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SongAh:”How can I lean on you when you’re so unstable?” As cute a couple as they made, I never wanted them to be in a relationship because I didn’t think JoonYoung was ready.

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JungKyung:”You really don’t know anything.” Well no, she doesn’t. With only the information Song Ah has, I’d have been done sooner. It’s less about her insecurities and more about his inconsistencies

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I really like the variety of relationships and families shown in Oh My Baby.

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    It’s really a great drama with a lot of depth and heart, especially about the life dilemma faced by working women. Two more episodes to go.

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Running Man fans – I’m looking for an old episode (very old, Gary was still there). It’s one where they go to this makeshift village, there’s name tag ripping and a bell that causes chaotic changes.

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    I THINK there might have been more than two guests, actors maybe. The episode was really funny and I want to re-watch it but I really don’t remember who was in it – that would have been finding it a breeze. I think the players find potions or something and that causes the bell to ring and everything changes for everyone. Like someone requested time travel so the entire game was re-set and everyone got their name tags back at one point.

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      Hmmm I have watched every Gary episode. Do you know approximately what year it was filmed?

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        Not even that – I want to search for it in their Wikipedia episodes page which is organised by year, but I remember nothing about the episode except what happened

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    Found it! It’s episode 116 from October 2012

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I didn’t get into WWW for the female empowerment specifically. I just thought the premise of the show was interesting. But I was so happy to see older women with careers who are competent and intelligently navigating the workplace. I had been in a Korean drama slump for so long before picking up this show. The last show I remember live watching was APAD, or Do Bong Soon? (which of those was first? 😂)

I especially appreciated Ta Mi’s character. I’m not nearly as ambitious in work as she is, but I resonated so much with her personal views. I was pleasantly surprised at the inclusion of her beliefs about marriage in the show, and I always appreciated the struggle that was her relationship with Mo-Gun – even though the back-and-forth was annoying at times.

I was satisfied with the way it all ended. Perhaps the biggest subversion of trope in this drama was that all the ‘leading’ men only existed in the plot to serve as romantic interests. I’ve often read criticisms of dramas that turn the female lead into a plot device for the male, stripping her of all personality and purpose. The men in this drama had both, but their main function was to serve as romantic interests, and I’m okay with that. The story was more about the workplace of the women than anything.

The only thing I wanted more of was background on Ta Mi. We learned a lot about Ga Kyung and Cha Hyeon, but nothing about Ta Mi’s background. I would have loved to have learned about how she was in the past, and what influenced her behaviour and decisions in the present.

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WWW OST, take my money. All these songs are keepers. I liked the silence in the one at the end of episode 15, it fit the scene so perfectly.

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Ji Hwan and Mo-Gun’s little interaction was so cute – telling him he looks nice in a school uniform, pfft~

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“I’ll beat up the conscription policy.” Cha Hyun, 2019 😂😂😂

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Ta Mi!! 😭😭😭 I feel so sad for her, but this is so real. But my other pairing of Ga Kyung and husband are doing okay…? So at least there’s that..? I can’t believe she had to go through this again.

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    Mo-Gun had to break up with her though. I was really getting annoyed at the on again off again, even though I understood where it was coming from. Ta Mi is such a sad character that is so realistic to me. She doesn’t want to be alone – I think she wants love as much as anyone else. It’s just that she wants it on different terms than social norms dictate, and it seems that so far she hasn’t been able to find someone who shares that perspective.

    We know she’s been through a relationship and a break up before for the marriage issue (Lee Dong Wook’s cameo), so even though she really loved Mo-Gun, she never could let go fully because she has seen this end before, and it’s hard to open yourself up to pain you know is coming.

    Mo-Gun said he was okay with her views, and I kind of wish she listened and just accepted that he meant what he said. But I think he would just wait for her mind to change – he would never really be okay with not getting married, and she knew that.

    So when she saw that there was a woman who loved Mo-Gun, and who was sweet and who wanted the same things he wanted in life, of course she would get sad and hesitate. Who is she to keep him from having happiness? She’s right though, in real life, love is not enough. And it’s hard and hurts for both of them, especially her. Being okay being single forever is one thing, but wanting love and a relationship and being unable to get it because you cannot find someone who shares your values is awful. You either stay lonely forever, or compromise your beliefs so that you can find love. Either way you end up unhappy.

    I really appreciate this show for exploring this issue. It really is a first in an Asian drama, and they’re all I watch so I’m really happy I got to see WWW.

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      *clap clap* I have to agree.

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      *nodding in agreement*

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      I’ve been in a relationship like that. My view has always been very similar to Ta-mi’s. When my partner and I split up after >10 years, he said: I always thought you’d change your mind.

      I felt guilty. It did teach me that if you love somebody, you want them to be happy and fulfilled. And sometimes you have to accept that this won’t be with you.

      I hope that they stay apart – but they probably won’t because kdrama.

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        Thanks so much for sharing your personal experience @cloggie! It must have been so hard to let go of that relationship.

        I actually share Mo-Gun’s views on marriage. But I relate to Ta Mi because my issue is that I don’t want kids. So I experience the same things she does, just with a different issue that is a societal norm for a woman especially. At first I was willing to compromise, but then I realized that would make me miserable. Any relationship that begins with the parties disagreeing on these issues is an uphill climb.

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Do Ta Mi and Mo-Gun even have a relationship? They’ve spent as much time in limbo as they have together. And I get why, the issue they’re dealing with is heavy. But make a choice and stick to it 😒

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    I felt Mo-Gun’s pain when he was said that if he lets go the relationship will end because Ta Mi is not as invested. But in all honesty, he knew this. She never pretended to be something she wasn’t, and he was pushing for the relationship from the beginning. I feel like Ta Mi has been as courteous as she could be under the circumstances.

    Cha Hyeon more decisive. She likes Ji Hwan, but she doesn’t want to enter a relationship for whatever reason. With her, there has never been any push and pull, just push. Ta Mi lacks that in her relationship.

    I’ve said it before, honestly I will riot if Ga Kyung and her husband don’t end up together, even if the two above couples end, they deserve their happy ending TOGETHER.

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      LoL, I will also be in riot with you for Ga-kyung. She’s a terrible person (I only watched until episode 11, I don’t know if she will be redeemed later), but I still think she and her husband deserve their happiness. Her husband was right whe he said he and Ga-kyung have bonds that nobody will understand.

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        They are both questionable people, and she hasn’t exactly been ‘redeemed’ by episode 13, but her relationship with her husband has made me want them to be happy together since the beginning. They’ve been hurt everywhere else in life, at least let them have each other 😃

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My heart was fluttering throughout the last couple minutes of WWW today. I even got a little teary-eyed when Ga-Kyung was suiting up.

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I watched One Spring Night’s first two episodes on Netflix. Is this music original to the broadcast? It’s so distracting!

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    And it plays in every episode.

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    It’s the PD style 😄
    It’s more distracting in Pretty Noona that I hate the song now.

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Ga Kyung’s husband has a secret plan. He keeps saying things that point to them getting together after they get divorced – also why he seems in a hurry to get the divorce?

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    Because he doesn’t want her to be tied to him by this relationship that their parents pushed them into. He wants her to be free of his mother, free to live her own life. And free to accept him or not.

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      I want them to end up content together at the end more than anyone else, honestly. They have become awful people, but they weren’t dealt a good hand. I think they woud be great together, and they already are.

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Ta Mi melts at being called ‘Eonnie’ like the male first lead does at being called ‘Oppa’ 😂😂😂

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I really appreciate how different the views expressed in WWW are – specifically as they relate to marriage. It’s like the writer went into my head and used my arguments verbatim.

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But Ga Kyung, have you no shame? You all fired her effective immediately and you’re mad because she didn’t tie up loose ends? Um, what?

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A Beanie called it! Mo-Gun and the music teacher DO know each other! Oh my! And Ta Mi is over her being the fairy god mother 😂😂😂

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    I got that feeling from the moment she got in the car. Hm, he’s off to a reunion, and she’s going to meet her first love…. Wait until he turns up with the missing earring.

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      I actually thought the same thing about the earring! Gosh, I hope it doesn’t turn out that way…😂😂

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    Oh! You’re right! A fellow Beanie did call it!

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I like this side of Mo-gun that we are getting to know. I like that the writer is exploring adoption in the context of South Korea since it seems such a taboo issue there.

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    I really felt for Mo-Gun when he saw what his birth mother had him saved as on her phone. I was expecting the ‘Park Mo-Gun’, but that ‘student’ attached to it was just so impersonal. I would be so hurt if I were in his place. I can’t imagine the conflict occurring in the mind of someone who’s been adopted…so many things…

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      Maybe it would make more sense if you think he was born in the early 90s and single moms weren’t all that acceptable at that time. So now, even though they have made contact, she still can’t acknowledge publicly that she had a son out of wedlock at 21. This is probably why she didn’t note him as her son.

      No one else knows of her “shame”… sad – but it happens all the time.

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That is a loaded question Cha Hyeon…was Ga Kyung always like this..? That must really hurt. I feel like Cha Hyeon is the one person she feels is on her side and a real friend and now…

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    Exactly why she had to be the one to say it and mean it. Well done, Cha Hyeon.

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      I hadn’t looked at it that way, but you make sense. Maybe we’ll start seeing some Ta Mi style self-reflection.

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    Ga Gyung is all alone – and feels every second of it. At this point I don’t think she knows any other way to express herself to the two women who were closest to her other than to lash out – because to be vulnerable and ask for help right now is to risk too much.
    I want to know however – when did Bae Ta Mi go back and get her purse from the table? That was really hard to watch her be pulled out of the restaurant without her purse or laptop. ugh

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You know what I’m noticing? That all the wrist grabs in WWW have been perpetrated by women on women…

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