A Virtuous Business: Episodes 11-12 (Final)
by quirkycase
We’re at the finale, and while it’s not exactly a happily ever after – our ladies’ lives have never been perfect – it’s pretty close. However, before we wrap up all our story threads and say goodbye, our saleswomen have a few more hurdles to clear in business and life. At least now they know, whatever they face, they’re strong enough if they band together.
EPISODES 11-12
After Jung-sook discovers Do-hyun’s matching baby outfit at Geum-hee’s, she struggles with how to broach the issue. She talks to Do-hyun first and gently shares what she found. Not one to beat around the bush, Do-hyun takes his own baby clothing with an embroidered mouse – Geum-hee’s signature – straight to Geum-hee to ask her about it. She shakily says she doesn’t know anything, but it’s clear she’s lying.
Do-hyun takes comfort in spending time with Jung-sook and Min-ho, the three of them already looking like a family unit. He and Min-ho adore each other, which obviously warms Jung-sook’s heart. Whereas Do-hyun used to barely ever smile, now he’s nothing but smiles around them.
Do-hyun makes one last-ditch effort to talk to Geum-hee, directly asking why she abandoned him. This time, she doesn’t deny it and says she got pregnant by mistake when she was single. She encourages him to move on with his life, making it clear she does not intend to acknowledge him as her son.
Of course, there’s a little more to the story than that, and it involves the fire in Do-hyun’s dreams. Geum-hee was disowned for her pregnancy but chose to raise Do-hyun alone. However, an accidental fire led to the baby needing medical care she couldn’t afford. Her parents agreed to pay but only if she gave him up.
Geum-hee’s current determination to keep a distance from Do-hyun has a lot to do with the fact that she never told her husband she had a baby. Of course, as these things go, he overhears her admit that to Jung-sook. He takes it surprisingly well, but it turns out he already guessed after finding her secret box of baby things right after their wedding. And he couldn’t miss how teary she got looking at babies. His encouragement is the final push she needs to reach out to Do-hyun and apologize for hurting him, both of them crying out their pain and longing.
Geum-hee sees what her life could’ve been through Ju-ri who similarly got pregnant as a single woman and decided to keep her child despite her parents and boyfriend disowning her for it. Ju-ri struck out on her own in a new town and put on a brave face as everyone looked down on her. But she doesn’t regret her choice for a second, even if she’s had to struggle to provide for herself and her son.
Ju-ri hasn’t had it easy as a single mom, but she’s finally found some comfort in Dae-geun. They’ve grown steadily closer, but their newfound love is threatened by Dae-geun’s meddling mother. After Young-ja catches them canoodling, Dae-geun uncharacteristically stands up to her for demeaning Ju-ri as a poor single mom. The man may be goofy, but he’s serious where it counts.
He makes Ju-ri cry with his passionate defense of her, yelling at his mom that Ju-ri is the only person who has ever believed in him and made him feel good about himself. The couple declares their love for each other and refuses to break up, but then Young-ja kicks Dae-geun out of the house and evicts Ju-ri so she can no longer run her salon. Ju-ri can’t stand the thought of Dae-geun suffering because of her, so she breaks up with him (ah, here’s the noble idiocy) on the condition Young-ja lets him study photography like he wanted.
Meanwhile, Do-hyun gets a job opportunity to move to Seoul on a cold case unit for a couple of years. He’s hesitant to be apart from Jung-sook and Geum-hee, but they both encourage him to take advantage of the opportunity. But before he leaves for the post, Jung-sook facilitates activities to help him and Geum-hee grow more comfortable with each other because their awkwardness is intense.
When Do-hyun and Geum-hee’s relationship becomes public knowledge, Geum-hee’s trio of friends step up, as always, to support her. The ladies assure Geum-hee that they’ve had dramatic enough lives not to judge her, showing once again that the quartet is unbreakable. (Who would’ve thought Geum-hee might become Jung-sook’s mother-in-law?)
Things are looking up for our ladies’ personal lives. Jong-sun is released from jail and returns home, putting things mostly back to normal for Young-bok and her family. Thanks to all the moping around, Young-ja finally relents and gives Dae-geun permission to date Ju-ri. So of course, disaster strikes their business.
The office gets trashed, and their payroll money is stolen. When they call the CEO, the number is no longer in service. Jung-sook, with some police assistance, finds the CEO who spills her story. Stigmatization caused her store in Seoul to shut down, so she tried to start over in Geumje. Thanks to our quartet’s sales numbers, all was well, but then their supplier got arrested and CEO Kim needed money to go on the run. She tells Jung-sook not to give up on the business if she believes in it.
Then we get a four-year time jump which shows, as always, Jung-sook does indeed find a way. Our undefeatable saleswomen – with sleek new looks – are opening their own adult products store. We leave off on their opening day. They face down the protestors who call their business vile, knowing they’re strong enough to persevere.
I went into this drama expecting funny, but I didn’t expect the level of depth we got with our characters and their struggles. I loved all four of our leading ladies who had great chemistry together and were compelling individually. Jung-sook was undoubtedly the core character, but I’m glad the other women did get their own arcs as well. I feel like Ju-ri was the least developed of the four, and I do wish we’d seen a little more of her life as a single mom running a hair salon. Still, I loved seeing the women support each other and grow in confidence, completely taking the reins of their own lives by the end.
Honestly, I could’ve done without Do-hyun’s parentage mystery altogether. I liked him and his cute romance with Jung-sook – and bonding with Min-ho – but I don’t know that we needed that side quest. I get that having Geum-hee as his biological mother tied it into the main plot, but I didn’t love that development. I liked how different each of the women were and the different paths their lives took. Geum-hee not wanting or raising kids was a nice juxtaposition to the other women who were all mothers. So I was a little disappointed that got flipped later on. Also, while I understand Do-hyun’s curiosity about his birth family (particularly given that he was adopted outside of the country), I do find it odd that everyone kind of acted like his adoptive parents didn’t exist. The drama treated Do-hyun like an orphan although we know he was still in touch with his adoptive parents. It’s like only his biological parent could be real family, which I found uncomfortable. I’m not sure that’s what they were trying to say here, but it came off that way at times.
That said, I did appreciate how Do-hyun and Geum-hee’s story added to the exploration of the ways poverty impacts families. Young-bok’s large family lived in a single room and money was always a stressor, leading Jong-sun to commit crimes. The woman who kidnapped impoverished babies did so because her own child died of curable illness since they couldn’t afford medical care. Then we have Geum-hee who was forced to give her own baby up to procure potentially life-saving medical care for him. It’s horrible to have to worry about whether you can even afford to keep your own child and give them a healthy life. Despite heavy topics like this, the drama never lost its sense of humor and hope. It kept a steady tone and balanced darker realities with levity – not always an easy feat. Thanks to a creative concept, great cast, and strong direction, this was a memorable drama from start to finish.
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1 Kafiyah Bello
November 19, 2024 at 4:12 PM
The ending was pat, but pat in a determined way. The womance was the heart of the show and I am so glad I watched this!!!
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2 jillian
November 19, 2024 at 5:10 PM
I very much liked how each story threads were woven together. I personally liked that our ML was not just there for the sake of having a ML. But his story is very much intertwined with key characters. Yeon Woo Jin is a great actor and want to see him in more projects.
And of course I love the four ladies. I loved that we get to see them grow in their own character arcs through out the show. Jeong Suk is definitely the main heart of the show. Kim So Yeon, Kim Sung Ryung and Kim Sun Young are always amazing. Lee Se Hee is a new find. I have only seen her in the weekender and I really like her here. I will definitely miss this show. I very much like that each character are left in a better place than when we started this show. 💕
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3 Seon-ha
November 19, 2024 at 5:41 PM
For those who may have also had this experience, allow me to be completely honest: I was so disappointed in the final pair of episodes that I truly want my entire 12 hours back.
Beginning with the four YEAR time skip at the end, we were allowed to learn nothing about how Jung-sook actually built her business--knowing full-well that it must have been extremely difficult and used all of her fantastic wiles--but even more amusingly to the point (for a supposedly sex-positive story?) why is it that her potential life partner is still afraid actually buying her products?? Maybe she should practice her pitch a little harder...or something.
The Do-hyun parentage side plot took over the end of the story to the detriment of the women's individual agencies...in a way that made it seem a bit like, "Yeah, yeah empowerment, but what about this guy?" I, like @quirkycase, gather that this was supposed to be mitigated by the fact that Geum-hee was the birth mother he sought, but nah. His tale of woe mainly took tons and tons of time away from learning more about the relationships and personalities I feel so many of us truly cared about...those of the four women.
Where did our story about the four women go?? Frankly, in each case, and in the last two episodes especially, the show ended up being more about how they related to their men than to one another (even the, yes, truly touching storyline where Yeong-bok agonizingly repaired her relationship with Geum-hee...that was about something her husband ripped apart...and her heartfelt plea for forgiveness for something she didn't do was one that Geum-hee's husband convinced his wife to accept!! What?).
I found it incredibly disappointing given the build-up we were given at the beginning.
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Aigoo-ka-choo
November 19, 2024 at 6:53 PM
I hear you with so much of this!
1. The four YEAR time gap was insane to me. I didn't think it was necessary at all from any kind of story perspective. There was nothing they gained from 4 years they couldn't have from 2....
* Especially given all they did was open a store, demonstrating that they had learned nothing ? from the director's previous experience??
* I was convinced that they were going to lean into the mail order thing, after their results with the 'brochures'.
* That way they could have a shop front that was like the olden days of catalogue shopping, where there was one place you could come to check out goods in person.
* You wouldn't need to have everything out on full display, but just have a back section (like video stores used to) with the more obvious 'sex toys'.
Basically the ending of another group of 'moral' vigilantes targeting their business felt very anti-climactic. Presumably the intention was to show they still faced a society that wasn't 'ready' for their business, but I think it could have been achieved in a better way....
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
November 19, 2024 at 7:22 PM
... and they wouldn't have had to dress like 1960s flight attendants.
Good thing the ML brought those magic balloons to their grand opening, though - the ones that rendered the protesters mute and frozen, gazing skyward. The business will be fine as long as the helium budget holds out.
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Aigoo-ka-choo
November 19, 2024 at 8:15 PM
🤣🤣(we need an emoji for spitting your drink out!)
Seriously, what was the director thinking in that scene! It was soooo bad.
Instead of creative problem solving we got...magically calming balloons?? Would have been more believable if she had inhaled some of the helium and talked the protestors down in a disney mouse voice.
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et865
November 19, 2024 at 11:50 PM
All I could think of when the balloons got released into the air were the poor sea animals if any of them mistaken the deflated balloons as food!
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Anonymous
November 20, 2024 at 2:25 AM
Young bok's husband's thing was in the original and was far less about than that you assume. She was completely in his thrall and protective of him even when he was slimy and very irritating like real men are in what they don't want to deal with and begging her to keep quiet so he doesn't get sent to prison using the baby. He had been the driver and didn't call for help all of which nothing to do with anything else in the show since his wife who i still defending doesn't even finish talking before shes goes into labor and the baby coming makes everything okay between friends. Cat Boss by contrast is a dead weight with reasons tied to poverty like all the others as the recap says. Which is the depiction of all the men in the drama they are absolutely useless and their only good point is being madly in love with only the one woman of their lives. Each of the four have ended up with their first and only love is a literal plot point. Even Young Bok's husband knew her since he was a boy calling her nuna and loving only her. Geum Hee's husband is so good the original almost had a heart attack and never loved his wife of thirty years by the extreme contrast. Something is seriously wrong with Kdramas recently. More chapters of the webtoon behind My Sweet Mobster has come out and the 40 year old virgin and prosecutor in love with that one women are a far cry from the original characters. What is wrong with men being normal or how they used to be? Its like the boards demand that all the good men must be made virgins and simps to be feminist.
On the other hand the deleted scenes give credibility since in the deleted scenes the men got a better closed ending than the women. At last they deleted it so ot only focused on the women's achievement of their new business in the end.
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Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
November 20, 2024 at 8:54 AM
Every comment about the original show is irrelevant to the Korean drama we were actually watching and adds nothing to our understanding of it. Anyone who wants to know what happens in the British series can look it up.
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anonymous
November 20, 2024 at 9:38 AM
It does because everything people who will never check it out complain about as if the scriptwriter wrote it wrong is copied from the original without the correct context and the entire problem is they were busy putting minor bandaids on what reviewers complain about in the original forgetting they could have deleted all that. Butchers are not that respectable as a shop profession in Korea so the man became a pharamacist, the lesbian was erased, Joo Ri's brother became her son and the widow was forced to have to have a dead kid too so every woman was a mother. Why keep the criminal instead of making him a poor tenant farmer of gochujang for the factory? That whole plot of Young Bok's husband running someone down and Geum Hee being the mother was copied from the original with fixes to make them palatable. Geum Hee being cold had actual weight behind it but here its all a mess of what is shown. The original were realistic men and women but in Kdramas the same thing is what fans call unforgivable evil red flags. I do complain about how Kdramas have this problem of whitewashing them men- "all the good men must be made virgins and simps to be feminist". Beyond Evil and Good Detective were JTBC so what is with the network now? Almost everything since last year has similar problems in their content. My Sweet Mobster became far more about the men even though the original webtoon and novel is a typical romance with the Fl being the main character and the ML her love interest. Its still ongoing translations if you want to check it out. This one they've made huge cuts of the men being equally relevant in the original on the scriptwriters part which merits mention since people want to only think the Kdrama scene is a issue. They weren't adapting something that was a hit or anything but a show that was cancelled with good reason.
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Ece
November 26, 2024 at 10:46 AM
"is irrelevant"
So would it be for Jeongnyeon? Or any adaptation of popular Taiwanese dramas. Show me this same comment of yours in those drama sections too please? In fact go tell the Korean audience from whining about Jongnyeon by comparing it to the original it ruined the experience.
"If they want to..."
The British drama is rated 7.5 on IMDB and has almost no summaries of the episodes anywhere. Why would anyonewho is a kdrama fan want to waste 6 hours on it? Lets just hear the ones who did. I cannot find the original at all other than gifs. No reviews with summaries. Also only one episode is available in illegal sites and it is not on netflix or other places. Based on that one episode I follow what anonymous is saying. Jeongnyeon erasing the lgbtq characters was in poor taste from the original but what all here was changed? If there was someone who could have made a clear and honest post comparing things that would have been good. Instead its just the usual fights. Why is it is all the same performative comments as on twitter of late? The comment sections and walls used to be full of trivia and interesting links earlier.
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vienibenmio
November 20, 2024 at 8:42 AM
I agree. I want my time back. I could have spent that time watching another drama.
What REALLY gets me is that the time jump didn't bother to explain anything. Namely, how the heck did they get successful enough to open a store if THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY PRODUCTS TO SELL?
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4 Aigoo-ka-choo
November 19, 2024 at 6:41 PM
THE GOOD:
The womance was fabulous, and the empowerment was great. I loved the discussion they had about their relationship as well - 'we share our wounds without judgement' 💖and how that is the basis of their unbreakable friendship. Cheers to that! (raises soju glass) 🥃
In terms of character development, Jung-sook was like a seedling that we watched grow from a little shoot into a magnificent display 🌸and her future MIL was a houseplant that was wilting in a dark corner without the right nutrients, that came back into full bloom.🌷 The other two women, Ju-ri and Young-bok were already pretty comfortable with who they were, so they didn't need to change, but they helped the others on their journeys.
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5 Aigoo-ka-choo
November 19, 2024 at 6:44 PM
THE FRUSTRATING:
One key frustration for me, and I use that word deliberately(!) 😬is the lack of a fulfilling relationship and specifically sexual awakening arc for Jung-sook.
If this weren't a story about a sex-positive business that allows women to embrace their sexuality without shame and validate that they are entitled to sexual pleasure, I would gloss over it as typical k-drama prurience, but in the context of this show, it bugged me. 😡
Why did the romance get so asexual in the end? Why was someone who was growing in all other areas of her life, not also given the opportunity to find true sexual contentment? We know that her sex life with her ex husband was pretty terrible, so she certainly deserved this. 😒
Honestly, I would have been happy to see her getting into using her own vibrating products, if they didn't want to centre it around the ML, 🤣but it felt like a jarring gap to me. Sigh.
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larus
November 20, 2024 at 11:39 AM
I totally agree. It was sad when Jung suk was the only one who did not have a fantasy but I really thought that they writer will allow her to have one towards the end of the drama, especially knowing that they had an unconventional plot in the drama. Never happened. I felt it was a lost oportunity for the heroine to have a sexual awakening arc but instead, it was a typical kdrama romance. The writers can`t or don`t want to write a good romance in kdramas. I don`t know what to think.
I liked the drama very much but this aspenct was frustrating indeed. Too bad.
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ar_arguably romantic
November 20, 2024 at 4:09 PM
I was disappointed that with the 4-year time-jump, Jung-sook and Do-hyun still act like they might as well have been in episode 6. I didn't need to see them kissing or bed scenes, but at least have some allusion to them having taken their relationship to the next level. Have her hint to her gal pals that she finally knows her fantasy.
I also wanted to see Young-bok get a car (I guess a mini-van, given their ever-growing family) so she and her husband can have their car sex fantasy!
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Aigoo-ka-choo
November 20, 2024 at 7:30 PM
@larus @asianromance et al, I agree with all your suggestions!!
This is mine. Beanies set up our own 'Virtuous Business' which offers consults to K-drama productions. 😁
We will read your final ep scripts and tell you what plot threads you've left dangling, what romance beats we need to feel satisfied, etc. to enable a better audience response 😬🤛🤛🤛
Might not make as much money as selling dildos, but we will be delivering a public service that's just as important🤣
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6 hacja
November 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM
I am going to second all of the comments above. Overall, this was a nice portrayal of women’s friendship and introduced me to a wonderful version of a classic Korean pop song. Otherwise, as these last two episodes showed, it was disappointing.
The sex toy business might be “virtuous” because it focused on women’s sexual satisfaction, something as worthy of attention as men’s sexual needs. But the toys’ purpose was the focus only once, when the FL tried one of her products and euphemistic fireworks went off in the sky. Of course, they couldn’t show anything more suggestive, but they could have talked about it without being explicit, saying things like “why should only the man get the fun” or something similar.
Instead, the women might as well have been in the plumbing business. In fact, it might have been good to have them selling hardware or non-bedroom sports equipment, because they still would have encountered sexist hostility, but the show could have actually shown them using their marketing skill. As it is you never got any sense of why customers would want to buy these products, except lingerie to please their husbands.
That, plus all the women in the show were heterosexual, and yet all the men in the show were the least desirable sex partners imaginable—even the male lead had a limp, flaccid personality with all the sex appeal of a wet noodle, if you get what I’m saying. That made this the unsexiest sex toy drama possible.
The main thrust of women’s sexuality became motherhood—exactly the same emphasis of the conservative villains who opposed the “immoral” business. All the FLs were just surrogate mothers to immature male partners. Even the relationship between the less inhibited hairdresser and the pharmacy assistant, had her as his sexual tutor, and then intervening with his real Mom to ensure her son got a photography education.
As for the FL and ML, they were never flirtatious, the ML found her most attractive when she was in Josean era Hancock! She gazed at him sympathetically, not lovingly, guiding him as he worked through his Mommy issues. Its not surprising that their main date was a children’s amusement park, where, like a parent, she took him on rides that he could not handle by himself. It would have been far more interesting to me if a relationship showed her sexual awakening. Instead she became a saintly Mother Superior selling sex toys.
So, even though this show was a remake of a British show, to me it was representative of what’s wrong with Kdrama attitudes toward sex and sexuality, and it was thematically interesting only for that negative reason.
The four women had great chemistry together, and were enjoyable to watch as friends, but another, earlier drama, the Social Avengers Club, had the same thing, yet dealt more seriously with its focus, class issues. I’d recommend that one, instead of this drama, which undermined its own supposed message of female independence and liberation.
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hacja
November 19, 2024 at 7:06 PM
sorry, spell correction did me in with "hanbok"
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Mrs Buckwheat
November 19, 2024 at 9:05 PM
It was a very apt spelling mistake though, on brand for the show that could of been.
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jerrykuvira
November 19, 2024 at 9:40 PM
...Instead she became a saintly Mother Superior selling sex toys.
😂😂😂 Humor me more @hacja.
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Hanna
November 20, 2024 at 12:03 AM
ML had a whole mommy issues thing with FL going which I noted from the start that the woman in his dreams and FL keep intersecting in looks and clothing too.
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vienibenmio
November 20, 2024 at 8:43 AM
Very well said. I was quite disappointed by the reveal of ML's mom. I really was appreciative of the character as positive childfree (even if not by choice) representation
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7 9TailedVixen Loves Hanging Upside Down
November 19, 2024 at 7:02 PM
This drama was good but as a few other Beanies pointed out, there are gaps:
1. I agree with @aig00iness that we should have see Jung-sook's personal sexual revolution as well given the products she is selling.
2. There did not need to be an adoption backstory and link for the ML. Writer-Nim could just as easily had him return to Geumje because he found his grandmother and decided to learn more about his roots. No need to make Geum-he his mom.
However, at the same time, the contrast between Geum-he and Ju-ri's outcomes as single unwed mothers make an interesting commentary on how single mothers and their children were treated and dealt with and the differences in their options according to generation because I take it that since Ju-ri became a mom in the 90s, she had more options than Geum-hi who had her child in the 60s.
3. The show could have done with 1 - 2 more episodes so we can see how Jung-sook and her friends built the business back up from scratch. That would've been very inspiring given what they are up against.
Otherwise, this is still a solid feminist drama for sure.
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8 latebloomer
November 19, 2024 at 7:36 PM
The four-year time skip picked up the ladies at a point where they had no hope of a paycheck - a devastating situation for three of them - and whisked them all the way to sleek success. Suddenly they look like flight attendants with their uniforms, scarves, and hairdos. But how did they get to that point? That would have been the more interesting story.
The time skip also glossed over any development in the FL/ML's relationship. After four years, Do-hyun comes to town and brings balloons. And that's it?
This was a really lame ending to a drama that tried to deal with serious issues in each woman's life, and to focus on the importance of their friendship to all four women. I personally didn't think their only way forward or the best way to show their growth was to open their own store. It would have been great to see them take the skills they had learned and confidence they had gained, and branch out into other meaningful careers that helped Jung-sook, Young-bok, and Ju-ri support their families, and gave Geum-hee a more satisfying life.
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Anonymous
November 20, 2024 at 12:57 AM
That flight attendant look is what the current day sex toy store sellers dress like. They've shown these in movies and dramas earlier and also Kim So Yeon went to a real life store the pictures its similar. Problem is the times they've tried to write about they shouldn't have mixed in real issues at all but gone for a fictional adaptation of what was in Britain as they were doing. Both the adoption scam which is a hot topic this year with the stories that have come out. Reading all of that I am like how do they not understand why their birth rate is so low and even comments in the drama chat talked smack of how children shouldn't be raised by single moms at all since family values suck even after seeing the drama. The mindset is so much worse than my own patriarchal and religious country I'm shocked. Second problem of using reality is the badly hammered in issues real life sex toy industry faces is out of place with that cringe metaphor ending. The adult toy imports were given legal rights from 2008 for less and 2014. Sex dolls are still banned for promoting necrophilia and rpe culture, dakimakuras are criticized for creating NEET pedos and the debate over sex toys being the cause of creating perverts, industry unions putting out protests and notices against fetsih uniforms, and the topic of destroying traditional marriages and lowering birth rates is all a current day issue in news articles of pushbacks the industry faces in Korea. No Gain No Love at least tried better by being open about sex. The first adult toy business opened in 1996 in Korea and they started a mail order and online import business after the store was shut down and owner put in jail. You can look up some news articles about the sex doll that has historical context in brief. Also they wouldn't want to show Japanese business in good light so American is all they can go and we can assume they only made a shop because one man became the head of police and has ties to America and his birth mom, her husband and he are super rich. Imports to this day get impounded and fines imposed despite lack of any laws saying it is illegal based on public sentiment and morality of officials and events or conventions are cancelled. But showing this is a different ballgame than just saying a few words with no context. The bigger disappointment is in the minor changes in characterisations that made the men into caricatures and deleted the sexual awakening of the FL. Kdramas mainly prefer schooltime chastity. The other three have healthy and active sex lives but each of those scenes is played for comedy. Joo Ri wasn't supposed to be a single mom but fighting foster care over her brother. Do Hyeon came to look for his real parents because his adoptive parents had died and he was looking for his roots. Jong Suk needed to show more attachment to the sex toys and have an equal partner otherwise they should have been shown as millionaires due to creating a lingerie store with legal lubricant and...
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Anonymous
November 20, 2024 at 2:01 AM
and condoms on the side. The others who needed sexual awakening was the landlady with cheating husband and those market women. The photographers sister was a lesbian in the original and being forced into a political marriage which she ran off to do business with FL for. JTBC's drama schedule is a mess this year and they were still filming till end of October while the show was airing. Production companies tied up budget, number of episodes and softened the content so much it had to be infantile. The original show was also more about the protagonist's stories than the adult product business so they made any business decisions at all about the sales style of the preinternet era was a big thing. Even though it can look very general. Theres deleted scenes too other than how sad it was the show that was aired censored all the things that were daring while only the OTT kept it. This type of script should have been done by some channel willing to do 19+ content and be able to embrace it without feeling shy and needing to cover things up as compliant to society.
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9 Nirbhay
November 19, 2024 at 7:40 PM
The growth of the women were indeed nicely portrayed. The ending though could have been MUCH better done. It was quite wishy washy. Why robbery committed by the company CEO as a growth impetus for our strong women? Why is Geum-hee suddenly being turned into a mother? What happened to cheating ex-husband and cheating female friend who drove the story in the first few episodes? And really given the title could they not have shown the growth of the business in Geumje and surroundings? I also thought OTP growth more important than Jung-sook facilitating a mother son relationship. As mentioned it was too pat an ending.
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Anonymous
November 20, 2024 at 1:19 AM
Geum Hee was the mother in the original but it stings less because she didn't want to be a independent women, she'd given up after her trauma of being forced by her parents to give up her baby and chosen to have a safe marriage with her kind boss at the time and turn housewife who had wanted to have kids but the husband couldn't. Like Do Hyeon contradicts that Geum Hee took infertility treatment at the hospital. But why? The original has him growing up in the same country and joined the force for no reason, and he had just lost his adoptive parents and found out he was adopted. How Do Hyeon qualified to be a cop in those years in Korea while having American parents is a big mystery. Citizenship rules weren't so simple.
The title is unfortunate since the English translation masks how it is only about the FL. The real title is Jung-sook-han Sales. Which is what they name *their* shop as if the ither three are just tag alongs. In the original Han Jung Sook and Seo Young Bok become dear friends and equal saleswomen despite promotions and educational background with no hierarchies in their relations or business. Both Young Bok and her husband are portrayed as extremely dumb single braincell people who are all the worst tropes of poverty and being only middle school graduates. It was the same with My Sweet Mobster where Jae Soo and Man Ho are that dumb because they were from poor families and couldn't finish compulsory schooling and got into crime instead. Its a common classism trope it seems. In a way they have shown them doing the business but in wrong order. First thing that was wrong was how Ra Mi Ran's business was too unreal and didn't give out any playbooks, instructions, uniforms or ask for kit deposits and promised an impossible salary. The actual bangpan women of the time did the sale of makeup and Jung Suk took her feedback idea from one of those women who began getting independence with jobs they didn't need to qualify for with their housewife background. Another was insurance. The genius protagonist is who built up ALL the sales ideas for the adult product business from scratch from the first to last episodes while Ra Mi Ran had only put all her savings into a fancy store in Seoul and depended on a shady American soldier selling her illegal secondhand imports that were meant for the army base.
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10 Mrs Buckwheat
November 19, 2024 at 8:59 PM
Thank you for the great recaps quirkycase.
Personally the last couple of episodes felt underwhelming, almost like a wet blanket compared to the awesome first half.
The show lost focus on what made it so great, our 4 leading ladies and just got caught up in all this melodrama and noise which simply wasn't needed.
The four ladies were superb and I give them a standing ovation for starring in a tv show which may have been looked upon as somewhat risque and questionable in South Korea.
Overall I'm really glad I watched it and will look forward to their next shows.
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11 loveblossom🌸
November 19, 2024 at 9:42 PM
Hmm, this drama started off stronger than how it ended. Didn't have much humor or fun in the last two episodes. It was more about family moments and wrapping up different stories. Geum Hee's teary acting was so good. Her husband's comforting talk to her was lovely. His life had been complete because he had her. T.T Their relationship was well developed.
I wish the show had came back to the cheating wife and let the husband know the truth and be free from her! I had also expected Jung Sook's ex would come back to cause a ruckus in the last hour before getting kicked to the curb again. He could have been part of the scene with the cheating wife. I'm disappointed that she hasn't been punished.
Noble idiocy, can't live without it, eh? That wasn't a great use of Ju Ri and her story.
The reveal about the Fantasy company closing down was kinda surprising and kinda not. I did have a thought early in the show that the company looked scammy. The effects of the stigma actually being too much seemed realistic.
The 4 year time skip was really unsatisfying! I wondered where Jung Sook got her products. Any locally made? Or from overseas? It would have been better if we could have seen some of the process and struggle of her establishing her own store. Would have been nice to see the past ladies who supported her too. (Guess the butcher was too busy with her second job. XP)
I still liked this drama for the 4 ladies and Jung Sook's noticeable growth. She was a wonderful character that I wanted to root for.
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Mrs Buckwheat
November 19, 2024 at 9:50 PM
Did you also see that Jung sook's son Min-ho is also the ML's younger brother , Min -ho on Brewing Love :)
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loveblossom🌸
November 19, 2024 at 9:53 PM
Hee, yes! But I didn't catch that he has the same name in both places, haha.
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Anonymous
November 20, 2024 at 1:55 AM
Since they've mic dropped real history it can't be domestically manufactured products. Everything would be imports and reliant on the local police siding with them and connections to get things out of customs. Which is fine since the previous chief and the new chief who is the shop president's boyfriend like them. We do see the process its only in the wrong order. They already did everything the business owner should have been doing while they were mere saleswomen. Its unrealistic they didn't go for the postal catalogue sales ultimately and built a store with that chaste uniform from 2015 in 1996.
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12 et865
November 19, 2024 at 11:46 PM
I agree with others that this drama started off strong and ended with a weak and rushed ending. They could have certainly used another 1-2 episodes to wraps things up better instead of just tacking on the 4 year time jump at the end.
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13 Kurama
November 20, 2024 at 12:02 AM
I really liked this drama and the last 2 episodes too.
Jeong-Suk : she started the story as the perfect woman whom patriarchy wants. She knew her husband since she was a kid and never been with another man. She was an introvert focusing on her family. But thanks to her new job, she discovered her own body, her own will and her own strength. She's a determined and smart woman. And the drama showed us that, so I didn't mind to know how they opened the shop.(I'm surprised by I remember when I was young, this kind of shops had to have opaque windows.)
Do-Hyeon : I think his story was important too. First, it let Jeong-Suk to be his hero too. I like how at the end, both helped each other and not just him saving her again and again. His side of the story made us to know the women of the town too.
Geum-Hui : I did like the idea she didn't want kids to live her life as a woman. But her story felt very possible at that time too. Her husband at the end was more opened I thought at the beginning. As a son, it must have been hard to explain to his family that he won't perpetrate his name. But he respected his wife's wishes.
Young-Bok : she was way more understanding with her husband than I would have been in this situation. Yeah, he was cute but he gave her more worries when she needed him.
Ju-Ri : They kinda limited her character to being a free spirit. But she was really a nice touch in this group of women.
All of them together was really the best part of this drama.
This drama addressed a lot of serious themes without being too dark or depressed.
For the adoption, I'm always sad when they use the word "abandon" for the mother. I'm adopted and never saw the situation as an abandon but more a chance to get a better life. And it's always the mother, Do-Hyeon didn't ask about his father, didn't try to find him, etc.
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Anonymous
November 20, 2024 at 1:36 AM
Young Bok literally married her much younger husband while he was an active criminal when she was in her late twenties. Theres a story there we don't know about.
And he was doing crime after she got pregnant again in his late twenties which isn't young foolishness at all. In the original UK series her husband had a job but it payed very less since he was a former criminal in his teenage years and early twenties with his orphanage buddies.
It's said both were born to poor families and neither of them went to high school. The pharmacy giving him a job and them getting those clothes to show how much their financial situation improved in four years with five children is true fiction. He's a career criminal who thinks he can provide for the family more easily that way. Robbers don't think they are going to get caught and his desperation was quite obvious. But instead of being the type to blame others for fate he takes responsibility even if it seems risky for her and the family. At least he's not an alcoholic or a gambling addict regularly hobnobbing with his criminal pals but did one mistake out of weakness. Korean society is too harsh on criminals and families. In reality they should have lived in the village with his mother and not bothered sending their children gor higher education so much and married off so many daughters. Also so odd they had so many daughters and kept them. My Sweet Mobster didn't even go there instead choosing to say only have a family when you clean up your act. Signal had that tragic father.
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14 Minni
November 20, 2024 at 3:29 AM
In my mind that nice husband walks in on FL's douche ex trying to make moves on miss frigid and puts two and two together on his own. The only issue is adultry was punishable by prison time at this time in Korea. Would he really shield the pregnant woman and let the child thats not his own be put into his family register even knowing the truth? Utterly tragic situation for him and that unborn baby. Throw her out without divorce and let her learn how reliable that douche is.
Both My Sweet Mobster and Virtuous Sales had strong starts and weak ends but at least not so bad as I feel satsified having watched it every week because of the actors. I very much regret Miss Night and Day based on its ending on the other hand.
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15 welh
November 20, 2024 at 7:28 AM
Episode 11 had more tear drops than a spring monsoon. The reason given by Geum-Hui was blunt but understandable. She “recklessly” had a child at 29, got married at 39 with the demand for a childless marriage, and at 59 her regrets are expressed to her knowing husband, who in a reverse of the male themes of the show, is respectful, comforting and supportive of her. The writer has reversed the standard k-drama story that a woman needs a strong man to have a good life: Dae-Geun stands up for himself because of Ju-Ri’s strength and belief in him; Jong-Sun’s life and being kind and caring person is a direct result of Young-Bok’s strength and preserving in a tough situation. The 10-year gap from the adoption to Geum-Hui going back to rural Geumje is quite the coincidence to solve Do-Hyuon’s birth secret.
The finale started with Geum-Hui’s short-rifted backstory: an affair with a servant led to her parents kicking her out; she accidentally started the fire; she gave up the baby to her parents US friends (which begs the question whether they were baby brokers or his adoptive parents). Either way, Geum-Hui had the means to trace her child if she really wanted to . . . which she did not do despite decades of regret. Most of the last hour was trying to work thorough the awkwardness which was not very engaging. And speaking of engagements, the dating couples romances went on hold until the last minute of the 4-year time skip when we see them together but ambiguously don’t know their relationship status. Or how Jeong-suk built up her business to open a store (which I think is not it was even in Geumje). By putting the fraud/thief CEO as a feminist martyr did not sit well, as the story circled back to the same protests of their business that was present at the beginning, except this time the ladies are wearing used airline flight attendant uniforms.
I understand that each of the four ladies needed to have a personal event that humbles them, hurts them and sets them up for future success by perseverance. But the ending failed to stick the landing. There are two many open questions on every relationship especially when just before the time skip, all the characters were in deep quicksand. We dislike when a show “tells” us instead of “showing” us what happens, but in this finale, it does neither. Disappointing. The series probably needed two more episodes or less time in side arcs to see how the ladies navigated their losses, balanced their lives, and got back on their feet. The four female leads were strong in acting and their chemistry. Their collective story was a good ride that ended in a non-exciting fashion.
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anon
November 20, 2024 at 7:30 AM
She is 52 and had a child at 22. Her husband is the one who is 58.
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welh
November 20, 2024 at 11:20 AM
I got my ages based on the translation that she said she was turning 60 and detective's research that she married 20 years ago.
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anon
November 21, 2024 at 12:38 AM
The husband's age is the only one given since the beginning in character introduction "58 year old tsundere". His age and detectives age is shown in the hospital and is 58 and 30 which means their real ages in western calendar years is 57 and 29. End of episode 2 detective has both pharmacist and Geum Hee's birth dates are written in his basement and then year is 1992 and the ages are 57(1935) and 52(1940). Detective's adoptive father's name is Michael Schwimmer or Schummer on parcel he received. His grandparents lied to their daughter about sending the baby to an aquaintance and sent it away with a maidservant to be left at an orphanage from where he was given up for adoption in a normal manner as an abandoned baby. The nun's description talked of a woman with regional dialect with ticket to Geumje but Geum Hee doesn't have strong rural dialect but a servant would. How he returned to Korea or became a citizen is never explained.
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16 Minni
November 20, 2024 at 12:37 PM
Also remembered what those balloons at the end were reminding me of. The Kitty Boss did it better. I don't understand the helium balloon scene? I almost thought she was going at them with the scissors for a minute.
I think one of those actors in the crowd is the rice seller's wife who has been against them from the start and ignores them. By now the butcher and hardware store and others should be supporting them like last time.
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17 late as always
November 20, 2024 at 3:26 PM
Boy, I could have done without the fraud story in the last episode. I would much rather have used that time for a more leisurely wrap-up of the various story strands. I wish we had seen Jeong-Suk's ex again, and found out about her neighbors and their story after the wife got pregnant. Did it work out for them?
And I still wish we could have seen the real-estate lady stand up to her husband!
I liked this drama very much--and I liked Do-hyun's adoption story, even though I initially found the idea of him as Geum-hee's son a little hard to swallow--but for me, the ending was too diluted.
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18 ar_arguably romantic
November 20, 2024 at 4:35 PM
This needed to be a 16-episoder. The ending felt like a waiter clearing my plate from under me before I was done eating. Or at least 14 episodes!
This was such a warm and joyful drama for me and I'm so glad I got to see it, but I felt disappointed by the ending. That 4 year time-jump where they just glossed over everything - all the fallout of having their work go unpaid (Young-bok is pregnant with baby #5! Jeong-sook's ex is incapable of child support!) and trying to figure out a way to restart the business from scratch and succeed so well at it that they could open a physical shop. I usually don't mind time-jumps and feel that sometimes we really do need them for the characters to have some breathing room and to develop some perspective, but this one was too "wave a magic wand and voila!" And why are Jeong-sook and Do-hyun still so shy with each other after a 4 year relationship?
Things I liked from the last 2 episodes:
the brochures idea
the resolution of Do-hyun's adoption and the natural awkwardness of the reunion.
Wonbong probably ending up as my fave husband.
Young-bok kicking her husband after he was released. I'm still upset that he almost ruined the family with his idiocy
Juri and Dae-gun being really cute together
All the scenes with Juri's son living in Geum-hee's house.
Jeong-sook being the steely, resilient person she is. I really can believe she could find a way to overcome the odds even though it is unbelievable that 4 ladies can open a lingerie/sexual aids storefront in a small town.
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19 Ece
November 26, 2024 at 11:07 AM
Episodes 1 to 9 were great and then it lost momentum. As expected once they ran out of material to adapt from only 6 episodes and had to rush things due to filming while airing the potential was compromised. It was still better than most. I didn't think I'd find the parts when they have run out of material to show about the business interesting at all but Chief Na and even Agent An are insane emotional actors. The story became childish after that however. The law does not work like that? And if they haven't left their hometown in decades same as that friend why are they confident no one was talking about their family's criminal past? The shopkeeper shouted it out in the streets. Almost everyone knows. I also cannot wrap my head around certain two people being mother and son at all and that age gap looks too small.
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20 Goyangi and the Camel Crickets
November 26, 2024 at 6:45 PM
The beginning of this show was like a bubbly glass of champagne, but fizzed out in the end to a warm flat can of soda. The time skip was completely unnecessary, four years??! Wasn't there mention of a series of fires where children had disappeared? Couldn't he have followed up on that locally? Or did I misunderstand? Their reunion at the store was so bland, as someone mentioned, asexual. Lots of other questions. Did Jeong Suk's former friend find out about his wife cheating on him with her ex, and the likely father of her baby? Why did ex husband/dad completely disappear though living in the same town? Did Young Bok's husband find work? Could he have worked for the pharmacist when he expanded the store? Or would that have stigmatized the store? Baby 5 ok? Jeong Suk's mom disappeared after their heart to heart, I would have liked more of her too. Why did the four of them name their new store after one of them??
For a show about feminism and exploring women's sexuality, Jeong Suk was never shown to have a fulfilling relationship. I imagined a flirty scene circling back with Do Hyun asking her to answer a multiple choice question about what she wanted and him offering the choice she picked. Maybe trying out some of her products. One brief mild kiss was it for her.
I loved the womance and how much they supported one another, the reawakened romance between the older married couple, and the early 90's setting. I did enjoy most of this show and I'm glad I watched it, I was just disappointed in the final episodes.
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21 A
December 8, 2024 at 5:50 PM
I really liked the show until the last 3 eps. I feel like they shoehorned the whole Do Hyun/Geumhee arc... it didn't make sense and didn't align with what we knew of the character for 10 episodes... Having him as a kidnapped baby made more sense plot wise. I would have preferred they used the time they tried to fit the whole "GH was a poor single mom for a while" developing The main couple's relationship and showing us how the girls managed to re-open the business.
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