 8:20 PM
I like how you said that fake Hyun Soo and Jiwon ended things. So now its time the real Hyun Soo and Jiwon start their relationship. "Hee Sung" was too perfect and fake anyway so its time Jiwon know her husband for real.
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20 loveblossom🌸
September 28, 2020 at 6:43 PM
The finale was subdued compared to the rest of the drama, which made sense with Hyun Soo getting a quiet restart to his life. I just wanted the ending to be stronger somehow.
There were a few tidbits that weren't explained further like Ji Won mentioning her possibly murky past. Was she just joking? And the late info about Hyun Soo not remembering anything before the age of 10. What was that about.
It was cool to see him and Moo Jin back to their awkward, not-always-friendly relationship. Getting on each other's nerves. (Omg, the fridge full of egg tarts was sad and funny at the same time!) Hyun Soo's quietly menacing remarks. Lol
The way Hyun Soo is acting now is like his true personality. He doesn't put up a facade like before, but he's also not innocent. He doesn't have the kind, happy, perfect husband image anymore, which is a good thing. I like that Ji Won and Hyun Soo can begin again and be real with each other. Go through the good and bad together because they are committed to their love.
The story of Hephaestus was a really lovely touch.
Lee Joon Gi impressing me is nothing new, but he was very incredible in this role. He maintained the ambiguous nature of Hyun Soo well. I have only seen Moon Chae Won in a couple of unlikable roles so I'm pleased to see her great acting chops here. Thanks for the recaps & comments, y'all! ♥
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jillian
September 28, 2020 at 8:15 PM
i agree Lee Joon Gi is impressive in this role. I always kbew Moon Chae Won is really good since I have seen her in Princess Man and Nice Guy. Her more recent roles were quite forgettable ao I am glad she did really well here. She said it herself in an interview that she exerted a lot of effort to portray Jiwon.
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underdevelopedbutterfly
September 29, 2020 at 9:19 AM
I think Hyun Soo not remembering things before he was 10 was because of psychological reasons too. I think, he still remembered his father and sister after he lost his memory at 10 years old, but we've got no scenes between him and his mother. He could've witnessed a traumatic event such as his mother dying by the hands of his father or his father made him do something extremely terrifying, or what, but that's my conclusion after seeing that he suffered from a temporary lost after the brawl at episode 15, in which, he thought his beloved wife had died.
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21 jillian
September 28, 2020 at 7:58 PM
Thanks for a wonderful recap, @teriyaki!
I wholeheartedly agree that Hyun Soo and JiWon belong together. It was heart breaking seeing them apart. When watching this, I felt like the temporary amnesia is his body's way to cope from his extreme pressure and stress of everything that has happened. The constant apprehensions and desperation to cling to his family and fake identity took a toll on him.
Hae Soo was right, it is only him who will find the right path. I am very happy that he found his way back to the family that he cherishes above all.
I also think that their reunion was too short. But I will take what we can get. That ending scene of Jiwon and EunHa hilding HyunSoo close to them spoke volumes on how much this small family love each other. ❤❤❤
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22 Maq
September 28, 2020 at 8:26 PM
I rolled my eyes so much throughout this episode. Really really disappointing, as far as I'm concerned.
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Eazal
September 29, 2020 at 9:41 AM
I feel your pain.
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23 Maq
September 28, 2020 at 8:45 PM
I think Eun-ha says, "Appa", not "oppa"!
Also -- and I apologize for the digression -- the story about Hephaestus from the end gave me flashbacks to the logic classes I took in undergrad. (Gottlob Frege, a logician who played an important role in revitalizing and re-conceptualizing the study of logic, wrote a paper called "On Sense and Reference" which tried to reason through the philosophical problems created by identity states. An example he used to illustrate the kind of sentences he was interested in studying is the phrase, "The morning star is the evening star", which later philosophers re-translated as, "Hesperus is Phosphorus".)
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alasecond
September 28, 2020 at 9:20 PM
You start and end your day with home/where comfort is..
BUTTTTTTTTTT.. he divorced his wife :P (the god)
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Maq
September 28, 2020 at 9:32 PM
"You start and end your day with home/where comfort is" <--- Aww, I didn't think of it this way, but you're right! This is really cute.
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Maq
September 28, 2020 at 9:56 PM
Identity propositions**, the kinds of propositions**
I say re-translated because the original English phrase was a translation of a German phrase.
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24 axis3
September 28, 2020 at 10:52 PM
Thanks to TeriYaki for the finale recap.
I totally agree with you on both the standout scenes in this episode: "Hyun-soo couldn’t take his eyes off of Ji-won as she watched the rain and their breakdown in the car after Hyun-soo went all dark and twisty on her." These two scenes really evoke a sense of meloncholy for me.
Overall I liked Flower of Evil. The pros? Fast pace and the intensity of the plot serves it well. The cons? Probably too much unnecessary crying in some scenes hahaha
All the characters are well acted out (including Moo-jin...the one character that I don't like from the start. Yes, he's the comic relief, but his motive of doing things don't earn him plus points from me :P). Special kudos to LJK & MCW for their performance here. They're really good.
It's not common for a show (be it western or asian) to have the main leads or 2nd leads to start off as a couple and end the show still a couple so it's nice to see that this show started off with a kiss and literally ends with a kiss as well :)
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25 candilane
September 29, 2020 at 2:59 AM
I actually didnt cry until the end when he told the story about the Ugly God and how he loved his wife and we understood what the name of his shop meant. Ji Won was always Hyun Soo's happiness, Ji Won and Baek Eun Ha were his constants.
Also, one mystery we never found out is Did Do Min Seok kill Hyun Soo mother? Also, why was he wondering around the woods aimelessly and had no memories before a certain age? I always thought he witnessed his mother death and blocked it out. Did they explain this? Did I miss it?
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Yuna
September 29, 2020 at 7:52 AM
It was mentioned in 2 flashbacks by HaeSoo and Do Min Seok. First flashback was Haesoo and Hyunsoo outside, where Haesoo mentions that their Mom had run away. Later (I believe it was in Episode 13 near the end), we see a flashback where Do Min Seok warns Hyunsoo to not trust anyone and that his wife ran away after finding out who DMS really was.
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underdevelopedbutterfly
September 29, 2020 at 9:24 AM
I think I missed something about his mother death. I remember in episode 7, the villagers wrote that Hyun Soo did not even cry when they discovered their mother died. I was not sure if his mother was found in the basement. It was still not clear to me. But, my conclusion after seeing that he had a memory lost after the brawl at episode 15 where he lost his rational thinking and believed that his wife had died, the memory lost of him at age 10 could be because of witnessing or doing something extremely terrible. My two cents is that he could've seen his mother being killed by his father, but you know, that was too dark and extremely terrible.
I will rewatch the episode to understand some of these mysteries too.
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26 underdevelopedbutterfly
September 29, 2020 at 9:12 AM
Lol the comments of 'few' people being disappointed because Do Hyun Soo is not a monster they thought him to be. If you want to watch a hardcore thriller that steps and spits on morals, then do yourself a favor and put your time on other dramas.
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CL
September 29, 2020 at 6:24 PM
Honestly I'm surprised that those "few people" even finish watching this drama. Usually you would drop a drama if you don't like it. It was told from the very beginning that Flower of Evil was 80% melo and 20% suspense so why act all disappointed when Hyunsu is not a crazy psychopath you think he is?
I personally LOVE this drama partly due to the fact that I'm a sucker for melo drama and it has been a while since I seen a good melo drama with A++ writing and storytelling.
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Anon
September 30, 2020 at 8:00 PM
Right?!? I only started watching after I was certain from recaps that he wasn't a killer. I wanted to see a meaningful story about a husband and wife growing together in the midst of incredible hardship, and this drama knocked it out of the park. It was so beautiful, and really exceeded my expectations. Hyun-soo was such a wonderfully and consistently written character, it was rather bemusing to see how many people thought he'd changed, when for me, you could see his entire story arc in that first moment in ep 1, where Moo-jin recognized him, and his expression barely changed, but his eyes turned red and filled with tears of fear and sadness and bone deep regret. It was so clear that this was a person, no matter how repressed, who was struggling with seriously intense emotions that he didn't know how to parse, and the story developed him, Ji-won, and their complex relationship so wonderfully. This drama didn't really make me cry, as I was often too caught up in the heart pounding suspense of it all, but that last scene in the workshop, that got me. When he said "I'll show you lots of love from now on" I lost it. And the kiss...bruh. I feel like romance is always the last thing that draws me to a show, but these two LOVED each other, and at the end their love was so palpable it made me cry for real. Seriously, this show is going down as one of my all time favorites. And I'm so happy to find the folks who truly loved it sprinkled among those who were looking for something else. 🥰
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27 underdevelopedbutterfly
September 29, 2020 at 9:42 AM
I loved the finale, so much, especially the kiss scene shared by the leads! It was...wonderful. I can feel the pain, the longing, the sadness, the desperation and the happiness, like wow! I've never liked a kissing scene this much. In fact, I am not a fan of kissing scenes, but this one, the emotions are overflowing, the acting is amazing, the shot is beautiful, the music is incredible!
Plus, I also loved that hug scene at the end where he Hyun Soo smiled.
This whole finale is about Hyun Soo rediscovering that he wasn't a monster all by himself as he start over again. So yes, the memory lost was a big gift and a start of his healing journey. I know his brain was suppressing his painful memories and it's a sign he's extremely in pain, but I do believe that because of the support, love and opportunity that was given to him by his family and by other people, he'll be able to buy time to solidify his sense of self before the painful memories came back to him. He'll be extremely supported by his family and he would be able to do that to himself too, not unlike before when he was still in hiding. The memory lost paved way for him to love and broke down the prejudices he have against himself. Cheers for Hyun Soo's new start and healing journey with his family. I'm just glad that he was braved to admit and realized that he can't do it alone, he needs his family. I'm no fan of memory lost, but, this drama did it swiftly, realistically and perfectly. But I would agree by the one who wrote this review that his journey towards going back to Ji Won should have been longer. Nevertheless, I loved the drama. I gave it a 10/10 because I really appreciated it and was extremely stunned by the acting of the casts especially the leads and the villains, how well-written the script was, no scenes were a waste, the healing was delivered perfectly, and how the drama was not extremely dramatic but the subtle emotions are there and it hits you naturally and the cinematography and directing was beautiful.
Back on my thoughts with the ending, I've cried very ugly during the last episode and I've got an extreme headache and I thought I was going sick. It's not an exaggeration, tho.
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Amused
September 29, 2020 at 8:28 PM
Me too. I cried a lot starting from ep11 to finale. Got so carried away by the characters of Hyun Soo and Jiwon. They were written so beautifully and acted perfectly. Lee Joon Gi was phenomenal in this role and and Moon Chae Won was also brilliant.
I definitely enjoyed the roller coaster ride of this show that left me with so much impatience and desperation everytime each episode ends. I was wrecked but then made whole again.
I think this has been the best Kdrama I've watched so far in the recent years. Not only that I love the actors but I also love the direction, the plot twists and effective use of cliches, I love the dialogues, even the OSTs.
This is one of the dramas that will be hard to forget for a long time. Its even better than IONTBO bec there was never any boring or dragging part.
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Anon
September 30, 2020 at 8:30 PM
Yeeeesss to everything you said about that kiss. I'm also pretty indifferent to kissing in dramas, but that one, man. The love between them was so beautiful, so intimate, so vulnerable, so raw, so real. It'll take a long time to find another screen relationship to match this one.
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28 soulsearch12
September 30, 2020 at 7:05 PM
THIS SHOW!!! Whatever the show had in the beginning took a turn in a diff/albeit predictable direction. However, LJG's performance is amazing and a memorable role in 2020 K-drama land. Wish this went the Dexter route, but alas I think having him murder would've caused more strain on his family unit. In the end, he got what he deserved which was a family/people who cherished him. One thing, why were all the women minus FL in this show in jail?! I think that the FL was overtly emotional at times, times I got, and other times I was like "OMG girl, pls time/place." But at the same time, if I was married to a crazy, maybe I would react the same lol? Sad that his sister wasn't able to have one last proper dinner with her brother and his wife and kid. Enjoyed it despite it turning into a makjang in Ep 11-15. Loved it overall, and def. MCW is the best wife/partner ever!
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29 previewqueen
October 1, 2020 at 12:04 AM
While the amnesia troupe is overused in dramas, I did feel like here it was used as an actual plot device that helped move the story forward rather than just being thrown in to create tension or conflict for no reason. In fact, HS needed to be "reset" in a sense. Plus it brought forward the issue that HS subconsciously struggled with, which was firstly, could JW love him as he is or only the pretty picture he had painted over the years. This was his own self doubt of anyone possibly being able to love him that had been fed and nurtured in him since he was a kid.
Secondly, he needed to see that he had always loved her. It wasn't that he grew to love her as he used her, or was so used to going through the motions of loving her from his act. He needed to be able to see that despite his lies, on the contrary, she was his everything.
The amnesia allowed him to strip back all of the artifices he had developed when he started living under his false name. Cause he forgot everything till right before he started living is fake life. Thus it was HS before he trained himself to act a certain way and became comfortable being someone rather than himself. Thus when we see him mesmerized when he sees her happy because of the rain, we can see that his reaction is pretty much the same as on their first date. That emotion foundation for their relationship was real, and was not conjured up so he could use her. He feels guilty and terrible about lying to her for so long. That is why he pushes her way, it isn't that he doesn't feel like he deserves her, but rather he does not feel like there was anything real from his side of the relationship. Since the emotions are supposedly fake, what reason or right does he have to stay with her, despite how drawn to her he is.
Also, that fake identity is why he is so reluctant to find this person he had become with JW. Why search for someone who in a sense did not exist?
Thus we see when he sees the name of the workshop and what he has written, it is the proof he needs to realize, that the man he had become was not fake. Which is why he says he now wants to find out who he was before he forgot everything. Because buried beneath the lies was someone who was real and is perhaps worth knowing. This is later rewarded when he hugs his daughter and remembers the love he had for her as a baby. This then cements the fact that despite the mess, he had somehow found and created a life that perhaps he had always longed and wished for.
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Anon
October 1, 2020 at 2:27 AM
Reading this made me teary eyed again. So well articulated. I also was annoyed at the amnesia plot for a sec, before realizing how wonderfully written the final arc was, and how well it fit into Hyun-soo and Jiwon's story. The writer has a truly brilliant way of spinning tropes that can feel hackneyed, but then repurposing them in subersive way. Hats off to her for her brilliant work.
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Amused
October 1, 2020 at 4:50 PM
I think that's the best explanation of the use of the amnesia troupe. And I couldn't agree more how effectively it was used in Hyun-Soo's rediscovery of himself in this last episode.
Needless to say (but I'm saying it anyway) I am completely satisfied with that ending when the three of them hugged together and Hyun Soo realizing how much he loved his daughter and wife and what he could be losing if he didn't come around. The ending couldn't be any more perfect than that. A fluffy ending that some people want would not fit the theme of this drama.
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30 iszy
October 1, 2020 at 12:20 AM
sorry i have a question why did do min seok commit sucide, was the reason explained.
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Morning glory
October 1, 2020 at 8:00 AM
Nope. He was killed by BHS. Witness by the last victim who is still alive.
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31 dola
October 2, 2020 at 8:41 PM
this genre was definitely lee joon gi forte. since the time between dogs and wolf, he always deliver the best.. totally my cup of tea. :)
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32 Precious
October 29, 2020 at 4:01 PM
I always love your thoughts on the recaps. Watched this and remembered why I love Lee Jon gi.. Spectacular drama
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33 Jiwoni
November 15, 2020 at 3:46 AM
Can somebody please enlighten me? On the voice recording of Baek Hee Song when he said the village foreman died because he was nosy, did he have something to do with it? It was Hae-su who killed the village foreman, right? Why did Baek Hee Song mentioned that in that voice recording?
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SL
November 30, 2020 at 9:40 AM
BHS didn’t have anything to do with the death of the village foreman. He only used it to scare the witness. It was indeed Hae Soo who killed him in self defense. That’s how she knew the recording was not made by Hyun Soo as he knew the truth too. It also helped reveal that DMS had an accomplice who was someone else.
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34 gracie11
January 10, 2021 at 1:58 PM
At first I didn't know how I felt about the amnesia in the last episode. However, now I think it's very fitting and makes sense. First of all, I realized that it's not like it came out of nowhere- the writers already showed us with Jung Mi Sook that a certain amount of trauma will break the mind, which is why she lost her memories if I recall. Hyun-soo was already damaged and fragile so I think his mind was pushed to its limit; the psychological damage also contributed to his amnesia along with the physical damage.
Also, like a lot have already said, it gives the characters a fresh start. They had already overcome some of the lies, but Hyun-soo had been using a façade for years and years. Even with his true identity known, he might not have been able to just suddenly stop putting on an act around his family. Now he can really be his true self, and mentally start over while his feelings guide him for the first time.
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35 Orinteam
November 19, 2022 at 10:04 PM
Thanks for the recaps and input as usual.
I enjoyed the beginning of this drama but did not like it starting with ep12+. Am I the only one who thinks HyunSoo is a super jerk? He just keeps on taking, lying and keep breaking JiWoo's heart over and over again. A healthy relationship is where two people shares everything and work together to overcome hardships. HyunSoo and JiWoo were doing just that midway into the drama, but HyunSoo decided to start lying again and hurting JiWoo. Seriously he just keeps taking taking taking away from their relationship, where JiWoo is the selfless one who keeps on giving HyunSoo chances to change. Youth trauma is an excuse, he would try to find ways to be sincere and stop lying for once if he really cherished JiWoo. Also, why did HyunSoo have to go ask his fake Baek parents what JiWoo meant to him? Why did he have to have *other* people tell him how he felt? seriously.....
Think about someone like HyunSoo in real life, someone who keeps lying and only admitting to it after you found out the truth. Then suddenly does an 180 degree and becomes someone else. After a while they come back apologizing only after going through some thinking. Rinse and repeat... I mean, wth? I for one, will be super pissed if I knew someone like that. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. This is where the character development falls completely flat here. I was hoping HyunSoo would develop into a more sincere honest person at the end of the series, but from the vibes he gives me shows that he may suddenly lie and turn into someone else again.
I would've wished to see MiSook have a reunion with her dying taxi driver husband who never gave up on her, and also HyunSoo re-proposing to JiWoo sincerely.
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36 Sud
March 15, 2023 at 3:24 AM
There is only one think i wanted to add. One is that even without his memories she still wanted to be with him.only reason why she left him was coz she wanted him to b happy
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37 Mamas Boy
June 7, 2023 at 7:27 AM
The penultimate episode felt like a finale (in terms of pacing and action), and the finale felt like an epilogue. It’s like the series came to a screeching halt during the finale. It was so anticlimactic that I watched it at 1.5 sped – just to get it over and done with. I’d give the first half of the series a 9/10 rating, but the rest felt like a 7/10.
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38 redfox
June 27, 2023 at 1:41 AM
as I have finished this drama 3 years late, I cannot say I liked it. I mean, it made me so friggin angry. My sense of justice was boiling. It was a good drama but to someone overemotional like me, it can be a bit tough. I felt so strongly how unfair everyone had been to Hyun Soo that I was pissed and cursing and taring paper with my teeth. But Lee Joon Gi and Moon Chae Won reassured me it is going to be ok.
I also have to say: damn, Lee Joon Gi and kids! Put him with a child, he tops everyone! He has a very good raport with children.
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