Drama crimes
by missvictrix
It doesn’t matter how long you’ve been in dramaland. Pretty soon, with even just a few dramas under your belt, you’ll begin to think about drama crimes. Not the hit and runs, the hackings, the frauds, or the breaking and enterings. Not even the murders. Those are all well and good (so to speak), but the kind of crimes we’re talking about here are the crimes the drama itself commits.
How do dramas commit crimes, you may wonder? It’s actually quite simple. Whether it’s an editing flub, an unfortunate bit of casting, a script that nosedives, or a premise that never quite takes off, drama crimes are everywhere. They take many shapes, and many forms. Let’s examine a few, from mayhem endings, to pet peeves, to the most heinous crime of all.
Before we dig into some examples of drama crimes and look at their pernicious and pervasive nature — first, a word on dramaland as a whole. Everyone’s inner critic likes to rise up when they’re watching a show they know can be better. Disappointment over a drama often speaks louder than our praise. Indeed, wasted time and talent are two unfortunate things.
But when did criticism become louder than enjoyment? If we’re not enjoying dramaland, why are we here? I can be just as quick as anyone to eyeroll and groan over a lagging plot or terrible time jump, but at the end of the day, I watch dramas because I enjoy them — sometimes regardless of their quality level.
Everyone has her own level of Drama Forgiveness Factor, and I have to say, mine is pretty high. I can forgive a lot. My suspension of disbelief is readily at hand. Sometimes I argue that the greater the suspension of disbelief required of me, the more I actually whole-heartedly unplug and enjoy the drama (Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim 2 is a great recent example). Sometimes I will even argue why a drama’s poor decisions could actually make sense, if you look at it through a certain lens. And if that fails, I will defend the drama based on what it was trying to do, regardless of how successful (or unsuccessful) it was. In other words, I like dramas.
But do dramas care about my kindness and understanding? I don’t think they do. They rage on with a blind eye towards my forgiveness, continuing to commit crimes large and small. They don’t know “would,” “should,” or “could.” They simply are.
While everyone has a list of drama crimes that drive them the most bonkers, I’m sure there’s some common ground for commiseration in some of the crimes I’ll detail below. This list is by no means exclusive, and merely represents a few occasions where I’ve felt either slapped or laughed at by a drama when I was counting on it most.
One of the biggest drama crimes, for me, is when a drama defeats itself with its ending. With hours and hours of plot and character development (hopefully), and ample time for rhetoric and rules within the story to be developed, why do some dramas tank when it comes to their ending?
Two prime examples come to mind: Gu Family Book which I sorta liked, and W–Two Worlds, which I adored. Both had horrifying epilogue-like endings that destroyed whatever the drama had built. And all it took was five minutes. In the case of Gu, there was the cheap and unconvincing reincarnation(ish) reunion which squashed all the history and emotion that the drama had been building for 16 episodes.
In W, the death of the comic book hero, which was gut-wrenching, awful, and amazing, was similarly destroyed in an epilogue where he magically appears in the real world. Both of these drama-ending crimes tore up what the drama previously built — and didn’t even try to make sense of it. If I disavow the last five to ten minutes of both dramas, I can forgive them.
Speaking of destroying a story’s rhetoric, what about a drama that just keeps making bad decisions over and over again? Or, when a drama makes a poor decision, and then pig-headedly sticks with it, unwilling to change course? For me, a great example of this drama crime was The K2. It was bad, yes, but its baseline badness was underscored with a forced, canned, and uninteresting romance between the hero (Ji Chang-wook) and the waif-like heroine (Yoona).
I know I’m not the only one that watched this drama and felt there was not only truckloads more chemistry between Ji Chang-wook and Song Yoon-ah (instead of Yoona), but fantasized over the more layered, complex, and provocative drama it could have become if only it had made better decisions. However, this is a common drama crime — the safer and more familiar story is usually chosen. And in the case of The K2, this was pure drama crime.
Another drama crime that bothered me for a long time is the requisite time jump before the drama can conclude. In what has been a well-parsed and continuous storyline, all of a sudden when we reach the end of the tale, the drama can’t find its desired ending without a huge time jump.
In my early dramas years I felt utterly cheated by this. It’s a cheap trick, right? They can’t reach their resolution unless they jump ahead, and we’re seeing none of the satisfying growth or progression that gets our characters from the present to the future.
The time jump endings in a drama like Flower Boy Next Door and Oh My Venus made me feel disappointed at first. Why ruin the pacing of the drama and make the audience wait a random one, two, or even three years before everything is okay again? This bothered me for a long time every time I came across it — until I decided to forgive this drama crime.
Rather than looking at the time jump as a cheap trick to band-aid an ending and force a resolution, I began to look at it the other way: healing requires time. Maybe what these dramas were really trying to tell me was that you can’t always have a resolution right smack when you want it. Sometimes, you have to suffer, stumble, and wait it out. Sometimes, it’s not until years later that your scars have healed over enough for you to find the true equanimity we expect out of a drama’s “happy ending.”
Now, I refer to the time jump element as a “tesseract,” since we’re not only jumping forward, but gathering up everything that needs to happen for the story to be complete, and then delivering it when the time is ripe. Crime forgiven.
Another smaller pet peeve drama crime is the conveniently cut kiss scene. How many kiss scenes have you seen that actually stay with our characters, and the scene, after the kiss is over? There are precious few that do this. Instead, most opt for the convenient end-of-episode cut, where the romantic moment of the kiss can be suspended and prolonged without any real-life moments getting in the way.
The abysmal Forest was unique in its early kiss scene in that while the kiss did end the episode, the scene continued uncut in the following episode. Strangeness aside, it was actually refreshing to see our characters interacting after the kiss instead of jumping forward to several scenes/days later. However, we’re used to these jumps, because drama kisses are about a carefully crafted (or perhaps manufactured) moment, and the moment only. This is normally okay, and half of the enjoyment — until a drama like The Secret Life of My Secretary comes along.
In The Secret Life of My Secretary, we’re set up for episodes to expect the “true love kiss” that will alert our face-blind hero (Kim Young-gwang) of the true identity of his lady (Jin Ki-joo). I was so ready for the storybook correctness of this fairy tale-esque reveal — and then it didn’t even happen. The kiss scene cuts. The episode ends. We pick up scenes later, with none of the storybook elements having happened at all. Cop-out, tease, or drama crime? The jury is out.
Whether they range from the tiny annoyances, to the strangle-worthy tropes, to the drama endings that kill everything — drama crimes abound. I’ve shared a few of mine, but I’ve saved the most heinous one for last. And what crime is that? Being boring.
Ever since the dawn of storytelling, we’ve sought drama (in the classical sense) for enjoyment, for catharsis, and to help us understand the world around us. Though some might not believe it, we can still find all of those things in entertainment today, and especially in the wonderful little microcosm of K-dramas.
That’s why when a drama crime like boredom hits, it hits hard. Be ridiculous, make bad jokes, try something daring and have it fall flat, insert time jumps and hairdo changes and every chaebol trope we’ve ever encountered — but please, don’t be boring.
Of course, “boring” is a bit of an unfair word, being so subjective. What’s boring to me right now (Forest) and what excites me to my toes (I’ll Find You on a Beautiful Day) rings true for me, but could be the exact opposite for another viewer.
In the same way, I suppose drama crimes themselves are also a bit subjective — you might not find my drama crimes to be criminal at all, and instead you baulk at the sight of a many-job-holding-Candy and fast-forward through every piggyback scene you encounter.
Is there a threshold for how many drama crimes we can tolerate before we’re unable to forgive a drama, or lose hope in it entirely? And does losing hope in a drama mean abandonment, or stubbornly sticking it out? I think everyone has a different reaction to drama crimes, and a different threshold for what they’re willing to accept, the disbelief they’re willing to suspend, and the enjoyment that they can still extract from a drama — even when it’s lackluster. Because that’s what it’s about, right? Experiencing a story, getting engrossed in a fictional world, and taking that proverbial tumble down the rabbit hole of dramaland.
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Tags: editorial, Flower Boy Next Door, Forest, Gu Family Book, I'll Find You on a Beautiful Day, Oh My Venus, Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim 2, The K2, The Secret Life of My Secretary, W–Two Worlds
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1 Miky
March 12, 2020 at 8:06 PM
Gu Family Book's last 2 episodes were a crime to the story that the writer achieved to ruin the whole value lessons built till then not to mention the epilogue that they filmed in the same day as back then Drama Awards and after going to the ceremony and knowing they destroyed it tried to sugar coat the fans with the reincarnatin and Will be Back nonsense...Still mad till this day for watching it so invested live back then to see a great story be destroyed in 2 episodes...
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eternalpnk
March 13, 2020 at 8:05 AM
Reincarnations ruin the connection we, as the viewers, had with the characters. As @missvictrix says, it throws out the history we have with them. Unless it’s something similar to Goblin where she still remembers him cause she never drunk the forgetting potion.
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Miky
March 13, 2020 at 10:02 AM
Who knows,like they literally filmed the little epilogue in modern time before the MBC Drama Awards,Seung Gi went there after he finished filming it and that was done to make fans less angry with the way the story went south in the last 2 episodes...Origina was ending in the same timeline with the hero leaving all heartbroken ...Like all the stuff and character grown and lessons were tossed in the wind....Many fans were angry back then even after they put that,"will be back!"
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2 raekaddict
March 12, 2020 at 8:37 PM
While recently my Drama Forgiveness Factor is wearing thin.. I'll admit it depends on the director actors and even the writer whether I stick with a drama or not, like I can stick thru the whole warm and cozy even rewatch (guilty pleasure) all bcoz I love the actors both of them... 😅so for me drama crimes are subjective
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3 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
March 12, 2020 at 8:52 PM
For me the worst kind of drama-ending crime is failure to even provide an ending *cough*Netflix*cough*
And the worst kind of time-skip is the one where WE have to skip forward a year or two to see what happens next *cough*Netflix*cough*
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panshel
March 12, 2020 at 9:21 PM
Netflix inflicting seasons on K-dramaland is a crime against humanity.
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OldLawyer
March 12, 2020 at 11:16 PM
I am holding out subscribing to Netflix for just this reason. When I break down and do it will only be for a couple of months at a time.
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pickleddragon
March 12, 2020 at 9:33 PM
Speaking of which, I have a feeling that the latest Netflix offering - Hospital Playlist - is going to be 12 episodes *spread over* 3 seasons (since only 4 are listed on the Netflix page right now), instead of the 12 each season that many have been speculating about.
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panshel
March 12, 2020 at 10:02 PM
But Hospital Playlist is currently airing on tvN from March 12 to May 28.
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pickleddragon
March 12, 2020 at 10:12 PM
Hmm. My Netflix account is showing me only 4 episodes - till 2 April. I'm going by the logic that they list all the episodes for the season at one shot. But maybe you're right - Let's hope it goes on till 28 May!
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canxi
March 13, 2020 at 12:02 AM
It updates weekly.
KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 8:01 AM
as @canxi said, it updates weekly.
pickleddragon
March 13, 2020 at 8:20 PM
My bad - I should have been clearer. I meant that Netflix is showing up only 4 episodes in total to be aired for this show (including the three remaining unaired episodes). Usually, Netflix shows up all the airing dates for the episodes in the season at one shot, and in this case, there are only 4 dates in total. Based on news about the show having 12 episodes and 3 seasons, I concluded that this would be 3 seasons of 4 episodes each. But I may well be wrong :)
KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 8:02 AM
I get it, I really do, but in all fairness, how many KDramas has Netflix done that to?
(mind you, I say this, and waited a whole year for Kingdom season 2 to come out. it's HEEEEEERE!!!! *so excited!*)
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panshel
March 13, 2020 at 8:23 AM
Seven? Kingdom, My First First Love, Arthdal Chronicles, Chief of Staff, Love Alarm, Vagabond, Hospital Playlist
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KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 8:28 AM
7 is barely the # of shows that come one each (earthly) season, so a very low % but, like I said, I get it.
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Fly Colours
March 13, 2020 at 8:33 AM
Isn't My Holo Love Netflix too?
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KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 8:44 AM
is it divided in seasons too?
All I'm saying is that the phenomenon of Netflix dividing KDrama into SEASONS is so a recent (started 2019) and infrequent...
but again, I get that it's a pet peeve.
amara
March 13, 2020 at 10:33 AM
altho netflix is an evil company....look at how willing these stations are to do so. it's almost like it's more about $ than...story....
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kellibean
March 13, 2020 at 4:57 PM
Omg. Just thinking about Arthdal Chronicles still makes me want to cuss and throw things.
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4 YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
March 12, 2020 at 8:55 PM
That first screenshot...*shudders*. I felt a chill run down my spine. When you know that you're one of the last few standing. When you're honour-bound to uphold The Oppa Law: THOU SHALT NOT QUIT. Silent clams, mutant squirrels, ninja chipmunks, firehands, manholes...will this show ever end?
@leetennant @msrabbit @katakwasabi @skelly @stpauligurl @windsun33 @hebang
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FlyingTool
March 12, 2020 at 9:27 PM
You know, there is a corollary to the Oppa Law;
Thou Shall Remember!
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
March 12, 2020 at 10:16 PM
THOU SHALT NUMB THY MIND.
I strongly believe a bed scene is next. Uh huh. The only question is, how bizarre will it be? Will Dr. YJ do a drunk belly dance with her tuning forks? Will Oppa fight his raging lust? Will he grab his chainsaw? Saw the bedposts in half?
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 12, 2020 at 10:26 PM
She will have a deaf patient come into the hospital and will then come home with hearing aids and deliver a speech about how their love is like a cochlear implant. Just like those born deaf don't know sound until they get their first hearing aid so she never knew love until she got her first Oppa. She will demonstrate by wearing one set on high, he will then repair the damage to her ear drum. Oppa will fill all your holes he'll mutter as he tends to her ear.
She will perform minor surgery on his cranium to install a device that stimulates his auditory nerve. This will enable him to hear her screeches while bypassing the damage it's caused and also help him to hear the
Silence of the Clams.
The writers of Forest will then need to pay me for stealing my ideas.
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
March 12, 2020 at 10:35 PM
Laughed so hard.
amara
March 13, 2020 at 11:12 AM
what on earth is going on in this show
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 13, 2020 at 12:38 PM
I'm afraid @boughtabride that what's happening in Forest bears little resemblance to what we say is happening in Forest. The show is actually boring and random and so our attempts to make the show interesting and coherent have.... gotten a little out of control. She does have a tendency to use props for her romantic scenes though and they usually relate to sound - a stethoscope, tuning forks.
stpauligurl
March 13, 2020 at 6:07 PM
Honestly you should write s script and send it to the writer of Pegasus Market. they would eat that up!!!
FlyingTool
March 13, 2020 at 7:01 AM
I keep forgetting the tuning fork scene... I wonder why.
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windsun33
March 14, 2020 at 9:13 AM
Do clams remember?
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 12, 2020 at 9:35 PM
With all those things that are absolutely, definitely in the show #canon, it's a mystery as to why the whole thing is so. damn. boring.
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
March 12, 2020 at 10:18 PM
Tell me about it. The most exciting thing so far was Oppa plugging those holes.
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windsun33
March 14, 2020 at 9:15 AM
Your comment brings up some rather disturbing images...
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
March 12, 2020 at 9:54 PM
We're still cheering you on!
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Trinity 🍆
March 12, 2020 at 10:10 PM
You are bringing much honor to oppa. As an honorable oppaling you will be gifted a super short bath rope and an oversized towel to compliment each other. Well done, WhyWhy, well done 🙇♀️
Will there be a sequel called Silence of the Clams? Maybe it will be oppas next next drama.
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
March 12, 2020 at 11:07 PM
Clam of Thrones. The official sequel.
A dark drama about a bunch of clams plotting and scheming and back stabbing to get to the top. A warning, though. This could put you into a deep sleep - think 100 years - because the drama will be filmed entirely in Clam Language. Expect heavy breathing, clacking and snapping.
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stpauligurl
March 13, 2020 at 6:08 PM
I am giggling so stupidly in front of my laptop...
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Kairoskat 💐
March 12, 2020 at 11:09 PM
It will end soon YY! But it's still a long way for me. I'm at ep 17. I just found the hole in the ground 😆
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
March 12, 2020 at 11:16 PM
There are a few more holes waiting. Soldier on, young grasshopper!!!!
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nonski ⭐️A forever JIN who crash landed on Hyun Bins heart❤️!
March 15, 2020 at 9:32 AM
Yo! I barely saw you at soompi as I am barely here. Busy so priorities, holding the fort there. A big problem when I am having probelms with the show is when I liveblog I lost interest in watching it with subs.
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nonski ⭐️A forever JIN who crash landed on Hyun Bins heart❤️!
March 15, 2020 at 9:27 AM
I am chanting this everytime
The Oppa Law: THOU SHALT NOT QUIT
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5 Kairoskat 💐
March 12, 2020 at 9:52 PM
The biggest crime in dramaland is the lack of lead roles for Shin Sung Rok.
*runs away*
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Kairoskat 💐
March 12, 2020 at 10:33 PM
On the other hand...the best criminal in dramaland is also Shin Sung Rok.
*runs faster*
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larelle79
March 13, 2020 at 11:19 AM
*clears throat* *taps mic to get rid of feedback*
Yoo Jae-myung's portrayal of Lee Chang joon is the baseline and no one, no even SSR is at it.
*drops mic*
*runs for exit*
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Lancaster
March 14, 2020 at 12:41 AM
I don't know why DB didn't report this, but SSR is about to work with the director-writer team of TLE again in a drama with a plot that sounds like another makjang fest. Allegedly the story will be centered around him. They already cast three FLs.
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Kairoskat 💐
March 14, 2020 at 12:54 AM
Unfortunately SSR has declined the role. He accepted it earlier but had to step off because of scheduling conflict. I read the drama airdate has been changed from August to October 2020. Even the scriptread was postponed. Huhu
*cries in a corner again*
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Lancaster
March 14, 2020 at 2:00 AM
Oh did he? Didn't follow up the news on Penthouse. That's a shame., since this looks like a very good offer, the kind of career boost that he could use.
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6 Trinity 🍆
March 12, 2020 at 10:05 PM
I've come to the realization that dramas really struggle with endings. Or maybe it's just my general feelings. Very few dramas really bring me joy with their endings. Most just leave me upset and annoyed or only slightly satisfied. I wish dramas spent more time on the HEA than the last 5 minutes.
And dramas need to give me more satisfying kiss scenes. Give me those hot and heavy kiss scenes please! How am I as a single introverted shut in supposed to live vicariously through drama characters if all drama characters act like shy and virginal teenagers? Give me passion!! Give me steam! Make me wear out the rewind button rewatching! 😫
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
March 12, 2020 at 10:10 PM
All I can say is, the only steam emanating right now in Forest is from Oppa's trusty cookpot.
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Trinity 🍆
March 12, 2020 at 10:11 PM
Not even from his fiery balls?
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
March 12, 2020 at 10:32 PM
Oppa obviously suffers no ill effects from his fireball condition. Oppa would be walking crooked if he were not okay. The lizard grew a new tail after losing its old tail. Similarly, Oppa grows a new set of b*lls each time they go up in flames.
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raekaddict
March 12, 2020 at 11:04 PM
This is getting more and more interesting... Ur comments are making me more curious to watch Forest.. Than their trailers did😂😂😂😂😂
stpauligurl
March 13, 2020 at 6:10 PM
Trust @yyishere on this one..... it's much more fun reading the comments and watching it without subs.
I simply cannot resist it!
FlyingTool
March 13, 2020 at 7:33 PM
Ah yes, the cook pot - steaming the clams that oppa snagged for dinner. Of course this means the mutant squirrels will be coming after him - since the ToD is busy doing ToD things, they will need to reach out to other members of the family, like the Power Shovel of Harmfulness.
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panshel
March 12, 2020 at 10:50 PM
Unpopular opinion: I like when OTPs get together in the last episode. Once the couple gets together, the drama becomes boring. That's if we're lucky Show doesn't break them up just to get them back together again.
I love the "will they/won't they" and near kisses, and "some's" are always more heart fluttering than the actual relationship. I get giddy dreaming up infinite scenarios of how the characters will finally get together.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 12, 2020 at 10:56 PM
I don't know how unpopular an opinion that is, I hear that a lot. It's something I personally find frustrating. I prefer 'couple against the world' and want to see what the relationship looks like after they get together. Otherwise I find the whole thing a bit shallow.
But most people must disagree with me because they still make a lot of dramas to the formula you describe and I've heard the 'it's boring once they're together' a lot too.
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javinne
March 12, 2020 at 11:12 PM
Both are right to be both frustrated and/or excited. I would say, some dramas do very good in this phase: "will they/won't they"... But some dramas also do good in the 'couple against the world'.
It will differ/depend from drama to drama...
I love almost every drama with Lee Jeong suk because they do well in both, getting the couple to fall for each other, and after that stay true to each other, together, until the end of the show. And they are not boring.
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
March 12, 2020 at 11:13 PM
See, the thing is, if they get together too early, like episode 6, something bad is bound to happen. And then they will break up. Spend the next 6 episodes brooding, crying, avoiding each other, or being mean to each other. It's annoying. I would rather they get together in episode 12, than see them go through the whole noble idiot route...but there are exceptions. Amnesia generally works for me. The guy forgets her. Winter Sonata and Secret Garden did it beautifully. Wrung a few tears from me, too.
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panshel
March 13, 2020 at 12:04 AM
Typically, they kiss (and get together) in episode 8. Then the noble idiot breaks up with the non-idiot "for their own good." I would rather they get together in episode 16, then Happily Ever After. The End. I'm not a fan of the amnesia trope.
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 13, 2020 at 12:09 AM
I maintain it's episode 11 but i couldn't get enough data points.
YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
March 13, 2020 at 12:33 AM
I am a sucker for amnesiac troupes. Winter Sonata hurt so bad. He forgot her. She remembered everything. I've watched it countless times, and it still guts me every time. Maybe it had to do with the snow and the soundtrack. And I love that he fell for her all over again despite losing all his memories. The same with Secret Garden. But while the heroine in Winter Sonata broke each time he said or did something that reminded her of the past him, the heroine in Secret Garden was just so indulgent and content, she was smiling, and waiting for him to remember her, and I loved that. I need great dramas like that, that make me feel and hurt. Not the bloodcurdling mess masquerading as romance that they're churning out in Forest.
mugyuljoie is preciousss
March 13, 2020 at 12:42 AM
Maybe I'm a bad person. Amnesia gets a huge laugh from me, every time.
Meheartisamusicbox
March 13, 2020 at 10:06 AM
Me too. But up until Stairways to Heaven. That made me cried buckets! I haven't found another replacement in recent years, not yet. T_T
amara
March 13, 2020 at 10:56 AM
sO GODDAMN ANNOYING
stpauligurl
March 13, 2020 at 6:11 PM
I thought they usually get together around ep 10, then the noble idiocy kicks in around 11 or 12 and we then wait until the last episode....
panshel
March 13, 2020 at 6:59 PM
@stpauligurl @leetennant My data points are You From Another Star: Episode 8, Pinocchio: Episode 8 (@javinne A noble idiocy Lee Jong-suk drama), and Kill Me, Heal Me: Episode 8.
books7time
March 14, 2020 at 12:36 PM
Are we kindred spirits @panshel?
One of my favorite independent American movies is "Expiration Date". The main female lead initiates a kiss but stops right before making contact as she talks about creating anticipation.
Kdramas are so good about building anticipation--all the moments you described above that make us hold our breath for them to confess or kiss.
On the other hand, I also love to see the "couple against the world" (which there is not enough of due to the cliched separation and/or noble idiocy. Ugh) like @leetennant.
For me the dramas that handle both the before and after are the ones that are exceptional.
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KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 8:09 AM
dear @trinpie
I hear you and trust me, you don't have to be single and introverted to want KDramas to STOP giving you platonic-virginal-teenager-like romances.
Gimme some normalization to skinship!
Gimme sweet pecks on cheeks and lips that are NOT shown in slow-mo and put on repeat, and could someone please stop zooming on that godforsaken pat on the back when someone cries!!
GIMME DEM PROPER HOT KISSES, DAMN IT!!!
*goes through lists of Best KDrama Kisses on Youtube for satisfaction*
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 13, 2020 at 1:07 PM
It sounds as though you may have SDS. We're here for you during this difficult time.
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KSKalways
March 14, 2020 at 6:28 AM
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 14, 2020 at 12:43 PM
SDS - Skinship Deprivation Syndrome
An unfortunately too-common malady afflicting drama watchers.
http://invisibledragon.home.blog/2019/09/28/living-with-skinship-deprivation-syndrome-sds/
KSKalways
March 14, 2020 at 6:04 PM
Damn... I have indeed been rightly diagnosed... This is... Omg... What do I...
*broken*
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7 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 12, 2020 at 10:32 PM
All jokes aside and my dislike of boredom, time jumps and K2-esque bad decisions involving Idols, my number one Drama Crime would have to be the reset.
Okay, so the Hongs and their "time jump, all conflict resolved offscreen" nonsense comes a pretty close second. But the reset, to me, is the ultimate offense.
Black is the most obvious and most egregious example that comes to mind (and the one that made people the most furious from my memory). When the writer ends with a reset, it's a way of saying that nothing you've seen so far matters. It's why the ending of Black had me about ready to destroy my television, almost as much as Big did.
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HelenaCan
March 13, 2020 at 7:06 AM
Oh definitely! Not only a reset, but a clumsy, nonsensical, stupid reset at that. A sense of total ruin and desolation. After enjoying the show so much, after having forgiven even the ridiculous transplant operation, I was annihilated by the erasure of everything the show has built not only for its characters, but for its world.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 13, 2020 at 12:46 PM
It's like the writers popped up and went, "Oh yeah, those 18 episodes of television you watched? Yeah they're irrelevant. Nothing important happened."
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8 javinne
March 12, 2020 at 11:00 PM
Because this life is our first ***Spoiler****
I loved they show us not only the kiss but what happened after.... nevertheless, they committed the crime of ruining the main characters toward the end, and make them do things unlike them, just to move the plot?? I don't know...
Time jump
Oh my Venus and Boy next door ****Spoilers*****
I agree with most people in that time jumps are usually bad done, not necessarily convenient for the story and cheap.
And whereas in Oh my Venus it became even upsetting, I have to say, I didn't hate it in Flower boy next door, because the characters kept the relationship even in the distance, writing one another and keeping contact like normal people in the modern world would do: emails, letters, etc.
There are many other dramas I could trash out within this topic and judge them badly because of their crimes, but I have no time! Lol.
Nevertheless, by the way, I must say I also have a high level of forgiveness. I feel the crime, but for the sake of what is good, many many times I end up forgiving them. Just like nobody is perfect, no drama is perfect (except maybe for "My Ajusshi", 😅😅😅😅. But that is one in a million and it is also a subjective statement)
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 12, 2020 at 11:04 PM
My Ahjussi was perfect.
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javinne
March 12, 2020 at 11:44 PM
Totally!
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amara
March 13, 2020 at 10:52 AM
my bad lmao
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OldLawyer
March 12, 2020 at 11:11 PM
I believe that the problem with BECAUSE THIS IS MY FIRST LIFE is that they story of the two main leads was complete at the end of the fourteenth episode- and this is what lead the writers to make mistakes at the end of an otherwise truly great drama. Hid they stretched that story slightly and given more thought and time to the two secondary romances the show would have been prefect.
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javinne
March 12, 2020 at 11:48 PM
Exactly! They could have had so much material with the lead couple just being happy and having him support her in her writing struggles, or having their real honey moon, or whatever else, and focus on the secondary couples... It would have been such a perfect drama!
But no, they have to ruin it making them lie and being cunning for no reason...
It was upsetting, so much I couldn't watch the last two episodes without fast forward some parts, for I couldn't stand it.... 😒😑😒😑😒
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OldLawyer
March 13, 2020 at 7:00 AM
Having a real honeymoon- and he supports her in her writing- both good ideas.
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rue
March 13, 2020 at 1:34 AM
BTLIOF is one of my top 10 heck top 5 dramas but the character change towards the end was a really weird choice. It would have been perfect otherwise.
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KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 8:11 AM
The time skip in Oh My Venus should be legally viewed as a true punishable crime.
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stpauligurl
March 13, 2020 at 6:13 PM
yep to all of the above.....
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9 OldLawyer
March 12, 2020 at 11:07 PM
The stupid time jump at the end of OH MY VENUS had as its sole purpose setting up a cheap visual joke. In the immortal words of Talleyrand "it was not just a mistake, it was a blunder".
Likewise, the final 30 minutes of GRACEFUL FAMILY could be compared to the ending of GU FAMILY BOOK: It effectively nullified what until then had been a fabulous story.
Bad endings kill but so do bad beginnings. Another drama crime is a beginning which poisons the whole show up front by permanently skewing the entire plot. The writers of the wonderful MARRIAGE NOT DATING committed this crime with the opening scene of SHY BOSS: Hint- if you are writing a romcom do not begin it with a scene of someone committing suicide.
How about the crime of fundamental inconsistency in your story: This can mar even an otherwise entertaining and watchable show like DAN: ANGEL'S LAST MISSION where the attempt to jam a Buddhist doctrine of fate into a Christian story of redemption and love could not possibly have been more jarring. Were it not for great performances by the two leads the show would have been a complete disaster. A writer should realize that if you need an actress with the extraordinary talents of Shin Hye-sun to make your show work you probably did not do a very good job with the script. FOREST is what you get instead when you do not have such a talented actress.
I would add just one more crime to this code: Loose ends. There were pairings that were simply left undone in PEOPLE WITH FLAWS- even though the intent was there in the beginning- and for no other reason than that the writers spent too much time having the main leads spin their wheels aimlessly. A similar effect occurs at the end of the otherwise excellent weekender FATHER IS STRANGE- we really were left with incomplete stories for two of the couples and were treated to a bunch of filler even thought the show got four extra episodes. This was an annoyance rather than a disaster- but it was still an annoyance.
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KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 8:14 AM
Shy Boss was ... I had to drop it. and it had more to do with the FL's personality than the actual plot.
Angel's Last Mission: dropped. The ML's acting was bad. bad. bad. Sorry, not Sorry L fans.
It made me a little sad that Father is Strange was on your list, but I respect that. It was the 1st 50+ show I ever LOVED to pieces.
:-)
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amara
March 13, 2020 at 10:52 AM
he rly is a bad actor so like. bad acting is one of the few languages we can all speak (give or take a preference) and whew.
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OldLawyer
March 13, 2020 at 6:15 PM
While I had some disappointment with the way the plotlines were handled in fact I loved FATHER IS STRANGE- perhaps as much as you did- it is one of the two best weekend family dramas that I have ever seen (FIVE CHILDREN is the other one). It has some of the finest character development that I have ever seen in a show: Like they transformation of sister-in-law Yoo-joo from a hateful bully into someone you want to cheer for by the end. And then there is the oldest sister lawyer who ACTUALLY THINKS LIKE A LAWYER (so very rare in any show in any country). Part of this article's point was that even when a drama crime is committed a show can remain very watchable but alas, could have been better. I include ANGEL'S LAST MISSION in that same category- despite its flaws it was actually a favorite show of mine last year. It may even be a shame that you dropped it because it is true that at the beginning L was not very good- but he steadily got better as the show went on. I have seen this phenomenon before when Sung Hoon was in FIVE KIDS. The common denominator is the actress they are paired with: Shin Hye-sun. She is not merely talented but dedicated to her trade to the point where she has a thorough understanding of not just the skills but the attitudes the create a great performance. Her male partners become her apprentices- and they learn or perhaps more accurately absorb from their master the attitudes and skills that make a good actor. Watching L become a good actor by the end of the show was probably as astonishing to me as to anyone else. Despite the flaw in the writing (and it is pretty fundamental) you might want to watch the show again just to see this happen.
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KSKalways
March 14, 2020 at 6:33 AM
Shin Hye-sun is indeed brilliant ✨✨✨✨✨✨
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10 beffels
March 12, 2020 at 11:33 PM
I have had Gu Family Book sitting at episode 18 in my Netflix list for months. It’s been so good so far and I’ve heard so much about the ending that I’m too scared to go on...but I want to finish it because I luff Lee Seung Gi and I am a completionist😅
I think the off the rails ending is the worst crime for me. So many dramas seem to abandon ship around ep 13 and it’s just a slog to finish them.
In terms of petty drama crimes, terrible hair can actually stop me watching a drama (or distract me from being really immersed, Shining Inheritance). I’m sure I’m missing some great dramas but if I have to spend the whole time wanting to get their hair out of their eyes.....😄
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queenmee
March 13, 2020 at 1:08 AM
You really made me laugh, a hairdo can stop you from watching a drama ?hahahaha
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beffels
March 13, 2020 at 2:07 AM
Lol Not if I’m really interested, but it is so distracting! I really enjoyed the Taiwanese drama Just You but I spent most of it watching the hero’s hair because it was so aggressively spikey I swear it came into the room before he did 😂
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wapz
March 13, 2020 at 2:17 AM
This made me just check out the hero's hair and yes it so spikey, I hope his hair was fine after being aggressively styled like that.
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March 13, 2020 at 2:50 AM
Aaron Yan's hair in Just You started off okay but as the drama progressed his hair grew I think and so the spike at the front grew longer and longer until it started to look like some sort of offensive weapon.
Shining Inheritance made me laugh because Lee Seung-gi's hair was the same style as his grandmother's and looked like it wouldn't budge in a cyclone. It's like they got matching wigs but one was grey and the other black.
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beffels
March 13, 2020 at 3:36 AM
Ways to make your grandparent leave you all their money: be hair twins!
raekaddict
March 13, 2020 at 4:59 AM
offensive weapon...hahahhahah...:D
okiejune
March 13, 2020 at 9:38 AM
"heir hair" kkkkkk
rue
March 13, 2020 at 1:28 AM
Nooooo, stay at episode 18. You're good. That's where the drama ended and don't let Netflix tell you otherwise.
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Ems132
March 13, 2020 at 2:36 AM
"I’m sure I’m missing some great dramas but if I have to spend the whole time wanting to get their hair out of their eyes.....😄"
Thanks for the company!
I have dropped or sped through quite a few shows for this reason. I still remember the 15 minutes of "Lovely,Horribly" I sat through, wishing I could cut off the hair or at least push it back, before deciding that I was better off dropping the show instead of waiting for the hair to change.
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beffels
March 13, 2020 at 2:44 AM
The worst is when you’re enjoying a drama and suddenly their hair changes into something awful but you’re already invested 😅
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KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 8:15 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHA about the hair situation.
Your comment killed me.
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Gisaengstyle
March 14, 2020 at 2:33 AM
This is a key reason I don’t get into many Chinese historical dramas. All the men have the SAME WIG HAIRLINE. It’s extremely irritating.
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bewitched
March 13, 2020 at 11:05 PM
Your hair concern is not petty, I share tour feelings. It’s a crime to mar Lee Seung-gi and Sung Joon’s pretty face with terrible saeguk hair in Gu Family Book. Lee Jeong-seok got a ridiculously ugly wig at the beginning of Pinocchio and Jang Ki-yong seems to pick up similar one for his upcoming drama. It’s not related to the story line but it is distracting enough.
I didn’t watch CLOY, but saw the picture of Dan’s mother and still wonder how they make her hair that big.
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11 canxi
March 13, 2020 at 12:13 AM
My drama crime or pet peeve is the arm in the way of the kiss scene/the well-angled head so that you literally can't see anything/and the super far away camera pan during the kiss scene. I didn't watch 7 (and probably) more hours to squint at what's supposed to be the moment where the characters finally get together. Don't do that. Lol.
Having a heroine that isn't an active part of the story is a big big crime. I want her to be a part of stuff and help and take matters into her own hands and figure things out. Sometimes they will have the heroine just react to stuff and it's very frustrating as a viewer.
And sometimes (not all the time) when they forego an ending for some type of twee narration that's supposed to be affecting and sum everything up...but it doesn't...
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MikeyD signed up
March 13, 2020 at 4:33 PM
You go look up old K-dramas from 15 years ago its a bit shocking compared to today. Real kissing! Sexy clothes! Cleavage! What country was this from? As much as I loved the 2018 series 'Matrimonial Chaos' why did they have to dress Lee El, of all people, in a baggy black nun's uniform?
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12 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
March 13, 2020 at 1:17 AM
... Do I need to say anything? Would anyone LIKE me to say anything?
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rue
March 13, 2020 at 1:25 AM
Lol, I'm afraid, but yes.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
March 13, 2020 at 2:34 AM
Can I say something in the morning?
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stpauligurl
March 13, 2020 at 4:51 AM
Yes Please!
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Eazal
March 13, 2020 at 7:44 AM
We're waiting.
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
March 13, 2020 at 2:13 AM
The clams are waiting.
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FlyingTool
March 13, 2020 at 5:11 AM
Glub. Glub.
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FlyingTool
March 13, 2020 at 6:53 AM
I always enjoy your missives from the front of the War on Drama Crime.
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13 rue
March 13, 2020 at 1:24 AM
Gu Family Book owes me the hours I spent watching it. I have usually forgiven dramas for endings I did not like but Gu Family Book is on an eternal time out for that crappy ending. It's not because it is the only drama that has committed a sin against me(I have watched crappier dramas just as I have watched dramas with endings that were unsatisfactory). The reason it doesn't get my forgiveness is because I loved the drama. I enjoyed it. I loved it so much I did not see any bad acting or plot holes. I spent hours dreaming of where we would end up, only to get whatever the hell that was.
Usually if I don't like an ending but love the drama, I will rewatch it to the point just before that and then write the ending myself. Gu Family Book does not and will not get that honor. They betrayed me and can just stay in the Hall Of Infamy with Melty.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 13, 2020 at 1:32 AM
Your relationship with Gu is mine with Big.
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rue
March 13, 2020 at 1:39 AM
I discovered Dramabeans before watching Big, saw the reviews and backed away slowly from that one.
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beffels
March 13, 2020 at 2:09 AM
Same, but I feel like one day my curiosity will win
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Eazal
March 13, 2020 at 7:47 AM
Not even Gong Yoo (and he's a powerful reason) made me watch the drama after I read a couple of reviews.
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KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 7:50 AM
I saw Gong Yoo.
So I watched it as it aired.
I regretted it.
Deeply.
#ForeverScarred
stpauligurl
March 13, 2020 at 6:15 PM
Me too!
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Dorotka
March 14, 2020 at 8:08 AM
The thing is, the first 4 episodes of Big were great and I still remember being fully invested and crying at the end of ep 4. Then it was ok till ep 12 or so... and then they totally screwed up... they should have had the guts to wake the hero up from the coma and let the young actor continue... I'm still convinced he was capable enough...
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Meheartisamusicbox
March 13, 2020 at 10:10 AM
Agreed! I was really reluctant to start Gu Family Book for a number of reasons. In the end I watched, just because I was bored waiting for YYS's next project. And I regretted it. I felt that I wasted so much time. Not because of YYS, but due to the very reasons I felt reluctant to watch. I am still sad with myself for my bad move.
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14 Kurama
March 13, 2020 at 1:39 AM
For Gu Family Book, I didn't really care about the end because they lost me way before :p
I think one of the biggest crime of KDramas for now is failling the preproduced dramas. I don't understand how they are doing this but they have more time for everything : writing, filming, pre- and pro-production and still we get Arthdal Chronicles (hey guys you forget the light), Vagabond (great action but some scenario could have been a nice touch) or Forest (...).
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15 Fly Colours
March 13, 2020 at 2:07 AM
I am a mathematical illiterate, but I guess we could create an algorithm to calculate Drama Crime Tolerance Threshold (DraCriToT) factoring in Lead Attractiveness in the Oppa scale (1to10), Feels Factor (in a scale of 1 to 20) and Crack-tasticness in the Makjang scale (1 to 50) divided by the amount of Drama Crimes...
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 13, 2020 at 2:17 AM
Can you please include Thematic Maintenance (1to10) and Plot Coherence (1to20) to the numerator and ensure our Drama Crime definitions for the denominator are comprehensive.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
March 13, 2020 at 2:35 AM
Don't make me want to actually create this algorithm pls... I have better things to do with my life.
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Fly Colours
March 13, 2020 at 2:43 AM
@sicarius, it is NECESSARY that you use your unique combination of Drama and Maths skills to create this algorithm (*rubbing pleading hands)
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 13, 2020 at 2:43 AM
The algorithm will probably require differential weighting of the parameters. And you'll probably need to create one or more versions since e.g. The Oppa factor will be weighted higher for some people while the Plot factor will be for somebody else.
We'll need a Fangirl version and a Plot version minimum.
But you do have better things to do...
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oppafangirl
March 13, 2020 at 4:42 AM
Umm my two cents as a mathematician, I think the case of fan girl is the easiest: they will watch the show and forgive it even if oppa made a cameo which also made no sense. You can take it as a definition of fan girl.
(even though my name says oppafangirl, I must be the most non-fan fan girl ever, lol)
On the other hand, the subjective factor of forgiveness also needs to take input in form of the expectations about the show.
javinne
March 13, 2020 at 5:10 AM
LOL. you guys are funny. When you get the algorithm totally ready, please include me in the list to get to use it😂😂😂😂
FlyingTool
March 13, 2020 at 5:17 AM
Don’t. You’d need to validate the algorithm...which would mean critically watching/rewatching a broad sample...ugh!
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OldLawyer
March 13, 2020 at 7:11 AM
I know that you intended this as a joke but it might actually be a good idea. I have often said that Kdrama writers need an editor. If you create a DraCriToT it could serve as a useful reminder to writers and PDs to pay more attention to the story.
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PakalanaPikake
March 13, 2020 at 10:36 AM
@flyingcolours Fly Colours,
Please include a Bait-and-Switch Quotient for plots that toss their premises out the window, along with real-time demerit tracking for Incompetent Marketing (e.g., serial killings in a rom-com) and Criminally Misleading Synopsis. And don't forget some way of documenting Excessive Reliance on Suspension Of Disbelief. I can't tell you how many times my SOD has been dislocated because Writer-nim thinks everyone in the audience can be mesmerized into ignoring the plot holes. I may be an old fogey, but I still have a better memory than a goldfish. Hrmpf!
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16 Fly Colours
March 13, 2020 at 2:21 AM
My own pet peeves:
1. time jumps,
2. terrible moms and dads that turn nice in the last episode,
3. dramas that begin centered on a FL and midseries turn out to be all about the ML
4. seasons (Netflix, why can't we have nice things?)
5. Prepotent CEOs with a heart of gold that woo their subalterns
6. assorted peeves: people going to sleep dressed in sweaters and street clothes, people casually overhearing conversations happening 50 meters away, leads with unacknowledged drinking problems (hate it when they binge drink repeatedly alone to show that they're depressed), people coming to the rescue from faraway places in the nick of time (CLOY, yes), etc.
But, pet peeves and all, I'm in love with Kdrama! The Feel Factor totally make up for whatever Drama Crimes, and I usually watch crying and laughing and gasping like a kid
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kimchiturka
March 13, 2020 at 4:47 AM
Hahaha, you've got two of mine there - a) terrible parents "turned good" in the last hour - especially if it's accompanied by some head-scratching "explanation" of why they acted the way they did, that makes sense only in the writer's head; and B) finally somebody noticed the SLEEPING IN CLOTHES!!! Really, what's up with that?! I literally don't know what to think about that one, is it really just some style-over-logic thing in drama-making or WTF? And a bonus is when they spend enormous amount of time in someone's definitely well-heated house with fat winter jacket and slippers.
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javinne
March 13, 2020 at 4:58 AM
Lol... in "boyfriend", at least one time, I liked they show Song Hye-kyo dressed in her pyjamas (at least she was getting ready to go to bed), doing videochat with her boyfriend (gorgeous Park Go bum) and he noticing she put the sweater in the wrong side -don't know how to say it in English-).
I loved it, because it sounded very realistic.
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Fly Colours
March 13, 2020 at 5:25 AM
@Javinne, I cheered at that scene too! In Her Private Life they also wear cute matching pijamas. It's telling that we notice it when characters are wearing sleep appropriate attire 😂 On the other hand, there are dramas in which characters seem to lounge in pijamas the whole day after they come back from work, but that I can actually relate to 😋
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javinne
March 13, 2020 at 7:31 AM
Totally. When I come home from whatever, I immediately change and remain in pyjamas or comfi clothes😆
kimchiturka
March 13, 2020 at 5:53 AM
I'm also starting to feel disproportionally happy when I see someone in K-drama in their pijamas...
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Fly Colours
March 13, 2020 at 5:10 AM
The sleeping in street clothes totally freaks me out. My first romcom was Clean with Passion, the ML in it was supposed to be germophobic, but it didn't bother him to sleep in super fluffy wool sweaters that he had been wearing the whole day, noooooo. Besides, wouldn't they sweat like pigs dressed like that under the duvets?
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kimchiturka
March 13, 2020 at 5:52 AM
Oh, and two more from the same department: 1. checking if someone has fever and/or putting cold bandages to reduce fever on someone's forehead, but not on their skin, instead, of course, across their bangs! and 2: "taking care" of someone's bleeding cut (and I'm talking at home, without any impending danger and with full first-aid box) without disinfecting it or God forbidd wiping the dried blood away, and instead just wrapping it up with a bandage. :DDD
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Fly Colours
March 13, 2020 at 6:22 AM
@turka, oh, and don't forget the bandages OVER the clothes, seeing that always hurts my brain
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KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 8:22 AM
Bleeding Character pet peeve:
#1 - when they decide to walk around with a bleeding wound all DAY, for no reason, like can't you clean this up before you go anywhere else???
#2 - when a character gets slapped and IMMEDIATELY gets a cut on their lip that NEVER gets looked at, UNLESS it's in one of those "let me help you with this because you can't seem to care enough to do it yourself" moment, which I equally harbor.
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Fly Colours
March 13, 2020 at 8:30 AM
@kethysk, #1 reminds me of our beloved stabby OTP in My Country! Those guys could get their livers stabbed by a giant ass sword, and still ride a horse and go into battle. Apparently painkillers were magnificent in Goryo times. No need for antibiotics when you're stabby OTP
PakalanaPikake
March 13, 2020 at 8:09 PM
@flyingcolours Fly Colours March 13, 2020 at 8:30 AM
You're right about the painkillers in Goryeo -- and even further back in Koguryeo days. When CROWNED CLOWN was airing, I couldn't help but suspect that King Lee Heon was not only strung out on opium, but could well have been given mabisan / mafeisan for that nasty chest wound. It is a combination of cannabis and Datura, a potent hallucinogen related to North
American locoweed. (IIRC, it was supposedly invented by Hwa Ta -- the legendary "Great Doctor" in FAITH.) Mr. X's excellent subtitles for KINGDOM OF THE WINDS, which I re-watched just before ARTHDAL CHRONICLES and CROWNED CLOWN premiered, had information on mabisan / mafeisan.
I'm still wondering how uri Stabby OTP managed to survive being shish-kebab'd so many times. It's not like they had Dr. Jin in the wings to hook them up to his Joseon intravenous drips of homebrew penicillin and blood transfusions. ;-)
amara
March 13, 2020 at 11:07 AM
oh my god lmfsiohfajpo this is such a peeve of mine. butu it's definitely production/time/laziness because of both. but fuck i cannot STAND the wrapping it up with a bandage thing i rlyc ant it makes me want to yell bc itlooks SO STUPID
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Eazal
March 13, 2020 at 7:51 AM
I've been asking myself so many times... don't they sell pajamas in SK?
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Fly Colours
March 13, 2020 at 8:05 AM
For a while I was wondering if it was normal for people to sleep in regular clothes in SK 😂. In the sageuk they don't even take off the golden thingy headpiece
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kimchiturka
March 13, 2020 at 8:11 AM
I also wondered that, that maybe it's a cultural thing...
Eazal
March 13, 2020 at 8:54 AM
If we open a story we could build an empire in a couple of days. Think about it 🤔
FlyingTool
March 13, 2020 at 9:14 AM
Just means they couldn’t get PJ companies to cough up the dough for PPL. With a few exceptions.
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books7time
March 14, 2020 at 12:18 PM
Ok here are a couple of my silly pet peeves.
In line with sleeping in pajamas, how about sleeping with lights on! I cannot focus on anything but wanting to turn off the lights and let the poor characters sleep. Do directors think we can't survive a moment without seeing an actor in clear definition? Where is the lighting crew? Does every drama character have a fear of the dark? Please, I need to know so I can stop obsessing.
Also, why is it that all female characters sleep with makeup on?
Ridiculous.
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KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 8:19 AM
lol @ #6.
I'll add to #2: backstabbing sisters who do terrible things, never seem to get called out on it and then mysteriously become nice at the end.
(I'm currently at ep10 of "Call me Mother" and the middle sister needs a SLAP, a BEATING, a heavy SPANKING and yet, no one is calling her out on it.)
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stpauligurl
March 13, 2020 at 6:19 PM
@kethysk be patient with that show and keep watching......
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PakalanaPikake
March 13, 2020 at 10:50 AM
Re: #6 -- sleeping in outerwear / street clothes
There may be a real-life reason for that: tight live-shooting schedules that make costume changes a PITA, especially in the case of sageuks with intricate costuming and makeup (or dramas with paltry costume budgets).
It's also possible that sets in the winter time could be very cold, so keeping everyone bundled up prevents pneumonia from exposure.
I get skeeved out every time someone hops into the sack fully clothed after riding on public transportation. Eeeewww.
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17 reijeanne
March 13, 2020 at 4:01 AM
When the second male lead I am rooting for not only did not get the girl but also gets killed off in the end. :(
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queenmee
March 13, 2020 at 9:19 AM
Haha which drama is this?they kill him too? lol
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zzthorn
March 13, 2020 at 11:40 AM
Chicago Typewriter. But then, he wasn't really alive anyway.
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18 Edgar Pordwed
March 13, 2020 at 5:02 AM
I find it strange that I've become so critical of Kdramas when I've never been this critical of shows I've watched from other countries. Maybe I just never discussed them as much.
For me too forced separation is the biggest pet peeve. Infuriates me nowadays. Its interesting how creative some of the dramas are in coming up with a reason to separate the couple. Even if they are not broken up they are still separated in some of them.
I think I still have a high tolerance of drama crimes still and forgive easily. I'm a rigid follower of the Oppa Unnie Law too I think.
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Fly Colours
March 13, 2020 at 5:30 AM
@edgarpordwed, I think we are critical because we love them so much... Our expectations are up, and then a Drama Crime occurs and we get crabby at the drama. Anyway, I also have super high tolerance, I actually feel amused at tropey tropes. I guess that growing up watching Brazilian soap operas wired my brain to love tropey dramas with outlandish plots
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KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 8:24 AM
pet peeve in American shows: outdoor shoes on beds and couches. Like, WHY are you wearing outdoor shoes INDOORS??
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Fly Colours
March 13, 2020 at 8:32 AM
Well pointed out!
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Edgar Pordwed
March 13, 2020 at 9:22 AM
Haha yes I've wondered about that too!
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amara
March 13, 2020 at 10:46 AM
we're animals u__u
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amara
March 13, 2020 at 10:46 AM
jk idk cos i dont wear shoes indoors i was not raised in a barn
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stpauligurl
March 13, 2020 at 6:22 PM
And THIS must be the reason for a pandemic around the world. People not taking their shoes off indoors.
To be honest I didn't know about that until I moved to MN and everyone takes their shoes off.
And my intentional family were all from India - so I learned real fast NOT to wear my shoes in the house.
to this day I take my shoes off in everyone's house I go into.
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javinne
March 13, 2020 at 10:48 PM
I am soooooo used to the Korean culture that when I see outdoor shoes inside rooms (not yet on the couch or beds) in Chinese dramas, I am peeved. Why would you walk inside your home with the shoes you have been walking on the streets??? (Even if most of the streets are clean).
I also find it funny that even when we have the evil ones in Kdramas, in their homes, even though they are evil, they take off their shoes. You see, a minimum of decency there... 😂😂😂
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Possum
March 13, 2020 at 10:54 PM
Taking your shoes off someone else’s house is still a fairly new thing to me.
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KSKalways
March 14, 2020 at 6:31 AM
In Canada, especially in Winter, it's very much expected for you to take off your shoes when you walk into someone else's house.
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Possum
March 14, 2020 at 10:27 PM
I was very surprised by this when I visited Canada so years ago. I was suddenly very aware of the sorry state of my socks.
Edgar Pordwed
March 13, 2020 at 10:36 AM
Oh My Venus actually had two separations. It was so frustrating. But it's still one of my favourite Kdrama rom-coms :P
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19 Gisaengstyle
March 13, 2020 at 6:28 AM
My peeve is NOT TAKING THE MEDICAL MONITORS OFF STANDBY MODE in hospital scenes. The person is having a heart attack or whatever, and 98% of the time the monitors are just blipping along in “we just turned this on” format. How difficult would it be to just hook it up, if it’s there anyway? To simulate the rapid or irregular heartbeat associated with the action? Argh.
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Gisaengstyle
March 13, 2020 at 6:43 AM
*this peeve is, of course, in addition to, and not in substitution for, all the preceding peeves that have been so elegantly enumerated above...
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20 FlyingTool
March 13, 2020 at 6:58 AM
Any discussion of criminally bad endings would be incomplete without mention of High Kick Through the Roof.
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PakalanaPikake
March 13, 2020 at 10:55 AM
@hebang Flying Tool,
I'm still only about half-way through HIGH KICK! 2 because I heard about that ending. Grrrr.
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21 MikeyD signed up
March 13, 2020 at 7:15 AM
A 'good' K-drama time jump at the end of a series happens when the balance between the couple has been thrown off by the sturm und drang of the previous episodes. They separate themselves from the situation then come back together as equals. I can get behind that.
A 'bad' K-drama time jump happens when the writers have painted themselves into a corner and the only way to escape is to time-jump beyond their current plot problems.
If any series needed a time-jump (and didn't get one) it was 'What's Wrong With Secretary Kim'. That girl should'a pulled a Pretty Noona and run off to Jeju to work in a coffee shop, get away from her toxic controlling boss/boyfriend.
The series 'Suspicious Partner' was unique in that instead of separation they fast-forwarded through the couple having a *normal* couple's relationship. The viewer then felt the merited their happy ending.
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amara
March 13, 2020 at 10:45 AM
sus partners is a perfect example of the last romcom i watched that i had extreme fun with and could shake off most of the problems i had bc i liked it so much lmao (but that's done and over now and i can never watch it again)
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 13, 2020 at 12:28 PM
Unfortunately the only time jump we got in WWWSK is the one I wrote whereby she cracks and murders him in five years by putting death mushrooms in his omelette.
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MikeyD signed up
March 13, 2020 at 4:38 PM
I had similar fantasies about 'Pasta' which was an even more toxic relationship. Instead of wanting the hero to be reformed by true love I wanted to see the heroine slash his car tires.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 13, 2020 at 4:43 PM
Pasta was horrible. Last time somebody picked it up, I advised them to watch the last five minutes and then decide if they wanted to continue - they dropped it flat. That relationship was the worst of old-school Candy/CEO kdrama.
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javinne
March 13, 2020 at 10:54 PM
Oh my, I was even curious to watch Pasta, because hey, Lee Sun gyun is there, although I just don't like Gong Hyo jin (no matter what), but after all your comments I won't... I want to keep on loving my ajusshi how I remember him from My Ajusshi 😅😅😅
Possum
March 13, 2020 at 10:56 PM
Hmm, I hadn’t heard that about Pasta. I think I’ll take it off my watch list now. 🤔
22 latebloomer
March 13, 2020 at 7:28 AM
Let's be honest: if there were no drama crimes, DB would be a much less interesting place. It's fun to squee over your favorite OTP, or cheer for some great casting/acting/directing/cinematography/meta/plot twists -- and have a bunch of beanies agree. It can be really satisfying to discuss issues that came up in a drama you like, and hear other beanies' perspectives. But when you are witnessing a drama crime, isn't DB one of the first things that comes to your mind? How you are going to testify to that crime and what other beanies will have to say? Having a forum for discussing drama crimes is more than complaining, it's also developing insight into the ingredients that make a drama work or not. The flip side of frustration is a vision for a better drama. "What if....?" In a perfect drama, there is little to do but applaud. In a flawed drama, the opportunities for commenting and responding to comments are so much more spicy.
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Fly Colours
March 13, 2020 at 8:21 AM
@lindag, agree! Love the insight I get from recaps and Beanie comments about the dramas I'm watching ñ, and squeeing is fun. But it's even more fun to laugh together at drama craziness
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KSKalways
March 13, 2020 at 8:24 AM
all hail DB!
Hail DB!
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amara
March 13, 2020 at 10:44 AM
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stpauligurl
March 13, 2020 at 6:26 PM
@lindag - I agree. DB is like the intelligent version of Viki where we can all comment and agree to disagree and learn from each other.
So many times I've read the recaps and comments and found a new respect for a drama (or new way to hate it) but always it is so much fun!
Thanks Dramabeans and all the Beanies that give me life!
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23 Bob
March 13, 2020 at 7:37 AM
K-dramas are like candy in that if you binge on too much at once you make yourself sick. If we're sick of seeing the same drama trope two dozen times is it perhaps our fault for having watched two dozen dramas? While the rest of the world was going crazy over 'Parasite' for its originality I was thinking 'Peach allergy? They did that in Go Back Spouses!' Watching too many K-dramas can make you jaded.
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amara
March 13, 2020 at 10:43 AM
the world went crazy over parasite because of its content, not it's precise originality. we have single white female, funny games (or watever the fuck that movie is called), killing of a sacred deer, etc but it was what it represented that the world desperately need(ed) that was what shook people (and the point was very incredibly missed as we can see) and the care and beauty with it. a perfect example of how content and writing and care amplify something to a star-studded level
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24 HelenaCan
March 13, 2020 at 7:40 AM
Thank you for this essay and a very accurate description of what irks me most in kdramas. With time and experience, I learned to distance myself from ruinous and improbable endings (W, City Hunter etc.): I just consider them as a fan service or a consolation for the faint of heart. Boredom and draggy cinematography are harder to forgive. How did Holo Love manage to be draggy for so long with so little episodes?
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amara
March 13, 2020 at 10:40 AM
wow i barely remember city hunter's ending i just remember one dude dies lmao
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 13, 2020 at 12:29 PM
I still maintain City Hunter was a spoof and nobody can convince me otherwise.
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stpauligurl
March 13, 2020 at 6:28 PM
City Hunter remains a show that I will never understand why people loved it so.
Healer on the other hand.......
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25 eternalpnk
March 13, 2020 at 8:06 AM
I abandoned K2 halfway through. And will always remember what it could have been.
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stpauligurl
March 14, 2020 at 7:57 AM
The only good thing about the K2 was that fun shower fight...
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26 Bob
March 13, 2020 at 9:13 AM
Earlier this year I reset my K-drama outrage meter. 'Melting Me Softly' showed me what a genuinely BAD drama looks like. Compared to that our usual gripes and complaints seem minor. Not liking how an otherwise decent drama ended does not automatically turn it into a BAD drama. Neither does cutaway from kiss scenes or piggyback rides. A genuinely BAD drama is bad to the bone, a misguided folly that should never have been undertaken in the first place.
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canxi
March 13, 2020 at 12:37 PM
I don't think anyone is saying these thing make a bad drama but they can certainly lessen the enjoyment.
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stpauligurl
March 13, 2020 at 6:29 PM
I didn't watch Melty - but I did read the comments - which were so much fun.
Vagabond on the other hand, I watched until the end and couldn't believe I finished it.
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27 amara
March 13, 2020 at 10:39 AM
drama crimes mostly rest (for me) on societal issues that the writers cant interrogate well or harbor in their writing. if something is good to you, then it's good, even with it's massive flaws. a big one is knowing what you're getting into before you dive into it, or if the drama isn't what you're expecting but you can adjust your mind accordingly it can work.
and some writers, actors, crews just arent capable of it. theres well lauded dramas i don't care about at all/dislike (my ahjussi) and that's due to one of the biggest drama crimes of all: bad. fucking. acting. (imo)
but everyone has their opinion and likes and maybe i haven't adjusted myself to the acting in the show, expecting way too much because i'm pretentious.
i used to dread watching dramas because of time skips. i am so glad that's in the past mostly!! i haven't seen any of the dramas you mentioned i think and at this point in my drama watching i know why: romance commits the most sins in my book (which goes back to aforementioned societal issues that are written into the text)
i have a very thin tolerance these days anyway.
re: critique — this is part of human life. it's natural. any form of media, culture, whatever cannot exist without it. critique doesn't eclipse enjoyment but i think word of mouth and the sense of immediacy (even tho it's much smaller in the drama community which is WHY i watch dramas) affects that to a large degree. while i don't take most dramas as seriously as i would film nor do i think it has the range (mostly) and i barely believe we can achieve a show (in sk, in the us, anywhere) with a solid world that i would like to see that transcends the trappings of our ~*~**~neoliberal mindset~*~* it is still a piece of work. not everything is enjoyed, can be enjoyed, or is beyond critique and part of that enjoyment IS critique. especially if it's a pattern that is so glaringly obvious within writing and structure. the problem with dramas that ultimately fail can really be paired down to: preparation, overwork, concern about ratings(... and...drumroll...capitalism) which is why (IMO) pre-produced is a much better way to go. anyways i just wanted to address that too...and some people are also better at critiquing than others, or discussion in general, i have been opened up to new ways of thinking from people asking more questions than i would have thought of tbh
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amara
March 13, 2020 at 10:55 AM
oh someone wrote above that in their opinion my ahjussi is perfect and for me the drama that this would be is: Stranger/FoS
there is one MAJOR flaw at the end but it would be impossible to hate the show for it (just the logic absolutely does NOT track oh my god.) but it's one of those shows where almost the whole cast is good and the writing is almost impeccable and that the writer took insane care with (first pre produced kdrama too right?) and something tvn and netflix should be...if i ever were to laud a company ever...be lauded for. but a lot of that has to do with what i picked up after and how much i think that show managed to interrogate patriarchy in subtle ways. some that i might have made up. oh well!
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 13, 2020 at 12:31 PM
I'm guilty of saying that my Ahjussi is perfect! But I will add that I only have two or three 10/10 dramas and Forest of Secrets is the second on that list. It was also pretty well perfect. The third is Sky Castle.
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stpauligurl
March 13, 2020 at 6:31 PM
yep - nods head at your text @leetennant
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amara
March 13, 2020 at 7:32 PM
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amara
March 13, 2020 at 7:34 PM
i know it's a general fav ahahah it's one of those few things that i dislike that pretty much everyone of all tastes agrees on which is why i dont rly talk about it/critique it bc it's a one woman show (also it isnt a big deal)
as it should be @leetennant
sky castle is def up there. idk if i can watch it again and i feel like i can imagine a reality where that show could be written with more impact (re: mothers and hoarding of mobility/wealth/whatever.) but all that said it's pretty fuckin impeccable.
i'm impressed how the writer managed to make these absurd female characters that we loved to watch. made me really appreciate crazy bitches and well written onessss
amara
March 13, 2020 at 11:00 AM
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amara
March 13, 2020 at 11:01 AM
wow u rly opened a can of worms for me. i am sorry.
an actual drama crime in a crime drama: sexual violence against women ONLY. it's actually pathetic that in my head i have to weigh the deaths of men against women, but i cannot watch any crime drama that features death of women as the main plot point (mostly..nobody knows is diff in its execution.) i actually love signal (not as much as FoS and i said what i said) but i can't rewatch it because of this glaring issue. it's so offensive to me in all shows (that one show on HBO...i love luther a lot but that one had some big issues but also the writing and vividness of the violence of that world is chef's kiss) but what tehse shows have an issue with is that they present it and then totalyl fucking gloss over why this WOULD plague women. i remember in signal someone said something along the lines of "rape is a bad crime but i can't forgive murder" and to me i'm like.....so we're just gonna miss the whole point of why these bitches are dying? ok.
same with voice (besides asshole detective), tunnel, so many others. refuse to go into my line of sight bc u do this but u can't even fuckin figure out or drop Hints about what women, esp in sk/more sexually conservative societies (idk how to word this so if you want me to explain further ask), must go through to endure this attack and why it can't seem to be alleviated (besides cops existing..)
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amruta1009
March 13, 2020 at 11:40 AM
It's why I tend to avoid watching most crime dramas. I don't like seeing voilence against women being the main plot point either.
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MikeyD signed up
March 13, 2020 at 11:41 AM
There's an unfortunate trope from American TV and films called 'fridging'. That's where a female character gets violated, killed and/or literally stuffed into a refrigerator merely to progress the story. I recall years ago a female star in an American series put her foot down "No, you're not going to give me ANOTHER rape storyline."
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amara
March 13, 2020 at 11:44 AM
oh yea i remember when it was soooo popular esp in tv like from comic books or action/adventure...i stopped watching mostly us/uk tv shows but yea. VERY VERY IRRITATING
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amruta1009
March 13, 2020 at 11:45 AM
Yes that, I hate that.
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amruta1009
March 13, 2020 at 11:51 AM
Even my favorite drama have some of these problems.
amara
March 13, 2020 at 7:28 PM
same re: fav dramas
like i said i love the first couple of seasons of luther. it sucks that we get used to shit like this though and i guess better late than never to remember the pattern is dangerous.
28 welh
March 13, 2020 at 10:40 AM
My number one drama crime could actually be a crime. It is when a spoiled, selfish chaebol heir relentlessly stalks a young woman to be his girlfriend/wife even after several to dozens of rejections. This character entitlement and aggressive behavior of wearing down/brainwashing/threatening/bribing a woman into a "real" relationship is horrible drama. It is worst when the writer makes the woman suddenly fall for the creep in order to make "a happy ending."
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 13, 2020 at 12:40 PM
This. But I don't know how many times I can write, "This relationship is abusive!" before people get tired of me doing it. Stalking, harassment and abuse isn't romantic.
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MikeyD signed up
March 13, 2020 at 4:47 PM
I was watching an (admittedly bad) 2014 K-drama recently where they did a full-on old-school 'wrist grab'. The jerk hero stormed in and grabbed an adult woman (not even a girlfriend), physically dragging out of her own workplace by force. 'Oh, no, 'I thought, 'these days you're not supposed to DO stuff like'
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stpauligurl
March 13, 2020 at 6:33 PM
Are you perhaps referring to "900 million
Won Woman?"
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29 amruta1009
March 13, 2020 at 12:54 PM
Being on Dramabeans has made me more critical of stuff. Now even if it's not a kdrama I can't help but criticise it for any problems a story might have. What didn't use to bother me before or I avoided thinking about it and tolerate I can't as easily tolerate now.
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amruta1009
March 13, 2020 at 12:55 PM
I am still more forgiving of most drama crimes.
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30 theTINYL
March 13, 2020 at 1:04 PM
My current biggest drama crime? Grown a$$ adult leads who act and aegyo together like they're tweens under the supervision of Sister Mary Joseph the chaperone. **sideeyes CLOY**
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Bob
March 13, 2020 at 4:54 PM
I used to know a woman who was into aegyo (or the Italian-American equivalent) bigtime. The pouty expression, the baby talk, the giggling, the poking. She was also big into hugging. Way more hugging than was normal. This lasted well into her 30s and beyond.
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31 loveblossom🌸
March 13, 2020 at 1:36 PM
This article is great, thanks missvictrix! I agree with so much that has been mentioned already. I'm pretty forgiving with kdramas and, at times, I don't notice some issues, but I've learned about different perspectives and critiques from being on Dramabeans.
A small pet peeve in kdramas is the bloody lip look. I think they are going for the gradient lip look (which I usually don’t mind), but some actresses are only wearing lip gloss and unevenly at that. I want to see more full, lipstick looks.
(Also chapped lips. But this applies to almost any show. LOL)
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pickleddragon
March 13, 2020 at 8:57 PM
Slightly different issue, and I'm aware of this being taken as a sexist comment, but actors wearing too much lipstick really puts me off. For example, YSH's makeup in MY STRANGE HERO, which was as annoying as the show was hilariously good.
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latebloomer
March 14, 2020 at 8:43 AM
Too much lipstick or just the absolute wrong shade of lipstick, especially on men.
Also, those zoom-in-until-we-can-see-the-pores-on-their-face shots, esp. when what they reveal is a heavy layer of makeup.
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32 Ayan
March 13, 2020 at 3:35 PM
I just realised I haven't watched the ending of gu family book, I think I have one episode left to watch. I really enjoyed kang chi's parents and the story of how they met and fell in love. In my opinion, they should have dropped everything else.
I get to a point when a show is so bad, I'm tempted to keep going to see how it will be resolved. I have hope that the writer will come to their senses and fix it. Unfortunately forest seems to be getting worse by the minute and I'm put off by Jo Boa's acting .
Another show which I watched to the end and regretted was A thing called first love, a cdrama. I was expecting a cute fluffy coming of age romance, instead we got 30+ of boredom.
The worst part is when the couple finally got together and dated, they broke up the next episode.
Each drama seems to follow the same blueprint and I'm so tired of it. Please can we just get rid of ep 12/13/14 mandatory break up and noble idiocy.
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33 klmeri
March 13, 2020 at 6:03 PM
Drama crime: obliterating its own logic.
Yes, I am talking about none other than Doctor Stranger. The show whose sense made no sense. There's nothing worse than holding out hope for a drama's storyline to finally make sense only to have it never ever do so.
A truly horrific crime!
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
March 13, 2020 at 6:11 PM
This is contingent on the premise that Doctor Stranger ever had logic. But I still remember getting to the end and realising that the bad guy's "cunning plan" literally didn't need Park Hoon at all so everything that happened was meaningless.
I enjoyed the polyamorous romance between Park Hoon, Oh Soo-hyun and Park Who Jin's character though, which is a thing that definitely happened and not something I made up in my head while watching.
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welh
March 14, 2020 at 7:30 AM
In this vain, I find k-dramas have a hard time with science fiction stories. It take extra effort to create a new world with consistent rules of its own nature and mythology. It is so frustrating when a writer sets a standard universe rule then in a few episodes abandons it, reverses it, forgets about it, or does not explain an opposite event.
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Esnips
March 14, 2020 at 3:54 PM
You gotta watch circle.. it is kdrama sci fi done right!
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34 pickleddragon
March 13, 2020 at 9:02 PM
This is such a great thread to have started off, @missvictrix - clearly we all have a laundry list of crimes to complain about!
One drama crime that really gets to me is when childhood sequences are depicted using the grown up adult actors as their own child/teenage versions. A current example is WHEN THE WEATHER IS FINE, where PMY and SKJ are shown as high school students, when, duh, they don't look anything like it. I can't make the mental switch to thinking of them as young adults. I suppose this would apply universally to actors (not) playing age-appropriate roles, but it especially grates me in the adulthood/childhood sequence.
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35 David C Wallace
March 14, 2020 at 3:41 AM
City Hunter's unhappy ending is a crime on the level of Game of Thrones.
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36 Dorotka
March 14, 2020 at 8:27 AM
Yes, K2's biggest crime was the wrong pairing. I punished it by leaving the show halfway... and yes, I fantasized about what it could have been (Ji Chang-wook and Song Yoon-ah were truly magnetic together).
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37 books7time
March 14, 2020 at 12:25 PM
Don't get me started on manufactured angst. I feel manipulated and any enjoyment is overwhelmed by my disgust at the (poor) writing. Angst has its place and well written conflict makes us appreciate the happy endings. We are not stupid. We know the difference.
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38 pickleddragon
March 14, 2020 at 8:50 PM
Another one came to mind today - overuse of flashbacks. It makes sense when it is really actually needed to move the story forward. But when it's used in the guise of "reminding the viewers of what happened in the past" but is actually nothing but a time-filler, I want to throw something at the screen. Writers should credit their audiences with a little more intelligence, or write sharper shows, or reduce the episode length...
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39 parkchuna 🍉
March 14, 2020 at 8:56 PM
In the old days Oppa can help to overcome most crimes, now, not so much.
But... I did finish Vagabond 🙈
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40 nonski ⭐️A forever JIN who crash landed on Hyun Bins heart❤️!
March 15, 2020 at 9:42 AM
You are right tho, it depends on the perspective.
For me, the biggest crime a drama can do is having a bad ending, from mild to horrendously bad ending, it spells the same to me. I feel like I have wasted the hours I had invested watching. In fairness I did finish Vagabond.
Second is if its boredom almost kills me. K2,
Another things is when what I am watching doesn't make sense even when suspension of disbelief is already summoned. So many I can't recall but the most recent is the one with two sports car driven in the forest.
I can also recall one drama, a c-drama, Go Go Squid, which i truly liked, except if maybe they can release another version where they would take out all the flashback scenes, it nearly killed me. (lols)
With years of watching kdrama, I am already so used to tropes and cliches and such but for the life of me, I just cannot with Melting Me Softy. It's cringy scenes just wanna make me barf and it's not few.
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