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What Comes After Love: Episode 4

More sadness and heartache this week as we get another seed of information about the big breakup in the past. There’s clarity around our hero’s intent, and the outcome he’s hoping for in this story, but our heroine still has a lot of soul searching to do.

 
EPISODE 4

Last week we ended with a marriage proposal. Kanna was at Jungo’s hotel room door wrapping him in a hug and hoping to get hitched. But this week we learn two things: she was super drunk at the time, and she and Jungo are not in any kind of relationship. It wasn’t totally clear to me last week what was up with them, but when we see the full scene, she says, “Please come back to me.”

The pain on her face is real when he removes himself from the hug and apologizes. And it looks like it causes him a lot of pain to hurt her so much as well. She’s in love with him. He knows it. And it’s like he just has no idea what to do.

Meanwhile, he wonders why he ran into Hong again. Was it to pick up where they left off? Or to give them closure? We learn that he doesn’t want it to be the end — and in fact, he wrote his novel hoping that she would read it and understand his side of things.

But in this episode, we get to understand Hong’s side of things much better. We already learned that the main reason for their breakup was Hong’s loneliness abroad and her overreliance on Jungo. But now we see he’s not the best boyfriend either.

When Hong was invited to a co-worker’s wedding, she got really excited — since she has so few events to attend in Tokyo. She wants Jungo to go with her, but he’s hesitant. She tries to take care of everything on her own (from understanding the customs to getting the gift), and even agrees to play a song at the wedding with her guitar.

Jungo finally agrees to go, but on the day of the event, he has an interview with a publishing house. They offer him a job, but they’re so short staffed that they need him to start that day. So, Hong sings and plays a love song while thinking of Jungo — and he’s not there to hear it. Worse, he doesn’t even message her to say he’s not coming because he mistakenly thinks he can finish working and still arrive. He can’t. He gets there when the party’s over.

At home, she’s upset and waiting for him and he explains what happened, saying he always wanted to work at that publishing company and he “couldn’t help it.” (Seriously, if there’s any way to get me on her side in a heartbeat, it’s him saying that crap.)

After some arguing back and forth, he says that he told Hong he’d try to go — it was never a definite yes. And she says that he should have just said no if he was going to act like this. Then she leaves the apartment and admits to herself that everlasting love doesn’t exist .

In the present, Jungo cancels his schedule for the day and makes a guess about where Hong might be going for her daily jog. He finds her. She sees him. And she runs right past him like he doesn’t exist.

Both of them are obviously upset by this encounter, but it brings up the question of why Jungo never tried to find her before. We learn that he sent her belongings to her in Korea after she left, which means he’s known where she was all this time. Did he want to be famous first? Or to try to grow up?

When Jungo sent her things from Japan, Hong was conflicted. For one, it meant it was really over between them. But also, she says, “It took me a long time to realize I wasn’t trying to forget Jungo, but the me who loved him.” And so, she tosses all her stuff into a closet and doesn’t look at it for five years. That is, until her sister wants to use her guitar and finds an unread letter tucked inside the case.

We close this week’s episode with Hong just about to open the letter, but in the interim, we see more dreamy flashbacks of our main pair falling in love. We know Jungo has a hard time saying how he feels out loud (that’s why he’s a writer), but he thinks that if your feelings are sincere, the other person will eventually feel them.

Hong knows how he feels, but it would be nice to hear him say I love you, she says. They joke around about it and he says that’s a tough one. But he promises to write a novel about what he feels for her one day. In voiceover, Hong tells us that they only spoke of a bright future together and avoided problems — which ended up snowballing into uncertainty inside them. “We were blind to the harsh realities of the world when we were at the peak of happiness.”

And then we see that Jungo’s novel is called What Comes After Love. While he’s doing a book signing, someone says they’ve had a similar experience to his female protagonist (which is based on Hong) and “It was extremely difficult to overcome borders and cultural differences with only love.” Does he still think that’s possible?

Jungo responds that he didn’t write the novel to send an overarching message. He just had so many memories and so much regret about a certain person that he wanted to write his honest feelings. He says that if that person happens to read the book, he hopes that she understands he was young and inexperienced when they were together. That hope helped him write the novel.

Hong is at his book signing, but she leaves without approaching him. Min-jun, however, goes up to get a copy of the novel signed and asks Jungo if he knows Hong. Jungo affirms, and we have our two male leads staring each other down over a table until next week when we see where this is headed.

Two more episodes to go and it looks like next week will be about reveals. We’ll see what Min-jun already knows (maybe what he learned from the novel) and what Hong is about to find out when she opens that letter.

I’m really torn about the ending I want for this story. Hong and Jungo appear to have grown as people, but the pain has had so much time to fester, it would be really hard to go back or start over. Still, they’ll probably never get over each other either, which brings another kind of pain. It’s a tough one.

 
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I have only one qn. How does she run every morning with her hair down all the time? Sure, it looks photogenic et al, but it would be so bothersome (from personal experience)

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I thought the same thing and I don't even run :)

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Thanks for the recap Dramaddictally :).
I really enjoy the show, the way the mood and tone are reflected visually is nice. 
The meeting in the park where Benny saw but ran straight past Junho was beautifully shot.
 I do wish they had made the time gap smaller (a year or two) before reconnecting.
 Five years is a bit of a stretch to be so hung up on this 'love' when Junho wasn't very communicative or demonstrative as pointed out in this episode and they were only together for such a short time. 
I'm more in love with the two leads who look stunning together. 
Sakaguchi Kentaro has that certain something that you just can't look away from, he is mesmerizing. 
Here is an interview with GQ Korea with eng subs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcmKoQfe_J8
Those dimples are a lethal weapon.

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I agree; five years is too long. From what I read, the novel is longer by two years, for a total of seven years. I hope it's not based on a true story because this is torture.

His looks and acting have a natural quality, but I'm not completely sold yet. I've only seen him in the Japanese version of "Signal." He has a Netflix show called "Sayonara no Tsuzuki," which I plan on watching.

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I was never in the "get back together" team, but now I'm totally against it.

Jungo rant:
Saying that he's bad at communicating is just an excuse. A very lame one.
This guy's real problem is his little to none consideration for other people's feelings. In this case, his girlfriend's.

Why didn't he give Hong a proper answer when she asked about weddings in Japan? He thought that was a dumb question that wasn't worth it of his time? He thought she should do her own research? He really thought weddings are all the same? He just couldn't be bother? What was it?

Let's say he really thought weddings are all the same. Okay. But then when Hong told him that her friend pointed out some differences, he should've said something. He should've tried to help her not embarrass herself or do something rude there. If he took ONE second to think from her perspective, he would've said something.
But he said nothing, and then had the audacity to say "that makes me look bad". Ha. Of course now he knows exactly what to say. Because it involves him. She made him look rude. Yada yada yada. Well, bro. You are.

Not taking your girlfriend's calls or at least calling her back, or sending a catdamn text to let her know you won't go there? You literally ignored her because you couldn't be bother, and then you didn't even apologized?
I hate how he never apologizes. He just gives her some lame excuse. It's like he plans what to say in his way home. He's never wrong, all she needs is to do listen and understand him. Right?

I guess that's the same in the present timeline. He's expecting her to read the book with all his excuses and come back to him. Does he even care if she's happy now? Does he even care if she loves this other guy? It's like he expected her to sit there for five years so they could randomly meet in that airport.
But, Idk, if he really was planning in getting back with her, why was he working on this book with the ex girlfriend that's clinging to him? How is he going to explain that to Hong?

That's just another thing that makes me think he doesn't really care about her.
And like some beanie said (it was Blue, I think), in the past, he didn't even care about her relationships with others or her loneliness.
They said Japanese weddings are only for close friends and relatives, right? But she was invited, so, doesn't that mean they're close? But he didn't seem to know (or care) about it. And he didn't consider that going to the wedding with Hong would be an important gesture to her.

Sigh. Jungo wouldn't tell her how to do things, or even help her do those things but he was ready to criticize her. Dude, I wouldn't be surprised if Hong stopped going anywhere because he would be like "omo, you did that wrong in Japanese". He didn't care to help her adapt there and he wouldn't support the new bonds she created either.

Anyone can talk about weddings and stars. Yada yada yada. But there's more than...

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I guess the title of the show should be "What Comes After Love Isn't Enough".
...And that's assuming what he felt for her was that, and not something else.

His love felt very weak this week.

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Thanks @enriquequierecagar for a really good summary of how Jungo got it desperately wrong here. As others have mentioned, while I might have wanted a reunification at the beginning of the drama, I now just want closure and two people going their separate ways. as you said,

He's expecting her to read the book with all his excuses and come back to him. Does he even care if she's happy now? Does he even care if she loves this other guy?

this is a central issue for me. He's still completely focused on himself and what he wants rather than trying to see anything from her perspective. I appreciate that this feels very real - we can all be as self-absorbed as this - but I'm not keen for the drama to paint this as a strength ("Look at his undying devotion!") rather than the flaw it has proven to be.

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Yes. That's what has been bothering me all this time. That we're supposed to believe this is how love is supposed to be.
"Because they love each other so much everything is understandable".

He doesn't communicate or has any consideration, BUT he loves her, so who cares? Nope. That's not how things work for me. Dude didn't even try once to be better.

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We still don’t know if he wants to get back with her? May be he is just guilty or has some regrets and wants to find closure.
Again, he didn’t come to meet her. He just happened to meet her. So I am not sure what he was doing for 5 years.
It’s a lot of time to move on. Especially for a guy who never picked up her calls. Grrrrr.

I want them both to make peace and move on. That would be my happy ending.
I don’t see how this would work without one of them giving up something. And then the problems will just repeat down the line.

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He did tho? Maybe it was his monologue or after the interview, I don't remember. But I'm pretty sure he wants to get back together.

Even if he doesn't, she already told him that she wants nothing to do with him, and took that as an invitation to go to her neighborhood. Everything he's doing is about himself, and his feelings, and again, no consideration. What if she went running every morning with her fiance? Is guilt a good enough excuse to do any of this? Idk. Not for me.
But it's a kdrama and she doesn't like her fiance, so I'm gonna chill. LMAO

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I enjoyed another of Dongju Jun's poems featured in this episode. It's called "ONE NIGHT I COUNT THE STARS" from his poetry book, Sky Wind and Stars.

For one star, a memory;
for one star, love;
for one star loneliness;
for one star, longing;
for one star, a poem;
for one star, Mother.

Hong doesn't quote the whole poem, only the portion that came to mind while she was lying on his lap, looking up at the stars. They both recite the exact words, but they may relate and interpret them differently.
They may initially have a strong romantic attraction but lack a genuine emotional connection and understanding of each other's needs. It's like being in love with romance instead of each other.

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This is so well said Kiara -"They may initially have a strong romantic attraction but lack a genuine emotional connection and understanding of each other's needs. It's like being in love with romance instead of each other."
I get this vibe from the show, especially after this episode seeing Junho just do his own thing like he wasnt even in a relationship.
I mean who wouldn't send a message to their partner to say they will be late/not able to go to the wedding, it's just common dencency. He can't say he wasn't certain because he loaned the suit from his friend for the wedding.

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I wonder which star each of them would be relating to.

"It's like being in love with romance instead of each other."

This is what I felt when Hong said "I wasn't trying to forget Jungo, but the me who loved him". And that's when the show got 100% more interesting for me. That would explain so much...

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I am very curious about the letter. I think I'd appreciate it more if it was an apology, goodbye, and wish you well letter. Cause if he really wanted her back you got to put in the face time or at least start calling.

I am not excusing him, because I do think hw was a horrible bf from what we have seen, but I do wonder if he just had this idea (not shared with Hong) that his single minded focus on his goals would be to the benefit to both of them. That he was making a good life for them. And honestly at this point of his life if he wanted to be a successful writer then he did need to do the work, it's just Hong deserved some words.

Maybe it's not healthy, idk, but I kind of respect Hong for packing that part of her life away when he didn't come to reconcile. Sending her stuff seemed like a shut door and so she moved on. I just wish we could see her a little happier even if more "mature".
I think with this drama it is one of those times I won't mind if there is not a HEA. I feel like at this moment that I want to trust that Hong will choose what is best for her and I'll support that decision, lol.

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ah, of course there is a pathetically needy ex-girlfriend...
*rolls eyes*

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