Search Query: WWW: Episode 14
by LollyPip
Watching these strong, capable women is so much fun, but it’s doubly painful to see them so hurt by love. Thankfully, they’re as outspoken in their personal lives as they are at work, so they’re bound to come to some resolutions, though it may take a little while. Sometimes the answer is to let someone else be in control for a while, which is the hardest thing in the word for our heroines to do.
EPISODE 14 RECAP
Brian is back in charge at Barro, and Ga-kyung has been promoted to CEO of Unicon Korea. They’re both presented with the rule change allowing the government to request that items be taken off the real-time rankings, and they both refuse to sign off on it.
The shift in power makes the news, and In-kyung runs to Chairwoman Jang after being removed from her position. She gets on her knees to beg for help, but Chairwoman Jang snaps that she’s too stupid to be of assistance to her anymore, especially now that she’s lost her connections.
Chairwoman Jang is on her way to meet with President Seo, who accuses her of deliberately getting in his way. He threatens KU Group if she is, but she tells him that she’s seen a lot of presidents come and go, but a conglomerate holds power for a long time. President Seo sneers that the people want the government to regulate conglomerates, so Chairwoman Jang backs up and says they need a new plan.
Brian holds a small meeting where he says that he was trying to be responsible by resigning, but now he feels it was irresponsible. He says he expects to be criticized for returning, but he promises to keep a healthy fear of criticisms towards Barro and take them to heart.
In a similar meeting at Unicon, Ga-kyung promises her employees that her decisions will be for the good of the company, and nothing else. She asks them to follow her as she guides Unicon into setting its own pace.
She finds Chairwoman Jang waiting in her office and asks if she’s here to discuss alimony. Chairwoman Jang asks how it feels to be CEO, and Ga-kyung says she’s just taking Chairwoman Jang’s advice and learning what she’s capable of. Chairwoman Jang wonders if Ga-kyung is confident about her past, since CEOs undergo a lot of scrutiny.
Ga-kyung tosses the photos of Jin-woo with his mistresses at Chairwoman Jang and warns her not to try attacking her anymore, or she’ll retaliate in kind. Chairwoman Jang chuckles that she’s here to talk about Unicon approaching KU Group to partner in the development of robotic AI. She knows that Ga-kyung was unaware of this, and gloats that Ga-kyung won’t be able to do her job without KU Group’s help.
As soon as Barro announces their new user-advertising space on the main page, thousands of applications pour in. Brian comes to officially greet Ta-mi’s team, and he compliments Ah-ra on her great idea.
Ji-hwan’s manager takes him for some cake, which he won’t get much of in the army. Ji-hwan says he feels bad for leaving after signing a contract and starting to get role offers, but his manager tells him to focus on spending this last month with those he loves.
Mo-gun is at Da-in’s place working on music for his next game, and he tells Da-in that his girlfriend is learning to play the piano. Da-in is disappointed to hear that he’s seeing someone, especially when Sun-woo teases Mo-gun for making such a fuss over her.
Mo-gun goes to see Ta-mi afterward, and he can tell that she’s already had a drink or two to celebrate Brian’s return. He invites her for round two, but she’s still feeling the effects of her previous drinks, so he pulls her up for a piggyback ride. He tells Ta-mi to nap while he walks, though he quips that he’d rather not let her sleep (rawr).
As she nods off on his shoulder, Ta-mi says that she loves Mo-gun’s jokes and the world he creates. He says that now he’s scared of being punished for being so happy. Ta-mi is asleep, and Mo-gun mutters to himself that he should have carried her princess-style, because now he misses her.
Hyun can’t stop thinking about Ji-hwan, and how he promised not to contact her anymore. She accidentally catches the commercial he made for What’s Wrong With My Mother-In-Law? on TV, and she bursts into loud, ugly tears, wailing, “Don’t go! Don’t gooo!”
Ga-kyung and Jin-woo meet with the divorce lawyer, and as they leave, Ga-kyung says that she’s surprised that divorce is so simple. Jin-woo says it should be, since the road to divorce isn’t. He admits that he’s not sure what his last words to Ga-kyung should be, but she knows what she wants to say.
She thanks Jin-woo for being miserable beside her all those years, and her gratitude embarrasses him. He notes that they’re both dressed up and asks Ga-kyung if she’s going somewhere. She says she’s going to his movie premier, and soon they’re standing on the red carpet together.
Jin-woo watches Ga-kyung during the movie, smiling every time she smiles. But halfway through the film, someone whispers something in his ear, and he takes Ga-kyung’s hand and pulls her out of the theater.
While discussing the launch event for Barro’s new main page, Hyun checks the list of applicants for the user ad space and sees Ji-hwan’s name with a star beside it. He’s requesting an ad that says “Please buy a rose from the lady at Seonnam Station,” and it’s been approved.
Hyun notices that Ga-kyung and Jin-woo are both on the real-time rankings, and Jenny looks it up and sees that the photo of Jin-woo with a famous tennis player has been posted online. Interestingly, Chairwoman Jang isn’t behind this — she instructs her secretary to look into In-kyung’s whereabouts.
As Jin-woo leads Ga-kyung out of the theater, she makes a call to have Unicon’s legal team sue whoever leaked the photo. He spots some reporters and pulls Ga-kyung into an alcove, where they’re both affected by the close proximity. Ga-kyung says that hiding like this feels like they’re the ones having an affair, and Jin-woo smiles a little as he says they can’t be having an affair, since they don’t love each other.
On his way home, Ji-hwan stops at the subway flower lady again and buys all of her roses but one, saving that one for her granddaughter. As he walks away, he turns back to see her lay her last rose on the platform, then pray beside it for a moment.
He takes the rest of the roses to the place where his dog Seol-hee’s ashes are interred — awww, it’s her one-year memorial day. He tells Seol-hee that he’s joining the army and may not be able to visit her next year, and says he wishes she were still here and could help him know what to do.
As he heads home, Ji-hwan is upset to see that his mural is gone. As soon as he gets to the street he catches a taxi, just barely missing Hyun, who was right behind him. He goes to her place but her lights are out, and when he reaches for his phone, it’s not on him.
He calls it from a pay phone and learns that it’s at the subway lost and found. When he gets there, there’s nobody at the desk, but he spots his little flip-phone on a shelf when it starts ringing. Hyun is there, calling it from her own phone, and she grins when she finds it.
Her smile fades when she spots Ji-hwan, and she says she was looking for it since he left it on the subway. Ji-hwan says he’s also been looking for something all day, and he asks why she called him after telling him not to call her. She says she wanted to ask him if she’s just a fan to him: “What do you really think of me? You’ve never told me.”
Ji-hwan says he chased after her because he thought she was angry that he called her, and bought her a gift, and even walked her home. He asks who does things like that for a fan, or stands in front of their house hoping they’ll come back out, but he says there’s nothing he can do if she says she’s only his fan.
Even if she says she’s not just a fan, he complains that he only has a month, and it’s making him crazy. Hyun darts in and kisses him, stammering that she goes crazy when she sees him. She apologizes for kissing him then starts to wail that she should have done it sooner.
Ji-hwan stops her with a longer, deeper kiss. His phone starts to ring, but when Hyun holds it up, he just gently takes her wrist and pulls it down without even breaking the kiss. In fact, they don’t stop kissing for a very, very long time.
Jin-woo gets a lecture from Ga-kyung’s father, who says that in exchange for never discussing this again, Jin-woo isn’t allowed to divorce Ga-kyung. Jin-woo gets angry when Ga-kyung’s father says he’s on Jin-woo’s side, so he informs him that the divorce papers have already been filed and that Ga-kyung’s father is never to visit him again.
Barro’s new main page goes live, and Ta-mi takes the subway to work the next morning so she can peek at people’s phones, noting that most of them are on Barro. Ah-ra’s user ad space works perfectly, scrolling through everything from family business ads, to personal messages, to someone looking for his old army buddies.
After recording some music for Mo-gun’s game, Da-in offers him a ride home. She gathers her courage and confesses that she likes him, and that it hurt to hear he has a girlfriend. She admits that she thought about waiting until he and his girlfriend break up to tell him her feelings.
As she continues, Mo-gun sees Ta-mi standing not far away, but where Da-in can’t see her. Ta-mi hears Da-in say that she doesn’t care about his girlfriend’s feelings and ask Mo-gun to give her a chance, and Ta-mi turns and walks off. Mo-gun tells Da-in that he he doesn’t want to ask his girlfriend if she’s okay with that, and he goes after Ta-mi.
When he catches up, he asks Ta-mi why she didn’t stay and get angry after hearing Da-in’s confession. Ta-mi says that Da-in is her piano teacher, so she already knows that Da-in likes him. She tells him how it was nice to see Da-in happy and in love until she realized at the recital that the object of Da-in’s affection is Mo-gun.
Mo-gun asks why Ta-mi didn’t tell Da-in to back off, or warn him not to see her again, especially when she knows that both he and Da-in want to get married someday. Ta-mi says that she’s confident he won’t waver, but she’s been miserable anyway because one day when he feels ready for marriage, someone else like Da-in will come along and then he might leave her.
In a tight voice, Mo-gun asks if Ta-mi ever thinks about the present, and the fact that they love each other. She counters that love doesn’t solve everything, and can even ruin your life, or the life of the one you love. She says she’s not okay with that, since she’s the destroyer in this scenario.
Ga-kyung talks to her board of directors about the fact that Barro’s new main page is a wild success, and could push Unicon down to second place. Rather than place blame, she says she wants to take initiative, and asks for their help.
The head of the development team reports that KU Group turned down their AI collaboration offer, and is considering working with Barro instead. Another director blames this on Ga-kyung’s relationship with her in-laws after Jin-woo’s scandal, and Ga-kyung asks if he’s suggesting she manage her personal life for the benefit of the company.
Later, In-kyung is in a casual meeting with several industry heavy-hitters, who roll their eyes every time she talks. Ga-kyung shows up, and In-kyung watches incredulously as the others fawn all over her. Ga-kyung calls out In-kyung for avoiding her calls and making her come find her, and she takes In-kyung out with her.
She tells In-kyung that she knows she posted the pictures of Jin-woo online to get back at Chairwoman Jang. She tells In-kyung that nobody will hire her after being rejected by Chairwoman Jang, and asks if she’s ready to serve her now, making it clear that In-kyung is now beneath her and will be required to address her as her boss.
After taking out an ad on Barro telling people about the lady at the subway station who lost her granddaughter in an accident, Ji-hwan looks so happy to see a line of people waiting to buy flowers from her. Hyun finds him there and, grinning, Ji-hwan asks Hyun if she followed him. She’s obviously lying when she says it’s just a coincidence.
She gives him a rose to congratulate him on finishing his drama and invites him to her place to watch the finale. He’s oddly nervous about it, and during the big scene where the mother-in-law confesses that she’s actually thirty years older than she looks, he jumps in front of Hyun and says they should stop watching.
Hyun shoves him out of the way, then full-body squees at the big finale kiss scene (HA, no wonder Ji-hwan was nervous!). She belatedly realizes that that’s her man kissing another woman, and she asks if he liked kissing the actress while he stammers that it’s just his job and of course Hyun is WAY prettier.
Mollified, Hyun asks Ji-hwan when he’s going to stop addressing her formally (he calls her “Cha Hyun-nim” which is so freaking cute). Ji-hwan is reluctant until Hyun mentions that her heart pounded when he spoke informally to her at the bar, then he’s all happy smiles.
Da-in tells Ta-mi that she saw Ta-mi and Mo-gun fighting, and asks how long she’s known that Mo-gun’s her first love. Ta-mi says she didn’t know until the recital, and that she didn’t tell Da-in because it’s not like Da-in would have stopped caring for Mo-gun.
Da-in says that she wouldn’t have confessed to Mo-gun if she’d known Ta-mi was his girlfriend. She remembers Ta-mi saying that she was going to end things with Mo-gun (before they dated), and says she feels sorry for him if he’s not truly being loved. She tells Ta-mi that if the one who loves him more wins, then she’s the winner.
While Mo-gun is visiting with his birth mother, he asks her how it felt to give him up for adoption, and what her reasoning was. She says she felt like anything would be better for him that staying with her, because she was poor and her life was a mess.
She explains that she didn’t want to ruin his future to make herself happy by keeping him, and says she’s sorry. Mo-gun tells her that the woman she saw him with at the mall is actually his girlfriend (and it kills me that the way he says it is as if he knows it’s his only chance).
He goes to meet Ta-mi when she gets off work, and he takes her to the schoolyard where there’s no internet or cell reception. She tells him that Da-in saw them fighting the other day, and that Da-in doesn’t think she loves Mo-gun enough, but Mo-gun says he felt Ta-mi’s love.
Ta-mi admits that she’s jealous of how strong Da-in’s feelings are for him. Mo-gun says that he thought being okay with how things were would make them okay, and he didn’t understand why Ta-mi was so worried about his future when he said he didn’t care about marriage.
But now he says he gets it — even if he’s okay with it, that doesn’t mean she has to be. He says that he was scared to understand because it would mean breaking up, and Ta-mi confesses that she’d hoped he would never understand and would beg her to stay so she’d have an excuse.
Mo-gun says that at least they loved each other, and that it was meaningful, and Ta-mi agrees. He’s fighting back tears as he tells Ta-mi that he’ll let her go now, and he asks her to keep her promise only to come to this place with him. But he apologizes if something happens and she needs to, and he can’t be with her.
Ta-mi walks away without another word, and Mo-gun finally lets his tears fall. Ta-mi makes it to her car before she also starts to cry, and when Bong-ki calls to tell her the exciting news that Barro just passed Unicon in market shares, she lies that she’s crying from happiness.
COMMENTS
I finally figured out the one major reason why Hyun has been so adamant that she’s Ji-hwan’s fan and nothing else — when they met, one of the first things he said to her was that he had an old flip-phone because he likes things to be clearly one thing and not several things. No doubt she’s been trying to stay in her lane because of that, and not cross over into personal territory, because she thought he disliked it. What she didn’t realize was that while she was thinking he saw her as a fan and was desperately trying to only be a fan, Ji-hwan has only ever seen her as someone he loves. So by trying to be just a fan, Hyun was actually hurting and confusing him.
It’s so sweet that all Hyun had to do was say she likes him, and Ji-hwan was right there with her. I wish he had said something sooner, but he’s a man of action, not words, and he was telling Hyun with his every action that he loves her. Following her, buying her gifts, calling her when good things happened — those were his confession, and he confessed so many times. But Hyun just wasn’t getting the message, so I’m glad she finally broke and blurted out her feelings so that Ji-hwan could swoop in with his actions and confirm his own (and how awesome was that kiss?? I swooned so hard). Now we just have to watch them try to cram an entire relationship into one month, which I hope is more cute than painful.
And then there’s Ta-mi and Mo-gun, who talk and talk but who can’t seem to come to an agreement on whether their relationship is even supposed to exist. It’s frustrating to watch because they’re both right in their own ways. Ta-mi is right that love isn’t enough to sustain a relationship long-term, that you have to have the same goals and dreams, or at least have goals and dreams that don’t cancel each other out. And neither of them should have to give up what they want or compromise, if that’s not what they want.
Mo-gun said that he loves Ta-mi more than he wants to get married, but that doesn’t mean he’s stopped wanting marriage and a family, and Ta-mi can never give him that. But I also feel his frustration with Ta-mi’s inability to just enjoy the now and stop worrying about what might happen someday. One or both of them may feel differently in a few years, and it’s a sunk-cost fallacy for Ta-mi to think that they can’t love each other now just because they might break up later.
However, I think that hearing his mother explain why she gave him up matured Mo-gun a lot in just a few moments. He suddenly realized that Ta-mi cares for him enough to sacrifice her present happiness for his future, and that letting him go is her way of loving him. It’s always been her way of loving him, but as he said, he was willfully refusing to understand for fear of losing her. But now he knows that letting Ta-mi go and freeing her from guilt is also the best way to love her in return, which is heartbreaking, but I don’t think either of them is wrong. They may find a way around this, or they may not, but at least now they’ve found something they agree on, even if it’s that maybe it’s better that they aren’t together.
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1 Mai
July 31, 2019 at 4:15 PM
This episode...😈
A couple is made while a couple is broken.
STOP PLAYING WITH MY HEART!😞😢
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2 liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
July 31, 2019 at 4:58 PM
*in Hyun's voice* THEY KISSED! THEY FINALLY KISSED! AQWSSJDWUSOF
Ji-hwan is really proving to be the sweetest puppy. The ad he made for the granny at the subway touched me and other people's hearts. And Hyun? She is really the cutest puppy squealing over her actor's drama and getting jealous after.
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halfmoon
July 31, 2019 at 11:20 PM
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3 stpauligurl
July 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM
Thank you @lollypip for recapping this absolutely marvelous show. I have a few comments.
1. When Ga-Kyung and her ex-husband were huddling so close together - the feels were so intense I half expected him to lean in and kiss her. I wonder what would have happened if he'd done that?
2. That kiss in the lost and found was increeeeeedddiiibble..... in fact I had to replay it a few times just to make sure I caught all the music *cough* - but seriously how they managed to add his phone ring into the music was magic.
3. "Later, In-kyung is in a casual meeting with several industry heavy-hitters, who roll their eyes every time she talks." Okay, was I the only one who was reminded of the video of tRumps daughter Ivanka talking to the world leaders and sounding like an idiot? Do you think they used that as a way to describe what a dumb sycophant In-kyung was?
4. Ta-mi and Park Mo-gun - whatever...I just couldn't get interested in that story. sorry.
This is the first week without WWW and I miss tuning in to see what new wonderful show!
May this writer do another one - soon!!!
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Moonbean
August 1, 2019 at 3:43 AM
LOL at your reference to Ivanka...
And I second your wish wholeheartedly: "May this writer do another one - soon!!!" If a writer can engage me in her story so much even when I couldn't care less about her main love line I am there whatever she writes next.
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Yn00na
August 1, 2019 at 4:35 PM
+1. I'm on withdrawal and really hoping this writer get to do another drama soon. Such solid writing!
I'm on the same boat in longing for more kinship between Ga Kyung and the husband. Frankly I think their story alone could be a standalone show which i would be very excited to watch.
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4 HANI
July 31, 2019 at 6:58 PM
The intensity of GY and JW scenes is just...fuh~ hot~ I wonder how they film those scenes because their chemistry is so so good. They compliment each other so well so I always look forward to their scenes.
JH and CH scenes, I'm pretty sure beanies have been swooning about it but it was so cute and hot at the same time. A different kind of hot from GY and JW but totally hot. Especially when he reach and hold her hand and the blinking phones~ the setting is so nice and bts is quite funny too. Yes~ I look for it at yt
lol
PM and Tami are just... I mean, while I understand and get what they trying to deliver, I just...not...really...feeling...it with these two. It is not because their scenes are quieter than the other two but it just didn't reach me.
I'm glad for Barro's teamwork, GY/JW, JH/CH and CH/Tami because if it is up to PM/Tami, I probably abandon this
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5 Kumara
July 31, 2019 at 7:36 PM
It is incredibly, incredibly difficult to live only “in the now” in a relationship when the two of you have different goals. Very well framed - Ta Mi and Mo Geun are basically living my relationship right now, except I eventually want to get married and am constantly assessing whether I should break it off, and he doesn’t want to get married and wants to live in the now. It is a weird middle ground to inhabit; I mean, it’s nice or I wouldn’t be doing it, but I also know it’s almost guaranteed to end. Even if the other person suddenly did a 180, it’s very hard to just trust that it’s genuine or would stick.
I know Ta Mi doesn’t want marriage, but I don’t recall her saying she doesn’t want kids. Did I just miss that bit? Is she rejecting family life in general, or just marriage?
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
July 31, 2019 at 7:52 PM
This is very interesting. You just reminded me that whenever the man in a relationship doesn't want to get married, we usually think he has commitment issues or worse. I haven't seen that brought up in the discussions so far about Ta Mi. I may be wrong since I didn't read every comment but that's the impression I got. In fact, more are hoping that Ta Mi will not 'give in' and say yes to marriage. Does this have to do with us not wanting drama trope - marriage = happily ever after or do we apply this in real life? If it's the latter, then isn't it double standard?
I don't recall Ta Mi saying she didn't want to have kids either. It probably goes hand in hand with her not wanting marriage although it's more that she rejecting marriage life first before even thinking about kids.
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shach
August 1, 2019 at 12:16 AM
I think because Korea is still very conservative in that terms, it never cross my mind that kids out of wedlock would be an option for Tami, and her reasoning against being married was that she is barely able to take care of herself.
I am at the age where a lot of my acquaintances are in process of breaking up or divorced because "love is not enough" and decided that caving in for "the love" wasn't worth it in the end. So yeah for me marriage is not happy ending with so serious difference in expectations at the beginning of relationship.
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
August 1, 2019 at 1:37 AM
Theoretically, the possibility of being in an unhappy marriage should not deter people from getting married. If that's the case, we shouldn't even fall in love because just as many relationships thrive, many fail.
Getting out of a marriage is of course stickier than a relationship. Besides the obvious, divorce may be frown upon in some societies. But I am not sure if that is what Ta Mi is concerned about. We have never seen her family and she looks confident enough not to be bothered with the stigma.
Since we are given no background as to why Ta Mi feels so strongly against marriage, I can only infer that it's her personal preference. There's nothing wrong with that but it puzzles me at the same time. I would like to ask her - what exactly is it that bothers her about marriage?
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shach
August 1, 2019 at 3:54 AM
I wrote about my perspective why I don't want them to end together with so different expectation from relationship.
I think TaMi was already burned once (LDW cameo), that's what made her wary of "living in the moment".
She said once and she always have to explain her choice as if it's something wrong so I'm not sure if she would welcome your question ;)
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
August 1, 2019 at 8:03 AM
@shach
It's not whether she made the wrong choice or the need to explain but I'd really like to know. Did she ever tell Mogun the reason(s)? If I missed it, please share.
Assuming if Mogun doesn't mind if he has children or not, then why does he want marriage? Is it the idea of having his own family that appeals to him? Consider Ta Mi who doesn't want marriage - Does the idea of family repulse her so much? Assuming she 'just doesn't want it/like it' then is that preference or feeling against it so strong that she will give up love just because of it?
If she doesn't believe in the sanctification of marriage, then marriage should just be a state of being which if it works out well, then fine. If it doesn't, she can always get out of that state.
shach
August 1, 2019 at 8:22 AM
@outofthisworld, I don't know how it's sounds in Korean but my understanding was that Morgan wants "family" for me it implies kids too, and TaMi don't want get married because of expectation marriage put on couple, which I think include kids too. And I thought that sexism in SK could be one of the reason too.
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
August 1, 2019 at 8:33 AM
That could be the reason but I'd appreciate it if the drama had them talking about kids being the issue, rather than marriage. More and more couples these days are choosing not to have children, it's reflected in the declining birth rates in East Asia. If I am a S.Korean or Japanese woman, I'd probably not want to have kids too from the sexism I see in these societies.
shach
August 1, 2019 at 9:55 AM
@outofthisworld, I think in Korea having kids is so connected to marriage that for writers it was interchangeable? I found that in 2013/14 percentage of unmarried registered mothers was 1.5, and there is no cohabitations data because it's such a new concept in Korea, here is the article https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6070151/
Nat
August 1, 2019 at 4:36 PM
Ta Mi doesn't have an issue with commitment though - it's just the legal marriage. I recall her saying that she doesn't want the government involved in her personal relationship and that it's more meaningful when people are together when they want to be rather than because they are bound by law. She also asked him to move in with her, so it's not commitment she fears at all. I did also want more of her background so that I could understand her better. I feel like we got background on everyone else except her.
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
August 1, 2019 at 10:55 PM
I can understand if she doesn't want to have kids(that's a whole different set of argument) but I find it harder to understand why she avoids marriage to the extent that she broke up with a man she loved(Lee Dong Wook cameo) , has broken up with Mogun and probably will again sometime in the future.
I can't remember her saying about the govt, if it's so then that's a lame excuse. To her, it's easier to break up a relationship but harder to break up a marriage? Somehow she feels there's more commitment to a marriage then a relationship because there's the law and that piece of paper. To me, the issue still boils down to commitment.
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greenfields
August 1, 2019 at 11:04 PM
I think rather than just a piece of paper, its the role of a "wife" with its baggage and expectations that she doesn't want to take on. Typically after marriage, women are expected to give up their jobs, have children, take care of the husband, etc. While dating, there is less responsibility to the other person and their family. Many studies for instance, show that women are happier without children or a spouse. I'm not saying this is necessarily true for all women, but its certainly true for many. [https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert]
So it is not just an question of commitment, it is a question of responsibility and compromise, and Ta-mi is perfectly within the right to say no to that.
Can I use my own example to illustrate this? I speak as one who is also avoiding marriage for the same reason. Lets say I'm in my late 20s, want to go to business school and work abroad after that, will it be possible with a husband who has his own job and career in this country? With the expectations of his parents, the responsibility of any children we may have, etc etc. It is a rare man that can support all that, and even then, the separation would be painful. I'd simply rather not get married right now, even if I'm dating someone.
Similarly, Ta-mi has a different circumstance but perfectly good reasons for saying no.
CHARLIE
August 1, 2019 at 11:14 PM
@greenfields . I agree. The word 'wife' comes with a lot of baggage. Let's not forget that for most of history women were viewed as a man's property and marriage was simply a transfer of property (with the corresponding payment in the form of dowry). Some people (myself included) have issues with the very idea of signing your life off to another person.
Then there are all the society expectations that come with the title... some of which you already mentioned - kids, being judged if you put work first, that you chose not to have kids, or you have them but still work... there's no way to win at that game.
Lastly, marriage is about promising to be with one person until you die. If you (rather realistically) don't believe romance is likely to last that long why pretend? One should make that kind of oath only if fully intended on keeping it.
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
August 1, 2019 at 11:23 PM
@greenfields
I concede that I can't understand fully because I don't live in S.Korea. But from what I've read and seen in their dramas - I am hardly surprised the women there chooses to be single.
However, we are not talking about S.Korean women in general. It's Ta Mi who's independent and lives by her own standards(at least that's what I'm led to believe). We don't see interfering parents or friends. Her boyfriend in question is not any guy but Mogun. I don't think Mogun's parents in Australia or even his birth mom would have much impact on the couple's life. What I am saying is that these two aren't your typical bound by tradition and family kind of people.
What they needed to do is to talk about their own perspectives about their respective roles, marriage, possibility of having kids etc. It's possibly an rare and lucky position in their society.
I think I can understand better about your position and choice. I got married without any expectations from my husband to give up my job or a commitment to have children. If the circumstances were different and at the age of 25, I'd think twice. There was no change in lifestyle after marriage. The huge change came when I had my first child. That's why I think having children is a totally different thing.
greenfields
August 1, 2019 at 11:45 PM
@outofthisworld - great points, and I completely agree. Ultimately it comes down to communication between the two of them, if they can talk through it, great! If not, then well, they break-up.
For this communication to happen though, maturity is needed not from Tami but from Mogun. So far, until ep 14, he's been nothing but unsure - he says its a bridge they can cross when they get to it. He's too young right now, he's okay with not getting married. I think Mogun needs to take a stand. "I want us to get married. Let's talk - this and this and this. These are the reasons our getting married will not affect your lifestyle in any way."
Ta-mi has shown herself open and receptive to his point of view often in the drama; and since he is the one that wants marriage, it is up to him to communicate the benefits.
[tagging @charlieblue17 - Since you've commented here, and I usually like reading your take on dramas and women on your wall]
greenfields
August 2, 2019 at 12:02 AM
I have to say though that Mogun's idea of family includes children and Ta-mi doesn't seem to want any.
Which is why I really can't see this as a problem from Ta-mi's end, as everyone on DB keep saying. She's not the one trying to hold on to him, but it he is one the who won't let go, despite the clear differences in what they want.
Blue (@mayhemf)
August 2, 2019 at 4:12 AM
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Nat
August 2, 2019 at 5:05 AM
This is exactly Ta Mi's point though. Why is her choice seen as the option that's not normal? In her relationship, she is the only one having to explain herself. I think I'm more open to her idea because in my culture co-habitting and having kids without being legally married is as normal as being married.
luzitania
August 1, 2019 at 3:15 AM
I wonder if age might also be a factor in Mogun/Tami's relationship. People tend to approach relationships differently in the 20s, 30s, 40s and beyond.
While you might be experimenting in your 20s, usually by your 30s you have a better idea of what you like and want and are less likely to compromise or engage in a relationship that has no future.
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shach
August 1, 2019 at 3:57 AM
Of course, and TaMi already been in similar relationship, which was alluded by Lee DongWook cameo.
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6 Bob
July 31, 2019 at 8:47 PM
Is it my imagination or is Mo-gun looking progressively thinner and frailer as time goes on? Its almost as though he's wasting away for love. A reminder, this is the same actor who savagely beat up IU in 'My Ajusshi'. I think of him as a big guy, its quite alarming to see him look so... delicate
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7 riverj
July 31, 2019 at 8:48 PM
Ji Hwan and Hyun, I have been waiting for that kiss for the last 7 weeks. Totally swoon!!!
I hope JW and GK will have a happy ending.
Tami and Mogun's relationship has been a bit dragging around that conflict, and c'mon we all know that breakup has to happen sometimes in the later half somehow. But I like how they use the conversation with his mom to make him realize how Tami has been feeling all along.
One couple makes it, another breaks it. This drama really plays with our hearts, I'm some very good way though. Y'all please get a happy ending. I'm rooting hard for you.
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8 bbstl 🧹
July 31, 2019 at 10:35 PM
Thank you @lollypip for the lovely recaps. They are helping me love this show even more ❤️
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9 Kurama
July 31, 2019 at 11:11 PM
My favourite scene it was when people are posting their thought on the first page of Barro. I like how it works :)
For the couple, Ga Kyung and Jin Woo have so much chemistry! It's sad to see them divorced.
Scarlet and Jin Wan are cute.
Tammy and Mo-Gun... I never could be invested in this couple so I don't really care. I think their issue is interesting but the couple was written that it was not like it was their only issue...
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10 shach
August 1, 2019 at 12:03 AM
What l like in Hyun the most is the way she expresses her emotion, like a baby almost, she doesn't even try to hold it in or press it down because she is at public place or people may watch it.
The sexual tension between Ga Gyoun and her soon to be ex, can be almost touched!
I didn't care much about Tami relationship but the break up scene was beautiful, I'm glad they explain everything to each other.
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11 Ayan
August 1, 2019 at 1:41 AM
Thank you for the recap Lollypip!
I think I re-watched Hyun and Ji Hwan's scenes muliple times this episode.He wasted no time confirming his feelings😍😊
It's a shame we could mostly see Hyun's back during the kiss scene.
Honestly I didn't think Da-In should have scolded Ta-mi about her ability to love. She has no idea about Morgan and Ta-mi's relationship and regardless of what Ta-mi may have told her, its up to Morgan who he wants to be with.
I do wish we knew more about Ta-mi's views on marriage or more about her family or her background.
I feel this was more of a stumbling block than anything else for Morgan and Ta-mi's relationship. I think both of them needed share and talk about their past to try for a future together. I've not paid attention to this couple as much as the others but I do think the issue of marriage was just the tip of problems these guys have.
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Bob
August 1, 2019 at 7:16 AM
I'm trying to recall, did Morgan actually bring up marriage (to Tammy) at all? Or was it just Tammy projecting her own insecurities onto Morgan? I think Morgan had perhaps made an off-hand remark about not being opposed to marriage as an institution and that sent Tammy spiraling.
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LollyPip
August 1, 2019 at 8:52 AM
When Mo-gun met Brian, Brian asked them if they were interested in getting married. Mo-gun said it was his lifelong dream to get married and have a family.
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12 luzitania
August 1, 2019 at 3:17 AM
Ga-kyung needs to throw her parents and especially her father in the bin. When you learn your son-in-law cheats on your daughter, your first reaction should not be "don't you dare divorce her".
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13 Moonbean
August 1, 2019 at 3:37 AM
I found it heartbreaking that Ga Kyung and Jin Woo were finally hand-in-hand in public on the day they divorced. Funny enough I still don’t like Ga Kyung much at work and in her friendships. I disapprove most of her choices and selfish actions. What humanizes her for me is Jin Woo and his love for her.
I loved the meta of the makjang morning drama What’s Wrong with My Mother-in-Law? making fun of the genre and its clichés. The finale with the mother-in-law confessing she is not actually 33 but 63 had me in stiches. It was the funniest thing I have seen in a long while. Then came the brilliance of Ji Hwan’s character’s speech paying homage to one of the best Kdrama love stories with his reference to “I don’t care whether you are an alien”. I love writers who pay homage to their own favorites.
I also cracked up at Hyun fangirling like crazy at the drama kiss until she realized it was actually her boyfriend doing the kissing and enjoyed poor Ji Hwan’s discomfort and attempts to soothe Hyun. He is such a gentle soul but so loving. I think he is just perfect for our prickly heroine.
Another scene I laughed (which I am sure was unintended at the production’s part) was Ji Hwan getting ready for a scene on the set trying to make himself shorter by spreading his legs. I have seen dozens of pictures of actors doing this in real life and I never understand why they don’t simply sit down for their make up or hair. I have never seen this anywhere besides Korean entertainment world.
Of all the storylines in this drama (love, work, friendship) Ta Mi and Mo Gun’s relationship has always been the least engaging for me. I don’t really feel like exploring whether it’s the actors or the storyline (noona romance can be such a catnip) but it just didn’t work so really I can’t say I care much whether they are together or apart. But what made it worse was the whole piano teacher episode. She was the weak link of the drama since the beginning and even before we knew why she was in the drama there were discussions questioning her function. She was so clearly shoehorned for this moment but also so obviously stuck out like a sore thumb. Ta Mi and Mo Gun’s problem was big enough to cause a breakup without illustrating it in such a heavy handed way. This melodrama didn’t fit the quality and subtlety of this drama. I so much prefer the way Jin Woo and Ga Kyung’s relationship is explored through very subtle actions and words. I agree with both the teacher and and Mo Gun that Ta Mi should have told them she knows. But I was also very annoyed by Da In’s speech to Ta Mi. She is in no position to lecture her about her perceived lack of love towards Mo Gun. I also found the story extra silly every time anyone mentioned how big Da In’s love for Mo Gun is. I never understood the Korean obsession with first loves but in this particular case it was even more ridiculous. These are people who haven’t seen each other since 15. How big can a 15 year old’s love towards...
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Moonbean
August 1, 2019 at 3:40 AM
... someone who is an adult she doesn’t even know anymore be? Mo Gun’s character developed in the intervening years (and so did her own). So on what basis can she still “love” him so much besides his pretty face and attractive physique?
I have to finish on the best part of the episode - Ji Hwan's kiss was really awesome, including his gentle move to put away the phone without breaking the kiss. The boy has his priorities right! ❤️❤️❤️
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MikeyD signed up
August 1, 2019 at 7:20 AM
'Woohoo Waikiki' (first season) had a great meta joke about aliens in K-dramas.
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14 shach
August 1, 2019 at 4:00 AM
Did anybody else noticed that music during the kiss was the same as in "What is wrong with my mother in law"?
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Moonbean
August 1, 2019 at 1:23 PM
I totally missed that but I noticed in later episodes whenever Hyun is acting melo about the upcoming separation that music pops up. 😁
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15 rubytuesday
August 1, 2019 at 4:08 AM
I was super into this show, but when that *romantic* moment between Ga-kyung and Hyun early on, I dropped it for a little while. I think a part of me knew that there wasn't a hope in hell of a k-drama having two of its female leads fall in love, but the fact that they used that peak-kdrama-romance cliche, complete with music and slo-mo... It sucks, because these couples are all adorable and compelling, and the women in this show are layered and interesting. But I when I try to watch it, there's still that lingering bitterness in that I feel like myself and others were queer-baited a little bit. Sigh, at least Hyun and Ji-Hwan are cute, I guess.
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MikeyD signed up
August 1, 2019 at 6:07 AM
You'll like the ending.
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16 agoodheart
August 1, 2019 at 6:44 AM
My heart sank when Ta-mi and Mo-gun broke up. Knowing it would happen did not prevent me from being incredibly sad about it. Ta-mi's cry was heartbreaking. She's being criticized heavily but I understand her. Not wanting to get married is a valid choice, it doesn't need explanations. The show didn't mention about having kids, but I assume marriage equals having kids in South Korea (and not just in South Korea), and taking away Mo-gun's dream of a family is simply a guilt Ta-mi couldn't shake off. Time and time again she would run into something that reminded her of it, and the more she loved him the more it burdened her. Watching him being sad or unfulfilled over her choice, it wouldn't have been easy and would only be more difficult with time. At the same time, I'm happy to see Mo-gun's unwavering love for her. I'm happy he confirmed that even if everyone else thought she didn't love him enough based on her choice, he knew she loved him and essentially he's the only one who needs to see that. I'm happy he finally understood her, she didn't need to explain herself anymore. What a relief.
Agree with everything you said about this couple, LollyPip. You put it in words better than I ever could.
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agoodheart
August 1, 2019 at 7:38 AM
Also, lol at your rawr when Mo-gun said he’d rather not let Ta-mi sleep, hahaha ~ 😂
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MikeyD signed up
August 1, 2019 at 11:22 AM
Mo-gun is depressed because Tam-mi is just too neurotic to be with. When did he ever ask her to marry him? He's in his 20s and they've only been on a few dates. Still, she's obsessed over theoretically hurting him 'in the future' so she's basically torturing him in the present. Worst.girlfriend.EVER.
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agoodheart
August 1, 2019 at 12:59 PM
Mo-gun clearly said he wanted to get married when he met Brian at least. He also said he didn't want to just have fun from the start, right from he met Ta-mi again after the first night. Then the time when Ta-mi suggested him to move in with her, he was disappointed that she didn't mean them getting married. And I believe they're not just been on a few dates, the show implied time has been passing by. They have good and meaningful time with each other. Couples have problems and Mo-gun is a grown-up 28-years-old, he knows what he signs up for.
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Nat
August 1, 2019 at 4:19 PM
I agree with everything you wrote here. I want to add too that the reason Mo Gun broke up with Ta Mi is because he was never going to change his mind. It's true he wanted to live in the moment, and he told her that her not wanting marriage was okay, but down the line he would have hoped her mind would change - he admitted as much during one of their talks when he said that she doesn't love him enough to change her mind. Also the fact that when she mentions moving in together the first thing he thought of was marriage as you mention.
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Yn00na
August 1, 2019 at 5:18 PM
I admire the writer for not providing the motivations on Tami choice of not getting married and building a family. Not that I think Tami owe an explanation, but the writer could have provided a background story (such as traumatic parents divorce) to make her choice more sympathetic. The writer's decision to make Tami's choice stand alone as it is, is admirable. Especially in dramaland, where character's motivation often told with long complex story that can span years/decades.
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FlyingTool
August 1, 2019 at 5:45 PM
I thought it is similar to her situation with Morgan. If she doesn’t owe him an explanation, she also doesn’t owe us the audience an explanation. As you said, the writers made the right decision.
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
August 1, 2019 at 11:03 PM
There's no right or wrong. By not giving us reasons, I can only infer and I simply conclude that they don't love each other enough.
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agoodheart
August 1, 2019 at 11:59 PM
A couple can love each other, be with each other, and grow old together without government's paper or any outsider's approval. If people want marriage for protection and rights, they're free to do so. Other people don't need it, that's all right too. People have different preferences and not everyone needs to follow a default path to prove one's love, they can have a different choice they choose for their own and love each other just the same.
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
August 2, 2019 at 4:20 AM
Yes, the said couple can do all this if they agree with each other on the kind of life they wish to lead together. This is not the case with Ta Mi and Mogun.
agoodheart
August 2, 2019 at 12:08 AM
What I wanted to say is that, the writer didn't give us Ta-mi's background and only gave us her choice, which means "a 'No' is a complete sentence". Lee Dong-wook's cameo gave a hint on this, that Ta-mi was against marriage, not him. Same here, Ta-mi is against marriage, which doesn't equal not loving Mo-gun. These two ideas are not mutually exclusive.
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
August 2, 2019 at 4:25 AM
Ta Mi is against marriage and Mogun is for marriage. So where do they meet in the middle?
Ta Mi can be against marriage and love Mogun but if marriage is what Mogun wants, then is she going to stick by what she wants or will she give in to him? Same for Mogun, does he love her enough to put aside his wish to get married and just live together?
There is no easy answer. I can't talk about the ending as it would be considered a spoiler but I am satisfied with how the drama deals with it.
agoodheart
August 2, 2019 at 5:25 AM
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
August 2, 2019 at 5:36 AM
It's probably impossible to agree on the definition of love or the degree of. To me, it's just sad that Ta Mi and Mogun can love each other very much but separate because neither is willing to compromise on the issue of marriage.
Is it normal for me to question(if I'm Ta Mi) - do you love me or do you love being married more?
agoodheart
August 2, 2019 at 5:37 AM
I'm just explaining in the sense that two people in a relationship can disagree with each other and still in love with each other, the disagreements don't define how much love they have for one another. Of course they should work on what would be the best outcome for both, but they should understand where the other person stands first and foremost. I'm glad that finally here they have come to the mutual understanding that Ta-mi didn't want to compromise her principle and at the same time Mo-gun's unfulfilled dream pained her incredibly. It wouldn't have hurt her that much and put her in such agony if she didn't love him. Being the one in the relationship, Mo-gun realized it and acknowledged her love for him despite outsider's criticism on Ta-mi's love like for example what Da-in said. I disliked how Da-in was used to be the plot device, but her role actually showed to be more than a catalyst to evoke Ta-mi's insecurities.
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agoodheart
August 2, 2019 at 5:43 AM
I think given Mo-gun's background, he simply wanted to have the feeling of a true family with the person he loves, it's not about whether he loves Ta-mi more or the idea of marriage more because for him it's just natural to marry the one you love, loving Ta-mi equals marriage to her what else could it be. Ta-mi's idea is just different and it takes time for Mo-gun to wrap his head around that idea.
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17 Cloggie
August 1, 2019 at 9:05 AM
First good wrist grab ever.
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18 Anisa
August 1, 2019 at 3:42 PM
God I love every scene of Jin-woo and Ga-kyung in this episode. They KILL ME.
So in this scene:
I listened to what he said multiple times, and I'm pretty sure the subs are wrong and he actually said "since you don't love me."
Which makes me die even more because GAH, that was his confession of love and their relationship is so tense and impossible and heartbreaking.
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19 korfan
August 1, 2019 at 6:54 PM
Ga-kyung and that husband of hers.
Gosh they're interesting.
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20 eynay
August 1, 2019 at 9:13 PM
I watched this drama until the final episode in just one day.^_^
I only watched for Jin Woo & Ga Kyung part because of their story more interesting for me. But maybe I will give a try to watch this without skip for Hyun & Jihwan.
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21 SamVas
August 2, 2019 at 1:38 PM
Just finished the drama and had to rush to see what the beanies are saying. :P
Woah! Such a fantastic drama! Excellent writing and great characters. Many euphoric moments as well but not in a cheesy way.
I am so happy for Cha Hyeon that she found someone who appreciates her and finds her innocent but no-nonsense disposition genuinely adorable. Her awkwardness and butch temperament owing to her past athlete life limited her potential pick of partners. I liked how CH and JH met as well, because I don't see him falling for her in any other kind of first encounter. They had me smiling throughout!
As for Tami and Mogun, I think they portrayed the "big-age-difference" and "want-different-things" tropes quite well. I see how many felt it was bit of a drag, but that's the reality of it. Since MG has abandonment issues, he will always wonder if TM will leave him and TM will always be fearful of MG finding someone who can given him that security. I have so much to say about this, but I may leave some comments in the above discussions.
Loving by letting go is the drama's motif and GG and JW are a case in point. Though they were forced together, they didn't hold any resentment for each other. On the contrary, they grew to respect and love each other. JW seemed genuinely smitten with GG, and she enjoyed his adulation.
Thanks for a great time, drama.
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