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Cinderella at 2AM: Episodes 3-4

Now that our chaebol prince and his pragmatic Cinderella have ended their relationship, they must navigate the awkwardness of working with their ex. Turns out hiding an office romance is difficult — whether you’re still together or navigating the complexities of a breakup.

 
EPISODES 3-4

We begin this week’s episodes with a flashback to when Joo-won first returned from overseas and infiltrated his family’s company as an undercover chaebol. After being picked up at the airport by his brother, we are treated to some playful, good natured banter between the two heirs. Ahhh… it’s so nice to see a drama depicting healthy sibling relationships, especially between two chaebols who are stereotypically competitors for either their parents’ attention or the CEO position of their family’s company — or both. In this case, though, there’s an obvious affection between Joo-won and Shi-won, who are quite amusing together as they discuss the probability of Joo-won passing for a commoner.

Cut to: Joo-won’s confidence being ripped to shreds by his supervisor, Yoon-seo, as she corrects all his mistakes in his latest assignment. Turns out, this couple had a bit of a one-sided enemies to lovers relationship because Joo-won admits he was not initially a fan of his strict perfectionist of a boss. As he commiserates with Jang-hee and Ye-young, he learns that Yoon-seo was a legendary newbie who speedily climbed through the ranks thanks to her exhausting overachieving work ethic. In comparison, Joo-won, who can’t even work a copier, is humbled by his own inadequacies, and Shi-won is delighted — in a totally smug, big brother kind of way — to see Joo-won’s spirit crushed by the harsh realities of the common office worker’s lifestyle.

Joo-won, however, comes around to liking his job and Yoon-seo after a company dinner. It begins with Yoon-seo overhearing his phone conversation with Shi-won, who asked him to play a round of tennis over the weekend. When Joo-won tells his brother that he wants to quit the sport, Yoon-seo misunderstands and assumes Joo-won plans on handing in his resignation. She encourages him to stay, and even though Joo-won had no intention of leaving, her pep talk he’s still moved by her words. Then, when they rejoin everyone at the table, Yoon-seo steps in as Joo-won’s white knight, and deftly intercepts to receive their boss’s generous soju pours. It was in this moment that Joo-won felt his feelings for Yoon-seo shift and set him on the path to loving her.

In the present, we return to the moment that a drunk Joo-won leans in to kiss Yoon-seo, emboldened by her confession that she still likes him. At the last minute, she blocks his lips and pushes him away, reaffirming that they’ve broken up. Joo-won reacts poorly to the rejection — in a publicly embarrassing, extra cringy yup-he’s-definitely-going-to-have-one-sided-conversations-with-himself-in-the-shower-later-when-he-mentally-repeats-every-humiliating-second-in-his-head kind of way. (Spoiler: He does, and I’ve never related to a K-drama shower scene more in my life.)

Yoon-seo is equally appalled by her confession and the near kiss, although I’d argue she has far fewer reasons to feel humiliated. After all, having a moment of weakness and admitting one’s feelings is nothing compared to Joo-won’s public intoxication that drew the attention of passersby. Regardless, both she and Joo-woon spend the following work day awkwardly dodging each other and avoiding eye contact. (This right here, folks, is why office romances are better left to the fictional characters.)

Obviously, Yoon-seo doesn’t need another complication in her life, but the universe decides to send her a bit of a reality check by way of her younger brother, HA JI-SEOK (Kim Tae-jung), who gets into trouble at school. Although Ji-seok did not actively engage in school bullying, he turned a blind eye when his friends beat his classmate and took his money. Yoon-seo, however, does not see his passiveness as a lack of culpability, so while the mothers of the other bullies try to convince the victim’s mother to drop her complaint with the school, Yoon-seo bows, apologizes, and insists that the school proceed with a disciplinary hearing.

Yoon-seo isn’t mad; she’s disappointed, which Ji-seok — and anyone who’s been in his shoes — knows is worse. Yoon-seo explains that his inaction reminds her of the bystanders who didn’t interfere after witnessing her being abused by their father. If Ji-seok had been scared or too weak to overcome the bullies, she could have understood his passiveness, but he’s big, strong, and fully capable of interceding.

Ji-seok is appropriately ashamed of his behavior, especially after being confronted by the full force of his sister’s disappointment. After all, Yoon-seo was the one who shielded him from their father’s beatings and then took him with her when she was accepted into a university and could live independently from their father. Given their childhood, he knows he should have had more sympathy for the victim and defended him.

Meanwhile, Joo-won has a conversation with Shi-won that helps him realize that his post-breakup pursuit of Yoon-seo selfishly ignores her reasons for ending their relationship. Yes, she still loves him, and while having confirmation of her feelings may seem reason enough to keep wooing her in hopes she’ll eventually agree that love conquers all, it also doesn’t take into consideration her other feelings. Like, unbeknownst to him, her desire to build a happy, loving family to make up for the one she didn’t have while growing up. You know, something she can’t obtain when her potential mother-in-law disapproves of her. Best case scenario, Joo-won choses her at the cost of his relationship with his mother, and Yoon-seo doesn’t want to put him in that position.

And so, independent of one another, Joo-won and Yoon-seo come to the conclusion that their 27 dinners idea was — to put it frankly — dumb. They meet up, and Yoon-seo apologizes for sending him mixed signals and tells him that they should stop dragging out the breakup. Joo-won agrees that they should discontinue their meal meetups, but he asks that they meet one last time to properly end their relationship on a less sad note — which is why he asks her to meet him at a theme park.

Their last date — for a lack of a better word — goes through the same motions of a classically romantic K-drama theme park date, but there’s no disguising the fact there’s a lack of permanence to their actions. They ride the merry-go-round, but take no selfies. They try on headbands, but they don’t buy them. This outing is not about making memories; it’s about saying goodbye to them. And as fireworks shoot up into the sky at the end of the night, Yoon-seo and Joo-won announce the end of their relationship and part ways… until they see each other at work, that is.

Yoon-seo and Joo-won do their best to navigate their post-breakup existence while still orbiting one another in the workplace, but — shocker — it doesn’t go well. For starters, it’s nearly impossible for them to avoid one another while working together on such a small team, making team lunches and carpooling for their overnight work trip awkward for both of them. And when they are backed into situations where they cannot avoid one another, echoes of their previous relationship (like the causal dropping of a nickname and the fact Yoon-seo’s phone syncs with Joo-won’s car) crop up and arouse the suspicions of their coworkers. That’s right, even clueless Jang-hee and Ye-young are SLOWLY picking up on the fact there’s more to Yoon-seo and Joo-won’s relationship.

If that isn’t bad enough, Yoon-seo keeps receiving texts from a wrong number. Because the mysterious painter (played by Lee Hyun-woo) on the other end of the line is going through his heartbreak, his lamentations are another unwelcome reminder of Yoon-seo’s own breakup — and disappointment that the texts weren’t actually from Joo-won. Given how difficult it is for her to get over their relationship while having to see Joo-won every day, Yoon-seo decides it’s best for both her and Joo-won if she quits her job.

After wrapping up a big project, she informally tells Joo-won that she plans on handing in her resignation, and immediately his face falls. Obviously, the part of him that’s still in love with her probably clings to a masochistic desire to keep her near, but he also can’t let her quit a position she’s climbed and clawed her way to get. It would also be a tremendous loss for him and his family’s company to lose her as a colleague. At the same time, though, he can’t deny that their personal history is not beneficial for their work environment.

He seemingly accepts the logic of her argument, but after some thought he drives to his mother’s house where he asks that she send him abroad as she’d originally intended. However, Chairman Kim says it’s too late for that. Shi-won’s wife LEE MI-JIN (Sojin) has returned, and she not only stripped Shi-won of his favorite appliances and freedom to comfortably walk around in his boxer shorts. Mi-jin’s presence also expedites Chairman Kim’s long-term plans for the company and her sons, and she tells Joo-won it’s time for him to take over Shi-won’s position. He pleads with her, begging her to be his mother instead of the chairwoman for once, but she remains silent even though she appears affected by her son’s tearful eyes.

Joo-won storms out, and, unsurprisingly, when we next see him, he’s ringing Yoon-seo’s doorbell. With a determined expression on his face, he tells her that he left his family behind, and she’s the only one he has now. He envelopes her in a hug, and the OST swells as he stoops to bury his head in her shoulder, clearly overcome by his need to be with her again.

In short, a very passionate and pivotal moment for our character — or it would have been had Ji-seok not rounded the corner and caught his sister hugging her “weakling” boyfriend. Right behind him are Jang-hee and Ye-young, but just to make sure that they — in their perpetual state of obliviousness — figure it out, the universe sends in Yoon-seo’s best friend, KIM YI-RAE (Hong Bi-ra), who rounds the corner and excitedly asks, “Are you two back together?” So, yeah, in the span of five seconds, Ji-seok learns Joo-won is a third generation chaebol, and Jang-hee and Ye-young realize that Yoon-seo and Joo-won were once a couple.

Talk about a mood killer, but I, for one, welcome the chaos — if only so the story can put to bed the running gag that Jang-hee and Ye-young are too stupid to figure out that Yoon-seo and Joo-won are an item. Aside from the office secondary characters’ cluelessness, though, the comedy of Cinderella at 2AM has tickled my funny bone, especially any scene involving Shi-won. Admittedly, I was anticipating a little more spunk out of his character when his wife showed up. I was hoping for some verbal sparring similar to what he dishes out while around Joo-won, but instead I just felt bad for him — what with him having to put on pants and say goodbye to his beloved Sebastian and Alberto. Here’s hoping the sparks between them are a little more feisty next week.

And speaking of new characters that were introduced this week: we have Lee Hyun-woo’s mysterious heartbroken painter. I don’t know what to make of him yet, especially since this character is giving off the same sus vibes as his previous role in A Good Day to Be a Dog. Given how heavy the story has gone with the breakup plotline in these last two episodes, a part of me almost wonders if our story could pull the rug out from under us and have Hyun-woo’s character be the surprise endgame for Yoon-seo. But yeah, all signs (and promotional content for this drama) point to Joo-won and Yoon-seo eventually finding a way to make their relationship work.

However, one of the things I enjoy most about this trope-filled rom-com is the fact that it hasn’t entirely lost sight of realism. Yoon-seo, for example, is a well-rounded character whose thought processes and actions follow a logical progression given her history as a victim of domestic violence and as the primary caretaker of her younger brother. It makes sense that she would avoid a relationship with guaranteed obstacles, and make decisions based on an instinct to protect herself and her brother. So what if this story really is about Cinderella saying no to the prince and finding happiness with a man a little less fantastical and more compatible? (I mean, it probably won’t happen, but still… that would be one helluva a twist.)

 
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Thank you for the recap, @Daebakgrits! I wholly appreciate the way Yoon-seo explained to her brother his mistake. I hope it's a lesson the viewers also learned: Indifference also hurts others. I hope Shi-woo learn how to assert himself against the dominance of the women around him - his mother and his wife! They agreed on living separately, so the wife shouldn't have bulldozed her way into his life. Maybe if she at least told him beforehand what would happen, I wouldn't look at Shi-woo's wife as another villain.

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Even though my first impression with this drama was very bad (episodes 1 and 2), it is fair to say that episodes 3 and 4 were way better.
Now this is a drama I can easily watch. It won't be a gem, it is run-of-the-mill, but I can finish it if it keeps being like this week episodes.

I liked to know the backstory of the main couple, because something was missing the first week.

Lee Hyun Woo was a good surprise. I had no idea he was in this show.

The OST is fantastic.

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I am not a music person but the way the tunes are being incorporated in the story is quite nice.

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Is the sad break-up date a thing in Korea or is it a Moon Sang-min thing? Because they also did that in "Wedding Impossible", aka as the "Saddest Sparkler Date".

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I have seen sad break-up (or farewells) dates in other dramas.

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I've had a breakup month with a woman and I live in the US. Because she needed time to process and I felt like I should help her move on.

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Does that actually work? Also, your username is perfect.

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Thank you. I think so. Break ups can be hard on people. Sometimes it takes a while to get all the feelings out before you get closure. I would have loved the courtesy when I was broken up with. I put out what I want in the world.

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It hurts even when you are the person doing the breaking up. I still remember learning that there was a humorous song about my experience, "I've got tears in my ears from lying on my back in my bed while I cry over you." I would have rather had a month of sad romantic dates instead of any breakup. (But that's not a breakup--it's more dating.)

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@toomuchtv I think if you have been with someone everyday for a while and you breakup, you really feel their absence, which you might think means you should get back together. But, it doesn't really have anything to do with why you broke up in the first place.

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And hanging out after breaking up can help you realize that

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Unfortunately, in addition to garden-variety breakups, I've been through a divorce. The first thing that every marriage counselor tells you is to go on regular one-on-one dates. Relationships are based on shared experiences, teaming up to be together. It's hard not to be entertaining and delightful when you're with the other person. Especially if you are Mr. Everything!

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It is an interesting concept as they also have the second lead dream date/goodbye date with the female lead scenes as well. These goodbye dates can happen with the female lead not knowing that is the reason for the day trip, She was pretty comes to mind as an example of that kind of closure date.

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Goong also!

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Moon Sang-min's hair when waking-up continue to have their own story after Wedding Impossible 😄

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I continue to enjoy the exploration of the theme that being attracted to someone, finding them delightful, and becoming comfortable with them may not be all it takes to find lasting happiness. The "Cinderella at 2AM" theme--What might she have thought after she got home after the ball? What doubts would she have about the decisions she was making?--is still here after four episodes, so that's good.

Also, Yoon-seo is one of the best, most caring K-drama mothers I've seen in a while. Her "little" brother really behaved horribly and I fully believed he got the message.

Also, @daebakgrits, my bets are on our mysterious painter playing the role of "Fairy Godmother" in the end, rather than walking off with the girl...🙃

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"my bets are on our mysterious painter playing the role of "Fairy Godmother" in the end, rather than walking off with the girl...🙃"
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Omo! That would be a wonderful idea! I hope you guess right.

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I was worried about the opposite, that he will prove to be the stalker that will highlight to the ML how his badly his pursuit in the face of the FL thoughtful rejections can turn out, especially when seen from the outside. His texts, exactly reminiscent of what the ML would say, and then his persistence in finding out when he made a mistake were a little alarming and didn't seem fairy godmother like. I guess it just depends on how closely they follow the Cinderella template.

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Magic is alarming. Realizing that the world you thought you lived in is not the world you actually inhabit is alarming. Mirroring back your own fears is... I think you get my point 😏

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Unlike that powerful fairy tale allegory the K2, I saw no reference to any Magic Mirror in this one.

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The Snow-White/Cinderella crossover sensation of late Summer 2024 that we didn't know we needed.

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Talk about ‘cringey’. The way Yoo-seo and restaurant friend Yi-rae handled the unwanted text messages has to be an example on how NOT to handle things. If he didn’t have it before (which I am not sure is the case) our painter now has name to go with the Yoo-seo’s telephone number. What happened to ‘block caller’?

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MAGIC. He's MAGIC. He makes people forget what they ought to do. Even when she talks to him on the phone she starts to reveal more about herself than any woman should rightly do in the real world. That was actually my tip-off that there might be something more in this character than meets the eye. He's an artist who creates worlds and who knows just what to say and do to produce an effect....

I mean, I am also happy to have WAY over-thought this. I'm just saying this would be far more interesting than him being a stalker or the third side of a stupid love triangle.

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OK. So going forward will our painter be ‘MAGIC MAN’ (MM)?

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I think he is too handsome to be the fairy godmother. But, that is an interesting thought. I thought it was weird that he had her number and that he knew she was also going through a breakup. I think he might have known her in the past as well. So, maybe he was her classmate way back in high school and he regretted not saving her then and he secretly had a crush on her.

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What are the qualities of a "Fairy Godmother" that mean she can't be hot? (S)he's got magic on his side. The point is for this character to catalyze change.

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I interpreted it as change without romantic interest. I think there will be a romantic component. He is hot and the fastest way to get over a breakup is to start dating someone else, which really sucks IRL.

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Sounds like a way a stereotypical man might actually produce the "Fairy Godmother" effect to me!! 😉

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Are you suggesting he's like "Magic Mike?" (Undoubtedly Channing Tatum's best role)

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Ooo! I like the idea of him being the Fairy Godmother character, too. Having him walk off with the girl would be a fun twist that we rarely see, but I also don't want to suffer through a love triangle. 🤣

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Wouldn't it be a little "Start Up-y" though? Not that many people are watching this, but I could imagine a certain contingent ending up in arms by such a thing? I mean he's more age-appropriate...some may like that...but the main characters are the main characters, and for me the question is, how is our OTP gonna get over the clear social hurdles in the way of their long-term happiness.

For actual Cinderella, it was a nice dress, some really fragile shoes, and a fancy ride. I'd love for our Fairy Godfather to find some equivalences that surprise us.

Meh. Or I want this show to be more think-y than it is. I'll return to over-thinking corner now (but will not stop actually thinking about it 🤣).

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Kdramas have missed with the fairy dust too often for me, so I would settle for having no love triangle, and yet I fear that’s what we’ll get. I’m not placing bets yet on whether Fairy G knows who Yoon-seo is and is targeting her specifically, or doesn’t know but will find out and then think “what the heck, that was a meet-cute, let’s go for it!”

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I was thinking that Mystery Man was a plant by the ML's mother but Fairy Godmother is a good thought.

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Thanks for the recap, @daebakgrits. I also felt the embarrassment of both characters after that scene.

The abuse scene was tough to watch, seeing all those people ignore her situation. But, it felt real to me. And, instead of giving up, she fought to get into school and protect her brother. I wonder if her true motivations in the bullying case is sympathy for the abused or more that she wanted to protect her brother from living an unprincipled life.

Finally, the little clues of their relationship and their coworkers zoomed face one shots gave me Business Proposal vibes. The female coworker has such a mischievous expression. The scene with her happily eating tteok with a bag around her face was so hilarious. RIP Jang-dol.

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Although at times the energy on this one seems a little low, I think that's because it is telling a fundamentally sad story of a breakup based on outside factors from basic emotions, or the fading of passion as realization hits that this cannot work. I also think the story of the brother in his arranged marriage is sad as well. I don't know that this necessarily will have a happy ending in a romantic sense for the main couple, which actually would be an interesting subversion of rom-com tropes.

I always like it when a show uses common tropes but in a slightly different way. I know the last date is itself a trope, but usually the amusement park date is fairly early on in a budding relationship---I can name at least 8-10 shows with that, so to have it as a final date is a good twist. As I mentioned above, I also liked his dawning realization that he really should pull back, indicating that despite being a rich guy who is used to getting his way, he really is respectful of her. (Of course, I don't know what was going on with that in the final scene, except to set up the scenario that now everyone thinks they are dating when in fact they are now broken up, which will add more tensions to the break up.

In a year where there has been a plethora of light romances, there have only been a few standouts just in terms of breaking different ground, and this is one of them so far--but of course we are only 4 episodes in!

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I think this one is leaning heavily on the family-social conventions of marriage too in interesting ways. Our FL wants to make a happy family and knows that this can't work if the larger families-of-origin don't approve. Conversely our 2ML has bowed down completely to the family-controlled arranged marriage and is equally unlikely to find happiness...except, of course, this is a K-drama rom-com! I actually would welcome both of these couples finding different middle grounds between interpersonal happiness and fitting in to the larger, generational needs of the family infrastructure.

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Thanks @daebakgrits for the recap.
OT aside. For some reason in tvN’s UNDER THE QUEEN’S UMBRELLA I don’t recall Moon Sang-min’s height (6’ 3”) being prominent. When I started CA2AM I was shocked to see how tall he is. Anyway, whoever is responsible for his wardrobe is doing an excellent job. He look’s great in suits.

Mom was right to call out Joo-won when he asked for a transfer abroad. It was one of the few times (maybe along with the drunken ‘cringey’ profession of love) he has looked immature.
(On the other hand I wouldn’t have mind if Mom transferred the two former teammates. I find both of them super annoying and doing nothing for the story.)
With Shi-won’s wife back on the scene and the introduction of the mysterious painter I am looking forward to the continuation of the story.

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I really like the concept of this show. I love Shin Hyun-bin's voice and Moon Sang-min's pretty face. I am predisposed to being into it. I'm not though, and I can't figure out why. I wonder whether the actors are much more suited to being serious than funny? It really seems like they are. Their chemistry in the date scenes is low-key and believable--they are a charming, natural seeming couple. They both have these beautiful voices, and he is so great at looking wistful and yearning. But the show has all this kind of broad, dumb humor to it, and they just seem very awkward doing those bits.

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Shin Hyun Bin was lovely in Tell Me That You Love Me.She really suited the melancholy, quiet, tone of that one. Of course, her ML was also mature. Their vibes somehow matched- They were so natural, and they looked great together.
I just can't see her doing the kind of comedy this show has- the scrunched up expressions look a bit off. ML still comes off a bit immature, regardless of whom he's paired with.

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The hanock looked nice. 10/10 would stay, no cap. but, purple... velour... walls in bedroom. Also, mirrored ceiling in bedroom. These chaebols living extravagant. and not in a good way.

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All these comments are making me want to watch this!

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No Gain No Love is a funnier romance than this one and is probably a more riotous live-watch, for my money. If I weren’t already hooked and enjoying myself, I might save this one for later when I could watch all the episodes at my leisure.

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That was exactly my plan, @Seon-ha To wait until all episodes are in 🤗

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Same. And according to the recap what was bothering me the most is gone... I just wish it was a friday show since it's my only k-empty day of the week.

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can't wait to watch. it seems like the plot is getting better. bored with the first ep rush and kinda waiting for a good recap to convince me.

thanks!

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