If my dad treats me like the way ML treats his daughter, I'll be crazy too.

Two good first episodes. I liked the gloomy atmosphere and the mind games between father and daughter. Both are pretty evenly matched here.
There's a good chance that the daughter isn't the killer, but actually I'd be pleasantly surprised if she was a murderous manipulator after all.
After episode 2 and what we saw about the death of the young son, I can't blame the father for distrusting his daughter.

Been looking for a thriller to watch after BlackOut, this seems to be it. Hubby also liked it so that is a plus.

This setup was very interesting, a little slow with a lot yet to be revealed, and also very dark, both figurative and literally. It would be nice if they could turn the lights on in the house every once and while, especially since from its exterior, its a rather modern suburban type house.

The first two episodes were a good cautionary tale for any parents of sullen teenage daughters. There were times when raising her that I thought a murder could have taken place and my daughter would not say anything to us, just walk straight into the house and shut the door to her room.

After a long head-scratching period of (self) doubt, I finally gave up and google the cast. Where do I know Han Seok-kyu from? Where? Where? Where? I haven't come across any of his films... And then it hits me: Ah yes, Doctor Romantic! (that absolutely unbearable K-drama I tortured myself with for an entire series... I didn't manage seasons 2 and 3)

I should write something on the wall on how much I loathe Doctor Romantic. Not necessarily the acting (except perhaps for Seo Hyun-jin, to which I give the Baeksang of flat acting queen, which she can share with Yoo Yeon-seok who was struggling just as much with his poorly written character) but for the narrative (which I still haven't found), the character depth (which was negative), the depth of medical research (Did they even bother looking up stuff on Naver or did we go into the full I-am-a-writer-and-I-can-create-my-own-rules-including-for-the-medical-field?), and the OTT drama-queening (seriously, you'd think as trained healthcare professionals they'd be somehow vaguely used to medical procedures and emergencies, rather than running around screaming each time someone faints in the hospital; which they do A LOT—Victorian novel level of fainting spells)

Anyway... Lovely to see you again Dr Romantic. I did like his soothing voice (even though they gave him absolutely shitty lines to say) I'll wait a bit before tuning in to Doubt (I'm a serial binge-watcher)

This drama doesn't make sense to me.

He literally accused his 7/8/9 years old daughter of killing her dongsaeng based on NOTHING. He didn't even thought that maybe she had witness something or that she had tried to help her little brother. He just assumed she had killed him because... she was there? No... Because her scarf was there? What?

He didn't saw anything, or had any REAL proof but he was convinced that she was guilty. WTF?

And years later, after her mom commits suicide, the girl has to go back to live with him. And the first thing he does is to think she's a criminal who stoles people's phones, only because she lied to him about school?

Oh my cat. He's teen daughter, who hates him because he is the worst dad ever, lies to him?? How dare she.
Of course that can only mean that she's some serial killer or something. Right?

Her lies aren't even that good. Going to a school trip without her guardian's consent is not a thing. But he just bought that lie like the neglectful parent he is, because he doesn't care about her.

She could be in real trouble and without being able to tell him anything because she knows that he won't believe her.
Even if she's just a witness or being manipulated, he would be like "...sure you aren't the culprit? I think you are. You killed your bro, remember?"

Or she could be pretending to be sus just to piss him off/scare him as revenge. Who knows.

...I guess this is what happens to people who suck at their job but are obsessed with it? He reminds me of the annoying guy in Beyond Evil.

And, another thing that doesn't make sense to me are the detectives.
Pretty sure this isn't their first time working with a profiler, or at least with this particular one, so why do they keep asking stupid questions?
"Why are you doing this or that" "why aren't you doing this or that?" Shouldn't they know by now???

Very stylish and atmospheric show. Really enjoyed the polished production and eerie, immersive vibes of the first two episodes.

The look at the father & daughter relationship was vague. The setup is all about making him suspicious of her. Usually, all the early evidence and views are against the one accused until the near end when they are found innocent. I wonder if the show (or any show but no spoilers plz) will actually make the accused the actual guilty person. Her last lines about her brother and their mother was cold. Or they will work on healing and salvaging the relationship.

I like the short bit of comic relief with the two new hoobaes.

I thought Tae Su would only be working with one new person so I'm glad there's another person with a different personality and viewpoint.

Just watched episode 3 and 4. It got pretty gripping. I don't want to give any spoilers for those who are delayed watching it, but I will say neither the Dad nor the daughter are going to win any sympathy contests. However, it does seem they operate similarly, so like father like daughter, I guess.

I have a few theories on what is going on, but I'll withhold them for a few days to see if anyone else is commenting. If not, I'll comment on a few things, just on my theories, which may or may not be right, so it won't be spoiling anything for anyone, since they are just theories! If anyone else wants to say more, go ahead, as far as I'm concerned.
(I personally just assume these hangouts will have spoilers that I'm fine with, I just don't want to ruin the show for others.)

Is there a normal person in this drama?

The father is failing at his job and as a father.

The daugher thought she was the smartest but she opened the Pandora box.

I wonder how the teacher, the woman and Choi Young-Min are connected. Kim Sung-Hee is playing CYM, it's not a good thing to do. Her son seems to know a lot.

Just caught up and I have sooo many thoughts. First thing that comes to mind is how similar the show is to Perfect Family - two formally rigorous shows about family secrets. But this one understands that for a character-driven thriller to be good, the characters...also have to be good lol. Ha-bin is already more electrifying than the FL in that.

Other thoughts:
- choi young min needs to be locked up. There's no ambiguity there.
- Ha-bin is a grade A troll lol, she has her dad stressed! It's so funny watching Han suk kyu get terrorised by this teenager. But she's totally right abt him being a paranoid weirdo resistant to having open conversations with the women in his life. He cracked Young-min open like a nit, but talk to his kid?? Whyy would he do that?? 👎
- the horror inflections in the direction are very effective. The voyeurism, the peeking through windows, the symmetrical compositions, the abrupt way the camera moves. It's a very layered & rich sensory experience.
- the convo between nice profiler & Han Yeri's profiler was great. He's an idealist about the profession, but she's come to terms with the fact that policing is not the work of "nice" or even necessarily "good" people. It's not charity - it's often not even honest work. She's clearly dogmatic to a fault, but having boundaries in this kind of profession is also important

Thoughts after Episode 3-4:

Still enjoying this drama a lot! I'm just immersed in the episodes and feeling scatterbrained afterward. XD

So it's likely the daughter never killed anyone. Not even Song Min Ah. ...It's possible, but I don't think Ha Bin would go that far. And the big reveal about her mother and her shocked reaction makes it less likely that Ha Bin is murderous. Now the situation is Ha Bin going on a mission to find the truth. Her mother had the picture of both Ha Bin and her friend Lee Su Hyeon on her phone lock screen so this felt a little off. It made me think that Su Hyeon could have been her daughter as well.

I'd like to see the father and daughter open up their communication and speak honestly and work together. Maybe unlikely. Or at least can they not wait until the end to team up? I don't think Tae Su will keep suspecting Ha Bin for much longer if he finds out about what his wife had done and what secrets she kept.

Sucks that Dae Hong got the runaway girl in trouble and was unable to help her. The consequence was realistic though. He learned a harsh lesson. Dae Hong and Eo Jin are extreme opposites, but it would be cool to see a combination of their perspectives and methods in helping the investigation.

I just finished episode 5, again I'll indulge in some major spoilers here.

So the show had me fooled--I thought the guy on the motorcycle was the teacher, but no --he's now a mystery. If he isn't a new character introduced out of nowhere, always a possibility in suspense kdramas, then I'm assuming he's the erstwhile "boyfriend" who helped out with the daughter's alibi, and then gave her the charm for her back pack, which might include a tracking device.

The Lady Macbeth-like imagining of blood on his hands shows the teacher is obviously guilty of something--perhaps the accidental killing of Su-hyeon? But its unclear how he is related to the mother, if at all.

I'm thinking maybe the daughter is on the Autism spectrum, which is why the Dad (and then the Mom) was worried about her and could actually entertain the notion of her killing her brother and then her friend? That makes her circumstances all the more tragic.

Despite the cliffhanger suggestion that the husband encouraged his wife's suicide, I believe that will prove untrue. But he sure messed up his family's (and his own) life that's for sure!

One final thing--the cinematography is very interesting--I can't decide whether its TOO stylized and gimmicky--showing the daughter isolated, at the end of the hallway, or the father isolated in between two lines of an empty parking garage, both in their own "lanes" of alienation. It was effective, but was it too much?

I'd be interested to hear from others, but I'm afraid this is one that doesn't have much interest among DB commentators. I couldn't even find the "hangout" on the main page anymore. Are "they" intentionally trying to kill discussion? As this show reveals, you can't trust anyone--even the Dramabeans editors!

Episode 5 : the daugher had issues, I don't understand why she didn't see a psy to help her to adapt. Her mother did a good job to teach her. It's sad to think the only person who always trusted her finally thought she was a killer too and it caused a chain of events. I wonder what happened between Ha-Bin and her friend to make her run away from Ha-Bin.

The father is still causing more problems than resolving them.

Caught up w/ 5 + 6, & this drama is soo stylish, especially when the action kicks in & the editing moves seamlessly between different perspectives & groups of people. It's meticulous work.

It's become very clear that Ha-bin was just a quiet, serious child (possibly neurodivergent) whose quirks were totally misunderstood by her neurotic dad and towards the end, her mum (who's worn down by grief & nerves). I imagine I too would become cold and intense if my brother died, and my crazy dad blamed me for his death. Chae Won-bin is great at making Ha-bin look like a child in her most vulnerable moments. Its funny/sad that Tae-soo treats his daughter like a ticking time-bomb - meanwhile the father of the likelier suspect fully believes his child's innocence. I don't think it's a coincidence that that child is a son, and also a teacher, clearly considered normal & stable enough to be around children. Profiling clearly has its in-built biases.

Tae-soo - what a prick lol. Ep 6 really has him double down on his unpleasantness, which is the point - being good at catching criminals doesn't make someone a good person. I think Corporal Gu is in the wrong profession, but his commitment to decency, to seeing the humanity in suspects, is very admirable.

And there goes Young-min. Hated his guts, but it's kinda sad how he went out 🫤

Just a quick comment after watching EP 6. There is a cinematic quality with the extra emphasis on the visuals and sounds. The drawn out scenes and particular camera angles. It really built up the tension and suspense. I was caught up in it. The creaking of the door and solitary moments. Gahhh.

Episodes 6-7 = These episodes were riveting! Twists and uncertainty galore!

Jumping in with my thoughts:

Well, I was wrong. There's a new character!

WOW WOW, I thought Sung Hui would surely get caught by Jun Tae's father (Du Cheol). She was finally cracking under pressure by his constant questioning but then the show whipped it around and she STUNNED me with her convincing act. Did she know he was lying when he said he was Min Ah's father? Or did Jun Tae tip her off? = NOPE. It was all her. This was a crazy good scene.

It made me chuckle a little at how easily upset Tae Su looked when Jun Tae brought Ha Bin's name up. However, he still managed not to confirm or deny any info. There was also an interesting camera shot of the window covering this scene that made it look like Jun Tae was behind bars.

So I think Jun Tae & his father dismembered Min Ah's body in the forest - the two different culprits and their traits. (Her body is still missing?)

But who killed Lee Su Hyeon?? ......

I was frustrated with Ha Bin at times, but at least now, Tae Su figured out his daughter's plan. Still! How far is she going?!
At first, I wondered why she got rid of the weapon that was used in Yeong Min's murder. I thought Du Cheol did it. But if she was the one, then she had to get rid of the evidence. It was stupid that Tae Su didn't do a better job of storing it away. No locked drawer or safe. Well later on, the viewers saw Du Cheol's pov and it revealed him being innocent unless that was an imagined scenario. I don't think the show would do that though. That leaves us with Ha Bin being the killer or Jun Tae if he had stayed around.

Jun Tae said he was like his father in regards to being a killer when they spoke about Min Ah. Seems like he tried to lure her into his bed, but she resisted. Or they were lovers and he got angry at her. She came back to the house to pick up her stuff that should have been in the basement. Why was she in the bedroom upstairs with Jun Tae???

There was a single line about one of the girls liking him, but it wasn't revealed who exactly. The kid said it was Min Ah who said this though.

The main conflict going from "is my daughter a murderer?" to "how can I stop my daughter from becoming a murderer?" is honestly soo good! Like that's an interesting direction, & it's contrasts rlly nicely with the equally twisted relationship between the teacher & his father.

Wow, what a ride. Just waiting for episode 10. This show has really lived up to its name - Doubt. As I watch each episode I am doubting each character. I flip flop among the "bad guys", wondering who should I believe?

The first couple episodes were dark (like visually), slow and confusing. But I'm glad I stuck with it. The pacing became so good. I'm biting my nails waiting to find out if the daughter is a murderer or not!! The actress is so good at the psychopath face. The daughter is a better profiler than her dad! But I'm also glad that the rest of the police team is actually competent at investigating.

Excellent whodunit drama!

So he doubted his daughter when she was a child, now the question is about the young boy.

Although I know this show attracted very little interest on DB, it was overall very interesting, so I thought I'd leave a final comment, even though very few will ever read it!

1. The writing is on purpose very "twisty" with a variety of misleads. You aren't not sure of what exactly happened until the last episode. If you like that kind of mystery/suspense, you will like this one. The resolution is relatively convincing--no murderer ex machina brought in as a culprit. The motive is clear, and everything ends satisfyingly, although I can't say necessarily happily!
2. The cinematography is dark and stylized, sometimes too stylized, but interesting. There are few too many shots where the actors are posed, still, standing juxtaposed, as they exchange dialogue for my taste, but it does lead to an interesting geometry at times. Some may like it better than I did.
3. Ultimately, although the movie is of course about trust beyond appearances, to me the main theme was not "doubt" but rather the relationship of parents and children, with the two leads providing the main lesson of the necessity of love and communication between generations.

Since it was so "dark" in tone throughout, and the failure of mainly the Dad, but actually of both parents (actually ALL parents in this drama) was so manifest, I can't help wondering if this is somehow reflective of a current mood in Korean society. I hardly think kdramas are mirror reflections of real life, but certainly this would fit with the other multitude of dark dramas this year, which were haunted by sense of betrayal and a feeling that husbands and families had failed those who depended on them.

Episode 10:

The investigation was really messy. The fact Jang Tae-Soo could work in this investigation until the end didn't make sense. He lied, hide elements and evidences and slowed down the other detectives.

They let Ha-bin out when she was very clear from the beginning she wanted revenge.

The story of Ha-Bin is very sad. Her parents thought she killed her own brother then her best friend. They didn't try to help to blend into society by sending her to a specialist, like they were ashamed of her. She lost a lot of persons and they made her feeling guilty for that.

It's weird how they didn't address the son who pushed a poor girl down the stairs...

Lee Eo-Jin and Gu Dae-Hong's opposite view of their job was really interesting. I wished to see more of them working together.

The esthetics of this drama was really interesting. Sometimes very dark and cold, so the final scene felt very forced 😅