Seriously amused by the similarities between Crazy Love & Crash Course in Romance. Based on the teasers, who could have guessed that they might have more in common than a math instructor with issues?
I’m honestly surprised by how much I already dig it because the teasers did very little for me. I wish the promo had focused more on the family aspect, though, because IMHO, the Mom/Daughter relationship is truly the heart of the show.
Disclaimer: While I have some criticisms, this text wasn’t written in order to hate on the show. As far as I’m concerned, ‘The Killer’s Shopping List’ did a lot of things right and greatly surprised me with its wacky sense of humor, the sheer thrill of its murder mystery as well as the numerous strong, competent women it centered within its narrative.
Another thing of note: I will refer to Fish with she/her pronouns throughout the text.
Let’s jump right into it:
I would lie if I said that I liked seeing Fish as a murder suspect. The main reason for this was Dae-sung’s Buffalo Bill reference (= extremely transmisogynistic stereotype: a trans woman as a violent predator to cis women) during his search of Fish᾽s apartment. It just felt so very jarring and hateful. Make no mistake: This observation is not meant to criticize the show’s writing. It was an uncomfortable moment for sure, but the way I understood it, it was clearly used to demonstrate Dae-sung᾽s rigid assumptions and limited knowledge of the world: A (what he can only assume to be) man wearing feminine clothing violates the rules of cisnormative society and seems thus by definition abnormal to him.
Additionally, there᾽s Fish᾽s criminal record. Another big strike against her. Once a criminal, always a criminal, right? After all, it᾽s an ostensibly clear-cut enough category, and Fish with her suspicious behavior seems to fit right into it. And since she privately puts on women’s clothing while seemingly presenting as a cis man in public, well, it’s not that difficult for someone’s thoughts to jump right to a thirty-year-old, transphobic pop-culture staple. Especially if that someone, like Dae-sung, is not particularly well-versed in queer issues.
If you think a little about it, it hasn’t been that long since transfeminine representation reached mainstream media. Netflix’s Orange Is The New Black, which premiered almost ten years ago, is probably one of the more prominent Western examples that successfully featured a trans main character with Laverne Cox starring as Litchfield prison inmate Sophia Burset. However, what greatly differentiates Sophia’s portrayal from the transmisogyny found in Buffalo Bill, is the way her transness is normalized whereas, in Buffalo Bill’s case, it is pathologized instead.
What does this mean exactly? You see, Sophia’s transness is treated as an intrinsic aspect of her humanity. She is trans but she is also a lot of other things: Kind, a lover of all things beautiful, gracious to her friends. By contrast, Buffalo Bill’s transness is shown to be the root of his evil. Both characters are criminals in the sense that they have broken the law, but only one of them has is their transness directly tied to their motivation for accomplishing vicious deeds – Buffalo Bill. And that, unfortunately, is the one Dae-sung decides to compare to Fish.
As already stated, Dae-sung’s worldview is limited. He᾽s good with facts and patterns, less so with circumstances that require more emotional flexibility and nuance from him, such as people with all their inner complexities (i.e. him initially struggling with Meat᾽s attraction to the married Produce). This is also further lampshaded in a later exchange with his mother when he reveals his discoveries about Fish and she reacts with common sense by simply stating that, per se, there is nothing wrong with cross-dressing. (Here, let me high-five you just for that, Ms. Han!) To this, a dumbfounded Dae-sung remarks something in the vein of “Why are you so open-minded?” which, admittedly, made me crack up. It signals how Dae-sung’s mind operates and how hard it must be for him not to impulsively judge Fish for dressing up. By presenting us with Ms. Han’s easy acceptance, the show clearly demonstrates that Dae-sung’s bias is his own personal problem and something he might have to work on later.
One thing I enjoyed a lot, was how clearly the show telegraphed Fish᾽s transness in order to reveal the error of Dae-sung’s suspicions early on: The trans pride flag in Fish᾽s bedroom and the Call Me By Your Name photo in the locker. For someone in the know about queer (pop-)culture, it was very easy to spot that Fish is a member of the queer community. To the discerning viewer, this also automatically explains the stockings and suspicious clothing items in her possession. I kind of wish, though, some of these specific insights would have been communicated to Dae-sung as well. Since he worked as a stand-in for the more unwitting parts of the audience, it could have served as a nice, small learning experience.
The confrontation with Dae-sung and Mom at Fish’s home was really difficult for me to watch. To be perfectly honest, I don᾽t think that the meek apology from both made up for the mistreatment, disrespect, and outright discrimination Fish suffered at their hands in her home and only refuge. I really cannot overstate the importance of Fish’s home as her safe space (= the one location where she can be truly herself), especially considering the backstory with her parents (= a former “home” she had to flee for safety reasons). Maybe it’s just me, but it struck me as extremely traumatic to see Fish’s flat invaded with such nonchalance and righteousness, all in the name of some “greater good” that turned out to be nothing but a plume of biased smoke.
What hurt even more, was Fish᾽s automatic assumption that she would be terminated for coming out – or, more appropriately, being forced out of the closet – only to be assured right away that her services would still be needed regardless. It might have been meant as honest praise for her work, but why the hell would anybody presented with Fish᾽s precious vulnerability (= her coming out and the confession of losing her only friend, after being wrongfully accused of her murder!) tell her in this very moment that her worth lies primarily in her making money and not, maybe, in the way she uniquely contributes to the supermarket staff as a human being?
It didn᾽t help that Fish is later shown to be apathetic towards the situation and behaving in a conveniently reconciliatory manner towards Dae-sung as it seemed just a tad too unrealistic for my taste. Why should she forgive them so quickly? It was a bad thing Dae-sung and Ms. Han did. No way around that. The end doesn’t always justify the means.
Additionally, there᾽s an entire power dynamic at play here that the show doesn’t really care to acknowledge: Fish is entirely dependent on Ms. Han’s willingness to keep her employed. With Fish᾽s prior charges, her chances of finding a new/better job are significantly reduced, even more so once she᾽s officially out as trans and/or starting her transition. This means that if Fish wants to pursue the quality of life she so obviously desires (= surgery), and for which she needs her wages, she’ll better not rock the boat too much for the risk of pissing someone off and getting herself fired. Well, isn’t that just the peachiest situation to be in, right after you got harassed and outed against your will by your superior and her son all while being a community outsider without a support network (= her only friend died and her parents are absent)?
I᾽m not saying that this is how the situation was presented on the show (because, really, there isn᾽t even a tangible hint of a conflict here) but the power imbalance nevertheless constitutes an uncomfortable undercurrent within the narrative that I simply cannot ignore. After all, it is a sad reality that a large number of trans people suffer from financial distress and job insecurity which is probably why the whole thing struck such a chord with me. While I’m of course glad that Fish didn’t have to suffer from these types of problems, I still feel that the potential iffiness of the whole situation shouldn’t have been so completely glossed over and could have actually enriched the characters’ relationships.
On a more positive note: I was really relieved when Ms. Han later assured Fish that she could continue to work at the supermarket even if people found her out, thus granting Fish a real perspective and stability for the future. This was exactly the kind of Momma Bear support moment I had been eagerly waiting for all along.
This may surprise you, but I also quite liked Dae-sung᾽s apology at the store. It felt fitting for him as a character and was probably as sincere as all-encompassing as it was ever going to get. The following moment with A-hee on the roof was illuminating as well with regard to Fish᾽s backstory and the particularities of the theft charges leveled against her. My heart ached when she revealed her abusive home life and the attempts of conversion her parents put her through. While I wish there would have been more screen time dedicated to a true bonding experience, it is entirely understandable that this was simply not the story the show wanted to tell. Which is fine. After all, it᾽s a series about a grizzly murder case, not a queer-adjacent relationship drama. Still, the twist that the charges against Fish were primarily a punishment from her abusive, controlling parents was a very welcome development in my eyes because it highlighted both that blood relation does not always equal “family” *and* that not every criminal is necessarily a bad person.
On a general note: I found it interesting how the show worked at challenging Dae-sung’s bias and ignorance on several matters. It proved to be a nice change from the tired “male genius” archetype who, on his own, possesses every little insight under the sun. To me, it felt also like something of an appeal for connection and empathy. Extending a hand to others in grace and understanding. Bridge differences, come together, and share perspectives. Not only with Fish (who helped Dae-sung reevaluate his trans bias but also poked him in the direction of Meat’s suspicious behavior towards Produce) but also later on with Products (who shone a light on an ugly truth Dae-sung wouldn’t even have considered otherwise and also gave him the drain cleaner hint). To quote, to me, a highly significant and fitting line from our sneaky Auntie: “Do you have to see to know?”
All of them, together, helped Dae-sung and each other (and maybe, hopefully, some parts of the audience as well?) reassess some of their various preconceptions in order to try and look underneath the surface for a fuller picture. It was a community effort in the name of community protection. Stronger together in understanding.
Let’s now come to a central scene from the show’s last episode – the confrontation between Fish and the actual culprit (not going to spoil their identity, that’s why I’m using they/them pronouns) – because, again, Fish’s transness becomes an issue.
The killer accuses Fish of being a monster because she’s not cis. (= The actual wording suggests that the culprit doesn’t think of her as either a man or a woman and that the sole fact makes her monstrous.) This is a clearly a transphobic insult that denies Fish’s humanity on the basis of her transness. Or, in other words, exactly the kind of pathologization of trans people that I already mentioned above while talking about Buffalo Bill.
Fortunately, the show has taught its audience and characters better than this.
We know that the statement is wrong. Fish is not a monster for who she is. For being different. The culprit, instead, is the real monster because they hurt innocent people in the most violent of ways. This is also what Fish gets to tell them. Ha! In your face, you fiend!
While it may not be the most subtle of messages, I thought it was a beautiful moment, almost like a power fantasy. Fish is not only allowed to acknowledge her worth as a person and rise above the worst humanity has to offer, she also gets to talk about avenging her dead friend who was probably the first supporter of her trans journey. It doesn’t matter that Fish is shown injured shortly afterward. Since the culprit managed to wound and kill several people before, a trained cop among them, it would have been a true miracle for her to come out of this scenario completely unscathed. This is why I still consider the confrontation a big moment for Fish. Ultimately, the scene focused on her loss, her pain, her virtue and showed her at her most courageous. You go, girl!
The absolute best moment, for me, was Fish’s transformation into a beautiful woman at the end and the way Part-Timer casually called her “unnie” as if she’s done so at least another hundred times already. I’m not ashamed to say that this scene made me bawl like a baby. This, exactly this, is what I wanted to see: Other characters explicitly acknowledging Fish’s transness. Not by complimenting her make-up or by offering to go shopping together (which, don’t get me wrong, were nice little details), but by explicitly validating her self-expression. And how cute were all those customer compliments on her looks? My heart.
In a world that remains increasingly hostile to trans lives, it is crucially important to not only present trans suffering but to also focus on trans people thriving. Here, we see Fish, happy, finally out to the public after her long-awaited surgery, and working a job she likes with people who love and respect her. She’s found her place and her community.
I’m so glad that the drama chose to give her this kind of peace. 🥰
To sum up: While some of the show’s emotional beats felt a little undercooked to me in favor of advancing the murder mystery, I nevertheless have to applaud its heart-warming message of community support and LGBTQ+ inclusion. From where I’m standing, it was a satisfying watch with a great cast, memorable characters, and a quick-paced, engaging storyline.
(For those of you who haven’t watched the show yet: If you are a sensitive person who struggles with dark content, you might want to skip this one as it deals with lots of violence and several different types of trauma. Sure, the ending is sweet, cathartic even, and implies lots of off-screen healing for most of the cast. However, in my eyes, this and the show’s general humor don’t necessarily manage to lessen the impact of some of the more disturbing themes and implications. Be careful.)
When I started The Killer’s Shopping list, I honestly didn’t expect “all-around badass ahjumma/himbo man bun trophy husband” to become one of my favorite character dynamics on the show.
I\’m so grateful that Sh**ting Stars didn\’t go for a homophobic punchline this week. They actually managed to subvert my worst fears. Please let me tell you how. An In-Depth Analysis.
Disclaimer: I’m mainly typing this because, in the past year, I’ve dealt with so much homophobia in my main fandom (not K-drama related). As a queer fan, it’s been a real blow to the soul each and every time. So, yeah, I’m absolutely ecstatic and grateful that Sh**ting Stars did not go for a cheap laugh.
1) The real problem, obviously, is the gross invasion of privacy and it is treated as such. When the Starforce boss asks if Soo-hyuk is dating Tae-sung, it isn’t with any hint of disgust or negative judgment. He’s merely caught unawares by the article and wants to confirm the facts in order to be able to contain the PR damage. The way his questions and Soo-hyuk’s affirmative answers build up, the joke is about how all these innocuous coincidences have turned into perfect, tiny puzzle pieces to make this one big, completely absurd rumor happen. Likewise, Soo-hyuk’s exasperation is obviously due to the scurrility of him currently courting Han-byeol and Tae-sung being his actual love rival, not his (alleged) boyfriend. This is obviously a messy situation all around, but not because they’re both men.
2) When Ki-bbeum and her colleagues talk about the article, they compliment Soo-hyuk’s appearance and his visual compatibility with the nation’s boyfriend Tae-sung. I think it’s a particularly nice touch to have the sole male colleague in the scene comment that he could see both of these handsome men being in a relationship because it implicitly removes the shame and stigma associated with the mere possibility of them being together for real. This way, it’s clearly signaled that this group of characters has no problem with queer people and relationships.
3) Soo-hyuk’s secretary is fast to confirm to him that she harbors no prejudice against queer people. While we don’t know if she’s being completely honest here, I would say that it’s generally a nice, supportive gesture. Overwhelmed, Soo-hyuk threatens to sue her immediately. As we see, he is hounded by phone calls, so it is easy to imagine what bullshit he’s probably already dealt with. Furthermore, since he has already been established as a private person (= no house parties) valuing his boundaries (= no work after 6 pm), this stress response is to be expected from a lawyer and isn’t indicative of homophobia but rather an attempt to reestablish professional boundaries. This conclusion is confirmed in a later scene when Soo-hyuk signals his absolute disinterest in blurring personal and professional boundaries with his hobby matchmaker of a secretary. He doesn’t want her meddling in his private life, regardless of her thinking of him as straight or gay.
4) During the interview with Ki-bbeum, Soo-huyk jokes about his parents calling him about his so-called boyfriend. Again, the situation is framed not primarily as a gay issue but as a frustrating invasion of privacy as it increasingly interferes with Soo-hyuk’s professional life. Soo-hyuk additionally emphasizes how much he values his working hours when he mentions that he’s only giving this one interview because he’s already wasted enough of his time as it is.
Two other nice details:
– Soo-hyuk is allowed to be more verbally annoyed with his yearbook picture popping up online than the implication of him being queer.
– That one male reporter (who commented on the handsomeness of both men listed in 2)), of all people, is the person who asks Ki-bbeum if the rumors really aren’t true. For whatever reason, he almost seems disappointed.
5) During Soo-huyk and Tae-sung’s stairwell meeting, the running gag about their gay relationship becomes part of their game of chicken. Who yields first, loses. Instead of using this situation to emasculate either of them, the show turns the situation around on both men: In order to prove their masculinity and to successfully one-up each other, they each have to choose to become part of the joke. Honestly, I thought it was hilarious. While I’ve seen scenarios like this one before (albeit, primarily, with straight male characters acting like offensive caricatures of gay men), I liked that there was still a believable restraint in Soo-hyuk and Tae-sung’s interaction.
And the hilarity doesn’t end here because when Jung-yeol leaves under the guise of giving the two love birds some privacy, it’s primarily to escape the much-despised stairwell. So, in conclusion: All three men are handling this running gag with absolute grace and positivity. Soo-huyk even uses Tae-sung’s happy new relationship with Han-byeol as a bargaining ship to win back his elevator rights which is an appropriately hilarious conclusion to their little stairwell standoff saga if you ask me.
6) Last but not least: Soo-huyk talks with his mother on the phone and jokes about Tae-sung not being his type, even if he were into men. (!) This scene was absolutely not necessary in terms of plot advancement because it doesn’t relate to any of the show’s other characters. Still, it tells us a lot about Soo-hyuk: First and foremost, he is unbothered enough about the situation to actually tease his mother who, by contrast, seems to be very bothered. That’s a major boss move right there and deeply funny to me. I also really like that he does this quickly after acknowledging to himself the emotional impact of Han-byeol’s rejection. Although he doesn’t have much to laugh about in this situation, Soo-hyuk decides to cope with good-natured humor.
In conclusion: I don’t know if Sh**ting Stars intentionally went out of their way to keep this plot point light and inoffensive, but at any rate, I was majorly charmed by and laughed a lot about this week’s episodes. They also cemented Soo-hyuk as one of my favorite characters on the show. So far, he’s treated Han-byeol with nothing but respect and courtesy, communicated his feelings for her clearly without pressure, and readily accepted her rejection without making his complicated emotions afterward her problem. He’s professional, mature, emotionally intelligent, and serious yet soft around the edges. I also quite liked that Han-byeol featured in the gay rumor story only so far as to recommend Ki-bbeum off-screen in order to write the article because it allowed for more revealing, private scenes with Soo-hyuk. I really hope we’ll be seeing a lot more of them — and, of course, him — in the very near future.
I totally agree with all of this! When the headline popped up on the show I literally held my breath and prated they didn’ttake the homophobic route. It was refreshing to see them lean into it in a positive way. I appreciated that Soo-hyuk never seemed disgusted by the idea of being queer. I love that the emphasis was on the invasion of privacy. And the stairwell scene was gold and a great way to put that love triangle to rest, especially because it flipped the triangle in such an unexpected way.
It actually reminded me of why I enjoyed Tale of Nokdu so much. There the male protagonist disguised himself as a female for a large portion of the show but he never treated having to be a woman ias degrading to his masculinity and the show did a great job showing just how much he respected the women’s skills but never acted like he was shocked they could take on more traditionally “male” roles. It was so refreshing over the whole “omg women can also be badasses” revelations male protagonists often have.
Great little essay. I loved that little side plot and you’ve elaborated nicely why I liked it! Now, of the writer would have put at least half that much thought on the first episode as to not offend an entire continent of people!
You’re absolutely right. It’s really a shame that they dropped the ball so hard. Such a racist, grossly insensitive portrayal has absolutely no room in a show that aims for easy entertainment, fluffy romance, and general sweetness.
YES YES YES. Everything you just said. As a queer person, fandom spaces and kdramas can be exhausting with because there is just so much homophobia floating around – both subtle and overt. I was just as terrified as you that Sh**ting Stars would use this plot to ramp up the homophobia and make degrading, offensive jokes. After all, they certainly didn’t care for nuance in their racist depiction of “Africa”. So imagine my shock when they don’t fall into the territory of offensive jokes and caricatured depictions of queerness, but rather treat it as it is – a gross invasion of privacy of two individuals. I’m so relieved. This plot also had the double benefit of making Soo-hyuk a much more fleshed-out, well-rounded character for me. He was really sweet and respectful before, but nothing more. I think his reaction to this rumour showed off his personality far more succinctly – mature and emotionally intelligent.
Excellent analysis from you, @massani. And personally speaking, it’s really nice to know there are other queer kdrama fans on this site. It’s a good feeling to not be alone.
This comment made me smile so hard. I’m really happy to meet another queer fan. 🤗
And YES. After that racist depiction of Africa and the way that little boy was used to prop Tae-sung up as some sort of savior and pseudo father figure (??? we didn’t even see him send gifts back, he just received them!), my expectations were so low they were practically in hell. And now, after only two new episodes, I’m suddenly writing glowing reviews and am something of a Soo-hyuk fan? Weird. He tickled me as a character right from the start with his pedantry on full display, but it was simply not enough to keep my interest engaged. But now I’m listening and I really hope they’ll use him similarly well in the future.
Even though a kiss was obviously out of the question, Perfume’s ending still felt refreshing to me. However, I wouldn’t recommend the drama to anyone struggling with serious body image issues. ⛔
Bo-mi in Spring Turns to Spring was one of the meanest, balls-to-the-wall female protagonists I’ve ever seen. Needless to say, I absolutely adored her and this entire mess of a show. <3
I was looking forward to the new episode all day. It’s just my kind of fluffy, anti-stress TV. And the art is always so, so cute. (Edit: The drama in question is My Secret Romance.)
Thanks for your comment! 🙂 Oh, I miss it too. W was one of the most exciting and memorable shows of 2016 for me. I’m still waiting for something with a similar appeal. (The art is from fourth episode of the drama My Secret Romance, btw. Sadly, it’s not really comparable to W – unless you count the art and a hunky male lead.)
haha yeah i know it’s from my secret romance. havent check out that drama but may do soon. 😉
and yes, w was one crazy ride. i live-watched it coz i chanced upon the 1st episode on tv and from then on i was soooooooo intrigued by it to the point that the drama was on my mind for that whole 8 weeks or so 😱
massani
January 29, 2023 at 1:45 PM
I’m already absolutely feral over this moment.
massani
January 15, 2023 at 9:37 AM
Seriously amused by the similarities between Crazy Love & Crash Course in Romance. Based on the teasers, who could have guessed that they might have more in common than a math instructor with issues?
emsel
January 15, 2023 at 10:15 AM
Ikr. I thought I was the only one, but for now I’m enjoying “Crash Course in Romance” because all the characters are lovely.
massani
January 15, 2023 at 10:36 AM
I’m honestly surprised by how much I already dig it because the teasers did very little for me. I wish the promo had focused more on the family aspect, though, because IMHO, the Mom/Daughter relationship is truly the heart of the show.
massani
May 26, 2022 at 7:38 AM
To whom it may concern: Here are 2.000+ words of thoughts on the LGBTQ+ representation in The Killer’s Shopping List. ⬇️⬇️⬇️ [SPOILERS]
massani
May 26, 2022 at 7:39 AM
Disclaimer: While I have some criticisms, this text wasn’t written in order to hate on the show. As far as I’m concerned, ‘The Killer’s Shopping List’ did a lot of things right and greatly surprised me with its wacky sense of humor, the sheer thrill of its murder mystery as well as the numerous strong, competent women it centered within its narrative.
Another thing of note: I will refer to Fish with she/her pronouns throughout the text.
Let’s jump right into it:
I would lie if I said that I liked seeing Fish as a murder suspect. The main reason for this was Dae-sung’s Buffalo Bill reference (= extremely transmisogynistic stereotype: a trans woman as a violent predator to cis women) during his search of Fish᾽s apartment. It just felt so very jarring and hateful. Make no mistake: This observation is not meant to criticize the show’s writing. It was an uncomfortable moment for sure, but the way I understood it, it was clearly used to demonstrate Dae-sung᾽s rigid assumptions and limited knowledge of the world: A (what he can only assume to be) man wearing feminine clothing violates the rules of cisnormative society and seems thus by definition abnormal to him.
Additionally, there᾽s Fish᾽s criminal record. Another big strike against her. Once a criminal, always a criminal, right? After all, it᾽s an ostensibly clear-cut enough category, and Fish with her suspicious behavior seems to fit right into it. And since she privately puts on women’s clothing while seemingly presenting as a cis man in public, well, it’s not that difficult for someone’s thoughts to jump right to a thirty-year-old, transphobic pop-culture staple. Especially if that someone, like Dae-sung, is not particularly well-versed in queer issues.
If you think a little about it, it hasn’t been that long since transfeminine representation reached mainstream media. Netflix’s Orange Is The New Black, which premiered almost ten years ago, is probably one of the more prominent Western examples that successfully featured a trans main character with Laverne Cox starring as Litchfield prison inmate Sophia Burset. However, what greatly differentiates Sophia’s portrayal from the transmisogyny found in Buffalo Bill, is the way her transness is normalized whereas, in Buffalo Bill’s case, it is pathologized instead.
What does this mean exactly? You see, Sophia’s transness is treated as an intrinsic aspect of her humanity. She is trans but she is also a lot of other things: Kind, a lover of all things beautiful, gracious to her friends. By contrast, Buffalo Bill’s transness is shown to be the root of his evil. Both characters are criminals in the sense that they have broken the law, but only one of them has is their transness directly tied to their motivation for accomplishing vicious deeds – Buffalo Bill. And that, unfortunately, is the one Dae-sung decides to compare to Fish.
massani
May 26, 2022 at 7:40 AM
As already stated, Dae-sung’s worldview is limited. He᾽s good with facts and patterns, less so with circumstances that require more emotional flexibility and nuance from him, such as people with all their inner complexities (i.e. him initially struggling with Meat᾽s attraction to the married Produce). This is also further lampshaded in a later exchange with his mother when he reveals his discoveries about Fish and she reacts with common sense by simply stating that, per se, there is nothing wrong with cross-dressing. (Here, let me high-five you just for that, Ms. Han!) To this, a dumbfounded Dae-sung remarks something in the vein of “Why are you so open-minded?” which, admittedly, made me crack up. It signals how Dae-sung’s mind operates and how hard it must be for him not to impulsively judge Fish for dressing up. By presenting us with Ms. Han’s easy acceptance, the show clearly demonstrates that Dae-sung’s bias is his own personal problem and something he might have to work on later.
One thing I enjoyed a lot, was how clearly the show telegraphed Fish᾽s transness in order to reveal the error of Dae-sung’s suspicions early on: The trans pride flag in Fish᾽s bedroom and the Call Me By Your Name photo in the locker. For someone in the know about queer (pop-)culture, it was very easy to spot that Fish is a member of the queer community. To the discerning viewer, this also automatically explains the stockings and suspicious clothing items in her possession. I kind of wish, though, some of these specific insights would have been communicated to Dae-sung as well. Since he worked as a stand-in for the more unwitting parts of the audience, it could have served as a nice, small learning experience.
The confrontation with Dae-sung and Mom at Fish’s home was really difficult for me to watch. To be perfectly honest, I don᾽t think that the meek apology from both made up for the mistreatment, disrespect, and outright discrimination Fish suffered at their hands in her home and only refuge. I really cannot overstate the importance of Fish’s home as her safe space (= the one location where she can be truly herself), especially considering the backstory with her parents (= a former “home” she had to flee for safety reasons). Maybe it’s just me, but it struck me as extremely traumatic to see Fish’s flat invaded with such nonchalance and righteousness, all in the name of some “greater good” that turned out to be nothing but a plume of biased smoke.
massani
May 26, 2022 at 7:42 AM
What hurt even more, was Fish᾽s automatic assumption that she would be terminated for coming out – or, more appropriately, being forced out of the closet – only to be assured right away that her services would still be needed regardless. It might have been meant as honest praise for her work, but why the hell would anybody presented with Fish᾽s precious vulnerability (= her coming out and the confession of losing her only friend, after being wrongfully accused of her murder!) tell her in this very moment that her worth lies primarily in her making money and not, maybe, in the way she uniquely contributes to the supermarket staff as a human being?
It didn᾽t help that Fish is later shown to be apathetic towards the situation and behaving in a conveniently reconciliatory manner towards Dae-sung as it seemed just a tad too unrealistic for my taste. Why should she forgive them so quickly? It was a bad thing Dae-sung and Ms. Han did. No way around that. The end doesn’t always justify the means.
Additionally, there᾽s an entire power dynamic at play here that the show doesn’t really care to acknowledge: Fish is entirely dependent on Ms. Han’s willingness to keep her employed. With Fish᾽s prior charges, her chances of finding a new/better job are significantly reduced, even more so once she᾽s officially out as trans and/or starting her transition. This means that if Fish wants to pursue the quality of life she so obviously desires (= surgery), and for which she needs her wages, she’ll better not rock the boat too much for the risk of pissing someone off and getting herself fired. Well, isn’t that just the peachiest situation to be in, right after you got harassed and outed against your will by your superior and her son all while being a community outsider without a support network (= her only friend died and her parents are absent)?
I᾽m not saying that this is how the situation was presented on the show (because, really, there isn᾽t even a tangible hint of a conflict here) but the power imbalance nevertheless constitutes an uncomfortable undercurrent within the narrative that I simply cannot ignore. After all, it is a sad reality that a large number of trans people suffer from financial distress and job insecurity which is probably why the whole thing struck such a chord with me. While I’m of course glad that Fish didn’t have to suffer from these types of problems, I still feel that the potential iffiness of the whole situation shouldn’t have been so completely glossed over and could have actually enriched the characters’ relationships.
On a more positive note: I was really relieved when Ms. Han later assured Fish that she could continue to work at the supermarket even if people found her out, thus granting Fish a real perspective and stability for the future. This was exactly the kind of Momma Bear support moment I had been eagerly waiting for all along.
massani
May 26, 2022 at 7:46 AM
This may surprise you, but I also quite liked Dae-sung᾽s apology at the store. It felt fitting for him as a character and was probably as sincere as all-encompassing as it was ever going to get. The following moment with A-hee on the roof was illuminating as well with regard to Fish᾽s backstory and the particularities of the theft charges leveled against her. My heart ached when she revealed her abusive home life and the attempts of conversion her parents put her through. While I wish there would have been more screen time dedicated to a true bonding experience, it is entirely understandable that this was simply not the story the show wanted to tell. Which is fine. After all, it᾽s a series about a grizzly murder case, not a queer-adjacent relationship drama. Still, the twist that the charges against Fish were primarily a punishment from her abusive, controlling parents was a very welcome development in my eyes because it highlighted both that blood relation does not always equal “family” *and* that not every criminal is necessarily a bad person.
On a general note: I found it interesting how the show worked at challenging Dae-sung’s bias and ignorance on several matters. It proved to be a nice change from the tired “male genius” archetype who, on his own, possesses every little insight under the sun. To me, it felt also like something of an appeal for connection and empathy. Extending a hand to others in grace and understanding. Bridge differences, come together, and share perspectives. Not only with Fish (who helped Dae-sung reevaluate his trans bias but also poked him in the direction of Meat’s suspicious behavior towards Produce) but also later on with Products (who shone a light on an ugly truth Dae-sung wouldn’t even have considered otherwise and also gave him the drain cleaner hint). To quote, to me, a highly significant and fitting line from our sneaky Auntie: “Do you have to see to know?”
All of them, together, helped Dae-sung and each other (and maybe, hopefully, some parts of the audience as well?) reassess some of their various preconceptions in order to try and look underneath the surface for a fuller picture. It was a community effort in the name of community protection. Stronger together in understanding.
massani
May 26, 2022 at 7:53 AM
Let’s now come to a central scene from the show’s last episode – the confrontation between Fish and the actual culprit (not going to spoil their identity, that’s why I’m using they/them pronouns) – because, again, Fish’s transness becomes an issue.
The killer accuses Fish of being a monster because she’s not cis. (= The actual wording suggests that the culprit doesn’t think of her as either a man or a woman and that the sole fact makes her monstrous.) This is a clearly a transphobic insult that denies Fish’s humanity on the basis of her transness. Or, in other words, exactly the kind of pathologization of trans people that I already mentioned above while talking about Buffalo Bill.
Fortunately, the show has taught its audience and characters better than this.
We know that the statement is wrong. Fish is not a monster for who she is. For being different. The culprit, instead, is the real monster because they hurt innocent people in the most violent of ways. This is also what Fish gets to tell them. Ha! In your face, you fiend!
While it may not be the most subtle of messages, I thought it was a beautiful moment, almost like a power fantasy. Fish is not only allowed to acknowledge her worth as a person and rise above the worst humanity has to offer, she also gets to talk about avenging her dead friend who was probably the first supporter of her trans journey. It doesn’t matter that Fish is shown injured shortly afterward. Since the culprit managed to wound and kill several people before, a trained cop among them, it would have been a true miracle for her to come out of this scenario completely unscathed. This is why I still consider the confrontation a big moment for Fish. Ultimately, the scene focused on her loss, her pain, her virtue and showed her at her most courageous. You go, girl!
massani
May 26, 2022 at 8:04 AM
The absolute best moment, for me, was Fish’s transformation into a beautiful woman at the end and the way Part-Timer casually called her “unnie” as if she’s done so at least another hundred times already. I’m not ashamed to say that this scene made me bawl like a baby. This, exactly this, is what I wanted to see: Other characters explicitly acknowledging Fish’s transness. Not by complimenting her make-up or by offering to go shopping together (which, don’t get me wrong, were nice little details), but by explicitly validating her self-expression. And how cute were all those customer compliments on her looks? My heart.
In a world that remains increasingly hostile to trans lives, it is crucially important to not only present trans suffering but to also focus on trans people thriving. Here, we see Fish, happy, finally out to the public after her long-awaited surgery, and working a job she likes with people who love and respect her. She’s found her place and her community.
I’m so glad that the drama chose to give her this kind of peace. 🥰
To sum up: While some of the show’s emotional beats felt a little undercooked to me in favor of advancing the murder mystery, I nevertheless have to applaud its heart-warming message of community support and LGBTQ+ inclusion. From where I’m standing, it was a satisfying watch with a great cast, memorable characters, and a quick-paced, engaging storyline.
(For those of you who haven’t watched the show yet: If you are a sensitive person who struggles with dark content, you might want to skip this one as it deals with lots of violence and several different types of trauma. Sure, the ending is sweet, cathartic even, and implies lots of off-screen healing for most of the cast. However, in my eyes, this and the show’s general humor don’t necessarily manage to lessen the impact of some of the more disturbing themes and implications. Be careful.)
massani
May 25, 2022 at 2:33 AM
When I started The Killer’s Shopping list, I honestly didn’t expect “all-around badass ahjumma/himbo man bun trophy husband” to become one of my favorite character dynamics on the show.
massani
May 24, 2022 at 8:24 AM
I\’m so grateful that Sh**ting Stars didn\’t go for a homophobic punchline this week. They actually managed to subvert my worst fears. Please let me tell you how. An In-Depth Analysis.
massani
May 24, 2022 at 8:25 AM
Disclaimer: I’m mainly typing this because, in the past year, I’ve dealt with so much homophobia in my main fandom (not K-drama related). As a queer fan, it’s been a real blow to the soul each and every time. So, yeah, I’m absolutely ecstatic and grateful that Sh**ting Stars did not go for a cheap laugh.
1) The real problem, obviously, is the gross invasion of privacy and it is treated as such. When the Starforce boss asks if Soo-hyuk is dating Tae-sung, it isn’t with any hint of disgust or negative judgment. He’s merely caught unawares by the article and wants to confirm the facts in order to be able to contain the PR damage. The way his questions and Soo-hyuk’s affirmative answers build up, the joke is about how all these innocuous coincidences have turned into perfect, tiny puzzle pieces to make this one big, completely absurd rumor happen. Likewise, Soo-hyuk’s exasperation is obviously due to the scurrility of him currently courting Han-byeol and Tae-sung being his actual love rival, not his (alleged) boyfriend. This is obviously a messy situation all around, but not because they’re both men.
2) When Ki-bbeum and her colleagues talk about the article, they compliment Soo-hyuk’s appearance and his visual compatibility with the nation’s boyfriend Tae-sung. I think it’s a particularly nice touch to have the sole male colleague in the scene comment that he could see both of these handsome men being in a relationship because it implicitly removes the shame and stigma associated with the mere possibility of them being together for real. This way, it’s clearly signaled that this group of characters has no problem with queer people and relationships.
3) Soo-hyuk’s secretary is fast to confirm to him that she harbors no prejudice against queer people. While we don’t know if she’s being completely honest here, I would say that it’s generally a nice, supportive gesture. Overwhelmed, Soo-hyuk threatens to sue her immediately. As we see, he is hounded by phone calls, so it is easy to imagine what bullshit he’s probably already dealt with. Furthermore, since he has already been established as a private person (= no house parties) valuing his boundaries (= no work after 6 pm), this stress response is to be expected from a lawyer and isn’t indicative of homophobia but rather an attempt to reestablish professional boundaries. This conclusion is confirmed in a later scene when Soo-hyuk signals his absolute disinterest in blurring personal and professional boundaries with his hobby matchmaker of a secretary. He doesn’t want her meddling in his private life, regardless of her thinking of him as straight or gay.
massani
May 24, 2022 at 8:25 AM
4) During the interview with Ki-bbeum, Soo-huyk jokes about his parents calling him about his so-called boyfriend. Again, the situation is framed not primarily as a gay issue but as a frustrating invasion of privacy as it increasingly interferes with Soo-hyuk’s professional life. Soo-hyuk additionally emphasizes how much he values his working hours when he mentions that he’s only giving this one interview because he’s already wasted enough of his time as it is.
Two other nice details:
– Soo-hyuk is allowed to be more verbally annoyed with his yearbook picture popping up online than the implication of him being queer.
– That one male reporter (who commented on the handsomeness of both men listed in 2)), of all people, is the person who asks Ki-bbeum if the rumors really aren’t true. For whatever reason, he almost seems disappointed.
5) During Soo-huyk and Tae-sung’s stairwell meeting, the running gag about their gay relationship becomes part of their game of chicken. Who yields first, loses. Instead of using this situation to emasculate either of them, the show turns the situation around on both men: In order to prove their masculinity and to successfully one-up each other, they each have to choose to become part of the joke. Honestly, I thought it was hilarious. While I’ve seen scenarios like this one before (albeit, primarily, with straight male characters acting like offensive caricatures of gay men), I liked that there was still a believable restraint in Soo-hyuk and Tae-sung’s interaction.
And the hilarity doesn’t end here because when Jung-yeol leaves under the guise of giving the two love birds some privacy, it’s primarily to escape the much-despised stairwell. So, in conclusion: All three men are handling this running gag with absolute grace and positivity. Soo-huyk even uses Tae-sung’s happy new relationship with Han-byeol as a bargaining ship to win back his elevator rights which is an appropriately hilarious conclusion to their little stairwell standoff saga if you ask me.
6) Last but not least: Soo-huyk talks with his mother on the phone and jokes about Tae-sung not being his type, even if he were into men. (!) This scene was absolutely not necessary in terms of plot advancement because it doesn’t relate to any of the show’s other characters. Still, it tells us a lot about Soo-hyuk: First and foremost, he is unbothered enough about the situation to actually tease his mother who, by contrast, seems to be very bothered. That’s a major boss move right there and deeply funny to me. I also really like that he does this quickly after acknowledging to himself the emotional impact of Han-byeol’s rejection. Although he doesn’t have much to laugh about in this situation, Soo-hyuk decides to cope with good-natured humor.
massani
May 24, 2022 at 8:26 AM
In conclusion: I don’t know if Sh**ting Stars intentionally went out of their way to keep this plot point light and inoffensive, but at any rate, I was majorly charmed by and laughed a lot about this week’s episodes. They also cemented Soo-hyuk as one of my favorite characters on the show. So far, he’s treated Han-byeol with nothing but respect and courtesy, communicated his feelings for her clearly without pressure, and readily accepted her rejection without making his complicated emotions afterward her problem. He’s professional, mature, emotionally intelligent, and serious yet soft around the edges. I also quite liked that Han-byeol featured in the gay rumor story only so far as to recommend Ki-bbeum off-screen in order to write the article because it allowed for more revealing, private scenes with Soo-hyuk. I really hope we’ll be seeing a lot more of them — and, of course, him — in the very near future.
SnarkyJellyfish
May 24, 2022 at 10:23 AM
I totally agree with all of this! When the headline popped up on the show I literally held my breath and prated they didn’ttake the homophobic route. It was refreshing to see them lean into it in a positive way. I appreciated that Soo-hyuk never seemed disgusted by the idea of being queer. I love that the emphasis was on the invasion of privacy. And the stairwell scene was gold and a great way to put that love triangle to rest, especially because it flipped the triangle in such an unexpected way.
It actually reminded me of why I enjoyed Tale of Nokdu so much. There the male protagonist disguised himself as a female for a large portion of the show but he never treated having to be a woman ias degrading to his masculinity and the show did a great job showing just how much he respected the women’s skills but never acted like he was shocked they could take on more traditionally “male” roles. It was so refreshing over the whole “omg women can also be badasses” revelations male protagonists often have.
massani
May 25, 2022 at 1:19 AM
Thank you so much for your comment! I haven’t checked out Tale of Nokdu but after reading your comment, I think I should remedy that.
Ally
May 24, 2022 at 10:40 AM
Great little essay. I loved that little side plot and you’ve elaborated nicely why I liked it! Now, of the writer would have put at least half that much thought on the first episode as to not offend an entire continent of people!
massani
May 25, 2022 at 1:29 AM
You’re absolutely right. It’s really a shame that they dropped the ball so hard. Such a racist, grossly insensitive portrayal has absolutely no room in a show that aims for easy entertainment, fluffy romance, and general sweetness.
ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
May 24, 2022 at 2:12 PM
YES YES YES. Everything you just said. As a queer person, fandom spaces and kdramas can be exhausting with because there is just so much homophobia floating around – both subtle and overt. I was just as terrified as you that Sh**ting Stars would use this plot to ramp up the homophobia and make degrading, offensive jokes. After all, they certainly didn’t care for nuance in their racist depiction of “Africa”. So imagine my shock when they don’t fall into the territory of offensive jokes and caricatured depictions of queerness, but rather treat it as it is – a gross invasion of privacy of two individuals. I’m so relieved. This plot also had the double benefit of making Soo-hyuk a much more fleshed-out, well-rounded character for me. He was really sweet and respectful before, but nothing more. I think his reaction to this rumour showed off his personality far more succinctly – mature and emotionally intelligent.
Excellent analysis from you, @massani. And personally speaking, it’s really nice to know there are other queer kdrama fans on this site. It’s a good feeling to not be alone.
massani
May 25, 2022 at 1:15 AM
This comment made me smile so hard. I’m really happy to meet another queer fan. 🤗
And YES. After that racist depiction of Africa and the way that little boy was used to prop Tae-sung up as some sort of savior and pseudo father figure (??? we didn’t even see him send gifts back, he just received them!), my expectations were so low they were practically in hell. And now, after only two new episodes, I’m suddenly writing glowing reviews and am something of a Soo-hyuk fan? Weird. He tickled me as a character right from the start with his pedantry on full display, but it was simply not enough to keep my interest engaged. But now I’m listening and I really hope they’ll use him similarly well in the future.
massani
May 24, 2022 at 4:19 AM
Even though a kiss was obviously out of the question, Perfume’s ending still felt refreshing to me. However, I wouldn’t recommend the drama to anyone struggling with serious body image issues. ⛔
ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
May 24, 2022 at 5:53 AM
A kiss really shouldn’t be out of the question 😔. We the audience deserved that kissed, not to mention the FL in her real body.
ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
May 24, 2022 at 5:54 AM
*deserved that kiss. Sorry my autocorrect is acting up.
massani
May 25, 2022 at 1:38 AM
I know that it shouldn’t be out of the question. 😭 I guess I was just going with the good ol’ “beggars can’t be choosers” wisdom here. 😥
massani
May 24, 2022 at 1:39 AM
What I really mean when I say that Cha-woong’s dynamic with his ragtag group of ghosts is one of my favorite parts of Showtime Begins.
massani
May 23, 2022 at 5:56 PM
cultured K-drama fans: When did you fall in love with Shin Sung-rok? Was it Liar Game? My Love from the Star? Kairos? Or maybe Thank You?
Me: *starts to sweat*
Kairoskat 💐
May 24, 2022 at 12:10 AM
Jo Geun Woo!!!!
Thank you for posting a SSR pic on the fanwall, it brought me out of DB hibernation 🤣
massani
May 25, 2022 at 1:45 AM
Glad to be of service! 🥰
Waadmay
May 26, 2022 at 2:15 PM
I thought Seo Yido was your Man.
massani
May 23, 2022 at 4:09 PM
Bo-mi in Spring Turns to Spring was one of the meanest, balls-to-the-wall female protagonists I’ve ever seen. Needless to say, I absolutely adored her and this entire mess of a show. <3
mindy
May 23, 2022 at 4:13 PM
This show was insane but oh so fun and I really wish Lee Yu-ri did more than just weekenders.
emsel
May 23, 2022 at 8:53 PM
This show was hilariois until the last few episodes where they decided to give get serious and tie the loose ends🙄
massani
April 25, 2017 at 11:04 AM
I was looking forward to the new episode all day. It’s just my kind of fluffy, anti-stress TV. And the art is always so, so cute. (Edit: The drama in question is My Secret Romance.)
Jrr 🌈
April 25, 2017 at 11:36 AM
woo! this reminds me of w two worlds. awwww i miss it so much 😭
massani
April 25, 2017 at 11:55 AM
Thanks for your comment! 🙂 Oh, I miss it too. W was one of the most exciting and memorable shows of 2016 for me. I’m still waiting for something with a similar appeal. (The art is from fourth episode of the drama My Secret Romance, btw. Sadly, it’s not really comparable to W – unless you count the art and a hunky male lead.)
Jrr 🌈
April 25, 2017 at 12:01 PM
haha yeah i know it’s from my secret romance. havent check out that drama but may do soon. 😉
and yes, w was one crazy ride. i live-watched it coz i chanced upon the 1st episode on tv and from then on i was soooooooo intrigued by it to the point that the drama was on my mind for that whole 8 weeks or so 😱
massani
April 25, 2017 at 12:38 AM
I’m still not over this scene in My Secret Romance.