Oh, wow...the show is this bad, huh? Well, if not "bad," then that uninspiring to only receive a hangout? I guess that puts less pressure on our M-T watches, though!!!

I do look forward to getting to this. I hope it's watchable.

Watching second episode but haven’t finished it yet.
Really??? You touch the dead body and then leave finger prints and run away from there???
Did you not learn anything about not touching a murder scene. You see blood and a body you call cops. It’s as simple as that.

I am starting to think she is being framed intentionally. Could be the husband?

I like the interactions between the main characters. The mystery goes back to the past with a lot of connection between the supporting characters.

So many dramas with strong women with unfaithful husband...

Those of you watching this and intending to continue, please give me some encouragement. I’ve never been a fan of the actress playing the lead role, considered her merely bland and forgettable. But halfway into ep1, here she is just…bad. And what is she doing with her voice?

The few comments here are about how stupid her character is, but is the acting bearable? I really like the rest of the cast (though it’s a little crazy to cast Jung Woongin as Jang Seungjo’s father) and I want to watch this. Please tell me she gets better. Or that her role is diminished.

The last 2 episodes were pretty good. Both the FL and the ML are pretty smart and the plot moves quickly.

I wonder who is the culprit. The 3 clocks showed it's the same culprit and it was intentional.

The husband attracts crazy women, he's weak and let them doing whatever they want. I wonder if he could protect his wife from his own father.

These two episodes (5/6), the show picked up. We pretty much have all the players involved. Everyone is connected.
Finally saw some chemistry between the leads - I liked their break up, tension when meeting again and finally deciding to share information.

Don’t like the psycho therapist. Too weird.

Ok, cheater husband is stressed that his wife may be cheating?? Atleast he is not a pathetic scum. Yes he cheated but it seems there is more to him than that.

Revelation at the end of episode 6 is a double blade sword. I don't like the idea of psychopath characters and therapist is just this. FL is annoying to me.

I watched episode 5 and 6 last night. I am a little unclear on the heroine. I know we are supposed to root for her, but at the same time, its clear that she has always been borderline unethical, and even though the detective is now convinced that because of the timing of the phone call, she wasn't just using him, still, her attitude of "if you don't trust me, then the relationship is over" is really obnoxious.

Clearly, she did not love the detective as much as he loved her; and her true love was her husband, but her continued lying to the detective should result in at least a night in jail, in my opinion. I understand that even though she isn't forgiving her husband, she still doesn't quite want to let the marriage go, but unlike her loyal assistant, I don't understand why she she was so blatant in her lying to the press.

There are aspects about this plot that I like if we are supposed to understand that beyond her panicked lying, she really is a morally grey character--that she's apparently willing to expose everything, but its partly in the name of her ambition, not just truth, especially as she is using a shadowy informant of questionable motives-- and that when it comes to herself, she lies. If there is a scene where she actually admits her hypocrisy, say to the detective, then I'll find her character interesting.

But if it turns out, that somehow we are supposed to excuse everything she did because her larger goal was the truth and exposing the death of her father--forget it, I'll be thinking that this show left a lot uncovered.

Episode 7/8

Oops. No way she is getting out of this!! That was some serious planning to frame her.
Not coming clean is costing her.
Also, finally the detective and journalist found trust and it’s all broken now??
It’s starting to look like there are two separate murderers? May be psycho doc did kill the actor and framed FL.

The tension when the three of them are together is quite intense. I don’t know why both these men want her 😅

Random Thought
I think husband and detective have chemistry together that would make for some interesting bromance and it can be played in a comedic sense to balance the dark vibes

As I said above, after watching 7-8, I'm not thrilled with the female lead. There's the problem of her using "zeus" as an informant so extensively, when she knows nothing about him--so that has come back to bite her.

As far as her relationships, I agree with @mayhemf and @kdrama-bunny--its unclear why she's inspired so much devotion. For the policeman--the explanation for her not denying her role in setting up his partner was she resented his accusations. While the resentment over the lack of trust is understandable, she could have understood that his partner, who had also just betrayed him with corruption, had warned him against her as he was dying. Anyone would be shaken by that combination of circumstances. The revelation that the detective and FL were so much in love that they were talking marriage makes it absurd that she'd just walk away not saying anything because of her resentment. If you deeply loved someone wouldn't you tearfully deny, explain, and then say how hurt you were? The explanation to her friend that she keeps things bottled up does not make sense in this extreme a relationship situation!

Its more understandable that she'd try to cover up in a panicked way that she abandoned the murdered woman, especially if the woman was still alive. But surely, as a journalist, she'd know that the place would likely have cameras, and as painful as it was, she'd have to come clean to the detective rather than denying it twice. He at least would treat her explanation of how she came to the apartment seriously. But she didn't explain, and now she's in a pickle, that as a viewer, I can't be too sympathetic with.

The other character who bothers me is the husband. I can see why he's devoted to her, because he feels that she saved him temporarily from addiction. But if he was so attached to her, why did he have an affair, especially with the "I love you" said on tape to his mistress? Plus he hid his addiction as well, even when he relapsed. Why does he think that he still has a claim to her affection? And why doesn't his wife occasionally throw his lying back into his face when he plays the victim card? I've said to the t.v. screen about 6 times when he's wheedling and guilt-tripping his wife-- "you said you loved your mistress, you jerk!"

The mystery is fine, if somewhat formulaic. I'm looking forward to learning how the murders are tied to the factory fire via the political leader. But the writing of the central love triangle leads a lot to be desired.

Ep 9/10
Ok, that therapist is some serious cray psycho. She was quite creepy when she casually came to his house to take a bath. How is that he hasn’t changed the passcode!!
What is this obsession of love for so many years. Anyway, looks like we had some logical conclusion to this case. The FL’s arrest and her acceptance of her mistake was well done.

So assemblyman had a backup plan in case his daughter gets caught!!! so is going after him going to be the next 6 episodes?

And now the FL is in trouble again. Can we please see her strengths rather than seeing her being saved by two men constantly??

The mystery part of this show took the turn signaled last week of making the maniacally obsessed psychiatrist the bisexual Svengali of the lesbian daughter of the presidential candidate. Not sure how I feel about that, though I try not to get too wrought up about the representativeness of kdrama characters, especially in shows like this one. But I guess it did provide a twist on the utterly corrupt political candidate as the sole villain. I’m sure it will turn out that he exploited the psychiatrist’s obsession to get what he wanted in murderous ways.

Not to be too obsessive myself, but it says something about the way the female lead is written or being acted that when she was arrested, I kind of felt she got what was coming to her. She just is not that likeable a lead, but again, maybe that’s on purpose. However, I also don’t like the way the husband, being played in a somewhat wild-eyed fashion, is more and more being made out like a victim in the show. We are clearly supposed to be sympathetic to him, as an adulterer who told his mistress that he loved her, and then clung to his wife because he was exposed. Regardless of the larger evil forces at work, it WAS his fault, as he finally admitted, that things played out as they did, especially with what I hope will soon be his ex-wife.

As for the detective, I can see getting him secretly getting the photos checked out first for authenticity, but not then continuing conceal them. Just like the female lead lying about seeing the murdered girl, or course he’s going to know that there are more than one copy of them, that the psychiatrist is going to expose. I don’t know which is more implausible, his actions or him getting reinstated immediately because he knew the real murderer would reveal himself.

Although there are still 6 episodes (gah!) to go, I still see the female lead going her own way, leaving the two men behind. The love triangle has left me unmoved, though again I’ll stick around to see the mystery uncovered.

Ep 11/12

What!! I was wondering what was left after last week and I was just expecting going after politician. But this turned out to be more!!
And that pregnancy. Did NOT see that coming!! Poor detective!!
We are back to a relationship triangle.

Now that the psycho therapist is dead the show felt much better this week. I really like how all the events are connecting in a very unpredictable way. Woo Jae actually ended up killing his gf! No wonder he was messed up. That explains his depression, drug problems etc. and why the therapist had him on the hook.

I think Woo Jae is not going to be the killer. I hope not. I wonder if the Secretary Ahjushi (friend of detective) is related to or is the murderer.

Hum... The FL made weird choices. She thinks her husband is maybe a killer and she stayed with him? She knows that stress is not good for pregnancy especially since she is no longer young anymore...

Honestly, keeping the baby was already a big choice but she should have chosen between the baby and the truth because of them together put her and the baby at risk.

She didn't have to stay with the husband. The baby doesn't need a murder as father, neither a cheater, drug addict, weak man who can't say no to the past women of his life.

She hurt the one of the only person she can count on, it was stupid.

I keep checking in on this because you two are hanging in there, @mayhemf and @kurama, and I cannot BELIEVE what I see each time!!!

That said, I sort of can keep up with the plot through bi-weekly skim-watches, so it's probably not a show for the ages, no matter how delightfully torn between two mature, attractive, flawed men our mature, attractive, flawed FL is.

PS: Is it OK to stay with your husband if he didn't commit ALL the murders, just some of them? Asking for a pregnant friend...

Ep 13/14

I wasn’t surprised by the reveal as I had already guessed. But it was still hard to see Tae Ho having to process it.

Why did they have to kill Zeus. Poor guy. Did they have to kill off both the siblings???

I felt bad for Woo Jae. And I have this terrible feeling that he won’t stay alive when the show ends. He is weak and is getting pathetic and miserable. He was never a strong person and I worry for him.
And it’s really sad that his dad piled on so much crap and guilt in the name of protecting his son. If only he had faced the law after the accident, he might have gotten a milder sentence as he probably was a juvenile and it was truly an accident on a snowy night.
Instead his father went around killing people to protect his son. And now he knows his father killed his wife’s father. This is so messed up.

FL went back to the house. lol. She really loves entering every murderers den, doesn’t she??

Overall, the investigation and reveals were pretty clean and well done. Now we know all that happened in the past. The challenge is HOW will the detective prove any of this?? He has to prove multiple murders.

I’ve caught up now to episode 14 now and even though I also anticipated some of the developments, I still kind of like the mystery and the general set up. The psychiatrist was a little over the top, but at least she added a twist beyond the usual pure political corruption and a wealthy coverup. Her role in a way, fit in with the overall theme of betrayal and dark family secrets. And killing her off when the show did also made sense, to get to the heart of the mystery. In the portrayal of corruption, there were scenes I really enjoyed, like the confrontation between the two villainous Dads in episode 13, trying to one up each other on the amount of incriminating information they knew about each other. I’m sure there will be a twist or two left, which might be implausible, but up to the last two episodes this show wasn’t too badly plotted, so it hasn't been a bad watch in those terms.

As far as the ménage à trois, this too wasn’t bad in concept—but repeating myself (as always)

1. I still find the FL pretty unsympathetic. I was surprised by the pregnancy, but also a little annoyed by it, because while it worked as a plot device to force the FL to care more about what the story was with her husband, it should have horrified her even more, because he impregnated her at the same time he was telling his mistress he loved her, (and possibly making the mistress pregnant as well, although I know the DNA test showed another father, still should the FL trust that?) And you knew abortion was out of the question, because it was relatively late in the first term of the pregnancy, and because it was a kdrama (I’ve never yet seen a kdrama where the woman decides to get an abortion.) What would have been interesting, is if she had also slept with the detective, and so wasn’t sure about who the father was. She didn’t, and so the pregnancy seems yet another undeserved calamity. Still, why should we care? As @kurama points out, every choice she has made so far in the show has been bad, and she seems relatively unperturbed about it. Of course, she seems relatively unperturbed about everything.

2. Unlike @mayhemf I have very little sympathy for the husband, although he is not a villainous. But he still is morally culpable, and he should have just fessed up and took his medicine long ago. (If he was too young and distraught, he could have waited until the one development was completed, and then told the world. The evil Dad would still have had people killed, but the business interests would have survived, and the later murders wouldn’t have occurred. Of course, there goes the show if that happened!
Anyway, As far his attitude toward his wife—he should not be proclaiming, in self-pitying anguish “I should never have loved you” No, you idiot, you should never have said you loved a mistress who you took after only 3 years of marriage. When he said he’d become more shameless for his child, I thought—how he could become more cowardly and shameless? The way he celebrated the baby as his really offends me, since its mainly so he can further entrap his wife. I’m not cutting him any slack!

3. Detective Tae Heon is generally pretty blameless in this one, since it was clear that he would have gladly accepted the FL back if she had just explained the circumstances of his partner’s death, but instead she broke his heart by marrying a jerk with an evil murdering Dad. While its true, the Detective got his hopes up too much and caused the FL difficulty during her time of crisis, but I can't criticize him for that, except...maybe the relationship isn't worth the trouble. So now its time to move on. although of course he could be killed before that happens.

I still would not be surprised if the FL and her child end up alone at the end—either because she leaves both men, or maybe with both men dying.

There a couple of more thoughts I had about this one, although maybe I should wait until I watch the last two episodes. As with many contemporary kdramas, there is in this show a strong argument against marriage for women. In fact there is a strong argument for women not to get involved with any men at all. And yet Korea needs babies. Artificial insemination doesn’t seem to be the answer, since it would place upon heterosexual young women the responsibilities of single motherhood. What to do? Fortunately, the answer is being provided by another ongoing kdrama, Blood Free. Using advanced technology, Korea could grow super babies in culture! I'm looking forward to a sci-fi show depicting this future: Sperm Free!

Alternatively, I was thinking of another sequel--if they skipped ahead about 30 years, and focused on the son raised by the FL, this time they could do a healing rom-com, when the son falls in love with a woman whose Mother’s Grandmother-in-Law killed her Mother’s Mom. They both conceal their mirrored family traumas, and they both become successful—one a journalist, the other a lawyer. The show would open when they are talked by more daring friends into vacationing in a “clothing optional” tropical resort (needless to say, all bodies would be blurred in these scenes.) They meet cute when they literally stumble into each others arms, naked, and flee in embarrassment. But then they are horrified 2 months later back in Seoul when they find themselves meeting as courtroom antagonists. The title of this one would be “Nothing Uncovered Part 2: Nothing Covered.”

I still think the FL could find the truth without getting involved with her husband's family, living with her husband and his father? I really wonder why she thinks her father-in-law won't kill her...

Woo-Jae is such a coward, he knows very well everything is wrong, but he still can't do anything about it.

For the episodes, I was the most invested in Tae-Heon, discovering that his mentor was a killer was sad. He had such a respect and love for him.

I don't feel bad for Jung-Won's father... He did nothing to save Lee Na-Ri. He could stop Woo-Jae and forced him to bring her to a hospital. But instead he blackmailed Woo-Jae's father. Poor girl.

The finale was as uneven as the drama throughout, but good enough. I have a bean, but there is unlikely going to be a re-watch.

The best part for me was the difference in parenting between Seol Woo-jae and his own father. The father covered up the failures of his son, this made the son a criminal and triggered the terrible events afterwards. Woo-jae, after many struggles, finally took responsibility and accepted punishment. His reward was that he was allowed to meet his daughter as a father.

Jang Seung-jo is good at playing such grey characters and he also had the best lines in the drama, he made it watchable. Detective Kim Tae-hoon was a nice counterpart, but his main role, other than riling up Woo-jae, was to be there for the FL and rescue her from the many sticky situation she got herself into.

The weakest link was the FL, both in how her character was written and played. The 3 year time skip was ridiculous, but I liked that she and the detective got together in the end.