Flower of Evil: Episode 7
by LollyPip
As new evidence surfaces, more people become interested in finding the murderer’s supposed accomplice, though not all for the right reasons. Someone has something to hide, someone has something to disclose, and someone is just trying not to get pulled back into the past.
EPISODE 7 RECAP
In 2005, Do Hyun-soo woke up after being hit by a car to find himself in someone’s home. He’d torn out his IVs and limped to the living room, where he’d seen a large portrait of the family who’d taken him in — an older couple with their adult son.
The house seemed empty, so he’d gone to the master bedroom closet and started stealing anything he could. Dr. Baek had walked out of the secret doorway carrying a tray of bloody bandages, and when Hyun-soo made a run for it, Dr. Baek and his wife had both chased after him.
Back in the present, Hee-sung is home from the hospital. He and Ji-won spent last night in very intimate activities, but in the morning, Ji-won wonders if Hee-sung had no choice but to do the things (she believes) he’s done. She thinks, “All I want from you is just one thing. A reason to forgive you.”
She reaches out to touch his face and he grabs her hand, startling her, but he just says he had a dream. Ji-won gives him a new watch and lies that the police couldn’t find his lost one after his kidnapping.
At breakfast, Hee-sung mentions that the lock on his workshop’s basement door is broken. Ji-won fibs that she did it while looking for Eun-ha’s old baby walker to give to a friend. Hee-sung stifles his alarm, and Ji-won pretends she didn’t find anything of note down there.
Meanwhile, Moo-jin and his coworkers marvel at the astronomical number if views he’s gotten on social media for a video he made regarding the voice recording of a possible accomplice in the Yeounju murders. There are thousands of articles being written based on his video, and his phone is ringing off the hook.
While looking over the Baek family register, Ji-won reviews what she already knows — that Do Hyun-soo has been living as Baek Hee-sung for fourteen years, and that the real Hee-sung’s parents have been in on it. She overhears a pair of students watching Moo-jin’s video and watches it herself, and hears the altered voice telling Mrs. Jang that she saw him the night Mi-sook was kidnapped, but that he saw her, too.
In a flashback to May 12, 2002, we see that Mrs. Jang has gotten into a fender-bender with another car. She’d been drinking, so she’d offered the other driver her phone number in hopes of settling. Suddenly, Jung Mi-sook had burst out of the vehicle and attempted to escape, but the driver had talked to her as if she was his wife and had drunk too much, and had taken her back to his car. Mrs. Jang had gone to the police and the vehicle’s license plate was matched to Do Min-seok’s car, but Hyun-soo had provided a solid alibi, with evidence that they’d been at the movies together.
In a convenience store, Hae-soo sees Moo-jin on the news talking about the events of that night. He says that Do Min-seok committed suicide two weeks later, and that Jung Mi-sook’s thumbnails were found in his workshop with those of his other victims. The case was closed, and not long after, Do Hyun-soo disappeared after killing the town foreman.
The voice recording is played again, and Hae-soo looks downright terrified. She starts to run out of the store and bumps into a man who drops a bottle of wine, and the bright red splash reminds her of the blood when the foreman was killed.
Hee-sung seems to be the only one not watching the broadcast — he’s in his workshop, replacing the broken lock with a strong new one. He returns upstairs just as Ji-won is watching the end of the broadcast, and she offers to play the accomplice’s voice for him, but he says he’s too squeamish to listen to it.
Ji-won asks Hee-sung to set aside some time for her tomorrow then heads to bed. As soon as he’s alone, he goes outside to listen to the voice recording. He calls Moo-jin, who’s out celebrating with his coworkers, and tells him to stop implicating Do Hyun-soo and look into the idea that the accomplice may be someone else.
Moo-jin drunkenly objects to being bossed around by Hee-sung: “From now on, this case isn’t your life. It’s my life.” Hee-sung practically begs Moo-jin to believe him, but Moo-jin belligerently asks, “Or what? You’ll lock me in the basement and threaten me again?” and says he can’t trust Hee-sung.
Having seen the news report, Dr. Baek calls Hee-sung to his office for a lecture about keeping promises. Hee-sung says he thought Dr. Baek would be glad he didn’t kill Kyung-choon, but Dr. Baek says that’s not what this is about. He plays the voice recording and asks if the voice is Hee-sung, and when Hee-sung nervously denies it, Dr. Baek says he doesn’t believe him.
He says this is the cost of not keeping his promises, and that he wants to trust Hee-sung again. He suggests they make another promise — if Hee-sung’s true identity gets this close to being revealed again, he’ll leave and go where nobody can find him. Dr. Baek vows to take care of Ji-won and Eun-ha if that happens, and says it’s to avoid the worst possible outcome: “I’m sure you know what that is.”
Moo-jin ends up sleeping it off at his desk, and his boss wakes him in the morning when Do Hae-soo walks in and offers to do an interview, but only if it’s with Moo-jin. Moo-jin hides under his desk (ha) and his boss tells him honestly that he looks like hell. He begs her to go buy him a fresh shirt, shyly explaining that Hae-soo is his first love and that he hasn’t seen her in seventeen years.
Meanwhile, Ji-won requests to see the videos of counseling sessions that Do Hyun-soo underwent as a child. She’s shown one video where he meekly confesses to throwing a dog into a well to drown, then says that he actually wanted to hurt the dog’s owner, “But I couldn’t kill a person. The body is harder to get rid of.”
Ji-won asks the counselor if Hyun-soo could have been born with antisocial personality disorder, so she’s shown a second video in which Hyun-soo flew into a rage and attacked one of the doctors. The counselor points out a cassette player on the floor and says that it triggered manic episodes in Hyun-soo.
Ji-won knows that the cassette recorder (and the fish tile charm attached to it) are in the bag she got from Nam Soon-kil’s wife so she listens to the tape in it. She calls Soon-kil’s wife and asks why Soon-kil thought Do Hyun-soo would return for the bag. She says that Hyun-soo obsessed over the cassette recorder inside the bag, but their call disconnects before she learns any more.
Moo-jin manages to get cleaned up and sits at a cafe with a very quiet Hae-soo, utterly failing at small talk. He notes that she’s changed a lot from the laughing girl who was always surrounded by friends and she says that finding out her father murdered seven people will do that to a person, then he asks about her job and she says she got fired. Ouch.
Hae-soo abruptly says that they need to go, pointing out a guy nearby — it’s one of the reporters who’s been bugging Hae-soo to reveal where Hyun-soo is hiding. Moo-jin is all ready to confront the guy until Hae-soo gives him a wide-eyed look and says she wants to be alone with him.
Ji-won takes Hyun-soo’s cassette recorder to the Chinese restaurant’s owner, who recognizes it right away. She asks if he knows about the tape inside, and a flashback shows Hyun-soo listening to the tape on the restaurant steps. The owner had reached for one earbud, curious to see what had Hyun-soo so engrossed, only for Hyun-soo to nearly twist his arm off.
The owner tells Ji-won that whenever Hyun-soo listened to the tape, he would get a strange look in his eyes like he was possessed. Ji-won says that she came to ask him a favor.
Ji-won’s mother drops off Eun-ha at the pharmacy and asks Hee-sung’s mother to watch the little girl for a while. Hee-sung’s mom refuses, but Ji-won’s mom leaves her anyway. Eun-ha chirps that Grandma will get attached to her eventually, hee, then sits to do her schoolwork.
Hee-sung’s mom notices that she’s using a math workbook well above her grade level, but Eun-ha says she’s capable of the advanced work. She bursts into tears when Hee-sung’s mother rips the workbook apart, yelling that it will make her go crazy and kill her and her mother. Okay, lady’s got issues.
Eun-ha wails that she’s scared, so Hee-sung’s mom tries to comfort her, saying that she’s only doing this for her own good. She asks Eun-ha what she wants, and Eun-ha hiccups, “I want… I want a tart! Buy me an egg tart.” LOL.
Hee-sung listens to the recording of the accomplice’s voice over and over again, and he notices a repetitive clacking sound in the background. He tries to recreate the clacking but nothing matches up, so he listens again and also hears beeping.
He quickly closes his laptop when Ji-won comes into his studio and sets his old duffel bag on the table. She tells him that she plans to catch Do Hyun-soo, and Hee-sung hides his true reaction and asks how. She asks for his help and takes out the cassette recorder and a sketchbook, which he picks up at her urging.
While Hee-sung innocently flips through his old sketchbook of metalwork ideas, Ji-won thinks, “I can be like you, too. I can lie to you without even blinking.” She says that Do Hyun-soo might still be doing metalwork and asks Hee-sung to check with his association to see who makes similar designs to the sketches.
Thinking fast, Hee-sung says that he’d need to see Do Hyun-soo’s actual work to determine his style. Ji-won agrees and asks him to come to Do Min-seok’s old workshop with her, since Hyun-soo apparently spent a lot of time there. She heads out to the car first, and Hee-sung clutches his chest as if he’s having difficulty breathing.
HAHA, Hee-sung’s mom totally caved to the tiny tyrant’s egg tart manipulation. First she tells Eun-ha to eat quickly so she can get back to work, then she softens and tells her to take her time so she doesn’t get sick. Eun-ha promises not to tell about the ripped workbook so that her dad won’t yell (Mom: “Who yells at who??” hee).
On the way to Yeoungju, Hee-sung asks Ji-won why she’s working so hard to find Do Hyun-soo. She says she’ll get a special promotion if she catches Do Min-seok’s accomplice, and although they smile at each other, they both look troubled.
Moo-jin takes Hae-soo back to his place and opens a fancy bottle of wine against her protests. While he babbles, Hae-soo looks around and mutters softly that she’s glad to see he’s doing well. Moo-jin admits that he thinks about Hae-soo often, and that he believes she’s the biggest victim as the only normal person in her family.
He says he didn’t mean what he said when they broke up, and Hae-soo drinks her wine in one gulp. She tells Moo-jin that it’s not Hyun-soo’s voice on that recording, but he thinks she’s just protecting Hyun-soo and spits that he’s living his own life and not even thinking of her. But Hae-soo says that it can’t be Hyun-soo, because she killed the village foreman.
It’s dark when Hee-sung and Ji-won arrive at Do Min-seok’s old workshop, and Ji-won says it feels like once she goes in, she’ll never come out. Hee-sung remembers a day when he was young — Hae-soo had cut a notch in a tree and told him that when he was that tall, she’d find their mom for him.
She’d said almost angrily that if he doesn’t eat, he won’t grow tall enough. Their father had come outside and motioned Hyun-soo back in, and Hae-soo had told Hyun-soo to just agree with whatever Dad said “Or he’ll make you copy the ‘Myeongsim Bogam’ in the basement.”
The workshop door is locked, so Ji-won climbs in through a window. She finds a small metal turtle on the floor and asks if Hyun-soo could have made it, but Hee-sung says it’s cast from a wax carving, not engraved. Ji-won points out that Hyun-soo would have been young and has probably improved, but Hee-sung counters that they can’t know that for sure.
He sighs that they came all this way for nothing, but Ji-won insists on seeing the basement where the murders happened. Hee-sung doesn’t want her going alone and takes the flashlight, and Ji-won surreptitiously checks her firearm as she follows him.
When they get to the basement, the cage where Min-seok kept his victims is still there, and Hee-sung reels at the lingering stench of old blood. While he’s staring at the cage, Ji-won pushes Play on his old cassette player, and the sound of a girl’s voice humming echoes through the room.
Ji-won tells Hee-sung that she found the cassette player in Do Hyun-soo’s bag, and Hee-sung asks why she’s playing it now. Ji-won says that it triggers Hyun-soo into violent episodes and wonders why, adding that she thinks it was recorded here where the unthinkable happened.
She says she’s still baffled by why Do Min-seok started killing, and she muses that he might have even made his young son deliver food and water here to his victims. In a shaky voice, Hee-sung says he wants to leave now. But Ji-won continues that this recording must have reminded Hyun-soo of the things he’d done, which is why he would blow up when his listening was interrupted.
She says she’s expecting the owner of the Chinese restaurant to meet them here with some of Hyun-soo’s more current artwork. He calls to say he’s five minutes away, and while they wait, Ji-won internally urges Do Hyun-soo to show himself. “Make your choice. What you do today will determine our future.”
Hee-sung struggles, then jerks and drops the flashlight. He steps towards Ji-won, making awful choking, gasping noises, and grabs her shoulders. She’s got her hand on her gun, and Hee-sung’s hand goes to her throat, but then he collapses to the floor and stammers that he can’t breathe.
He begs Ji-won to get him out of there, so she helps him back to their car, where he says he thinks it was the smell making him sick. Ji-won worries that she was too hard on him, but she reminds herself that he lied to her for fourteen years and tells herself not to be weak.
When Ji-won spoke to Nam Soon-kil’s wife earlier, she’d said she was having a ceremony for her husband at his restaurant. Hyun-soo and Soon-kil’s old boss shows up at the restaurant and asks where Ji-won is, saying they were supposed to meet. Oh wow, it was a trick.
On their way back to Seoul, Hee-sung asks Ji-won to stop looking for Do Hyun-soo. He says it’s too dangerous, but she counters that that’s why she needs to catch him. Hee-sung lies awake late into the night, thinking about Dr. Baek making him promise to disappear if his identity is almost discovered.
Moo-jin also has trouble sleeping after his conversation with Hae-soo. She had brought up his connections with her family — he’d admired her father, he was Hyun-soo’s only friend, and was the only person who’d liked her for herself. She’d apologized for not thinking about how he felt back then, and had sobbed at Moo-jin to stop harassing Hyun-soo.
Hee-sung shows up at Moo-jin’s door and asks Moo-jin to help him find Hae-soo. He apologizes for threatening Moo-jin and gives him the recording he made of Moo-jin confessing to his fraudulent online posts. He asks Moo-jin again for his help, growling that he needs to find “that bastard” no matter what.
Back at their house, Ji-won is also up. She’s on the computer, tracking Hee-sung’s location through the device she had installed in the new watch she bought for him.
COMMENTS
It’s so sad to see Hee-sung and Ji-won lying to each other and mistrusting each other so much, though it’s understandable. Things are getting really heated up now that Ji-won knows that Hee-sung is really Do Hyun-soo. I respect that Ji-won isn’t sticking her head in the sand (or “taking the pill,” like she said previously that she would do if she learned something sinister about her husband)… she’s pursuing this issue with everything she’s got. But so is Hee-sung, in an effort to clear his name even if he can’t live under it.
It’s interesting that Ji-won isn’t going to much trouble to hide what she knows from Hee-sung — I think she wants him to come clean to her so that, like she hopes, he can give her a reason to forgive him. I think that Ji-won is hoping that Hee-sung is innocent, having known him to be a good man for so long, and I can’t blame her. The troubled, violent Do Hyun-soo she’s learning about sounds nothing like the happy, caring, loving man she married. We’ve seen Hee-sung do some pretty horrible things, but I still want to justify that he only attacked Moo-jin and Kyung-choon when they attacked him first, and that he did let them both go on their promises to help him.
I completely agree with @TeriYaki, I don’t think Hee-sung has ever killed anyone. I think that he learned how to be frightening from his father, which made him good at threatening Moo-jin and Kyung-choon. And I think that he’s definitely got some serious issues that go back to his childhood, but who wouldn’t with a father like his? Even if he didn’t know about the murders until after he died, Hee-sung doesn’t seem to have had any sort of normalcy growing up — a murder basement would mess anyone up and make them super wary to open up or care about anyone.
I was right about Hae-soo having killed the foreman, though I’m giving her the hard side-eye for confessing to someone she hasn’t seen in decades. I’ll even take it one further…. I think that Hae-soo may have been the only murderer in the family. It’s possible that she started killing at a young age and that Do Min-seok was covering up for her, and maybe he killed himself because he couldn’t handle the guilt anymore. Looking back, when Hee-sung imagines his father’s spirit, those black eyes do seem a little sad, and we still know so little of what actually happened that I’m open to any possibilities.
As for Hee-sung, he’s proven himself to me. In that moment in the old basement, surrounded by haunting memories and the smell of death, he battled with the worst of himself and won. He could have easily killed Ji-won, but he stopped himself, and that’s enough to show me that he does love her. I now trust that if it came down to protecting himself or Ji-won, he would choose Ji-won. As a cop, I understand that Ji-won still has a mystery to solve, and I think she’d do the right thing if she found that her husband was guilty of murder. But I don’t think it will come to that, because I think he’s innocent, and I hope they team up to catch the real killer.
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1 jillian
August 23, 2020 at 2:25 PM
EunHa is absolutely adorable in this episode. Her scenes with fake grandma is gold. I love her loyalty to her parents. On the workbook, trying to protect fake grandma and those omelettes.
Eunha may have seen something in that house and can report to her dad later, hopefully.
Steamy start to this episode and we can clearly see Ji Won's conflict as she make love to her handsome husband. The conflicted emotion continued in the morning after. I like that she is looking for a reason to forgive him for lying to her for 14 years. But it will not be easy for Hee Sung to suddenly tell her the truth after 14 years of hiding it. The man is in constant fear of being found out and losing the family he has cared for and unknowingly love. He obviousky fears going to jail for a crime that we now know he did not commit. In doing so, he will implicate a sister that he dearly cares for. Such a tough spot for Hyun Su. Go to jail or allow his noona to go to jail instead. Either way he will be damned.
Obviously her constant goading only drove Hee Sung crazy. I suspect that he knows that she knows but really can't bring himself to say anything because she will be in a tougher spot than he is already in.
I wonder how they will resolve this.
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jillian
August 23, 2020 at 2:35 PM
Thank you for the recap @lollypip!
I am convinced thay Hyun Su is not a killer and he loves his family although he does not realize it since he does not process emotions like normal people. As for Hae Soo, I sure hope she is not a serial killer. But I dont like that she kept quiet while Hyun Su was being hunted down for a crime that he did not commit.
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Eazal
August 24, 2020 at 1:35 AM
I totally agree with you about Hae Soo not being the killer.
I've always thought there was someone else.
These deaths are not known by the public, and they were wrapped up really fast by police... conspiracy of someone important involved?
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jillian
August 24, 2020 at 1:46 AM
Very possible that its someone important or police just wants to wrap it up quickly to avoid negative press.
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Junie Bug
August 23, 2020 at 2:39 PM
Whenever Eunha shows up on the screen, she has my full attention. She's such an amazing addition to the family and I love how her character is both a benefit and hindrance to Jiwon and Hyunsoo's marriage because they absolutely adore her but then don't want to ruin their family dynamic for her. Regardless, she's definitely a favorite character whether as a person or plot device LOL
I'm also really curious on how everything's going to go down between Hyunsoo and Jiwon. There's so much tension between the two of them and I'm expecting some confrontation in future eps but I'm so scared on what the aftermath is going to be like.
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jillian
August 23, 2020 at 2:52 PM
I love Eun Ha! Also best example on how exemplary her parents raised her. I still think that she will be Hyun Su's saving grace if his mental health will be questioned anytime. He appears to be the primary caregiver so had most opportunities to rear her. Hyun Su has been meticulous in raising her well eventhough his logic with the doll was questionable.
I am also curious how Ji Won and Hyun Su's main issue will be resolved. There will be confrontation definitely, hoping it will be epic. I welcome the aftermath if it will not involve killing each other. 😆
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Junie Bug
August 23, 2020 at 3:19 PM
I could definitely see that happening. He's influenced so much of Eunha's actions and thought processes that I'm sure she'll be the one to keep him from falling over the edge. Now, that's a scene I'd love to watch.
The aftermath is going to be something else because I'm not sure how they'll recover from this, especially on Jiwon's end. It's gonna be a ride for sure!
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Kafiyah Bello
August 24, 2020 at 5:05 AM
I mean there are tons of ways he can show he cares, an example being when all that stuff was falling he took the brunt of it to protect her. He could have let her just be hurt. No one would have been the wiser. He just needs to show his love language isn't words but actions.
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Junie Bug
August 24, 2020 at 7:48 AM
I agree! Prior to the big reveal, I think it was obvious to Jiwon that he did care and she saw him care for herself and Eunha. But, the fact that she’s been lied to for 14 years is making her question if that caring was sincere and not just a part of that lie. That scene in the cellar when Hyunsoo almost breaks but doesn’t is incredibly powerful because of that. Since Jiwon knows more of the real truth, she’s able to see how much she’s pushing him and how he’s reacting. She’s been told that he gets violent whenever that player is introduced and he almost does, but is able to stop himself and not inflict pain on the person he truly cares about. I‘m hoping that action in itself is key in Jiwon realizing Hyunsoo isn’t bad or evil but just hurt.
WaywardHistorian
August 23, 2020 at 3:51 PM
I have to admit that when Ji-won's mom dropped Eun-ha off at Crazy Granny's pharmacy I wondered if Ji-won's mom wouldn't have been better off letting Eun-ha play with power saws. It was a nice subversion of my expectations to see Hee-sung's mother transition away from the stock unhinged MIL character.
I think Eun-ha's forays into the Baek house (Besides giving us scenes that further show that placid Grandpa is far more dangerous that screamy Grandma.) was more likely to be about reporting to Ji-won rather than Hee-sung. Hee-sung already knows about the original Hee-sung being in a coma in the closet, so Ji-won's the one that needs to be looped.
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jillian
August 23, 2020 at 4:02 PM
You are right on that count so Ji Won will know the goings on inside the Baek housebold and possibly investigate why he has taken over the identity. But would be nice for Hee Sung to know how she was treated by the fake grandparents.
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Kafiyah Bello
August 24, 2020 at 5:01 AM
I just want to say, you have said everything I wanted to say about this episode. Lol, thanks.
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2 Junie Bug
August 23, 2020 at 2:29 PM
I don't even know where to start on how to describe my emotions throughout this episode. I kept going back and forth between who I felt for more, Jiwon or Hyunsoo. It was just a constant state of fear and worry as I didn’t want either of them to hurt.
Jiwon was so passive aggressive in this ep and I honestly loved it. MCW did a wonderful job portraying the hurt, anger, concern, disbelief, and the mix of emotions Jiwon was going through. Her every action made sense and were backed up by the wide range of emotions she felt after finding out that her husband really isn’t the person she’s spent 14 years with. She knew exactly how to push all of Hyunsoo’s buttons and she was doing such a good job, I was getting really worried in that cellar. As a character, Jiwon depends on the facts and I love how the writers have worked that into these last couple eps. She’s investigating everything and although she may be a little too obvious with her actions, she’s sticking to her beliefs. It’s also as if she’s trying to find that one piece of evidence that names Hyunsoo innocent and affirms that everything they experienced together wasn’t all a lie.
But, at the same time, I was feeling sooo bad for Hyunsoo. Throughout everything, he was putting on a brave face and smiling through the pain, anger, and whatever emotion he was feeling. I was getting mad at Jiwon at times because she was pushing his buttons too well and I couldn’t stand seeing him go through that pain. Even if he knows what Jiwon is trying to do and understands that she knows more than she’s letting on, I feel like his general love for her and Eunha is causing him to not come to terms with the fact that Jiwon knows something. He’s trying to maintain this near perfect life he’s created for himself and has developed these feelings of love and adoration beyond as a means of survival, so having all of those walls just being torn down is something that he both never expected and now never wants. I’m never going to stop praising LJG on his acting. That scene when Hyunsoo is about to choke Jiwon was absolutely spectacular. Hyunsoo has this tendency to inflict pain on people near him when he gets triggered by his trauma but it took everything (and I mean absolutely everything) in him to keep him from hurting Jiwon. The emotions that came through were beyond belief and just says so much about who he is and who he cares about.
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Junie Bug
August 23, 2020 at 2:29 PM
With that being said, my favorite scenes in this ep all happened at the end in the cellar. The hurt and nostalgia Hyunsoo was experiencing going back to his house and reliving those memories with his sister and hearing his wife play what I’m assuming is his mother’s song and possibly her last time singing it was very palpable. I was honestly near tears, especially during that entire interaction with the song. The nuances in the facial expressions and the delivery of the lines was just perfect and worked really well together. That entire sequence had so much tension between Jiwon and Hyunsoo that it was hard for me to get through those scenes but I couldn’t take my eyes off the screen.
Also, why do I not believe Haesoo when she says she killed the foreman? I mean, I’ve thought she’d done it for the longest time. I don’t think Hyunsoo did it and it makes sense if Haesoo killed him because he made a move on her or something, but now that she’s said it with her own mouth, something about it just seems off. Maybe that’s just my overthinking getting in the way and developed disbelief in anything anyone says in this show. But, I love that she truly cares for Hyunsoo and that’s so obvious from almost every single one of her scenes both in the present and past. I know that she ends up joining the team and there’s going to be that beautiful scene when they discuss their game plan (Yes, Hyunsoo is really pretty lol), but I’m really curious how their whole team dynamic is gonna work with her. And, that tracking device… oof but good for you Jiwon. Another thing: since Jiwon desperately wants Hyunsoo to confess and tell her everything and Hyunsoo is innocent, I’m hoping Jiwon joins the trio of misfits somewhere down the line and adds her detective expertise to proving Hyunsoo’s innocence to the world. I’m not expecting that anytime soon, but I’m just imagining the fun shenanigans that would come from that haha
Finally, Eunha is such a cutie. She can thaw anyone’s frozen heart and she’s so mature for her age, it’s incredible. The fake grandma quickly fell prey to Eunha’s personality and I’m hoping we have more scenes with the two of them because we’re already seeing some character development on that end and I love it. Eunha is a scene-stealer and I want to see more of her!!
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Eazal
August 24, 2020 at 1:39 AM
You may be right about HaeSoo... I mean, the kidnapper told the witness the foreman was dead because he was nosy... so...
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Junie Bug
August 24, 2020 at 7:53 AM
I guess my biggest qualm with the whole idea of Haesoo being a murderer is the fact that I don’t think we’ve seen that dark side to her yet and that’s throwing me off a bit. The darkest we’ve seen her in her youth was at the scene of the foreman murder but even then that was the aftermath and we don’t know what truly happened.
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lillamy
August 24, 2020 at 12:28 PM
That tape bothers me quite a bit because I think that sounds just like the way a teenage girl would express herself. That over-confident, nonchalant tone.
I don't think she's the accomplice the show i currently searching for, but I do think she had way more insight into her father's activities than Hyun-soo did.
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Junie Bug
August 24, 2020 at 6:28 PM
Yeah I agree with that. The way their sibling relationship is makes it seem like Haesoo aims to shield Hyunsoo from bad things and it would make sense if she was being protective of him whenever their father was around because she knew more about what he was doing. I realllyyy wanna know more about her haha
drabea
January 19, 2021 at 5:42 PM
"I know that she ends up ....."
Why do people watch ahead, go back to previous recaps and include spoilers in those comments?
1. "the fact that she’s been lied to for 14 years "
2. "after finding out that her husband really isn’t the person she’s spent 14 years with. "
3. "affirms that everything they experienced together wasn’t all a lie."
Those seem to me to be really strong, judgmental statements.
I believe there is a definite right and wrong in some things, but there are also some things that are more complex, and observers don't always know or comprehend all the variables in those.
1. I have to give HS some grace, because, iirc, when they had known each other for about 2 years, she had been chasing him in a way I probably wouldn't want my daughters to do, and he tried to tell her about himself, which she didn't care about and didn't want to hear.
I don't think he was maliciously lying to her.
After she didn't want to know his background, their marriage could be a new, fresh beginning for him to build something good.
2. He mostly is the person she built a family with.
I think that her love allowed his real self to "bloom" and gave him the security to develop behaviors and attachments that his traumatized youth kept buried.
His early "difference" could be some possible natural shyness or restricted affect, an insecure "shell", or just plain lack of good, loving and accepting experiences at critical developmental stages.
The tormented and confused and unsupported kid that sometimes lashed out was a reaction to hurtful circumstances.
Those lacking-to-terrible early experiences and others' opinions and unfounded rumors don't condemn him to a lifetime being a feared, despised pariah.
Our past does not define our future.
Ask Abraham Lincoln, George Washington Carver, and many others.
3. To think that "everything they experienced together" could be a lie, seems to me to be some overly simplistic, emotional exaggeration.
Being hurt and confused is one thing, but to discredit all the goodness as a sham without a lot more information and communication is just wrong.
Again, he had circumstances and concerns that she never had. They are a partnership, not one fused person.
I know a woman who has never told her husband that she had a nose job before meeting him.
I don't think that is such a big thing, but it is to her, and that undivulged personal detail doesn't invalidate the marriage and family they now have.
Finally, I think that only a person that hasn't lived with someone who is passive aggressive could make a statement like,"Jiwon was so passive aggressive in this ep and I honestly loved it.".
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Junie Bug
January 19, 2021 at 6:09 PM
Let me start by saying that when writing that phrase you mention at the beginning, I didn't intend for it to be a spoiler and I actually had written this post prior to seeing the following eps. When following a drama on DB, I like to write down my thoughts after watching each ep and then read the recap while adding to/editing my post. So, the way I intended the sentence to be read was more in a "because Haesoo and Moojin had that meeting and Hyunsoo wanted to find Haesoo, I know that she's going to end up joining the team". It was just a prediction and I absolutely hate getting spoilers and avoid recaps of eps I haven't seen like the plague at times, so I do understand any frustration reading that statement caused and I apologize for that.
As far as your responses to my wording, I'm going to be honest, I'm a senior in high school and definitely don't have any worldly experiences since I've barely begun my life. So, I may have exaggerated or included very subjective statements in whatever I post. I treat these things as sort of "stream of consciousness" posts, so I just brain dump all the emotions and thoughts I have on the topic.
I really liked this drama in the sense that there were so many nuances to each conflict and relationship. You really had to think beyond surface level as to each character's motivations. But, you're right, I missed out on a lot of the underlying characteristics of each relationship.
Re: the passive aggressive comment - the reason for my saying that was more so because I hadn't seen a K-drama character act in the way Jiwon has in this drama, so I enjoyed the change in pace that MCW brought to the character. I understand that when being faced with passive aggressiveness, it's absolutely annoying and dreadful. I've met my fair share of passive aggressive people (despite not having lived with one). It was merely the seeing a FL act like this when I've seen numerous MLs do so that attracted my attention.
Thanks for your comment!
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jillian
August 23, 2020 at 2:41 PM
Oh that scene in the basement, It did take a lot from him not to hurt Ji Won. Such amazing acting from LJK and MCW of course. I can not stop praising this two.
The fact that Hyun Soo was able to extricate himself out of a confrontation with Ji Won is masterful. But ai do wish they will get to have that talk next week.
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Junie Bug
August 23, 2020 at 3:23 PM
I haven't seen many of MCW's works and I've seen a few of LJG's but this has to be a favorite of theirs. Everything about their performance has been spectacular and I just love it. They're portraying their roles so well!!
Jiwon's constant pushing stressed me out to no end and I felt so bad for Hyunsoo and I felt even worse during that scene. If that doesn't show how much he cares for his family and specifically Jiwon, I don't know what else would. Superb job on both Hyunsoo and LJG's parts.
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jillian
August 23, 2020 at 3:48 PM
If you will check out MCW's previous works, I recommend Nice Guy/Innocent Man and The Princess' Man. I dropped Criminal Minds and Fairy (whatever that title was) since I didnt like both. Not sure if you will be into it,
JI Won was definitely pushy that she drove Hyun Su nuts. I felt really bad for Hyun Su all throughout but I can't blame Ji Won.
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Junie Bug
August 23, 2020 at 6:07 PM
I remember that I started watching Innocent Man but I didn’t get very far. I’m not sure if it was because of the plot or just me not having time, though. It’s still on my watchlist but I don’t know when I’ll get to it haha
Yeah, Jiwon’s actions definitely made sense and I understood why she did what she did but it hurt a lot to watch Hyunsoo go through that.
3 Anon
August 23, 2020 at 2:36 PM
Thanks for the recap!! It's always fun to see couples fall in love in dramas. The meeting, escalation, etc. But a well done portrayal of marriage kind of takes a next level step up, in terms of intensity and emotional involvement. Maybe it's cause I'm getting older. I've seen a lot of good romances, but nothing I can think of was more compelling than this relationship.
I think I'm so accustomed to more emotionally simplistic reactions in dramas, the complexity of this couple just floors me. Again, in another show, after Jiwon found out about Hyunsoo, she would have most likely dropped him like a hot potato. Kicked him out, kept him away from their child, never wanted to touch him again, etc.
But the thing is, despite his deception, as you said, in some ways she knows him so well. I think what's unusual (and really cleverly and written) about their relationship is the fact even though there's a major lie at its center, it was still built on a certain degree of emotional honesty. Normally in these dynamics, the deceptive party was deceptive in totality. Completely charming, seemingly perfect, and definitely the initiator in the relationship. The person's true personality was never revealed, and when the facade is removed, the person truly is a stranger to their partner.
But here, Hyunsoo was NOT completely deceptive from the jump. Aside from the lie of omission about his true identity, he was fairly honest with her in the beginning. Jiwon did the initiating and the pursuit, and Hyunsoo was far from charming. He was obviously and unabashedly odd. he was standoffish, (seemingly) paranoid, socially awkward, and constantly fleeing her advances. He was also forthcoming about his violent proclivities, and the fact that he considered himself to be mentally unwell. So Jiwon had an idea that the person she was getting involved with a bit different from the start. So beneath their various facades there was a foundation of emotional honesty, and the effects of that honesty seem to be what's holding them together, because the person she's learning about now is in some ways consistent with the young man she met.
This is especially true of the childhood tapes. He already confessed to Jiwon that he felt a bit good commiting acts of violence. She already saw him getting triggered and freaking out (both when he saw his father in the rain on their first date, and when she first confessed that she liked him). So despite her learning these new things about him, there's still a significant part of his behavior that doesn't come completely as a surprise, because they it's consistent with what he was like when he met her. And I think she can see that, in retrospect, though she may not have taken it seriously back then.
Because of this, as wild as it seems, there's still an intimacy and a trust between them, beneath the surface. Which was why I found the intimate scene between them to be surprisingly moving. There's just too much...
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Anon
August 23, 2020 at 2:38 PM
(cont'd) between them to just walk away yet, on Jiwon's end. I really hope they can grow together, because that's what's at the very heart of this show.
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Peppibow
August 23, 2020 at 3:47 PM
Agree with you.
Ji-Won fell in love with the real Hyun-Sun, he already had his fake identity but still, she learned how 'awkward' he actually was but still kept chasing him.
So, I think her problem is not his fake identity (it still was a big shock to her), it's that he lied to her all those years.
She can't trust his words anymore, and I think this is one of the biggest challenges he has to face: showing his wife that the love he feels for his family were never lies.
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Eazal
August 24, 2020 at 1:42 AM
Totally agree with you.
HyunSoo as HeeSung never lied to JinWon about his personality. He told her from the beginning he liked what he did, beating people, getting into trouble, he was not nice or kind to her in the way you expect a guy to be nice. But she was attracted to him and continued to push until he said yes.
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CS
August 24, 2020 at 2:41 PM
I think you're right on what makes this couple so compelling. There is a lot of emotional honesty there. It's a really contrast to the scenario from World of the Married. That deception was darker. That wife didn't know who she'd married. Hyunsoo is still Hyunsoo, and now Jiwon just needs to figure out that a rose by another name still
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4 froyo
August 23, 2020 at 3:24 PM
what i get from Jiwon is she is angry because Hyunsoo lied to her more than he is a serial murderer son or a murderer suspect.
i feel so so so sad about both leads. i feel bad for Jiwon because she feel like she has to keep proving something, keep attacking his husband quitely. i feel bad for Hyunsoo too, he has to clear his name and take his wife's attack without being seen when he is suffering.
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Esther
August 23, 2020 at 3:44 PM
I actually praised Ji won for still acting okay and getting intimate with him. That wasn’t an easy feat after such reveal, the silent attacks did hurt so bad.
Ji won going to that place with HyunSoo while armed really made me sad and more because I understand Ji won’s reaction to be prepared for anything that can happen.
They’re both just so pitiful. 😔
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froyo
August 23, 2020 at 4:26 PM
We as viewers can see and understand why both lead did everything they show us right now. Thats why they are so so pitiful and this whole situation is horrible.
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WaywardHistorian
August 23, 2020 at 4:08 PM
I suspect that part of Hee-Sung/Hyun-soo's character arc is to learn that not only is he capable of feeling emotions after all, but also that he has more people on his side than he ever suspected.
The show's hook may be the creepy killer, but the core is more about identity and trust. Even though I have a few suspects regarding the accomplice, I'm far more interested is how Hee-sung and Ji-won reconcile who he his with what their relationship is.
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Anon
August 23, 2020 at 7:19 PM
Agree with you 100 percent! Part of what's so compelling about his situation is the fact that he truly believes what he's been told about himself. He keeps saying he's incapable of feeling the emotions that he clearly feels, and has felt for many years. He believes that he's not "normal" and examines all of his impulses and feelings through that lens. I.e. if he's feeling it, it must not be a normal, or real feeling. Or if he's expressing it, is must not be a valid expression of emotion. He's been so invalidated, that he really needs to learn that his feelings are real, that they're valid, and that they should be respected, instead of used as grounds to ostracize and punish him. (I still have huge issues with Moo-jin, on that front, but more about that in ep. 8.)
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5 Peppibow
August 23, 2020 at 4:06 PM
The theory that the sister is the murderer is interesting, but if she's truly the one, I don't think she would have immediately revealed that she killed the village foreman.
I would love the murderer to be a woman, but I totally don't know how it fits with the fact that a man abducted Mi-Sook and gave the fish key to Hyun-Sun's sister. But The fish key could serve as a red hering, to make us think the man and murderer are one and the same.
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6 tabong
August 23, 2020 at 4:16 PM
Okay, I had the idea that Ji Won was kinda "weird", that she was different and she also had secrets, etc but damn the another side of her that we just saw was really scary.
I can understand that she felt betrayed and that she wanted to know if he helped his dad or not, but she didn't have to go psycho and turture him to the point that he had a panic attack. Jesus woman.
Btw, I love that HS loves his family so much and wants to understand JW that he ask to the guy that tried to murder him (don't remember his name) how he felt when his wife died, and he's trying to catch the real murder so he doesn't have to go away like he promised to his fake that.
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Peppibow
August 23, 2020 at 4:40 PM
Yeah, Ji-Won has some mystery around her.
She teased Hee-Sung in earlier episodes that she has a difficult past. And she also had mentioned to him that she "seduced" him. I thought it was meant as a joke but maybe she really did.
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Eazal
August 24, 2020 at 1:44 AM
I agree with you. While watching this episode I couldn't stop thinking the real psycho is JiWon not HS.
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7 miss h
August 23, 2020 at 4:19 PM
Ji Won and Hyun Soo took turns breaking my heart.
So the cassette player was a trigger. His mother's voice? His violent impulses appeared to have started after her disappearance. Or at least public ones that got him put in the psychiatric center.
Eun Ha's scenes with fake Grandma certainly gave insight into that family dynamic.
Something that caught my eye: The wallpaper on Ji Won's cell was the purple flower from the opening credits.
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Peppibow
August 23, 2020 at 4:34 PM
The same flower?
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WaywardHistorian
August 23, 2020 at 4:59 PM
It's definitely the same image.
I suspect it ties into not only the opening credits, but the name of the metal shop.
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Esther
August 23, 2020 at 5:00 PM
@The last line: Off to rewatch....
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miss h
August 23, 2020 at 5:09 PM
It's when Ji Won is on the bus and hears the teens talking about the accomplice.
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Beverly
August 23, 2020 at 5:05 PM
Yes, I noticed that for the first time too.
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loveblossom🌸
August 23, 2020 at 10:24 PM
Yes, I noticed the flower too!
I've been wondering what the title Flower of Evil is referring to. I initially assumed it was about Hee Sung when the promos & teasers were first released, but now it could be a reference to Ji Won's character. Maybe she isn't innocent and is hiding a dark secret behind a pretty facade.
Or it could really be Hee Sung because of his "flower boy" look and he's been fooling us. 🤣😱
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Cc
August 24, 2020 at 11:42 PM
That's actually my initial theory. Haha Since flower usually a metaphor for women and title actually refering to her.
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Eazal
August 24, 2020 at 1:45 AM
It was you!! I mentioned it on my comment bellow.
We talked about this in the beanie wall, that her wallpaper was the same flower... maybe it's she the flower of evil?
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8 anastassia
August 23, 2020 at 8:47 PM
THIS SHOW IS SUPER BRILLIANT..so tight, intense and unpredictable..
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9 transient
August 23, 2020 at 9:32 PM
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10 transient
August 23, 2020 at 9:33 PM
I'll have to say that the Do siblings are so beautiful, as confessed out-loud by Kim Moo Jin
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11 Eazal
August 23, 2020 at 10:18 PM
I still don't think Hae Soo is the killer. I also believed from the very beginning that she had killed the foreman because he had tried to abuse her, but I don't think she's the killer. I may agree that DMS was not a killer: I said it from the start, there is another killer out there, and DMS can be only the scapegoat.
I had this feeling while watching that JiWon has this little touch of psycho. I mean, she's kind of torturing HS with her investigation, and she's enjoying it. She's faking her smiles and tying to everyone. And I don't buy it's just out of love for her family.
As a beanie pointed out in another comment (I can't remember who), her phone screensaver is the flower in the opening credits... is she the flower of evil?
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cozybooks
August 24, 2020 at 11:19 AM
I... did not notice that (@ the flower). I also think Ji-Won has a bit of a darker streak, although she doesn't seem to acknowledge it herself... I wonder though, would her being the "flower of evil" mean that she is evil herself, or that she's the flower the "evil" (meaning Hyun-Soo) ends up wanting to protect?
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lillamy
August 24, 2020 at 12:47 PM
I don't get the feeling she's enjoying punishing him, she's too tense around the eyes to give me that impression. I believe it's rather her moral justification of getting to the bottom of things supersedes whatever sympathy she might have for him.
She's definitely not a people person though.
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Beverly
August 24, 2020 at 12:58 PM
I didn't think she was enjoying it either. She is definitely hurt and angry, but i also think she needed to try and see for herself if the killer part of himself can be triggered to come out.
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Beverly
August 24, 2020 at 1:01 PM
Also, I was cheering her on as much as I wanted her to stop. I kind of love that it seems like she has realized he will believe any expression she shows him. Before she let herself be an open book to him because she trusted him with all of her emotions.
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12 cozybooks
August 24, 2020 at 11:13 AM
Oh my heavens SUCH a good episode. Last week was a GOOD WEEK for this show. I can't help but wonder how much Hyun-Soo is assuming Ji-Won knows... because while she's not being very discreet there's SOMETHING up, I don't know that he'd jump straight to "she knows". I hope they all get on the same page soon, though... and that he does something worthy of earning her forgiveness soon. ... it'd probably take something pretty darn big, though.
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WaywardHistorian
August 24, 2020 at 3:04 PM
The easiest way (writing wise) for him to perform an act that earns her forgiveness is the old "pushes Ji-won and/or Eun-ha out of the way of a truck-of-doom". The thing is, I doubt that's how the plot is going to go. Ji-won pays attention to the little things, like mismatched shoes, or a baby walker.
My theory is that (along with a little honesty on his part) it will wind up being those little things that earns Hee-sung/Hyun-soo some grace from Ji-won.
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cozybooks
August 25, 2020 at 1:11 PM
I could see that... and I hope, I *hope* that he comes clean with her before it all just gets revealed due to circumstances. That would mean a lot to Ji-Won, I think.
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WaywardHistorian
August 25, 2020 at 2:15 PM
I agree that Hee-sung/Hyun-soo ought to come clean with Ji-won *before* circumstances force his hand. The difficulty would be getting around a lifetime of defenses.
His consistent for 7 episodes has been to protect his life as Baek Hee-sung, but I don't think he realizes that what he's really protecting is his life with his family rather than the identity. I think he will need to be convinced [somehow] that letting Ji-won in is the only way to keep his family.
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13 lillamy
August 24, 2020 at 12:34 PM
Thanks for the recap, Lollypip!
This episode just hurt in a lot of ways, my heart just tore for Hyun-soo in the basement, Ji won went all the way in pushing his buttons. But I do understand why, she's deeply hurt and desperate for him to act in any way that helps her make a decision on how to progress. She believes what she sees, the show is constant about showing this trait in her.
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14 persianrose❤️战哥
August 24, 2020 at 2:14 PM
This drama is a gem among recent kdramas:
1- So far, every episode got better than the previous one.
2- All actors (not just the main one) are doing a very good job... their characters are very unique, therefore they're showing such unique acting skills
3- Characters are so layered and their every move is so unpredictable... Honestly I'm not yet sure who is normal and who is psycho
4- The drama doesn't disrespect viewers' judgment like most of the procedural dramas does... it's not giving us any pre-determined hero or evil
5- The visuals: everything is so beautiful... the cinematography, beautiful open shots and great lighting, the realistic fashion style, the decoration in all the sets, etc.
6- Very beautiful and well-matched OSTs
7- I haven't finished any k-dramas since WWW, keeping my finger crossed that this drama keeps the good quality till the last episode
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15 parkchuna 🍉
October 31, 2020 at 6:19 AM
Woah DB give links to shop in recaps now?
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16 Edgar Pordwed
December 10, 2020 at 8:30 AM
What a great episode.. Ji-won is angry for being deceived for so long but she also loves him.. don't know how she is keeping it together.. I am all for the efforts shes taking to get to the bottom of this.. but I felt relieved that she didn't actually call the restaurant owner there. Isn't she scary too? Moon Chae-won and Lee Jun-ki are incredible.. individually and together! I wonder which character will break first if this continues. This one is my favourite episode so far.
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17 The Travelling Gourmet
February 13, 2021 at 8:59 PM
The screenwriter has written an overly complicated story that is really UNBELIEVABLE! Pathetic Hee sung is such a Stooopid man that keeps on doing stoopid things. No sympathy for hee sung at all. I hope they all get punished by their bad karma at the end.
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