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I’ll Find You on a Beautiful Day: Episode 5

Family matters come to a head as our protagonist’s mysterious mother makes a surprise trip to her hometown. There’s so much unresolved in this family where each member tries to silently deal with their own problems to everyone’s detriment. For our heroine, her years’ worth of simmering anger over her mother’s lack of communication finally bubbles to the surface. Is it too late to mend such a fraught relationship?

 
EPISODE 5: “Noblewoman from the West”

Standing face-to-face with her mother SHIM MYUNG-JOO (Jin Hee-kyung), Hae-won recalls walking down that same path as a child with her mother. We flash back to when Myung-joo was questioned at the police station. An officer asked if her husband’s death was an accident. Myung-joo sat there with a battered face and freely admitted it was intentional.

At her sentencing, the judge only gave her seven years as her crime was considered impulsive and the result of habitual abuse. As Myung-joo was led away, she took one last look at Hae-won. Hae-won attempted to visit her in prison, but Myung-joo refused the visitation and the letters she sent.

The next time Hae-won saw her was at her grandmother’s funeral. Myung-joo had paid her respects amid the gossiping attendees and walked out without sparing her daughter a glance. In the present, Hae-won silently walks behind her mother down the path. Meanwhile, Eun-seob wakes to an empty bookstore and goes searching for Hae-won. He gets a phone call.

Myung-joo and Hae-won arrive at Hodu House as Myung-yeo is giving instructions to the crew working on the house. She stops short when she sees her sister. Myung-yeo explains about the damage to the house, saying it’ll be fixed in two weeks. Myung-joo orders her to fix it in three days.

Myung-yeo is uncharacteristically acquiescent and meekly agrees to talk to the contractors again when Myung-joo asks if she should handle it. Myung-joo asks where they’re staying. Before Hae-won can intervene, Myung-yeo says that she’s staying with Soo-jung while Hae-won is staying with Eun-seob.

Myung-joo pauses at that, and Myung-yeo offers up, “Eun-seob is a man. Soo-jung is a woman.” Ha, she just sells Hae-won out without hesitation. Hae-won quickly clarifies that she has her own room. After a brief silence, Myung-joo wonders where she’ll stay. Myung-yeo is sure Soo-jung will let her crash with them for a few days.

Myung-joo chides her for shutting down the guesthouse. How will she make money? She walks off. Well, it’s clear who’s the boss in this family.

When Hae-won gets to the bookshop, she tells Eun-seob her mom is in town. Inside, she shares that she only sees her mom twice a year: once in summer and once in winter. They go out to eat and have tea, sitting mostly in silence.

Seeing as her mom’s never been overly concerned about her family, Hae-won wonders what she’s doing here. Hae-won finds it strange since Myung-joo hates visiting her hometown and claims it reminds her of her husband.

Over at the high school, Hwi hides behind a bush and waits to “coincidentally” meet her crush Yeong-soo, which she apparently does each morning. She chatters at him while he sighs and keeps walking. Hwi energetically plows on until Yeong-soo reiterates his rejection and asks her not to talk to him anymore.

Hwi laments her misfortunes to Hyun-ji and thinks back to Jang-woo’s assertion that top students like Yeong-soo aren’t interested in dating. Hwi takes comfort in the fact that it’s dating and not her that’s the problem. Right then, a group of girls pass by gossiping about Yeong-soo’s supposed new girlfriend.

At the bookshop, Myung-yeo rants to Hae-won and Eun-seob about the number of aspiring authors she came across in university who fancied themselves one of the greats, the next big thing in literature. She outs herself as the craziest of them all who was only topped in weirdness by her big sister Myung-joo.

Myung-yeo lists all of her sister’s flaws like being mean, scary and having poor communication skills. Hae-won wants her to get to the point. Myung-yeo stands and says resignedly that Myung-joo wants to meet them for dinner. They hop to do her bidding.

While they have a tense family dinner, Eun-seob peruses a bookstore in the city. The owner wants to know if the rumors that Myung-joo is back are true. Eun-seob confirms it, saying everyone’s been asking him.

The owner comments that, in high school, she was beautiful and cold, which was her charm. All the boys liked her. He’d assumed Myung-joo would live a happy life after she married a devoted man and got pregnant.

Hae-won calls Eun-seob after dinner, but he has somewhere to be and tells her to go back without him. Her mom and aunt head off, leaving Hae-won to make her own way back. She stops to get some flowers and, of course, sees Eun-seob through the glass sitting in a café. Is he meeting Min-jung?

Oh, he’s meeting Bo-yeong. Hae-won doesn’t look thrilled to see them together as she waits for her bus. She thinks back to high school where a rumor started that she stole Bo-yeong’s crush Eun-seob. Ooh. We see her sit next to him while Bo-yeong looks on. When they were still friends, Bo-yeong had told her that she had a huge crush on Eun-seob.

At Hodu House, Hae-won finds Myung-joo looking around her room. Hae-won finally asks her mom outright what she’s doing back. It can’t be to visit her or Myung-yeo, and it’s not anyone’s death anniversary. If she left something at the house, Hae-won could’ve had it delivered, although she pointedly acknowledges she doesn’t have her mom’s address.

Myung-joo tries to leave the room, but Hae-won persists. Her mom says her trip back doesn’t have anything to do with her, making Hae-won laugh derisively. She says bitterly she’s heard that dismissal from her so many times. It’s usually something a kid says to a parent, not the other way around.

Hae-won casually reminds her that she’s said that to her whole family over the years. Myung-joo looks bothered as Hae-won asks, “What do we have to talk about? I’m really curious.” What can she even ask?

She gets increasingly emotional as she details exactly what she’s never asked her mom. She’s never asked where she lives or why they only see each other twice a year. Or why she always refused her visits and ignored her letters. Or why she did that to her father.

Myung-joo tells her to stop, but Hae-won continues. Or if she really killed him on purpose and whether she went to prison out of guilt. She never asked any of that. When Myung-joo again gently tells her to stop, Hae-won blocks her way.

“It was hard for me too,” she shares. Even if it was less than what her mom went through, she felt like dying, she says through tears. She didn’t have anyone to ask why she had to go through it all. Myung-joo closes her eyes as Hae-won says accusingly she was left to deal with it alone.

That’s why it makes her anxious when her mom comes so suddenly. She tells her to leave tomorrow and call in advance next time. She leaves her mom fighting back tears. Meanwhile, Eun-seob gets back and sees the flowers Hae-won bought and placed on his desk.

The following morning at Soo-jung’s, Myung-joo is nowhere to be found. Turns out she headed over to Eun-seob’s. To his surprise, she asks to talk to him.

At Hodu House, Hae-won tells her aunt she didn’t find out why her mom’s here, but Myung-joo will be leaving the next day. Myung-yeo is just as baffled as Hae-won as to why she showed up with no warning. Before heading inside, Myung-yeo informs Hae-won the repairs will be finished the following day.

Eun-seob brings Myung-joo a cup of tea as they go out back to talk. He stays standing as she asks if he and Hae-won are friends. She starts to ask him if Hae-won ever … but she stops. She changes topics and says she heard from Myung-yeo he knows someone named Park Hin-dol. She asks him to return a bunch of letters, claiming she can’t do it herself since he didn’t give a return address.

He agrees to return the letters but won’t pass along a message since it’s likely not good news. She agrees it isn’t. He walks her out, and before she leaves, she asks if they’ve met before. He admits they have. “It’s you, then,” she states. She says he’s all grown up now. Hmm…

As she heads to the bookshop, Hae-won sees her mother leaving. Eun-seob catches her eye as she looks on suspiciously. They sit to chat, and Eun-seob tells her he met her mom at a bus terminal when he was around 10 years old. He’d been staring, so she asked what was so fascinating. “You’re pretty,” he replied, and she had cool sunglasses. She’d responded it’s what fashionable people wear (same excuse her sister gave).

He asked if she was a “pretty person.” She smiled and said she was. Did he want to see her with the glasses off? He did. He thought she’d have pretty eyes. She took off her glasses to reveal a black eye. She’d asked if he still thought she looked pretty.

Eun-seob tells Hae-won he thought she was beautiful and doesn’t mention the bruise. Hae-won says she was in a bad mood the day before and admits to being unhappy seeing him with Bo-yeong. Yay for communication!

Myung-joo treks alone through the woods until she reaches a particular tree. She places a hand on its trunk. “Hello. Have you been well?” she asks the tree like she’s Crysta in FernGully.

Myung-yeo pauses while cleaning the floor at Hodu House when she spots a vase of flowers. She realizes something and sighs as she looks at the calendar.

At the tree, Myung-joo lays a bundle of flowers on the ground. “Here are the flowers you like. I got them for your birthday.” They’re camellias like Hae-won bought.

Myung-joo looks over at the spot where her husband had carried a little camellia tree up the mountain and proposed. She’d smiled brightly in response. Myung-joo tells the tree/her husband, “But I still hate you. And I hate this day since it’s when my troubles began.”

At the house, she packs a bag full of clothes. Myung-yeo says she could’ve had them delivered. She tells Myung-joo to call next time so she can go shopping. “I often forget his birthday since it’s on the Lunar Calendar.” They never celebrated it anyway. Myung-joo gets angry when Myung-yeo mentions he never forgot Myung-joo’s and Hae-won’s birthdays.

Before she leaves, Myung-joo notes, “Hae-won seems angry at me.” Myung-yeo replies it’s been that way for 30 years. She tells her she can resolve it if she just does one thing: write Hae-won a letter like she did for her. Myung-joo leaves without responding.

Eun-seob and Hae-won take a walk, and he explains that Bo-yeong called and asked to meet out of the blue. When they met, she’d asked for his help with Hae-won since she wouldn’t listen and kept getting the wrong idea. Seriously?! You have got to be kidding me. She sweetly goes on about how she wants to be friends with Hae-won again like she’s some long-suffering saint who’s been falsely accused.

Hae-won tells Eun-seob she doesn’t like people who don’t take no for an answer. Some think it’s romantic to push, but she thinks it’s selfish to ignore someone’s feelings. Preach, sister. Even if she chooses not to accept someone’s apology, her decision should be respected.

Eun-seob agrees and suggests doing something that’ll make her feel better. They go back to the bookshop where he projects the film The Classic onto a blanket hanging from the rafters. He gazes at her as she watches with a big smile on her face.

As Son Ye-jin and Jo Seung-woo dance on screen, Eun-seob envisions dancing with Hae-won. He smiles at their imaginary figures twirling through the room. Just ask her to dance, Eun-seob! Instead, he goes back to staring at Hae-won some more. Gah.

While Geun-sang reads the poem “Something Small and Trivial” by Ahn Do-hyun, we see a young man from out of town driving to meet his grandfather. Hwi gets into an altercation with a girl at school, and Yeong-soo intervenes when the girl goes to strike her. The bookshop owner recalls rushing to get on the bus and standing next to the popular Myung-joo.

As the book club disperses, Jang-woo notices something is up with Hwi and asks Eun-seob about it. Eun-seob doesn’t know what’s going on either. Jang-woo finds her extreme moods terrifying, and Eun-seob agrees.

When Hae-won says goodbye to Hwi, she gets a dejected response. Jang-woo notes again how scary it is, claiming his mom has given him a phobia of angry women. He goes to leave, and Hae-won wonders what’s been keeping him so busy.

He reminds them he’s heading up the Hyecheon High School reunion in celebration of its 50th anniversary. It’s in two days, and he orders them to both show up. To their amusement, he speed talks through his woes and exhaustion since he’s doing this all by his lonesome.

After Jang-woo leaves, they hear the door again. The man on the way to his grandfather’s pops his head in. He starts to ask something and stops when he sees Hae-won. We flash back to high school when he’d seen Hae-won standing outside the gym. “Wait, you’re Mok Hae-won,” he’d stated to her surprise.

In the present, he utters that same phrase. We get a three-way staring contest as the man stares at Hae-won, Hae-won stares at the man, and Eun-seob stares between them. Looks like we’re in love triangle territory, my friends.

 
COMMENTS

Poor Hae-won has kept so much bottled up for so long, although her mom didn’t exactly give her a choice. I was surprised to see that Hae-won tried so hard to have a relationship with her mom before being rebuffed one too many times. I assume Myung-joo was trying to distance herself from Hae-won to protect her as much as possible from public ire, but she did so in such a cruel way. If that’s what her intentions were, she could’ve told her that. At the very least, she could’ve met with Hae-won once or written her—like Myung-yeo suggested—so Hae-won didn’t feel abandoned and unloved. How is what she did supposed to help her? She not only got ridiculed and ostracized by the world, but her mom cut her out.

Their dynamic is interesting. Like Hae-won pointed out during that emotional conversation with her mom, their relationship is perfunctory at this point. They meet, have a civil meal and part. No wonder Hae-won carries so much anger. She never got an explanation or apology for what she’s been through as a result of her mother’s actions. I’m glad she finally let it out and didn’t hide her pain.

With Hae-won’s personality, I’m a little surprised she hasn’t completely given up on her mom. As we saw with Bo-yeong, Hae-won doesn’t let people get away with doing her wrong. It goes to show how desperate she is for family. Even though she has her aunt, both Myung-yeo and Myung-joo have colder personalities. I don’t doubt that Myung-yeo cares for Hae-won, but she’s not adept at showing it. Hae-won craves warmth and affection which it seems she only got from her grandmother.

As I suspected, Myung-joo was abused. I get the feeling she’s hiding something about the situation, though. Even Hae-won suspects that things went down differently than how her mom said they did in court. And then there’s Myung-yeo’s comment about how Hae-won wouldn’t be angry if Myung-joo explained things to her. It’s all pretty strange. I’m curious about Hae-won’s dad whom we’ve heard little about. We’ve only gotten those flashbacks that showed him acting caring and sweet, as well as the accusations of later abuse. Hae-won doesn’t talk about him, but she did buy those flowers for his birthday. I wonder what her relationship with him was like.

Okay, Bo-yeong was infuriating this hour. Hae-won was extremely clear with her when they talked, yet Bo-yeong accuses her of not listening? I loved Hae-won’s calling out disrespect in the form of someone ignoring your wishes and not listening when you say no. I’m not even sure why Bo-yeong is so set on being friends again when Hae-won wants no part of it. Is it just about Bo-yeong’s need to be right? I’m inclined to think so at this point. Her playing the victim was on full display when she tried to get Eun-seob on her side behind Hae-won’s back. And given that reveal that she’d had a crush on him in school, I’m worried she’ll try to interfere in their relationship now. Not that it will make any difference; Eun-seob is too far gone to be swayed.

I think the same is true of Hae-won, so I doubt the arrival of this new guy will change anything for her. Hae-won isn’t exactly open, but she shares quite a bit about her family and painful past with Eun-seob. It’s obvious she trusts him and feels a connection, and I don’t think that’ll be threatened easily. That being said, maybe this new guy’s interest will light a fire under Eun-seob’s butt. He keeps missing his moments! I hate love triangles a solid 99% of the time, but if it helps Eun-seob make a move, maybe I could give this one a pass.

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I haven’t sweared as much as I did to Bo Young in my entire drama viewing history of more than 15 years. She is so frustratingly dumb and oblivious, like she’s just wanting to feel good for herself rather than being truly sorry for Hae Won.
Mum, Aunt and Haewon’s family is like a first in dramas, though we have yet to discovered their background.
Since, the story is based on a novel, if anyone knows whether it has eng translation, please let me know.
I’d be very thankful.

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BY had continued living with her crush on ES and when HW is back she wants to be cleared of this huge "misunderstanding" to look good in front of him. As you can see those little details of gests tell us more about their owners. She fixed her make-up to look good before going up the stairs and appears very cheerful in front of ES. She is insisting on her partial innocence, etc.

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Totally agree! That small moment where she touched up her make-up spoke volumes.

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I agree! I also think she is insisting on being friends with HW not because she really wants to be friends with her, but because it is an excuse to meet ES. I like your explanation of it because I kept wondering why she did not make an effort to approach or be with ES when HW was out of the picture? Why only after she returned? I was a bit annoyed that ES agreed to help.

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Isn't it interesting that we spent the first almost 9 minutes without dialogue? It was like watching an introspective movie..and I felt like it carried the same weight as Haewon's emotional encounter with mom. I'm glad that she didn't back off right away and said what she needed to say at that moment. At least one side of the misunderstanding is now out in the open. I'm curious what mom is hiding, too.
Then there's our Eunsob. Oh what a sweetheart. He does all the little things that can make a girl happy. I'm sure he is boring his way into her heart by just being there..being himself.. doing the things that make her happy but not really finding credit for it. His warmth is what will melt Haewon's barrier, as you've mentioned that she has become comfortable in sharing her pain and past to him. I'm looking forward to this couple's development.

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I just love the way he loves her. He has definitely succeeded in warming my heart!

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This episode left me annoyed 😑 I’ll blame it on COVID 19 and the delay in shooting from last week. I didn’t find episode 6 much better 😛 Hoping for a better episode 7-8! I want to see more of Eun Seob-y.

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Amazing editing ! It kept me on toes every minute that what's going to happen next :)

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I felt the same way! For a show where not much happens, there is a LOT going on. I feel like characters are dragging massive baggage along with them, so as well as what is happening in that moment there are the things in their pasts that are making them think and feel and behave the way they do. It's all rather deliciously complicated.

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Hae Won's family is pretty unique. They're all the same, very strong and cold outside but we could already see that the aunt and Hae Won care about people around them.

The Mum is an interesting character. She looks so strong so it's curious she didn't leave her husband but stayed until she couldn't and killed him. Seven years is a lot of prison for a person who was abused for years. Nobody can say "no" to her but ES did it very naturally and she accepted it very easily. I liked their conversation, how she recognized him.

For the Hae Won -Bo Young's situation, my opinion balances. Hae Won is right she doesn't have to accept Bo Young. In the same time, Bo Young was young and didn't want to hurt Hae Won, it wasn't intentional. Now as an adult, she should stop playing the victim, but I think Hae Won is punishing Bo Young for more than she really did.

This drama has a way to show you something and answer to the scene after. It forces you to stay focused even if the pacing is pretty slow.

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I find mum very interesting as well. The status of a divorced woman is still very unwelcome in SK. I think that might play a big part in it. But often abused women wish the abuser dead which is logical because that way he can't harm anybody else.

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But divorced woman is still better than murderer... It makes me curious about the father too. Hae Won doesn't seem disgusted by him even if she knows a part of the truth. What the Mum wrote in her letter for her sister?

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Young/Adult bo young still haven’t apologize to Hae won and she wants forgiveness.
They were both young when the incident happened and they were both wrong in one way or the other but as an adult, BY still haven’t learn anything. So I feel the punishment is never too much🙂

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It's amazing that despite the low pace of the drama and the fact that there is not much happening in every episode, times flies when I'm watching it ! Something is done right... This is what I need in times of lockdown...

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Bo Young is the absolute worst. She is the sort of person who is passive aggressive and blamed everyone else for her actions. The fact that she hasn't changed in 10 years is sad. My favorite part is when Hae won points out how incredibly rude it is to persistently pursue someone when they say "no" the first time.(cough cough Yi Seo cough cough) Go away Bo Young, she doesn't want to be your friend.

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Even I thought of Yi Seo during that scene🤣

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I specially liked the scene in which, after Hae-Won's mum killed her dad, she's being interrogated by the police officer and, as SunWoong in Diary of a Prosecutor, is trying to make her say that she didn't kill her husband on purpose, that something happened that she couldn't help to run over him, and she was calming telling him: no, I did it and I knwe what I was doing. That tells me that she's been abused for a long time. But all the flashbacks of him show us a caring person... but yes, people change.

Bo Young is just despicable. She still doesn't take responsibility over her past actions, blames HaeWon because "I want to be friends with her and she doesn't want to", and tries to use EunSeob for her purpose. She's so selfish.

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He might have been "abusingly loving" = incredibly jealous person. He'd never forgotten her and his daughter's birthday, that sounds extremely dangerous to me. She remembers the proposal vows, sadly it was the inverse, maybe that's why HW is reminding her about that promesse.

In abusing relationship, mom tries to protect her child most of the time even from witnessing the abuse . Girls don't react the same way as boys do. There was a case in my country last year when a son couldn't watch his mother getting to be beaten anymore so he went to take an axe from the shed and killed his father. He was sixteen I think and after went straight to the police station to turn himself in. He got 9 years because even if his mom was abused for years regularly he did it as a planned murder. His mom and even his son reported several times this guy to the police but nothing happened, he was known as an extremely nice person.

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Yes, you can have a reduce sentence (as HW's mum did because the abuse was taken in consideration) but still, you committed a crime by taking another person's life. And she did it perfectly conscious of what she was doing, as you can tell from the interrogation scene.
And even if victims of abuse have a point, the solution must never be killing the abuser. I know our guts tells us to do it, but speaking from a juridic point of view (my profesional life revolves around law) you just can't.

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It's only allowed when there's a war on... It's just not good and right when the abusers can get away with only a probation with a promise to not doing it anymore. That's sad.

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The slow pace of this episode made Myung-joo's experiences in the past as something nostalgic, yet I can feel her pain with each and every scene.

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When she realized who EunSeob was, ohhhhh that really hurt for both of them. MyungJoo showed her scars to a child (was it a form of dealing with it or out of cruelty?) and EunSeob learned there's much more behind external beauty.

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He didn't know she was HW's mom. There was this little surprise when he saw her after those years and an understanding he kept inside for her actions.

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My read on the situation is that it was a coping mechanism and a warning at the same time. Everytime we are told of Myung Koi,she is revered as a beauty. It is entirely permissible that her husband married her for her beauty and the abuse might hav been born by the jealousy that followed. Even teenage Myeong joo is shown to be super contained. May be she continued to be 'cold' and the expectation of more and jealousy turne her husban into a habitual abuser. Years later,an innocent boy seems fascinated by her..but again it's her beauty that he wants to see. The act of showing an innocent child a violent sign of abuse is cruel and cold,but also is a warning for the young boy to stay away. There is ugliness born out of beauty, may be.
In their later interaction it's clear that the adult Eun Seob has seen and somehow understood a part of her pain.That whole sequence was reall well done and is an example of the layering done on this show that I'm absolutely digging

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Another beautiful episode, but I did notice a distinct lack of tea-making ;) Also, Eun-Seob-a's little awkward grunts were a tad thin on the ground, and I am a sucker for them!

Some people have commented that the show is too slow, but I personally think it's a masterclass in pacing. These people are in pain and are carrying stories that need to be unravelled inside themselves, and that's going to take time. I love how the show reflects this. The character development is slow and steady, but the payoff will be worth it. The tension between Hae-won and Eun-sob is beautifully done, and the wait to get to the finish line is killing me! Perhaps, I need to get out more? Oh wait... I don't.

I empathised so much with Hae-won in this episode. My heart went out to her, particularly that scene at her grandmother's funeral. Her quiet containment, perhaps because she knew she had not other choice for self-preservation, really broke my heart.

I love all three characters, Hae-won, mum, and aunt - these complicated, strong, but closed-off women. I'm looking forward to learning more about them.

Also, our lovely Eun-seob was a right little smoothie back in the day, wasn't he? 10-years old and he's dishing out the chat-up lines to Hae-won's mum with ease!

P.S. As an avid reader of recaps and comments (which really add to my viewing experience so thank you!) I've just signed up and this is my first comment! Here's to some great conversations and dissections!

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Loved your comments! Glad you decided to sign up.

On the pacing--so agree! What I love most about this show is how many quiet moments we are given to just sit there and FEEL with the characters. Like a couple of episodes ago after she hugged Eun Seob in the forest and they go back home and try to act like nothing is different, and then Eun Soeb finally goes into his room and closes the door and just stands there still and breathes while a million conflicting emotions play on his face. Nothing is rushed. Nothing is slammed in our faces. We are allowed to slowly piece together who they all are and their relationships to each other and their pasts and their desires, like you would if you spent time with someone in real life.

I love shows like this, I don't understand people who call them boring.

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I get what u are saying there is no drama for sake of drama... Thay are letting the characters 'breathe'... It really feels like I reading this drama than watching... Coz it give a book like feeling..

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Beautifully put! I love how the flashbacks and editing showing different perspectives really help us piece together who these people are. Just wonderful storytelling.

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This is the kind of show that definitely needs to be watched in the right mood. There is little dialogue and a lot of show don't tell, a very subtle tone and even if they are showing big dramatic things like domestic violence, I didn't think even one moment was dramatic. It's like watching life unfold for some lonely folks, slow but deep. So clearly if someone is looking only for a grand, dramatic story they'll find it slow. I think the slow moments have enough emotion too to keep me glued. Thankfully they have all good actors to convey that emotion appropriately.

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Bo-yeong if you dont stop with the bullshit...

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At first, I wanted to give Bo-young some leniency because her revealing Hae-won's secret seemed out of wanting to protect her friend but omg, I can't deal with her anymore. I roll my eyes every time she appears. I'm just done with her now.

Anyway, I love the interactions between Eun-seob and Hae-won. Them watching The Classic. ;A;

Hwi is the cutest!

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I loved the movie-watching, for so many reasons: Eun-seob knew just what would help Hae-won, and that was to take her out of herself and her thoughts for awhile, and yet he did it in a makeshift (blanket screen) yet warm and intimate way, with just the two of them. I love how it was filmed, suffused with golden light and the cuts between the dancing on the screen and the dancing in Eun-seob's imagination. Also, it was a chance for him to let down his guard, as well, where he could freely watch her and let his expression reveal what he can't yet say.

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I thought Myung Joo’s backstory was interesting. The first thing I thought when I saw her was: “What is it with the women in this family and their sunglasses?” It broke my heart to find out that she was hiding her bruises behind them. As almost everyone has mentioned she was really cold towards her daughter before murdering HW’s father, during her jail sentence and afterward. I was really surprised that she couldn’t understand her daughter’s anger, that she couldn’t sympathize with what her daughter might have gone through. Perhaps she was still too wrapped up in the hatred and anger she felt towards her late husband as she blames him for the troubles she has experienced in her life. Yet I find it interesting that she blames him and commemorates him at the same time. She is a complex one and boy would I like to know what goes on in her mind and heart!

As much as I found her interesting, I couldn’t understand why we got so much information on her character. Part of Myung Joo’s story set us up for why HW is drawn to ES. But there was more that I thought was given to make us sympathize with her and I just wondered why. Perhaps somewhere further in the story, I’ll find out.

I mentioned it above, I love the way ES loves HW. His love is so beautiful but what is it going to take for him to express his feelings? I was also hoping the new guy would light a fire under ES's butt, but ...

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I think we needed MJ's story very much as well those little glimpses about her dad. HW is very similar to her mom and yet very different. As a beautiful girl she was i cold outside but craving for all the affection and love of the world inside ( I was like that for 26 years and still even if I'm very romantic person inside I'm very pragmatic as well and I prefer that daydreaming on paper or screen 😌 not in a real life). That's why she was touched by that bold proposal and ultimately happy that finally someone dared to brake the supposed thick ice on a lake. Maybe that's why she is still going to see him on that spot for his birthday. Maybe that's why she was giving a cold shoulder to her daughter from the beginning. Maybe HW was recieving all that promised love from her father and she was recieving just punishment for being pretty. The grandmother knew her daughter the most and we can see how broken she was at court. If she was still alive she would have been the missing bridge between them.

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Yes .I too have similar ideas about MJ's story line. In all the recollections people have of her,she is two things - beautiful and cold/strange. My thoughts are that the husband married her for the looks ( they were way too young & his proposal nd general demeanor screamed of infatuation and worship rather than a more deeper connection). think MJ agreed to it for much of the same reasons that you explained so well.
But later on, when she still remained cold/strange, the husband might have wanted to beat her into a certain mold. MJ herself might think that her persona is also to be blamed for her abuse and may be her distancing herself from MW was an effort to not 'pass on' the 'strangeness'?

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I agree with both of you (@kerouregan and @ashes2ashes) on the reason they got married. I also like your theory (@kerouregan) of why she might still commemorate him. What I wonder about is what the things were that caused her to think she was misfortunate from the day he proposed. He beat her. There was a lot of evidence for that. She poured alcohol at the tree and I was wondering if it was a Korean custom or if it showed that he abused alcohol. In all cases, things happened within their marriage that led to him abusing her. She hated him enough to kill him. Yet she still commemorates him. I find it difficult to understand how love and hatred for the same person co-exist in one heart because I have never experienced it. That makes her fascinating to me and really complex, because how does she resolve the loving image of her husband (he who broke the thick ice), the image she hates of her husband and what she did to him within herself? Perhaps she commemorates him out of a sense of regret but hasn’t resolved her hatred for him yet. 🤷‍♀️

Personally, I find HW to be different from her mom. She’s silent and cautious but not cold. I enjoyed the theories both of you mentioned about why there is a distance between mother and daughter. It gave me food for thought and begs for more backstory on the relationship between mother and daughter (not sure yet if it fits within this story).

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Love and hate have a very thin bridge between them. You can cross it so many times until it cracks. With hormonal changes ( women are affected while pregnancy more and after the labor and even more after with hormones keeping their swinging nature unless you control them by birth control pills, but some women can't, don't want them to take for their own reasons) you can experience rage, hate, love, depression in a scale of a drug addict. You can be hurt by words even if it's happening in another time you're not affected. People tend to forget this. Men are affected by hormones as well especially with their diet (too much protein doesn't do much good to them especially mixed with alcohol). They were married very young, they didn't know each other much and there's after marriage life for korean women I don't envy at all. There're so many elements which could cause huge storms in their relationship. I think we are not done here yet. I don't know the proverbs in english much but in my language we say "patience will get you to roses".

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Yaay for communication... I like that she told ES about seeing home meeting BY and he told Hae won about his meeting with her mom before.... For a drama with a lot of reflective silence... Each and every dialogue carries weight... I love it

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"Hae-won tells Eun-seob she doesn’t like people who don’t take no for an answer. Some think it’s romantic to push, but she thinks it’s selfish to ignore someone’s feelings"
That part was written by my soul

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After the premiere I said this feels like a French art house film from 30+ years ago and with episode 5 I'm still getting that vibe. Park Min-young = Catherine Deneuve. One criticism of French art house films is they had a tendency to fetishize the 'beautiful depressed woman', make depression seem somehow exotic and alluring.

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Woah while I may not get that vibe, I do think generally shows that have depressed fl and ml do tend to sensationalize it a little.

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