Beanie level: Noble idiot

I want a grand action movie featuring Bidam (Kim Nam Gil), Chun Soo (Bae Soo Bin), Bong Sang Pil (Lee Jun Ki), Wang So (Lee Jun Ki), Chil Sung (Jang Hyuk) and every brilliant fighter in K-dramaland.

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    Are they all on the same team or fighting against each other?

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      either way works for me.. although no matter what, Bidam can’t die again!

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      I think Bidam would win if it’s a showdown though.. I mean, as long as they’re not ganging up against him like in Queen Seondeok’s finale. It can’t be 1000 people against Bidam.

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        Oh gosh, Queen Seon-deok! This takes me back! …… And that ending, especially for Bidam.

        But nevertheless it’s still a favorite.

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          Same here! Despite that horrible ending for Bidam, Queen Seondeok will always have a special place in my heart. I don’t see how he could have had a happy ending though especially with the rebellion.. Sigh. If only he hadn’t rebelled.

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@gmelenco

Jung Ryeo Won’s black pinafore/slip. Not sure if it’s the exact pinafore/slip but it’s very similar:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.999.82.2e09523cahABdG

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I kinda get and don’t get why people are complaining about the lack of episodes this past week. National elections, the Trump-Kim summit.. those are major issues.

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    If we’re not paying taxes or funding KBS, SBS, MBC in any way, I don’t think we have any right to complain. These are obviously issues that concern South Koreans. And also, what’s the big deal with waiting a week or two? You could always pick up a drama you’ve been wanting to binge-watch or rewatch an old drama or catch up on dramas you’ve put on hold. Try a Chinese/Japanese/Thai drama. Rewatch old eps of Supernatural or stg.

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      a very mature response indeed.

      I’m sure everyone knows that Real Life Over KDramas is a thing, and the latter can wait while very important things take place.

      Maybe it’s just coz we want to be petty and complain and act like 3-yr-olds, in spite of knowing better?

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        @kethysk Haha, I understand that too. The wait between episodes can feel like ages. It’s really tempting to give in and sulk like we’re 3.

        Personally, I’m glad for the break.. I dunno if DB is using the break to catch up on recaps but if they are, I’m thankful for it. And also giving me time to catch up on so many dramas I’ve missed or put on hold due to work.

        What are you watching, by the way?

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          🙂
          I’m currently catching up on Lawless Attorney and loving it.
          Also, I’m trying to fend off my love for What’s Wrong with Secretary Kim until there are more episodes out.

          I might give ep.2 of Miss Hammurabi a try (I wasn’t really sold on ep.1) and maybe also give in and start Life on Mars on the weekend.

          What about you, @zoeraindasherbenji ? 🙂

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            Chinese dramas
            Moonshine and Valentine
            Addicted
            To Love, To Heal

            Korean dramas
            Handsome Guy and Jung Eum
            Wok of Love
            Lawless Lawyer
            Suits
            Investigation Couple
            Jewel in the Palace
            What’s Up Fox

            And I’m also really behind on Blindspot, Daredevil, Da Vinci’s Demons, Fresh Off the Boat, iZombie, Jessica Jones, Legends of Tomorrow, Lucifer, Supernatural, Supergirl, The Flash, The Magicians, The Originals, and Westworld… So many shows to watch!

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            What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim sounds like a riot! Good idea to wait till you can binge on several episodes

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            wow! SOOOOO many shows!
            Unfortunately for me, my night owl habits have been rather pitiful and staying up to catch up on KDramas after work + yoga has been really hard. my eyes just can’t seem to stay open past 11PM!!! SO SAD!!!

            *missing my 20s and the easy-peasy sleepless nights*

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            @kethysk at least you’re way healthier than I am! My body seems to think it’s invincible… I’ll probably pay the price later on for watching dramas through the night.

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Kim Nam Gil is gonna be the hottest, sexiest priest ever.
https://www.hellokpop.com/tv-movies/kim-nam-gil-tv-comeback-sbs-drama/

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What are your thoughts about Yoson An, the actor who will play Mulan’s new love interest? He’s not playing Li Shang btw.
https://www.weibo.com/tv/v/GkaGgzzp

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    I’m happy with everyone they’ve cast, I just have problems with the way they’re shaping/changing the story. Different villain: a witch, and a competitive jerk who then falls in love when he learns Mulan’s a woman… It could be great, but it could also not be great. 🙁

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@bammsie
The first teaser of Ordinary Glory, the Chinese remake of Misaeng is out..
and it feels so much like the Misaeng we both love!

https://www.facebook.com/dramapotatoe/videos/240299863410067/

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This song is incredibly romantic. Love the lyrics! Original artist: Teresa Teng

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    A classic! ♥️ A song I grew up listening to! Thanks for sharing!

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      My mom is a Teresa Teng lover so I probably grew up listening to this too. But I had no idea that this was her song.

      I just found out that it was her song after watching a video of Xu Weizhou and Huang Jingyu singing it:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOBzmoCwcuw

      Have you heard them cover this? Their voices are so soothing..

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        I don’t know the guys but this is another beautiful classic. Of course her other most famous one is The Moon Represents My Heart.

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          Yes, The Moon That Represents My Heart.. Ohmygosh, I hear it at almost every Chinese wedding.

          You might recognise Huang Jingyu from Moonshine and Valentine. He’s the one in the black jacket in the video.. at 0.05-0.13. The one in the white jacket with the black collar is Xu Weizhou. They made it big with this BL webseries called Addicted. Watching it now and it is, for lack of a better word, addictive.

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It just hit me that Xu Weizhou and D.O. kinda look like each other.

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Just started a few eps of Addicted and is it just me, or is Huang Jingyu\’s acting in Addicted better than in Moonshine and Valentine?

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    I mean, I love his Helan but perhaps it’s because his Helan is so swoony and nice .. How do you act as someone so perfect? It’s unreal. Now I kinda wish they’d used Book Helan for the script.. With Huang Jingyu’s skills, he can definitely pull off Helan’s arrogance and ruthlessness.

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    No, not just you. I find his acting much better in Addicted. One of the reasons why I love Addicted so much is because of how well he sold his character and his chemistry with Xu Wei Zhou. That’s super rare in BLs. It’s funny though that he seemed more comfortable there and here.

    His acting bothered me a bit at first here. It’s not bad though. Just not great either. Because this is his first more mainstream type drama, I’ll cut him some slack because I want him to get as much positive exposure from it as possible. So hopefully when he get’s more casting calls and better dramas, his acting will only get better.

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      I was wondering about a few factors.

      I was reading an interview with Xu Weizhou and Huang Jingyu about Addicted and Jingyu’s real-life personality seems to be a lot closer to Gu Hai’s personality in the sense that they’re both spontaneous and a bit impulsive.

      And I was asking this question on A Virtual Voyage as well.. and another commenter mentioned that it could be due to a few reasons: e.g. maybe it was the fact that both Jingyu and Weizhou were newbies at acting then and that lessened the pressure.. and in comparison, Victoria has more experience than Jingyu does and she’s also older.. and maybe that widens the gap between them.. Or maybe he’s just more comfortable around guys..

      The environment of the production does affect the chemistry between the actors.

      He does seem to be a bit.. (shy?) around Victoria in the BTS videos.

      I was reflecting on it.. and just wondering if it’s the directing style.. and the writing of his character..

      The few scenes that I thought Jingyu really got into it for M&V was the one at the club where Pipi is afraid of him.. and the one where he confronts his dad after drinking the medicine. That tension in his body was almost palpable in the club scene.

      He has a lot of potential but the director should let him do more of his own thing..

      P.S. do you think Qing Mu’s 21st century hairstyle is weird? He looks like he’s an idol wannabe. And also Qing Mu’s Tang dynasty clothes are kinda weird. Like, a mandarin collar with an outer hanfu robe? Whaaaat?

      P.P.S By any chance, do you know what CP means? I’ve been seeing it in posts by Addicted fans.. I figured out that Yuzhou refers to Jingyu + Weizhou.. but no idea what CP means..

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@bammsie There\’s a new remake of Misaeng coming up

https://www.avirtualvoyage.net/2018/06/chinese-remake-of-korean-drama-misaeng-casts-mark-zhao-bai-jing-ting-and-qiao-xin.html

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    Awesome! Thanks for the tag.. But I wonder if I’ll be able to watch it. The Korean version is so dear to me.

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      Yes, don’t rush yourself into it if you’re not ready. You can always wait till it’s finished airing and fully subbed.

      But if it helps you relax about the fate of the remake, Mark Chao, Bai Jingting, and Brigitte Qiao Xin are excellent actors. Mark Chao was the lead in the super hit drama Three Lives, Three Worlds, Ten Miles of Peach Blossoms.

      I’ve only seen Bai Jingting in 1 show, Whirlwind Girl. He was okay there.. Very sweet. he’s been getting good reviews for his performances these past years so I hope he’ll be an excellent Jang Geu Rae.

      And Brigitte Qiao Xin is not bad too. Her dramas Ode to Joy and Legend of the Green Hill Foxes are all pretty good.

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Guess I’m shallow. Can’t resist this eye candy. #MoonshineandValentine
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I really, really need to gush about the Moonshine and Valentine books to someone. Anyone. Is there a private space or forum for M&V fans?

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    @hades and I are planning to chat about the show on the Rabbit app tomorrow which gives me a little more time to catch up on ep14 this evening. You are the most welcomed to join us! Our Rabbit names are the same as on DB: hades and kimbapnoona. Friend us and we can create a IM room!

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      have you read the books yet?

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        I have not yet read the books, but I do really love the mythology and the world it creates. I would imagine the books are much more fun than the drama since I am sure many details are omitted in the tv adaptation?

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          They’re fox spirits in the books and not aliens/foxes.

          The mythology is a lot richer in the books. You’ll find the wolf race, the ant race, and all kinds of races in Book 2. And the whole reason behind Hui Yan’s curse is also different. The characters are different.. From Helan to Pipi to Qian Hua to Tian Xin to Pipi’s mom.. Everyone has been altered to some degree. Helan is more Christian Grey/Edward Cullen/Beast-like in the book. Pipi has a lot more agency and is more adventurous in the book as well. It’s killing me because there are so many people talking about the show but so few international fans who have read the books. The avirtualvoyage.net chatbox is full of M&V fans.

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            That sounds great! One thing that bugs me in the drama is so far Pipi seems just to be the damsel in distress, how awesome to know that she has a lot more agency in the novel.

            I actually thought about the Christian Grey character for Helan the other day and couple weeks ago in the What We Are Watching mentioned the similarly with Twilight! No wonder the story reads like crack!😆

            Do you think that make the fox tribe into an alien race because the PD wants to pitch it as the new “You from Another Star” ?

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            I really have no idea why the PD changed the fox spirits into aliens. Someone (I think on A Virtual Voyage) mentioned that it could be tied to SARFT’s restrictions but as far as I know, webdramas aren’t subject to the same restrictions as network TV. And since Moonshine and Valentine is aired on Tencent’s streaming platform, QQ, it’s a webdrama.

            Regarding the SARFT’s restrictions, there’s a long list of banned content or limitations. And one of them is that the productions can’t promote superstition:
            https://qz.com/630159/chinas-new-television-rules-ban-homosexuality-drinking-and-vengeance/

            Anyway, so now I’m totally lost as to why they changed it to an alien race. Will keep digging around for more info.

            As far as I know, the first book in the Love Knot series was published in Jan 2010 and it’s more likely to have Twilight’s influence. Yea, it is like crack! I’m reading the 3rd book now and it is so addictive.

            Books 2 and 3 delve deeper into the politics, not just between the north and south foxes but between the foxes and other races as well.

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            It’s such a pity that there isn’t an official English translation or fan translation yet but the books really delve deeply into environmentalism, animal rights, the food chain, and other issues and you’ll find yourself questioning whether Helan’s actions are even wrong at all. And whether Pipi’s outrage is justified. Book Helan does some crazy things but when I put myself in his shoes….

            Though I don’t agree with everything he does, I can understand his actions and even empathise with him.

            The show barely skims the surface of these issues.

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            @kimbapnoona I have no idea how the SARFT affects Moonshine and Valentine anymore.

            Apparently, on-demand video service providers like Youku and Tencent Video (QQ) and iQiyi are supposed to self-police and examine their own content because there is so much content being produced nowadays and the SARFT can’t possibly examine them and approve them all apparently. Which is why C-ent viewers have to wait for months and even years before we get an air date.

            See this link for greater context: https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=e3f52d5d-7192-48b7-935f-95d4234d1ef8

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          One of the best changes they made in the show is introducing Kuan Yong, Xiu Xian and Xiao Ju much earlier.. than in the books.

          Imo, it was also a good idea to make Xiu Xian less antagonistic towards Pipi in the show.

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            At OT last week @alessar mentioned that they are lovers in the story. It is too bad that with Chinese censorship this plot line is not possible….

            It was also fun to muse with @egads about the three of them being polyamorous which of course, is not even possible on US basic cable let alone Chinese TV! This is where I am hoping that this is a web drama!

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            The Chinese webdrama Go Princess Go explores gender identity and LGBTQ issues. This was also a sleeper hit! Really hilarious and romantic. And the actor who plays Zhao Song also has a supporting role in Go Princess Go.

            Johnny Huang (the actor who plays Helan) was also in a boy love drama called Addicted.

            Dunno if the Chinese censors had anything to do with the change in Kuan Yong and Xiu Xian’s relationship. And yea, I think Xiao Ju should just have them both!

            Kuan Yong and Xiu Xian are gay in the book but their relationship is only briefly acknowledged and they also have way fewer scenes in the book.

            The producers prob tweaked their relationship to make it more palatable to viewers since some viewers may not be open to a gay couple. Sadly!

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            @pettynoonawhobuysherselfkimpap and @zoeraindasherbenji I don’t know if you have caught up to the latest episodes, but Xiu Xian in one scene basically says to Xiao Ju that she should just move in with the two men. Like forever. It’s written, or at least the subs were translated, kind of offhandedly, and the scene goes quick, but I was surprised at how up-front he was. And my take was that he knows she conflicted about her feelings for both of them, and this is a solution. Could be though that I’m reading my own wants into it, but for a Chinese drama (or any nationality for that matter) to suggest one girl and two guys living together is pretty risque.

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            @egads I haven’t watched ep 20 yet. I’m trying to force myself to work before I watch ep 20. LOLOL.

            I think I know which scene you’re talking about. They’re celebrating Xiao Ju’s birthday? That scene?

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            @egads yea but how is that a solution for their situation though?

            Xiao Ju being Xiao Ju wouldn’t want to lead Xiu Xian on. And the feelings will just grow deeper on all ends. From my POV, Xiu Xian’s approach is just delaying a confrontation between all 3 of them.

            Living together wouldn’t really solve anything. If they actually admitted their feelings and agreed to be polyamorous, now that’s more like a solution.

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            @zoeraindasherbenji Episode 16 is the latest I have available on Dramafever, and this is the when her father shows up at the cafe. I rewatched the scene, and Xiao Ju makes a couple of statements that loosely imply she may be open to non-standard romantic solutions. Again, this may be me projecting, but it seems very non-standard drama conversation. I agree that the only way the three could live happily together is if in an open and communicative polyamory situation.

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            @egads I should rewatch Xiao Ju’s scenes with Kuanyong and Xiu Xian.. There’s a lot of room for subtext

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            @zoeraindasherbenji To be honest, these three are what is keeping me interested in the show.

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            @egads I totally understand. These 3 are so adorable together. At first, I was wondering if it was really necessary to make Xiao Ju a part of Xiu Xian and Kuanyong’s relationship. I mean, the boys were just fine on their own. I could watch Xiu Xian tease Kuanyong all day.

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      Episodes 15 and 16 just are out on drama cool… I would love to be part of that discussion!
      @zoeraindasherbenji where did you find the books? I’ve been looking for them. This is such a charming story!!! ^^

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        Rukia, I’m guessing you’re not fluent in Chinese? I just googled the Chinese title of Moonshine and Valentine and it led me to the first book in the series. The Baidu Baike page for the show helped me a lot: https://baike.baidu.com/item/结爱·千岁大人的初恋

        Once you find the Chinese title of the book, you’ll find dozens of links to the book everywhere.
        I can’t find any English translations.
        Book 1 https://www.sto.cc/book-157393-1.html
        Book 2 http://www.630book.la/shu/101112.html
        Book 3 http://www.630book.la/shu/148918.html

        Don’t think Book 3 is complete yet. I’m still at Chapter 15 of Book 3.

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          Thank you!!
          No, unfortunately I don’t speak or (more to the point) read Chinese. *sigh*
          I will have to wait in hopes that some kind soul(s) will translate.
          I am really enjoying the drama, but I know that a lot must have been left out. Different media tend to do that.

          I hope that you find someone soon who has (is able to) read it so that you can discuss it to your heart’s content!!

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            They probably had to make those changes to the script because Helan does some pretty extreme stuff in the book. And they wouldn’t go over well with all viewers. And maybe because of ep count as well and budget and other things like that. Really hope we get another season of M&V.

            Have you tried looking in the Soompi sub-forum for the M&V show?
            https://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/414498-current-mainland-chinese-webdrama-2018-the-love-knot-his-excellencys-first-love-结爱·千岁大人的初恋/

            Soompi has a lot of users who are fluent in Chinese. I’ve been avoiding the Soompi thread for the show because there are some spoilers there.
            Maybe someone in Soompi/Shusheng Bar/Novel Updates is already in the midst of translating the books.

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            I just skimmed through the Soompi thread (Thank you!!), but there doesn’t seem to be any talk about the original books or translations. It’s all about the drama. *sigh*

            I’ll just keep coming back to search for the translated novel every once in a while…

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        I looked on books.shushengbar.com and novelupdates.com but couldn’t find an English translation but I got lazy and gave up looking after 10 mins. You should try your luck!

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      What is the Rabbit app? I’d love to chat as well. I’m going to catch up with the two latest episodes tonight.

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        @bammsie has explained it really well on her fan wall.
        Basically, you go to rab(dot)it and create an account. If you become friends with her, she will add you to the TraumaBeans thread and you can see all the other Beanies who have signed up. (I’m @RukiaDB on rabbit)
        It’s really fun!!

        Here’s a link to her post from last week :
        http://www.dramabeans.com/members/bammsie/activity/498435/

        But it would be even better just to go to her fan wall and see… ^^

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        Hey hey! 😊 Rukia said it really well, and I’d oke to add two things : Rabbit is also an app, and if you want me to help you get set up with info, when you make your account, add me! I’m Genty B or @thegentlebreaddragon. 😂 I promise I’m not just trying to advertise for friends, but I have sort of become the admin so I figured I’d let you know!

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        I would love to chat about the show too, but I’m headed on vacation for the next week and won’t be available.

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    @hades @kimbapnoona @rukia Are you, by any chance, following the #MoonshineandValentine hashtag on Twitter?

    I would love to join the Rabbit discussion when I’m done with my current assignment. Have been putting off work for the novel/show for a few days now. Yes, I know, I’m a bit crazy!

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Does anyone know who’s the actress who plays Hoon Nam’s biological mom?
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How can he be so adorable?
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@bebeswtz Tagging a fellow PHS puppy lover here.

Full interview on Star1
http://www.atstar1.com/view.php?uid=201804231354382910
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    That pink suit tho!

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      He wears it so well, doesn’t he? I love the blush shades..

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        Agree!! I think it’s because not only is he tall, but his shoulders are quite broad even though he’s like Lee Joon Ki: skinny buff 🙂

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          Exactly! I think it’s his height and shoulders that pull it off. I’m pretty sure if I wore something like that it’d look like it came from an oversized hobo costumer trying to play dress up. 😂

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        @bebeswtz skinny buff.. How apt!
        @fencejumper You must be quite petite. I’d look the same too cause I’m extremely short. It’s hard not to let such clothes overwhelm you. Some short people like Miroslava Duma can make oversized clothes work.. Most of us just fail. Hahah

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          @zoeraindasherbenji I am on the petite side so the “oversized” trend does no favours.😢 I really like PHS’ striped bow tie shirt pictured above. I’m guessing it’s supposed to be unisex but it has this really dainty touch to it and I love it!

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            I like the bow tie shirt too.. And have you seen the other photos in the photoshoot and interview too? There’s one shot with flared striped pants and a floral print shirt and it makes me think he should do a project set in the 60s or 70s.

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          I haven’t seen the other pics but now that you’ve mentioned it I should go and check it out! I feel like PHS could pull off any concept. He’s always had this rich chaebol looks eg.SWDBS but ever since Suits, he rocks the cocky vulnerable look too! A chameleon!

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            He had the cocky vulnerable look in Hwarang too.. but if you haven’t tried What Happens To My Family, please give it a go! His role as Cha Dal Bong there is quite different from the various chaebol type roles he’s had in recent years. And Sirius and Nine: Nine Time Travels too. Personally, I think his chaebol roles are both blessings and curses. Blessings, imo, because he gave nuances to each character no matter the commonalities. Curses… because they sort of typecasted him for a while.

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            I haven’t watched Hwarang or Nine Time Travels but I’ve finished WHTMF- loved it. Sure some eps may have lagged but there was such great chemistry. He was so down to earth and homely! His chaebol roles are definitely both a blessing and a curse. It was a HUGE blessing in High Society. I had to capitalize that because he and the 2nd FL were the only reasons to watch that drama. The main leads were honestly awful and the plot was echh but they carried the drama on their shoulders.

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            I haven’t watched High Society yet.. Apparently he carried that show!

            Tbh, his scenes in Hwarang, particularly the ones with Kim Ji Soo, the actress who played his mom, were the ones that helped me get through the drama. I liked the bromance scenes as well but the romance between Park Seo Joon and Go Ara’s characters wasn’t convincing for me and it was Hyung Sik’s arc and other actors like Lee Da In and Do Ji Han with their characters’ love story that stole the show in the end.

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            Though you and many others have warned me about High Society being a shipwreck, I still want to watch it because of the reviews about Hyung Sik and Im Ji Yeon’s acting. UEE is supposed to be one of the better idol-turned-actresses right? I wonder why she did so badly in High Society.

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    How these ZE:A actors manage to steal my heart…

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      Ikr?! I’m looking forward to watching Dong Jun in About Time too. Perhaps Siwan and Hyung Sik shared some of their acting tips with him.

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        If he has 1/2 the ability of either of the other two, I’ll be happy.

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          Same here. I hope his acting doesn’t make a case for the whole “Idols shouldn’t and can’t act!” camp. But ZE:A hasn’t really succeeded so where can these boys go if not into acting? DJ-ing? Variety shows? You know, a small part of me is somewhat relieved ZE:A never really succeeded. I don’t know if we would have gotten to see Hyung Sik and Si Wan in so many shows otherwise.

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            True. I still watch a couple of their videos because they’re fun 😂 and I feel bad because of the other people in the group, but. I don’t want to know dramaland without those two.

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            Well, they’ll all have to find their own paths. I heard Kevin was a DJ on a radio show for SBS. I think one of the flaws of Korean showbiz is that it’s all or nothing. They don’t really prepare you for other options if you don’t make it to the top as an idol group which is unfortunate because they’re all talented in different ways. I guess, they just have to depend on themselves and move forward with their individual passions and interests whether it’s in the entertainment world or not.

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            Very good point. Fighting to all of them.

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    SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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“When you were jailed, it drove me crazy!”

Aaaargh! Also, how can they be hugging each other right in front of the guard?! They’re crazy! Love makes you do all sorts of crazy, stupid things.

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These lovable buffoons! For me, a sageuk always needs a few buffoons.. Whether they’re the bad guys or the good guys.
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    these 2 were the stress buster in DJG and so well portrayed characters…

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      Ikr! They just crack you up in every single scene they’re in hahaha. Yes, Im Hyun Shik and Geum Bo Ra are my stress reliever and when Jang Geum’s despair was hard to watch, they were the ones who provided moments of hilarity and lightness.

      Lady Min and Chang Yee are cute too.

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It’s hard to believe Ji Jin Hee only started acting 3 years before this…

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“Our baby is the proof! Proof that Jang Geum is innocent!” ROFL, I never knew pregnancy could be so useful.
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I can’t get used to the 4:3 aspect ratio. 16:9 has spoiled me.
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    you are watching DJG… my all time most fav one. Happy watching.. and yes 4:3 ratio does look awkward initially…. but eyes get used to it after some time

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      Yes indeed, I’m rather late to the Dae Jang Geum party! I wish we had more female-centered sageuks like this nowadays.

      What’s funny is that I grew up watching stuff in the 4:3 format but now that everything’s in the 16:9 format, it’s taking me some time to adjust.

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