Kill Me, Heal Me: Episode 16
by Saya
Do-hyun and Ri-jin finally get to ride the Snowflake Train, but is it the end of the line for them as a couple? The sweetness is undercut by the reality of their situation, and the thread of melancholy that has been with us ever since Ri-jin’s memories started unfurling continues to grow.
We’re several steps closer to exposing the rotten core of Seungjin, and the black hearts inside it. But the question we’re left with is, as ever: What does it mean to be Cha Do-hyun?
EPISODE 16 RECAP
Do-hyun and Ri-jin separately get ready for their day out, and Do-hyun’s burdened expression contrasts sharply with Ri-jin’s excitement. He finds Se-gi’s toy train in his wardrobe, and it reminds him of little Ri-jin.
Finally on the Snowflake Train, Do-hyun writes busily in a notebook while Ri-jin enthuses over the scenery. She fakes seeing a deer to snatch his notebook from him, and reads off a list of questions: hobbies, favorite colors, favorite things. He defensively reminds her that she told him that if they took a trip together, he could get to know her more.
She laughs at his strictly regimented schedule, and pounces on one of his items… which finds them playing the Zero game. His slow reactions crack her up, and she gleefully delivers wrist-smacks as punishment. When he declares it all invalid, his callback to Se-gi makes her grin even more.
They scramble off at their stop. Inside the train hang postcards they’ve written commemorating the happy moment. Ri-jin’s thanks him for keeping his promise, and Do-hyun’s characteristically says, “Remember: 26th February, 2015.”
Skipping ahead, Ri-jin tells Do-hyun her newly remembered memory. She was playing with a train set with another kid, and they promised to take a faraway train trip when they grew up. She tells him that Ri-on would say the kid was him, but she knows it wasn’t.
Grandma gets the report that Do-hyun’s uncle is urgently seeking a child. Her aide adds that her longtime boardroom supporters had a secret conference with Uncle, and points out that firing Do-hyun has left her at a disadvantage for the upcoming shareholders meeting. The suggestion that she might want to recall him makes her grim.
On his way out, the aide catches Do-hyun’s mom listening at the door.
Mom dines with Uncle, who guesses the reason she summoned him is to take care of Do-hyun. Since she’s only after capitalizing Do-hyun’s interests, it doesn’t matter whether it comes from Grandma’s side or his. Mom wants him to fork over the management for the group’s department store and car subsidiaries to Do-hyun, which is more than Uncle has in mind. He wants to know what’s in it for him.
Do-hyun giggles at Ri-jin’s kimbap-fail, and she swears they didn’t look like that in the morning, ha. As they slurp noodles, she confesses her two failings: she can’t cook (unlike her mom), and she sucks at arithmetic (like Dad).
He asks her how she takes after her brother, and she quips that they have a tendency to use their fists before their words. Also, neither can refuse other people’s requests, and they share a fear of basements. The last almost makes his smile slip.
An interlude takes us back to his conversation with Ri-on the day before, when he told him he had read “The Child in the Basement.”
He fills Ri-on in on how the story continued: The girl and the boy promised to meet every night at 10 o’clock, in the basement where the girl was locked up. Ri-on asks why the girl had to be hidden away. Do-hyun hasn’t found that out yet, but he begins to tell the story of what happened there 21 years ago.
In the present, Ri-on packs up and drives somewhere while Do-hyun’s story continues in voiceover. Keeping their promise to meet was hard, he says, because if the boy was found out or did something wrong, his father punished the girl instead.
Ri-jin and Do-hyun madly pedal a railrider along a country track, cheering each other on, while Do-hyun’s narration continues:
Do-hyun: “The boy who could not protect that girl took his memories of despair, pain, and powerlessness and sealed them up. And then he carved up his own self into pieces. But the sealed memories went wrong. He mistook the terrible abuse the girl suffered as his own memories, because he had wanted to suffer that abuse instead of the girl. Because he’d earnestly hoped that he’d be the one to feel the pain that the girl suffered.”
Ri-on reassures Do-hyun that he isn’t to blame: He didn’t stand idly by, and was a victim himself. Pretending not to see anything is always easiest — if just one of those bystanders had done something, then the victim’s soul wouldn’t have been ravaged, Ri-on says.
Do-hyun asks him to write that novel on Seungjin. This time, Do-hyun will provide the material — his only condition is that Ri-on make it a bestseller.
Back in the present, Ri-jin reminisces with Do-hyun about fighting with her brother during a family holiday when they were kids. She tells Do-hyun that she learned some martial arts techniques from Ri-on, and laughingly notes that it’s been pretty useful in life — like when she needs rein in Yo-na. The mention makes him shudder, and she pokes fun at him.
In answer to his question, Ri-jin tells him her name means “bright treasure,” as in clever. Do-hyun tells her it suits her, and promises to remember it for a long time. Gah why does everything sound like goodbye?
They walk together along the railroad, and when she sees the sea, Ri-jin runs ahead into the waves. Do-hyun hangs back.
“Oh Ri-jin…” he starts. She stops him — she knows what he’s going to say. His lost memories have come back, haven’t they? And she’s in them. She thinks they must be bad memories that would be upsetting for her to remember, and that’s why he’s planning to say goodbye now. She faces out to sea, eyes full.
Do-hyun thanks her for all she’s done. He tells her that his grandmother and mother know about his illness, and he no longer needs her services. Therefore, their contract is over as of today.
Her back still to him, she keeps her tone bright and tells him he should leave first, if he has the confidence to show her his back. He goes.
Ri-on arrives as Do-hyun leaves, and drops a blanket over Ri-jin’s crouched figure. She takes it off, and he pulls out his usual bluster and takes her away to get warm.
Over a hot meal, she wonders if the two of them planned this whole thing together. He admits they did, the day before at the hospital. Do-hyun was going to break up with her, but couldn’t bear to leave her by herself.
She hasn’t got much to say to that, and just tucks into her soup like it doesn’t matter. Ri-on’s concerned and begs her to react, to curse him or Do-hyun (“that jerk”).
She tells him that Do-hyun wants to keep her from remembering the bad memories of her past. Ri-on agrees with that line of reasoning, and says that she’s been fine all this time without those awful memories. Her life is good. She has her family, and they have each other — can’t they go on as before?
Seeing her hold it in, he tells her to just let it out and cry, and she finally lets herself.
Do-hyun’s not doing much better at home. Chief Ahn finds him stretched out on his couch, arm over eyes. Do-hyun tells him Ri-jin’s last words, and how he turned away so coolly. Chief Ahn asks if he’s been drinking. He has, but he’s not drunk, Do-hyun replies. He wishes he were crazy-drunk right now, so that Se-gi or Perry would come out and take a year of his time away. But those guys are never around when you need them, he laugh-cries.
Chief Ahn, bless him, puts him to bed. He tells Do-hyun that the pain of heartbreaks is not to be scoffed at. It sounds like he knows all about it, Do-hyun observes. The chief just tells him that crying could help. It’s not the same as losing your country — but Do-hyun cuts in that he does feel like he unfairly lost his country: “The country I long for all the time, even though I left.”
Over breakfast at the Oh house, Ri-on mutters to Ri-jin that she should tone it down if she doesn’t want her heartbreak to be obvious. Mom and Dad both pick up on her forced cheerfulness and wonder what’s up. They bicker about the cause — could it be that she’s not eating properly? Or maybe she eats too much and that’s why she gets treated badly, Mom says. Dad is so upset by the idea of her eating habits being criticized that he tells Ri-jin to quit right away.
Right on cue, her luggage from Do-hyun’s house arrives back. They’re shocked that that she was fired, but Ri-jin points out that Dad told her to quit, and takes credit for obeying him so promptly. She shrugs off Ri-on’s help and leaves to unpack on her own, while Dad still thinks she lost the job because of her eating, lol.
Alone, Ri-jin sighs over her bunny pajamas, wishing she had given them to Yo-na. She’s interrupted by a call — it’s Grandma Seo.
Do-hyun and Dr. Seok talk, and Do-hyun tells him how he’s sharing Se-gi’s memories and also slowly recovering his lost childhood ones. Dr. Seok muses that only integration is left now, before he goes back to the U.S. Do-hyun doesn’t plan to return yet, though — he still has to uncover why that child had to be hidden and why she was abused, he says. Only then can he begin to make amends. Dr. Seok, who doesn’t yet know that child was Ri-jin, tells Do-hyun he should continue receiving her private help.
Ri-jin is shown into Grandma’s study and the housekeeper makes a secret call to Chief Ahn to let him know. He takes the call while meeting with Min Seo-yeon’s former driver, trying to track down the employees from the day of the fire.
Chief Ahn updates Do-hyun on the investigation. As an afterthought, he adds that Ri-jin was summoned by Grandma — news that sends Do-hyun racing to his car.
Grandma is displeased to find out Ri-jin is no longer Do-hyun’s secret doctor, and dismisses her. But Ri-jin pauses to say one more thing, as his former doctor: He can’t heal from his illness alone, and he badly needs his family’s care. If his grandmother helped him find out his past, it could help his treatment. Oh Ri-jin, if only you knew.
Grandma warns Ri-jin that she is overstepping. True to form, she only has scorn for Do-hyun and asks what help there is for someone who’s stuck on the past. Does Ri-jin want her to apologize?
Ri-jin replies with a quote from Swiss theologian Karl Barth: “While no one can go back and create a new beginning, everyone can start anew and create a new ending.” Grandma does not like being schooled, and orders her out.
As Ri-jin leaves, Grandma mutters that she’s impertinent, dislodging an old memory of those same words. She freezes. When she catches sight of the photos of Do-hyun’s dad, her breath catches and the room darkens around her. Grandma watches her like a hawk as the housekeeper helps her outside.
Before Ri-jin can exit the house, she’s gripped by another flashback. Little Ri-jin plays violin, accompanying the boy on the piano. He gets it wrong, and Evil Dad approaches Ri-jin with a cane, sneering that she’s just like her mother. He drags her away, while a sobbing Do-hyun begs to take the punishment instead of her.
Ri-jin stumbles from one memory to another: She’s locked in the basement, rattling at the handle. Then, she backs into a corner as Dad approaches with his arm raised. The boy’s appeals for her to be spared are constant, and little Ri-jin pleads for mercy.
Finally out of the house and in the present, Ri-jin recalls Do-hyun’s mission to find the child in his basement. She suddenly wonders if that child was her. The pieces come together in her mind, like Do-hyun’s apology for being late being an exact echo of the boy of her memories. Which means…that boy in her memories is Do-hyun?
She remembers Do-hyun telling her to stop searching out her lost memories for his sake. As the full implication hits her, she collapses to her knees.
Just arrived, Do-hyun sees her and comes running. But she’s lost in the pain of her memories, and reflexively curls into a ball, crying. He reaches for her — and stops himself, allowing the housekeeper to bundle her inside.
Do-hyun bursts into Grandma’s study, demanding to know what she said to Ri-jin. Grandma says she wanted to consult with his doctor, and Do-hyun asks what more she can possibly want to find out about him. Characteristically, she ignores him and instead tells him join the company. She wants him in the construction subsidiary, and tells him to prepare for a shareholder meeting.
Do-hyun declines (yeah! Stick it to her!). She’s taken aback by his refusal, and he repeats what he told her before, that he has things to do. He won’t return to the company. With that, he exits.
A dead-eyed Ri-jin meets with Ri-on. Staring out the window, she asks him to interpret her “nightmare.” She describes the boy playing on the piano who made a mistake, and how a man imprisoned her in the basement because of it. Every night at 10 o’clock, she waited for the boy to come and play with her. Was that boy Ri-on — or was it Cha Do-hyun?
Ri-on asks if her memories have come back. She wonders just how much he knew, and how much he and Do-hyun colluded to keep the truth from her. But, she tells him, she’ll find out for herself.
Ri-jin finds her mom, and can’t help crying as soon as she sees her. She tells Mom that she’s curious now about her birth parents, and what kind of people they were.
Chief Ahn has some new documents for Do-hyun’s investigation. He gives him a copy of the family register, and Min Seo-yeon’s immigration records. The latter show her entering the country with Grandma and a 6-year-old girl in June 1993, but he points out that all official trace of that girl vanished thereafter.
But Do-hyun is confused by the family register. His dad returned to Seungjin with Do-hyun in order to enter him into the registry so he could enter school. But why is his name already registered here months before anyone knew of his existence? Oh man, I have a weird hunch.
Ri-jin’s mom gives her an envelope containing some of her birth mother’s effects. Ri-jin doesn’t have the courage to look at it right away and instead asks her mom to tell her more about Min Seo-yeon. She was capable and kind, Mom says, like Ri-jin. But marrying into a rich, messed-up family changed her.
Mom explains that Seo-yeon had loved someone else, but was pressured into her marriage. She was so competent that her father-in-law (i.e., Do-hyun’s grandfather) preferred her to his own son. In the end, her husband fell out badly with his father and left, finally giving her the divorce she begged for.
Seo-yeon confided to Mom then that she’d found her man, and she was going to the U.S. to be with him. Mom surmises that that man was Ri-jin’s biological dad. But he was dying, and Seo-yeon returned to Korea with Ri-jin.
Mom stops there, and promises to tell her the rest slowly. Ri-jin apologizes to her, and tearfully tells her it’s not because she doesn’t love her. It’s just that the memories keep rising up and torturing her. Mom, also crying, reassures her that she understands.
Do-hyun is studying the register again, when his head rings with the pain that usually signifies a switch. Memories of both Ri-jins, child and adult, overlap in his mind. The pain intensifies and he screams.
Ri-jin opens the envelope her mom left, and recognizes the burnt photo — but this is the original, including little Ri-jin with her arms around her mother. She spills the rest of the contents out and finds the locket.
Do-hyun bolts awake, a giant teddy bear lying beside him. He slowly approaches the foot of his bed — to meet a vision of little Ri-jin. She holds her hands out for the bear, and he smiles that broken little smile as he hands it over.
She says she’ll tell him her name now, since she couldn’t last time. He already knows it, he says — it’s Oh Ri-jin. She shakes her head. He’s surprised. What is it then?
Ri-jin opens the locket to her mother’s picture. In her memory, she hears a woman call, “Do-hyun-ah!” She wonders why she’s calling Do-hyun’s name, when another memory rises.
Little Ri-jin plays on a swing and a woman calls Do-hyun. She replies, “Mommy!” and goes running to her. Her mother chides her for playing dangerously, “If Do-hyun gets hurt, do you know upset mommy will be?” Ri-jin promises to be more careful, and Mommy wraps her in a cuddle, so proud of her super-smart daughter, Do-hyun. Oh man.
Shell-shocked in the present, Ri-jin thinks, “My name is…”
Little Ri-jin confides to Do-hyun. “My name is… Cha. Do. Hyun.”
COMMENTS
Oh man. I totally have the chills. I saw this coming just a few minutes from the end, but it’s still a powerful twist. In a show that is everything to do with identity, I feel like this revelation subtly shifts my perspective of everything in the show so far, redrawing the show’s core motifs in a completely different light, like the “I’m you”/”You’re me” theme, or his “I’m Cha Do-hyun” refrain. It even changes the nature of the most fundamental question underpinning the whole show: Who is Cha Do-hyun?
What a simple, ingenious and cruel way to wipe out the existence of Min Seo-yeon’s child. No wonder Grandma is terrified by the idea of it coming out. Speaking of whom, it was so satisfying that Do-hyun incisively cuts her strings. The thing about puppeteers is that they can only manipulate you if you want something they have. Do-hyun doesn’t, so he’s free to rise above their game, and remind Grandma that she can’t just have something because she wants it. For now, I’ll take her getting a figurative slap in the face (though a literal one would be nice, too), but damn, I hope that by the end of the show, she and Mom are called to account and punished, even if, Brothers Karamazov-style, it’s in the stew of their own guilt.
But is Mom worse? Grandma has (relatively) no soul to begin with, but it looks like Mom cashed hers in to buy a place in Seungjin, and sold her son out at the same time. If there’s a more reprehensible motive in renaming your own child, denying how your actions contributed to his mental breakdown, and refusing to stop despite his begging…I don’t even want to know. She obviously loves Do-hyun after a fashion (I think?), but what kind of love is it that doesn’t see the person he is and the suffering he endures? So Mom, you win at failing, and if Grandma is Lucius Malfoy, you — weak and greedy — are Peter Pettigrew.
Do-hyun’s question begins to be answered: Why was Ri-jin abused? I think his dad saw Ri-jin as little more than an avatar of her dead mother, and you can’t get back at dead people. Overshadowed by a capable wife whose love he could not win, and belittled by a father whose confidence he couldn’t gain, his sense of inferiority and his ballooning resentment against them both probably fed into each other. And with an enabling mom at cross-purposes with accepted morality, reframing his feelings and actions as legitimate wouldn’t even have needed much effort.
I wonder if the show’s slightly Nietzschean undertones are intentional, like the idea of redefining morality for one’s own purposes, or the role of action versus inaction (although I hasten to add I am an amateur at philosophy, so please do correct me if I’m wrong). With the belief that the capacity for guilt is embedded into the human psyche, and innately connected to the capacity for memory, the idea that “only something which continues to hurt stays in the memory” makes a triangle of memory, guilt and pain — a trifecta that is at the root of the majority of ills in this show.
Do-hyun’s overwhelming guilt comes to the fore again this hour, really epitomized in that moment he’s about to reach for Ri-jin, but pulls back. Grandma has a point about not holding on to a past that can’t be changed or undone, but Ri-jin is more right — if the injuries of the past aren’t treated, the pain will prevent them from moving forward. And that’s why “heal me” isn’t just a gimmick, but a necessary measure to ensure they can moor to their lives in the present.
Ri-jin’s indomitable spirit bore out in what was really her episode. I’m glad she got angry with Ri-on, who in being a good brother, can be high-handed to the extent that it erases her agency. She gets to choose if she gets hurt, it’s not up to him (or Do-hyun) to decide. So I agree with her cutting loose from him. For now, she needs to do this on her terms, and if that means on her own, then on her own it is.
That’s why I actually think the couple need to be apart for now (so they can be together later, of course). Both of them have things they need to do alone. Ri-jin is beginning to regain her own lost memories and Do-hyun can’t help her deal with them, not when he’s struggling with his own. The caregiver dynamic makes Ri-jin protective, instinctively putting him first. His break-up is partially acknowledgement of that inequality and his current inability to level it even though he badly wants to. He’s already wracked with the guilt of failing to protect her in the past, and nor can he protect her now, as the previous episode proves.
I’ve heard some unhappy rumblings about this week’s episodes (purplecow and I aren’t friends anymore)(lol no, just kidding). On the opposite end, I really liked the tone and direction of the story this week, and feel the characters stayed true to themselves. Ri-jin proved she isn’t playing second fiddle (hur) in Do-hyun’s hero’s journey, but is forging her own path. Nor do I see Do-hyun as a noble idiot: He leaves her because he can’t live with himself, not for her own good. After three-quarters of cute/funny, I think the show’s earned its angst — purposeful and necessary given where things are headed. Mental disorder and child abuse are not, after all, light topics, and addressing them properly can’t be a jovial affair. Like I said at the beginning, the premise is only a comedy on the outside, but at its core, it’s always a tragedy. Let’s weather it with Do-hyun and Ri-jin.
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1 lulu1
March 2, 2015 at 2:04 PM
That twist. My mind is blown
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Pearl~ai88
March 2, 2015 at 2:15 PM
Ikr? I didn't see it coming at all, so it even took me a while to understand what exactly the twist WAS I was so shocked and confused! *applause for show*
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amie
March 3, 2015 at 11:48 AM
love Oh Ri On's hair color, especially under natural light. any idea on the exact shade?
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Gumiho_bean
March 2, 2015 at 2:39 PM
I think we, the audience, were directly mislead about ORJ's real name. We had Na na, who we all thought was based on her and was her actual name. When it was revealed that it was not (it was the name of the bear instead), the comparison to the other reveals made it less important, almost like it was a footnote instead. So we didn't focus on it as much as the other problems in the drama
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aoiaheen
March 2, 2015 at 3:59 PM
And that is what makes an excellently written story.
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siri
March 3, 2015 at 12:22 AM
yep they cleverly threw red herrings so we'd never see this coming. I was sure nana was ri jin's previous name before they revealed it was the bear (such a brilliant feint, the sketches by yo sub also showed the girl clutching the bear didn't it? i don't recall clearly, but i think it did, which noone noticed but now makes sense (also what's cha do hyun like when his teddy bear personality comes out? very curious to see xD) in any case the writer is quite fantastic in her reveals). on another note i didn't know do hyun was a gender neutral name, or are all korean names gender neutral?
great recap Saya, really enjoyed your comments, and I agree the angst was unavoidable and needed with such a topic (though I love the funny bits)
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Julia Fitri
March 2, 2015 at 8:22 PM
Same here. But rather than admiring the plot I was like more concern for DH, not only RJ was his whipping boy, but he inadvertently stole her name too? The GUILT.
So what is his name? As if he needed to be more wavering in his conviction of who he is, his name isn't even his real name? Then who is he? I'm worried about his feeling of self-identity now.
So okay, a name doesn't make you who or what you are but it helps, you feel me?
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 9:16 PM
I sure feel you Julia, I am terribly sad for him too, I can imagine his guilt and now his identity lost, so whats the meaning of all the struggles he has been through all this time, I do hope he wont feel that way for a long time, its just 4 more episodes you know huhuhu
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Lisa
March 3, 2015 at 2:28 AM
It's probably Shin Se Gi. His mother is named Madam Shin and if you rewatch scenes of Se Gi, he often says things that make it seem like Cha Do Hyun is actually Shin Se Gi (name wise). Besides, it would fit Se Gi's personality. He is everything that is considered Cha Do Hyun's past childhood. He is what Cha Do Hyun forgot, and in one way when they changed his name, he lost his real name "Shin Se Gi", too.
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Shibanami
March 3, 2015 at 5:45 AM
Love your observation! This makes so much sense!
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Toozles
March 3, 2015 at 7:02 AM
It would be nice if it is Shin Se Gi. After all, he is the one who recognized her immediately and fell in love with her as soon as they met.
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Adal
March 3, 2015 at 7:53 AM
True
bbeth
March 3, 2015 at 10:13 AM
*SHOCK*!!!!!
What a mind-blowing observation! I mean the ending reveal of "My Name is Cha Do-hyun" was jaw dropping but your point is so on point! Se-gi was the 'stifled life' that hid when he had to put on a new name on top of all the other confusing things that were happening (his grandfather & 'mom (legal family register mom)' died, confused as to why she was hit when he made a mistake, his dad prob separated him from the mom (Madam shin?) and just brought him to the imposing family house - i don't think they were all there together like 'we're a family, hi')
rambled - but yea, great great connection you made, Lisa
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Honeybee
March 14, 2015 at 6:03 PM
What I think is awful is: when they get back together, how can he look deep in her eyes and call her Cha Do Hyun??? That's like adding insult to injury to both of them.
And its so sick!!!
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Camille W
March 3, 2015 at 11:58 AM
I get what u mean. And now that our puppy has just found out that he is not the real Do Hyun, perhaps this is when Mr. X will come out. Maybe mister X represents that part of Do Hyun that knows that he is not really who he thinks he is. I mean, he is called "Mr. X" for a reason. We don't really know much about him and surely that's intentional. Still, when will we meet him? The preview doesn't show him.
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sophee
March 2, 2015 at 8:55 PM
After I watched this ep raw when it aired, I was so shocked and mind blown that I was not able to watch another drama the whole day and I even dreamed about it.??? It gave me the chills, I was totally creeped out by the extent of psychopathy of the people that broke this 2 children.???? Major applause to writer-nim for this totally unexpected twist! ??
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Lily
March 3, 2015 at 12:13 AM
I think Shin Se Gi is Cha Do Hyun’s birth name :)
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Reya
March 3, 2015 at 2:28 AM
that would be mind blowing! even more than it is right now. just twist the knife into the wound
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Maria
March 3, 2015 at 5:48 AM
I think there is one more name listed for Ji Sung in this drama besides Shin SeGi, Perry, YooSub, and YooNa. Saw that on wiki, but it was still written as "X" only.
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NahlaJW
March 3, 2015 at 7:05 AM
Me too. I was like whaat ! What did I just see @_@
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2 Gabby
March 2, 2015 at 2:10 PM
It was more about how the structure of this show hit us from comedy to full on angst. We know it was expected but have only that loses itself from the fun. Lets get back on track show.
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Gabby
March 2, 2015 at 2:12 PM
Thank you both for the recap!
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Pearl~ai88
March 2, 2015 at 2:20 PM
Hmmm, I agree more with Saya. I expected the show to go this route emotionally and I think it's necessary for the story, so I'm not too upset about it. As long as we do get some more fun before the end! I'm sure we will :)
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redfox
March 2, 2015 at 2:35 PM
the point is NOT
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redfox
March 2, 2015 at 2:41 PM
the point is NOT whether it is necessary or not. It is BORING to watch when they do it. I don´t want to yawn through the episode.
I still love you, Show! Please get back on track and be like yourself again - this doesn´t mean all fun and humor, but be self-conscious, unconventional and poignant.
what I want most is a proper conclusion and happy end to all alters, MEN KEEPING THEIR PROMISES like overcoming together etc (I bet 10 O´clock still has a role to play)
and it would be GREAT if someone was watching Ri On and writing a book about him. Like.... Mom? hahahaa he would so deserve it!
there is only 2 weeks left. I feel like I can´t watch at all this week, I want to stall it as far as possible. what to do?
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redfox
March 2, 2015 at 2:46 PM
I seriously don´t like the guys deciding things for Ri Jin. chauvinist act like this doesn´t suit the vibe.
tbh I have a hard time to swallow the name switch because Do Hyun does not sound like a female name at all. I don´t know. maybe it is very feminine. I did call Shin Se Gi being an original identity in the beginning but then they thoroughly distracted and confused us!!! show did a good job with us not trusting our intuition.
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Gaelicmaiden
March 2, 2015 at 2:55 PM
"I seriously don´t like the guys deciding things for Ri Jin. chauvinist act like this doesn´t suit the vibe."
Totally. I get that Ri On is doing out of love and wants to protect her, but he still doesn't get to make her choices for her.
I would like to see Ri Jin say something to him along the lines of, "You said you wanted a sister who fights back. Let me fight."
redfox
March 2, 2015 at 2:57 PM
oy, that is a good line! thumbs up! like the show itself always referring back to every seemingly insignificant detail at first glance that turned out to be one of the main pieces in the puzzle
Hipployta
March 2, 2015 at 3:58 PM
I would say the "Cha Do Hyun" persona IS the original personality...but when he lost his memories and split himself his frustration and anger emerged in a personality under his REAL name
Sun
March 2, 2015 at 5:56 PM
[I have a hard time to swallow the name switch because Do Hyun does not sound like a female name at all.]
Dohyun can be a unisex name. The thing is, after so many hours of seeing DH as a name for a man, we can no longer easily separate the name with the image that has been associated with it for all these time. I feel really weird to imagine Ri Jin's face and call her Dohyun.
Emma
March 3, 2015 at 7:29 AM
In my own language we have plenty of unisex names who doesn't sound specialy male nor female, obviously... Nothing shocking to heard that DoHyun is unisex.... ùJust keep in mingd it's not an American show, you might be less disappointed.
Pearl~ai88
March 3, 2015 at 8:59 AM
Oh. Well, I wasn't particularly bored either.
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3 Pearl~ai88
March 2, 2015 at 2:18 PM
Well everyone who wanted Segi to be the original personality, you got what you wished for! lol, sort of... *evil cackle* >:P
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redfox
March 2, 2015 at 2:54 PM
I guess that is what it meant when his behavior showed more and more signs of merging with Shin Se Gi, in fact it wasn´t merging, he was becoming his self. and once he is himself he has no need for the other alters :-((( BUT WE DO!!!
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jillifish
March 2, 2015 at 5:02 PM
Omg I just realized that Shin Se-gi got the same last name as his mom Shin Hwa-ran. It is starting to make sense now, since he was born out of wedlock and could have taken his mom's last name. (Others must have already noticed, I am so slow haha :P)
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sometimes
March 2, 2015 at 11:30 PM
I don't think that Shin Se Gi is Cha Do Hyun's real/birth name. Remember that Do Hyun has already mentioned Shin Se Gi's name in front of his mom (That his mom already met one of his alter personality), but his mom doesn't seems really shocked. Sorry for my limited english ^_^
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Lisa
March 3, 2015 at 2:32 AM
But he didn't mention the name, as far as I remember.
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sometimes
March 3, 2015 at 7:39 AM
no, he did. eps 15, 50:31
Camille W
March 3, 2015 at 12:23 PM
Idk. Suppose the mom is not reacting to the name, Shin Se-Gi because it was his name anyway?
This show sends my mind into overdrive. But I do still think that the name Shin Se Gi probably isn't his real name. His name could really be anything, who knows? The show always reminds us that we really do not have all the pieces to the puzzle.
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4 wildfly
March 2, 2015 at 2:20 PM
Yesss. Recap of my fav. Drama. You guys are too good to us @purplecow & @saya
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 3:56 PM
agree, love both of them ^__^
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Aria
March 2, 2015 at 5:14 PM
+1 :)
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5 Purva Huilgol
March 2, 2015 at 2:21 PM
Thank you for the awesome recap, Saya!
Bah, it wasn't enough for the writers to get me crying in ep 15 that they had it to in ep 16 as well? T.T
That being said, I absolutely loved this episode. ORJ was simply awesome and I loved how HJE acted out her letting CDH go. For me, that's what it meant. It wasn't CDH letting ORJ go as I thought in ep 15, it was the other way round. She let him go, since she understood how difficult it was for him to be with her after remembering what terrible memories they had shared. One thing I didn't like was ORO calling CDH a 'jerk". It's a minor quibble but I feel it is unfair since ORO is the only one who has witnessed the pain CDH went through while taking about separating from ORJ.
Another scene that I absolutely loved was the mother-daughter scene with ORJ and her Mom. her mom didn't keep anything from her, and gave her the freedom to cope up with it. When ORJ said that the memories were difficult to bear, her Mom said she understands since she's her Mom- it just broke my heart.
That twist in the end, though- writers, you win. Other than the battle that CDH went through with SSG in the previous episode, I think the real battle is now. His identity as CDH is wiped out in one swoop. All his clinging to that name every-time, his words "I'm Cha Do-hyun" is turning out to be one big lie- which will either break him or make him stronger. I think we'll finally see the unknown Mr.X (I hope). I'm more interested in how ORJ deals with it. Does she go to CDH that she knows they should work this out together or does she dig deeper before she goes to him?
Show, what are you doing to me?
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Purva Huilgol
March 2, 2015 at 2:28 PM
Addition: Absolutely loved your analogy of Grandmom being Lucius Malfoy and his Mom being Peter Pettigrew, @Saya!
I wish I could chant Expecto Patronum to make all the Dementors/bad memories go away from CDH(or the male CDH)!!
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Purva Huilgol
March 2, 2015 at 2:29 PM
*and the male CDH
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 3:58 PM
LOL
plus can we turn them into frogs or something???
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wildfly
March 2, 2015 at 11:27 PM
LOL gram already looks like a stuffed frog
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Maria
March 3, 2015 at 5:53 AM
LOL. I love it! That Harry Potter reference is simply GOLD!
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6 Kim
March 2, 2015 at 2:32 PM
Well said Saya. Well said.....
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 3:58 PM
+ 1
yep
beautifully stated
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Rain
March 2, 2015 at 5:10 PM
+1 well weell said, Saya :D
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Aria
March 2, 2015 at 5:13 PM
+1
agree!!!
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kyl
March 3, 2015 at 12:19 AM
Yup. That's exactly my sentiments. When the show is funny, it's funny. When it's angsty, it's painful to watch :( These two were just kids and the adults did this to them. Sigh.
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7 me
March 2, 2015 at 2:38 PM
RJ was so cute and looked so happy at the beach before DH broke her heart......and felt so sad when she was crying with RO at the outdoor restaurant.
I was so shock by the twist also even though I spoiled myself before watching ep. 16. I couldn't even imagine the root of his DID was this traumatizing....good job writers.
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tweetpandora
March 2, 2015 at 2:42 PM
I know I so regret seeing the spoliers, my mind would have been super blown otherwise
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Beebeeshing
March 3, 2015 at 2:28 AM
Now then I uderstood how you felt. I spoilt myself with the preview and for once I hated my theory. _| ̄|○
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 4:00 PM
so now its all make sense why he split into 7 personalities rite, with this kind of trauma
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8 yukinosuna
March 2, 2015 at 2:40 PM
The scriptwriters need an award.
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 3:50 PM
LOL. I think every single person in the production deserve a prize. They made this show so successful.
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 4:01 PM
agree Beebeeshing, dont forget the awards for the personalities...LOL
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beebeeshing
March 3, 2015 at 1:36 AM
LOL. there is a that is edited by fans that give award to the most popular personality and Segi won. HAHAHAAHA *ROLLS ON THE FLOOR*
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Aria
March 2, 2015 at 5:30 PM
yeah :) give all of them a credit!!! :) everyone did work hard for this to become a successful drama :)
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beebeeshing
March 3, 2015 at 1:38 AM
Yes it is. It's the synergy in the production team that makes 1 +1 > 3 effect. I don't know when can I enjoy such drama again. >__<
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9 PinkApple
March 2, 2015 at 2:40 PM
This drama is playing with my brain.. I was like Oh My God at the end of drama.. But in the end, it is forming a beautiful story. Every details is beautiful...
P.S. You can vote for KMHM at dramabuzz.com! It has 6000 votes right now!
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 4:03 PM
I second that, every details in this show is beautiful to me...LOL
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10 tweetpandora
March 2, 2015 at 2:41 PM
This was a brilliant twist, one which all us theorizers never came up with. Only 1 more day and then it's the next episodes, can't wait!
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tweetpandora
March 2, 2015 at 2:41 PM
I take it Do-Hyun is a unisex name? It sounds so male to me....
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IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 4:01 PM
Doyeon has been listed by wiki as a korean unisex name. So I think we can assume that Dohyun is too.
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 4:07 PM
wow, thank u for the info IncognitoIris
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IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 4:22 PM
No problem :)
lily
March 2, 2015 at 4:03 PM
Just like Kim So-Hyun is unisex name.
One is our handsome actor (YFAS) an the other is child actress (i miss you, dll)
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jillifish
March 2, 2015 at 5:03 PM
I think you meant Kim Soo-Hyun. But yeah, that is a unisex name, too.
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Jackeline
March 2, 2015 at 6:07 PM
Actually the actor is Kim Soo Hyun while the child actress is Kim So Hyun. They don't have the same name. However, Kim Soo Hyun is a unisex name, as there is a female drama writer with the name Kim Soo Hyun.
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Maria
March 3, 2015 at 5:57 AM
Here is the list from wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Korean_unisex_given_names
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thursdaynexxt
March 3, 2015 at 3:16 AM
Ah, yes, those were the names I was thinking of! There's also names like Seol-hyun (from AOA), so I guess Do-hyun's not impossible!
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11 Den
March 2, 2015 at 2:42 PM
Wah! The signs were all there. I feel like a dummy that I never connected it all before. Still, that's one of the best twists during the dreaded angsty period in kdramas. Love the writer!
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12 ramona
March 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM
This is such a good recap!!! AMEN to you sister! And cheers to all my fellow KMHM viewers!
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 4:44 PM
cheers ^__^
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Aria
March 2, 2015 at 4:56 PM
cheerss!!!!!!
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13 redfox
March 2, 2015 at 2:49 PM
is anyone else endlessly curious as to what Secretary Ahn´s heartbreak might be?
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ramona
March 2, 2015 at 2:58 PM
I know it's a long shot, but i have a feeling that sec.Ahn is min seo yeons lover from the states and consequently Ri Jin's dad!
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redfox
March 2, 2015 at 3:03 PM
oh god it would be weird. at least he is not evil otherwise it would be a Darth Vader moment.
but shouldn´t he know the childs´ name then? amd know it was a girl= he was on a task to look for the child and investigating it not knowing if it was a boy or a girl.
maybe he is Min Se Yeons´brother or something?
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 3:44 PM
That's what I thought too! He could be the brother of "Do Hyun". And reality trolled him that he is not the "Do Hyun" he thought he is. HAHAHAHA.
Or maybe he is just a very good brother to "Do Hyun" before "DH" was brought back to Korea and he just want to know what happened in the Basement. I wouldn't be surprise Secretary Ahn have this secret mission like Rion. ಠ_ಠ
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jomo143
March 2, 2015 at 4:01 PM
I don't think he is old enough. He would have to have been a teenager. Not impossible, just not someone a grown woman goes back to.
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shinayame
March 2, 2015 at 5:29 PM
Ri Jin's mom said her bio dad was dying before they left the States, though...
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sargevee
March 3, 2015 at 12:28 PM
I think it's a long shot. There's no urgency in Sec Ahn all throughout the drama to indicate he's in search of a missing family member. Or if he has any other motive but to protect his boss and friend.
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14 Nini
March 2, 2015 at 2:53 PM
agree with you wholeheartedly. in how the show doesn't seem off track to me at all.. and how the arcs for the each of the characters seem genuine and instinctive.. the twist at the end was a punch in the gut and twisted my insides oh so bad. Love the show and damn its the last week!;(
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15 Gaelicmaiden
March 2, 2015 at 3:02 PM
I'm sorry for being a bit slow, but could someone please give a very, VERY bare boned explanation of this twist? I mean, I know RJ is really DH and DH is really … Well, we're not sure yet. And that she is (allegedly) the daughter of the first wife. But what was the point of switching the names? I just think there's something in the timeline that I'm missing.
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redfox
March 2, 2015 at 3:03 PM
the point of switching the names is that Cha Do Hyun is the name in family register.
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Gaelicmaiden
March 2, 2015 at 3:14 PM
So is Ri Jin (I'm using their names as we have come to know them) actually the real member of that family? If so, then who is Do Hyun? Unless … do we know for sure that Do Hyun is his father's son?
See, I have this theory, but it could be totally invalid.
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redfox
March 2, 2015 at 3:15 PM
did you not watch the past 4 episodes? go watch first.
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Gaelicmaiden
March 2, 2015 at 3:19 PM
I did. But yeah I know there's something I'm forgetting. Ok I'll go rewatch.
On second thought, that'll take to long. I'll just re-read the recaps!
PS thanks for letting me know which ones.
ramona
March 2, 2015 at 3:09 PM
The reason they switched the names was because in the family registry the heir for seungjin group was cha do hyun (meaning ri jin) but after the deaths of her mum and the grandfather and the fire they (grandmonster) wanted to vanish oh ri jin and use the name in the registry for the little boy (ji sung) so that he can be the heir.
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thursdaynexxt
March 3, 2015 at 3:25 AM
Re the fire: my theory is that they (Evil Dad/Grandmonster - love that name!) set the fire, knowing Ri Jin was locked in the basement.
Then Evil Dad 'saved' his son to fulfil the child swap registry scam and guarantee the Seungjin Group lineage. Or maybe he was acting on Mom's orders - Jung Pyo didn't seem to care much about his son or the company anyway - he didn't come home for 6 (?) years.
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Camille W
March 3, 2015 at 12:55 PM
Go check out the preview for ep 17. It shows us who really set the fire. I won't say who did it, for those who want no spoilers
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thursdaynexxt
March 3, 2015 at 1:03 PM
*Gasps* *quickly covers mouth*
I hope that's a fake out. That's all I'll say!
redfox
March 4, 2015 at 2:04 PM
I called it in the last recaps´comments or maybe ep 14
jomo143
March 2, 2015 at 4:07 PM
What rebecca said, and also, they kicked out a NOT blood related person and switched in a blood related person.
They were pretending that the real daughter in law - MSY and Coma dad had a child together when in fact, the original CDH
(Get it now - ORIGIN?)
was the result of an extramarital affair.
There doesn't seem to be a reason the couldn't have just set the record straight when SSG/CDH arrived on the scene.
I am not sure how important is was that ORJ was born first when she wasn't actually an heir at all. It seems like much ado about nothing. At least as far a the blood is concerned.
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kimchikay
March 2, 2015 at 5:22 PM
Oh Ri Jin would have become heir due to the influence of her mother and the grandfather who doted on her mother - hence it was likely she would get most of the inheritance. Cha Do Hyun (the male) was also an illegitimate child of his father and another woman (which we know is he current mother). The grandmother took the chance when Ri Jin goes missing (aka gets rescued by her adoptive mom) to make Cha Do Hyun the actual child of Min Seo and therefor whatever inheritance she had (likely the company) goes to Do Hyun.
What I don't understand is
1) Why the grandmother hates Do Hyun so much, since the beginning, if infact she's done everything to make him heir including pretending he's another person.
2) Doesn't korea list the sex of the child with the name, considering so many names are unisex? Did Grandmother manipulate this or was it simply a blooper?
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Saya
March 2, 2015 at 5:28 PM
Re: the first, he's basically a placeholder for comatose Dad, since she's convinced that he's going to wake up and take his "rightful" place.
(and with this show, who knows? He may well XD)
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Adal
March 3, 2015 at 8:00 AM
If that dad ever wakes up he ought to be locked in jail. It should be a crime to force a child to impersonate another's identity while locking said child up in the basement.
kyl
March 3, 2015 at 12:29 AM
I think it's not hard for someone as influential as the Grandmother to bribe a few pockets and change the sex in the registry. And yeah, she was practically waiting for her son to wake up to take over the company. Her dislike for her grandson is understandable somewhat because after all, her son is in coma because he wanted to rescue his son. Either that, or the Grandma's just crazy.
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thursdaynexxt
March 3, 2015 at 4:03 AM
About the grandmother grabbing the chance to swap Jun Pyo's son into the family register in place of Ri Jin - I'm trying to figure out the timing of it, as well as how long the abuse was going on.
We know that Min Seo-yeon made a frantic call to Mrs Oh to rescue her child (I think she said she had to board a plane or something?), then she died in the car accident. We know that Ri Jin in the basement told Do Hyun that her mother was coming for her in 3 days, and he replied that her mother wasn't coming, because she was dead. Then the fire happened presumably not long after.
I think that Ri Jin was locked up in the basement for longer than 3 days, since she and Do Hyun developed such a strong bond and memories about meeting at 10pm each night, and the toy trains, etc.
Her mother Seo-yeon was in a panic before she died - I don't know if she knew about Ri Jin's abuse/imprisonment, but I think she suspected what the Grandmother was scheming.
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thursdaynexxt
March 3, 2015 at 5:07 AM
Forgot to add: I also think it's highly possible that Grandmonster/Chairwoman may have tampered with the car, and that caused the accident which killed Min Seo Yeon and the Chairman. Grandmother only cares about Jun Pyo anyway.
Emma
March 2, 2015 at 8:33 PM
The point of switching the children is that now the male child (the child of Jun Pyo, but out of wedlock) is the official heir. Hence the male blood line is respected.
Before the switch is was the girl who was the official heir but she is not the chil of Jun Pyo.
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16 avenus
March 2, 2015 at 3:18 PM
Intense! I had goosebumps after watching this episode. I just love love love this drama and I don't know what to do when this is over.
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 4:30 PM
me too, I guess I'll be waiting for the next project from this sweet OTP after this is over, hope its not in a very long time
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17 Dorotka
March 2, 2015 at 3:23 PM
Thank you,Saya,for expressing my thoughts when I read comments for the previous episode. I too think that the child abuse is such a serious matter that I found it right that these 2 episodes were so serious (just give me Yuna later!).
I also think that Do Hyun's decision to release Ri Jin has more to do with his guilt for what his family did to her. And here I also want to defend Rion - If I found my sister were with a person whose family abused her, I would very likely want her to be as far as possible from that person...and from any member of that family.
That twist at the end... wow, writers!
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redfox
March 2, 2015 at 3:25 PM
but that person was the one who tried to defend her, failing only because he was also a scared child. if anything, keep BOTH away from the family and give the guy a shelter in your own
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Dorotka
March 2, 2015 at 3:41 PM
I'm sorry, redfox, but I can't agree here with you. I know your point sounds rational, but that's not always how it works. As a mother of a kid who was bullied at school, believe me, there is a lot of emotions included. After 3 years of changing the school I still have difficulties to pass the old school (and it is just an innocent building ;--) ). Not mentioning avoiding teachers and parents from that school...
It just causes a lot of pain...
So... I actually find Rion quite patient with Do Hyun...
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redfox
March 2, 2015 at 3:59 PM
you might not agree but I still think there should be a clear difference. just as well to say everything is guilty. but there is a perpetrator and even if someone was a bystander, if they were too weak to stand up, how are they guilty?
ah but so OH Ri Jin was the origin of cha do hyun
I feel so stupid it was just a little step further
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plumwine
March 4, 2015 at 5:34 AM
I have to agree with Dorotka on this. While it would be admirable to bring Do Hyun in to the family, his family is not just going to let him go (mom for power, grandmonster for seat warming). Ri On has been quite mature with Do Hyun and the situation. The fact that he went so far as to say that he felt Do Hyun was a victim too and not laying any kind of blame or guilt on him is quite remarkable. He may also believe that if Ri Jin is with Do Hyun it my also make things (emotionally and family wise) more difficult for him.
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jomo143
March 2, 2015 at 4:10 PM
I am curious how much ORION knows.
Does his family know ORJ was abused?
If the adults knew because maybe ORJ was bruised and a doctor found other evidence, why share that info with the same aged brother, and when would they tell him, and again, why at all?
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IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 4:17 PM
I don't think Rion knew for sure that Rijin was abused. He may have suspected it. Because at the end of ep 15 when Dohyun said the words "It wasn't her fault she was abused", Rion teared up along with Dohyun. It seemed like then his suspicions were unfortunately confirmed.
But i would like to know just exactly how much he does know and how he got to know about it? How did he get that picture of Rijin and her mom? How did he figure out that she was Seoyeon's daughter, if no record of such a child exists anywhere?
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Rain
March 2, 2015 at 4:19 PM
i remember Orion said to Rijin, "never mention Seungjin Group or name of Cha Do Hyun in front of our parents"
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IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 4:25 PM
Which indicates her parents will react badly to that. I wonder if they knew that her original name was Cha Dohyun? Or the horrors she experienced in the basement?
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jomo143
March 2, 2015 at 4:44 PM
It's kind of amazing everyone has managed to keep that fact from them so far. The tiniest little slip and they would have flown across town and pulled her from that house.
Nothing against CDH, but they must HATE the whole SJ clan.
gf
March 2, 2015 at 4:55 PM
these are very good questions especially about what is really the extent of Ri On's knowledge regarding Ri Jin's past. hopefully we get our answer this week.
it's time for Ri Jin's family to find out that she did work for CDH and Seungjin Group.
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IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 5:01 PM
Just think of how easy it would be to figure everything out if everyone was privy to all the secrets. They should all just sit around a table and take turns playing the truth game. xD
thursdaynexxt
March 3, 2015 at 3:45 AM
Oh Ri On must know/suspect quite a bit from early on, since Ri Jin used to tell him all her nightmares, which he re-interpreted into 'harmless' memories for her.
Since she used to be scared of basements, and her adoptive parents used to send the twins down on errands together, to encourage her to get over it, then Ri On would also have seen that vulnerable side to her.
He probably wasn't 100% certain about the abuse until Cha Do Hyun told him at the hospital, but he at least suspected enough about the Chairman and Min Seo-yeon's affair to know that Ri Jin was a Seungjin heir, but was abandoned by the family. (I don't think he knows about MSY's phone call to Mrs Oh, though.)
I suspect the parents also know a lot more than they've revealed. They get a panicked call like that from Min Seo-yeon to come 'rescue' her child, and then decide to keep her and raise her after her mother died (rather than returning Ri Jin to the manor house) - they must have known the situation was dire.
The fact that they made Ri On and Ri Jin twins was also another way to ensure to camouflage her true identity and protect her that way (while making sure the neighbours didn't wonder about how a 2nd child suddenly appeared).
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plumwine
March 4, 2015 at 5:40 AM
I think you are spot on how Ri On began to suspect her being abused. I also seem to remember something about him over hearing a conversation when he was younger (not shown) about his parents talking about the Seungjin group so he might have put that together since he has known that she is not his sister.
Yeah, the parents are going to freak when they find out who Perry Park really is. (Whatever his real name may be.)
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18 wildfly
March 2, 2015 at 3:23 PM
Agree eith everything except your HP parallel. Betray her son like the weak, boot-licking rat did with the potters? Never! @Saya, dont say so, it's aint so! Mom does what is best for him. And what can be best than gaining seyoin group? (she is like oh ri on, everything he does is also in the best interests of his sis.) Mom is a tigress, fighting for cdy's best interests as she interprets them.
The writers did their outmost to explain that CDY/SSG's mom is vulgar, ambitious, her world is simple, without comlex emotions and ethics. plus the mistress probably knows well how it feels, being poor and on the bottom.
AND she hates oh ri jin as much as daddy dearest. So what's the problem? Those who stand in the way of her son should be stepped on. She'll deal with her laughably refined baby with those negligible moral principles and weakness for the daughter of her mortal enemy, that woman. ..and they'll live happily when they reach the top. Being rich, powerful - that's everything to strive for, no? I dont think she even understans why he is so upset with her, lol. But she doesnt strike me as weak, more like ignorant, incapable of feeling emotions other than hate, jealousy, and desire. In her book, oh ri jin is the intruder, she has no rights by blood, so. .. It's necessary to 'take back' the name she has no right for.
As about gram, she is more like narcissa black. A bigot, yes. Blindly loving her worthless son who left cuz daddy ( again, daddy issues) havent treated him well.
Gramos thought the wife was more competent. And now granny has to deal with the mess, with an unproper grandson whose mother cant even behave in society. And her son is in coma. Uhhh...
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jomo143
March 2, 2015 at 4:13 PM
Love your words!
I love how cheap mom is, and lives up to her trashy act every time she can.
My husband started watching KMHM recently. Every time I walk by and that face is on the screen, I cringe and say, "OMG I HATE YOU." He has to discover yet her evil core.
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blszin
March 2, 2015 at 4:27 PM
this!!! +1
agree with every word you said!
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bbeth
March 3, 2015 at 10:33 AM
The mom's arc was really well developed too -
At first, she was just drinking and living high on the family's money even putting up with Grandma's scorn and the put downs from the other rich ladies.
But when Do-hyun started to act a bit differently, she realized that her situation & future wasn't that certain (that Do-hyun would be successor & set her up for life) so she begins to go into tactical mode: keep tabs on Jun-pyo, scheme with Ki-joon's dad, beg Grandma, suss out what Ri-jin is (before knowing that she was Min Seo-yeon's daughter).....whatever will work, whatever will keep her in money and fine wine, she will do. Even if Jun-pyo had been in love with Min Seo-yeon, she will still want to have his child b/c that's her meal ticket for high living.
So it was a great shift to kind of take a second look at mom... from being useless and drunk to someone who's a player (power player? in a small way) in this game too.
BUT what happened to Chae-yeon? and Ki-joon? their stories kind of got dropped for a bit.
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wildfly
March 3, 2015 at 11:32 AM
I am not sure she likes it there. Also not sure she is drinkin cuz of good life. She dropped a line a few episodes ago about if CDY is out of the gane '...then me enduring the life in this mansion all this years was in vain...' I think she loved CDY's dad and she does all her scheming / blackmail for her kid. About the second couple - looks like ki jon's parents know clearly nothin about what happened back then at the mansion I have no idea what role this branch will play in the last episodes. .. ki jon clearly loves his ex - fiance, but that girl has absolutely no depth and ive no idea what'll they do with her character...
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19 Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 3:33 PM
Thanks Saya for the recap. It is a pleasant surprise to read it early in the morningX (I woke up too early today.)
As much as I would like to complain about previous episode for going the normal k routine, the last twist is a great redemption. The magic is not lost yet!
*cough*
So it is all about answers in this episode.
I was almost anticipating for Rijin's reaction. Like last ep recap, I see we all know how family impacted Rijin to deal with horrible people and terrible doings. The set up- warmth oh family paid off. This heroine clearly knows what she wants and upon knowing the truth slowly, we can see her getting stronger and coping better. (Kudos to HJE, she is so good at her job. Her transition is so smooth that I couldn't even!!!)
In contrast, Oh Mum is 100% opposite of "Do Hyun" Mum (I don't know what to call him anymore :(). She did her best even if it hurt her. I cheered alittle because "DH" Mum is such a disappointment. ? this ep clearly did not redeeming her at all.
As for Grandma, I always know she knows that there is something mental about "DH" (cue for Secretary Ahn) but what I didn't REALISE is grandma did know "DH" took over the real DH's identity after the fire. It took me a while to digest and realise her nasty treatment to her grandson is actually justifiable. She don't hate "DH", she "emotionally transferrence" from real DH to "DH". I could only imagine her angst while facing "DH". While she would love her grandson, the existence of Cha Do Hyun destroyed her family. All the time "DH" was assuring her that he is Do Hyun felt like double slap on her face. I actually sympthatize with her after this episode. All the talks between Mum and grandma made sense and I can't wait for the confession scene.
Segi is really far more noble than I credited him for. His whole existence was motivated, not only by hate, but most of it was to protect Do Hyun- both Do Hyuns. No wonder he only want to reveal the truth, if and only if, Rijin choose him. It felt more like covering up for Rijin rather than "DH". (Choose Segi: let RJ knows she is DH; Choose "DH": RJ is comfortable with the lies of her identity just like his "DH") Haha. I could imgaine how frustrated he is when he heard the DH = Segi talk because he knows clearly DH is one of the alter created. LOL. And all the "covering up" and "you are not strong enough to face the pain" talk between "DH" and Segi felt, in my most humble opinion, was actually Segi talking to the Rijin because he thinks exactly like "DH"- Rijin couldn't handle the pain. This is the major troll on multiple level if I also include the wheel of fortune. #wellplayed
This episode left me very satisfied even though the first half is a really sad snow train date and yes, I did hope that "DH" would hold Rijin's hand like Rijij always did. But it is also a metaphor thst Rijin have not reconcile with her past yet.
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 3:38 PM
And I felt the need to say this: every week of KMHM REALLY LIKE
KILL ME HEAL ME NAME ME. This identity thing is so confusing. HAHAH.
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 4:38 PM
LOL I'm so with you in this KILL ME HEAL ME NAME ME, but at the end I want KISS ME will be added in that
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 7:44 PM
Yes me too!!! It is so rare for me to actually wait for the hollywood style Big finale kiss in a drama!! I can't wait for Kiss Me to join the fun!
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redfox
March 5, 2015 at 12:18 PM
wasn´t there a U2 song... "kiss me kill me love me thrill me" something or... was it U2? not my fav band so... forgive me if I am mistaken
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Aria
March 2, 2015 at 4:42 PM
so true!!!
This show really lives up to its title!!!
Although I would looovee it to go on forever, (I know I'm being selfish here..haha) I would love to see how they bth overcome this trials they've been having and end up happily ever after satisfyingly :)
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 7:47 PM
Yes me too!!! SAME HERE. I'm dying for The next ep but I think it's killing me. This is the biggest dilemma I ever had through its run.
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IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 3:49 PM
Oh mom and Shin Hwaran are really good educational examples of 'what to be' and 'what not to be' for new mothers. I can't even tell if Dohyun's mom has ever put her son before herself in his entire self. She seems to (mistakenly) see her greed and thirst for power as a way of loving Dohyun and giving him what he (doesn't) want.
What you said about Seki could be true. But, can we say with certainty that Seki is the dominant personality? His words of how he would die when 'Dohyun' is able to handle the pain suggests that he is an alter.
Though I'm pretty sure Dohyun's original name could be Shin Seki, the personality of the child we've seen so far in the flashbacks is more consistent with that of 'Dohyun's' than seki's. Don't you think?
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jomo143
March 2, 2015 at 4:16 PM
I agree. Shin Se-gi may be his original name, but it definitely an alter personality, not the main one.
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 4:25 PM
Yes!!! Omg. Shin Hwaran needs to be educated on how to be a Mum. At this stage, she made me feel disgusted with her. Grandma maybe cold, Daddy is a abuser but she is the real culprit that responsible for "DH" DID. IMO, she is actually the monster in the family.
As for whether Segi is the dominant personality, I don't wish speculate because I know Writer nim is going troll us again. (LOL).
Having said that, I do see Segi x Rijin like mini Joon Pyo x mini Min Seo. Segi has his insecurity but I think he hasn't developed into a really violent person in the drama so far because of Rijin's assurance and unable to decide between "DH" and him unlike Min Seo. It is same but not the same tactics theme throughout the drama.
But I hope for Mr X theory to happen. He is the only person who don't have a name now. Honestly, I think he is going to appear in the first scene of the episode because "DH" is no longer "DH" (¬_¬). I believe his real name is Shin Segi too but only Writer nim knows it is true or not.
What sadden most was- like what you said: he knows DH will be killed off. This twist is something that I never see it coming just like when Segi is about to disappear. I felt that Do Hyun is a character that is doomed from the beginning. She couldn't surivive in any kind of existence and Rijin is her alter that could save her from all these darkness. I need to hug Rina now. :(
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IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 4:32 PM
I don't know if we can consider Segi as completely mini-joonpyo because though Segi is hot tempered and violent we've been told in the beginning that he wouldn't hurt women and children. In joon pyo his insecurities and low sense of self worth manifested as rage and hatred towards the little girl, for being like her mother.
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 4:59 PM
Hmm.. I think it was said that Joon Pyo is actually a very nice man initially that wouldn't lay a hand on children (but then it could be lies of "DH" mum). But it is his unrequited love with Min Seo (min Seo already choose another man) that trigger him turning into a monster.
And we see Segi who is obsessed with Rijin and Rijin have not choose between him and "DH". He wanted to destroy "DH" and targeted Chaeyeon (woman) when he got so jealous after realizing Rijin is in love with "DH". If Rijin had told him she made her choice, Segi might turn into abuser too.
But we don't see him really destroyed his world in the drama so far is probably because Segi has a 28 year body, think like a teenager and behaves like a 7 year old kid.
Do I make sense to you? :/
IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 5:10 PM
@Beebeeshing
That does make sense. In a way.I do understand where you're trying to draw the parallel.
I would take anything that comes out of DH's mom with a grain of salt.
Segi does target Chaeyeon but I don't think he ever meant to physically hurt her. I think his goal there was to torture DH with the idea that he might. What he does do is manipulate her emotions rather cleverly.
But do you think that Segi - who handled the guilt and pain over not being able to protect Rijin and harbored rage over him being saved instead of her- would ever really abuse Rijin? Subject her to the same hell that he is so tortured over not saving her fro the last time around? Especially when Segi is as you said in a body of a 28 year old but behaves like a 7 year old.
Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 7:18 PM
@IncognitoIris
"I would take anything that comes out of DH’s mom with a grain of salt."
LOL. Don't make me laughed so bad!!
Of course Segi is not going to hurt Rijin. I highly doubt so. He is doing exactly the opposite Joon Pyo did.
Jp locked DH (RJ) in basement and punish her for "DH" mistake.
Segi ask RJ to leave the house immediately upon knowing her heart siding "DH" and leave her unharmed while he wants to punish "DH" mistake.
What I mean is:
Joon Pyo = Segi
Min Seo = Rijin
Chaeyeon = the real DH ("little Rijin)
"DH" is just "DH"
you see, JP never do anything physical to MS even though he knows his love is unrequited. (Segi and Rijin). JP is obsessed with MS while Segi is obsessed with RJ. But he is abusive to people who destroy his world (Segi and "DH": this case, Segi blamed "DH" for RJ's heart and JP only left with the product RJ of his love leaving him.) so JP tortured "DH" by torturing DH (RJ) while Segi tortured "DH" by targeting CY. But on another note, let's not forget Segi was abusive to Dr Chipmunk because his existence was a threat to him (reference to 2nd episode) since he could destroy all alters (if "DH" receive treatment) or kill Segi's existence solely.
They are doing exactly the same thing but why I said that Segi is a 7 year old kid is because he only wanted a childish revenge on "DH" and RJ like he thought "DH" manipulated RJ's feelings (Which is a relief, honestly!!) If Segi has a mind of 28 years old, the revenge could be so much worse. :/
plumwine
March 4, 2015 at 6:04 AM
I don't think either DH's mom or his father saw little Ri Jin as a child, female, or a human being. 'It' was an obstacle and source of shame/failure respectively.
beebeeshing
March 5, 2015 at 12:16 AM
@PlumWine:
I agree with you too but it is a larger scale, he simply hate her existence. But I've watched ep 17 so it does changed my perspective in this show. D:
Rain
March 2, 2015 at 5:15 PM
Yo-Na please come out and pull that momster's hair for god sake!!!
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 5:29 PM
LOL...and Perry give her bombs please
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM
@Rain & @lara4liwa
Yes I agree!!! Omg!!! I didn't realize how much miss them until you guys mention it. ಥ_ಥ
Izzy
March 2, 2015 at 8:27 PM
hahahaha
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Emma
March 2, 2015 at 6:30 PM
DH (JiSung) is not an "alter". He is the main personna who did create alters including the one personnifying his emotions (including SeGi who almost certainly bear his real name and personnify rage, anger and survival, IMO)
It's "just" that DoHyun (JiSung) he has no "official identity" (animore/yet).
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 8:44 PM
I mean "Do Hyun" is an identity jointly created by the Cha family (Grandma and Mom). "Do Hyun" was placed to replace the real Do Hyun and protect Joon Pyo's seat in Seungjin Group.
(HAHAH, can I just laughed at what I am typing. It is so confusing)
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Adal
March 3, 2015 at 8:12 AM
Very good points Beebeeshing. You put things in a different light than I'd previously seen before.
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plumwine
March 4, 2015 at 5:52 AM
Wow! Your paragraph on Se Gi was amazing. I never saw it that way, but it makes absolute total sense. The depth of thought on choosing 'DH" is complex. What amazes me is that Se Gi knows all this and is trying to get her to remember that she is 'DH'. What an amazing writer and thank you for bringing more depth to all this identity confusion.
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beebeeshing
March 5, 2015 at 12:17 AM
Thank you @Adal and @PlumWine. :D
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20 nil
March 2, 2015 at 3:34 PM
out of the story, lets imagine how hard for those wikipedia/dramawiki/smth similar contributors to write about the cast of this drama.
the male lead acts as 7 different characters, and share the "real character" out of those 7 with the female lead.
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thursdaynexxt
March 3, 2015 at 4:10 AM
difficult to do indeed, without giving away spoilers! At least it partly explains why 2 of his 7 personalities are girls...
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21 IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 3:35 PM
Thanks for the awesome recap Saya!
Jisung has been killing it in this show but it would be unfair not to mention how well Hwang Jungeum portrays Rijin. You are right, this was her episode through and through and boy am I glad it was.
Rijin's character is someone bright and lovely strengthened with courage, with excellent presence of mind and ready to face whatever may come her way. Its truly wonderful to watch Jungeum emote all these refreshing characteristics in Rijin so well. HJE FTW! :)
Oyy that twist! Did not see it coming. Pure genius. Makes me realize that nothing is worthless trivia in this show. Everything has been carefully laid out and the writer has woven an intricate and elegant web that now seems to be collapsing atop poor Dohyun.
After that scene it just makes his multiple assertions of 'Cha Do hyun-immida' so so sad.
I can't imagine how that must feel for him. He's finally figuring out how to connect the disjoint and horrifying memories in his head and starting to stand up tall to face it all, only for the one thing he's been sure of all this while to be proved false. Like pulling the rug out from under your feet.
The thing about KMHM is that with each answer it presents, it leaves us with even more questions. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. Because that keeps me guessing and forming multiple theories in my head. Its rewarding to be proved right and even more gratifying to be proved false. especially with twists like these.
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redfox
March 2, 2015 at 3:40 PM
yeah, she is so great here. even though I was angry at the guys I was proud of Ri Jin!
and the Mom moment, I went weak in the legs.
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IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 3:54 PM
You're not going to tell me anything Big bro? Fine. I'll just figure it out myself thank you. A girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do. :)
The mom moment was really sweet and filled with emotion to the brim in a very subtle way. I love scenes like those.
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thursdaynexxt
March 3, 2015 at 4:43 AM
"After that scene it just makes his multiple assertions of ‘Cha Do hyun-immida’ so so sad. I can’t imagine how that must feel for him. He’s finally figuring out how to connect the disjoint and horrifying memories in his head and starting to stand up tall to face it all, only for the one thing he’s been sure of all this while to be proved false. Like pulling the rug out from under your feet."
Well said, and completely agree, @IncognitoIris! That phrase 'Cha Do hyun-immida’ was the only certainty that he (and us viewers) had, and now that's totally gone in one moment.
I can't even begin to describe how despicable the Seungjiin adults are - it's beyond words how they could collaborate in child abuse and imprisonment, then not look for the missing child after the fire, and on top of all that, not care that they heaped so much emotional trauma on the kids that Do Hyun's personality disintegrated, and Ri Jin repressed her memories altogether!
Couldn't resist posting a collection of happier CDH moments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL93aPhMeZI
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plumwine
March 4, 2015 at 6:13 AM
LoL! Thank you. Really brings home the heartbreak from this last episode but still funny as well.
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22 Hazelnuts
March 2, 2015 at 3:36 PM
Wth
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plumwine
March 4, 2015 at 6:15 AM
Right there with you.
Couldn't stop swearing one word over and over, then told my daughter she was right not to watch till it's complete because here mind will be....blown.
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23 lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 3:52 PM
thank u for another thoughtful recap Saya, expecially for this episode, love your Nietzschean part, as you said --the idea that “only something which continues to hurt stays in the memory” makes a triangle of memory, guilt and pain — a trifecta that is at the root of the majority of ills in this show-- so true, I believe with all my heart that its necessary for them to be apart, because we all need to see their journey on how to overcome all the tragedy and sadness in the past, and then find their way back to each other, that we'll be our joyous and proud moment for both our beloved OTP
I can help but to rewatch our OTP moment of separation in Secret after I watched this episode, and I found myself crying all over again, both moment are very very sorrowful to me, and each moment of separation has its own purpose for them, I have to admit that this show making me crying a liter of tears more than any other melo show, I really do hope their journey will wrap up into a beautiful and satisfying ending huhuhu *sobs
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 4:32 PM
Me too. I have to watch Secret to cope with the OTP separation while waiting for the latest episode to released.
I really want a good and beautiful ending for our OTP because of all the pains and sufferings they experienced, they truly deserved a happy ending. Even if it is not a happily ever after, I hope to see a fresh start for our OTP and hope for good future. :')
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jomo143
March 2, 2015 at 4:42 PM
I watched Secret and decided that MH is sexier than CDH.
Maybe because he was a mix of SSG and CDH.
JS really had fun in that role; almost as much fun as this one.
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 7:26 PM
Yes! I have to agree. HIS PUPPY EYES ASKING MY TO SAVE HIM IS SO IMPRESSIONABLE.
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 4:54 PM
jomo, maybe that kind of guy Mr. X will be, whoah the mixture of DY and SG, just like MY woohooo
watching both show, I feel that JS as MY and DY and SG, and HJE as YJ and RJ are totally different person, their acting skill are unquestionable
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Aria
March 2, 2015 at 4:46 PM
Me too..I think I have watched Secret 3 or 4 times each week waiting for the next episodes..haha..
I know others think that It may be too much but I never get bored with our OTP!!!
I agree that they made me cry in buckets here I forgot that it was originally their cup of tea together, making these beautifully acted melo scenes..
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 4:56 PM
so true Aria, this show is so worth of our tears tho...LOL
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Aria
March 2, 2015 at 4:59 PM
^@lara4liwa
Truly worth every single drop of it!!
now I'm even making up on what drama or project they might end up being together in :)
Sooooo gonna watch it if this ever comes true :)
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thursdaynexxt
March 3, 2015 at 4:45 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only one crazily re-watching "Secret" again and again!
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24 KDaddict?JCW
March 2, 2015 at 4:00 PM
The male DH is the child of a mistress, so he shouldn't have been in the family register. They changed his name into DH and made him a proper heir. That's his mom's hold over this corp., and the reason she can live in the big house w evil Grandma.
The female, original DH was done away w, in 2 strokes:
1, a fire that was meant to kill her;
2, once she is gone, have her place in the family register taken over by another child, making it impossible for her to return.
But then, if she was not the child of the comatose man, then she wouldn't be eligible to be in the family register anyway. Wouldn't it have been easier just to divorce the wife, and send away the little girl born out of 'adultery'? Or would they rather commit murder than risk tarnishing the corp's name n image w a divorce?
Seems that this writer likes to surprise us. I think in the end, the girl could still turn out to be the real descendent, while the male DH could be another man's child, completely unrelated to this Seung On Group, if the writer has a final twist and surprise for us.
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IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 4:07 PM
With this writer? Anything is possible.
But I get the feeling that the scowling chairman fits into all of this somewhere. We know he preferred his daughter-in-law over his own son and grandma was NOT okay with that, so maybe he left a will or something stating Cha Dohyun(Rijin) as an heir to Seungjin, or maybe he left a large portion of it to her. Which must not have sat well with granny deary. That could explain the motive behind the fire and the name switching.
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bbstl 🧹
March 2, 2015 at 5:06 PM
EXACTLY. I will be really disappointed if Grandpa doesn't end up being the Biggest Bad after seeing his giant menacing head looming over them all the whole show.
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rainingsoju
March 2, 2015 at 5:44 PM
I thought it too. There can be a will where the deceased chairman might have chose the Cha Do Hyun(Rijin) stated in the family register as his heir. So it would be more reasonable why grandma and shin hwa ran are going gaga to get rid Min So Yeon's child. This drama just keeps on getting interesting in every turn of events. If only they can extend to 4 more or so episodes...
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wildfly
March 3, 2015 at 1:43 AM
That is a good theory. If it's gram who killed rijin's mom and tried to get rid of the kid then she did it for her son.... and the mistress was the witness. Only her plan backfired and now her son is in a coma.
I personally hoped for an affair between gramps and ri jin's mom, but I dont think that'll be the direction.
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25 August
March 2, 2015 at 4:02 PM
Episode 16's ending — what a revelation & unexpected plot twist. Just awesome! Totally didn't see that coming. Simply incredible. Daebak!
Don't you just love it when a writer or kdrama for that matter is still able to surprise you with something out of left field that totally works and blows your mind because of how clever and great the execution is. Especially nowadays.
Some viewers complained about the amount of flashbacks that kept cropping up in some of the KMHM episodes. In my opinion, they served a purpose and tied everything together. I feel like my patience was rewarded.
KMHM is nearing the finishline and you can tell writer Jin Soo-Wan didn't just wait till the last minute to throw stuff together and string viewers along. Episode 16 convinced me that this screenwriter has a complete narrative/story script-wise.
Hats off for pre-planning, having a storyboard, linking plot points/scenes past & present that actually connect, and great pacing of truth reveals/revelations. CDH's & ORJ's memories, emotions, and memorable lines of dialogue/scenes to mirror and expound upon down the line. The audience experiencing with the characters... the tying in of all the clues from past episodes and then having to deal with all the emotions now at the forefront.
Hopefully writer Jin Soo-Wan can keep this up and won't run out of steam creatively and left grasping at straws for the finale episodes.
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 4:14 PM
I could not agree more with everything you said August, love your words of the making and writing of this drama
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August
March 5, 2015 at 3:22 PM
Thanks lara4liwa :)
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jomo143
March 2, 2015 at 4:21 PM
Agree completely!
So don't you all wonder what about this script repulsed so many actors before Ji Sung? You'd think they be chomping at the bit to take part in this tightly woven plot with humor and pathos?
Maybe they just couldn't see themselves pulling off a CDH, Perry Park, SG and YN in one 60 minute window?
Or someone read it and said "You're nuts not to ask Ji Sung to read for it."
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IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 4:39 PM
I've been curious about that for a while now. With the way the actors dropped the script like hot potato, it seemed certain that the plot would be weak. But that's so not true. So maybe they weren't all that confident in their set of skills.
But I'm not complaining. In fact I coulsn't be more grateful.Thank you Hyunbin. Thank you Seungi. For giving us the opportunity to appreciate what a wonderful gem Jisung truly is, and drool a little (fine! A LOT) at his shades of awesome hotness. ^.^
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Rain
March 2, 2015 at 5:19 PM
YESSSS! Thank you Hyunbin, Thank you Seunggi for drop this show. Ji sung and KMHM are match made in heaven!
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 5:34 PM
+ 1
same here
aoisakura
March 2, 2015 at 5:41 PM
Right-on!??
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thursdaynexxt
March 3, 2015 at 4:48 AM
Even as Ahn Yo Na he makes this noona drool! No-one but Ji Sung!
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August
March 5, 2015 at 3:25 PM
It does make you wonder & I'm curious about that too. I think most of us would agree that everything worked out for the best with KMHM.
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Aria
March 2, 2015 at 4:48 PM
Agree 100% !!!
If this ends up satisfyingly, I'll always make sure to watch whatever this writer comes up as his next project :)
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 5:35 PM
+ 10000000
DEAL!!!!
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26 Hipployta
March 2, 2015 at 4:04 PM
This was an excellent recap
Also it appears I disagree with most of the commenters...I'm pretty sure that the "Cha Do Hyun" persona is the original personality but when he split himself and forgot his anger, frustration, and even his name that year emerged under his real name in the "Shin Segi" persona. The blending of the two of course removes this issue because "Do Hyun" will have the memories of powerlessness and anger of "Segi's" memories.
I saw the twist coming when Secretary Ahn gave him the registry but I was shocked it was right.
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IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 4:12 PM
It does seem like the personality of Dohyun is the dominant one. Perhaps the child Dohyun created Seki with his original name so that a part of him would never forget exactly what led to him being 'Dohyun'?
But I'm left scratching my head as to where the elusive Mr.X factors into all this.
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 4:43 PM
Hmm... I thought that Segi thought Do Hyun died in the fire so... "Do Hyun" is created to cope with his loss. In contrast to what Rijin said, Do Hyun is actually a piece that was removed from Segi. (Twist from writer nim).
As for Mr X theory, I thought Mr X is the completed personality of all alters. So Mr X come into place as a bigger and completed puzzle of him that is able to fight the evils in Cha Family.
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IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 4:56 PM
So Segi created 'Dohyun' in order to cope with the loss of Dohyun? How exactly does that work?
If Mr.X is the completed personality, that means he's yet to appear. But I get the feeling that he already has but we just haven't been shown.
Remember in Ep.14 when Dohyun ended up at the wine cellar in the mansion when the night before he was at the Oh's? His clothes were changed, his bedding was neatly folded up. Which makes me think that X came and went in between that time.
I could be wrong of course.
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 5:09 PM
He thought she died and so he created someone to take her over existence. It is like if someone lose their child, they would keep photos of their child to remember him/her. In this case, since the Cha family was determined to remove all her existence in the house and there is no way he can get anything to remember her, he created her identity in himself to remember his love/someone very important. His guilt is the main motivation for doing this probably because she had receive all the punishments instead of him and even her 'death'.
Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 5:11 PM
And I agree with you! even though we never get to see Mr X yet, I do believe that he is lurking around in the family. It is like he is always there but waiting for the right time to appear.
IncognitoIris
March 2, 2015 at 5:20 PM
Child Jisung created 'Dohyun' to remember her by and Segi? Or Segi created 'Dohyun'?
But if Segi created 'Dohyun' that would imply that he is the main persona and DH the alter. So then why would he behave otherwise?
At that point in the timeline, I'm assuming the name switch has already happened? So then the created 'Dohyun' becomes Dohyun; so to speak.
I don't know if I'm making any sense. Lol.
Emma
March 2, 2015 at 6:16 PM
The little boy (name unknown now) was given the name of the little girl (Cha DoHyun, now RiJin)
He didn't "created" it, it was imposed on him by his family so he would be the child name on the family register. Then he became the official heir.
Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 6:44 PM
Yes @IncognitoIris! Thanks @emma for the correction. (I read it twice to realise I was confused.) I must apologise for my mistake. ಥ_ಥ I read this somewhere at soompi about why Segi was triggered at "DH" because the abusive father hit "Do Hyun" reminds of Joon Pyo's abusive treatment to the real Do Hyun.
Please invalidate my comments!
But your theory could be right. But as far as I see, Segi is seems like an alter who is always angry, guilty and helpless. There is always this loop hole in timeline on how "DH" turns into Segi and turns back to "DH" since the flashbacks shows "DH" is a nice mannered child. I have been waiting for the fire accident memory to appear to see it. ಥ_ಥ
shapby
March 3, 2015 at 5:34 AM
But is Mr. X a true personality? It could be that Mr. X is who DH is right now, after the end of episode 16.
It could be that, rather than a personality, Mr. X is the loss of identity that the main male character is suffering right now. He's not Do-hyun, because Do-hyun turned out to be Ri-jin's real name. He also can't be referred to Se-gi, because that's his second personality. So what do we call him now? We call him "Mr. X", as in "no name".
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Emma
March 3, 2015 at 7:53 AM
Yes, I think too.
Mr X (Mr No Name) = male DoHyun without memories + Shin Se gi's memories.
As Do Hyun get his memories back I think we will not see his alters anymore.
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plumwine
March 4, 2015 at 6:39 AM
While I'm now torn on if Mr. X is a separate personality or DH's name he was born with, I don't necessarily think regaining the memories will make all the personalities disappear.
As for the conundrum of who is DH - possibly when little DH was informed he was now to go by the the name DH he clung to it it as a way to 'live' for the little girl who he thought had died in the fire. Of course the trauma was to much for him so he forgot about the basement and everything else. However, Se Gi knows his name was not originally DH and remembers all the horrors that were brought to both children. His willingness to basically tell all the adults in his family to go to the nether worlds and making them regret saving him instead of the girl is his way of fighting back. Frankly, Se Gi is doing all that DH want's to do, but is too afraid to. - Perhaps in the beginning little DH subconsciously brainwashed himself to believe that if he doesn't behave properly they will get rid of him just like they got rid of the other DH.
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janeFr
March 2, 2015 at 10:08 PM
I think that series is the core personality, the owner of the body. That DH-boy (polite, obedient, responsible, perfect) is the alter persona forced on him by the parents. Somehow, SSG had to hide/recesse to protect DH-girl.
My understanding is Min Seo came back from the states with her love child in the summer. Said love child, DH-girl, was put on the family register and made the official heir by the grandfather. At that time, the grandmother believed DH-Girl to be her son's child.
Soon after that, the son came back with his own love child, SSG. probably threw a tantrum about DH-girl.
MS afraid for her girl asks her friends to rescue DH-girl. She is killed with the grandfather. Evil dad and grandmother decided to make DH-girl disappear. She is hidden in the basement and SSG takes her place. Months later, the Oh family take advantage of the fire and sneak in to rescue DH-girl.
My theory is that SSG felt that DH-girl disappeared was his fault, because he wasn't a good enough DH-boy and he punished himself by letting the DH-boy alter persona take the front seat.
adult SSG knew he was the real one, but choose to hide it to protect ORJ, since she had buried her memories of DH-girl.
I think that to heal, DH/SSG had to realize that official CDH was a persona.
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Ai
March 3, 2015 at 1:15 AM
You're not the only one. About Do Hyun being the original personality, that is. I think likewise too.
That "Cha Do Hyun" is the original personality with originally the name Shin Se-Gi. Like the child we have seen in the flashbacks. He has a polite, kind, gentle, obedient personality with an underlying heroic trait.
What I think is that when the boy whose name was likely Shin Se-Gi came out safe after the fire while the girl named Cha Do Hyun (Ri Jin) was presumed dead, the Cha family, the Grandma and Mum specifically, agreed to force upon the boy Shin Se-Gi, the name of Cha Do Hyun; Grandma so that his son's son is the one who inherits, Mum so that her son and thus her benefits a better life.
It was perhaps part of the reason why he first disassociated from himself in addition to the abusing, the fire. and the trauma of the girl Do Hyun (Ri Jin) dying while he lived. It's a trauma in an of itself, being forced the name Cha Do Hyun that was originally his playmate's girl Do Hyun who is the one to receive the punishments instead of him, Se-Gi and girl Do Hyun who is the one to die instead of him Se-Gi. The guilt he must have felt... So, his child mind perhaps couldn't cope with it all and perhaps in a way he was brainwashed by Grandma and Mum to first and foremost remember that his name is now Cha Do Hyun and to forget about whatever happened before and to forget that his name "Do Hyun" was someone else's.
But, a part of him just couldn't forget something all those things. How to? They are not small memories to forget, they are events humongous proportion. But to survive, he needs to. He needed to disassociated the of himself that remembers and went through it all and that was how Se-Gi came to be. Because the boy "Do Hyun" whose original name was most likely Shin Se-Gi needed to remember all those memories but at the same time he needed to not remember. So he disassociated a part of himself and the alter took his old name "Shin Se-Gi" because that too is a name he needed to forget along with the memories.
At the core of himself, the boy Shin Se-Gi is still the original Shin Se-Gi, only now with the name "Cha Do Hyun".
Am I making sense? I feel like I might not be making sense and is writing everything in one big circle (which technically it is, Cha Do Hyun who was once named Shin Se-Gi who is now and alter of a person named Cha Do Hyun).
I am already feeling dread that this enjoyable ride the show took us on is going to end and worried that it might not end cleanly as there's still so much things to goes through... an identity crisis when there's only 4 episodes left ><;
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plumwine
March 4, 2015 at 10:10 AM
You made sense.
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27 Rain
March 2, 2015 at 4:16 PM
Thanks for the recap, Saya! i'm with you on this!
Poor male CDH..
Now instead "Cha Do Hyun-imnida", maybe he can say, "i dont know-my-name-imnida" or "something-else-imnida"
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 8:36 PM
LOL..dont know to laugh or cry on this sad shocking funny twist, should I add "who am I imnida" gosssh
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wildfly
March 2, 2015 at 9:18 PM
LOL. Thats why mr 'X' I think.
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28 gf
March 2, 2015 at 4:31 PM
thank you saya and purplecow for the recap! really appreciate it.
whatever happens with the 4 episodes left of KMHM, I will be there all the way because this drama gave me so much laughter, joy and tears!!! to say that I just love it is an understatement! hehehe it is definitely one of my all time faves. I will re watch it again with my Grandma (she loves to watch Korean drama too).
hopefully the last 4 episodes will be binded beautifully together too to give us a very memorable and awesome ending :)
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Aria
March 2, 2015 at 4:50 PM
T.T me too!!!
I might shed tears in the ending but I'm pretty much sure those will be tears of joy for our OTP and for having been able to watch this awesome show :)
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM
@gf @Aria welcome to the dying to see KMHM happy ending club...LOL
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gf
March 2, 2015 at 8:27 PM
I will bet my life we will get a more than marvellous happy ending because CDH and ORJ deserves it!!!!!!
I wouldn't mind a complete family with 7 kids named after all the personalities hahahahaha
drama God's what do you think? ;)
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29 Aria
March 2, 2015 at 4:31 PM
thank you very much for the recap Saya!!!
This writernim sure knows how to throw a BOMB!!
I mean, who would have thought of that twist?
And may I just applaud Hwang Jung Eum here :)
This is her episode, I believe..
Amidst all the heartbreaks and haunting flaskbacks, she made it through!!!
What a smart and brave girl.
Now, can we just put them together again?
They need to be together to heal each other..
You are spot on there Saya!
This show really is about
Dissociative 'IDENTITY' Disorder,and I should have known it all along that it revolves in that particular word :)
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 4:35 PM
LOL. Yeah. Even Ki joon's company is called ID entertainment. It is everywhere in the drama!! :D
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aoisakura
March 2, 2015 at 5:37 PM
LOL ? .. the first time I heard from the early episodes that CDH is the VP in ID entertainment, I was like? Oh man Mr. Writer is really obsessed with DID.. because everything is silently intertwine
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 5:41 PM
after you guys mention it here, I never ever suspect it, wow writer-nim just woow
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 7:33 PM
Yes yes! I felt like the writer already hinted us that "DH" is never the rightful heir of Seungjin from the beginning (except that I totally didn't catch the hint at all) and he just become VP instead of President is like a parallel world in his Cha Family. I didn't know how meaningful his first speech in the meeting until story unfolds itself. He came back from America to face unforeseen circumstances and find his identity.
im so excited for the episode tomorrow already!
plumwine
March 4, 2015 at 10:13 AM
Totally missed that! This is why I love being a beanie.
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Aria
March 2, 2015 at 4:51 PM
^haha @Beebeeshing
Yeah!!!!
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 5:38 PM
yeaah Aria, this is ORJ moments, I cant forget her almost crying face at the beach, she really get me there, you rocks girl!!!
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30 jomo143
March 2, 2015 at 4:38 PM
Wow! Reading this really added to my enjoyment of the episode which keeps haunting me. I have only watched it once, but I know I will again before 17.
Melos are so popular in SK I cannot be the only one who LOVES THE PAINFUL SEPARATION.
I am not kidding. Those episodes are what I look forward to the most because that is when all the lovey dovey love gets tested. Sure they can have fun sharing soup and drinking together, or taking care of the other one who is suddenly feverish, or cleaning up throw-up -yuck.
Once they are apart, my body just aches for them, and I can't stand how far apart they are, and I suffer so very much and I pretend I have never seen a Kdrama before and I pretend to believe they will never ever get back together again. Hurts so good.
When they are apart, we get lovely flashbacks that make me cry more, and I get an actual headache from the grief.
Ahhhhh! So cathartic, don't you think?
How can we have a joyful reunion without all the pain?
Meanwhile, wtf? Great great job writers, and great job staff for keeping it off the interwebs. Not even a sniff of a hint of a spoiler broke out before the end of 16 aired. They should all be proud.
I hope we don't get a time jump. I hope RJ gets to be involved in his reintegration rather than just seeing him after. It would be more climatic if she is there to see him become him - whoever that is!
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Aria
March 2, 2015 at 4:55 PM
true!!!
I love how Saya recapped this particular episode and made me love it even more :)
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 5:43 PM
love everything you said jomo, for me its so true that we wont have a joyful reunion, without all the pain of hurtful separation
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31 Danelle
March 2, 2015 at 5:04 PM
Mr X must be Ji Sung's new name to his previously named Cha Do Hyun alter. Because he has no name now, he is called Mr X.
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32 Shalini
March 2, 2015 at 5:20 PM
This is pure genius and officially escalated this show to Liar Game status, perhaps it’s even better in that it networks all genres seamlessly and effortlessly while Liar Game grabbed your throat and held it for the entirety of the episode, letting you only breathe at the end. Though that was today’s episode. I’m absolutely over the moon at this turn of events.
Seeing that Rijin is the real Cha Dohyun, that leaves the question of just what Dohyun’s real name is. Seeing that his mother’s name is Shin Hwa Ran, that really only leaves one possibility: Shin Segi. This is incredible. Not only does it give new meaning to Segi’s anger and frustration at being shut up in Dohyun/Ji Sung’s body, but it also makes Dohyun’s words to Segi much more eerie. You will soon become me…I will soon become you. Not only was that a promise but an eerie prediction of what the truth was. Dohyun is Segi, literally, figuratively, and legally. this makes Dohyun’s reinforcement of his name in previous episodes all the more more moving and sad, as it’s not his own. He has just lost the first bit of stability that he clung to. On the bright side, he’s just gained a new piece of himself: Segi.
But the question of the main personality remains. Just who is Cha Dohyun? Not just name-wise, but person-wise. What constitutes a dominant personality? Is the one who uses the body the most or the one that controls it? Dohyun is certainly the one that’s out the most, and honestly I do think that he’s the dominant personality, but this show has me on tenderhooks what with such a brilliant twist at this point in the game. Will Segi make a sudden return? Seeing that Dohyun doesn’t have ALL his memories just yet, Segi still lurks in there (Yay!) but what is he going to do now? So many questions! (But this is great!)
And just what does absorbing the personalities mean for Dohyun and each personality? Because face it, we’ve grown attached them at this point and so has Rijin. Inconvenient as they may be, they’re fully fledged people for the most part and having them absorbed is no different than them dying which would be rather painful to see, and is not really what I would call healing. I would love for Dohyun to simply be able to switch between personalities at random, managing them like one does unruly children. Being incomplete better than being dead though Yosub would disagree. If Dohyun could fully accept all of them as vital parts of himself that have made him the wonderful person he is today, and manage to control them in some manner…*sigh* as impractical as it sounds I would love for this to be true, and see Rijin take Yona shopping and be of quiet comfort to Yosub and save the world from Perry Park and smother Segi and Dohyun with kisses and play with them for as much and long as they’d like. How I’d love for this to come true.
But I’ve been talking about only Dohyun here. Rijin almost needs no words. She’s brave, bold, beautiful and brilliant. I can’t express how moving it was...
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Shalini
March 2, 2015 at 5:20 PM
I can’t express how moving it was to know that she’d known it was a farewell all along and she wasn’t buying whatever excuse Dohyun was cooking up and knew it had to do with her, with how much he loved her. She’s understandably angry with Ri on, who honestly couldn’t have told her anything anyway. I feel for both hurt siblings and hope that they realize (SOON) that they need to be on the same side. I love that Rijin is now finding her memories for herself as opposed to finding them just for Dohyun. Isn’t it strange, what a day can do? It makes her stronger in my eyes, to bear the brunt of that pain, knowing just how bad it’s going to be. And I wonder how both will react upon the revelation of Rijin’s true name. On thing’s for sure, I want them to do it, whatever it is, together. No more secret, no more bearing all the pain alone. Rijin and Dohyun are tied by the weight of their pain in the past, and need to overcome it together in the future. There’s no point in solo missions here. What with Ri On, now Dohyun’s staunch ally, and Secretary Ahn’s loyalty assured (right, show? right?) we have four people ready to take down Seungjin. And that worked pretty great with the Healer team.
Further thoughts plus muchas muchas screencaps over at: http://unstoppablesun.com/2015/02/27/kill-me-heal-me-ep-16-review-and-what-genius-is-this/
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 7:34 PM
This is VALID!!!
love all your thoroughly comments and recaps Shalini ^__^
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Shalini
March 4, 2015 at 5:06 PM
Thanks so much! <3 You seriously just made my day. Hope you enjoyed episode 17!
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33 BlueSky
March 2, 2015 at 5:43 PM
Thanks Saya!!!!!!!!! I ♥ your recap :)
This episde ends with a big Bang!!!
It showcased the greatness of RJ's character and showed her strength even more..
To the writer, hands down!!!
I love how this show makes me become more and more obsessed with it.
P.S
I love the part when DH & RJ were at the railrider and she tries to literally eat the air :) so cute :)
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 9:29 PM
+ 1
Agree with everything you said
P.S.
My fav part, sweet teasing moment on the train and separation moment at the beach
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BlueSky
March 2, 2015 at 9:58 PM
me too :)
And also, I am amazed at the moment RJ collapsed at the backyard of the Cha mansion, she delivered it so well!!! I'm so heartbroken when DH tried to reach out to her but it was to late.
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34 KimNaNa
March 2, 2015 at 5:44 PM
Some details don't match up to me. Min Seo Yeon called Mrs. Oh a few days prior to her car crash asking her to save her daughter. The way they said it, it seems like the Oh's picked up "Ri Jin", expecting Seo Yeon to come back for her, but she never did because she died. The fire happened -after- the car crash, so Ri Jin would no longer be in the basement at that time. Perhaps little "Do Hyun" thought she was still there and went to the basement to find her, but it was already in flames so he assumed she died/or that they failed to save her. But why did Grandma think that "Ri Jin" had died?
Also, wouldn't "Cha Do Hyun" (little Ri Jin) have her real father's name if she were Seo Yeon's lover's child? Why does she have Cha Joon Pyo's name? Did Seo Yeon lie to Grandma saying that Ri Jin was Joon Pyo's? And then the truth was confirmed when Joon Pyo returned, because he knew she was not his. Realizing her mistake, Grandma scrambled to cover it up. Things turned upside down, and Seo Yeon fled, begging the Oh's to take care of her daughter.
A lot of people are saying that Shin Se Gi is our MC's real name. I don't think it's a coincidence that he shares a surname with Shin Hwa Ran. Because he is illegitimate, he picked up his mother's name. Would that be correct? I'm not familiar enough with the Korean naming system, so let me know.
Since Ri Jin was born in the States, would she have an English name as well? And maybe it's far-fetched (or maybe people have guessed it already) could Perry Park be her dad? She told DH about her dad when they were kids, and he internalized the image.
Thank you for the recap! This show just continues to impress.
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KimNaNa
March 2, 2015 at 5:51 PM
Omg... I just realized what I said. I am so sorry if someone has guessed this yet but...
What if Ri Jin's real dad was still alive and he came back to Korea only to find that Seo Yeon was dead and his daughter was missing (taken by the Oh's), so in revenge, he set a bomb on the mansion?
What if he lived because Seungjin group paid for his surgery in return for Seo Yeon returning to Korea?
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35 Nichole
March 2, 2015 at 5:54 PM
I have to say this recap is much better than purplecow unjustified and unnecessary complaining about the show. Agree that this tradegy is not a topic to explain in lightheartedness. I throughly enjoyed the angst of this week show. :D
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Gabby
March 2, 2015 at 7:04 PM
It is unfair for you to accuse the recapper here when she actually DID explain them and made a well-thought out and valid breakdown of the show.
The one being "unjustified and unnecessary" is you here, to be frank.
I appreciate all recappers hardwork, and you should be thanking them then falsely accusing them.
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 7:37 PM
Yes I agree with Gabby. I like both Saya's and Purplecow's recaps. She did address the issues in details why she don't like it and I think it is perfectly fine. i think good or bad comments are good read because we get to see the flaws and gems in the drama but we love them anyway.
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BlueSky
March 2, 2015 at 10:05 PM
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion and we should all respect all of them :)
That said, even though we sometimes don't agree with everyone else, I don't think it will ever be an unnecessary comment because you can always learn new things with someone else's point of view.
Maybe you were just carried away with the emotions that's why you said your comment above chingu. But please try to understand that everyone is different from one another and we should always respect each other :)
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36 Emma
March 2, 2015 at 6:10 PM
"...the premise is only a comedy on the outside, but at its core, it’s always a tragedy."
So true... There was always an after taste in my mouth when an alter appeared... Yes, they 're "funny" (and I laughed a lot!) but... they are the symptom of a mental breakdown and as you say this breakdown is the result of a tragedy: one child wiped out and another so broken that he has to "create" alternate personalities to survive.
Kill me, Heal me is a tragedy indeed, as is any child abuse
Hopefully, we will not see any alter anymore: that would mean Do-Hyun (male) is healed (and with Ri-Jin!!!)
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37 songsong
March 2, 2015 at 6:38 PM
KMHM is such an interesting drama besides having a great cast!
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sonia
March 3, 2015 at 12:59 AM
i fully agree with you
♥ ♥ ♥ KILL ME HEAL ME ♥ ♥ ♥
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38 ByTheWay
March 2, 2015 at 7:21 PM
CDH: "The country I long for all the time, even though I left"
He's referring to Korea, right?
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KimNaNa
March 2, 2015 at 7:53 PM
I think it's a metaphor for Ri Jin :)
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jomo143
March 2, 2015 at 8:40 PM
It is a very strong metaphor at that.
Country is everything.
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wildfly
March 3, 2015 at 6:28 AM
Youre being very patriotic ;)
I dont think he has a sense of belonging. After all. He was in self-impised exile most of his life, essentially he is an outsider to his family and country. That's why rijin is her home & country, which is sappy, but I can understand the guy... "when I was young, I wondered why ppl wanna get rich instead of being friends with me..
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Miranda
March 2, 2015 at 8:00 PM
I think he's referring to Ri Jin: she was home to him as a child, and he missed her in some way ever since, and since finding her again he's once again felt comfortable and at home.
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ByTheWay
March 3, 2015 at 2:05 AM
@KimNaNa @jomo @Miranda
Oh, thanks! I really took it literally and I couldn't tell whether meant Korea or USA... dumb me
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39 Miranda
March 2, 2015 at 8:09 PM
Ah, I loved this episode. I loved that Ri Jin seemed to know something when they were walking on the mud flats (she says something like "by any chance, were you..." and it feels like she's going to ask if he's the boy she remembers playing with). I also loved that she sensed what was coming and didn't let CDH spring it on her. And that she then was so stone-faced with her brother...
Honestly, for a character I couldn't stand at first due to all the screaming, I've come all the way round with Ri Jin. She has a naive response to a lot of things, but around halfway through the drama that started looking like an act, and it's become a lot more clear as it turns out she knew she was adopted. Ri Jin wilfully doesn't acknowledge some things. It's not that she's too stupid to notice them, she just has an inside world and an outside world. Even though she seems straightforward to the outside world, it turns out she spends a fair amount of time thinking things through and then just tucking them away. It's a really cool character trait.
I am unreasonably excited that Shin Se Gi might actually be the original name of CDH. I have a pet theory that Shin Se Gi set the fire in some way - maybe not intentionally, maybe setting fire to something of his dad's that then got out of hand. But I wonder if Shin Se Gi was the original little boy who then got told he didn't exist, and Cha Do Hyun was the good little boy who was acknowledged, and that right there created the first hint of a rift. Then the fire happens and the adults freak out and impress on him that he is Cha Do Hyun and ONLY Cha Do Hyun, and that forces the Shin Se Gi name down onto this first alter.
Given that Cha Do Hyun was the boy who suffered and tried to fit his family's expectations, it would be kind of sweet if the show ended with Shin Se Gi being the name that wins. Not necessarily the personality, but the name. He could shed all of those weird expectations and start being that arrested-development boy who remembered all of Ri Jin's preferences and would have rebelled with guyliner.
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sancheezy
March 2, 2015 at 9:36 PM
-Ri Jin wilfully doesn’t acknowledge some things. It’s not that she’s too stupid to notice them, she just has an inside world and an outside world. Even though she seems straightforward to the outside world, it turns out she spends a fair amount of time thinking things through and then just tucking them away. It’s a really cool character trait-
I wanna second that,
she knews RI-On lies, she knew she adopted but it just a very good decision when he didn't confront them when she knew nothing
the acceptance it just feel real and good
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40 azzo
March 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM
WOW. *claps speechless for the writers* after this episode ended my mind just went blank for a moment then I snapped out of it to realize that there were so many hints before. Shin Se Gi said it, he told Re Jin that Cha Do Hyun is fake and he is real, he even said that to him.
OMG. I really don't know how is Do Hyun going to deal with this, his identity, what he believed in the most, everything just shattered and where would that put Re Jin?!
TBH. I was kinda waiting for a shock like this but wasn't expecting it to be this DEVASTATING! Though it always makes me cry, I love it when the show gets dark and all sad, to me that what makes it real! Don't get me wrong, I love the fun and laughter but heartaches make us connected to the characters. MORE!
Thanks for the recap Saya, glad to know your opinion isn't the same as purplecow. LOL.
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41 ILOVEKDRAMAS
March 2, 2015 at 8:58 PM
Sooooooooooo.............
Cha Do-Hyun (the "fake" one) is WHO'S son
and Cha Do-Hyun (the "real" one / Oh Ri-Jin) is WHO'S daughter?
I'm so confused
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Beebeeshing
March 2, 2015 at 9:09 PM
Fake Cha Do Hyun is Joon Pyo's son(at least so far the drama is putting that way) and Shin Hwa Ran's son.
Real Cha Do Hyun is Min Seo's daugther.
Joon Pyo and Min Seo are husband and wife on paper. :/
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42 sancheezy
March 2, 2015 at 9:46 PM
thanks a lot Saya for make this recap with beautiful words
wanted to said that, before 2000 in SK
the woman registry is still in her ex-husband registry if she is not married,
so DO-Hyun (rijin) will have Cha as family name because they born before 2000 and even in law MSY and CJP haven't divorce of even if they then divorce
while MSY haven't re-married so
DO-Hyun (Ri-jin) is still successor of Cha - name in law
and she came 1st to the house, when male DH didn't have registry to attend school
please correct me if I am wrong
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 11:04 PM
Noted
thank u for the info ara!!
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43 jane
March 2, 2015 at 10:00 PM
I bet Do-Hyun is asking himself now "who on earth am i?", so sad.
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lara4liwa
March 2, 2015 at 11:02 PM
true jane, its so sad, we can feel the sadness of this horrible truth huhuhu
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Beebeeshing
March 3, 2015 at 12:00 AM
I think "Cha Do Hyun" is truly made it to my top tragic and had the worst luck character I ever watched. He was a illegitimate child until he is 7. Just when we thought his life would be better, he is mentally tortured by his father until he forgot his memories. When he go college and met someone he likes, but she is interested in another guy and it happens to be his cousin and manipulate him to treat her nice. Then his souls got shattered again after helping an acquaintance. Tortured by his personalities for 11 years. Met his first love but his first love happens to be the girl his father tortured. He have to worry his another self kill him and fight for his love. He still have to worry whether his love could be his Aunt and the only thing he could believe in himself, his identity, is shattered for the third time when he recover his memory.
I really want him to get a happy ending that he deserved.
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lara4liwa
March 3, 2015 at 1:02 AM
the way you explain his sorrows making me wanna cry again Beebeeshing huhuhu, I'm pretty sure everyone here want a happy and satisfying ending for both our tormented OTP
please please writer-nim, drama God, PD, anyone hear hear
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Aria
March 3, 2015 at 2:46 AM
Just reading your comment makes my heart ache chingu. What more If we're at DH's shoes?..
I might not only get DID but a worse thing may happen to me from those horrible sufferings.
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plumwine
March 4, 2015 at 10:30 AM
When you put it so perfectly blunt - I am worried Yo Seob may appear. My heart hurts.
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thursdaynexxt
March 5, 2015 at 3:50 AM
Great summary!
Couldn't help thinking, though: what a way to meet your other half - quite literally! (with 6 more personalities thrown in)
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44 goldeng
March 2, 2015 at 10:08 PM
I was trying to talk about this drama last time and I was like ????? to myself when trying to explain the personalities... now it would be even harder to explain how the "male lead" is the female lead in the 1st place :'((( I'll miss cha do hyun saying "cha do hyun imnida" :(( it was the only thing that reassured him of who he was and now... not even that is his... I just want to slap his mother!! How can she take away everything that mattered -his well being, mental health, his IDENTITY- from his child like that? and even after he BEGGED her to stop it and leave with him, she asks him to "endure a little more": WTH is wrong with that woman?? u.u
Now I wonder if Shin Se Gi is his real name since hes the predominant personality created around that time?? its SOO confusing I literally had the same expression Female Do Hyun had in her face!! RJ keeps surprising me in a good way... shes consistent with her actions knowing when to play along but not letting others choose her battles... I was glad when she asked Ri On to take a seat because they were been annoying with their protective antics. It could only made her more determined to find her memories and I'm glad Mom didnt block the info... Wonder what she'll do cuz Im feeling the last personality X is appearing in the next ep. and i think it has to do with his father... Hope both Do Hyuns can help each other now
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45 jojo
March 2, 2015 at 10:17 PM
Enough said about KMHM, it is simply awesome.
I would rather said this is the best RECAP i've read. So kuddos to Saya. I really enjoy your writing.
Looking forward for your other recap.
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sonia
March 3, 2015 at 12:56 AM
+1
loved her recap looking for the next one too
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46 Sajen
March 2, 2015 at 10:47 PM
We live in a global society where you're name is linked to everything you have. Especially to a child to a child it's everything it's the only thing you have that's wholly yours. Those anal dwelling butt-monkeys stole their names.
I was never on-board the Se-gi/Do-hyun plan to take Seungjin Group and give it to Ri-jin I mean what would she even want with it. However I am now, the best way to hurt grandma/mom take the only thing they love Seungjin Group and give it to the absolute last person they would want to see running it.
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plumwine
March 4, 2015 at 10:35 AM
Hear, hear!
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47 red
March 2, 2015 at 11:01 PM
Ep 16 was definitely better thab ep 15. And even though I hate seeing them apart I can see why it had to happen.
Love your analysis Saya! Great recap once again
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48 Kaybee
March 2, 2015 at 11:04 PM
Shin Ge-Gi is his real name. It was Shin Segi who was introduced to young Rijin/ Do hyun so it was the character of Shin Se Gi who recognised the adult Rijin/ Do hyun too. The male Do Hyun took the name of female Do Hyun so he was clueless. It makes a lot of sense. I always wanted Segi to be real and I am so happy Se Gi is the real one here.
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Hanjae
March 3, 2015 at 12:22 AM
I think Shin Se Gi might be his real NAME, but it doesn't mean Se Gi is the main personality. I think Se Gi represents the young boy of the past, locked away and only reappearing later as an "alter ego" because our hero couldn't deal with the trauma. That would explain why Se Gi has all the memories as well as the anger/hate/helplessness that came with his situation in the basement.
However, the main PERSONALITY (in my opinion) remains "Cha Do Hyun," the responsible one that we've known throughout the drama. He's the one who's been living life after Se Gi "retreated" into the background and the one who essentially became an adult, while Se Gi has retained all the characteristics of a boy who never grew up. You can see that in all of Se Gi's actions - him trying to win over Ri Jin with toys (the things she liked when she was a girl), not understanding that she'd grown up. Even Ri Jin has said that he's like a child. So Se Gi is certainly part of Do Hyun, but I don't think he can be the main personality - he's too immature, violent and unstable.
It's not really going to matter if the drama goes the way most viewers think it is going, anyway, with the "healing" resulting in Do Hyun combining with his other alter egos - Do Hyun would retain his maturity/sense of responsibility/caring nature and gain Se Gi's confidence and pizazz.
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beebeeshing
March 3, 2015 at 1:32 AM
Yeah I agree with @Hanjae. I believe that "Cha Do Hyun" is the original master of the body bearing the name of "Shin Se Gi".
I remembered someone brought up Disney in the comments box before so that's what I thought about their relationship:
Shin Segi x OhRijin = Peter Pan x Wendy. The 7 personalities are his minions (LOL. the little children), Chaeyeon would be twinkle bell. Ki Joon's dad is Captain Hook. We all know how the story goes. But Peter Pan never end up with Wendy even though he is the main lead in the story and I believe all of us know he adored Wendy and even threaten her to stay with him in his Neverland. (until this part, it really seems like PP in melo version HAHAAHA and Segi does act like a child). But in the conclusion, he decides to let Wendy go back to her world which is reality.
whereas Cha-X ("CDH") x Oh Rijin = Beast x Beauty. The 7 personalities are his minions (The clock but I think Secretary Ahn serves as Teapot lady and Chip here HAHAHAHAH) that pulls them together. Cha X is the real prince that cast a spell to become the beast of Segi. When they kissed, True Love will break the spell and turn him back to Cha X. (everyone do realise that it is always Cha X kissed Orijin and when Orijin and Segi are together, they never kissed except for the first time which made Segi disappear right? NO?)
If I put Beauty and the Beast in Peter Pan concept, it can be concluded that the true male lead is Cha X. But I couldn't be sure because Writer nim always give us surprises.
As for Segi, if he is indeed like Peter Pan, if he is healing, I hope he can remove his sadness and rage in his heart.
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plumwine
March 4, 2015 at 11:31 AM
Minions! (I'm picturing one with a sparkly pink headband) Ha! I love your comparison with Disney classics.
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Mia
March 3, 2015 at 6:45 AM
I think Shin Se Gi was trying to jolt Ri Jin's memory, trying to make her remember with all of the toys.
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Hanjae
March 3, 2015 at 8:45 AM
He wasn't trying to get her to remember anything, though? In fact, Se Gi consistently ignored Ri Jin's questions about whether he'd met her in the past.
He was literally asking her in that scene whether she liked the surprises he prepared for her - the toy train, the Beauty & the Beast wall scroll, the jack in the box, etc. - he was trying to work out what she liked so that she would choose him over Cha Do Hyun.
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49 sonia
March 3, 2015 at 12:55 AM
i agree with everything you said really thank you Saya for a wonderful recap i enjoyed every single word you wrote.
The twist at the end was brilliant kuddos to the writer you outdid yourself it never came to my mind that cha do hyun is ohrijin real name i got goosebumps and felt sorry for the lead he has no identity now although i feel like shinsegi might be his real name but right now he is confused and probably this will lead to Mr X final appearance.
2 more weeks to go with and i feel sad and not prepared to say goodbye :( loving KILL ME HEAL ME and MBC better recognize the whole cast effort at the end of the year.
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50 ywcnois
March 3, 2015 at 1:38 AM
Okay.. so I have some questions regarding the entire drama and it would be great if someone can help me out with (some of) them.
1) How did Shin Se-gi know in episode 1 that Ri Jin treated him "roughly"? In a later episode, he said that he can't remember what Do Hyun does, but apparently he could back then..?
2) How did Shin Se-gi recognise Ri Jin in episode 1? I mean, I understand that it's the same person, but he hadn't seen her for 21 years and just bumped into her and recognised her?
3) We saw a flashback of Ri Jin showing a picture of her mother to Do Hyun in the basement and telling him that it's her mom. Do Hyun knew this fact already, right? And she knew that he knew that. Since the first time they met each other (other flashback), the mother was there too.
4) IF Cha Do Hyun's name was actually Shin Se Gi, why did his dad not name him Cha Se Gi or sth like that? At first he didn't want to accept him as his own child? But Min Seo Yeon apparently didn't think of staying with her man in the USA since she gave her child the familyname Cha. Or did she change it later?
5) It was mentioned that Do Hyun's friend in America got a lot of money or sth. Will we ever hear more about that?
6) Does anyone know if a family register is like a birth certificate? If you're not on one, you don't exist legally? In that case, Do Hyun would become a person who doesn't exist if Ri Jin takes her original spot.
One day leftttt.
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sancheezy
March 3, 2015 at 3:45 AM
can't replay a lot right now
illegimate child = child born out of marriage usually take his mom name
if you not have birth certificate, you do not exist legally
wanted to said that, before 2000 in SK
the woman registry is still in her ex-husband registry if she is not married,
so DO-Hyun (rijin) will have Cha as family name because they born before 2000 and even in law MSY and CJP haven’t divorce of even if they then divorce
while MSY haven’t re-married so
DO-Hyun (Ri-jin) is still successor of Cha – name in law
and she came 1st to the house, when male DH didn’t have registry to attend school
please correct me if I am wrong
sorry - I really in the middle of something now
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ywcnois
March 3, 2015 at 4:18 AM
But they were both illegitimate children then...
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Aria
March 3, 2015 at 4:35 AM
#2, Ri Jin called Se Gi 21 yrs ago and he appeared.
That means, he assumes that in the future, the only one who would be able to call him again w/o him seeing another abuse (e.g. his classmate in the US) is the one who called him a long time ago, and he's right.
After 21 years, it's RJ.
He knows only RJ can call him like that.
Sorry, I don't know if I make sense.
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ywcnois
March 3, 2015 at 6:13 AM
Hmm that kind of makes sense. Thank you.
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bbeth
March 3, 2015 at 11:11 AM
As far as the name "cha" on your point 4, she had the child in US and the grandpa went to bring Min Seo-yeon back.
So after they returned & when they returned, Grandpa put the child onto the family register, giving her the surname, making Min Seo-yeon & the child the heir (because at that point Jun-pyo had divorced his wife and run off on his own, out of the family house & grandma don't know where he is per this episode). Birth certificates can be filed after actual day of birth. Applying for the change to a register can be done a few months afterwards - even years in this case?
Then Jun-pyo returns, bringing along a child. Who is this? grandma asked. My child. He has to start school soon...and needs an id. Jun-pyo is quiet and meek, asking for family protection and money again. Then he sees Min Seo-yeon and her daughter and asks "what is that woman doing here. and who is THAT?" and begins his mixed up horrible transference of rage and inferiority complex onto the two kids.
And that's the point when Grandma was like "oh this child...it would have been better if she was your kid, Jun-pyo. But since she's not, let's make your kid the heir and shove the girl into a basement."
And Min Seo-yeon is like, that's crazy messed up, I'm taking my kid and getting out of this family for good - here's the CEO position back, Grandpa. But dies and then yea..
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ywcnois
March 3, 2015 at 12:04 PM
So then... Do Hyun (Ri Jin) didn't have a familyname until she came to Korea? Is that even possible?
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bbeth
March 9, 2015 at 9:52 AM
I would think that she did have a name, but not Korean-legally-registered name/id since she was born in US and Min Seo-yeon would have prob wanted to stay there. Grandpa is the 'head of the family' so he can add whoever he wants to the family (like in cases of adoption or something?) and even so, we hear about the power/money of Seung-jin, so it's not out of the realm for these chaebols...?
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bbeth
March 3, 2015 at 11:14 AM
and for point 3 -
I think as a child, he saw the girl and her mom, he's new to the family house too and doesn't know who everyone is.
As an adult, who has repressed memories, he's only known Min Seo-yeon as the 'legal wife' who died, the mom's name on his family registry.
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redfox
March 5, 2015 at 12:33 AM
1) because he is Shin Se Gi
2) because he is Shin Se Gi
3) but he did not know she worked in his house. he also met the Mom and she also told him nothing even about having worked as a cook anywhere
4) Shin is the last name of his birth mom, but I am not sure how the dynamics works. Se Gi might have another origin. Min Seo yeon did not stay because her man was dead I think
5) yes
6) don´t know
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ywcnois
March 6, 2015 at 7:53 AM
3) I didn't mean her adoptive mother, but Min Seo Yeon.
well most of my questions were answered in episode 17 and 18.
but I'm still wondering why Se Gi sometimes remembers everything that Do Hyun does and sometimes not.
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