100 Days My Prince: Episode 5
by LollyPip
If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em. Despite Yul’s instincts telling him he’s not cut out for peasant life, he decides to make the best of a bad situation. It’s nice to see him making an effort, though the results are varied and not always positive. Still, seeing the grumpy amnesiac crown prince trying to fit in, and even… wait for it… smiling, is pretty endearing, and goes a long way towards Hong-shim’s willingness to cut him a little slack.
EPISODE 5 RECAP
After Yul passes out in Hong-shim’s arms, the village doctor looks him over. He says that Yul’s arrow wound is infected, but that Yul actually collapsed because of low nourishment — in other words, he fainted from hunger.
Dad explains that Yul is an extremely picky eater while Hong-shim mutters that he ate a whole bowl of soup at that restaurant. The doctor prescribes an expensive herbal medicine with deer antler, but Hong-shim complains that Yul is a goblin that eats up all their money, and refuses it.
She tells Dad that the only way Yul will be getting deer antler herbal medicine is if he catches his own deer, which don’t even live on their mountain. Dad argues that until he recovers, Yul won’t be able to work to pay off his debt to the loan shark.
So Hong-shim goes to the forest to forage for herbs, and even snags a wild chicken with her slingshot. She makes healthy soup for Yul and gently tends to him all night.
In the morning, Dad smiles to himself to see that Yul and Hong-shim slept in the same room, even if it’s because Yul was sick. He tells himself to give them some time alone, and softly calls out that he’s going to the mountain.
His voice stirs Yul, and when he sees that Hong-shim is sleeping on the floor next to him, he watches her sleep for a while. He reaches out to brush her hair off her face, running his finger down a scratch on her cheek, then plays it casual when his touch wakes Hong-shim.
He asks why she slept here after suggesting they use separate rooms, and Hong-shim snaps that she nursed him all night long after he collapsed while carrying water to the soldiers, then again at home.
Yul tells her that on the mountain, he suffered a terrible headache and felt like he couldn’t breathe. He wonders if something happened to him there, and says he’s been thinking about the story he’s been told about himself and her. He asks Hong-shim what kind of man he was (before he lost his memory), and she says that he was a good man, and a nice person.
All Dad said when Hong-shim asked is that Won-deuk is good at being handsome (HAHAHA, but also true), so she tells Yul that he’s a hard worker. Narrowing his eyes, he says that he can’t picture himself that way.
Unable to think of anything else, Hong-shim coincidentally remembers that she left water boiling. She runs outside, wondering how she’s supposed to know who Yul is when he doesn’t even know himself, and how things have escalated so fast.
Yul startles Hong-shim while she’s stoking the cooking fires, and tells her that he heard her dad saying he’s going to the mountain. He admits to feeling better this morning, and Hong-shim as grumbles that he’d better after she searched the whole mountain for food to feed him, Yul cracks the tiniest smile.
He asks if that’s how she scratched her cheek, looking almost concerned. He watches her make breakfast, and his eyes go wide with alarm when Hong-shim adds earthworms to the soup, realizing that she probably fed him worm soup last night, too.
He starts gagging, but Hong-shim forbids him to vomit. She tells him the story of a monk who drank water he found in a cave, only to discover later that he’d drunk it from a skull. But he realized that the water that tastes disgusting today is the same water that was delicious yesterday, because it’s all about your perception.
Yul asks incredulously if she’s trying to school him. He asks why she’s not eating the soup, and she shudders and declares that worm soup isn’t her style. She grabs his hand and chirps that she’s glad to see him feeling good enough to yell, because he’s hers until his debt is paid off.
While on the mountain, Dad runs into Guard Kwon, who asks Dad if he’s seen a strange man on the mountain. Swearing that he hasn’t seen anyone, Dad asks who they’re looking for. Before Guard Kwon answers, he’s called away urgently by one of his men, who have found some clothing in the stream that looks like it belonged to the crown prince.
Hong-shim tasks Yul with chopping wood, hoping that his body will remember what his mind can’t. But he’s abysmal at it, and he also fails hilariously at rolling straw and harvesting herbs. Hee, at least he has the grace to look ashamed when he breaks Hong-shim’s sickle.
As they trudge home, he says that there must be something he’s good at, they just have to discover it. He whines that Hong-shim’s annoyed silence makes him uncomfortable, and she snaps that everything about him makes her uncomfortable, especially his fancy way of speaking.
Soon after finding the waterlogged clothing, a body is found on the riverbank. Guard Kwon recognizes the clothing as the crown prince’s, but Minister Kim insists on identifying the body himself. He slowly turns over the body, then orders the guards to show their respect to the crown prince.
On the way home, Yul asks (nicely!) for a bowl of steamed pears, but at Hong-shim’s glare he amends meekly that water will be fine. They find Town Official Park and Ma-chil, the loan shark, waiting in their yard, both wanting payment (for the broken water jug and the loan interest, respectively). The men argue over who’s owed payment first, and when they nearly come to blows, Yul gets between them and the flowerbeds to protect his precious babies from being trampled.
Fed up, Hong-shim yells at all of them to knock it off. She leads them to the magistrate and reminds him of a villager who wasn’t punished for stealing because she was insane, and she shoots Yul a pitying look as she tells the magistrate that Yul is the same way (HA, his face).
When Ma-chil argues, Hong-shim reminds him that he said he would sell her if the debt isn’t paid, because Yul seems not right in the head. Yul protests that he’s perfectly fine, so Hong-shim offers to prove it with witnesses.
Gu-dol tells the magistrate that Yul can’t remember a steamy night in the watermill, then the restaurant owner testifies that Yul tried to pay for a meal with a wink. Their neighbor Yang-choon tells how he shoved her hand in a barrel of dung, and even Kkeut-nyeo calls Yul no-good.
The magistrate is forced to concede that Yul seems not-quite-right, so the document he signed isn’t legally binding. He orders Yul to return everything he bought with the borrowed money, but Yul flat-out refuses to admit to having an unstable mind, and doesn’t want to have his debt erased for that reason.
Understandably, Hong-shim is incredulous and angry, but Yul is angry, too, and accuses her of turning her mentally healthy husband into a fool for money. She argues that he’s not normal, but he reminds her that she said he’s someone who does everything well, and that he’s just having difficulty with his memory.
He asks why she married him knowing he was poor, when she could have become Master Park’s concubine and been rich. He sneers that she must have preferred a young, handsome husband to an old man, and Hong-shim slaps him across the face. She storms off, and Yul goes home, unable to stop hearing the villagers accusing him of being stupid and no good.
Hong-shim visits her father’s grave and asks why her father didn’t keep his promise to find her a wonderful man like himself. She sobs that she wouldn’t have had to marry a man like Won-deuk/Yul if her father were still alive.
The following day, a message arrives for King Neungseon. Minister Jung reports his reaction to Queen Park, and they assume that the message contained bad news about Yul. She smirks that this is good news for them and instructs Minister Jung to increase his influence.
Crown Princess So-hye doesn’t react when she hears the contents of the message. She remembers young Yul’s vehement denial when he was told he would be marrying her, and she says to herself, “If we had not met as husband and wife, things would not have ended like this. I hope you are in a better place now.”
Je-yoon has also heard about the crown prince’s death, and he thinks that something doesn’t feel right. He’d learned of the fletcher’s death from falling off a cliff from the man’s widow, so he reports it to his boss, along with his suspicion that someone must know Je-yoon is investigating the palace physician’s murder.
His boss tells Je-yoon that the physician’s killer turned himself in. Skeptical, Je-yoon questions the man, who claims he’s been using those particular arrows for two years. When asked to show his archery skills, the man easily shoots a bird out of the sky, but Je-yoon tells his boss that he isn’t the killer. However, he says to lock the man up anyway, because, “… today is the 15th of the month.”
He leaves to go to Hong-shim’s bridge, and he finds her looking hopefully at every man that passes. Je-yoon sighs that her brother is mean for not keeping his promise, peering closely at her face and saying that he’s missed seeing her. Hong-shim asks with an eyeroll if women usually fall for this, but Je-yoon insists he’s never hit on a woman before.
He says he has a confession to make, and when Hong-shim tells him not to do it, he points to a flower lantern floating on the river. It’s supposed to grant a wish if it makes it to the sea, and Je-yoon says that he put it there with a prayer that she will see her brother again.
The lantern snags on some grass, so Je-yoon struggles to take off his shoes so he can wade into the water. Hong-shim just huffs and goes in herself, picking up the lantern and accusing Je-yoon of lying when she reads Please help me meet that lady from Songjo village again written on it.
Je-yoon joins her in the stream to prove that Hong-shim’s wish is written on the other side of the lantern. He says he wrote her wish first, and only wrote his since there was plenty of room left. His earnestness makes Hong-shim smile, and she asks why he’s so nice to her.
Je-yoon admits that he has face blindness, so people always look blurry to him, but that her face is different, with clear eyes and rosy lips. Shy, he says that it feels like destiny, but Hong-shim nervously says they should hurry up and float the lantern. Je-yoon finds a deep spot to release the lantern, but he trips and falls onto someone else’s lantern in the process.
Some men splash over to fight, angry that he ruined their master’s wish. Je-yoon tells them that he holds a high position despite his clothing, then knocks them into the water, grabs Hong-shim’s hand, and takes off with her.
She breaks free of him and runs off, leaving Je-yoon to squish back to the bridge alone, wondering if he’ll have to wait another month to see her. He spots a letter on the bridge’s handrail, from Hong-shim:
Thank you for the lantern. It has been such a long time since I received a touching gift from someone. Even if my wish does not come true, I am happy enough. I have been going to that bridge for ten years to meet my brother whom I parted with. I was hopeful for the first few years, but I suffered as the years passed by. On the 15th of every month I was forced to admit that he was not alive anymore. Please stop going to the bridge to see me, for I will never go there again.
Worried about Hong-shim, Yul goes to Kkeut-nyeo, who snaps that she’d run away, too, if she had a husband like him. At his dismayed expression, she tells him that Hong-shim goes to Hanyang every month at this time (though she thinks it’s to help a cousin who runs a book store), and that Hong-shim will be back today.
Gu-dol bounces over, happy to see Yul, but Yul grumps that Gu-dol isn’t his friend because he called him dumb in public. Gu-dol just shoves some pancake in Yul’s mouth while he’s still talking and says he was trying to help. Yul chews, then starts eyeballing the rest of the pancakes Gu-dol is carrying.
Turns out, they’re Yul’s favorite meat pancakes, ha. He and Gu-dol visit Town Official Park to offer to work at the party — Gu-dol for money, and Yul for some more meat pancakes. Yul doesn’t look at all pleased when he learns that the party is to celebrate the birthday of Master Park, who tried to make Hong-shim his concubine.
He spots her cleaning in another part of Master Park’s house, and this time he really does smile when he sees her. Hong-shim is also smiling, because a pair of children remind her of when she was young, and she’d been punished for playing with their father’s sword. She’d complained to her brother Seok-ha that she hates girly things like needlework, so he’d shown her a “huge needle” he’d made for her — her very own sword.
Hong-shim snaps out of her reverie and sees Yul smiling at her, but her own expression sours. He continues with his work, a little confused, but he cheers up a bit when he sees a meat pancake that someone dropped.
Hong-shim catches him picking it up off the ground and he quickly insists he wasn’t going to eat it. Yul yells at her for disappearing for days without a word, and starts to say he was worried, but he stops and instead says he was uncomfortable.
Gu-dol runs over to tell Hong-shim that he brought Yul here to work because he was whining about meat pancakes, and Yul indignantly squeaks, “When did I??” Hong-shim grabs the meat pancake from the ground, slaps it into Yul’s hand, and tells him to eat it and leave.
Still at the party, Yul frowns over at Master Park holding court as the birthday boy. When a server is tripped and spills a bowl of expensive soup, the magistrate loses his temper and orders her beaten. Hong-shim pleads for him to show mercy on such a happy occasion, calling it a simple mistake. Master Park leers openly at Hong-shim as he tells her to come pour him a drink, and he’ll forgive the server.
He even offers to forget her impertinence if she allows him to touch her, otherwise she’ll also be beaten. She reluctantly relents and heads to his table, but a hand grabs her wrist — it’s Yul, who growls, “Don’t take another step without my permission.”
He turns to Master Park and tells him that highborn men shouldn’t taunt a married woman. He starts to leave with Hong-shim, but Master Park calls out that he heard Yul is a good-for-nothing. Yul throws his insults right back, calling a poem that Master Park wrote “something an eight-year-old would write.”
Master Park just about explodes over the insult from a man he assumes is illiterate. Yul quotes the poem perfectly, mocking its simplicity, so Master Park invites him to recite a better poem, but adds that if Yul’s poem isn’t better than his, then both he and Hong-shim will die.
Even the magistrate thinks that’s a bit too far. But without hesitation, Yul recites, “The toilet rat scares easily, and the learned rat is suspicious. It steals grain from the safety of the magistrate’s storage. What they want is to satisfy their greed and eat well, but when the earth splits and the sky falls, they will be in danger.”
Seeing the poem for the criticism that it is, Master Park accuses Yul of repeating a poem he heard somewhere. Yul grins that he did exactly what he was told — recite a poem. Luckily, he and Hong-shim are saved from punishment by a messenger, who runs in to report that a body has been found, and that it’s believed to be the crown prince.
Yul sneaks out of the party with Hong-shim during the ensuing mayhem. As soon as they’re safe, Hong-shim asks Yul where he heard that poem, but of course he doesn’t know. He asks if she really planned to serve Master Park, the man who tried to make her his concubine.
He’s even upset that she’s wearing makeup, and Hong-shim admits that she was hoping to impress Master Park so that she’d get paid well. She’s surprised that Yul seems jealous, and he admits that if this uncomfortable feeling is jealousy, then he’s probably jealous.
Stepping closer and placing a hand on Hong-shim’s neck, Yul says, “Do not enter that man’s gate again, and unless it is for me, don’t wear lipstick, either.” Removing his hand, he continues, “I had no memory of you, which was frustrating, but I know one thing. I am not a fool. I know poems.”
Just as Hong-shim is about to start swooning, Yul suddenly exclaims in dismay, “I never got a meat pancake!” LOL.
The king makes his way to the recovered body, which has been brought to the palace. He slowly approaches, denying that it’s the crown prince in a fearful voice. He insists on seeing its face despite the advanced decomposition, and when the sheet is moved aside, he collapses to the floor.
Even as Yul sulks over losing out on the meat pancakes, when Hong-shim offers to work for Master Park and earn some, he says it’s not worth the price. He even eats Hong-shim’s earthworm soup, and when she looks upset that he declares it awful, he adds that bitter things are good for you and digs in with a pained, but endearingly earnest, smile.
Later, as Hong-shim is working with the village ladies, Yang-choon comments that Yul was pretty romantic when he defended Hong-shim. The ladies wonder if he really can read, so Hong-shim takes some books home. He proves that he can read just fine, which sends Hong-shim leaping across the table to tackle-hug him. Looking horrified, he says that her grin is making him very uncomfortable, hee.
With the king deep in mourning, Minister Kim relays his orders to the other ministers. He declares Yul’s murder an act of treason, and orders a special investigation bureau formed to catch the culprit/s, with Minister Kim appointed to lead it.
The orders continue that the burial ceremony should be minimal, as the king is concerned about public unrest. Minister Jung’s lackeys are happy that they’ll be able to install the new crown prince quickly, but they decide that Minister Kim can’t be allowed to head the special investigation bureau, lest he find them and the queen responsible and get rid of them.
But Minister Jung says that without Yul providing a family connection to the king, Minister Kim is like a tiger without teeth. He predicts that Minister Kim’s followers will desert him, and that Minister Kim will use trickery to get back at them, so he says they need to lure the king to their side with his only remaining heir, Prince Seowon.
Speaking of the prince, his mother, Queen Park, can’t hide her delight when she tells him that he’s to be the next king. He’s more worried about Crown Princess So-hye, but the queen tells him to keep his voice down lest someone hear how he feels about her, and he gets himself and his mother both killed.
Je-yoon releases the man who confessed to killing the palace physician, telling his boss that when the man shot the arrow he’d claimed to have been using for years, he’d held it wrong. His boss asks why Je-yoon didn’t torture the man to find out who made him confess, but Je-yoon just chuckles that it’s faster to just follow him to his master.
He follows the man, who weaves through streets and alleys until Je-yoon loses him. He asks a nearby lady if she’s seen a man in black, but she doesn’t answer until he turns away. She calls out that she believes him that he can’t recognize faces, and he recognizes her voice as Ae-wol, the gisaeng. She tells him to be careful at court now that the crown prince is dead, which is the first Je-yoon has heard of this.
Meanwhile, Minister Kim summons Moo-yeon again, and he holds a sword to Moo-yeon’s neck as he snarls that he made a costly mistake by killing Yul’s guard instead of the prince. He orders Moo-yeon back to the mountain, and if the prince is still alive, to bring back his head.
Je-yoon finds Guard Kwon, who says he’s been working in secret to find the prince. He gives Je-yoon a letter from the prince, which Yul passed to him when he left for the rain ritual and told him to give to Je-yoon on the 15th of the month, which led Guard Kwon to the conclusion that Yul knew he might not make it back. Je-yoon opens the letter, which contains only the hanja symbol for “elbow.”
The fact that Yul can read gives Hong-shim a money-making idea, but he’s not so keen on having to transcribe the pile of books she brings to him, especially since they all seem to be trashy romance novels. But he relents, and copies down the words as Hong-shim reads them out loud.
She gets to a particularly steamy passage and tells Yul to read that part himself, but he insists she keep reading if she wants him to keep writing. When she gets to the part about the woman’s breasts, she starts speed-reading while Yul stops writing altogether.
He complains that it makes no sense since the characters just met that day, but Hong-shim argues that it’s love at first sight. Yul asks if she fell in love with him at first sight, wanting to know what she liked about him, though he already knows she likes his thighs. HA!
Hong-shim splutters that he fell for her first and begged her for a date, which she only granted as a favor. Yul says she doesn’t seem like his type, so Hong-shim frames her face and says that if he looks closely, he’ll fall for her immediately.
Yul takes her up on the offer, scooting close and pulling her face to within inches of his, and he breathes, “From up close, you look… like nothing.” He backs up again, looking infuriatingly smug at Hong-shim’s indignant reaction.
In the morning, the bookseller is thrilled that they got so many books copied. Yul objects when he hands their pay to Hong-shim, snapping that he did all the work, but the bookseller just says they’re a perfect couple. Hong-shim offers to do any more copying work he needs, but Yul insists on more pay next time, surprising Hong-shim with his bargaining ability.
As they leave, she tells Yul that she’s proud of him, and he visibly softens. He wants to buy himself some leather boots with the money, which Hong-shim nixes, though she does agree to buy a bowl of gukbap (rice soup) for them to share. Yul calls her cheap, but she sneers that they’d be eating meat pancakes if not for his debt.
She suddenly spots Ma-chil, the loan shark, and pulls Yul into an alley to hide. She whispers that Ma-chil looks nice, but that he’s actually very cruel. But Yul doesn’t seem to be listening, more focused on Hong-shim’s nearness and the way she’s squeezing his hands tightly.
Hong-shim notices him staring, and he says that he feels very uncomfortable. She lets go of him and stammers that it’s just because it’s cramped in the alley, but Yul says that’s not what’s causing his discomfort. He tells Hong-shim, “I think my memory has returned,” never taking his eyes off her face.
COMMENTS
I’m beginning to understand that when Yul says he feels uncomfortable, what he really means is, “I don’t understand what’s happening or how to respond to it.” He uses that word whenever he’s confused, or embarrassed, or flustered, and doesn’t know what to do. It’s kind of endearing, because he’s very open with his emotions (more on that later), but it’s like he doesn’t really know how to express anything in a way other than, “This feels icky and I’m not sure why.” Also, I don’t think he literally means that he’s regained his memory — remember when he got all up close and personal with Hong-shim and pointed out that he must not have had feelings for her since his heart wasn’t pounding? I think that he’s starting to respond to Hong-shim’s nearness physically, so what he’s saying is that his body is starting to “remember” her.
I think I gave the wrong impression last week when I said that I understood why Yul acts the way he does, and that I thought Hong-shim was too harsh with him, so I’ll try to explain. I don’t in any way think that his actions are okay and hers are wrong! What I mean is that, knowing what we know of Yul and his background, I can see why he acts high-and-mighty and has little concept of the value of money. He knows that things cost money but to him, 30 yang (the amount he borrowed from the loan shark) isn’t much while to Hong-shim, it’s a fortune. I’m not making excuses for Yul’s borrowing money and refusing to work to pay it back, just saying that I can see why, under the circumstances, he didn’t understand why taking money from a loan shark was a bad thing to do.
And I do think that Hong-shim has every right to be upset, of course she does. She’s right to expect Yul to work off his own debt, and to be angry when he balks. What bugged me about the way she was treating him was that he’s obviously got a bad head injury and has no clue who he is or where he came from, yet she was giving him no consideration for the fact that he’s basically a child who’s experiencing these things for the first time. I wanted Hong-shim to explain to Yul why borrowing money from strangers is bad and why that’s such an astronomical sum of money, but she just went straight to yelling and threats without attempting to help him understand why she was so upset. So, it’s not that I think her feelings about the situation are wrong, I just wanted to see her sit him down once and explain things before resorting to anger.
However, having said all that, it definitely wasn’t okay for Yul to refuse to have his debt erased out of stubborn pride. But it’s also his pride that’s goading him into changing, now that he’s aware of how little the villagers think of him. He’s still fighting that enormous ego that tells him that physical work is beneath him, but he’s softening up enough to work willingly and make an effort to fit in, even if it still feels wrong to him. I particularly love the way Yul is starting to get all mushy about Hong-shim, even when she was still making her disapproval of him loud and clear — but I suspect that’s a big reason why Yul is falling for her. As children, it was Hong-shim’s spirit and insistence that he act right that made him fall for her in the first place, so it makes sense that, even with his memory loss, it’s those same things he’s attracted to now.
I particularly liked when Yul told Hong-shim not to allow Master Park’s inappropriate attentions… not because she belongs to him, but because he was actually worried about her. I think it said a lot when he admitted that he might be feeling jealous, and his admonition to Hong-shim not to wear makeup again carried the caveat, “Unless it’s for me.” It’s an interesting side effect to Yul’s enormous pride, that he’s open about whatever he’s feeling, almost like it would be beneath him to deny his emotions. I’m so used to haughty drama heroes hiding their feelings out of pride, but for Yul, it seems to work the other way around — he’s too proud not to be honest. So when he’s wrong, he admits it, and when he’s emotional, he says so. It’s infuriating, but it also makes Yul pretty reliable when it comes to figuring out what he’s thinking or feeling… all you have to do is ask him.
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1 June
September 25, 2018 at 8:20 PM
I'm so glad the cute is finally glad!! :D
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June
September 26, 2018 at 7:32 PM
Omg, just realise belatedly of my typo galore.. *faint* too excited and happy about this week's episodes, the cute, the funny, the feel, in bliss. Can't wait for next week's episodes
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Flightey Gazelles
September 27, 2018 at 3:06 AM
oh don't worry, I LOL at the typo cause it's true, the cute is glad and so are we..lol
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2 Lizzie
September 25, 2018 at 8:22 PM
You really didn't need to clarify why you defended Yool and his actions. I think he mentioned that he didn't know that the guy was a loan shark. That doesn't mean it was okay or that wouldn't have taken the money but it wasn't okay for the commenters to lash out on him.
As for Hongshim I understand her feelings. I wouldn't like it if my husband was useless but I thought parading that fact in front of the town was too much.
As for physical work being beneath him I didn't get that vibe. What I think is that he doesn't want to make a fool of himself. I think it's what you said about him and the uncomfortable thing.
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3 luzitania
September 25, 2018 at 8:26 PM
I am a little confused about this new transcribing job. If Hong-shim can read, can't she write too? Wouldn't she be able to do the job by herself? Though I am not complaining about them reading sexy chapters to get closer. :D
I like Yul despite how frustrating he can be as a character. Yes, I wouldn't like being called a fool either but it's not like he actually came up with a solution. Hong Shim is busting her ass off trying to get them out of this debt that he brought on them and he just sneers at everything. Despite all this, I still find him endearing. He really tried to find something he is good at this episode and he just failed miserably.
Poor sweetie trying to cut wood was so funny. Thank god, they found out about his literary skills so he can start shining in front of Hong-shim.
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LollyPip
September 25, 2018 at 8:45 PM
IIRC, didn't Yoon-hee start dressing up as her brother in Sungkyunkwan Scandal to be allowed to do the same work of copying books? Hong-shim may not be allowed to copy books even if she's literate.
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kiara
September 25, 2018 at 9:15 PM
She is in hiding. She'd blow her cover because only nobles had that kind of privilege.
She told Kkeut-nyeo that Mencius was her father's friend lol.
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nlke
September 28, 2018 at 7:33 AM
if this is true, does that mean that all those raunchy books were written by nobles??? and who transcribed books when needed, also nobles? genuinely curious. and is it fine that wondeul does it? i wonder why they aren't wondering if he's a noble too...
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kiara
September 28, 2018 at 9:58 AM
Those who work at the entertainment business like the gisaengs were well trained in all types of art, literature, dancing, singing, poetry etc so some of them were accomplished writers like the famous Hwang Jini and Uhwudong.
Some of them were not always government slaves. They were daughters of concubines or fallen nobles. (Hong-shim would be considered a fallen noble and that is why she is hiding. If her life would be spared she would end up as a gisaeng ).
They were sent to government owned gibangs to entertain yangbans (aristocrats) and government officials.
(The gibang shown at eps 4 where Soo-ji took Je-yoon to is definitely owned by the government. Je-yoon is a half yangban(son of a concubine) so he is not supposed to go there and Minister Jung's son told him so).
Anyway, I'm getting off track here but I wanted to give examples from the drama.
kiara
September 28, 2018 at 10:15 AM
Because of the nature of their work gisaengs came to mind first. They live in such a confined environment serving men every day and are often experience heartache etc so some would express it in poems and novels.
There were also interpreters (low government officials and some work independently in trades).
Lord Park's friend the magistrate would be a good example but he calls the shot in the village.
If he lost his day job, I suspect that he'd be writing raunchy novels for a living lol.
kiara
October 10, 2018 at 6:22 AM
I guess the novels were written in Hangul so anyone could've written it.
Hangul was more common among women and lower class because it was easier to learn.
Ann
September 25, 2018 at 8:51 PM
I was confused by Hong Shim not being able to do the transcribing work herself then I realised she might be hiding her literacy so people cannot hunt her down. It would be very odd in that time for a penniless lady to be able to read and write.
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kiara
September 25, 2018 at 9:07 PM
Hong-shim can definitely read and write. She was quoting Mencius back then and she figured out that Yul didn't know the basic elementary learning.
I think she is making Yul work his butt off to pay for his own debt.
His confrontation with creepy Park was rather entertaining! Go Yul, call them so call nobles out on their bad behaviors.
I'd say don't mess with an amnesia poetic prince. It'll make one very uncomfortable lol.
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SamVas
September 25, 2018 at 9:39 PM
I think she does the transcribing job already. That's how she knows the book vendor. She must do that for him but she and WD together got a lot done way quicker. That's why he exclaims that they are meant for each other.
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watcher
September 25, 2018 at 11:59 PM
Hongshim can write. She wrote Jeyoon that letter thanking him for the lantern. She's probably excited that Yul can write because (1) they can transcribe more books together and earn more money, and (2) they've finally found a way for him to make money, since he can't perform physical labor.
Also, aside from being proud, another reason he didn't want to lie in exchange for debt forgiveness is probably because he doesn't fully appreciate what being in debt means. Either because of the amnesia, or because he was sheltered while living in the palace, he doesn't yet fully understand the real-life negative consequences of owing 30 nyeong as a normal citizen.
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kiara
September 26, 2018 at 5:45 PM
I like the idea of them working together to speed things up.
I agree that Yul's debt problem seems to be more about him being sheltered and coming from money than amnesia.
I blame the writings for the confusion because some of his other actions doesn't add up. He got the best education in the country and there is also common sense.
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luzitania
September 26, 2018 at 8:36 AM
Thanks for the answers. That makes more sense now. Indeed, if she was in hiding, she wouldn't want to broadcast her literary skills and her noble heritage. Fair enough. :)
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4 smolo
September 25, 2018 at 8:59 PM
Looking back, I wondered how Yul/Wondeuk managed to grow up to be a good person despite what has happened in the past. Normal dramaland scenarios will make turn characters into villains (such as what happened to hongshim’s brother, but then we still don’t know what actually made him like than). But then seeing how Yul lived with guilt for Hongshim’s supposed death led me to realize how Yul’s current set of values was established thanks to Hongshim (and maybe his mom) and his puppy love and genuine admiration of Hongshim made him really hold on to these values.
Anyway, I really love seeing Wondeuk now. He is still Yul but one that is free. Free from politics, from burdens, from danger, from pain. Yul is a genuinely good person, but he covers it with this irritating persona merely for the purpose of protecting himself from being consumed by the monsters in the palace. Now, the supposedly stupid Wondeuk that we are seeing is just Yul having a hard time peeling off the mask that he has been forced to wear for the past 16 years. And I’m relived to see those really small moments of Wondeuk having a small smile in his face, it just means that the thorns that he has been carrying are pulled out one by one.
Hongshim is such a strong woman, I say this not because of her actions and how she “manhandles” Wondeuk but because of how her desire to live and survive for the sake of her dead father just makes her just gloss over whatever trials that come her way. Seeing how frustrated she was with Wondeuk (specially with that debt), she still manages to still “think” of solutions when most people would’ve just broken down and fall into self pitty. I feel her being tired of being strong and reliable for most of her life, and she’s just waiting for someone who she can rely on and she can just pour out her heart to. *Enters wondeuk* LOL
I’m so excited how their relationship will evolve, It’s so clear how they really need each other.
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whoopeeyoo
September 26, 2018 at 10:53 PM
This was so well-said! And I agree so much. Honestly, more than focusing or nitpicking the obvious weak points of the drama, I find myself just trying to enjoy the Wonshim couple and their own personal trajectories. Of course, each kdrama watcher has different sensibilities and priorities but heh, I love me a good rom-com so I'm choosing to focus on that so I can enjoy two of my favorite actors being leads together.
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smolo
September 27, 2018 at 12:28 AM
Super agree. I have very high expectations of this show and I can't help but feel ever so slightly disappointed at some parts (LOL) but I just get reminded of how the leads and even all the other characters are sooo well casted that I know I will enjoy regardless of the flow of the story. I even feel excited when Guard Kwon appears hahaha I feel like they're all important to the story and not just "supporting" characters.
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5 Mimu
September 25, 2018 at 9:12 PM
Hong Shim's using her lawyer skills (that she learned in Suspicious Partner) in this episode.🤣
When she mentioned "50 shadows of *something*", I almost read it as "50 shades of grey".🤣🤣
I'm really liking Hong Shim's chemistry with Je-Yoon.
Yeol leaves me grinning and anticipating for the next episode.
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watcher
September 26, 2018 at 12:08 AM
I also immediately thought of 50 Shades of Grey. I suspect that that's what the author intended since some scenes are kinda meta, and the book HS read afterwards was a fanfic/romance novel. 50 Shadows = 50 Shades. Haha.
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6 Ek Ladhki Thi
September 25, 2018 at 9:16 PM
The top 2 moments that made me laugh really hard this episode were the 50 Shades of Grey reference and Won-deuk reading the lyrics to Boy In Love with a straight face.
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LollyPip
September 26, 2018 at 12:15 AM
You people are awesome, I *totally* missed that! But yep, he was reading the lyrics to "Boy in Luv" by BTS. I need to pay closer attention!
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Lelly19
September 26, 2018 at 12:56 AM
Wait...what about the lyrics?? Did I miss something?? I'm lost! 😂😂
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Ek Ladhki Thi
September 26, 2018 at 7:12 AM
Sang namja is the Korean title for Boy In Love and the title of one of the books Won-deuk has to transcribed is tale of the sang namja or tale of the manly man. The beginning of boy in love is "I want to be your oppa" but I guess to fit the joseon language the writer switched it to "I want to be your orabeoni". Then the chorus is basically the same "hold onto me before I jump on you". I found it hilarious because Kyungsoo is in EXO and it is a BTS song. It's like a textbook example of irony. The feud between both fandoms is legendary in kpop.
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Lelly19
September 26, 2018 at 10:05 AM
Thank you for the detailed explanation! I went on to listen to the song earlier, but I really didn't get the actual reference, so thanks a lot!
And yeah, it's indeed hilarious 😂
7 angie9898
September 25, 2018 at 9:43 PM
hmm could the queen's son be the father of the crown princess's child?that could explain why he seems overly concerned about her and why she hasn't killed off her baby daddy yet.
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Yashashree Jadhav
September 25, 2018 at 9:46 PM
I think the father is probably the guy colluding with the queen. So he can get the best of both worlds. Whether the queen gain power or the crown princess he will be benefitted.
Or in a super turn of events, if the brother/assassin is the father?
But the second prince seems unlikely, specially because of his age.
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Johahaeyo
September 26, 2018 at 1:06 AM
I was thinking the exact same thing!! first I thought it was the brother/assassin then the crown prince and now i'm pretty sure its the sneaky minister guy that's helping the Queen!!
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capt_blackdog is dirty but pretty
September 25, 2018 at 10:14 PM
This episode made me think the same, buuut... isn't he supposed to be, like, 16 or something?
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kiara
September 25, 2018 at 10:38 PM
Prince Seowon should be around 15 or younger. Yul's father married the new queen after he ascended the throne 16 yrs ago.
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transient
September 25, 2018 at 11:05 PM
People mature at earlier age back then. So it is plausible that Prince Seowon is the father of the child.
Based on his conversation with the queen, I think he's in love with Crown Princess too. But I'm not sure if the feeling is mutual. However, given the first impression that the young crown princess had of young Yul, it would be understandable if the crown princess is lonely and yearns for love from another man.
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capt_blackdog is dirty but pretty
September 26, 2018 at 12:38 AM
I get that I'm looking at it from modern perspective, but still... I'm kinda not feeling this twist. I'd rather the prince loved the Crown Princess, but she hooked up with another man.
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watcher
September 26, 2018 at 1:15 AM
I agree with your modern perspective. Despite the fact that, historically, royals married in their teens, I don't think that this 2018 TvN comedy/drama (high on entertainment and low on historical accuracy) would depict a 15 yr old having an affair with his 28 yr old sister-in-law and fathering a child. The primary audience for this drama would find that scenario hard to stomach.
kiara
September 26, 2018 at 6:24 AM
I think it's more to do with us wanting things to make sense.
Prince Seowon was just a newborn or was not even born yet when So-hye married his brother.
It's pretty provocative and improper for that time period for them to be engaging in an affair.
I don't mind the writer going for shock factors but her reasoning behind it needs to make sense.
I'd also prefer if she'd concentrate on the rom.com aspects of the show instead of going more towards the dark and makjang territory.
8 Yashashree Jadhav
September 25, 2018 at 9:43 PM
I personally am loving this show so far. This episode had some good progress and set up for what seems like a really good episode 6.
Yul/WonDeuk is starting to open up to Hong Shim and Hong Shim is slowly liking him back too.
The few genuine smiles we got from the both of them in this episode made my day.
At the same time Hong Shim's slap also made my day because it was well deserved. It was a wake-up slap and did him good.
I want to know how he is processing the memory flashes he got in the previous episode and really want him to get some more. What I reallllly want is for him to soon (maybe next week?) get his memories back and purposely stay with HongShim and somehow work with Je Yoon to gain back his position (and take HongShim with him for good measure)
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Yashashree Jadhav
September 25, 2018 at 9:49 PM
Also it was so satisfying for Yul/WonDeul to finally step up for HongShim at the party to save her dignity from Park .
The lantern scene was also beautifully done. Such a pretty scene! (p.s. where can I get one of those wish lanterns?)
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watcher
September 26, 2018 at 12:17 AM
20 lotus lanterns for $30.
https://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Floating-Lanterns-Birthday-Wedding/dp/B00O88CEKY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1537946126&sr=8-4&keywords=lotus+lantern
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9 spazmo
September 25, 2018 at 9:59 PM
is it just me or does Kim Jae Young sound (and sort of looks) like Woo Do Hwan? his voice is very similar...
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bong-soo
September 26, 2018 at 9:05 PM
I am not sure yet about the resemblance. I have only seen WDW in MAD DOG.
Sidebar. Do Kyung-soo and KJY worked together in HELLO MONSTER/I REMEMBER YOU. One of my favorites and the only D.O. drama I have seen until 100DMP. I am really enjoying his performance here.
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10 capt_blackdog is dirty but pretty
September 25, 2018 at 10:16 PM
Oh man, that earthworm soup is magical – it made Won Deuk smile! By the way, I gagged along with him and immediately did my research – yup, that's a thing. The earthworm soup is a thing. The more you know!
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Kafiyah Bello
September 26, 2018 at 11:44 AM
I totally screamed nooooooo when she put that worm in the soup. Lol
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June
September 26, 2018 at 7:28 PM
I was more, "Are you alright holding that squirming thing in your hand?"
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11 panshel
September 25, 2018 at 11:05 PM
I jumped for joy when they finally found something Yul was good at. I kept yelling at
Hong Shimmy screen, "Get him a job in education!! Not hard labor!" Yul reading a passage from one of the romance novels in his monotone voice had me rolling. "I wish to be your orabeoni. Hold me tight before I... jump on you." I love how grumpy Yul is just like how grumpy Kyungsoo is in EXO. This is the perfect role for him.My favorite relationship in this show continues to be Yul and Gu Dol. "You are no friend of mine. You called me dumb in front of other people." Yul, who chastises anyone who dares to touch him, lets Gu Dol shove food in his mouth and sleep on top of him. With Dong Joo sadly dead, I'm thankful our crown prince has real friends. I wish Hong Shim had snuck some meat pancakes from the party for her husband like Gu Dol did for his wife. Who is this shady, trippy guy?
Je Yoon's lantern gesture was swoon. I hope he finds out Hong Shim is a married woman soon as not to prolong his heartbreak. Thanks a bunch for recapping, @LollyPip!
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watcher
September 26, 2018 at 12:23 AM
I'm sure the words are different in Korean, but when translated to English, the worms sounded like "Baekhyun worms." Made me laugh.
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Ek Ladhki Thi
September 26, 2018 at 7:18 AM
This is such a misconception people have about Kyungsoo. He is in fact not grumpy at all. He's very goofy and he laughs a lot. It only seems like he's grumpy in EXO because everyone (read Baekhyun) is loud as fuck in EXO.
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12 Andrea
September 26, 2018 at 12:07 AM
I ship it SO. HARD. Honestly, when they have their first kiss I'll be reduced to a swooning puddle on the floor. Pray for me.
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Lelly19
September 26, 2018 at 1:00 AM
Let's pray together! 😂
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gumgum
September 26, 2018 at 2:45 AM
praying for and with you huhuhu
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Flightey Gazelles
September 27, 2018 at 3:20 AM
Me too! I'm surprised by all the innuendos in this show, to think Kyung Soo is an idol.
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Andrea
September 27, 2018 at 8:27 AM
True - I hope they won't let the fact that he's an idol stop this couple from getting realistic, passionate kisses. They have so much chemistry, if they only have dead fish-kisses, I'll be very disappointed. I hope Kyungsoo won't get backlash from his fans for any kissing scenes, either - he is an established actor as well as an idol, after all, what would they expect?
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Lelly19
September 27, 2018 at 9:23 AM
I don't expect any backlash...fans have been preparing themselves for a long time, now XD
They keep repeating "it's just acting" lol
And many others are just as eager as we are to see a real kissing scene after a few fake-outs in his other projects XD
Furthermore, other EXO members had their share of on-screen kisses without problems! It's going to be ok! And I hope it's going to be soon!!!
Btw Kyungsoo is very professional and serious in his job, he would never let immature fans stop him from doing what's needed (because we absolutely need it!!!) ;)
Plus this is tvn, they don't hold back!! XD
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Andrea
September 27, 2018 at 9:46 AM
I hope so - I think every international fan would agree with you, anyway. You never know about hardcore Korean idol fans, but like you said, Kyungsoo is very level-headed and serious about his acting and wouldn't let fans get in the way of that. So we're good ;)
13 WaterBottle
September 26, 2018 at 12:15 AM
I was impressed by D.O's acting abilities here. I mean, he was good from episode one, but in this one he brought such a variety of subtle facial expressions. Plus he was extremely funny in the "Yul-can't-do-any-job" montage. Never knew he had that kind of comedic chops.
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bea
September 28, 2018 at 7:53 AM
he's actually very funny according to his members, he's just quite shy so he can't be his usual funny self in front of a crowd of 5000 fans or in shows where they're expected to be funny. I watched him in his web drama Pure Love and he was so funny in that haha
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14 Kurama
September 26, 2018 at 12:42 AM
I'm not a fan of the acting of DO. He doesn't have nuances in his gaze or ton of voice. I don't feel empathy for his character, not that his character is bad but I don't just really care for him. I'm more curious about Honghsim and her brother or the investigation of Je Yoon.
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15 gumgum
September 26, 2018 at 12:45 AM
I know it's Yul's pride, and I'm happy to see that he's trying this time to be helpful at home and to Hongshim, (the faces he makes as he fails lmao) but he really deserved that slap. I was so mad he could say that to her. But I have to understand he couldn't handle the humiliation and said that to spite her. Hahaha but apart from that, I'm glad they're starting to warm up to each other, even if just a bit. I like that I can see the romance already, it's starting to show. When he wouldn't allow her to work for Master Park, when he said he might be jealous, the number of times he looked at her lips (!!!) - he's falling for her, and I think I like how he's coming to terms with it. I wonder when Hongshim will feel the same, what it'll take on Wondeuk's end.
Jeyoon, second lead syndrome, sigh. I felt it. Hahahahaha
The way he was looking at her as he said he thinks his memories have returned - as if to say his body remembers how he felt for her - my favorite scene from this episode.
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kiyomipink
September 26, 2018 at 1:26 AM
I'm actually kind of hoping Je Yoon and Ae Wol get together/like each other. Usually I hate it when they bring in a second female lead just because the second male lead doesn't get the girl, but I feel like they could be a fun couple. I really like Ae Wol even though we don't know anything about her
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Watcher
September 26, 2018 at 11:21 AM
I also like Ae Wol. I like the fact that she took the initiative to get assigned to his room in the geisha house so they could meet again. I also like the fact that she called him out on his disease when he didn't recognize her on the street (and the fact that he could only identify people by voice instead of face). She's a smart go-getter but not pushy. They'll probably end up together.
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Flightey Gazelles
September 27, 2018 at 3:27 AM
I likee Ae Wol too.
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16 kooriyuki
September 26, 2018 at 12:50 AM
Hi Lollypip, the hanja means "heel", not "elbow". Thanks!
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LollyPip
September 26, 2018 at 1:10 AM
Whoops, that it does! I'll correct it in the next recap. Thanks!
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17 Lelly19
September 26, 2018 at 1:14 AM
I don't know, maybe my love for Kyungsoo is oversgadowing all the rest (which I doubt tbh), but I don't really find Won Deuk annoying! 😅
Of course I understand a lot of his actions are indeed annoying for the other characters, but I'm not feeling it directly, I find it endearing most of the times, especially during this week's episodes! 😊
Anyways, thanks for the recap once again! ♡
I totally agree with your clarification about last week recap, and I personally was feeling the same that time too...it's a hard situation for both of them, but Won Deuk is not acting like that on porpouse, he lost his memory and was suddenly thrown in a unknown environment, plus he was forced/convinced to get married to a stranger...he deserves at least some explanations, from time to time, imo! 😊
Well...is it Monday already?!?!? 😭
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18 kiyomipink
September 26, 2018 at 1:22 AM
Although I understand the frustrations and how that leads to arguing and this being a necessary part of the plot I'm excited to finally be getting things moving!
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19 Johahaeyo
September 26, 2018 at 1:29 AM
Finding the Crown Princesses baby daddy is like The Reply me series all over again: Sageuk Edition
Bachelors
baby faced Prince: would rather watch cartoon
brother/assassin: kills the mood more than anything else!
creepy minister guy: throwing more shade than a royal umbrella
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Midnight
September 26, 2018 at 11:25 AM
Haha, except does he have to be a bachelor?
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Johahaeyo
September 26, 2018 at 12:48 PM
I'm not so sure? Do you think it could be a married guy? I've had a gut feeling every time these characters showed up near/mentioned the Crown Princess!
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Midnight
September 26, 2018 at 1:22 PM
I'm only joking of course, teasing to make your list longer.
The only thing I definitely know is that even if it is a bachelor there is no way he can marry her later. I remember in Dae Jang Geum it was mentioned and stressed many times that all the women in the palace, from the Queen, to the concubines, to the maids, were the King's Women. And when a king died they could choose to continue living and working at the palace, or go and live in a cottage with a female companion. Even the maids weren't allowed to marry. So I guess it would be absolutely impossible for the Queen.
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Midnight
September 26, 2018 at 1:45 PM
I forgot to include the court ladies.
Johahaeyo
September 27, 2018 at 10:10 AM
haha I'm completely oblivious when it comes to joking😂
20 DelSatu
September 26, 2018 at 2:36 AM
Breaking news: Joseon people do die from the fall on doom! I'm so used to them surviving the fall that I was suprised they found a (dead) body!
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Lelly19
September 26, 2018 at 2:50 AM
2 dead bodies!! (I mean, we didn't actually see one, still..)
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PakalanaPikake
September 26, 2018 at 5:20 AM
@delsatu,
It's actually pretty traumatic that we had multiple scenes of the decomposing corpse of Yul's poor bodyguard. At least we didn't have to see the dead fletcher, too.
Maybe @yyishere YY can clarify which cliffs s/he was playing this time. I think it's because it was not the Genuine Sageuk Cliff Of Non-Doom, which could be in the midst of filming another production, or on a much-needed vacation. Accept no substitutes -- unless you really need fatalities. ;-)
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Kafiyah Bello
September 26, 2018 at 11:46 AM
I was surprised too, this drama is really quite dark
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TAS-Mania
September 26, 2018 at 11:48 AM
Kinda like the truck of doom - some die while some survive.
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21 nemo
September 26, 2018 at 2:43 AM
five out of fifteen and otp barely starting to gel still got all the court scheming to come to kill the mood. not much of a romcom really. hows she gonna deal when she finds her brother and finds hes a stone cold killer? are we gonna get like two episodes of otp cute before angst and agony return? then maybe one happy episode to wrap? tvn should be sued for false advertising the way the pitched this in the trailers
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midjohn33
September 26, 2018 at 3:01 AM
I agree with you that she's going to be seriously bummed when she finds out how her long lost and long longed for brother has been making a living. But on the plus side, he's a killer, she's literate, they could be a brother sister hit team like John and Joan Cusack. Although this Drama is nowhere near as good as Grosse Pointe Blank
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Lelly19
September 26, 2018 at 3:01 AM
Personally I don't feel false advertised (?) at all, tbh...
He is a crown prince that disappears and gets to live as a peasants, marrying a random girl..even from this premise we can expect a troubled story.
Besides, these last 4 episodes where quite fun for the most part, and next week (SPOILERS??) we are up for some romance too, based on previews..
I don't know, maybe it's just me having a more positive attitude? ^^
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nemo
September 26, 2018 at 3:07 AM
your idea of fun is different from mine. first two episodes were almost all blood and murder and death arrows in throats betrayals and beheadings low on my list of things i find quite fun. same for walking people off cliffs while saying 'thanks for your work' and none of those gory murderous bits featured in the trailers at all was my point.
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Lelly19
September 26, 2018 at 3:16 AM
Yeah, that's why I said "the last 4 episodes" (excluding the first 2, which had a darker tone throughout) and "for the most part" ;)
I guess I'm focusing on the good stuff :)
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Lelly19
September 26, 2018 at 3:41 AM
OK, I got curious, so I went to re-watch the trailers, since I didn't really remember them well...and I think you didn't watch them all, or you forgot like myself, maybe, because they actually showed most of what you mentioned they supposedly didn't ;)
If you want you can check this one, for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_-GQZGyE4Y
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bea
September 28, 2018 at 8:03 AM
that was a really good trailer. and it really didn't make the drama look like a romcom.
shark
September 26, 2018 at 8:17 AM
do you come into every episode to gripe about how bad the drama is and how much her brother is a stone cold killer and she's all going to go to pieces and the entire drama is a flop? I mean I've seen you in every episode recap saying pretty much the same thing. Stop watching it already if it bothers you so much.
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22 nadhira amalia
September 26, 2018 at 3:36 AM
Idk why but this drama remind me a lot with The Moon Embrace The Sun. 😭
DO sounds similar to Kim Soo Hyun omg. and the story is so good. i love it so much.
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23 Roshen
September 26, 2018 at 4:58 AM
The more I watch this drama, the more I'm amazed by Kyungsoo's acting. Even with his deathly stare, he shows thousands of emotions. And of course, Nam Ji-hyun is one great actress too, showing her badass side. I just love how everything is being laid out for us as the episodes roll by and I can't wait for more swoon and mushy scenes teehee. Can I just also say that Yul is one hell of a pompous sexy amnesiac Crown Prince!
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24 PakalanaPikake
September 26, 2018 at 7:02 AM
Thanks for your recap and comments, LollyPip.
While protein-enhanced earthworm soup sounds gross, it may actually have supported Yul's healing process. Lumbrokinase enzyme obtained from earthworms is used to open up capillary circulation. ;-)
The scenes of Hong-shim and Je-yoon with the floating lanterns were lovely and poignant. Kim Sun-ho turned in a wonderful performance up against Jo Jung-seok's straight-arrow detective as an impish con artist in a coma whose spirit takes over the latter's body in TWO COPS. It's one of the reasons why I'm tuning in. I'm enjoying him in this more serious role. I have to chuckle over yet another case of Kdrama face blindness (cf. THE UNDATEABLES). This could be a lot of fun when Seja's loyal investigator finally stumbles across his boss, whom he may only be able to recognize by voice or handwriting since he won't be in court garb.
LOL at Won-deok's thwarted "will work for food" interlude at Nobleman Park's birthday bash. After discovering how bad he is at so many manual tasks, I was glad Yul finally recalled his literary aptitudes. But shouldn't that have made everyone suspicious of a literate stranger suddenly showing up in their humble dorf? I can just see Nobleman Park ratting him out in a future episode. Ahn Suk-hwan excels at playing nobles of all shades and stripes. He's in lubricious top form in this role.
Minister of the Left Kim Cha-un should have listened to his assassin when he tried to do due diligence by returning to the mountain to retrieve Seja's body after the ambush. But did he? Nope. And now he's blaming him for whacking the wrong guy. Moo-yeon can't catch a break even once. What a rotten fate.
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kiara
September 26, 2018 at 8:04 AM
This was a soup episode and we even have a soup Nazi in Park's friend lol.
Earthworm soup, gukbap soup, bird's nest soup. Each comes with a purpose.
My fav would be the birthday bash scene. I love me a battle of wits especially when it involves defending the weak and the common people.
I was totally in love with Do during that scene. Talk about romantic, poetic, quick wit and highly intelligent.
Mocking Park and his elementary poem was spot on. Being compared to (Du Fu the Chinese version of Shakespeare) was pretty hilarious even if his friend was sucking up to him.
Everything about these old nobles creeps me out. The bird's nest soup that was presented as a gift is meant to increase one's sexual drive. (A bit different from the translation).Hence the joke about Park getting married again.
I agree with you that his literary aptitudes should make everyone suspicious but no one seems to even Hong-shim of all people.
She should know that he couldn't have learnt all of it from serving in the military. He has got to be at least from a noble family.
When Hong-shim mentioned monk Wonhyo he should know that common people don't know who he is. They have both given each other clues that they are not peasants.
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PakalanaPikake
September 26, 2018 at 9:24 AM
@kiara,
LOL! I didn't even pick up on how often soup was mentioned, although I suspected that the bird's nest soup was an aphrodisiac -- perfectly in keeping with the intended slimeball recipient.
Nobleman Park's literary creation sounded to me like something from Dr. Seuss rather than Willy the Shake. LOL!
I'm looking forward to Yul's finally hitting his stride with his effortless transcription -- which for him is duck soup. But how many manuscripts will he have to copy to pay off his debt? ;-)
I'm also wondering if a baddie will recognize his handwriting. On the other hand, what are the chances of Minister of the Left Kim and his minions reading trashy potboilers? Mayhap the Crown Princess consorting with low-class un-Confucian contraband to ease her loneliness? LOL.
If ever there should have been a secret handshake to identify a fellow noble in mufti, the literary references in this episode should have done the trick. But no. I guess it will take a while to percolate in the back of their minds.
I found a bit of information on monk Wonhyo, who sounds like an interesting personage.
https://inthefootstepsofwonhyo.com/about/planning/
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kiara
September 26, 2018 at 11:36 AM
@pakalanapikake
Haha I was thinking that maybe the writer is a real foodie or maybe it's a stab at the high and mighty nobles?
The ingredients sounds pretty gross, earthworms, bird spit (no thank you) but it was considered a delicacy beside it's healing effect.
Despite these nobles' high birth, they are nothing but the scum of the earth.
Haha nobleman Park and his expression "It is yellow, it is red." "Oh the blue sky" had me rofl. He was convinced that it was brilliant.
Ahn Suk-hwan is doing a good job and that goes for the rest of the veterans, Jo Sung-ha, Jung Hae-kyun etc.
I'm glad that they are stepping up to compensate for the writing.
I think Minister Kim or Jong Jae-yoon would recognize Yul's handwriting so maybe our detective with the crush on Hong-shim would discover it first.
I do feel for the crown princess. I think Yul is not the only one who loathe her father. I think she does too and getting pregnant was her way of rebelling against him. Now she has the power to destroy him.
I think she loves Yul in her own way because she understood what he was going through. It wasn't her choice to marry him either.
Oh thanks for the link on Wonhyo. It's sad that Korea seemed to have gone backward with Joseon.
A Silla lowborn would've heard or learnt of Wonhyo but a lowborn in Joseon would be ignorance.
I think that Samguk Yusa especially or the Sagi and other unofficial historical documents would have mentioned Wonhyo but the lowborn of Joseon were illiterate.
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PakalanaPikake
September 26, 2018 at 6:19 PM
@kiara,
Yul as royal picky eater is a piece of work, but I can commiserate with him because I'm one, too. Between all the recent food pron in LET'S EAT 3 and YOUR HONOR, and what I'm anticipating in DAE JANG-GEUM IS WATCHING when it premieres on 4 October, I'm going bonkers. Have mercy.
Hey, here's another potential addition to Hong-shim's culinary repertoire: stone soup. That could be the "earthworm-free" option for Won-deok. Har!
Monk Wonhyo was a native of Shilla, so maybe it's no wonder that the average resident of that kingdom would have known about him. Local boy made good. ;-)
Might general knowledge of Wonhyo have been lost with the suppression of Buddhist temples in the Joseon Dynasty? IIRC, Buddhism had formerly been the state religion during the Goryeo era, and had earlier found royal favor during the Three Kingdoms period. In THE KING'S DAUGHTER, SU BAEK HYANG, Baekje's 25th King, Muryeong, sent scriptures to Japan along with teachers. His son, who reigned as King Seong "The Holy," made Buddhism the state religion of Baekje, and continued his father's outreach to Japan. The famed Guze Kannon statue is a likeness of Seong that was sent to Japan during his successor's reign. Seong ascended the throne in 523. Wonhyo was born in Shilla in 617.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seong_of_Baekje#Foreign_relations_and_Buddhism
See also "Legacy" for info on Guze Kannon.
I just realized that Queen Park's co-conspirator, Minister Jung Sa-yeob, is Je-yoon's half-brother, right? He also seems to be the father of the Crown Princess's baby. My mind still boggles at how they were able to pull that off despite so many spies on the premises. Or perhaps someone is already privy to it, and is just giving them enough rope to hang themselves. As for the pregnancy being a form of revenge or rebellion against her father, it surely is self-destructive. There's no way this situation can end in anything other than tears and a blood bath.
kiara
September 26, 2018 at 8:43 PM
@pakalanapikake
Wait, is this Dae Jang-geum a cooking show? I'm so out of touch with dramaland. Craving sageuks is the only reason I'm here.
I'm not a picky eater. I must have been a peasant in my past life but you my friend must have been a queen dowager 🙇.
Adding duck soup and stone soup to today's menu lol.
Iryeon who compiled Samguk Yusa was a Goryeo monk (probably a Shilla descendant too). I'm positive that he wrote about Wonhyo too.
Buddhism was the state religion in Goguryeo, Shilla and probably Baekje way before Goryeo was established.
His name being forgotten or lost during the Joseon era's suppression of Buddhism makes so much sense.
The teaching of Confucian scholars was the ideal.
I have a feeling that the crown princess will not go down alone in the end.
PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2018 at 1:29 AM
@kiara September 26, 2018 at 8:43 PM
Re: DAE JANG-GEUM IS WATCHING, it is supposed to center around 3 siblings who can all cook. Dae Jang-geum is their ancestress. It makes me wonder if there will be a past time line, but I know nix about the plot. It would be cool if there were some sageuk flashbacks. The draw for me is Shin Dong-wook headlining. I'm attempting to hold my horses to see what he cooks up. ;-)
I don't think I was a queen dowager in a past life, LOL. I simply inherited Mom's keen olfactory sense and taste buds, which have definitely been a mixed blessing. While it surely made smelling the flowers in my erstwhile garden a lot of fun, it also means that many modern fragrances stink like the dregs of chemical factories. Alas, I live near of a “perfume” bottling plant. When the wind shifts, I frequently gag on the fumes. Sometimes I can taste it. Yuck!
Re: Samguk Yusa
In Joseon days, would Samguk Yusa and other ancient texts have been translated into Hangul so commoners could read them? It's not clear when 100 DAYS is set. I realize that there was much resistance to using Hangul at court and among scholars for quite some time after it was launched. It just occurred to me that if Hangul were introduced in the village, it would not be odd for Hong-shim to learn to write – because that was King Sejong's intention from the start. When she gets good at it, she could teach it. So could Won-deok – as a public service. How delightfully subversive. ;-)
kiara
September 27, 2018 at 8:53 AM
@pakalanapikake
That is quite interesting that Dae Jang-geum is more popular for her cooking than her medical skills.
The cooking part in the drama was created by the writer and it was a brilliant idea because people back then treated food as medicine.
I'm waiting for my sageuk man bias Yeo Jin-gu and I'm even more excited that he is paired with another sageuk fav Lee See-young.
I will probably marathon "Mr Sunshine" while I wait for it.
Anyway, it's understandable that Yul would be picky about food since he was raised in the palace.
His body wants food that he is used to, like meat so he lowered his pride to work for some meat pancakes.
Aw he is on his way to become one of the "village people" 😁.
In Joseon days every government official documents were written in classical Chinese still and that includes historical texts.
I think the majority of it hasn't been converted to Hangul. Most of the historical texts that were translated into English was translated straight from the original language.
I like it that way because it's more accurate.
As for the timeline, I'd go with the current currency "yang" (if the translation is correct) so I were to pin this drama down to a timeline I would say somewhere between 1892–1902. This drama doesn't even feel like Gojong's era and I'm not even looking for clues.
PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2018 at 10:15 AM
@kiara September 27, 2018 at 8:53 AM
I didn't realize that THE cooking aspect of DAE JANG GEUM was fictional, but it certainly fits in with the idea of nutrition as a basic building block of healthy minds and bodies, herbal medicine, and the kitchen pharmacy. Many aromatic herbs and spices have potent medicinal properties. In that vein, one of my favorite books is Food and Healing by Annemarie Colbin, founder of the Natural Gourmet School of Cookery in NYC. She was a terrific speaker and educator. Her recipes emphasized balancing meals by including each of the Five Elements to keep one's ch'i flowing smoothly through all the organs and meridians.
I can understand why Yul is fixated on meat. He's probably not getting enough fat or protein in his diet, and is eating less than he would have at the palace. It's not merely because of old dietary habits. He is healing from an infected wound, which I expect increases his need for protein to form new tissue. I can't begin to speculate on nutritional support for his central nervous system. But I'd hazard a guess that some of the traditional fermented foods would be good sources of B vitamins, which would help his central nervous system and mental functioning. Herbs such as rosemary and gingko leaf have been used to support memory.
Like you, I'm eagerly awaiting the drama remake of MASQUERADE, which I loved as a movie. January cannot come soon enough. I'm anticipating great performances from Yeo Jin-gu and Lee Se-young. I loved her turn as Zombie Girl Bu Ja in HWAYUGI, but haven't seen her other sageuks that I can recall.
As for the translation of historic records, etc., from hanja, as a translator, I agree that using the original sources is best. That way there is less opportunity for errors and omissions to creep in.
Holy cow! I would never have guessed that 100 DAYS and MR. SUNSHINE would occupy the same portion of the space time continuum. What a mind-blower. I've got whiplash. LOL. Using the currency as a point of reference is a great way to pin down the approximate dates for this fable. In this case, I'll just think of it as happening in an idealized generic Joseon situated "long ago and far away." ;-)
As always, thanks for your insights. And the reminder about MASQUERADE. ;-)
PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2018 at 1:48 AM
To beat the soup metaphor into the ground, we could say that Won-deok is beginning to come around after stewing in his own juices. ;-)
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kiara
September 27, 2018 at 8:58 AM
Haha beat it and spice it up. I don't care.
I'm having a blast just throwing different things in this sageuk pot to see what it taste like in the end.
whoopeeyoo
September 26, 2018 at 11:03 PM
You pick up so much details and thank you so much for sharing them! I admit I just end up a giggling mess with the rom-com bits and I'm not exactly knowledgeable in a lot of stuff, maybe because I can't catch context clues too having to rely on subs.
Thank you, @kiara!
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kiara
September 27, 2018 at 9:05 AM
@whoopeeyoo
I probably have a weird sense of humor.
I didn't find the reference to "50 Shades of Grey" etc funny but watching Yul go at with the high and mighty nobles pretty was fun!
Thank you for clearing some misunderstanding for me :).
Half the fun of watching dramas is reading everyone's take on it.
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Kafiyah Bello
September 26, 2018 at 11:50 AM
I forgot about the face blindness, when he said that I said "oh kdrama," lol, its so random.
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PakalanaPikake
September 26, 2018 at 7:48 PM
Face blindness seems to have become a trendy condition. There's at least a third show I've seen within the past year or so in which it cropped up.
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PakalanaPikake
October 1, 2018 at 10:17 PM
Face blindness just popped up the new drama version of THE BEAUTY INSIDE. Leading man Lee Min-ki's character has it.
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Kafiyah Bello
October 2, 2018 at 4:51 AM
Oh haha, how convenient, haven't seen the first episode yet, but that'll explain why he recognizes her. Ha, oh kdramas.
nemo
September 26, 2018 at 4:35 PM
Moo Yeon can't catch a break? The guy kills innocent people to order and hes the unlucky one? he forced the fletcher to catch a break literally by walking him off the cliff without any remorse or hesitation just that creepy cold 'thank you for your work' . its his victims i feel sorry for.
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PakalanaPikake
September 26, 2018 at 7:28 PM
@nemo,
Don't get me wrong. I do feel sorry for the victims, and am disgusted with Minister of the Left Kim and his ilk, who are the true evildoers. They victimize everyone who crosses their paths -- and many innocent parties who do not even know who they are. They force others to do their dirty work -- although Minister Kim seems to relish killing when he gets the opportunity. To Minister Kim & Co., the fletcher is just one more loose end to be dealt with, one more witness to be permanently silenced. He was doomed the very second he had anything to do with Kim. And the poor slob had no say in the matter.
I've seen so many sageuks in which powerless people of humble station are forced and manipulated into horrible roles that I don't automatically hate assassins, at least until I find out how they got into that line of work. It is purely a matter of kill or be killed. We haven't seen how Moo-yeon ended up working for Minister of the Left Kim, but I have my suspicions. I don't think he voluntarily became an assassin. If he's who I think he is, Moo-yeon has been doomed to a truly horrible fate through the treachery of others.
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
September 26, 2018 at 7:56 PM
I stopped thinking about some characters and their motivations. Moo Yeon is one of them.
I reiterate what I said last week - the writing is weak. This makes it difficult for viewers to like, let alone love or empathize with the characters.
Moo Yeon cuts a handsome figure in black is the best thing I can say of him right now. Other than that, I figured is that he is out for revenge and lives his life everyday with his head on the chopping block so as to achieve his goal. Does he need to be thoroughly ruthless or not show a flicker of remorse to the viewers as he kills along the way? Maybe or maybe not.
What I do know is that this character does nothing for me. I don't care if he achieves his goal, reunites with Hong Shim or whatever. This is sad because it could have been a good subplot. I have seen other shows do this well.
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bong-soo
September 26, 2018 at 8:51 PM
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bong-soo
September 26, 2018 at 9:13 PM
The first drama I saw Kim Seon-ho in was STRONGEST DELIVERYMAN where he played (second lead) chaebol son Jin-kyu. He and actress Ko Won-hee who played (second lead) chaebol daughter Ji-yoon together almost stole the show they were so good (and funny) together.
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whoopeeyoo
September 26, 2018 at 10:45 PM
They actually stole the show for me. I cared more about them than the main couple. Oops~ Hee.
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2018 at 1:43 AM
@marcusnyc20 Bong-soo, @whoopeeyoo,
Thanks for the heads-up, folks. I haven't seen STRONGEST DELIVERYMAN, but am glad to learn of another great performance by my favorite disembodied spirit. He had such great mannerisms in TWO COPS -- which Jo Jung-seok mimic'd to perfection. I love it when second leads and minor characters steal the show. ;-)
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bong-soo
September 27, 2018 at 7:26 AM
KSH is one of those actors possessing that natural charm which is hard to define/describe. They just have it. (Yoon Shi-yoon I am sure you would agree also has it.)
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PakalanaPikake
September 27, 2018 at 10:33 AM
Amen to Da Bong, marcusnyc20 Bong-soo! Not to mention Shin Dong-wook, Namgung Min, and Lee Sang-woo off the top of my head. And Oh Man-seok. ;-)
25 TAS-Mania
September 26, 2018 at 11:41 AM
I'm kinda surprised that this drama is from the same screenwriter (Noh Ji Sul) as My Lovely Girl especially given how horribly bad that drama was. But then again her dramas Dr Champ, Scent of a Woman and Can We Love? were fairly good.
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whoopeeyoo
September 26, 2018 at 10:44 PM
This has been my main source of fear too with this drama even before it started. The writer. That is why even if I was super excited with the cast, I really kept zero expectations because I feel like somewhere down the line something will go wrong BUT I really hope it doesn't!
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26 oosiee
September 26, 2018 at 6:20 PM
Aah Kyungsoo ya~ you're killing me with those "RichWhite" eyes and fluttering Smugs 😊😊 Can't wait for the romance to be in full blossom! 🌸🌸
P.S. Looks like Lollypip made a slight error up there! Je-yoon finds out about crown prince's "death" through Ae-wol (which IS mentioned) but even before that, it says that he finds out about it when he's investigating for that arrow maker's death! 😁 Just wanted to mention that!!
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27 Nico Ishk
September 26, 2018 at 7:13 PM
I didn't really care for this episode for 1 reason: it's not enough we have one person with Amnesia, not we have another one that can't recognize faces. You can smell the setup a mile away, they will meet and none of the two will recognize the other, they will be friends.... I hope I am wrong because I was expecting a lot more from this show :(
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PakalanaPikake
September 26, 2018 at 7:56 PM
They'll be able to recognize each other's voices, or at least Je-yoon will recoynize Yul's. That's one of the tricks face-blind people use (along with scent cues such as perfume), if that arc in THE UNDATEABLES is to be believed.
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Nico Ishk
September 26, 2018 at 8:24 PM
You are right, they will be able to recognise each other, but I don't want to waste valuable time with this obvious line and then they'll end-up rushing the revenge or the story of the brother and how he ended up where he is.
I hope I am wrong about this, because I want the revenge to be smart, and slow and painful.
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28 annabeth
December 28, 2018 at 4:33 AM
anyone see that plain mannequin when the king pulled back the white sheet? lol
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29 zk
July 18, 2023 at 6:31 PM
i'm sure i'm not the first person to say this, but how funny is it that nam ji-hyun had another role playing opposite a privileged amnesiac (shopaholic louis) - and both actors in those dramas being singers. enjoying this show quite a bit so far.
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zk
July 18, 2023 at 10:20 PM
also, thought 도경수 kinda was idol-ish when he was citing the poem back to park.
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