Girl Who Sees Smells: Episode 7
by LollyPip
The deeper we get into the psyche of our killer, the more things make sense — which is exactly as creepy as it sounds. We learn a few things about what make him tick, and a few things that reveal exactly how cold and calculating he can be. But there’s plenty of cute in this episode too, as Mu-gak and Cho-rim’s growing attraction starts to become too big for them to ignore.
EPISODE 7 RECAP
As Mu-gak explains the meaning of the barcodes carved into the killer’s victims, the other detectives make a chilling realization — if the ISBN numbers are chronological, then the first known murder from five years ago is not the first victim of the Barcode Killer.
Lieutenant Yeom does a little on-the-fly profiling, describing the killer as educated, self-disciplined, neat, and physically strong. We see Chef Jae-hee engage in a strenuous exercise program, revealing an incredibly strong physique which explains how a relatively average-sized man dominates his victims so easily.
Later, Jae-hee leaves Baek-kyung (or… his body? Please no) in a car in his underground parking garage, then saunters upstairs to arrange to test a company’s cookware as if there’s not a victim right under their feet. As the men move out his own equipment, Jae-hee deftly knocks a crystal decanter onto the floor and shatters, it, and lets the men take the blame for the breakage. He asks them to leave, saying he’ll have his own people take care of the equipment later.
The detectives determine which company uses the particular set of barcodes that the Barcode Killer uses, a publishing house which has been out of business for fifteen years. They don’t immediately see a connection, but Yeom asks the men to search for the owner of the company.
Mu-gak points out that the one thing that was different in Ma-ri’s case, was that she was left in her car when no other victims were left without any other evidence. The car could help them figure out the killer’s movements before he left her body to be found.
After the briefing the team wants to go for barbeque, but Mu-gak has plans. He heads to the Frog Troupe’s theater where a performance is in progress, but Cho-rim is nowhere to be seen. She’s behind the set, literally holding it up as the troupe members bang it and hang off it, until she cuts herself on a nail and she and the set piece fall onto the stage.
The troupe members don’t move a muscle to help her, and Cho-rim runs off stage in tears. Mu-gak follows, witnessing one of her sunbaes verbally accusing Cho-rim of ruining the show on purpose since she can’t go onstage. With tears running down her face, Cho-rim bravely retorts that she’s not jealous, nor will she find another job — she’ll just do her best and try to get onstage next time.
Mu-gak starts to follow her, but the director finds him first, asking why he’s here since Cho-rim said he can’t do skits anymore. It’s news to Mu-gak, especially when Woo-ya sneers that he was Cho-rim’s only chance to get onstage. He remembers now, how Cho-rim deflected every time he asked about practicing together.
Mu-gak trails Cho-rim in his car as she walks towards home sniffling, and he calls her and tells her to pick a number — one or two? She chooses one, which he says is spicy pork hocks, and her face when she realizes he’s right behind her is priceless.
As they eat, Cho-rim blames her copious tears on the spicy food. Mu-gak is so sweet that he doesn’t even say anything when his car is towed… not wanting to interrupt his time with her, perhaps? Cho-rim asks why Mu-gak craves spicy food when he can’t taste it, and he compares it to window shopping when you can’t buy. That actually makes a lot of sense.
Awww, when they find Mu-gak’s car gone, he even pretends to be surprised and is all, “Oh no, whatever shall we do? Guess we have to walk home together.” He’s getting more transparent, this one.
I love these two for their way of putting issues right out in the open, and Mu-gak stays true to form when he asks Cho-rim why she lied to her boss that he couldn’t do the skits anymore. Cho-rim explains that it was because he’s so busy, and that he seems to be in some emotional pain that would make it hard to make people laugh.
Mu-gak stops and looks Cho-rim right in the eye: “Do a skit with me. And do investigations with me, too.” How is that so swoony? But Cho-rim does swoon, and Mu-gak elaborates that just as she said, he can protect her when they’re together. He even promises never to put her in danger. But, he clarifies in a very serious tone, the skit has to be really funny. HAHA. Cho-rim gets the cutest attack of the nervous hiccups ever, and quickly heads off home on her own.
Jae-hee drives to the restaurant to arrange things to look as though someone is in the middle of cooking. He hails a cab home, leaving his own car there. We see him at his home later, dressed all in black, driving Baek-kyung’s car — and what I’m pretty sure by now is Baek-kyung’s dead body — into a trailer.
He drives the trailer out to the country, backs Baek-kyung’s car out onto the road, and douses him with alcohol. Strangely, we see Jae-hee thinking about a time earlier in the day (based on the shirt he was wearing) when he’d been cooking at home and watching a video of Baek-kyung. He’d been in the same white room where we saw Ma-ri imprisoned, robotically repeating over and over, “A golden fish must meet a lonely man. A golden fish must meet a lonely man.” What the hell?
Jae-hee gives Baek-kyung one last long look, then then calls a driver to take his own car home from the restaurant. Right on cue, his sous chef sees the car leaving the garage and assumes it’s his chef. Damn, he’s good. The sous chef calls to ask where he’s going, and Jae-hee explains that he went to get a special spice and asks him to take over the food he was in the middle of prepping.
The driver brings Jae-hee’s car to a rest stop, where he’s waiting in the trailer. After the driver leaves, Jae-hee disposes of the phone he used to make all these calls, and gets in his own car and drives back to the restaurant, where his sous chef thinks they’re just creating a secret new dish. If this plan weren’t so evil, I’d be impressed with Jae-hee’s attention to detail.
Cho-rim shows up for work the next day at the restaurant, but when she says hello to Jae-hee, he looks at her without recognition. We see her through his eyes, and her facial features swim and shift until she speaks, and then she snaps into focus. Oooohhh. Does he have prosopagnosia (inability to recognize faces)? He does seem to always take a minute to recognize people — that would explain so much!
Jae-hee invites Cho-rim to join him for coffee, and he asks if she noticed anything strange when she greeted him. He admits he’s got prosopagnosia, which isn’t actually all that rare, and Cho-rim remembers all the times it took him a few seconds to realize who she was even when she was standing right in front of him.
Cho-rim blurts out that it must make people think he’s so arrogant — and I know he’s a serial killer, but the bland, “No kidding” look he gives her cracks me up. He asks her help, requesting that she stay close to him and let him know who it is when people approach. Of course Cho-rim agrees, though I can’t help thinking it’s a trap.
Mu-gak calls Cho-rim to the station where her friend Ae-ri is under suspicion of stealing five million won (roughly $4600) from her current employer. She swears she’s innocent, but that a woman named Myeong-ok was at their restaurant the day the money went missing.
Myeong-ok claims to have been with her boyfriend in Incheon all day, showing the cops photos she posted online as proof. Looking closely, Cho-rim can tell the woman is lying because her body temperature is rising which makes her scent stronger, but the cops fall for her alibi.
Cho-rim and Mu-gak take Ae-ri to the roof to talk it over, where they take a closer look at the photos Myeong-ok posted on the social media sites. Mu-gak says Ae-ri’s only chance is to show the photos were faked somehow, and the double-puppydog-eyes from both sides are too much for him to resist — he agrees to help prove Ae-ri’s innocence.
Cue adorable pseudo-date montage, as Cho-rim and Mu-gak recreate the photos down to the last detail, trying to find an error somewhere to disprove Myeong-ok’s alibi. I’m dying at Mu-gak’s bored expression, until it’s time to snap a photo and his face comes to life — but only for a split second. I’d bet good money that he’s secretly enjoying their not-really-a-date, and the excuse for skinship with Cho-rim.
When they get to the place where the couple had lunch, Cho-rim stops Mu-gak from ordering his usual mountain of food, since they’re here to re-create the alibi, not have fun. He gives Cho-rim the stinkeye but complies, then gets his revenge by refusing to let Cho-rim use the restroom since Myeong-ok didn’t, going by the timestamps. I’ll say it again, I adore Mu-gak when he’s being petty.
They continue recreating the photos, even riding the rides at the amusement park (I saw that hug!) and finally settling on the trolley. Comparing the photos, they realize that so far, Myeong-ok’s alibi holds up, but Cho-rim just knows Ae-ri is innocent. She defends her friend, saying that in high school she was the only kid who didn’t make fun of Cho-rim’s “monster eye.”
They move on to the the next photo, which turns out to be Myeong-ok and her boyfriend kissing, hee. Seeing an opportunity, Mu-gak insists again that they must copy each photo exactly, down to the tiniest detail. Cho-rim is all, “Fine, let’s do it!” and they get into a cute battle (“I’m really going to do it!” “What, are you scared now?”), daring each other to do it as their faces get closer and closer.
The trolley hits a bump and ends that argument, knocking their faces together, and they kiss. For a long moment they stare into each other’s eyes, then try futilely to convince themselves that that was just for the simulation and no other reason. Riiight.
They head to the last photo location, a curry restaurant, but it doesn’t seem to be where it should be. Cho-rim stumbles on her heels and Mu-gak asks why she wore heels for something like this anyway, since they’d be walking a lot. They go into a shoe store to get her some more comfy walking shoes.
Cho-rim giggles when the store employee mistakes Mu-gak as her boyfriend and corrects the woman, but I saw that tiny smile on his face. Suddenly Cho-rim realizes that even though they’re in a shoe store, the scent of curry is in the walls.
The employee confirms that the shoe store only opened a week ago and that it was a curry place before. And if it’s been a shoe store for a week, then Myeong-ok and her boyfriend had to have been here more than a week ago, busting her alibi wide open.
Faced with the evidence, Myeong-ok confesses to have stolen the money, Ae-ri’s boss apologizes, but Ae-ri immediately quits. She offers Cho-rim and Mu-gak some coupons for the place and declines to join them, giving Cho-rim a look that clearly says, “Go for it, girl!”
As Mu-gak and Cho-rim leave to use the coupons, Mu-gak stops dead when he sees a particular car in the station parking garage. He recognizes the license plate as Baek-kyung’s car, and he rushes over to see Baek-kyung in the backseat. Knocking on the window gets no reaction, and when Mu-gak opens the door, Baek-kyung’s body slumps over lifelessly. DAMMIT, he’s dead.
Horrified, Mu-gak orders Cho-rim not to look (how much do I love that his first thought was for her?) and turns back to Baek-kyung. His voice rises as he pleads, “Chun Baek-kyung… you can’t die… you can’t just die after killing my sister!” He screams at Baek-kyung to wake up so he can kill him himself. Oh, this is hard to watch.
This is the first that Cho-rim has heard of Baek-kyung being under suspicion of being the Barcode Killer, and she cries to think that the nice man she knew could be a monster. Mu-gak screams in frustration, beating his head against the car door as he sees his life’s goal of killing the man who murdered his sister snatched from him.
Later the team investigates the car with Baek-kyung still inside, and they assume that he drove himself here and killed himself, as a way of turning himself in. Detective Ki isn’t so sure, and just then one of the forensic team realizes the truth – there’s a barcode carved into Baek-kyung’s arm. Suddenly the situation morphs from possible suicide to murder, and the team smoothly switches gears and starts looking for clues.
Mu-gak walks away to process this, and Cho-rim gently asks if his sister was really killed by the Barcode Killer. He doesn’t answer but she knows anyway, and she offers to look at Baek-kyung’s body for any scent clues. Touched, Mu-gak’s eyes well up and he says she doesn’t have to do that, but Cho-rim is strong. She sees the obvious scent of alcohol, but says that there’s another scent too, one that she’s never seen before.
The team check the CCTV cameras, and discover that Baek-kyung’s car was driven to the parking garage by a man who happens to have a history of assault on his record. They put out a warrant for his arrest, and Detective Ki poses as a deliveryman to get him to open his door. The man seems genuinely confused and says he was paid to deliver the car, and it’s passenger, who he assumed was only drunk.
He takes them to the fishing area where he picked up the car, and they find a local ajumma who remembers seeing the car there two nights before. She can even pinpoint the time it was left, because the car wasn’t there when she left work, but it was there when she went back for the wallet she’d left behind.
Jae-hee closes his restaurant temporarily, ostensibly to mourn his friend, and he worries over the mysterious sentence that Baek-kyung kept repeating while being held captive: A golden fish must meet a lonely man. Mu-gak comes to ask him some questions, and we see his features as Jae-hee sees him, fuzzy and unclear, until Cho-rim deliberately calls Mu-gak by name.
Mu-gak asks where Jae-hee was on the night Baek-kyung’s car was abandoned, and Jae-hee pulls out his alibi of working late with his sous chef. Mu-gak interviews the sous chef who backs up the story, but Mu-gak doesn’t miss the detail that Jae-hee was supposedly out buying a spice for some of that time. But the alibi holds water, and Mu-gak reports back to Lieutenant Yeom that it would be impossible for Jae-hee to have gotten all the way out to the fishing area and back.
While Jae-hee busily burns what looks like some important papers of Baek-kyung’s, Mu-gak wonders to himself what it was that Baek-kyung wanted to tell him the night he disappeared. He visits the clinic, and the teary-eyed nurse gives him information about the place where Baek-kyung was storing his belongings while he went overseas.
As Mu-gak drives to the storage unit he takes a call from Cho-rim, who tells him to pick a number. He chooses one, which she says is tuna kimbap (and which she’s already making because both numbers were tuna kimbap), and she offers to bring him some later tonight. Mu-gak adorably warns her to bring a lot, and they make plans to meet in an hour.
Jae-hee is also at Baek-kyung’s storage unit, looking for clues as to what his strange sentence could mean. He finds a couple of books, one titled “Golden Fish” and the other “Lonely Man.” Bingo. He takes the books and only barely misses running into Mu-gak as he arrives at the unit.
When Mu-gak goes into the unit, Jae-hee quickly escapes behind him. Mu-gak doesn’t find anything of note, but he freezes as he realizes that a couple of hanging ropes are swinging gently — someone was just in here. Remembering the dark figure passing him, he rushes out, but can’t quite catch the person as he darts between storage units.
Mu-gak rounds a corner and Jae-hee walks right into him, smacking shoulders with him but calmly striding away. Mu-gak stands stock-still for a long moment, then looks down to see blood gushing from a gaping wound in his stomach. Oh dear.
Mu-gak can’t feel the pain, but his face goes pale as he loses blood at an alarming rate, and he falls to the ground. As his consciousness slips away, his thoughts are of Cho-rim, waiting for him.
COMMENTS
Well, that escalated quickly. Let’s hope someone finds Mu-gak soon!
I’m honestly surprised, and a little disappointed that Baek-kyung was killed off so soon, because I feel like I barely got a chance to know who he really was and now he’s gone. I’m sure his death will serve a purpose, and I’m guessing the clue he left about the books will have some significance, but I’m still sad. I was sort of hoping he’d redeem himself with Mu-gak, and team up with him and Cho-rim to take down the real killer, though possibly his clue will still help with that (if posthumously). That clue is incredibly vague and fascinating, but one thing I’m enjoying in regards to this show is that the writer really likes to give us a chance to solve the mysteries ourselves before giving us the answers. So I’m looking forward to hearing people’s thoughts on Baek-kyung’s golden fish and lonely man clue in the comments!
Another clue I find fascinating, is how we were only just now told that Jae-hee has prosopagnosia, otherwise known as face-blindness. It explains a lot, like how he always stares blankly at a person when he’s first faced with them, and only seems to recognize them a few seconds later. That was done so deftly that it really only seemed like a strange personality quirk of his, and I never guessed he might have a sensory processing disorder the same as Mu-gak and Cho-rim. I think it’s interesting to tie his character in with the theme of the show that way, and face-blindness isn’t so rare that it’s out of the realm of possibility. An estimated 2-3% of people have some degree of face-blindness, so it’s entirely believable to find out that Jae-hee struggles with it. And I guess we know now, how he ended up killing the wrong Choi Eun-seol three years ago.
I spent some time researching this condition, which is characterized by the inability to recognize faces, even when it’s someone the person sees often and knows well. As with any other condition, there are degrees of severity, and based on his behavior it seems like Jae-hee’s is pretty severe — he sees everyone as a stranger until they identify themselves. I actually asked some people I know who have this condition, and they clarified that, while it’s almost certainly impossible that his face-blindness would contribute to Jae-hee’s murderous tendencies, it could have something to do with the fact that his victims don’t seem to be of any particular physical type. Since he can’t actually tell what “type” anyone is by sight, he must be using some other criteria to choose his victims. I’ll be very interested to learn what, if any, connection this condition has with Jae-hee’s tendency to dehumanize his victims by marking them with a barcode and turning them into a thing, rather than a person.
And was it just me, or was it scary-impressive how Jae-hee planned out the disposal of Baek-kyung’s body so carefully, weaving hsi movements in with his alibi so well that I had difficulty describing it even as I watched it play out. If this is what he’s capable of when he has to kill and dispose of a victim without time to plan ahead, how much harder will it be to figure out how he carried out his other murders, the ones he had a year to plan in advance?
But this episode wasn’t all doom and gloom, and I especially enjoyed the progress that Mu-gak made in his growing attraction to Cho-rim. First of all when he asked her to keep working with him, on investigations and in the skits, that struck me as such a turning point for him. His biggest failure in his life (as he sees it) was not protecting his sister, and to ask Cho-rim to stay near him and promise to protect her must have taken a lot of courage on Mu-gak’s part. But I love that this couple doesn’t shy away from each other, on any level, and if Mu-gak feels he can protect the girl he’s coming to love, then he’s more than halfway to healing his heart enough to let himself love her.
On a cuter note, on their not-a-date, it didn’t escape my notice that Mu-gak was the one initiating most of the skinship — grabbing Cho-rim to steady her on the rides, guiding her around to the next photo location with a gentle hand on her arm or back, and even suggesting that they had to re-enact the kiss photo… you know, for science. For the first time he seemed to be actually looking for reasons to get closer to Cho-rim physically, and his shy smile when the shop owner mistook him for her boyfriend was just the cutest. I was also happy to see him think of her first when he realized Baek-kyung was dead, and not pushing her away “for her own good” when she offered to look at the body for clues. Their friendship and partnership are just getting stronger and stronger, and the more I see, the more I love them both.
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1 Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 3:08 AM
I really loved this ep.: the context of CR’s friend being accused of stealing, which gave CR and MG a reason to go “on a date.” The accidental kiss happening (the way it happened), also works for me. This is a small detail, however I love how true to character MG is staying, being petty and usually wanting to get even with CR. He didn’t want her to take a bathroom break, because she didn’t want him to order more food, LOL. This is the guy who made her give a longer apology, just so he could enjoy her saying how sorry she was, for slapping him and for yelling at him a few hours earlier. Petty MG is kinda funny (though not being able to go the bathroom when you really need to go, is not). Awwww, and the way MG threw back the shoe, when CR coyly said, “he is not my boyfriend,” (though he had a little smile, when the store lady said that).
And ack! MG was stabbed. That took me by surprise. They do a good a job with the sound in this drama. I didn’t see that coming, and watching the episode raw, that added sound for effect worked, and added the element of surprise for me.
Thank you for the recap!
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Yuki
April 25, 2015 at 5:34 AM
Heee, I also laughed at how he threw away the shoe when she said he was not her boyfriend...The "not-a-date" was lovely, accidental kiss included, they were both looking forward to it :D
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 8:50 AM
MG: Me not your boyfriend? Angry! Throws away shoes, no new shoes for you! hahaha
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 9:10 AM
Hello Neutral,
I didn't see MG's reaction as being angry, did you? I felt that he was flattered (and kind of happy) when the store lady said that he was her boyfriend, but then his feelings were deflated when CR said he was not her boyfriend. To me, he must have thought, "Oh! We are not at that stage yet? Awwww... never mind then. I was already there, in my head, and in my feelings. *throws back the shoe* "
MG angry to me is when he saw Dr. Chun and realized he was dead. I think he was shocked, and I think that there was also some anger (initially) at thinking that he might have killed himself, since it would mean that MG would not get his answers, and could not himself avenge his sister's death (like put him in jail himself). However I think those feelings vanished when MG realized that Dr. Chun had been a victim of the Barcode Killer.
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 9:24 AM
Oopss wrong word :p deflated/disappointed is more like it lol
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 9:56 AM
@ Neutral,
OK, I see what you mean :-) Now that I think about it, I also think that MG actually didn't want to give away how happy he felt a that moment with the comment the store lady made. I think he must have thrown the shoe away QUICKLY, so that CR and the store lady (more so CR probably) would not realize how happy he would be to officially be at that stage. I felt that he was trying to act nonchalant, so as to hide his true feelings. MG is so adorable, I want to hang out with him :-)
growingbeautifully
April 25, 2015 at 11:19 PM
@Appelsin @Neutral @ Ivoire
I felt that MG was pleased to be considered the boyfriend and he had taken the shoe in hand to recommend that CR try it on... I feel he even wanted to be the one to put it on her foot... so when he was deflated, he tossed it away quickly, so that no one would notice that he'd had that intention.
CR really put her foot in it!!! LOLOL!
Ivoire
April 26, 2015 at 8:05 AM
@ GB unnie,
Good points, I had not thought of that. But they do make sense :-)
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 8:59 AM
Hi Appelsin,
The way he threw the shoe was so so cute! I loved it. I am really loving PYC in this drama. All those scenes he acts in, with a straight face, when the camera is rolling. Though it is nice to see that he himself cannot keep a straight face when they are rehearsing. He really makes MG adorable and endearing.
And I agree with this, "The “not-a-date” was lovely, accidental kiss included," though I wonder how much they were looking forward to it, seeing that they kept holding back, and bickering. The bump was what pushed it along (or made it happen?) because I have a feeling they would have continued to argue for a while, hehehe... And yay, the 1st kiss finally happened, and I was not disappointed with the set-up *looks at GB's direction :-) * or the kiss itself. I thought it was OK for their 1st kiss, I could accept that considering who MG and CR are.
And the way MG kept flexing (after the kiss), saying:"Yep, it's for the investigation. It's for the investigation..." Who was he kidding or fooling? Certainly not us :-)
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 9:37 AM
Yay me too! I feel like bowing 90 degrees to the person who casted PYC to play CMG :D He absolutely nailed the character, the tiny details he's paying to the character is just commendable. And OCR too, I'm just glad that she's SSK and not all those confirmed or rumoured offered the role. Their chemistry is just something else.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 10:14 AM
@ Neutral,
I TOTALLY agree with all that you have said there. I really LOVED PYC in Three Days, and I am glad to see that he REALLY can do comedy *Phew, wipes brow* I really do like him as an actor. And I also agree that SSK is up to par with PYC, as far as her character is concerned. I saw a little bit of her in Fashion King, and I didn't like her character in that drama. She shines here however, and I really love how PYC and her are throwing themselves into their roles.
I also love Det. Ki. I have loved him in every role I have seen him in, so far (I Do, I Do, YFAS, Three Days, and now here). I LOVE the way he says his girlfriend's name (in the past episodes we have seen). He has a good diction in foreign languages, from what I can hear so far. I would love to hear him say something in French or in Spanish (I fluently speak and I have taught in both languages, so my hearing is quite acute when I listen to people who speak in those languages).
pastmidnite
April 26, 2015 at 1:41 AM
@Ivoire,
You know, unnie, when I first read somewhere about SSK in Fashion King, I was like, what? She was in FK? As who? LOL I have watched FK (for YAI, of course, and I know the drama was a flop but I finished it for YAI), and I forgot that she was in it. As the lead! LOL But now I think I'll forever remember her as the girl who sees smells! She rocks in this role!
Ivoire
April 26, 2015 at 8:08 AM
@ pastmidnite Hey *Waves*
I loved your comment. So funny!!!! I didn't know your love of YAI was that big! :-) And I agree with you, SSK rocks in this role. I saw a little bit of FK, but could not stay with it. I tried. And I read that the ending was a doozy :-(
Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 12:11 PM
@Ivoire
"I really LOVED PYC in Three Days, and I am glad to see that he REALLY can do comedy *Phew, wipes brow* I really do like him as an actor."
You've watched Three Days? Me too and I love him in there, actions and all, almost zero romance, lol. His role in TGWSS is totally different from Three Days. I love how he's not sticking with what makes him feel comfortable.
Oh and I share same thoughts with you on SSK. I've watched a little bit of SSK before but couldn't really remember which series, she doesn't really stand out, if you know what I mean. But here, she's so likeable, haha.
And Detective Ki, lol, the way he pronounces Elena V...... is always funny. I'm always wondering, did he pronounce the name right, so it's right after all, huh?
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 5:10 PM
@ Neutral,
Yes dear! I watched Three Days, all of it. And even though some of the economics concepts lost me a little, and the drama wasn't totally perfect, I really loved it! I loved the cast, and I especially LOVED PYC in it. That was the drama that made me see him as a really good actor. I kept watching him like a hawk, expecting him to drop the ball, acting-wise. He was acting with many sunbaes, and that is a very good litmus test. If the actor/actress is good (or has become better), it will show, and they will be able to go up and be on par with the sunbaes who are very good at what they do. A lot of my favorite Korean actors and actresses are actually the older ones (the mid 30s and up, until very old age), I LOVE watching them. They have life experience, many of them have gravitas, and many of them make acting look easy, like I could do it too, LOL! It seems to roll off of them.
So in the presence of so many sunbaes, I felt that PYC held his own, and he was good in his action scenes (especially since he actually needed surgery for his shoulder, but he postponed it), and he was very good in his emotional scenes. I also loved the themes touched upon in the drama, b/c I studied some of it in school (college), and I am interested in world affairs, however, it often takes me a little while to understand some of the concepts and their ramifications. So I felt a little lost when it came to understand the consequences (economically) of the bad guy's actions on the economy, for Korea, and worldwide. I would have liked to have had someone to discuss those with. I guess I should have tried Soompi at the time. I didn't think of that then.
I felt that PYC also had a good understanding of his character, and of his role in the drama. I loved his chemistry with both female leads, and at the beginning, it looked to me that he might actually liked the 2nd female lead. I thought he had great chemistry with PHS, really. My favorite line (among many lines) was "my eyes have to see you, for my mind to be at ease," after she was almost killed :-) A commenter said during that drama recap that PYC seemed to have this gentle side to him, and that she understood why he was chosen. I don't know if I can say it as well as she did, but her whole comment made sense (she said more).
And I see that in him. It's like he is male, yet he seems to be aware of the people he is with, and sensitive to them. I could be wrong, and read too much into it, but that is what I sense from him. Also, I think that the way he lost his dad in 2012 (he didn't get to say "goodbye"to his dad while he was alive) must have soften him maybe? It would definitely mature him. The same happened to me, I was in another country when my dad died, so I didn't get to say "goodbye" before he took his last breath, and you can't get that back. I think I have a soft spot for PYC partially b/c of that. I understand that experience, and like him, I am the older in my family (of 6).
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 5:48 PM
@ Neutral,
I have more to say about your comment, so I will say it here. I hope that is OK. So I watched PYC in RTP, but I didn't love him in it. I liked him some, but I liked HJM's acting more than I did his. TD (a drama I was not going to watch, just check out), made me look at him differently, acting-wise. And so, when I heard about TGWSS, again, I was not going to watch it, just check it out. I was curious about the concept, and I wanted to see if PYC could do more than act angsty, and angry, and cry (which he does well, especially his silent crying, ep.2 or 3 of TD). And so I was very relieved to see that he does it well, especially his deadpan faces. He is totally in character, and I buy him as MG, totally. And the way he eats, such gusto, LOL I have actually seen a video of him eating (BTS of TD), and he eats the same way (or kind of the same way) in real life, which I find interesting. I think he must be easy to read, when it comes to whether he likes the food or not :-)
I will respectfully disagree with you: TD had no kissing scenes, and little skinship, but it had the beginning of romance, which in my book counts as romance. And I actually liked that, b/c it fit with what we had seen happening in the drama all along, and the romance was not the main theme for that drama. I remember the recapper for ep.15 hoping there would be a kiss in ep.16, and I was the only one who said, I actually don't want one, it would feel like it's coming out of left field. A good drama, like a good book has to flow, and keep its cohesiveness. When that happens, it is easier to forgive other flaws, if there are any. In the end, there were no kisses, and I was happy about that. They were not necessary, yet we knew the leads liked each other. I loved their type of romance too. I was actually hoping for a hug, that would have satisfied me. The other thing, when you don't have that type of skinship, is that your writing needs to really be good, to keep the viewers interested. I read that the writer did really well with Sign, and Ghost, but that TD was not as cohesive. I still have to see both dramas.
I agree with this, " I love how he’s not sticking with what makes him feel comfortable." And yeah, I really like SSK here. And yes, Det. Ki pronounces that name (Elena V...) really well. and then in ep. 8 *SPOILER* he says "Thank you" in Russian, and he says it well. I had some Russian friends when I was in college, so they would teach me some words. I also speak 4 languages, and I used to sing in a choir (in different languages), so my ear became trained to how things are supposed to sound like. My attention immediately goes there, when I hear a foreign language, or the ones I speak.
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 5:53 PM
@ Neutral, the end:
And I have noticed that about Det. Ki. He says it effortlessly, and he looks comfortable saying it. Not every Korean actor is like that. I can think of a few who have botched English or French (or Spanish), and it might not have been for their lack of trying. Western languages are very different from Asian languages, and vice versa.
Also I loved that in TD, the female lead was strong, smart, dependable, and was a great partner to PYC's character, like CR here :-)
growingbeautifully
April 25, 2015 at 11:23 PM
@ Ivoire
Since this is a drama first kiss, that may have taken many takes to get filmed (Heheheh!) yes, it should be a kiss that we do not get disappointed with. Actually, when the trolley hit the bump, they should have been bumped upwards, but they were already primed to move forwards, towards each other and so they bumped lips. I thought it was well shot and wondered how hard it might have been to get right! LOL!
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growingbeautifully
April 25, 2015 at 5:39 AM
Thanks LollyPip! I enjoyed your recap.
Hi Ivoire,
Although I was laughing at MG's pettiness, I was also tsk-tsking... what do you mean she can't go to the loo... when you've gotta go, you've gotta go! Just re-time the re-enactment LOL!
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 9:09 AM
Guess it's not a matter of re-timing the re-enactment, it's more "I am so gonna get even with you! No extra food for me, fair, no bathroom breaks for you!” LOL!
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 9:25 AM
@ GB unnie and @ Neutral,
I sooo agree with both of you! I find it so funny that MG is being petty with a straight face. He really takes seriously getting even with CR, EVERY. SINGLE. TIME! Hehehe...
Regarding MG catching CR on the ride, I don't know if he was necessarily looking for skinship, as much as he honestly wanted to steady her. If I were with a guy I liked, I would appreciate it if he steadied me on one of those rides. She didn't look like she was hanging on as tightly as MG was. I am not big on those, personally. I have tried it once, and that was good enough for me :-)
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 8:46 AM
“This is a small detail, however I love how true to character MG is staying, being petty and usually wanting to get even with CR.”
Haha true! I so love it every time Mu-gak tries to get even with Cho-rim; from the earlier “oh, so you want to apologize now, make it a longer one then” to the “now tell me which glass of wine I’ve to pay and which one is free” to the “nope, no bathroom break for you, cause you are the one asking me to lift my right leg and do silly pose, saying we have to re-enact 100%”. Petty Mu-gak is an adorable Mu-gak lol
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 9:48 AM
@ Neutral,
I totally agree with everything you wrote :-) And please don't forget the "I am not giving you a bathroom break (more like not letting you have one) because you didn't let me order more food, using the excuse of re-enacting EXACTLY what the couple did. So there *imagines MG sticking his tongue out at CR, like the little child he is sometimes, when he is with her*
MG is seriously fun. I wonder what it would feel like to have a boyfriend or a husband like him, because you know he is not being malicious about it. We know he cares about CR (a lot) :-)
Also, MG wants to even the score with CR even in the good things, like when he insisted on giving her another present, to make up for the teddy bear he got for his sister. And he also argued in the bus, because he wanted her to ABSOLUTELY have it. Yeah, we have said, but it is worth saying it again, "Petty MG is really cute and adorable." Things are not boring with him. And I also love how CR reacts to his antics, like when she rolled her eyes at the restaurant. It's like she knows him (which she kind of does).
I do like that MG is an adult and responsible when it matters (when he is working), and that he is petty when it is OK to be. I also like that he SOOOOOO has a soft spot for CR, he doesn't resist her, when she really wants something (bathroom break aside, hehehe). I LOVED how both AR and CR gave him puppy dog eyes (and I think CR was begging him to do it, or egging him on), and even though he 1st made an excuse, he was like, "OK, I guess I will do it." Aaaaand he got his date, (and his 1st kiss), which was AWESOME!!!!!!
I might be the only one feeling this way, however I really like seeing PYC with KSH. I wish we would have more scenes (flashbacks) with the two of them. I know she must be busy with her new drama, however I really like the two of them together, knowing how she feels about him, and how he sees her as the little sister he never had.
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2 Emmy
April 25, 2015 at 3:26 AM
So in love with this couple, they are adorable together. I now wonder why Shin Se-kyung has been hiding herself in melodramas when she's so good at comedy.
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Jon G.
April 25, 2015 at 3:29 AM
Preach it.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 4:23 AM
I am in love with this couple as well. Did anyone notice that even though MG and CR got physically close for the kiss photo (and the kiss accidentally happened), they actually did not take a picture of that pose? I wonder if it was because they were not "ready," and because the bump on the ground took them by surprise. It was just funny that the reason for "kissing" (in the 1st place), did not materialize (no pictures taken). Yeah, MG really wanted that particular kind of skinship. It was cute and funny how he insisted that "of course, they have to re-enact EVERY PICTURE the lady and her boyfriend took."
I know MG felt his heart flutter (based on his reaction), however, I wonder if he actually physically felt anything, since he can't physically feel and taste things (yet).
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Hazelnuts
April 25, 2015 at 6:19 AM
I'm definitely with you ladies! What's not to love with this couple! Their partnership, friendship is just growing and blooming! Awwww. It's just close to reality. I mean who wouldn't fall for someone with whom you've shared food, your deepest hurts and fears. It'll end up you loving the other half truly. And deeply. Just like ChoRim and MuGak. Heee!! Love them!! ♡♡♡
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 10:22 AM
Hi Hazelnuts,
Once again, I TOTALLY agree with another comment. I agree with ALL that you said, especially with this "I mean who wouldn’t fall for someone with whom you’ve shared food, your deepest hurts and fears. It’ll end up with you loving the other half truly. And deeply. Just like ChoRim and MuGak. Heee!! Love them!! ♡♡♡ "
(By the way, how did you do the heart shapes? I love those) :-)
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 9:21 AM
Absolutely agree. And I like how naturally we are falling in love with this couple like how naturally they've grown closer to each other in the series. It's so not kdrama-ish, if there's such word, lol
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 10:24 AM
@ Neutral,
Another well said comment (ALL of it) :-) that I totally agree with, and especially this "It’s so not kdrama-ish, if there’s such word, lol"
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3 Jon G.
April 25, 2015 at 3:28 AM
The face-blindness thing is finally some really nice bit. It solves a lot of open questions very elegantly, gives the baddie some very distinct trait (and weakness, to boot), ties him closer to CR with added suspense. Well played.
Of course, the visualisation of it seems rather "inaccurate" from what I know, but these kind of disabilities are REALLY difficult to visualise in the first place. Better to do it this way than having half an hour of lengthy exposition. Show, don't tell, in a way.
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 9:45 AM
@Jon G.
"The face-blindness thing is finally some really nice bit."
I didn't expect this to come, good surprise. And this is also one thing I like about this show, they keep surprising us when we least expect it. I bet many went "ahh, so this is why!" lol
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 10:26 AM
I didn't expect the face-blindness revelation either. That WAS a nice surprise.
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nomad
April 25, 2015 at 10:38 PM
Yes, the face-blindness was quite a smart move!
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Y.
April 26, 2015 at 5:41 PM
Yes, I agree, it gives Jae-hee both a distinct trait and a weakness. We may not know yet the reason why he kills people, but we're starting to remove his 'layers'.
To be honest, if I had to pinpoint out the only thing I didn't really like about this revelation, it would be that we just had another chef with prosopagnosia (not saying in which drama because I don't really remember if it was a huge revelation or not, so just in case...), so it's not that 'new'. Because, really, I get it that it's not such an uncommon condition (I had no idea, thanks for the info, LollyPip!), but both the condition AND the job? Not sure if it's ~that~ likely...
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4 Heartoppaya
April 25, 2015 at 3:30 AM
I think "the golden fish" is Cho Rim and "the lonely man" is Moo Gak. They had to meet, y'know? Lol
Anyway, RIP Doc. You will be remembered and missed. Jae Hee's attention for small details is quite impressive yet scary. That's what makes him a perfect killer.
You haven't posted the kissing pics, Lolly, waeeeeeee? You have to post them in the future, mkay?
Thanks for the recap. Although I watched both eps already, I love reading your recaps.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 4:44 AM
As scary as JH's attention for small details are, I really like them. I felt that I got to see (to an extent), how his mind works, when it comes to his murders.
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5 CLINTON CARTER
April 25, 2015 at 3:40 AM
There should be a law that Shin Se Kyung should only do comedy
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 9:48 AM
Or maybe a law that she should only act opposite PYC :D lol
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Kiara
April 25, 2015 at 3:06 PM
She is decent in sageuks so I didn't think she was terrible before because I was only watching sageuks and I didn't get to see her in modern dramas.
Her first drama was a sageuk *(Land). her second drama was a sageuk (QSD) and her first major role in a sageuk was in Tree with Deep Roots. I'm curious to see if she would do better (stand out) if she gets a major role in another sageuk.
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nara
April 26, 2015 at 12:25 AM
she is amazing in Tazza 2
and for me at least she was amazing in WAAML
i didnt think that korean were mature enough or modern enough to create such a complicated and modern thinking female character since usually there female characters are especially stupid and extremely conservative
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6 gustave154
April 25, 2015 at 4:03 AM
Great episode. Nam Goong Min psycho acting is daebak
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 4:47 AM
Yeah, his psycho acting is really awesome! I love how he can be so calculating and cold, and yet speak so gently and softly, making one think that he is a nice and harmless person.
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Chloe
April 25, 2015 at 7:51 AM
since Nam Goong Min acts like that in most shows, I guess he acts like a psycho in rea life :D
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Cocobeans
April 25, 2015 at 8:15 AM
he def. killed me with those abs..lord have mercy...Come here boy..noona has a nice curtain rod in her bedroom you can swing from ;)
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 9:50 AM
LOL! But I'm a psycho noona, are you okay with it?
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 5:57 PM
LOL at cocobeans and @ Neutral's comments. @ cocobeans, have you taken that cold shower yet? :-)
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 10:32 AM
He didn't act like that in I Need Romance 3, for example :-) I have seen a little of him in We Got Married. He speaks the same way (gently and softly), and even when he lies (there was one instance when he lied to his "wife"), he is so smooth about it, LOL! He is totally believable. Goes to show how good an actor he is, I guess.
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Pollywood
April 25, 2015 at 8:19 AM
I feel he's always kinda shifty, because he doesn't look people directly in the eye.
He did same thing in My Secret Hotel...
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 9:55 AM
@Pollywood
"he doesn’t look people directly in the eye"
I wonder if NGM is like that in real life, it's just the characters he's playing, right?
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 10:34 AM
I think he does look at people in the eye in real life. He did in We Got Married.
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Pollywood
April 25, 2015 at 11:21 AM
I sure hope so :) it's enough that he creeps the hell out of me on screen...
Man, Korea sure has some good creepers ... *twists nail ring*
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 6:00 PM
Yes, Korea does have some good creepers. I can think of a few other Korean actors who are very good at it, the bad guy from YFAS being one of them. Did you see him in Liar Game? He was really, really good in it.
kororo
April 25, 2015 at 9:04 AM
OMG I swear NGM totally scared the crap out of me brrrr, I was sure that the doctor was the killer and then MENBOONG !!! And I'm surprising myself loving SSK more and more, I think comedy-rom-com suit her well.
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Aigoooo
April 25, 2015 at 7:05 PM
Yeah, he makes for a perfect villain. He's got that 1000 yard stare down pat.
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7 Lotus_Blossom
April 25, 2015 at 4:13 AM
Thanks, LollyPip!
The OTP is so cute. I just wanna squish them. Their relationship is as refreshing as the spring. I also love that they discuss their issues so openly.
I am glad that the baddie is not one-dimensional. For once, I am not bored watching the villain's antics. He is one fascinating piece of hot ass (seriously, those buns of steel 0_O). It's certainly disconcerting to think that such a cold monster lurks beneath that Prince Charming exterior.
Chef Kwon strikes me as a cold, methodical killer; and yet he decided to stab Mugak? Granted, he stepped out of his usual one-a-year killing routine when he offed Choi Eun Sol and Dr. Chun, but they were witnesses. Mu Gak, however, was just at the storage site to investigate and he did not even see him there. So, why so impulsive? Was he that threatened by Mu Gak?
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thursdaynexxt
April 25, 2015 at 4:29 AM
"Those buns of steel" - haha. Not that we mind the blatant fan service!
I was half-expecting that scene already, given that it was also a highlight of My Secret Hotel!
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 4:37 AM
About this, "So, why so impulsive? Was he that threatened by Mu Gak?"
Could it be that JH just likes to be in control, and he wanted to decide MG's fate? I don't think that JH thought about the fact that MG did not even see him there. He saw MG coming out of the storage unit, obviously looking for someone, so he might have assumed that MG might have seen him.
And why did MG feel the need to go alone, at night to look into the storage unit? Granted, he could not have predicted that the killer would be there as well, but still...
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Lotus_Blossom
April 25, 2015 at 3:17 PM
@Ivoire
Regarding, " And why did MG feel the need to go alone, at night to look into the storage unit?
That was a foolish move on Mu Gak's part. With a dangerous killer on the loose, all precautionary measures should have been taken. But this incident also further demonstrates his obsession with finding his sister's killer. While Cho Rim is becoming more important to him, avenging his sister's death is still his raison d'etre.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 6:02 PM
@ Lotus_Blossom,
So well said! I had not thought of that, especially this, "But this incident also further demonstrates his obsession with finding his sister’s killer. While Cho Rim is becoming more important to him, avenging his sister’s death is still his raison d’etre."
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growingbeautifully
April 25, 2015 at 5:45 AM
About Chef Kwon stabbing MG... I felt that it was out of character for him. Since he is so meticulous, he should have ensured that MG died, or else why go back to stab him at all? He could have just disappeared. Since MG did not go looking for him immediately, it was obvious that MG had not really looked at him to begin with, and did not know who it was.
So I wonder why we have the stabbing... will it move the story forward or just add more opportunity for couple time... (or clues for the investigation) since surely our hero canNOT die!
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thursdaynexxt
April 25, 2015 at 7:06 AM
And vice versa, Chef Kwon wouldn't have had time to recognise that it was Mu Gak.
If our hero almost dies, maybe he'll come back with some more super-sensory skills?
Or he'll return able to feel things he didn't before. Which might be a help or a hindrance to his investigation (like in IHYV)...
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 10:26 AM
@GB
"Since he is so meticulous, he should have ensured that MG died, or else why go back to stab him at all?"
I'm thinking, Chef Kwon may be meticulous but only when he's given ample time to plan his actions. Him stabbing Mu-gak is more like an impulsive act, although at this point, we don't see the need for him to do so.
My guess; can it be because he's been so lonely all these years, no smart enough efforts from the cops to catch him. And now suddenly there's a CMG who's so determined to get him, he's just glad he's found somebody to play the game with him. His intention is not to kill but just to say "Hey, I'm here and I'm in control".
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 10:30 AM
I like how this scene is being executed and the sound effect, like suddenly out of nowhere *stabbed* and we go sh*t, what happened?
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 12:21 PM
@ Neutral and to all others,
I too felt that MG had acted out of character, and I was not sure why he actually did that. I like @ Neutral's guess, and I was thinking along the same lines. I think I wrote something like that to another commenter here.
Also, I too liked how that scene was executed (MG's stabbing). I did not see that coming at all, but I was glad MG noticed quickly that he was loosing a lot of blood. Part of me wonders if the stabbing has to do with moving the plot along, and having Chef make a mistake, that might open a window (or at least a crack in the window) for the police people to move in the right direction in their thinking, and in their actions. In situations like this, the killer/bad guy usually makes one mistake, that brings about his demise or his fall, eventually.
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Ivoire
May 4, 2015 at 12:52 PM
Sorry, I meant to say JH acted out of character, not MG.
growingbeautifully
April 25, 2015 at 11:35 PM
@ Neutral and @ Ivoire
An interesting take on the stabbing. At the very least, it may add to the realization by our killer that he does not always succeed at what he does... he did not kill the right Eun Sol and he failed to kill MG.
I wonder what goes on in his head. Since he did not succeed before, even though there is no threat from Cho Rim or no evident threat from MG, will he just go on trying to kill them to succeed in what he set out to do? And will they then be chosen to be barcode victims, instead of being killed just to tidy up loose ends?
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Sook
April 26, 2015 at 2:13 AM
Chef Kwon could have slit MG'S throat like he did to MG's sister. But he didn't. Hhmmm...
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Ondubu
April 25, 2015 at 1:55 PM
I was wondering about this, too! It felt out of character for me as well. I wondered if it was to get rid of a possible threat but in that case I feel like he should've done more than just stab MG to make sure MG wouldn't be a nuisance anymore.
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Lotus_Blossom
April 25, 2015 at 3:33 PM
@Gb @Neutral @Ivoire and to the others
I like all your explanations. I also like to add that stabbing Mu Gak could also be Chef Kwon's--in his won diabolical way --of getting back at Mugak for tackling him to the ground earlier. Lol, perhaps Mu Gak is not the only petty one here. XD
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 6:06 PM
@ Lotus_Blossom,
You are funny! And smart :-) I loved this, "his own diabolical way –of getting back at Mugak for tackling him to the ground earlier. Lol, perhaps Mu Gak is not the only petty one here." Thank you for the laugh! :-)
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growingbeautifully
April 25, 2015 at 11:36 PM
@ Lotus_Blossom
Ahh! I forgot that MG had 'manhandled' our Chef. Pettiness like sensory dysfunctions might be rife in this show!!! LOLOL!
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 10:01 AM
This OTP has climbed to the top of my list of favourite OTPs of all time (without informing me), haha
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 12:22 PM
Same for me :-) I hope they remain this awesome!
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8 kiwichan
April 25, 2015 at 4:14 AM
thanx LollyPip for the recap :D
after reading ur recap, I feel like to re-watch this episode again..haha..I just adore our OTP so so much <3
I firstly know about Prosopagnosia disorder from Surplus Princess! Funny facts, both are chef and have a same surname too as Chef Kwon!
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 4:50 AM
I too, feel like rewatching the ep., after reading the recap. It makes me want to see the OTP again.
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9 poliwag
April 25, 2015 at 4:25 AM
I was falling in love bit by bit with Dr. Chun and then he dies ;; RIP Doc, you were cool even if a bit sad- at least you get to join your wife? :o
Also, I know what the 'golden fish' and 'lonely fish' clue leads since I already watched the next episode: though when I first watched it, I thought it was Jaehee brainwashing Dr. Chun into repeating the same sentence over and over for his amusement. Since he already treats people like objects with the barcode, it wasn't a far inference ;w;
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poliwag
April 25, 2015 at 4:34 AM
Oops, meant 'lonely man' in that. Proofreading should be a thing :c
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 5:05 AM
This is interesting, "though when I first watched it, I thought it was Jaehee brainwashing Dr. Chun into repeating the same sentence over and over for his amusement."
When I 1st watched this ep. (with no subs), I assumed that MG purposely chose spicy food to eat with CR, to give her a reason to cry, since she looked like she wanted to have a good cry. I thought that he not only saw her crying at the Frog Troupe building, but also when she was walking home (now I am not so sure that he noticed that she was crying, as she was walking). And I remember thinking, "awwww... He is such a thoughtful man, choosing spicy food to eat, so she could have a good cry." I guess I might have read too much into MG's reason for choosing that kind of spicy food.
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growingbeautifully
April 25, 2015 at 5:46 AM
Hi Again Ivoire
I too thought he chose spicy food so she could cry without embarrassment. Why do you think you might have read too much into it?
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 10:40 AM
@GB & @Ivoire
"he chose spicy food so she could cry without embarrassment."
I thought this is obvious, that's why the options he gave to Cho-rim, number 1 and number 2, are both spicy pork hocks lol and he even stayed put when he clearly saw his car being towed away, he just wanna let the girl cry to her heart's content, aww. Were can I order a Mu-gak for myself lol
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 1:12 PM
@ Neutral,
About this, "and he even stayed put when he clearly saw his car being towed away, he just wanna let the girl cry to her heart’s content, aww. Were can I order a Mu-gak for myself lol"
I think MG staying seated, when he saw his car being towed away showed how much he cares about CR and about how she feels, and it also shows how considerate and thoughtful (again) of a boyfriend, *oops* huh... of a guy he is :-) He didn't want to interrupt her crying session, and I think he really wanted to just stay with her, during that time (kind of being her shoulder to cry on, without literally doing so). That kind of emotional support goes a long way.
I also wonder if PYC has a sweet tooth. What do you guys think? Does anyone know? In RTP, his character LOVED sweets, and mint candy. In this scene, I think they were having some kind of ice cream as they were leaving the restaurant, weren't they? That just made me think. I am not sure, b/c in the BTS, I don't see him having a lot of sweets though, so maybe some of his characters are just written having some sweets every once in a while?
See GB unnie, there I go again, reading a lot into things, or thinking them to death :-)
And @ Neutral,
I would love to order a MG for myself as well (I am single, LOL). So I am standing in line behind you :-) Maybe there is a place where they make him (multiple MGs :-) ) We had fun having these kinds of conversations during The King Two Hearts. Some of us fell in love with the 2nd male lead, ESK. Those continuous conversations were hilarious, hehehe. One of the beanies had made up this factory (where multiple ESK were made), and she would give us weekly updates on how "the project" was coming along (while she was taking orders). It was fun! Awwwww... What Kdramas make us do. If it brings a good laugh, I am all for it :-)
kiwichan
April 25, 2015 at 5:00 PM
I want to order Moo Gak for myself too! :lol:
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 6:07 PM
@ bluesky,
LOL!!!! Please join the club, we welcome you! :-)
iana
April 25, 2015 at 7:07 PM
I want to order too. lol
I'm single too. standing in line behind you guys :D
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 8:10 PM
@ Iana,
Welcome to the line! And you are single too? WOW!!!! That is some club we are having :-)
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 12:54 PM
@ GB unnie and @ Neutral,
So we both saw the same thing then? That was honestly the 1st thing that came to my mind, and I was watching the ep. raw that time, so I had NO IDEA what they were even saying. I just saw the sequence of MG going to the theater room, then following CR, then talking to the Director, and then CR's sunbae (and I could tell she was chewing him out), and then him following her (on the street), and then the two eating, and her constantly crying, so I assumed what we all initially assumed.
@ GB unnie,
I thought I read too much into it, b/c I read another recap (on ep.7), and I think the recapper had a slightly different take on that scene. Also LollyPip mentioned that scene, but she didn't imply or say that MG might have PURPOSELY chosen spicy food. And that made me wonder if I had thought wrong? Having said that, LollyPip and the other recapper do not have to EXACTLY think the way we do, or spell out everything, which is why it must be interesting for them as well (the recappers) to read our thoughts. They too get to be exposed to different takes on the scenes, and on the drama as a whole.
Also, when I didn't see it being mentioned here (and in the other recap) that MG might have done it on purpose (so CR could cry without embarrassment), I thought, "how many guys would think of doing sth like that? Unlike they know their girl really well?" Well, thing is, MG IS GETTING to know his girl really well, AND his character is written by a female writer, right? I think that many (or at least some) women writers would know the kinds of things women viewers would be sensitive too (and go "awww..." over"), so they can write their male characters in such a way that the female audience would respond positively to him. Of course, there are many exceptions to my assumption (male leads that make you want to run into the other direction, sometimes up to a point, sometimes during the whole run of the drama).
OK, I feel better now. I am going back to thinking that MG purposely chose spicy food for CR. Also, he didn't give anything away. When she asked him why he did that, he had that blank face that I could not read, so that made me not being so sure after all. If I had seen him smile (a little) and do sth like turn his head to the side (so she wouldn't see him), then I would have believe for sure that he did it on purpose. That being said, I like our theory, so I am sticking with it :-). Especially since his choices were both the same.
Also, was I the only one who felt that there was a little bit of a meta, with the "choose 1 or 2" question? It reminded me of the Chae Young Shin (of Healer drama), "choose West or East."
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LollyPip
April 25, 2015 at 1:08 PM
"which is why it must be interesting for them as well (the recappers) to read our thoughts"
SO INTERESTING, you have no idea :) I read every comment, and it's very interesting when someone picks up on something I missed, or saw but didn't think was important, and catches something I never considered. It really didn't occur to me that he may have chosen spicy food on purpose, but it makes so much sense! I love reading everyone's thoughts, it's one of my favorite things about recapping.
chunnie
April 25, 2015 at 1:12 PM
@ivoire
Just want to make a little correction...the scriptwriter is male..and i can legitly say that he is yoochun's fan(man)boy...XD
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 1:57 PM
Hello LollyPip *Waves*
And thank you for literally making my day. I figured you must read all our comments, since you mentioned that you are looking forward to our thoughts. Still, to have one of my comments picked up, and commented upon feels very nice.
I always want to (usually) write short comments, yet somehow I often end up being detailed and long winded. I guess at least when I am done writing, one knows exactly what I was thinking and maybe feeling?
Thank you also for letting us know that the time we take to comment here is time well spent. That is one of the reasons I enjoy watching Kdramas, to be honest. I love the part where we all come together to dissect the episode (and the drama) to death, LOL! It's like taking a litt. class, except with Kdramas, you know. And I love that we can ask all kinds of questions: language ones, culture ones, "how did they do that/film that" kinds of questions, etc... B/c the beanies have different backgrounds and different interests, so there is often someone, or some people who have some answers, or can at least offer some suggestions. And there is the added bonus to be connecting (literally) with people from around the world.
I do find it INTERESTING that it did not occur to you that MG might have done it on purpose. I think that for some reason, I have subconsciously always assumed that the recapper must know more than I do, when it comes to the drama, or the scenes. But "no," you guys are mostly people like us, and you benefit from reading our comments, as much as we benefit from reading your thoughts, whether we happen to agree, or disagree, which is wonderful!
I have a couple of questions for you, if I may: why do you think "it makes so much sense!" I am curious about your thoughts on that.
For me, I want to see MG as a thoughtful and kind (and considerate) person, and him doing that, reinforces that aspect of him (in my mind), which is why I chose to go with it.
2--Do you sometimes go back to previous recaps, and see if there were added comments? B/c as you know, people keep commenting, and they might add something that might have been said before. Just a thought. I often go back and reply to comments left to me (in case the commenter goes back and reread it). I have this thing about leaving a conversation "unfinished." However, if I have nothing more to say, then I say nothing. Which does happen, believe me :-)
Well, Happy Reading :-)
LollyPip
April 25, 2015 at 2:12 PM
@Ivoire, I'm just a viewer like everyone else! I miss things all the time, which is why I love reading the comments. The more the better!
1) It makes sense because Mu-gak is thoughtful of Cho-rim's feelings like that.
2) I can't speak for other recappers, but I have read every single comment on every single recap of mine :)
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 2:18 PM
@ chunnie,
Oh the scriptwriter is male? Well thank you for correcting me :-) I think when I read some of the previous works he wrote, I assumed he was female. My bad. AND he is a fan of PYC? YAY!!!!!!! That's great!!!!!! One more to the club.
I have to say that he is writing the romance and comedy parts of the drama really well, as we have been saying for some time now. Maybe he grew up with a lot of women around him? Or he just has a good understanding of what women would like. Whatever the reasons might be, there are working. I am honestly hoping that he will at least be able to keep the rom-com aspects of the drama going well until the last ep.
How do you know or found out he is a fan of PYC? Now I am curious about that :-) PYC seems to be a good people-person, based on the little I have seen of him. I could see why people would like him, and like being around him.
Have you seen this? This is awesome, and so funny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly-Q5cmYF48
I just love how he goes with the flow, and how he was dancing with his co-star from I Miss You (the older actress. I love her by the way. She, with Kim Mi-kyung is one of my favorite actresses. I read on AsianWiki that she teaches as well, WOW!!!!!)
I love how he got her to dance, and then when she tripped (I think), he grabbed her (so she wouldn't fall), but then she pushed him away, LOL. I am sure PYC was not thinking anything dirty, he just wanted to steady her. And then right away, PYC just got her to dance some more. Awwwww... Who would not want to hang out with someone like that on set, while you are waiting for the next scene to be set up? I would.
I also loved it when he was dancing with a fan. He just seems to genuinely enjoy being around people. I also LOVE Song Jong-ki (sp?) for how such a great people person he is. He is another person/celebrity I would love to hang out with really, and pick his brain. OK, people like SJK, I just want to adopt into my family. I will be his noona, LOL. And we would spend hours talking (when we can). I would just love to pick their brains, about so many things...
Let me know if you have seen that video :-) You probably have :-)
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 4:25 PM
@ LollyPip,
Good to read from you again! :-) About this, "I’m just a viewer like everyone else! I miss things all the time..." I am not sure why, however I think I subconsciously assumed that recappers have some special powers, like the power to see things we don't (or a lot of it), or the power to read into the writer's mind (and/or the characters' minds, etc...) It could also be that I am just giving the recappers those kinds of powers, LOL! OK, kidding aside, it is actually refreshing to know that you guys are like us, which now that I think about it, feels like "Duh!"
About your #1 comment: yes, "MG is is thoughtful of Cho-rim’s feelings like that." You have to admit though, that was really smooth, and subtly well done, b/c as we know, not everyone thought of that. To be able to give someone what they need at the time (her being able to just cry, have a good cry), without that person asking for it, and with MG acting like it was no big deal (I mean, his car got towed, and he acted all surprised) left me VERY IMPRESSED with him, and really goes to show how much he cares for her. I was mostly (very) impressed with his attitude about the whole thing. The fact that he didn't brag about what he did, and he didn't rub it in her face either. That was what made him a sensitive man, and a thoughtful one.
2--I LOVE this "I can’t speak for other recappers, but I have read every single comment on every single recap of mine :-) " Thank you for doing that! I personally appreciate that our comments and thoughts are given so much attention. We do think A LOT about the dramas we watch, otherwise we would not be here, you know :-)
I love reading some of the theories as well, especially when some of the themes are not so simple (I am thinking the end of Faith, Liar Game [even the recapper herself would at times tell us, "OK you guys start commenting, and speculating on some of the games' rules and on what happened during those games. I am interested in reading your thoughts" She didn't say it like that, however she would let us know when sth might have been a little over her head. I remember one particular instance, and I loved that she was looking forward to our comments]. I am also thinking about some scenes in Healer as well, for example). So I love that conversations can be light, silly and funny, yet they can also be serious, elevated when the need arises, like it did here with face-blindness.
And then you have people sharing their personal stories (like @ Wag_a_Muffin in this recap), and I feel reminded that we are all just people who enjoy dramas tremendously, and are willing to congregate and discuss them, to learn from one another, pick each other brain's, have a good laugh (or a good cry), and/or have other people (who understand our love of Asian dramas) read our comments/"listen" to us and not think we are weird. It is now comforting to me, and refreshing to know that recappers get so much from the time we spent...
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 4:28 PM
@ LollyPip,
The end of my comment:
"It is now comforting to me, and refreshing to know that recappers get so much from the time we spend here as well..."
growingbeautifully
April 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM
Hi Ivoire
Since MG ended that meal with, "If you're done crying, let's go..." or something like that, it seemed quite obvious that his intentions were to let her cry. He even said in the car, about eating spicy pork hocks... so we will snivel (have runny noses) and cry.... The intent seems quite evident. :)
growingbeautifully
April 25, 2015 at 11:54 PM
Dear LollyPip
Thank you for reading every one of our comments in the recaps you do. It's a great feeling to know that our thoughts and analyses contribute interest and enjoyment to your viewership and work.
I really love that it's mutual... I would love that we make you smile and set new thoughts in motion to add to the mix as you analyze and write for us, and help us enjoy our kdrama watching more. One of the sweetest circles in the circle of life.
Hugs and good wishes and Read Ya!!! :)
chunnie
April 26, 2015 at 3:16 AM
@ivoire i can't watch the video that you linked..but i'm do know what that is all about...yeah i've watched it...i don't know if you've seen it..but in one interview,the actress kim mi kyung said that she would like song joong ki as her son-in-law becoz she wants yoochun for herself....hehehe...
Ondubu
April 25, 2015 at 1:57 PM
No he definitely chose it on purpose so she could cry to her heart's content haha. ^_^
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 2:29 PM
@ Ilovemandoo,
YAY!!!!!! MG is the very sensitive and thoughtful man we believe him to be (when he is not being petty with CR, hehehe)
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Sobia
April 25, 2015 at 8:41 AM
I was also totally in love with Dr. Chun - what a handsome man! And we only got to see him smile once.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 12:27 PM
Oh yes, Dr. Chun was a very handsome man indeed. Well, good thing the actor playing him (Song Jong-ho, sp?) is still alive :-) Maybe we will see Dr. Chun some more in some flashbacks? (One can always hope, right? :-)
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Kiara
April 25, 2015 at 3:34 PM
If you haven't seen him in Mandate of Heaven/Fugitive of Joseon then you need to watch it NOW. Read JB's recap too. I am going to re-watch it cause I'm sad that his appearance here was so short.
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SSR
April 25, 2015 at 5:37 PM
So, my MaRu killed my Red Demon?? gaaahhh... what to do, what to do T.T
Speaking of RD can someone please do a video only with him and that lilttle girl since I couldn't watch leads' awesome(!) acting!! So I can actually watch him not only read recaps!
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10 thursdaynexxt
April 25, 2015 at 4:26 AM
Jae Hee's floral shirt ... omg, he really is starting to turn into Lee Jae Kyung (the psycho serial killer villain in You From Another Star)! If he starts wearing velvet jackets, that'll
complete the transformation!
Funny about Jae Hee's prosopagnosia - for once, I actually called it back in the Ep 2 comments, and said that the serial killer might have some sensory perception/defect of his own!
His condition is pretty severe, but I wonder if it gets worse in certain situations? And how did he even have a fiancee if he couldn't recognise her? Did he, like Cho Rim, know her by her distinctive perfume? Does he share any other sensory traits with Cho Rim and Mu Gak?
Jae Hee is the most dehumanised psychokiller I've seen in a while, since his victims literally (and literarily!) have no identities, for him. He even has to create a serial number for them before he kills them. He really is a serial (code) killer, and murders by numbers!
No clue about the golden fish and lonely man - I can only think of the goldfish cake with red bean/custard filling! (then again, it could be a clue related to Mu Gak's enormous appetite!)
Thanks for the recap, LollyPip!
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Jon G.
April 25, 2015 at 4:43 AM
You don't need to recognise the face to recognise a person, especially a person you know very well. You'll still be able to recognise their voice, clothes, smell, posture, gestures, style-of-walking, etc.pp.
How often to do walk up to your spouse/friend to check if that person really has your spouse/friend's face?
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Wag_a_Muffin
April 25, 2015 at 5:06 AM
I usually recognize people through their voices.
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thursdaynexxt
April 25, 2015 at 7:20 AM
Oh, I should have clarified that I was talking about it purely as Jae Hee's condition in the drama, and as it affects the show, plot-wise. I don't know anything about prosopagnosia, so just to be clear, I'm not saying people can't have pretty normal lives while living with it - after all, 2-3% is not that uncommon.
Jae Hee's seems severe enough that people take notice of it (and maybe misinterpret it as arrogance). I'm tempted to go back and look at his dealings with Dr Chun so far - I think they mostly met alone together, or when Jae Hee was expecting to meet him. I'm still half-expecting that he could be using his condition as a cover for his activities. Time will tell.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 2:32 PM
About this, "I’m still half-expecting that he could be using his condition as a cover for his activities. Time will tell." Interesting thought... I had not thought of that.
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thursdaynexxt
April 25, 2015 at 6:10 PM
This episode really showed me that Jae Hee never does anything without a reason. And he never does anything in haste. Even when he confronted Dr Chun in the church, he just pretended to pray (!) and waited for him to run. Then he pounced. *chills*
He was also really calculating with breaking the crystal decanter and telling the lady to fire the whole team. (Man, that's cold)
On top of all that, deliberately bringing up his prosopagnosia and enlisting Cho Rim's help as his right hand gal ... why her? Sounds like an alibi to me (Quick, someone tell her that everyone around Chef Kwon ends up dead!)
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 8:08 PM
@ Thursdaynexxt,
I see... Thank you so much for explaining. You make things clearer, and you explain them well too.
thursdaynexxt
April 26, 2015 at 1:43 AM
Pure speculation on my part!
From his spotless house and attire, I'd also hazard ... OCD as well? Let's see what else we can throw in there while we're at it!
growingbeautifully
April 25, 2015 at 5:49 AM
@Thursdaynexxt
"...his victims literally (and literarily!) have no identities, for him. He even has to create a serial number for them before he kills them. He really is a serial (code) killer, and murders by numbers!"
+10 I couldn't have put it better, literally or literarily LOL!
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lovestodream
April 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM
There is a semi-related disorder delusion, Capgras delusion, that has occasionally led to extreme violence. The affected patients can recognize a person's face, but they are unable to connect the face with the emotions that would normally be associated with that recognition. So you could see someone, recognize the person as your spouse / child / true love but not feel any affection or love. The people who suffer from this disorder often think that their loved one has been replaced by an imposter, double or robot.
The delusion is sometimes caused by brain damage from stroke or injury, and is thought to be due to a decoupling of conscious and subconscious recognition. Consciously you see someone and think "Hubby!" and subconciously you think romance, love, kisses, etc. For someone with Capgras they think "Hubby!" but their subconscious doesn't ping anything, and the disconnect causes mental dissonance.
There have been a few cases where someone suffering Capgraa delusion has hurt the "double" or "robot" who was "pretending" and / or "impersonating" their loved ones.
I'm adding this because I think it's fascinating, not because I think it's what Jae Hee has. Just an interesting brain factoid!
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growingbeautifully
April 26, 2015 at 6:00 PM
@ Carrie
Interesting indeed!!!
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lovestodream
April 26, 2015 at 6:28 PM
Actually, now that I think about it, it IS slightly related. It's like at the end of episode 8, when Cho-rim tastes her mother's soup recipe. She tears up but doesn't know why. In that case her subconscious still makes the connection to her mom, love, family life, comfort, etc. But due to her memory loss, her conscious mind has no idea why she suddenly feels lonesome and wants to cry.
She's got opposite-food-related-Capgras!!
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Cocobeans
April 25, 2015 at 8:20 AM
Brad Pitt suffers from this and he has a wife and a whole horde of kids :) i guess he "sees" people the way i did before i got my contactlenzes (really bad Eyesight, without it , everyone looks like a monet Painting) from smell, voice, the way they walk, their composure ...
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 10:46 AM
@cocobeans
"Brad Pitt suffers from this.."
I didn't know this, interesting.
I like how you put it, "everyone looks like a monet Painting" haha. Really? Wow.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 2:34 PM
@ cocobeans,
I didn't know about this either, "Brad Pitt suffers from this..." Thanks for the info.
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Cocobeans
April 26, 2015 at 1:02 AM
anytime darlings and oh yes @Ivoire, i did take that cold shower. I think i personally depleted my entire town's water supply that day :)
in case anyone is interested about "face blindness" UCL has a nice website about it.Including i think a test to see to what degree ..
https://www.faceblind.org/research/index.html
* waves at all beanies *
11 chunnie
April 25, 2015 at 4:28 AM
I looooovve petty mugak...XD
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 4:40 AM
I love him too. He is so cute and adorable when he is like that. He doesn't want to let CR get away with anything, LOL!
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 10:48 AM
Petty Mu-gak is growing on many of us, I can see, lol
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 2:35 PM
Yes he is... :-)
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iana
April 25, 2015 at 4:41 PM
omo.. if this is a twitter, I would like to retweet almost of comments here. lol very well said :)
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 6:12 PM
@ iana, Thank you! :-)
12 Wag_a_Muffin
April 25, 2015 at 5:06 AM
I have prosopagnosia. (I commented about this in open thread, #4.)
And yeah, facial features don't "swim" around when I don't recognize them. But it's believable that I could see someone and then forget what they looked like. (I explained this though a traumatic experience that happened ot me.)
I really don't know how a drama would portray this any more realistically though.
(Oh, and I promise. I'm not a serial killer.)
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growingbeautifully
April 25, 2015 at 5:35 AM
LOL! @Wag_a_Muffin
I am relieved!!! :)
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thursdaynexxt
April 25, 2015 at 7:39 AM
Let me put it this way: do you have a nail ring, and a habit of asking after people's health? :)
(By the way, I checked out your OT comments. Thanks for sharing your story and explaining what prosopagnosia's like in RL.)
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Cocobeans
April 25, 2015 at 8:22 AM
aaaw..not even a little bit psycho? i feel so alone .. :p just kidding..sort off. big huggs to you wags
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 10:52 AM
@cocobeans
You psycho?
Stay away from me!
LOL!
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 10:51 AM
LOL! I love your last sentence, phew, what a relief!
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 10:56 AM
@Wag_a_muffin
It's good to hear from somebody like you who actually suffers from the same prosopagnosia and willing to share your stories with the readers here.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 2:40 PM
@ @Wag_a_muffin,
Yes, thank you so much for sharing your story with us. I will have to go on OT to read more about your story. I too am relieved that you are not a serial killer.
And @ Thursdaynexxt, @ cocobeans and @ Neutral, you guys are funny. I loved the line/meta about "how is your health" from YFAS. Oh, those were good commenting days, on that drama's recaps :-)
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13 Hillary Henderson
April 25, 2015 at 5:24 AM
Loved this episode! Did anyone else notice how MG's face dropped and he tossed a shoe when Cho Rim giggled that he wasn't her boyfriend? It's small nuances like these that make me love this show!
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Giegie
April 25, 2015 at 5:38 AM
I did notice too! His smile disappeared. Poor Mugakkie. ^^
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kiwichan
April 25, 2015 at 5:53 AM
me noticed too! he is actually happy to hear that until CR denied and he tossed a shoe. LOL! the way he changed his expression before and after are too priceless! too adorbs and I swear I repeat that scene many times ^^
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 11:00 AM
@Hillary
Oh, rest assured, many of us noticed that, lol
"It’s small nuances like these that make me love this show!" and the CMG, lol
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 2:42 PM
Well said, @ Neutral! I 2nd everything you said :-)
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14 TJ
April 25, 2015 at 5:48 AM
I love this couple. They are so cute together I'd almost be tempted to ship them in real life if I were a crazy type drama fan. I'm also very happy for Nam Gong min. Until now he was shaping up to be one of the best looking but boring 2nd lead actors in drama history. I believe he may have found a niche for himself, the icy emotionless villain. Certainly the bland stick in the mud boyfriend was getting old and his turn on WGM didn't do much to dispel that image. While the drama is all the great cute things we've described it's also turning out to a great choice of casting.
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 11:04 AM
@TJ
Cutest couple, how not to love?
"shaping up to be one of the best looking but boring 2nd lead actors in drama history."
LOL! I'm trying to put myself into NGM's shoes now, should I take this as a compliment or what? Because best looking is definitely a compliment, haha.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 6:18 PM
@ Neutral,
You are so funny! I love reading your comments :-) And @ TJ, I agree with what you have said, especially the great choice in casting part.
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TJ
April 25, 2015 at 8:32 PM
Sure it's a compliment. I've always thought he was good looking. Those abs jeez. That smooth deep voice, but he's as bland as yesterday's mashed potatoes. I thought it was just the roles he played. Then I watched a few episodes of We Got Married. He's either the greatest actor in Korea and can stay in constipated boyfriend mode when faced with an adorable sexy woman like Hong Jin young or he's got the actual personality of a pet rock.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 11:09 PM
@ TJ,
Could it be that he didn't want to come across as too aggressive on TV? Maybe he feels that he has an image to maintain? It seems that many of those celebrities feel that way...
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15 bleef
April 25, 2015 at 5:51 AM
I LOVED IT when, on the amusement ride, he pulled her in to him and she responded by leaning into his embrace so naturally.
SO ADORABLE :333
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kecik
April 25, 2015 at 6:20 AM
I would like to watch behind the scene of our OTP not-a-date.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 6:19 PM
+ 1 :-)
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16 miricia
April 25, 2015 at 5:54 AM
Can't wait for the next recap! Show is getting more interesting
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17 lc
April 25, 2015 at 5:57 AM
Does anyone get food envy from watching the OTP and this show? They've had bbq meat, fried chicken, organic chicken soup (my mouth fairly watered at the steaming soup and the chick) and now spicy pork hocks (never heard of it until now).
I'm not sure whether all these restaurant scenes are common in kdramas, but I don't mind, they seem to be a more natural form of product placement than the usual smartphones and whatnot.
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patinalee
April 25, 2015 at 6:06 AM
Re food envy.
You haven't watch 'Let's Eat', have you? Season 2 currently airing. Try giving it a spin. :-)
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kecik
April 25, 2015 at 6:23 AM
Watching Yoochun's eating broadcast always make me hungry....
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lc
April 25, 2015 at 10:14 AM
Haha, thanks @patinalee for the recommendation. To answer my own question, I think it's not the food but the companionship that was developed from the eating together that gives me the food envy.
I like that something is happening each time they sit together at the eating table - practicing a skit, Mugak and Cho Rim's give and take over the bbq meat, Cho Rim gelling together with Mugak's colleagues, Mugak letting Cho Rim cry through eating spicy pork hocks. It makes whatever they're having so desirable because I also want to join in the fun.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 6:23 PM
I get you, @ lc. I have both envies: the food, and the companionship, and you explained them so well. I wonder if they told PYC when they approached him with this role, "Oh by the way, you will be eating a lot, in this drama. Make sure you come hungry." (Unless PYC naturally likes to eat a lot) :-)
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18 Giegie
April 25, 2015 at 6:37 AM
I loved this episode! Full of cuteness from Mu-gak & Cho-rim & creepiness from Jae-hee. He is one smart killer and he's getting creepier (& hotter) every episode. I must admit though that I was distracted by the killer's killer abs while I was watching, not that I am complaining. :D
No idea about the goldfish & the lonely man but RIP Dr. Chun.
Thank you LollyPip for the recap. ^^
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19 Rigby
April 25, 2015 at 6:52 AM
Oh I am loving the OTP, I am a fan of PYC but not of SSK, but on this, i became an instant fan! She should be doing light drama and comedy more. Love their chemistry!
Btw, 1 or 2?
Reminds me of Healer's East or West? hahaha....
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patinalee
April 25, 2015 at 7:01 AM
Though in Healer there're REALLY options - talk time or 10 seconds hug. Not here though. :-)
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Giegie
April 25, 2015 at 7:02 AM
@rigby
Hello ate! ^^
I am loving MuRim couple too. They are just adorable.
Yay, I was going to comment (but I forgot) about how 1 or 2 reminded me of Healer's East or West! And Mugak's "waeee" (the gentle/second one) when ChoRim called him.
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Rigby
April 27, 2015 at 8:00 AM
@ giegie
Hellow kapatid! Yes, after Changmin, MuRim is my next fave OTP for this year! Loving them so much!
@ivoire
Hello my dear, waves to you! I missed all your wonderful comments and dissection in our google account, that's why i was glad reading all your conments above regarding this funny and entertaining drama!
@GB
how are you unni? I missed you as well!
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Ivoire
May 4, 2015 at 12:58 PM
@ rigby,
Awwww unnie, *Waves back at you* Thank you for saying that, though I don't know if you will see this comment. I am glad you enjoyed reading my comments :-)
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 2:52 PM
Hello guys, (all three of you),
I guess many of us (who watched Healer) thought of the West or East question. I commented on that above, I had not had the opportunity to read you guys' comments yet. But it is all good, right? :-)
And @ Giegie, I noticed this too, "And Mugak’s “waeee” (the gentle/second one) when ChoRim called him," and thought of CYS and Healer, in ep12, when she wanted to take his hand, and he gently said "wae?" Was that what you were thinking about?
Question: In this ep., does MG say "wae?" to CR earlier? (before the 2nd one?) Where is that? I must have missed it.
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growingbeautifully
April 26, 2015 at 1:03 AM
@ Rigby, @ Patinalee, @Giegie, @ Ivoire
Hey gals! I really liked the choice of "1 or 2?" because it gave the illusion that there would be 2 options, when actually the questioner had decided on just one (and in MG's case, he chose the most appropriate one thing) to offer the other. It's especially sweet that it's reciprocal.
MG decided that CR needed a cry so his 1 or 2 would still be spicy pork hocks... CR decided MG needed to eat after a long day and like it or not she was going to feed him tuna rolls! So cute.
@ Ivoire, the 2nd 'Wae' was immediately after the first 'Wae' when CR called MG and asked him to choose 1 or 2. She complained that the first thing he said was 'Wae' (and probably because he used an impatient tone). So he repeated his "Wae" but in a sweeter tone. :)
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Ivoire
May 4, 2015 at 1:02 PM
@ GB,
Oh, thank you for letting me know, about the 2nd "wae." and about this, "and probably because he used an impatient tone)." I listened to it, and his 2nd "wae" was kind of short, and a little brusque maybe, but not impatient.
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20 Cielo
April 25, 2015 at 7:08 AM
Just when I thought this couple couldn't get any cuter, they just raised up the ante ...effortlessly, at that. Oh mhen, I soooo love them and just savour every moment of their screen time together. I know at this early that Murim couple would be way up there as my fave OTPs of all time. Awww, what not to like? My fave in this epi aside from the pseudo date is when he took her out to eat just so she could cry to her heart's content and be there for her. How sweet, my heart was warmly moved. And on the extreme, that was one intense but smooth unveiling of how the Chef operates. Twas chilling and I was watching unblinking for most of the time as it unravels. The ending, totally unexpected... a real cliffhanger, even if we know MG won't die. ^^
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 11:15 AM
@Cielo
"I know at this early that Murim couple would be way up there as my fave OTPs of all time."
Good to see people sharing same thoughts with me, this is me exactly, haha. High 5! :D
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Cielo
April 25, 2015 at 7:15 PM
High five! I've seen all of Chun's dramas and though I've shipped him with YEH before, I think am liking him more with SSK. Must be because this drama is more fun and enjoyable. Hope this won't be their last pairing, am I wishing too soon? Lol!
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kiwichan
April 25, 2015 at 5:34 PM
yes, it is fortunately I assumed everyone here already watched ep8.. imagine if we read this recap before ep.8 airing, i'm pretty sure we got different kind of comments here^^
My thoughts when I watch the ending, I was shivering, didnt expect he will stab our hero and I have to applause the one who arranged the background music and OST. the OST during MG been stabbed by Chef JH is just perfect! my tears just naturally drop without forcing coz I care for our hero, care for our OTP so so so much but I am so scared of chef JH!
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21 Chloe
April 25, 2015 at 7:44 AM
How does Cho Rim afford such a gorgeous red Dior bag working as a stagehand...unless it's fake, of course. just like her sunglasses!
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 2:58 PM
@ Chloe,
Don't you know that the Kdrama heroines are always fashionable? :-) No matter how poor they might be (or struggling with many jobs). Yeah, that could be a fake (good thinking), and can I say, "PPL?"
I was always impressed with how many (good looking) coats and jackets CYS had in Healer. I mean, that girl looked like she seriously owned 1/2 a store of expensive and nice looking jackets and coats. She changed them constantly, not that she didn't look good in them. But, she was a 3 rate reporter, and she was not a chaebol daughter (that we knew of). Again, can I say PPL? B/c they sure got my attention.
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Cocobeans
April 26, 2015 at 1:45 AM
i envy them, i usally wear the same things..a lot. i just started adding new stuff to my wardrobe after i noticed on fb pictures from the past 3 years that i almost always have the same jackets etc on.. It's like time froze. I want a fake designer bag too! a guggi, (can't afford Gucci ) or a louis plancton and a hermees ;)
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dramadreamer
May 19, 2015 at 8:20 PM
i loved CR's camouflag bomber jacket!!! wonder which designer ? haha. ok, finally i meet people who have the same thoughts on the wardrobes!!! even MG looks fashionable haha
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22 evw09
April 25, 2015 at 7:50 AM
Thus far, this show really embraces what Korean dramas do so masterfully; which is, present interesting and unique stories to women and men alike. At the heart of this drama it's about a serial killer who, with a few exceptions, is indiscriminately killing people. But writer has laced through a ridiculously cute budding love story that makes you forget the horror that's surrounding them and its impending danger. It's this skill that allows a stereotypical hegemonic man and a woman with delicate sensibilities to watch the same show and both be equally entertained.
As far as critique for this show, I'm leery about the writer going the direction of Pinocchio, meaning failure to carry the serial killer's plot far enough into the series and not maintaining the same intensity. I'm huge fan of Pinocchio but I felt the writer did the show a disservice by not utilizing the hyung's story more. I'd hate to see the same occur here.
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Akira
April 25, 2015 at 10:26 AM
I am wondering about the pacing too. I love how it's going so far, but now with the reveal of the Big Bad + close encounters, I wonder how the Show is going to carry the tension through for another 8 episodes without having the police look even more incompetent than they already seem.
I have hope that the writer will surprise me, but honestly am pretty leery.
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23 lemonie
April 25, 2015 at 7:52 AM
yc really improved so much post seafog
i am so proud of him
i am really happy shin se kyungs career is on an upswing now
she deserves it! adorable bubbly cho rim <3
i really want pyc to sing for the ost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY7wWGgi8LA
i saw this and did a bit of swooning
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lemonie
April 25, 2015 at 7:54 AM
sekshii smoky voice chunface <3 pls sing for cho rim
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freshmint
April 25, 2015 at 11:21 AM
@lemonie
Beautiful song.
"i really want pyc to sing for the ost"
WHY NOT?
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Anna
April 25, 2015 at 3:26 PM
OH WOW. This is such an ear-gasm for me! *blushes* I didn't know Yoo Chun's singing voice could be this deep and husky and he sings with so much emotion I am very much moved by it although I can't understand a single japanese word. I had my earphones on listening to the song and felt like he was whispering behind me. Hahaha. I think I'm gonna go hunt for more Yoo Chun singing videos on YT. I know he's an idol but really wasn't expecting at all that he would have such a swoon-worthy voice.
He really should sing at least 1 song for the OST.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 6:37 PM
OK, you guys made me curious. I will have to listen to him sing later.
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lemonie
April 25, 2015 at 6:58 PM
even though he was in an idol group
his idol group was famous for being the boyband that could really sing especially acapella.
like boyz ii men
i am not really fond of their korean songs but the old japanese songs are love <3
this is one of my faves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrPhZF9pRl0
thank me for the eargasm later
excuse YC's hideous hair. he doesnt really care about his appearance that much -____-
as a fan i have gotten used to it
he is famous for his flip flop fashion. and he's probably the only leading man in kdrama without a six pack.
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miricia
April 25, 2015 at 7:41 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ixGe024zLIA
Also, try listening to this, this is my favorite song from him.
His voice is osm ♥
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 7:48 PM
Thank you guys! @ miricia, what is "osm?" please...
miricia
April 25, 2015 at 8:39 PM
Osm is abbreviation of awesome. LOL.
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 11:13 PM
@ miricia: Oh OK, thank you for explaining!
Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 8:04 PM
@ lemonie, Hi again,
Good to read from you guys, and thank you for another posting of PYC goodness. This had me literally LOL:
"excuse YC's hideous hair. he doesnt really care about his appearance that much -____-
as a fan i have gotten used to it
he is famous for his flip flop fashion. and he's probably the only leading man in kdrama without a six pack."
Have you noticed that he also LOVES (or seems to love) cut off jeans? He wore them in RTP, and he wore them at the end of ep.8, when he was waiting for CR (he was so cute during that scene).
And about his lack of 6 pack, yeah, I have noticed. It was so glaring in RTP (the scene in the elevator, LOL). I felt embarrassed for him, since we have been accustomed to seeing that now, from male leads in Kdramas. I guess he must not care, he looks tall and thin, so that works, right?! It was so glaring to see that the 2nd male lead in RTP (the bad guy) was more "buffed up" than him (one could tell). But we still like him anyways :-)
I loved that you said it though, and how you said it. Because it is so true. That is personally what I love about him: I don't think he is drop dead gorgeous (though it depends on his hair cut. I loved his hair cut on Three Days), but then again, I don't think he has had plastic surgery (or a lot of it) like some of the Ken-like looking actors have, and I like that about him. It makes him more relatable, more approachable, more like us in a way. I hope he does not care to much about those things, though it is hard not too, in that industry, and their image IS part of their livehood (to get CF's, etc...) Hopefully his feet are firmly planted on the ground.
The only thing I am not crazy about: he smokes, and he has asthma. Not good for his health, and for his vocal chords. But of well... He has to make those hard choices, when he is ready I guess... Thank you again for sharing the videos (and your comments), I will watch them soon :-) (and I will thank you then :-) )
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lemonie
April 25, 2015 at 9:03 PM
re 1 pack: he is lucky. he gets away with it because he naturally has v. broad shoulders so even though he's skinny he looks manly. :p
IA with everything you said
BedeliaJane
April 25, 2015 at 10:43 PM
Hi Ivoire,
I learn a lot about PYC from you! Thanks, and do share more! :)
I agree with your plastic surgery comment. I only knew that he had fixed his teeth. His 'old' teeth seemed fine to me actually.
LOL at this Rooftop Prince elevator scene (I don't like his hair in Rooftop Prince, both the long & short):
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm96/javabeans122/drama/2012/rooftop/roof1/roof3-00107.jpg
You make me wanna check out 3 Days. Oh, so no kissing scene there huh...
Ivoire
May 4, 2015 at 1:23 PM
@ BedeliaJane,
Nope, no kissing scene in Three Days, but I really liked that drama. It is one of my favorite ones. It's different though, so you need to like the political and economical themes in movies and dramas to appreciate it. The acting is good, and there are some good action scenes as well. PYC has great chemistry with everyone, and though the plot is completely tight, I still really liked the drama.
Ivoire
May 4, 2015 at 1:14 PM
@ lemonie,
I actually do like his hair in that video. Flip flop fashion, meaning?
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Maxene
April 26, 2015 at 5:36 AM
Getting stitches watching this very funny and adorable Moo Gak and then seeing and listening to this swoon-worthy man singing Saiai, dear I am bowled over! I did more than just a bit of swooning haha! They are the same man huh!? It's a crime to not let him sing at least one song for the OST. What ever are they thinking?
Park Yuchun has perfected the art of deadpanning. And the way he switch faces is just really impressive. It seems he has a natural facial repertoire.
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24 miiko
April 25, 2015 at 8:46 AM
and moogak throws the shoes when chorim says he is not her boyfriend,, so cute!!
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25 Yuki
April 25, 2015 at 9:23 AM
Maybe this show has its flaws, but it has so many good things to compensate for it that I do not care. My favorite points:
- Yoo Chun, great acting and adorable as always
- They build romantic tension in a natural way, two persons that feel attraction and are getting closer (in such a cute way). No need for 2nd, 3rd or 4th leads or misunderstandings to create a desire to see them together.
- The police are actually smart. They make me feel that they could catch the killer by their own merits XD (though I know most likely it will be at the end of the series...)
Of course there are other things that I like, the comedy is good, and yeah, surprisingly Shin Se Kyung is perfect for the role. :D
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM
@Appelsin
"They build romantic tension in a natural way, two persons that feel attraction and are getting closer (in such a cute way). No need for 2nd, 3rd or 4th leads or misunderstandings to create a desire to see them together."
This is a breath of fresh air, I like it.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 6:38 PM
Me three... :-)
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blueribbon
April 25, 2015 at 11:48 AM
And the best part, well at least for me, no existing second leads. Since one of them is a killer and the other we rarely see.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 6:39 PM
I like that too...
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26 BedeliaJane
April 25, 2015 at 9:34 AM
Chorim's friend Aeri is awesome! Her scenes with Mugak were great too, with him dropping his handcuffs when she asked him if he believed her, and then her pleading puppy eyes! And she sure knows how not to be the 3rd wheel.
Some of the Mu-gak scenes that I love (besides the kiss & girlfriend-comment thing):
- Mugak saw his car being towed but decided not to do anything about it
- Mugak took a big bite of his ice cream (haha! Also reminded me of how he bit the mint candy in ep 2)
- The first 'photo shoot' of their not-so-date. He's all serious but instantly became so adorable during the photo-taking!
- The way he and Chorim stood, with their arms folded, at the police station. They're really partners in (fighting) crime!
- The 2 'waes' in the tuna kimbab conversation
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kecik
April 25, 2015 at 10:47 AM
I knew Yoochun will do well with romcom drama after watching him played as a crown prince that love sweet drinks and food. <3
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 3:24 PM
@ BedeliaJane,
I love all that you said. So true. And I too, love CR's friend. She is so smart, and she knows what she sees (even before CR sees it), and she knows when it is her time to take her leave. I really loved her in Angel Eyes as well. She was so funny there, like she is here. I loved how she was encouraging CR and MG to be together (how she was gesturing to CR, as she was leaving).
I will have to go rewatch that kimbap conversation, to catch the 1st "wae." I loved the way he said it the 2nd time, so softly and gently.
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27 dramabird
April 25, 2015 at 9:39 AM
I think one of the creepiest moments for me was when he deliberately dropped the crystal decanter off the counter to manipulate the situation regarding the moving truck. It totally demonstrates how much of a “puppet master” he is… deftly manipulating all the people around him! Such a small little movement and he was totally in control of the situation.
Also, my theory about the barcodes is they are a way of permanently marking people in a way he is able to recognize.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 6:43 PM
@ Celina,
So he used the moving truck that that kitchenware company brought (to move Dr. Chun's car to the fishing pond)? I watched the drama raw, so although I saw that scene, I was not totally sure of what happened there.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 7:45 PM
Oh, I think I got the answer to that. Never mind then...
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Cocobeans
April 26, 2015 at 1:22 AM
i like the clues the docter gave, "the goldfish meets the lonely man".Those books.
There is this myth that goldfish only have a 3 sec memory span (not true btw) so he refers to Cho Rim as the goldfish becaus she only has the memory of the last 3 years.
As for the hermit, i looked at that book, it's about a guy who get an inheritance and goes to live in a luxurious appartement but only observes life but never really "joins in" .
He eats his meals at the same place at the same time every day.Does the same routine every day.
I noticed chef too has a thing for "timing",placing the meals down at exactely 12 or 6 0'clock. Often you see them zoom in at the clocks.
They did a good job with making those book references
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28 BedeliaJane
April 25, 2015 at 9:59 AM
I've watched Park Yuchun in SKK Sandal & Rooftop Prince, and I'd say I like him best here in this drama, and I like Shin Sekyung best with him. For those of you who have watched more of his works, what's your opinion, ie, which one is his best work and who's his best leading lady? Oh, and his best kiss is with whom? Hehehe
I've only watched Sekyung in a few eps of Fashion King. Not much impression of her then. But for variety shows, I saw her in the Running Man ep (with Cha Taehyun) and also the recent ep (with Lt Yeom). Not bad.
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Feliss
April 25, 2015 at 11:39 AM
Yep, i think Shin Se Kyung is one of the best leading ladies with him too! Though her hairstyle could have been better, I hope they could give her a more gorgeous hairstyle one or two episodes.
I have watched SungKyungKwan scandal, meh. I don't like Park Min Young cos her acting is all the same. I've first watched her in City hunter, and she's great with LMH and that's it. All other shows I watched, she's always acting the same cute, lil clumsy girl next door (City hunter, SKK scandal, Man of honor). Which is enough for me to stay away from her for the next few years. I don't even want to watch Healer cos of her, even though i read raving reviews about the show.
Rooftop prince was great! Han Ji Min acted v well with Park Yuchun, the tension and yearnings were very well carried out and portrayed! I was in withdrawal syndrome for a long time. But their age gap was too much for me to ship them in real life.
Missing You was another great show. Yoon Eun Hye, you know you could trust her to deliver. But I've watched some of the BTS and they don't seem to interact much off-screen, i'm a lil sad about it. She seemed someone who's quite distant, hard to get close. But I may be wrong.
ANDD FINALLY, I like Yuchun best in Rooftop prince and Missing You! He is doing great in this drama, though I was hoping he would show more emotions and warm up more!!!! His expression is too serious many times, (yeah okay he is NOT supposed to feel emotions), but I miss the goofy Yuchun.
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growingbeautifully
April 26, 2015 at 12:02 AM
@ Feliss
I felt the same way about SSK... well almost... I was wondering if I wanted to watch a show with her in it. Now that I have, I've no regrets!
As for PMY. In Healer, I forget that she's PMY, which is great! She is unlike what she was in City Hunter. This may be considered quite a tribute, since it is the mark of a good actor/actress that they can make us forget who they are in real life, or how they were in another show, by creating a new/distinct character and being consistent in that role. :)
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29 niyati
April 25, 2015 at 10:02 AM
I cannot talk about out OTP yet they are too cute for me to even try being coherent, Awwwwwww <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 :D :D :D :D :D :D $%^*$#^&*(*&^% (there I go again!!!) so let me focus on what I like 2nd best about this drama!
Its been a very long time since I encountered a Villain who is not one-dimensional and/or with singular motivations. Also its weird but I do find his creepy smarts really hot especially when he's being evil. I figure I can be excused as he's fictional?
Also on the prosopagnosia front I have very little understanding of the condition but I love the way it's being portrayed/incorporated in(to) the storyline. I mean it made NO sense in the previous episode when we found out the meaning of the barcodes and how he had books of/about his victims. Seemed like a very weird signature to me (avid Criminal Minds fan here). But with an inability to recognize faces, it makes sense for him to have compiled lots of information on them. Notice how his compilation on his dead GF was much larger than the others, probably because he knew her longer and/or better [its addition of little details like that, that makes me love this drama so much]
The drama has employed this technique repeatedly before, showing something non-sensical and then have it make sense in later episodes. So I have high hopes that the Lonely man - golden fish comment makes sense later, because it's being played as a clue, and since the doctor knows knows that the chef is the barcode killer, why leave behind any clue for him to find? And he did leave it behind for the killer seeing as he spoke directly into the camera for the person keeping him captive.
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 11:35 AM
@Niyati
I like how you described what you like best about this drama lol
"The drama has employed this technique repeatedly before, showing something non-sensical and then have it make sense in later episodes."
While watching this series, how many times have you go wt* and later on say; ahh, so this is why, it all make sense now, haha.
Honestly, everybody should try watch this show spoiler-free and "live", if possible. That's what I do, and I'm enjoying every minute of it.
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 11:36 AM
*it all makes sense
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niyati
April 26, 2015 at 2:47 AM
@Neutral "While watching this series, how many times have you go wt* and later on say; ahh, so this is why, it all make sense now, haha.".. So many times I have lost count!
Its a bit like Harry Potter for me. In that random details you see several episodes earlier become relevant much later. For example how several commenters posted earlier that our killer does seem to take a lil longer than normal to recognize people when he meets them. This has been happening since the beginning and only now does it make sense. This is a technique called foregrounding and you don't get to see it often in dramas. And not only does the show have excellent fore gounding, but it doesnot rush the reveals..
As for describing what I love the most about this drama.. It's all I can manage thus far. I must say, I have at this point watched the next episode. I won't give out spoilers but I have to say too much cute!! Waayy too cute. I'm on cutness overload! $*$#$(@&*())^%$#@^&*(!!!!!
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30 Calzeralzer
April 25, 2015 at 11:11 AM
I am in love with the OTP. Their not-a-date was pretty adorable. I especially loved how disappointed Mu Gak was when Cho Rim clarified that he wasn't her boyfriend and he threw the shoe. I like that they are gradually growing closer and we get to see their relationship every step of the way!
I am impressed that this drama that is pretty lighthearted could also creep me out. I am a fan of shows with crazy killers but there is something about this one. I think everything is coming together with his character, like why he killed the wrong girl and why he uses bar codes on his victims. But there is still a lot of mystery surrounding his motives. All his victims are totally random and it seems like he just picks people at random. I am interested to see if it is every revealed why he chooses who he chooses. Also it is crazy how executed his plan to dispose of the body. He is intelligent and very good looking and also a psychopath and his character fascinates me!
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 6:52 PM
Hum... I still don't understand why he uses barcodes on the victims.
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growingbeautifully
April 26, 2015 at 12:13 AM
@ Ivoire
My guesses as to why the killer use barcodes on victims:
- He finds barcodes easier to identify than faces.
- He has a need to objectify his victims and since he has chosen books as the object and books come with ISBNs that identify them, and ISBNs are coded as barcodes... that's why he uses barcodes.
In the Ep 6 recap @Plainsight gave us an informative comment on the webtoon upon which this show is based, which I quote partially ... "In the comic, the killer doesn’t cut barcodes into the victim’s wrist but is instead called the “Collector” for hiding the victim ... and giving the victim 3-6 days to write their whole life of events into a book. .... The “Collector” basically gets an emotional release from collecting books of other people’s lives and relives the stories in his mind because his life was a mess ..."
- He just likes cutting!!! :D
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31 wackycashew
April 25, 2015 at 11:22 AM
Thanks for the recap, LollyPip!
Really enjoying Mugak and Chorim's romantic development! This ep has so much overflowing cuteness, and yes, petty MG is hilarious. I also love his sensitive side to let CR cry over spicy food and let his car get towed away. And yay for the "date" and "investigation kiss"! Teehee~
Jaehee is so meticulous in his murder and evidence disposal, calculating the timing to have his solid alibi. Definitely chilling to see that he is so cold, not only towards victims but people in general: who cares about those workers who get fired as long as I can keep the truck to move the dead body? -_-;; His face-blindness was a surprise but definitely makes sense now to his delayed reactions when greeting people from earlier episodes.
Anyway, seems like JH is starting to do more and more unexpected things now because more clues are surfacing... First, the car with Mari and now the stabbing with MG. Would be interesting to see how he will eventually get caught.
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Neutral
April 25, 2015 at 11:48 AM
@Lisa
"Anyway, seems like JH is starting to do more and more unexpected things now because more clues are surfacing… First, the car with Mari and now the stabbing with MG."
People are questioning as to why Dr Chun chose to reveal to Chef Kwon that the witness is still alive, when he knows very well that he's the serial killer. I'm wondering, can this be Dr Chun's intention too, to lure him out from his comfort zone, to break him off from his usual routine, to force him to do the unexpected, only then can his actions be flawed. I'm curious to see what's in store.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 6:56 PM
@ Neutral,
About this, "People are questioning as to why Dr Chun chose to reveal to Chef Kwon that the witness is still alive, when he knows very well that he’s the serial killer. I’m wondering, can this be Dr Chun’s intention too, to lure him out from his comfort zone, to break him off from his usual routine, to force him to do the unexpected, only then can his actions be flawed. I’m curious to see what’s in store."
Really good thinking. I was thinking along the same lines of what you wrote.
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wackycashew
April 25, 2015 at 7:36 PM
@Neutral
I was wondering about this as well. You have a good point. I guess as much as Dr. Chun wants to protect Chorim, he also realizes that Jaehee has to get caught before more victims fall... Maybe letting Jaehee know the witness is alive will prompt him to break his pattern and leave trails. Also, Dr. Chun was probably planning to tell Mugak about Chorim being the witness when he found out that Mugak's sister had been wrongly murdered.
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growingbeautifully
April 26, 2015 at 12:16 AM
Hmm... I'm wracking my brain, but I cannot recall a scene where Doc Chun tells Chef Kwon that the witness is alive. Where is this?
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32 karen
April 25, 2015 at 12:11 PM
Thanks for the lovely recap. loving the story progress ... they make cute couple. This episode shined on Cho Rim never really liked her , but opinions kind of change :) But feel direction can be better in few scenes to make few scenes more memorable ... seeing this episode makes me think Mickey has the charm to make the opposite lead shine just the way he shines ... like min young. Totally loving it !!
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freshmint
April 25, 2015 at 12:24 PM
@karen
Mickey is the mouse, Micky is the Yoochun! :D
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freshmint
April 25, 2015 at 12:25 PM
@karen
"seeing this episode makes me think Mickey has the charm to make the opposite lead shine just the way he shines … like min young. Totally loving it !!"
Agree.
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meh
April 25, 2015 at 1:00 PM
He even saved them from their slump actually. I notice even though his dramas did not do excellent in rating nor it got crazily popular, but they all have similarities, that are his female leads are never top stars or popular, and they was having a slump before being in the dramas with him. Like PMY even admitted herself that she was in a slump and didn't know what to do with her career after I am Sam. Or like HJM who was totally forgettable in her past dramas before RTP, YEH's LTM recorded around 5%, and SSK was said to be untreatable from bad acting disease. But right after SKKS, RTP, both PMY and HJM got so popular (and HJM got into a slump again after RTP), and IMY was the only drama of YEH in 5 years that got above 10% rating, and SSK is now so loved.... maybe it is not entirely Yoochun's deeds or sth because for SSK, I acknowledge she is more suitable for romcom , but maybe it is also partially his contribution...
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iana
April 25, 2015 at 4:54 PM
+10, I just know about it. I agree. Yoochun has that kind of charm. Idk how to describe it but I read that he mentioned before how he excited to act with ssk, he must know ssk casting get much critic meanwhile he swipe all the new actor award for haemoo. he also even update his weibo with the drink from SSK's fansupport and encouraging her that award will be hers. meanwhile himself got so so so many fansupports and didn't post it. I like the way he is so humble and care for his colead. such a good partner. he's not shine for his own.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 7:03 PM
@ iana,
Thank you! You just confirmed what I wrote in this recap, and last week, about what I seem to see and sense from PYC (since I don't know him). And that makes me think that I have been on to something. I am usually right, about what I see in people, when I try to read them, but one never knows, since again, I don't know those celebrities.
This confirmed it for me though "he also even update his weibo with the drink from SSK’s fansupport and encouraging her that award will be hers. meanwhile himself got so so so many fansupports and didn’t post it. I like the way he is so humble and care for his colead. such a good partner. he’s not shine for his own."
Thank you for writing and sharing that, really!
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33 Gaelicmaiden
April 25, 2015 at 12:20 PM
Add me to the "This couple is too cute!" crowd. So far they are in 2nd place for my fave Kdrama couple of 2015 (edging out the couple of "Heart to Heart", but falling behind that of "Healer").
I also loved MG when he tossed the shoe, but how funny would it have been if he interrupted CR's denial and gave his opinion like he WAS her boyfriend? I could also see him "noticing" that the pic of them kissing didn't quite match the original and they'd have to do it again cause, dammit, it's for justice!
WRT the evil chef, the one thing I don't understand is him accidentally killing MG's sis instead of CR. I get that he has face blindness, but you would think if he knew he had to dispose of a very specific person, he would have taken a few extra seconds to make sure it was them, cause if they survived he could be screwed. Does that make sense?
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 7:06 PM
@ Gaelicmaiden,
I loved this, "I also loved MG when he tossed the shoe, but how funny would it have been if he interrupted CR’s denial and gave his opinion like he WAS her boyfriend? I could also see him “noticing” that the pic of them kissing didn’t quite match the original and they’d have to do it again cause, dammit, it’s for justice!"
Why didn't we have that? :-( That would have been hilarious!
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34 Lilly
April 25, 2015 at 1:04 PM
Wow, this drama has become a perfect combination of cute comedy and thriller. Chef Kwon creeps me out... and the music and sounds are great for each scary scene!
And Mu Gak is precious... where can I also find a guy who does't care his car is towed while being with his sad girlfriend? Considering that usually the car is a man's pride, the fact he let it pass, shows how much he already loves Cho Rim.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 7:10 PM
@ Lilly,
About this, "And Mu Gak is precious… where can I also find a guy who doesn’t care if his car is towed while being with his sad girlfriend? Considering that usually the car is a man’s pride, the fact he let it pass, shows how much he already loves Cho Rim."
So true!!!!! And about finding someone like that? Errr... Get in line (join the club), we started one, by the way :-)
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35 Ennayra
April 25, 2015 at 1:14 PM
I'm so sad that Song Jong-ho's doctor character was killed off. Hoping that he left enough clues behind to completely screw over our killer chef.
So was that really Nam Goongmin hanging upside down with fabulous abs, or was that a body double?!
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 7:12 PM
@ Ennayra,
I think that it was NGM hanging upside down. The people on Soompi posted pictures of how it was done.
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36 Ondubu
April 25, 2015 at 2:05 PM
This drama is seriously soo cute!! I loved the scene where MG and CR were on the amusement park ride. Their chemistry is definitely making this drama infinitely better.
That being said, I did have some questions while watching this episode:
- Why did Chef Kwon stab MG? If it were to get rid of MG, why didn't he just finish him off?
- If CR is able to see when people are lying, how come she doesn't know that her dad is not her biological one? (Or maybe she does suspect him and this hasn't yet been showed on screen?) And I also wonder if she's ever questioned why there are no pictures of her / possessions from before three years ago.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 7:13 PM
@ Ilovemandoo, good questions...
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Cocobeans
April 26, 2015 at 1:29 AM
aah when in doubt..you can Always blame everything on a house fire.
"oh darn, we got out safe but our family albums were roasted..let make a lot of selfies on social networks to avoid this in the future" :)
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pastmidnite
April 26, 2015 at 4:00 AM
@Ilovemandoo
About CR able to see when people are lying but not knowing that her dad is not her biological dad, maybe she noticed that her dad is lying but she doesn't know WHAT he's lying about. Why would she even think that her dad is not her real dad?
Or maybe because he's been lying his whole life (while living with CR as his fake daughter that is), then his "smell" must've been always the same color/shape?
OR, (sorry, but this is fun! Lol) she just doesn't see her father's smell because she doesn't have a purpose to do so.
I actually had more theories, but I guess I'm a gold fish, I forgot them already lol
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37 Chi
April 25, 2015 at 2:33 PM
Thanks for the recap, I love how this show is progressing. I took a step back when it was announced that ssk would be the leading lady. never would I have thought I would love her in this role! The character is lovely and she's doing a crazy good job acting out the comedic bits as well as the emotional ones. The frightening scene with the murder and her in ep. 1 comes into my mind.
and I usually prefer romcom for yoochun, so I love him as mugak. The two of them have fantastic chemistry, the director didn't lie. I hope the drama won't loose it's pace since we are getting to half-half-time soon. I heard they are almost live-shooting by now, which is never a good thing for the quality of the drama. but the director has done an amazing job so far, so I will trust him to continue and finish his work as great as he has started it.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 7:16 PM
@ chi,
About this, "but the director has done an amazing job so far, so I will trust him to continue and finish his work as great as he has started it."
Me too, I hope. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the drama will stay good till the end.
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38 August
April 25, 2015 at 3:10 PM
Thanks for the recap, LollyPip! It's a delight each week to see Mu-Gak's moments of pettiness and Cho-Rim's attempts at comedy. I savor all of their interactions with one another and I simply adore them as the OTP. :)
Plus, it's great to see all of the positive reactions/reviews/compliments about what a great casting choice Nam Goong Min (aka Nam Gung Min) was for Chef Kwon Jae-hee.
Question: What did Chef Kwon end up doing with the truck considering the methods Chef Kwon employed to secure his alibi from hiring a driver for his car and using the truck to conceal Dr. Chun Baek-kyung's car?
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 7:34 PM
Hello August,
About this, "What did Chef Kwon end up doing with the truck considering the methods Chef Kwon employed to secure his alibi from hiring a driver for his car and using the truck to conceal Dr. Chun Baek-kyung’s car?" Good question.
I assumed that he took the truck home, but he couldn't have, since he was watching if things were going according to his plan. And his home is far, so he couldn't take the truck home at night (he ended up staying with his chef, to "create a new dish." And he had coffee with CR in the morning, and then he went to the hospital. So now I am curious too: what DID he do with the truck? Wasn't the kitchenware company supposed to pick it up the next day? But when did he take it home then? Will they (the show), let us know?
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growingbeautifully
April 26, 2015 at 12:30 AM
@ August and @ Ivoire
My take on the sequence was:
-Chef leaves Doc's car and gets into truck
-He gets the calls to confirm that his own car is being driven out of his restaurant carpark and that it will be driven home.
- He drives truck home and leaves it there for pick up by the Kitchen company people (he mentioned 2pm on the phone?)
- He takes his own car and drives back to the restaurant to pull the all-nighter with sous chef.
-He stays there with sous chef as alibi until Cho Rim walks in.
In the meantime, he also has called another driver to pick up Doc Chun's car from the fishing place and to leave it in the police carpark.
He throws away the phone card with which he called the driver(s)?? so that there's no way to tie the driver to him.
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August
April 26, 2015 at 10:42 AM
Thanks Ivoire & Growingbeautifully!
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39 Kiara
April 25, 2015 at 3:13 PM
Thank you LollyPip! LollyPip! Lolly Lolly LollyPip for the recap :).
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40 iana
April 25, 2015 at 4:30 PM
I've never scared this much watching a romcom, the chef creep me out whenever he appear. and I never know that criminal investigation can be this fun and cute. I never imagine there will be a detective who is handsome and cute and gentleman and cool at the same time. every little thing he does is magic! I'll become a fool for mugak hahaha and our otp, of course.
I wrote a pretty long comment after watching this ep and read the recap, but everything I wanted to say was already been said by all, lol I'm enjoy reading the recaps and comments. I read all comments too, so interesting! ^^
I feel not complete watching a drama without reading recaps, comments, discuss and share my thoughts and feelings about the drama.
thanks for the recap, Lollypip! ♥
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 7:39 PM
@ iana,
About this, "I wrote a pretty long comment after watching this ep and read the recap, but everything I wanted to say was already been said by all, lol I’m enjoy reading the recaps and comments. I read all comments too, so interesting! ^^
I feel not complete watching a drama without reading recaps, comments, discuss and share my thoughts and feelings about the drama."
You can still write your (long) comment, some of us would love to read it :-) And about your last paragraph, I feel the way you do. Drama watching is not complete without reading the recaps and the comments :-)
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41 Holly
April 25, 2015 at 5:15 PM
What! No picture of Chef Kwon's marvelous abs???
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thursdaynexxt
April 25, 2015 at 6:28 PM
I think there's a photobucket link when LollyPip's describing the "incredibly strong physique" of our killer: http://s630.photobucket.com/user/dramabeans/media/drama/2015/GWSS/GWSS7/GWSS7-00021%202.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0!
That's a close-up short, so for the full picture: https://www.upsieutoc.com/images/2015/03/23/ngm.jpg (scene from My Secret Hotel)
@LollyPip: I open the photobucket page and get: "available in Framed Prints and Canvas Wraps"?!! LOL and yes please~~!! Sorry, I'll behave now. Promise.
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Cocobeans
April 26, 2015 at 1:32 AM
and there goes the cold water supply for my town again...
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42 BedeliaJane
April 25, 2015 at 6:07 PM
Reading about all the love Beanies here have for the Mu-Rim couple, I'm so looking forward to the year-end Drama Awards! I'd think they'll be one of the Best Couple nominees.
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43 Sajen
April 25, 2015 at 6:15 PM
"Mu-gak elaborates that just as she said, he can protect her when they’re together"
Or you know you could be safer and teach her to protect herself, which will only make her hotter. At the very least buy her mace and steel-tip boots which she has to carry and wear on investigations so if someone attacks her first she maces then a good solid kick to the balls.
You know, now that I think about it it's the attention to detail shown in this episode by Jae-hee is what bothers me so much about something he almost does in 8. It's just so very, very stupid, thankfully he doesn't but still it makes me wonder how there's not a neon glowing yellow brick road leading right to Jae-hee and no one else.
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 7:42 PM
@ Sajen,
This, "Or you know you could be safer and teach her to protect herself, which will only make her hotter. At the very least buy her mace and steel-tip boots which she has to carry and wear on investigations so if someone attacks her first she maces then a good solid kick to the balls," is really good, and true!
Looking forward to your comments tomorrow.
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44 Aigoooo
April 25, 2015 at 7:11 PM
I gotta give it up for Park Jin Joo. She's always fun to watch as the comic relief best friend. Her and Kim Seul Gi has got that market cornered. lol
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Ivoire
April 25, 2015 at 7:43 PM
She was also good in Angel Eyes, though her role there was small. I enjoyed watching her in it.
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45 Venom
May 13, 2015 at 9:29 AM
So that explains it. Prosopagnosia explains why
1) He killed the wrong Eun Seol.
2) Does not know that Cho-Rim is the actual Eun Seol he's after.
The prosopagnosia might explain why the victims were murdered but then they don't like share the same name so that's very unlikely.
I do worry for the letter though. Why did doctor have to write it? If it goes to chef's hands, then it's gg no re Cho-Rim.
I thought the doctor's clue to chef might be a trick to lure him in but then Mu-gak gets stabbed instead.
Also for the chef's alibi, why can't anyone check the CCTVs to prove that he left much earlier? I'm still curious as to how Ma Ri's car got to the cliff without the CCTVs catching it. I also thought it was weird that the police immediately believed that the alibi was true just because of the upload date. That doesn't mean the pictures were taken at that time tho.
I thought chef was being a scumbag when he intentionally breaks something just to get the workers fired. But then he probably doesn't want workers like that going to his house more than once lest something gets revealed.
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46 dramadreamer
May 19, 2015 at 7:54 PM
does anyone notice that Chef Wan is a doppleganger for Kim Hyun Jung from Boys over flowers - aka Ji Hu? seriously! altho Chef Won looks slighter in build. those abs! woo hoo! haha. detective Ki is really good. so natural. PYC is hilarious as MG. petty and also - competitive - supersmart too from the way he pieces together evidence and reaches a plausible conclusion. overall, PYC managed to potray him as a sensitve and considerate guy altho also macho and manly when required. And yes, always the Protector - as is de rigeur for all the leads in K dramaland! not that i am complaining. macho and manly is always popular with me :) PYC is a rarity in kdramaland where the popular actors tend to have gone under the knift or have greek god physiques. He carves his niche from potraying the characted and wins fans through his senstitive potrayals. He was great in RTP! really preferred his leaner look there! the other actors dun do anything for me. the standouts are MG, Det Ki, CR's fren Ae Yi and i still dun get why CR's adopted dad took on such a responsbility. hope he reveals his reason before the end! and finally, i understand why MG's sister was murdered. i was wondering how the killer could mistake her for CR when they both look so different ! at first i thought CR had taken Yun Sol's jacket by mistake. Now i get it that they both share the same name and were in the same hospital at the same time. except that, Chef won went to finish off Yun Solbut because he can't recognise her, he slit her throat based on the name indicated at her bed. and the doctor guy was at the hospital at the same time to see his wife? he could not have been intending to kill her yet since CR was just admitted to the hospital - altho his wirtten confession is that he intended to hasten her death so that his wife could get a transplant from her. Not sure why doctor bumped shoulders with MG in such a sinister way when MG went to the hospital - the timelines dun match up coz the doc could not have gone there to kill CR. CR was just admitted after being hit by the car.
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47 dramadreamer
May 19, 2015 at 8:08 PM
one more thing which bothers me - why were the books which chef murderer was lovingly lining up in his dungeon- torture- room all of different sizes? some were slim volumes and one was really thick. Is it an empty book with a secret compartment? if so, what's inside? (dying to know....). hope show will explain why the death books are of different sizes! and is Chef going to pin the model's murder on the doctor? after all, the doctor's blood is already on her diary? that would be v convenient altho i notice his wooden crate with the diary inside was already stacked up neatly in his living room again - when MG was interviewing Chef about the whereabouts of doctor (before discovery of doctor's body in car at police station). last thing: how did chef know that he was knifing the correct person at the container storage area? esp since he has the "i cannnot see your face "syndrome? or was it obvious that there was no one else around at the time besides the 2 of them anyway? questions questions... hmmm...
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48 dramadreamer
May 19, 2015 at 11:47 PM
on to more frivolous topics - why does show keep putting their leads in the mushroom hairstyle? from heirs to YFAS to healer to GWSS ... lee min ho, kim soo hyun and ji chang wook, and PYC all seemed to have gone to the same hairstylist! and honestly, it did them no service at all. this style suits those with long faces and YC definitely needs a cut like that in RTP (the short style) to look cool. or long hair which seems to suit all of them - esp LMH. anyway, i tot that PYC looked good in the long and short in RTP. then again, he was leaner there as well. he says that he prefers long hair but that it is impossible to go back to that since it needs time to grow out and he is committed to projects all the time which require short hair. and Cho ri's hair here is atrocious! looks like 2 straggly curtains on some witch's apprentice. sure hope they give her a makeover hairstyle pronto in show! no complaints about the storyline tho! :)
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