M super confused. In his time of death I cn see dat Jiang Cheng’s sword hits the rock n nt wwx technically. I felt dat may be d rock wud crumble n give out lan zhang n jiang cheng… wwx sees dis n lets go?
But den peeps say dat in ep 2 wwx ws actually stabbed by jiang cheng thus causing wwx to fall.
So wat is dat actually happens?
Was he actually stabbed and killed by juang cheng?
Was he stabbed and wwx chose to fall to his death after dat?
Or did jiang cheng just mke a failed attempt as seen in the vdo n wwx chose to fall to his death?
Der r so many interpretatns!!
Help!!
Ha ha… I gt nothing… m still dazed by wwx s charm to actually comprehend d story line. Truth is lost but den if it is lost den does dat mean wat is remembered actually bcms d truth?
I also had this same observation and was told by Beanies that in the book WY was actually stabbed by JC but in the Drama JC stabbed the rock so apparently both are true.
Book never explicitly mentions that.. none of the version.. it is upto the reader..
the 1st version only said, that WWX was scared of JC and did not attack (again as people mentioned who were at that war – so it is a 3rd party narrative)
fan theories also suggest that maybe JC took a dog with him..
No one knows.. but i can’t see JC killing WX in any version
Wow, there are a lot of theories!
I’m still moving my way up in the Audio Drama so maybe it will answer some more questions but right now the only thing I know is that in the Audio Drama, WWX mentions that he doesn’t remember how he died (i’m on S.1E.11).
So I don’t think it’s actually fully said or explained. But Jiang Cheng didn’t actually stab him in the drama but he clearly didn’t have good intentions. In the scene he stabs the rock and then turns his sword like he was about to make a move. WWX eyes widen in shock and then he throws himself back. I’m thinking JC was either going to break the rock LZ was on, thus tumbling both down, or was gunna cut their wrists. WWX saw this and threw himself off to save LZ. JC is a very skilled and high level cultivator so he didn’t miss on accident, it was completely intentional. And he didn’t miss stabbing him with the sword out of some sense of love because after WWX plummets down JC clearly has a look of ‘good riddance’ on his face. JC doesn’t actually stab him in the drama.
@mel In the book it’s not for sure how he died. All the rumors say it was JC that did it (he died a few months after Nightless city in the book after the sects all siege the burial mounds). But WWX specifically said JC didn’t kill him, that his powers backfired on him, killing him. But, WWX has specifically said he has almost no memory of anything that happened after Nightless city. So its not fully said how he died in the book
technically in the original version he died 3 yrs later.
but when author decided to turn this into a full fledged novel – they changed it to 3 months because rest of the timeline didn’t fit with 3 yrs
I concur with @trinpie
The drama started with the scene at Nightless City(ep1). However, the scene was narrated by the storyteller who probably embellished it with hearsay or added his own interpretation.
Note the mysterious man behind the curtain but you can save that for later.
Ep 33-I’d say this was what actually happened. Jiang Chen didn’t stab WWX but when the latter fell to his death, JC didn’t look devastated either.
Everything @trinpie and @outofthisworld said! It is pretty vague, but I believe that JC’s misdirected blame of his family’s death made him want to kill WWX that night but ultimately he could not make himself go through with it and stabbed the rock instead.
I do think it is somewhat of a departure of WWX’s character from the novel that he would want to kill himself, so in someways the vagueness of the real cause of his death in the drama stays true to the ambiguity in the novel as well. 😆
This particular scene is very dear to me and the cinematography is beautiful (except for the shot of the xiao zhan’s extremely pale face when he was holding LZ’s hand. I mean the guy’s skin shade changed in one shot). Deriving straight from the drama, having read not a single page of the Novel, I feel that WWX feels his death was caused by his actions and dare never blame JC for it. Watching JC do what he did in the drama, it feels he did it out of anger. It felt that he really did want WWX to die and hence hit the sword and WWX feeling wat JC’s truly wanted was his death, WWX let go.
So both bros got wat they wanted. WWX – his death and JC – good riddance and poor LZ got regret and it thus feels so sad…
May be the drama writers wanted us to grasp d emotions rather than decipher the technicalities of the scene? Coz I gt d emotions alright but not the technicalities.
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Sweetsammy
October 21, 2019 at 1:25 PM
M super confused. In his time of death I cn see dat Jiang Cheng’s sword hits the rock n nt wwx technically. I felt dat may be d rock wud crumble n give out lan zhang n jiang cheng… wwx sees dis n lets go?
But den peeps say dat in ep 2 wwx ws actually stabbed by jiang cheng thus causing wwx to fall.
So wat is dat actually happens?
Was he actually stabbed and killed by juang cheng?
Was he stabbed and wwx chose to fall to his death after dat?
Or did jiang cheng just mke a failed attempt as seen in the vdo n wwx chose to fall to his death?
Der r so many interpretatns!!
Help!!
Sweetsammy
October 21, 2019 at 1:27 PM
Help @outofthisworld n @kimbapnoona
alasecond
October 21, 2019 at 1:40 PM
he he. you clearly didn’t get the main theme of this novel/drama/story
It is the role and power of rumour and how things get exaggerated. People hypothesize and truth gets lost in sea of speculation
Sweetsammy
October 23, 2019 at 9:00 AM
Ha ha… I gt nothing… m still dazed by wwx s charm to actually comprehend d story line. Truth is lost but den if it is lost den does dat mean wat is remembered actually bcms d truth?
alasecond
October 23, 2019 at 10:44 AM
for the society pretty much!
well accepted truth is truth. Who cares about the absolute truth..
Mel
October 21, 2019 at 2:07 PM
I also had this same observation and was told by Beanies that in the book WY was actually stabbed by JC but in the Drama JC stabbed the rock so apparently both are true.
alasecond
October 23, 2019 at 10:46 AM
Book never explicitly mentions that.. none of the version.. it is upto the reader..
the 1st version only said, that WWX was scared of JC and did not attack (again as people mentioned who were at that war – so it is a 3rd party narrative)
fan theories also suggest that maybe JC took a dog with him..
No one knows.. but i can’t see JC killing WX in any version
Mel
October 23, 2019 at 10:58 AM
Wow, there are a lot of theories!
I’m still moving my way up in the Audio Drama so maybe it will answer some more questions but right now the only thing I know is that in the Audio Drama, WWX mentions that he doesn’t remember how he died (i’m on S.1E.11).
Trinity 🍆
October 21, 2019 at 6:49 PM
So I don’t think it’s actually fully said or explained. But Jiang Cheng didn’t actually stab him in the drama but he clearly didn’t have good intentions. In the scene he stabs the rock and then turns his sword like he was about to make a move. WWX eyes widen in shock and then he throws himself back. I’m thinking JC was either going to break the rock LZ was on, thus tumbling both down, or was gunna cut their wrists. WWX saw this and threw himself off to save LZ. JC is a very skilled and high level cultivator so he didn’t miss on accident, it was completely intentional. And he didn’t miss stabbing him with the sword out of some sense of love because after WWX plummets down JC clearly has a look of ‘good riddance’ on his face. JC doesn’t actually stab him in the drama.
@mel In the book it’s not for sure how he died. All the rumors say it was JC that did it (he died a few months after Nightless city in the book after the sects all siege the burial mounds). But WWX specifically said JC didn’t kill him, that his powers backfired on him, killing him. But, WWX has specifically said he has almost no memory of anything that happened after Nightless city. So its not fully said how he died in the book
alasecond
October 23, 2019 at 10:47 AM
technically in the original version he died 3 yrs later.
but when author decided to turn this into a full fledged novel – they changed it to 3 months because rest of the timeline didn’t fit with 3 yrs
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
October 21, 2019 at 8:47 PM
@sweetsammy
I concur with @trinpie
The drama started with the scene at Nightless City(ep1). However, the scene was narrated by the storyteller who probably embellished it with hearsay or added his own interpretation.
Note the mysterious man behind the curtain but you can save that for later.
Ep 33-I’d say this was what actually happened. Jiang Chen didn’t stab WWX but when the latter fell to his death, JC didn’t look devastated either.
🍙 kimbap noona
October 22, 2019 at 6:13 AM
It sure is confusing, isn’t it @sweetsammy?
Everything @trinpie and @outofthisworld said! It is pretty vague, but I believe that JC’s misdirected blame of his family’s death made him want to kill WWX that night but ultimately he could not make himself go through with it and stabbed the rock instead.
I do think it is somewhat of a departure of WWX’s character from the novel that he would want to kill himself, so in someways the vagueness of the real cause of his death in the drama stays true to the ambiguity in the novel as well. 😆
Sweetsammy
October 23, 2019 at 9:49 AM
This particular scene is very dear to me and the cinematography is beautiful (except for the shot of the xiao zhan’s extremely pale face when he was holding LZ’s hand. I mean the guy’s skin shade changed in one shot). Deriving straight from the drama, having read not a single page of the Novel, I feel that WWX feels his death was caused by his actions and dare never blame JC for it. Watching JC do what he did in the drama, it feels he did it out of anger. It felt that he really did want WWX to die and hence hit the sword and WWX feeling wat JC’s truly wanted was his death, WWX let go.
So both bros got wat they wanted. WWX – his death and JC – good riddance and poor LZ got regret and it thus feels so sad…
May be the drama writers wanted us to grasp d emotions rather than decipher the technicalities of the scene? Coz I gt d emotions alright but not the technicalities.