Young Actors’ Retreat is a hoot!
What I have learnt about the actors:
Bo-gum is a cute foodie. He is literally a happy child.
Seo-jun is easily flustered and forgets where he is.
In-yeop is a worrywart. He overthinks. (Who apologises for failing a challenge before they even start?)
Chan-wook is a ditz. Really gullible too (a shocking finding)
Dong-yeon is competitive, snarky, witty, and really smart (I’m sure he cusses a lot too).
Jin-young and kyung-soo are just those guys that never disappoint with their brains. The mood keepers.
For the females:
Joo-young and Yoo-jung are really smart and efficient. They are a great duo you would love to have in your team.
Sung-eun is mostly lost.
Soo-bin blends with the crowd, you forget she is there sometimes.
Hye-won is also competitive.
Bo-yoon (poor maknae) is always flustered when she is the center of attention.
Na ra is a riot. All over the place.
Ahn Bo-hyun is all that is left. Hopefully next week that is settled.
In all, some of these actors’ real personalities are a pleasant surprise (even more shocked there are more introverts). I’m having fun because they are having fun.
I want to go on a retreat too. Haven’t gone on one in over a decade😩.
Found a new happy pill.
Wasn’t it a joy that Inyeop was the only one who succeeded at the very task he and everyone else thought he would fail. The letter in the tent was priceless. I loved how they all chatted to the ghosts saying hello and thank you.
Wookie and the bug story was so funny. I am with him on the bugs though!🤣
In-yeop is one of those people who, rather than place confidence in their skill, place it on let letting people get hurt by their shortcomings. People like that inadvertently do well. I actually loved that about him. He and Kyun-soo are the hidden gems of this show.
Dong-yeon is cherry on top.
It’s all fun. It’s not like I’ll ever meet them to ask if they were being themselves. As long as they are not harming, harassing, or belittling anyone, beliefs, or culture, I’m good.
That’s a very interesting reply. Do you mind if I ask some more? What level of scripting would you still think is fine? A loose script in which they are given directions of what to do and how to behave while still allowing for some natural interaction? Do you think that is really possible if they all have “characters” to play? A very detailed script with lines and specific actions? Do you think it’s part of their job to sell their personality? And if yes, that it is something harming no one?
A variety show is never tightly scripted. I’ve watched enough on TV and from behind the scenes to know you can’t always be on top of things. So just go with the flow. Again, I have a laxed opinion on variety shows. My scale goes red when there is a form of imbalance or unfairness.
But reality TV…I cannot stand.
And as to you question about the actors’ job to sell themselves. Yes, I think it is. In all, they control their narrative. Sure, they get hints and nudges, but they decide.
Unfortunately, not every environment gives you the power of choice. That’s where my disconnect comes in. I might not notice this while watching, but once an issue is raised, oh, I lose interest very fast.
Thanks for your reply. I think it’s so strange that beanies like variety, even if they understand the issue of these actors being part of a culture that sells their personality like products. They are young and have been raised to believe in this culture, probably have very little choice if they join this kind of show. I think this is, or should be, already enough reason to make people from different cultures dislike that kind of thing.
Hi
I was wondering was there a particular context to your questions? Are you Korean?
There have been a couple of reality tv programmes in England one called The only way is Essex and the other Made in Chelsea that had loose scripts/settings but they had normal people who are usually attractive influencers who want to increase their reach by being on tv. So, I am wondering if it is unique to Korea that they use actual famous people on these shows. The show I’m a celebrity get me out of here is a direct equivalent, I guess and then there are themed shows like Strictly come dancing as far as I know neither is scripted. I don’t watch any of these show. The only reason I watched the this one was because it had actors I like on it. I expect that they have a tv personality and their real personality but parts of their real personality comes through. I was watching a show I can’t remember what it was and I caught a glimpse of their real face for a second before the mask went back on.
One fine week raised an important issue about the actors who don’t want to go on a variety show due to their own mental health needs just because it was a form of marketing. The producers drama and Shooting stars showed the types of personality actors are given to market them. I think the influence of the fans and the ‘scandal’ culture seems to be unique to Korea but as I am not into this in the UK context I can’t compare the two.
Hi @reply1988
No, I’m from South America. Sometimes I ask beanies about these korean variety shows because it’s curious. I was never a big fan, mostly because I think everything on them is scripted, but lately my criticism comes more from the fact they are powerful tools their entertainment industry uses to sell these actors as products. This is something I find hard to understand that can be accepted by people raised in the West and most beanies seem to come from there.
As far as veracity goes, take YAR for example, the first episode asks the captains to find some places. A variety show also has to think about budget, schedules, weather. It’s pretty obvious there is a script and actors pretend to be making choices. As far as their behavior, being honest it felt like all of them were “performing” every second of that episode. The weirdest moments were when the show kept playing scenes from the dramas as if to make a connection between their fictional characters and real personalities. That was almost creepy.
I don’t think most of these young actors have the power to refuse acting on these fake shows, selling a persona that is completely fabricated and this is something people should not support.
This first ep was pretty embarrassing. Should I try ep 2 if I believe everything I said above? I might, the general behavior given to each actor is kind of interesting, what roles they are trying to play in the charade.
@lixie The reason I asked was based on your view it doesn’t make sense that you would continue watching but it wasn’t clear. What shows do you prefer to watch? Do you still like Korean dramas?
I like kdramas. I’m still interested in their potential to create memorable characters and interesting storys. I prefer romance, melos, romcoms. One of my favorites is your nickname, Reply 1988 was almost perfect. Recently I have enjoyed Yumi, Attorney Woo, Mad for Each Other. I also like their movie thrillers very much.
I really didn’t think they would do an open ending. They weren’t promised a second season before the first even started like Alchemy of Souls and Poong.
Oh well. There won’t be a S2 given the ratings but at least I can tell myself both brothers are alive.
I don’t think a season 2 is a good idea too.
I was expecting an open ending with the twists we’ve been given in the last two episodes. I just wanted the twins alive. That was my only wish🥺.
I think I’m mostly left confused rn. I mean yeah ok, he’s alive? but… at what apparent cost??? I can think of several ways we could’ve ended it to a similar effect but have more of an actual conclusion.
How does Ji Sung do it every time!
Now I think I need a playbook on Ji Sung’s acting skills. Something that would dissect even the minute details. This is just so phenomenal.
Is it too early to call dibs on a Baeksang for best actor?
Awwww.. that is high praise indeed!!
He really is something.. I have been watching him for years and he is aging like fine wine.. It so happens he gets these OTT roles. But where he shines is the poignant emotional scenes.. he is just too good… I want to go back and watch Familiar Wife again!
Provided, we all survive tomorrow’s finale!
I think I am rewatching all his dramas after Adamas. Already queued Dr. John.
My first Ji Sung experience was Secret in 2014 and I liked his strong personality.
Didn’t finish Kill Me Heal Me because Hwang Jung Eum’s screeches were starting to block my ears. Skipped Innocent defendant because I was busy with life and Dr. John just skipped my mind. Looks like I will have to watch those again, just to see him emote alone.
But let us survive episode 16. How will I concentrate at work😨
I agree. Doctor John’s finale had more than a little in common with DDSSLLS’s. It rather soured the experience of what was otherwise a decent enough drama.
How hopeful are you that he gets it next year? If Beanies wish it, it may come to pass. I have realised we have lots of positive energy in this community. Let’s put it to use.
Alchemy of Souls, what in the cluster fuck was that?!😡🤨😵💫
Feels like I wasted 11 weeks (including off week) on a big pile of 💩
So much potential wasted.
They could have had a tighter story for both seasons with just 24 episodes. But instead they added unnecessary filler and lost the momentum.
The story telling and plot points also became weak and disjointed. They created a great world. All they had to do was stick to the parameters and rules they set, not create new ones to suit their nonsensical storyline.
If they are trying to build a stage to set off the second season, well, they are doing a terrible job.
This would have been a perfect 24 episode drama.
The curse of the Hong Sisters is yet to be dispelled😩.
Hope they do ep20 a reasonable justice. Make things make sense, that’s all I want.
Honestly, I think the story could have been easily told in 20 episodes, better yet 16, but it’s kind of clear that the Hong Sisters became enamored with the world they created and lost track of the story they were telling. What they should have done IMO was finish this story with Uk and Nak-su in 20 episodes, and then if they wanted more, keep some of the supporting characters, bring in new leads, and transport them to another part of the country for a whole new story.
I agree. Episode 19 was just a mess. Even if I am trying to wait until the final episode to have an overall definitive view of the narrative, some glaring problems have been evident. Among these: How did Uk not ask about the events resulting in Mudeok/Naksu gaining her powers back? Maybe, the fact that she was nearly killed/killed and resurrected, should have come up between 2 people who are as close as those 2? What about using Jang Gang as deus ex machina? This was so predictable and devoid of any narrative potency, and how can Buyeon’s paternity being contradicted so absurdly. One minute she is not Wootak’s child. Next minute, she is the genetic inheritor of two powerful mage families. Wootak is dead now so what about his adamant belief? Sigh. And then some. At least, I still like most of the acting.
So many gaping open plot holes. The Hong sisters managed to make me feel like I am the dumbest kdrama viewer ever and it is so annoying. That scene with the queen was so dumb, like how can powerful mages not subdue someone without magic holding a puny little dagger to her face? And they were all just standing there amd dont let me start on the lengthy exposition by Park Jin before actually marching in their witness. And Danggu and Cho Yeon just happens to be in that village? Why? And then suddenly changing rules about the ice stone ? WTF?
I wish I had the courage. My love for the cast and the first 12 episodes is what kept me going. I actually lost interest about the time The Good Detective 2’s bad subs came out.
Café Minamdang really frustrates me. While the writer is trying to make some plots line certain ways, they throw logic (and the FL) under the bus.
Was I the only one that had trouble with the last quarter of episode 9?
I mean rather than bring him in as a witness (he freaken fought gopuri), you decide to arrest him for your own sake.
And I’m sure there should be a law that protects him from such, but we can forget that exists in this reality, can’t we.
To make it worse, you bend his hands backwards to hypnotise him and face what he doesn’t want to face, so we can get Han-Jun vulnerable and he sees Jae-Hui in a new light??? Not cool show.
So many things are lacking and they are not joining the threads together the right way.
At this rate they should pair the FL and SML together. They actually fit more. I’ll rather there be understanding and level ground between the male and female lead than romance. I don’t see it working.
I really love Seo In-Guk, but the drama keeps getting worse. I think this is another Doom on his doorstep 😩.
I try to steer clear of makjangs and melos, especially revenge dramas about cheating and conniving women. Well most times.
But why do I love Remarriage and Desires so much like this😭?
It’s cliché and cheesy with choppy editing, bad continuity, and haphazard plot that could have done well if developed a little. There was nothing new about it, but the four leads have always been on my “I want you to do well list.” I had to show up for them (Lee Hyun Wook did so well as the male lead. Jung Eu Gene is delightful to hate) and I was proud of what I saw.
I wasn’t expecting to like it this much. The happy ending just made me love it more (I am a sucker for happy endings).
Is this how watching makjangs feel like?
My overactive imaginations would not stop creating scenarios of life after the ending for these characters (occupational hazard). Any work of fiction that makes me do that has won my heart.
I’m just happy they’re happy 😊.
So Remarriage and Desires is a bad cheese with a good taste in mouth. And I am not ashamed to say I ❤ it.
I’ve watched two episodes so far and like it but then I watched all three seasons of Love (ft Marriage and Divorce). Obviously, I have a thing for cheesy makjang about cheating and conniving women.
Me trying to convince everyone at home to watch Bloody Heart when I know they don’t watch seguks is an obvious losing battle.
But I will not give up. I shall prevail!!!✊🏿
And so, the drama and angst begins. I really hope they don’t go the way I think they will go.
Please show, surprise me. Be fun and heartwarming always.
#LoveAllPlayEp8
My guess is that next week will be all angst but they’ll move on to happy times the week after? Or is that too much to ask for? Although it will be painful, I think we do need the four main characters to get closure and finally move on. Also I can’t wait for JH’s reaction to the siblings reveal.
Best Part of ep8 was Tae Joon realising Jung Hwan dated his sister 🤣🤣
Watched that scene several times. Can’t wait to see Jung Hwan’s deadpan reaction🤣🤣🤣
Going to be comedy gold.
I had to replay TJ’s hilarious realisation too. He even made JH flinch 🤣
I was waiting for him to just snap and tell JH that he’s JY’s brother since he was so annoyed the whole episode but he never did. Just another thing TJ is holding in 😢
Why isn’t anyone talking about The King of Pigs? That show is awesome and nail biting. It’s a hard watch with all the violence, but really gives me joy when Friday rolls up.
True that. I know I am getting it through **the one I shall name**. But it’s really good.
TVING should really look for a way to licence its content on international platforms for international fans. It’s sitting pretty on good money.
TVING has content that could be really popular if they found a way to license it internationally. I’m surprised they don’t already have partnerships with existing platforms like Netflix. It seems like a wasted opportunity to not attract this sizeable international audience for their shows.
Even though I’ve seen the animated film, I’m still constantly surprised by the drama. I wasn’t keen on the revenge stuff at first, and I was particularly annoyed by little Hwang Kyung-min growing up to become a fiendish mastermind type. But what motivates/triggers him and Jong-seok, in the past as well as the present, is also much more developed, and fascinatingly so. And what a showcase this drama is for actors playing tortured and/or toxic males! The latest star turn is Oh MIn-seok as adult Kang Min. Just spectacular.
2521 ends this weekend😱
Feeling all sorts of emotions right now having realised this.
I can’t wait for new episodes, but I don’t want it to end. I want a happy ending, but at the same time I want drama to stay true to itself and the story it has magnificently told from the start.
It’s been a while since I’ve had these combustible emotions for this type of genre.
My ❤ won’t stop beating just thinking about it.
The excitement, the anxiety, the longing, the satisfaction, the nostalgic feeling. I’m already missing it, and it hasn’t even aired.
🥺😭 2521…
I’ve always known Nam Joo Hyuk to be handsome but not my type.
Today, he became No.1 on my list. Hmmm…that boy is fiiineee😍
He satisfied my glass fetish.
Just look at him…I just got *censored*
2521 just exceeded my expectations. To sum it up:
Mum should have done better
Yup Rim is a sore loser
Yi Jin…bless his heart
Hee Do couldn\’t have done it any better.
Ep8 will be all about feelings
I’m hating yu rim with such a passion right now. She is a sore loser and even when she was blabbering about family in the truck with her dad I felt it was just an excuse. She really did’nt want to lose against Hee do and thinks her medal is stolen from her. Such poor sportsmanship.
I never liked Yurim but she’s reached a new low this episode. She’s the most frustrating character I have seen in a while and I even watched Happiness, so that’s saying something. But at the same time, I’ll give it to the show for generating an interesting conflict between female characters that has nothing to do with love interests.
I get that Mum couldn’t be on her matches since she’s reporting on them but what’s with her absence even in her childhood. She has a phone but mom doesn’t check her with at all, even once. Yu rim may be poor but in everything else she’s luckier than Hee do. Fear of not reaching the financial stability you want can make you selfish and that’s where she’s headed. Hee do doesn’t have to worry about that, she only cares about her passion but has many setbacks preventing her from making it big unlike Yu rim at this point. Who also has quite reasonable parents that keep telling her she shouldn’t worry about making it big or becoming rich but I get where she’s coming from.
The inscription on Gu Young-Chun perfectly describes him. I love the subtext and the styling choice. Cheeky and satisfying to see the label fit for one of the most perplexing and unstable minds.
Another great weekend thanks to Through the Darkness. The only thing running through my mind now is how many people would be eligible for Baeksang nominations this year. A truly stellar performance from the cast.
Ghost Doctor really is a rom com between Cha Young Min and Ko Seung Tak.
Didn\’t think I would love the finale so much. It was a pleasure to watch those two together.
Friday 25th…I have been expecting you since January 25th.
The sigh of relief.
What have I been doing for the past three weeks🤔? I have literally been counting down.
86…March 12, you are next😁
In 14 days, Through the Darkness will be back on screen. I have been so bored in the past two weeks because it\’s the only thing I am watching right now.
The anxiety is no joke😫
My dream is for dramaland to announce an adaptation of manga/anime Kamisama Hajimemashita.
However, Nanami is a college student and Tomoe a nine-tailed fox, but still serving the earth or land god as a familiar.
I have already mapped out the plot structure of all 16 episodes and filled every possible plot hole (in my head).
I love that anime so much. This is my ultimate drama wish.
Is there someone I can write to to make this dream come true?
I just noticed some discrepancies on Netflix.
I won\’t hide the shame: I downloaded Stove League illegally when it came out years ago🙈. I don\’t regret it; it\’s one of my favourite dramas.
However, as soon as it was available on Netflix in my country, I deleted the illegal downloads.
Now that I am watching on Netflix, I can\’t help but notice some cuts here and there. As someone who has watched the drama over 10 times, I notice these cuts.
For example, in episode 9 when Seung-Soo returns to the Dreams, the cheesy welcome song they sang for him was cut away. That was my favourite part🥺.
I don\’t know if it\’s Netflix or the production studio at fault, but this reduces viewer experience and makes you feel shortchanged, especially when you have seen a version before and loved it.
This is my first time experiencing this, so it hurts.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Copyright reasons. Anything involving a song that isn’t the OST of the show can be disrupted by copyright, because sometimes they only have the rights to use the music internationally for a set amount of time (a year or so). Sometimes they just cut the scene, other times they change the music. But if you watch something on Netflix or another service in Korea, usually the music is still there. Because of some specificity when they bought the copyright to use the music.
You’ll notice it on Viki too for some dramas. In the US if you watch something on Kocowa though, the original music is always there. I started watching Fight My Way on Viki but the music changes were so obvious, so I checked to see if the same happened on Kocowa and it didn’t. I believe it’s because Kocowa is actually owned by KBS, SBS, and MBC.
Oh, thanks for the clarification. The music change did take me out of it. I guess I should alternate between Kocowa and Netflix then. I like the original with the songs.
Thank you 😊.
Is it too early to say I love Through the Darkness?
There is this realistic way Kim Nam Gil is playing his character that I already see things through his eyes.
I\’m intrigued already.
zitless
September 17, 2022 at 4:31 AM
Young Actors’ Retreat is a hoot!
What I have learnt about the actors:
Bo-gum is a cute foodie. He is literally a happy child.
Seo-jun is easily flustered and forgets where he is.
In-yeop is a worrywart. He overthinks. (Who apologises for failing a challenge before they even start?)
Chan-wook is a ditz. Really gullible too (a shocking finding)
Dong-yeon is competitive, snarky, witty, and really smart (I’m sure he cusses a lot too).
Jin-young and kyung-soo are just those guys that never disappoint with their brains. The mood keepers.
For the females:
Joo-young and Yoo-jung are really smart and efficient. They are a great duo you would love to have in your team.
Sung-eun is mostly lost.
Soo-bin blends with the crowd, you forget she is there sometimes.
Hye-won is also competitive.
Bo-yoon (poor maknae) is always flustered when she is the center of attention.
Na ra is a riot. All over the place.
Ahn Bo-hyun is all that is left. Hopefully next week that is settled.
In all, some of these actors’ real personalities are a pleasant surprise (even more shocked there are more introverts). I’m having fun because they are having fun.
I want to go on a retreat too. Haven’t gone on one in over a decade😩.
Found a new happy pill.
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 17, 2022 at 5:02 AM
Wasn’t it a joy that Inyeop was the only one who succeeded at the very task he and everyone else thought he would fail. The letter in the tent was priceless. I loved how they all chatted to the ghosts saying hello and thank you.
Wookie and the bug story was so funny. I am with him on the bugs though!🤣
zitless
September 17, 2022 at 5:38 AM
In-yeop is one of those people who, rather than place confidence in their skill, place it on let letting people get hurt by their shortcomings. People like that inadvertently do well. I actually loved that about him. He and Kyun-soo are the hidden gems of this show.
Dong-yeon is cherry on top.
zitless
September 17, 2022 at 5:39 AM
*not letting*
zitless
September 17, 2022 at 5:39 AM
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Ally
September 17, 2022 at 7:00 PM
I just got a chance to see the latest episode. I may have to adopt In yeop, he’s just adorable. And I’m glad Bogummy got to eat something substantial.
Lixie
September 18, 2022 at 6:34 AM
What if it’s scripted? Would you still like it?
zitless
September 18, 2022 at 7:05 AM
It’s all fun. It’s not like I’ll ever meet them to ask if they were being themselves. As long as they are not harming, harassing, or belittling anyone, beliefs, or culture, I’m good.
Lixie
September 18, 2022 at 10:18 AM
That’s a very interesting reply. Do you mind if I ask some more? What level of scripting would you still think is fine? A loose script in which they are given directions of what to do and how to behave while still allowing for some natural interaction? Do you think that is really possible if they all have “characters” to play? A very detailed script with lines and specific actions? Do you think it’s part of their job to sell their personality? And if yes, that it is something harming no one?
zitless
September 18, 2022 at 11:45 AM
A variety show is never tightly scripted. I’ve watched enough on TV and from behind the scenes to know you can’t always be on top of things. So just go with the flow. Again, I have a laxed opinion on variety shows. My scale goes red when there is a form of imbalance or unfairness.
But reality TV…I cannot stand.
zitless
September 18, 2022 at 12:07 PM
And as to you question about the actors’ job to sell themselves. Yes, I think it is. In all, they control their narrative. Sure, they get hints and nudges, but they decide.
Unfortunately, not every environment gives you the power of choice. That’s where my disconnect comes in. I might not notice this while watching, but once an issue is raised, oh, I lose interest very fast.
Lixie
September 18, 2022 at 1:09 PM
Thanks for your reply. I think it’s so strange that beanies like variety, even if they understand the issue of these actors being part of a culture that sells their personality like products. They are young and have been raised to believe in this culture, probably have very little choice if they join this kind of show. I think this is, or should be, already enough reason to make people from different cultures dislike that kind of thing.
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 19, 2022 at 11:28 PM
Hi
I was wondering was there a particular context to your questions? Are you Korean?
There have been a couple of reality tv programmes in England one called The only way is Essex and the other Made in Chelsea that had loose scripts/settings but they had normal people who are usually attractive influencers who want to increase their reach by being on tv. So, I am wondering if it is unique to Korea that they use actual famous people on these shows. The show I’m a celebrity get me out of here is a direct equivalent, I guess and then there are themed shows like Strictly come dancing as far as I know neither is scripted. I don’t watch any of these show. The only reason I watched the this one was because it had actors I like on it. I expect that they have a tv personality and their real personality but parts of their real personality comes through. I was watching a show I can’t remember what it was and I caught a glimpse of their real face for a second before the mask went back on.
One fine week raised an important issue about the actors who don’t want to go on a variety show due to their own mental health needs just because it was a form of marketing. The producers drama and Shooting stars showed the types of personality actors are given to market them. I think the influence of the fans and the ‘scandal’ culture seems to be unique to Korea but as I am not into this in the UK context I can’t compare the two.
Lixie
September 20, 2022 at 12:04 PM
Hi @reply1988
No, I’m from South America. Sometimes I ask beanies about these korean variety shows because it’s curious. I was never a big fan, mostly because I think everything on them is scripted, but lately my criticism comes more from the fact they are powerful tools their entertainment industry uses to sell these actors as products. This is something I find hard to understand that can be accepted by people raised in the West and most beanies seem to come from there.
As far as veracity goes, take YAR for example, the first episode asks the captains to find some places. A variety show also has to think about budget, schedules, weather. It’s pretty obvious there is a script and actors pretend to be making choices. As far as their behavior, being honest it felt like all of them were “performing” every second of that episode. The weirdest moments were when the show kept playing scenes from the dramas as if to make a connection between their fictional characters and real personalities. That was almost creepy.
I don’t think most of these young actors have the power to refuse acting on these fake shows, selling a persona that is completely fabricated and this is something people should not support.
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 20, 2022 at 12:36 PM
Thanks for replying it’s a really interesting response. Are you still watching the series or once you realised what it was you left?
Lixie
September 20, 2022 at 1:38 PM
This first ep was pretty embarrassing. Should I try ep 2 if I believe everything I said above? I might, the general behavior given to each actor is kind of interesting, what roles they are trying to play in the charade.
Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 20, 2022 at 2:03 PM
@lixie The reason I asked was based on your view it doesn’t make sense that you would continue watching but it wasn’t clear. What shows do you prefer to watch? Do you still like Korean dramas?
Lixie
September 20, 2022 at 3:07 PM
I like kdramas. I’m still interested in their potential to create memorable characters and interesting storys. I prefer romance, melos, romcoms. One of my favorites is your nickname, Reply 1988 was almost perfect. Recently I have enjoyed Yumi, Attorney Woo, Mad for Each Other. I also like their movie thrillers very much.
zitless
September 15, 2022 at 10:50 AM
Show, you just had one job!
zitless
September 15, 2022 at 10:51 AM
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zitless
September 15, 2022 at 10:52 AM
At least they are alive, right???
zitless
September 15, 2022 at 10:54 AM
Adamas the movie?
zitless
September 15, 2022 at 11:48 AM
Adamas season 2? Don’t think I want that.
miss h
September 15, 2022 at 12:11 PM
I really didn’t think they would do an open ending. They weren’t promised a second season before the first even started like Alchemy of Souls and Poong.
Oh well. There won’t be a S2 given the ratings but at least I can tell myself both brothers are alive.
zitless
September 15, 2022 at 12:47 PM
I don’t think a season 2 is a good idea too.
I was expecting an open ending with the twists we’ve been given in the last two episodes. I just wanted the twins alive. That was my only wish🥺.
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
September 15, 2022 at 4:53 PM
I think I’m mostly left confused rn. I mean yeah ok, he’s alive? but… at what apparent cost??? I can think of several ways we could’ve ended it to a similar effect but have more of an actual conclusion.
zitless
September 15, 2022 at 10:46 PM
I have so many theories. I love the show so much, I covered for it’s holes.
zitless
September 14, 2022 at 1:57 PM
How does Ji Sung do it every time!
Now I think I need a playbook on Ji Sung’s acting skills. Something that would dissect even the minute details. This is just so phenomenal.
Is it too early to call dibs on a Baeksang for best actor?
zitless
September 14, 2022 at 2:00 PM
I have always been a fan, but Adamas made him my top favorite (right next to Cho Seung Woo).
Blue (@mayhemf)
September 14, 2022 at 6:11 PM
Awwww.. that is high praise indeed!!
He really is something.. I have been watching him for years and he is aging like fine wine.. It so happens he gets these OTT roles. But where he shines is the poignant emotional scenes.. he is just too good… I want to go back and watch Familiar Wife again!
Provided, we all survive tomorrow’s finale!
zitless
September 14, 2022 at 10:21 PM
I think I am rewatching all his dramas after Adamas. Already queued Dr. John.
My first Ji Sung experience was Secret in 2014 and I liked his strong personality.
Didn’t finish Kill Me Heal Me because Hwang Jung Eum’s screeches were starting to block my ears. Skipped Innocent defendant because I was busy with life and Dr. John just skipped my mind. Looks like I will have to watch those again, just to see him emote alone.
But let us survive episode 16. How will I concentrate at work😨
Midnight
September 15, 2022 at 4:15 AM
Note from experience. While watching Dr John stop at the airport scene near the end, and keep it a great drama and memory.
miss h
September 15, 2022 at 5:31 AM
I agree. Doctor John’s finale had more than a little in common with DDSSLLS’s. It rather soured the experience of what was otherwise a decent enough drama.
zitless
September 15, 2022 at 6:11 AM
Noted. Thank you.
miss h
September 14, 2022 at 3:36 PM
He’s long been my bias for a reason! Unfortunately, the Baeksang’s don’t seem to appreciate Ji Sung’s acting style.
zitless
September 14, 2022 at 3:42 PM
How hopeful are you that he gets it next year? If Beanies wish it, it may come to pass. I have realised we have lots of positive energy in this community. Let’s put it to use.
zitless
August 27, 2022 at 3:34 PM
Alchemy of Souls, what in the cluster fuck was that?!😡🤨😵💫
Feels like I wasted 11 weeks (including off week) on a big pile of 💩
So much potential wasted.
zitless
August 27, 2022 at 3:51 PM
They could have had a tighter story for both seasons with just 24 episodes. But instead they added unnecessary filler and lost the momentum.
The story telling and plot points also became weak and disjointed. They created a great world. All they had to do was stick to the parameters and rules they set, not create new ones to suit their nonsensical storyline.
If they are trying to build a stage to set off the second season, well, they are doing a terrible job.
This would have been a perfect 24 episode drama.
The curse of the Hong Sisters is yet to be dispelled😩.
Hope they do ep20 a reasonable justice. Make things make sense, that’s all I want.
miss h
August 28, 2022 at 1:34 AM
Honestly, I think the story could have been easily told in 20 episodes, better yet 16, but it’s kind of clear that the Hong Sisters became enamored with the world they created and lost track of the story they were telling. What they should have done IMO was finish this story with Uk and Nak-su in 20 episodes, and then if they wanted more, keep some of the supporting characters, bring in new leads, and transport them to another part of the country for a whole new story.
DancingEmma
August 28, 2022 at 7:03 AM
I agree. Episode 19 was just a mess. Even if I am trying to wait until the final episode to have an overall definitive view of the narrative, some glaring problems have been evident. Among these: How did Uk not ask about the events resulting in Mudeok/Naksu gaining her powers back? Maybe, the fact that she was nearly killed/killed and resurrected, should have come up between 2 people who are as close as those 2? What about using Jang Gang as deus ex machina? This was so predictable and devoid of any narrative potency, and how can Buyeon’s paternity being contradicted so absurdly. One minute she is not Wootak’s child. Next minute, she is the genetic inheritor of two powerful mage families. Wootak is dead now so what about his adamant belief? Sigh. And then some. At least, I still like most of the acting.
Jingbee
August 28, 2022 at 7:35 AM
So many gaping open plot holes. The Hong sisters managed to make me feel like I am the dumbest kdrama viewer ever and it is so annoying. That scene with the queen was so dumb, like how can powerful mages not subdue someone without magic holding a puny little dagger to her face? And they were all just standing there amd dont let me start on the lengthy exposition by Park Jin before actually marching in their witness. And Danggu and Cho Yeon just happens to be in that village? Why? And then suddenly changing rules about the ice stone ? WTF?
Jingbee
August 27, 2022 at 9:17 PM
Same reaction. Such disappointment.
emsel
August 27, 2022 at 10:41 PM
Yup! So terrible that I’m glad I lost interest long back.
zitless
August 27, 2022 at 11:10 PM
I wish I had the courage. My love for the cast and the first 12 episodes is what kept me going. I actually lost interest about the time The Good Detective 2’s bad subs came out.
Jance
August 28, 2022 at 10:00 AM
If that’s all it takes, I need to get myself some magic bells. Hahahaha
zitless
July 25, 2022 at 2:09 PM
Café Minamdang really frustrates me. While the writer is trying to make some plots line certain ways, they throw logic (and the FL) under the bus.
Was I the only one that had trouble with the last quarter of episode 9?
I mean rather than bring him in as a witness (he freaken fought gopuri), you decide to arrest him for your own sake.
And I’m sure there should be a law that protects him from such, but we can forget that exists in this reality, can’t we.
To make it worse, you bend his hands backwards to hypnotise him and face what he doesn’t want to face, so we can get Han-Jun vulnerable and he sees Jae-Hui in a new light??? Not cool show.
So many things are lacking and they are not joining the threads together the right way.
At this rate they should pair the FL and SML together. They actually fit more. I’ll rather there be understanding and level ground between the male and female lead than romance. I don’t see it working.
I really love Seo In-Guk, but the drama keeps getting worse. I think this is another Doom on his doorstep 😩.
zitless
July 17, 2022 at 4:01 AM
I try to steer clear of makjangs and melos, especially revenge dramas about cheating and conniving women. Well most times.
But why do I love Remarriage and Desires so much like this😭?
It’s cliché and cheesy with choppy editing, bad continuity, and haphazard plot that could have done well if developed a little. There was nothing new about it, but the four leads have always been on my “I want you to do well list.” I had to show up for them (Lee Hyun Wook did so well as the male lead. Jung Eu Gene is delightful to hate) and I was proud of what I saw.
I wasn’t expecting to like it this much. The happy ending just made me love it more (I am a sucker for happy endings).
Is this how watching makjangs feel like?
My overactive imaginations would not stop creating scenarios of life after the ending for these characters (occupational hazard). Any work of fiction that makes me do that has won my heart.
I’m just happy they’re happy 😊.
So Remarriage and Desires is a bad cheese with a good taste in mouth. And I am not ashamed to say I ❤ it.
Ally
July 17, 2022 at 5:07 AM
But Seori’s OST is perfect. I love it. (Not watching the show, just like her.)
zitless
July 17, 2022 at 5:18 AM
The OST is actually chef’s kiss. I really loved the way it was utilised in the drama.
miss h
July 17, 2022 at 8:15 AM
I’ve watched two episodes so far and like it but then I watched all three seasons of Love (ft Marriage and Divorce). Obviously, I have a thing for cheesy makjang about cheating and conniving women.
zitless
May 18, 2022 at 2:06 PM
Me trying to convince everyone at home to watch Bloody Heart when I know they don’t watch seguks is an obvious losing battle.
But I will not give up. I shall prevail!!!✊🏿
Mel
May 18, 2022 at 7:26 PM
is it airing on netflix? I can’t seem to find it..
Ally
May 18, 2022 at 7:30 PM
Disney+ Asia for now. (Or with a VPN)
Mel
May 18, 2022 at 9:44 PM
gonna try that. Thx!
zitless
May 12, 2022 at 1:55 PM
And so, the drama and angst begins. I really hope they don’t go the way I think they will go.
Please show, surprise me. Be fun and heartwarming always.
#LoveAllPlayEp8
Ally
May 12, 2022 at 2:20 PM
Oh no! I hope it’s just an episode and then back to the underdogs playing badminton and winning!
zitless
May 12, 2022 at 2:35 PM
Hope so too😭
kadota
May 12, 2022 at 5:25 PM
My guess is that next week will be all angst but they’ll move on to happy times the week after? Or is that too much to ask for? Although it will be painful, I think we do need the four main characters to get closure and finally move on. Also I can’t wait for JH’s reaction to the siblings reveal.
zitless
May 12, 2022 at 5:33 PM
Best Part of ep8 was Tae Joon realising Jung Hwan dated his sister 🤣🤣
Watched that scene several times. Can’t wait to see Jung Hwan’s deadpan reaction🤣🤣🤣
Going to be comedy gold.
kadota
May 12, 2022 at 5:43 PM
I had to replay TJ’s hilarious realisation too. He even made JH flinch 🤣
I was waiting for him to just snap and tell JH that he’s JY’s brother since he was so annoyed the whole episode but he never did. Just another thing TJ is holding in 😢
zitless
April 12, 2022 at 5:08 PM
Why isn’t anyone talking about The King of Pigs? That show is awesome and nail biting. It’s a hard watch with all the violence, but really gives me joy when Friday rolls up.
miss h
April 12, 2022 at 6:00 PM
It wasn’t licenced anywhere so I don’t think many are watching it.
zitless
April 12, 2022 at 10:08 PM
True that. I know I am getting it through **the one I shall name**. But it’s really good.
TVING should really look for a way to licence its content on international platforms for international fans. It’s sitting pretty on good money.
miss h
April 13, 2022 at 7:57 AM
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miss h
April 13, 2022 at 8:00 AM
TVING has licensed some, like The Witch’s Diner and Work Later, Drink Now, which leads me to believe it is more about genre and popularity of casts.
ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
April 13, 2022 at 6:47 PM
TVING has content that could be really popular if they found a way to license it internationally. I’m surprised they don’t already have partnerships with existing platforms like Netflix. It seems like a wasted opportunity to not attract this sizeable international audience for their shows.
alasecond
April 13, 2022 at 8:50 AM
its there on usual sites
alasecond
April 13, 2022 at 8:51 AM
is there truly any mystery.. i watched first couple of episodes.. i honestly felt i had the story figured out so kinda lost interest
zitless
April 13, 2022 at 9:02 AM
I’m all for process, which is what I am enjoying at the moment. It’s gripping. 5&6 is still my favourite.
knewbie
April 14, 2022 at 11:14 PM
Even though I’ve seen the animated film, I’m still constantly surprised by the drama. I wasn’t keen on the revenge stuff at first, and I was particularly annoyed by little Hwang Kyung-min growing up to become a fiendish mastermind type. But what motivates/triggers him and Jong-seok, in the past as well as the present, is also much more developed, and fascinatingly so. And what a showcase this drama is for actors playing tortured and/or toxic males! The latest star turn is Oh MIn-seok as adult Kang Min. Just spectacular.
ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
April 13, 2022 at 6:43 PM
I was planning on binging it after it was over. It’s good to see all the rave reviews from everyone currently watching.
zitless
April 14, 2022 at 12:26 AM
Check it out when you have a chance too.
zitless
April 14, 2022 at 12:26 AM
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zitless
April 1, 2022 at 7:34 AM
2521 ends this weekend😱
Feeling all sorts of emotions right now having realised this.
I can’t wait for new episodes, but I don’t want it to end. I want a happy ending, but at the same time I want drama to stay true to itself and the story it has magnificently told from the start.
It’s been a while since I’ve had these combustible emotions for this type of genre.
My ❤ won’t stop beating just thinking about it.
The excitement, the anxiety, the longing, the satisfaction, the nostalgic feeling. I’m already missing it, and it hasn’t even aired.
🥺😭 2521…
zitless
March 8, 2022 at 1:42 PM
Resignation letter slap felt so cathartic 😂.
#crazyloveEp2
zitless
March 6, 2022 at 9:28 AM
I’ve always known Nam Joo Hyuk to be handsome but not my type.
Today, he became No.1 on my list. Hmmm…that boy is fiiineee😍
He satisfied my glass fetish.
Just look at him…I just got *censored*
zitless
March 5, 2022 at 9:08 AM
2521 just exceeded my expectations. To sum it up:
Mum should have done better
Yup Rim is a sore loser
Yi Jin…bless his heart
Hee Do couldn\’t have done it any better.
Ep8 will be all about feelings
Orientedstar
March 5, 2022 at 10:20 AM
I’m hating yu rim with such a passion right now. She is a sore loser and even when she was blabbering about family in the truck with her dad I felt it was just an excuse. She really did’nt want to lose against Hee do and thinks her medal is stolen from her. Such poor sportsmanship.
kadota
March 5, 2022 at 11:20 AM
I never liked Yurim but she’s reached a new low this episode. She’s the most frustrating character I have seen in a while and I even watched Happiness, so that’s saying something. But at the same time, I’ll give it to the show for generating an interesting conflict between female characters that has nothing to do with love interests.
wapz
March 5, 2022 at 12:45 PM
I get that Mum couldn’t be on her matches since she’s reporting on them but what’s with her absence even in her childhood. She has a phone but mom doesn’t check her with at all, even once. Yu rim may be poor but in everything else she’s luckier than Hee do. Fear of not reaching the financial stability you want can make you selfish and that’s where she’s headed. Hee do doesn’t have to worry about that, she only cares about her passion but has many setbacks preventing her from making it big unlike Yu rim at this point. Who also has quite reasonable parents that keep telling her she shouldn’t worry about making it big or becoming rich but I get where she’s coming from.
zitless
February 27, 2022 at 3:17 AM
The inscription on Gu Young-Chun perfectly describes him. I love the subtext and the styling choice. Cheeky and satisfying to see the label fit for one of the most perplexing and unstable minds.
Another great weekend thanks to Through the Darkness. The only thing running through my mind now is how many people would be eligible for Baeksang nominations this year. A truly stellar performance from the cast.
ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
February 27, 2022 at 5:38 PM
Kim Nam-gil deserves a Baeksang nomination at least. I cannot imagine not nominating him. He’s doing some of the best work in his career so far.
zitless
February 23, 2022 at 2:51 PM
Ghost Doctor really is a rom com between Cha Young Min and Ko Seung Tak.
Didn\’t think I would love the finale so much. It was a pleasure to watch those two together.
zitless
February 20, 2022 at 7:42 AM
Friday 25th…I have been expecting you since January 25th.
The sigh of relief.
What have I been doing for the past three weeks🤔? I have literally been counting down.
86…March 12, you are next😁
zitless
February 11, 2022 at 1:03 PM
In 14 days, Through the Darkness will be back on screen. I have been so bored in the past two weeks because it\’s the only thing I am watching right now.
The anxiety is no joke😫
korfan
February 11, 2022 at 8:28 PM
I know so many of us are waiting for Through the Darkness to come back!
neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
February 12, 2022 at 7:14 AM
I have not watched ep7 because I don’t want to wait that long for the next ep
ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
February 12, 2022 at 11:46 AM
Honestly that’s just smart. Wish I did that too.
neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
February 12, 2022 at 12:49 PM
That was the only way I think I can overcome the days of waiting
ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
February 12, 2022 at 11:45 AM
I have been bored sick waiting for Through the Darkness to be back. I hadn’t liked a police drama in so long.
zitless
February 6, 2022 at 7:58 AM
My dream is for dramaland to announce an adaptation of manga/anime Kamisama Hajimemashita.
However, Nanami is a college student and Tomoe a nine-tailed fox, but still serving the earth or land god as a familiar.
I have already mapped out the plot structure of all 16 episodes and filled every possible plot hole (in my head).
I love that anime so much. This is my ultimate drama wish.
Is there someone I can write to to make this dream come true?
mindy
February 6, 2022 at 8:11 AM
That sounds like the perfect kdrama setup, actually. Especially with how gumihos are in vogue.
zitless
February 6, 2022 at 2:52 AM
I just noticed some discrepancies on Netflix.
I won\’t hide the shame: I downloaded Stove League illegally when it came out years ago🙈. I don\’t regret it; it\’s one of my favourite dramas.
However, as soon as it was available on Netflix in my country, I deleted the illegal downloads.
Now that I am watching on Netflix, I can\’t help but notice some cuts here and there. As someone who has watched the drama over 10 times, I notice these cuts.
For example, in episode 9 when Seung-Soo returns to the Dreams, the cheesy welcome song they sang for him was cut away. That was my favourite part🥺.
I don\’t know if it\’s Netflix or the production studio at fault, but this reduces viewer experience and makes you feel shortchanged, especially when you have seen a version before and loved it.
This is my first time experiencing this, so it hurts.
Has anyone else experienced this?
mindy
February 6, 2022 at 3:38 AM
Copyright reasons. Anything involving a song that isn’t the OST of the show can be disrupted by copyright, because sometimes they only have the rights to use the music internationally for a set amount of time (a year or so). Sometimes they just cut the scene, other times they change the music. But if you watch something on Netflix or another service in Korea, usually the music is still there. Because of some specificity when they bought the copyright to use the music.
You’ll notice it on Viki too for some dramas. In the US if you watch something on Kocowa though, the original music is always there. I started watching Fight My Way on Viki but the music changes were so obvious, so I checked to see if the same happened on Kocowa and it didn’t. I believe it’s because Kocowa is actually owned by KBS, SBS, and MBC.
zitless
February 6, 2022 at 4:30 AM
Oh, thanks for the clarification. The music change did take me out of it. I guess I should alternate between Kocowa and Netflix then. I like the original with the songs.
Thank you 😊.
beffels
February 6, 2022 at 8:04 PM
It’s pretty funny on Viki sometimes, if the original song has been subbed but then changed out for a different song….funny, but also a shame.
zitless
January 15, 2022 at 1:33 AM
Is it too early to say I love Through the Darkness?
There is this realistic way Kim Nam Gil is playing his character that I already see things through his eyes.
I\’m intrigued already.
mmmmm
January 15, 2022 at 12:47 PM
KNG is a great actor!