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Pretty Noona Who Buys Me Food: Episodes 11-12

It’s all about boundaries today, and what happens when they’re overstepped. Whether it’s between lovers or friends, siblings or parents, colleagues or seniors, lines are crossed and crossed again.

Jin-ah makes some big decisions about work and love, and it’s hard to tell whether they’re the right ones. But whichever it is, there’s no denying that there’s more than one storm brewing for our couple, and you know, I can’t help wondering if Jin-ah isn’t sometimes her own worst enemy.

 
EPISODES 11-12

Joon-hee comes out to see Mom and doesn’t let her in while Jin-ah’s there. After he sends Jin-ah away with an excuse, he lets her inside. She finally drops her mask and tells him that it’s true, he’s no worthy match in her eyes.

Jin-ah senses something off when she can’t contact Joon-hee, and comes right back. She’s shocked and furious to find her mom there, and the women fight. Joon-hee shields Jin-ah from Mom’s blows, and the women return home in angry silence.

Jin-ah gets called to the CEO’s office and she explains to him that she’s trying to figure out how to go forward regarding the harassment, especially after playing along with it for so long.

The other female staff discuss their situation of being caught between a rock and a hard place—if they don’t speak up, the harassment continues, but if they do and it backfires, they risk losing their jobs, and worse, being tarred as troublemakers their entire professional careers.

VP Jung finally receives some real evidence from Manager Choi’s investigations: distressing video footage of Manager Gong molesting Jin-ah in several situations. Ugh, it’s horrible.

Joon-hee’s company is still trying to make him go abroad again to China, though he continues to refuse. When he and Jin-ah meet later, the air is awkward at first, but it’s not long before they talk it out and fall into their usual teasing rhythm. Aw. (Joon-hee: “You’re so pretty, I could die.” Jin-ah: “No dying without my permission!”)

Seung-ho tells Joon-hee that the secret to getting his mom’s approval is to let her think you’re hopeless so she feels needed, because being needed is what makes her happy. He passes on the advice that Jin-ah should try it too, but Joon-hee grins that he doesn’t know his sister very well. Haha.

They meet up with the girls, who immediately make a fuss over Joon-hee, Kyung-sun claiming her brother while Jin-ah claims her boyfriend. Kyung-sun has a heart-to-heart with Seung-ho and asks him to look out for Jin-ah. She confides to him that no matter what happens to the couple in the long run, she’s determined not to lose her friend, and nor should he lose his.

VP Jung drops off the video files to Jin-ah the next day, leaving the decision of whether or not to use them up to her. After contemplating it, Jin-ah writes up a detailed report that night describing what she’s experienced over the last ten years.

Mom tries to send Jin-ah on a blind date, ignoring her prior plans. Dad erupts, saying that he’s the head of the household, and nobody is to be forced to do anything against their will. He even tells Jin-ah to speak up properly and refuse to do things she doesn’t want to.

Still, Jin-ah ends up rearranging her plans with Joon-hee, and tells him she has to run an errand. Agghhhh just tell him the truth!

Meanwhile, Kyung-sun hears from her dad, who’s arrived in Korea and wants to meet. Oh nooo, it’s at the same hotel as Jin-ah’s blind date! Of course, the women bump into each other immediately. Jin-ah spills the beans about her seon and Kyung-sun loses it and tells her to end it with Joon-hee, because they’re done with her.

Jin-ah pleads with her to understand—she’s just doing it to placate her mom—but Kyung-sun won’t stand for it. Jin-ah tries to call Joon-hee before her meeting, but can’t get through.

Most awkward of all is that Jin-ah conducts her blind date just tables away from Kyung-sun’s tense and emotional interview with her father (Kim Chang-wan).

Her dad is a real piece of work. He makes no apology for his absenteeism and has no intention of being any different, but at the same time, acts like he’s entitled to her confidence.

Kyung-sun tells him that she called him in a moment of weakness, and blames him for making them grow up too fast, especially Joon-hee. Dad doesn’t give a damn about her grievances but seems mildly curious to see his son.

When Kyung-sun leaves, Jin-ah’s date follows her out to ask who she is. (Kyung-sun: “Her ex-sister-in-law!”) Kyung-sun’s dad, who remembers Jin-ah, comes over to talk. Just as they’re parting, she runs back to give him her number, telling him he can call her anytime he wants to know anything about the siblings. Noooo Jin-ah, wtf are you doing?!

Kyung-sun tells Joon-hee about the blind date, and it upsets him that she outed Ji-nah to him. Kyung-sun is more distraught over how Jin-ah’s family is mistreating him—knowledge he wanted to spare her. They both end up in tears and Joon-hee hugs his sister.

Jin-ah doesn’t make it home and Mom’s furious when she hears that the date didn’t go well. She tries to hunt Jin-ah down immediately, assuming she’s with Joon-hee.

At the end of his tether, Seung-ho intervenes and warns Mom not to drive Jin-ah to something worse, like jumping off a bridge, as he himself had contemplated doing several times since he was a kid. Oh, Seung-ho. He also calls her out on her abuse towards Jin-ah. God bless you, my sweet baby Seung-ho.

Joon-hee finds Jin-ah huddled on his doorstep that night. Once she’s inside and warmed up, she says pathetically that she didn’t call because she was afraid he wouldn’t answer.

She explains that she thought if she went along with the date just once, Mom would leave her alone, but the moment she saw Kyung-sun’s face, she realized it was a mistake. Joon-hee laughs and they grow playful again, so all’s well that ends well.

Jin-ah finally returns to work at headquarters the next day, after sending her testimony to VP Jung. Discussing it with the CEO, VP Jung fears that Jin-ah will become the victim of a backlash and have her testimony turned on her.

Se-young secretly reports to Director Nam that Manager Gong is trying to pin all the blame on him. Manager Gong crows to Manager Choi (still undercover) that they’re off scot-free once they send Nam off. Oh you are both going down, man.

Bo-ra overhears some Chinese visitors talking about Joon-hee going to China. Jin-ah asks him about it on the rooftop and he tells her that he’s already turned it down. She then gets an unexpected call from Joon-hee’s dad and goes to meet him after feeding Joon-hee yet another lie.

Dad’s come to meet her in their office building and she hurries him out. But not before Joon-hee sees them together. Eyes blazing, he yells at her to come back.

 
COMMENTS

I find it so troubling how Jin-ah essentially does what she wants without regard to whether it’s okay with the other person. There are times when it doesn’t have serious consequences, but her decisions are increasingly haphazard and come at greater cost to Joon-hee and Kyung-sun above all, and that’s just not okay.

Jin-ah is the most privileged one in the trio of their relationship as it currently stands, so anything else she does to further take advantage of them feels like a lack of respect, consideration and judgement. I winced so hard when she said to Kyung-sun that it’s like she and her brother were born for her. I guess I’m taking it harder because I expect (or maybe just want) her to be better than this.

One of Jin-ah’s virtues is in admitting her mistakes quickly, but that’s a virtue that is only as good as her ability to learn from them. Because most problematic of all is that she doesn’t. I’ve lost count of how many times she’s lied to Joon-hee about big things—something that has never ended well for her and she’s regretted every single time, yet keeps on doing. Live up to your hoodie, Jin-ah! Never go backwards!

She curates the truth to Joon-hee in a way that takes away his agency at the same time as spare her from answering to him. It doesn’t matter if she means well, it still has the effect of infantilizing him. I find myself yelling at Jin-ah to just tell him the damn truth—her honesty won’t threaten their relationship, but her deception and inability to know when it’s not her business certainly will. He’s capable of dealing with his own emotions and she needs to just trust him.

The frustrating part is that I’m sure she actually does, but she can’t seem to overcome her poor judgement in the moment. It’s ironic that for all that Mom is trying to tear them apart, they’re much more likely to have a rift over her going behind Joon-hee’s back to meet his dad. Which, just… it’s so officious of her to think she understands the siblings’ relationship with him, or to think she can somehow magically make peace. That fundamentally misunderstands what’s broken in their relationship in the first place, and it oversteps whatever right she has either as friend or girlfriend. She just has no business getting in the middle there.

On the topic of parents, I’m honestly surprised at the attrition rate on this show of people driven away by Jin-ah’s mom. I find her quite a brilliantly realized version of the stay-at-home matriarch archetype. The show in its limited scope tends to show Mom at her worst, but I don’t doubt that there’s a side of her that is as caring as it is judging. She’s above all a dutiful woman: She performs the duties expected of her by society, by her husband, by her parents. By her measure, she’s rightfully earned her place, and with it, the obedience of her children.

It’s not, of course, a just belief, but it’s very true to life where such systems exist. Without defending her actions, she deserves defending as a character since she provides realistic conflict to the couple’s relationship. The stages of their relationship have been quite clear-cut; the relationship-forming stage between the pair was the first, and a vital precursor preparing them for the opposition they faced in the second stage, once they went public.

We’re now about to enter the third stage of their relationship and see how they fare when they must confront each other’s flaws, especially in the face of harsh realities. I feel particular foreboding over Seung-ho’s warning to his sister not to take Joon-hee’s affections lightly (because his good opinion once lost, is lost forever).

I’m so proud of the Yoon men this episode, and Dad and Seung-ho prove that Mom’s reign of callous desperation doesn’t go unchecked. Dad’s Mr. Bennet moment—when he contradicts Mom and forbids Jin-ah from going to the seon—was absolutely priceless, and I could almost hear the echo of Benjamin Whitrow telling Lizzy that from this day, she must be a stranger to one of her parents.

Seung-ho’s outburst, on the other hand, was just sad, because although he glossed over it, he basically told his mom that he’s been suicidal more than once. His warning takes on a painful gravity when you realize he’s begging for Jin-ah’s actual mortal existence, not her love life. Mom’s been so busy centering herself as the victim; I hope she’s finally going to snap out of it once she realizes her actions could end in such terrible consequences. I don’t expect her to approve, but as Seung-ho points out, the abuse has got to stop.

That seems like some grim foreshadowing about what is going to happen to Jin-ah when her harassment testimony is revealed. I admit that sometimes I’ve found Jin-ah and her get-along instinct hardest to understand, but despite how much I’ve just criticized her, she’s certainly a force to admire, because here she is, once again taking one for the team by being the person to speak up where no one else will. What burden will this woman not take on? And more importantly, how much will she suffer because of it? For the first time, I’m actually a little afraid for her.

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I’ve been having problems watching the last few episodes because moms actions are just so negative, and hard to take after so many episodes of happy romance. Plus the Chinese translations confuse me. The characters always seem to be not quite saying how they feel, everything just a bit hidden. Like the scene between JH and his sister. So thanks doe the weecap!

Watching how mom essentially bulldoze over JA, where her needs and wants are irrelevant, I start to wonder if this contributed to her “try to get along and not cause trouble, take one for the team” approach to work life. She’s a product of her upbringing and her character growth is learning to speak up for herself, both in work and in her personal life.

I’m puzzled as to what JHs character growth is. If this were a historical romance novel, you have the strong woman who somehow still manages to get in trouble and the guy comes in to support or save her. In the meantime, the guy will have some sort of emotional issue that she would help him overcome. Is that the deal here? Lol

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Mom at home is like Jin-ah's bosses at work. They just don't think they did anything wrong. They are so close minded, hiding behind that grey area of the culture and abusing their authorities.

I hope the show will offer some kind of (resolution?). Where to draw the line with helicopter parents and with multiple bosses at work.

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I hadn't connected the two until you mentioned it. But now that you have - of course! If this were an American show Jin-ah would be some kind of 'free spirit' rebellious type. Here, she's struggling merely to achieve a normal non-dramatic contented life for herself.

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Thank you for the recap and analysis. I in particular enjoyed your comparison to Mr. Bennet and Pride and Prejudice in general. There really are interesting similarities that make me think about this drama in the new light. Thank you for that.

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And "good opinion once lost, is lost forever" is a quote from Pride and Prejudice, isn't it? Niiice.

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The OTT nasty mom is killing all of the fun of this drama. Please writer/director put us out of our misery and end to the nasty mom storyline (and give dad some backbone while you're at it).

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K-drama's are not exactly known for remaining happy all the way through. Remember 'I'm not a robot'? A light fantasy comedy that abruptly turned into emotional torture porn.

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Thank you for your insights. I love this drama despite the mother (enough said) and the music (also enough said). It is about the little moments wonderfully acted out by our OTP. I agree with the reviewer, the part between JH and his sis (where he hugged her) was wonderfully played out. I also loved that her brother stood up for her against their mum. And that part with the green umbrella - I love the way they resolve their fights. Very very well done. PD Nim - I love you!

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Saya, thanks for the recap. The International Noble Idiots Assosciation is now accepting applications. Jin-ah qualifies for a Triple Platinum Membership. There may be hope for her yet though. Going on a blind date ? 🙄

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lol

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Everyone says this but i understand her completely. She wasn't going to go until her Dad yelled at her Mum. From her perspective, her intransigence is now interfering with her parents' marriage. If she goes, she placates her mother enough to calm her down.

Everything jin-A does is in the context of a culture that says that women have to be peacemakers, they have to compromise, they can't say no even if they're uncomfortable and they have to maintain a relationship with their parents. Which is the show's entire point - that we force women to be complicit in their mistreatment. It's the same issue being played out in her workplace.

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I hate the mother, I hate the music, I an also upset with Jin ah, that she is so clueless about her actions, and the only one who keeps me tuned is joon hee, because well... you all know I am in love with Jung Hae in.
But really... this show is disappointing and I feel so sorry, how excited I was... And now I am just upset. The bad translations don't justify what I am still watching on-screen.

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All of this!!!

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And i suffer 😑😑😑

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@javinne,

Honestly, I stopped watching this show after episode 4. I don’t know what it was about it because everyone seemed so excited about it when it first aired, and I even binge-watched to catch up....but it just fell flat for me.

Now I’m just reading @saya’s aweosme recaps because this means I get to find out what happens without the torture of watching the Show.

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There are some beautiful scenes though. When Joon hee and Jin ah are together is magic, even the way he forgives her every time she is stupid, it feels very real. I know there are people like that, and they can improve.
On the other hand, Jin ah has had self steem issues since ever; it is understanding that she will still be stupid for a while.
Maybe the ultimate message of this show is that when you are in a healthy relationship, you finally can be fair to yourselves and be functional... 🙄🙄🙄
Anyway, there are some pretty nice scenes in this show. I still want to watch till the end.

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"I find it so troubling how Jin-ah essentially does what she wants without regard to whether it’s okay with the other person.

Bless you @saya... I thought I was the only one to think this.

I find this particular occasion of Jin-ah meddling with Joon-hee's relationship with his father DEEPLY ironic, because how is that really different from what her mother is doing to them?
Perhaps her mother's way of handling things has had an impact on her more than she thinks.

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Jin ah......how many times do the siblings have to say stay away from there dad, but she keeps doing it!!!. At this point JH needs to walk away. She f up way to many with the lies and deceit. It's like she can't comprehend there feelings in this... She gets that from her mother. And wth is up with the music??

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What I felt these two episodes. Rage. Pure rage. I was beyond disappointed in the writing for Jin-Ah. They made her selfish and stupid. It is so frustrating that in order to make the male lead even more Ah-mazing they have destroy the female lead, which for me they did. Utterly disappointing, I am very sad about this. It has taken me out of this drama. I'm going to finish the drama because it's almost the end, but I'm genuinely sad about this particular turn.

Funny Points: Both Jin-Ah and her dad were very petty to the mother and I laughed. When Jin-Ah told her mother it was precisely what she imagined was happing between the two of them, that was happening. Also when her dad took the fruit from his wife. That is all.

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Rage is exactly the right way to describe my emotions watching this ep. I was thoroughly enjoying the show thus far, but eps 8-12 I found myself yelling at Jin-Ah through my screen for being so f******* stupid. My initial enthusiasm about this show has fizzled out completely.

Jin-Ah has become such a frustrating, stupid character - I don't even know whether the writer intended to write this way. Sadly, I'm with Saya on Jin-Ah being a force to admire for the way she tries to "get-along with everyone", to her own detriment. It's just such self-destructive behaviour that I don't understand at all.

Here's hoping she somehow manages to redeem herself by drama's end.

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But jin-ah is neither selfish or stupid. That's the problem. If she was selfish, she'd have left home and disowned her mother and told her supervisors to stick it.

The point of the show is that women are forced to be compromising peacemakers but in doing so they just make themselves and others miserable. You can't compromise your way through harassment or an abusive parent. In that, the writing is excellent even if the music still makes me want to stab somebody.

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I agree generally she is neither selfish, nor stupid, except in this instance. It's one thing if she had gone to the date with the express purpose of telling the man she was in a relationship, but she didn't do that. She went on the date and made both him and her incredibly uncomfortable. It was stupid. The selfish part comes from not telling Joon Hee. She should have told him, hey, I'm going on this date to tell this guy I have a boyfriend. If I were Kyung Sun, I would have been pissed too. Generally I like the writing for Jinah, just not in this instance.

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Thx Saya! I find the past few eps story a bit draggy, like things are taking longer than they should to resolve. And the mom's actions are just a bit over the top (very Mrs Bennet!). I guess it's really hard to strike a good balance between realism and drama for drama's sake? For me Seung ho's outburst was realistic, but Mom's continued dramatic antics feels too deliberate.
I'm glad they cast the actor who plays the sibling's dad, he portrayed the role really well. While he's an inexcusably irresponsible and absent dad, his unconventional life/views brings a fresh contrast to Jin ah's family.

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Kim Chang-Wan plays the father. I didn’t know this, but he had a successful rock band in his youth. He’s recorded an album with IU. There are several videos of them. The stuff we learn. He should incorporate some of that talent in one of his roles.

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Who can forget the OST song 'Youth' from Reply 1988 - Kim Chang-wan sang the second part.

I watched Pretty noona up to ep 14 and oddly I like second part of this show better than the first part, where this couple has conflicts/problems - And for mom -terrible but I felt realistic (I heard about more terrible moms for real).

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I just watched the ‘Youth’ video, well done! The R88 gang brings back pleasant memories .

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Kim Chang-wan is always good. I'm glad he played father Seo here. He is also one of PD Ahn's regular.

Episode 14 was great. I'm trusting the PD for a meaningful ending.

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I am absolutely furious at Jin-ah's actions in the recent episodes. I won't go into details, but she keeps victimizing herself and making things all about her. I tried to understand her actions, but I just couldn't.

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I liked the Mr.Bennet reference. To be honest JA reminds me a bit of Elizabeth... When she thinks to have figured ihr Darcy and just bulldozes over his feelings. I think the very traditional family that is portrait is difficult for us to understand. And I think JA does not realise that she should be open and honest probably because her past relationships never taught her this. Hope it will end well.

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I like the honest portrayal of the more traditional family. It is difficult for us to understand. Such a different mindset.

This would've been a great sageuk lol.

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Her entire life, she's had to soothe the waters at home and do what she wants to do quietly. It's a ingrained habit she's never broken. She's now doing exactly the same thing with her love life - in fact, I suspect she always did this with her love life and that's why her relationships never worked out. Her abusive douche ex (who I'm realising resembles her mother) didn't really know her at all in the same way her mother doesn't know her.

To her, maintaining familial relationships is the most important thing so she's trying to quietly keep those lines of communication open between JH and his father on the assumption that one day he'll definitely want that relationship. Because maintaining those relationships has been her driving motivation.

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I think the way the revealed the mother character has been very interesting. We knew what kind of person she is from the start, they even showed how SH and Dad feel about this side of her. It was thoroughly foreshadowed. In that way, her behavior has never been a surprise. It's been a matter of anticipation and release.
Also interesting is how you put together the mother's behavior during these episodes, to the meek behavior to Jin-A as a person. Her relationship with her mother definitely contributed to her approach to life. That's been a consistent part of the story from the beginning, but it only feels like it's really sunk in just now.
For Joon-Hui, I think his character was handled in a very different way than is usual. He doesn't have very much character development. It seems that the development to his personality happened BEFORE the events of the show, as if to express that his part in the story isn't personality/belief development, but how his change in character affects his relationship with the other characters and how he deals with these emotional changes. Primarily in the form of his developing relationship with Jin-A. With this, he felt like an established character from the very beginning.
Overall, the character I am most surprised about is brother SH. His entry to the story felt minimal. Like it was an aside, "oh yeah there's the brother!". But as story with Jin-a's ex developed he came to prevalence, and with Jin-a and Joon-Hui's relationship being slowly revealed he's been much more important than I would have initially guessed.
Anyway, we're in the final stretch; I'm interested to see how they'll close it out, and I'm glad to say I haven't felt the annoyance at the mother. Rather, she hasn't spoiled my enjoyment of the show. As I've enjoyed sinking my teeth into their relationship too much to feel the annoyance.

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In the same way that Joonhee couldn't turn away Jinah's mother and had to show her respect even when she barged in on him at his place, Jinah couldn't refuse Joonhee's father when he asked to see her. You just don't turn down or turn away an elder in general, and definitely not a parent of your friend or romantic partner. Jinah also knew Joonhee and Kyungsun's father from when they were younger.

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Exactly. When I read some comments about this, I had thought that Jin-ah contacted him so I was surprised when I saw him approach her. She was socially obligated to talk to him. Then when he showed genuine interest, she felt she was obligated to keep those lines of communication open.

I find it interesting that she's motivated by traditional obligation towards a man that has none - not even to his own children.

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I felt like Kyung Sun starting at the end of episode 11. I've been rooting for this couple for 11 episodes, they are so cute when they are together. But she drives me crazy that she just does as she pleases and lies to him and never listens to him when he is giving her sound advice. But I still rooted for them. Until she went on the blind date after lieing to him about it. And he forgave her way too easily. I don't think they should be together anymore, he needs to find someone that actually appreciates and listens to him.

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I think she knows what she is doing because she has known them all for over 20+ yrs.
Maybe episode 14 will help you understand why she did it.

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Thanks for the recap @saya - I'm one of those driven away by the Mother, and I loved your character analysis of her. It does help me see her in a more balanced light.

Since I'm not watching the show post ep 10.5, I'll comment based on the recap:

This struck me particularly strongly, "Seung-ho’s outburst, on the other hand, was just sad, because although he glossed over it, he basically told his mom that he’s been suicidal more than once."

I've been curious about Seung-ho from ep 1. He's in his early 30s, isn't working but still studying for exams, plays video games all night, has no friends other than Joon Hee - he seemed not only like a lonely, introverted character but also a bit of a shut in. Operating within the limited radius of the four or five people in his life. Or perhaps not fully fleshed out.

But I see he was indeed fully fleshed out. To me, the writer has given Seung-ho his own story. A drama within a drama - demons he fights himself. Hwaiting, Seung-ho!

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It would have been nice to see a bit more of that particular drama within the drama you mention.
Unfortunately, all these characters feel extremely bidimentional:
mother the Histeric, father the Wishy-washy, daddy the Absent, hero the Blinded by love, heroine the eternal victim, brother the Fed Up and sister the Proud (rightly so).
Really, they all seem to have no past, no scope outside their repective theatrical roles, frozen as they are in this dramatic bubble that is "it's hard to be a woman".
With only 4 episodes to go, I doubt they are going to give us a little more insight into these people, little brother included.
*sigh*

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I wonder if the story would have improved if Jin-ah and Joon-hee got married, say, in Ep.4 ? There is still room for Mom’s hysterics. At the rate the story is currently headed, is marriage even a goal? They could elope to China or the US, but not via the Time Leap trope please.

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LOL!
Rooftop Prince meets Pretty Noona.
I suppose the mother would manage to jump in time with them, you know, chaperon and all that. :P

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Thanks for the recap. I am just catching up on episodes 11 & 12 and they were difficult to watch. Longer comment this time to express my frustration.

The Yoon women were disappointing in these 2 episodes.
Jin-Ah's mother have worked hard all her life to bring up her children and credits to her for that. However, her nasty propensity for violence was very hard to watch. Who was she to physically abuse someone else's children, and for that matter hitting Jin-Ah as well. She disguised her prejuices under the pretence of looking out for her children's welfare, but it's to satisfy her own wants. Imagine her thinking Je-Ah's sleaze bag ex as still being suitable! I have the utmost respect for mothers (as I loved my own mother dearly) but I am disgusted by behaviours of the Yoon mum, and her justifications just made it worse.
As for Jin-Ah, the blind date was already bad, but like @Saya, I feel that she should have considered the feelings of Joon-hee and Kyung-sun re their father. That was so disrespectful and I was all out of patience with her by that point.
It may be a bit harsh but sometimes when Jin-Ah apologises, I feel it is to fill in the slience rather than genuine desire to say sorry. It felt at times like an easy out after making a mistake. She should make her apologies count, and not to repeat the mistakes. Otherwise saying sorry is meaningless.
Seung-ho's outburst was satisfying to watch but also very said. I don't think the mom really listened though.

The Seo dad was hard to understand. He showed more affection and interest to Jin-Ah than to his own daughter. Poor Kyung-sun, all the rejections and prejuices she had had to endure. She should just stopped caring about those things and live a happy life, she deserves one.
Lastly Joon-See had shown more maturity than Jin-Ah in these two episodes. The scene when he stopped her mom trying to force her way in was admirable, trying to be respective but not yielding. I can't get over how considerate he was of Jin-Ah.

Please Show, make episodes 13 & 14 better, for us who care about the characters. Thank you in anticipation.

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Typo, respectful

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I want to kill her mother. Like, literally reach through the screen and strangle her. She's not even pretending to be reasonable anymore.

This is where I find the cultural aspects of Korean shows so hard. I keep thinking, "just leave, move in with Joon-hee and tell your mother to go jump".

I get why they don't but it doesn't make it less frustrating.

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I hated Jin Ah's mom with a passion for being so close-minded! Are her views (and actions) typical Korean?
And then there's Jin Ah's missteps! OMG! She is so lucky Joon Hee hasn't hightailed it. JH definitely is the mature and wise one in their relationship.
And the (white) lies between the 2 are just killing me!
Good thing there are so many of the sweet moments between these two to keep me watching.

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Jin-ah's problem is she's a bit of a 'bimbo'. Hear me out. By that I mean she's had low self-esteem, she's been docile with bad judgement in men, historically. Her male colleagues took advantage of her and her female colleagues despised her for it, calling her insulting names behind her back. She's notorious for making bad decisions with the best of intentions. Son Ye-jin is playing Jin-ah as more intelligent than she's being written, and the conflicting depictions sometimes clash. Going on that blind date from hell then secretly meeting with her boyfriend's estranged dad were straight-up stupid moves - though of course done with the best of intentions.

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K-dramas are famous for including sweaters and jackets with 'meaningful' wording on them in English. I've spotted this a dozen times or more. Sometimes they can be quite funny it you catch a glimpse of them. JA wearing a bright red sweatsuit with the words "Never Going Backwards" is typical.

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Why am I not liking Jin-ah more and more the longer this story goes. She's a grown ass woman who does NOT have a back bone. I get the whole she still respects her mom and wants to pacify her but seriously??? She just decides just coz she feels like doing something without any regard if it's going to hurt other people. I am seriously thinking of dropping this coz of her.

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