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Sweet Home 2: Episodes 1-8 (Drama Hangout)

Welcome to the Drama Hangout for Netflix’s sequel Sweet Home 2, sending our found family of survivors into a whole new realm of blood, gore, and mayhem.

This is your place to binge and chat about the drama as it airs.

Beware of spoilers! This thread is for discussing the entire series.

 
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I'm not watching Sweet Home 2 as the genre is not my cuppa tea. I just wanna ask, in which episode (and which at minute) does the actor Huh Nam-Jun appear? According to wiki, his character is Kang Seok-Chan. Thanks in advance!

For those who watch Matchmakers, the actor is Lieutenant Jung in there. I'm just curious to see him in non-sageuk attire...! 😊

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Actor Huh Nam-Jun first appeared around the 20min mark in ep1

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@aicaramba
Thank you! I checked it out, and I still can't see him, lol! Is he one of the gunmen? Anyway it's ok, I'll check out his other dramas when I have the time.

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Yes he is one of the gunmen. You will not be able to recognize him immediately in camo bcoz same happened to me. But he would mostly be with Kim Mu Yeol.

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@jillian
Thanks for the info!

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He is a cutie pie. :)

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He actually appeared through the whole season. He is the one and only new character that matters for me.

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@Wise
Thanks for this info, which tempted me to check out all the episodes! Which I did, with lots of fast forwarding! Saw him smoking in Ep 4 around 11th min, and shirtless in Ep 5 around 39th min 🤭

It feels like Lieutenant Jung has time travelled to a different era, lol! 😁

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I just finished the first ep and wow! I'm going to try not leave 34398439 comments for every single ep but I had a lot of thoughts buzzing after just ep one so felt like I had to comment before continuing the show!

- I feel a lot like Yi-kyung when she was coming out of the bunker at the and blinking hard to adjust to all the sudden light. After spending so long in a confined dark, dimly lit space, it feels very 🤯 trying to get used to the new setting. I guess in that sense, this seems to be very much following the usual arc for dystopian trilogies where the second step is to move from the little box to the bigger box and have the protagonists have their values/beliefs put to the test whilst clashing with some kind of government authority. So although I'm very much already missing the green apartment complex (and its flawed makeshift family unit), this does feel like the next logical narrative step and I'm prepared for the likely onslaught of political/ideological fighting/set up for final fight that's going to happen now because it's not as simple as human v monster anymore.

- I appreciate the layers being set up already to potentially deep dive into the question of what it means to be a human and the distinction between human/monster. Yay for the military having a bit more complexity and ambiguity now that they're part of the narrative, because it's no fun if it they're just a monolith 'bad guy' (that nuance on the human side of things was one of the best bits about season one, so I'm glad we're expanding that to include a whole bunch of different players in this game too now).

- I had so many questions about the ending of season one, but literally felt like an idiot for not realising as quick as Hyun-su did because DUH who else could it have been! I hate Ui-myeong but he makes half a valid point here and there and more importantly it means we can still technically 'see' Sang-wook. I much prefer this version of him however who's stuck and also hasn't maybe gotten rid of the host entirely (I really hope Sang-wook is alive fr in there and will emerge the dominant 'soul' or whatever soon).

- Speaking of Hyun-su - wow he's grown. Like he talks full sentences now and isn't the shy timid boy anymore?? He was always on that character journey but I guess I just realised it now since he's actually talking. Also like this dude has gone through so much already in the first ep, my body literally starts aching in sympathy watching because he's just literally not been able to catch a break at all. Like yes he regenerates but it must hurt like absolute death each time right?

- Was interested to see where they'd pick up from, and I'm glad they did just pick up from where they left last season because else it might've felt disjointed but I'm also very surprised at how it flows pretty seamlessly despite the gap in production? I think they finished filming season one in early 2020 and then started filming...

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season two in early 2022 so that's a considerable gap but aside from some really teensy tiny veeery small differences in how people look, it's largely unnoticeable which is cool!

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Yes you are correct. The gap was hardly noticeable for the adult characters. Only the kids, SY and YS, visibly grown a couple years when it supposedly only happened a day in the timeline of the story.

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Right? Pretty good all in all, easier way out would've been to do a time skip and info dump on what we'd missed but YAY for effort to not do that!

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Yes I liked that there was actual continuation to how it ended in S1. Have you watched all episodes of S2?

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@jillian not quite yet! I'm midway through ep 3 right now so almost at the half way point!

Have you finished all the eps?

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Almost done. Just 1 more to go.

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Also the mum and baby monster!!! I was tearing up at those scenes, I can't believe no one noticed that the mum monster wasn't attacking anyone 😭 ironic that the soldiers killed more people trying to kill the 'monster', glad the general dude picked up on that fact.

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right! they set a bunch of people on fire, sheesh
sad for that monster :(

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So, in my typical greedy fashion, I powered through all of season 2. I am not going to talk about the storyline except to say that it is easy to miss things and sometimes things aren't apparent. I found it to be a pretty darned satisfying watch, but now the looong wait for season 3.

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GUYZ did anyone see what happened to Pom the Dog? LOL He ran off in the tunnel when the "mom" monster showed up and I'm agonizing about leaving him behind! at the 22:00 mark.

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Finished S2 last night. DANG! That last minute!!! GAHAAHAH
So many naked butts! LOL And dang, the boys have really bulked up! They weren't that muscular in S1.
Sad that most of S1 chars are gone (including the ajumma with the dog Pom, who got lost, booo).
Not liking the new monsters AT ALL! They almost seem like Transformers or mech but human? Nope, don't like. The ones running after the soldiers all looked like robotic dogs! WTF
The sacs/giant eggs is very reminiscent of *Alien*. I'm curious but at the sme time IDK if I like it.
Anyways, how long till S3 drops? LOL

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Summer 2024, so not too long! Just a few months!!

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Disclaimer: this is coming from the girl who LOVED (like capital, bolded, font size 100 ‘L’) the Star Wars prequels because of the focus on politics, debate/discussion/‘talking’, and the setting up of metaphorical chess pieces - which happened to be also some of the biggest criticisms that series got from people. So in a similar vein, whilst I do understand those that aren’t enamoured with this season, this isn’t me trying to invalidate those opinions, but just so happens that a lot of the issues people did point out ended up being the very reason I liked it so much - and this is just a ramble on that!

I also did watch this right on the back of finishing a season 1 rewatch, so I do wonder if my opinions would’ve changed in any way had I maintained the significant gap between S1 and S2.

World Building & Characters

So straight off the bat, I liked that we had a whole new and expanded world to navigate. The top has been blown off the ‘home’ - both in the metaphorical and literal sense - and both characters and viewers are thrust into a whole new world, with a whole host of new players. It put a fresh and interesting spin on things, which in retrospect also keeps season 1 feeling unique and fresh. We technically had two ‘worlds’ thanks to the time skip - it felt like just as we were trying to adjust our eyes to seeing what had been going on/what is going on outside of the villa the entire time, we then jumped to almost a year ahead to a world rebuilding itself not just from the monsterisation outbreak but also the complete collapse of a ‘central authoritative body’ that also tried to blow everyone up. Bit of a best of both world situation in my eyes, because I was initially expecting for us to spend the entire season with the military/government/research facility projected as the ‘bad guy’ monolith and the ‘good guy’s being the small rebel group forming but was pleasantly surprised when we had all of that blown up - quite literally - to make way for a narrative that was much more complex than good vs evil.

New expanded territory comes with new people, and it takes time to not only introduce these new characters but build audience investment in them. So whilst there was a lot of ‘slow’ moments, and plot time was split between several groups of people, I appreciated this because by the end I had considerable investment - both negative and positive - in almost all of the new characters shown. Yes it was sad that many of the OG group were killed off, but imo the story wouldn’t hit the same if ALL the people we knew kept surviving against all odds - after all, much of the first season had characters built up for the audience to become deeply invested in only for them to be brutally killed off, sometimes in the most avoidable ways that made you go ‘they survived ALL of that only to die like this?!!?’ but that’s the nature of this world and story and it’s been consistent through this season. With the gang that is left though,...

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Eun-yu & Yeong-su have gone through significant character development - EY has matured in many aspects but hasn’t lost the more soft & sensitive side to her that she keeps buried under all the hard armour and Yeong-su has understandably become jaded, rebellious sullen considering all the trauma he’s gone through at a young age (he’s going through his S1 Eun-yu era).

On the complexity of the new characters - after finishing all the episodes, I don’t think I can confidently point to any one person as the ‘bad guy’. Each person had their own logic and perspective that explained the choices they were making, and there were some that kept oscillating between ‘good’ and ‘bad’ territory in the most interesting ways with their choices. For example, the mad doctor doesn’t seem like he’s out for world domination, but he’s not exactly acting as a saviour for humanity either, and General Tak is equally confusing because his motivations seem unclear, so he seems both selfless and selfish in different circumstances. The characters in this show can be annoying, frustrating and incredibly selfish, but never in ways or to an extent that makes you want to label them as ‘evil’, rather it just highlights that they’re all just very human .

Hyun-su & Chan-yeong I think are the two characters who holistically represent a ‘hope’ for humanity however. Hyun-su has been through SO much and he still comes out with a compassionate and sympathetic perspective, and in a similar vein Chan-yeong’s empathetic principles are unshakeable no matter how much hate he cops for it and he’s also willing to change his perspective when he sees that he’s been misguided or that his logic is flawed - like when he was willing to accept what Hyun-su said about monsterisation, despite knowing the guy for like less than a day.

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Themes

The central thrust of this show has I think always been around the question of what it means to be human, so although this season is different to the first in so many aspects, the core ‘theme’ remained the same. So on that front,I liked that the monsters in their ‘zombie baddie’ era were pushed to the background, and instead it focused on furthering discourse on the ways in which humans try to survive & reckon with the fact that they are no longer at the top of the food chain, and the question of how the world is going to move forward in the aftermath of this apocalypse-type epidemic/disaster where both humans and monsters exist. My favourite part about the disaster/apocalypse genre is seeing how humans cope with a complete breakdown of societal structures/frameworks and norms, and the question of whether this idea of ‘humanity’ is a construct or if it’s what inherently defines us as being us. This exploration of the thin line that separates human from monster coming to the forefront of the narrative this season, in more complex ways, won a big green tick from me.

On the collapse of ‘society’ though it was really interesting how everyone still fell back into similar rhythms, of having a ‘leader’ and organised roles in their ‘new society’. Most interesting were the Crow Platoon who were held together by ideas of loyalty & camaraderie, and falling into old ranks and patterns, despite the military as an institution being destroyed already. Idk I just thought it was fascinating how people were being held together by intangible concepts - concepts that are human constructs too. I’m not sure how to articular exactly what I’m thinking here - but like what’s stopping the Platoon from being like ‘nope everyone for themselves’ or for one of the stadium civilians to be like ‘screw you and your rules’? Mutual dependance? Maybe but it’s incredible people are rational enough to recognise that despite the absolute chaos going on. I guess there’s an element of responsibility & fear playing into that too but again, those are like ‘invisible’ tethers, and it’s fascinating how we construct entire societies based on these invisible lines.

The most interesting thing for me as a viewer though was also how the show seemed to function as a mirror for me - so many instances where my split-second reaction to things was something a long the lines of why are they even bothering??? It’s just collateral, you can’t waste time/there’s a bigger picture here/survival of the group over individuals etc , which made me reflect on how easy it is to criticise people as being selfish, when I’d maybe make the same choices in a similar position. It also highlighted to me that I’d drawn a line unconsciously between ‘us’ and ‘them’ - ‘us’ were the characters I’d gotten to know, the ones that I had emotional investment in, and ‘them’ were the characters who were new strangers to me. It was much easier to see ‘them’ as a liability or to be like...

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‘why bother’ but when it came to anyone in the ‘us’ category each death or injury hit harder and I felt more empathetic for them when they were in life-threatening spots. And it was no different for the characters themselves - the group in the stadium had their own ‘us/them’ circles, not to mention the bigger ‘us/them’ debate with humans and monsters, and also the ‘us/them’ circles that were drawn between the humans in the stadium and the ones outside.

Another concept that was briefly brought up that I thought was interesting was this idea of ‘monster or neohuman’ - that monsterisation was the the next stage in evolution’ which was at direct odds with the idea that a lot of the human characters had of monsters being ‘primal, non-human’ and there for ‘beneath’ them.

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I have also grown to enjoy apocalyptic films and series because the current humanity I find is stuck and shifting responsibility to be creative and evolve to machines losing the original instincts and exitement in problem solving. we are all about "I wish someone did that for me" instead of rejoicing for the opportunity to moprh the world into your liking, to make decision and to try to improve. it doesnt mean destruction of everything, you can be creative by combining the existing knoledge and breaking down useless, ineffective patterns but sometimes you cannot get people to be creative in any other way except leave them with nothing at all. when it comes to monsters, I think people who try to be different can feel like monsters because they are going against the mainstream and it can feel like they are hurting others by being themselves. but it is just, seeing someones choose their own path attacks the protective shell most people have built around themselves against evolution and creativity, and freedom. so I also see monsters as a metaphor of trying to change the flow and guide humanity to a different course, but having that natural dread before change and the unknown. Feeling like if you do that you are such a monster.

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Oh wow, I really love the way you think! 👏 👏 👏 That's such an apt and creative interpretation of the monster/human theme - I so agree with your take on what the metaphor could be!!

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Plot Development & Production

A lot of narrative threads to juggle this season but I thought it did well to do that. Although it meant screen time was sparse and some of the newer characters got more than the OG gang, as I said above I thought that narrative decision made sense because how else do you build audience investment in such a short time frame? And the time skip - I feared they’d do a time skip at the start, but they didn’t and I don’t hate that they did incorporate a time-skip in the middle. It feels like we finished one full part across season 1 & the first 4 episodes of season 2, and then the board was reassembled to set up the pieces for the second arc. Given they only had 8 episodes to both expand the world and set up for the next season, I thought the time-skip made a lot of logical sense - any sooner and it would’ve been too jarring but any later and it would’ve compromised the emotional intensity that was being built.

Production wise, this season was an absolute treat. The value felt higher than last season and the aesthetics more detailed and sharp - I feel like production does half the job in storytelling, and they did really well to ensure that the plot & acting were well supported by meticulous production levels to really bring the world and the story to life.

Overall - I LOVED IT. I thought it felt fresh and unique without compromising on the core essence of ‘Sweet Home’. Provided A LOT of food for thought in terms of the characters and the themes raised, and it did incredibly well to set up the final season so that it finishes off with a bang (hopefully!!). Summer 2024 seems like it’s eons away but at least it’s not the 3 year wait we had between S1 and S2.

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OH and one thing I forgot to add - y'all have no idea how desperate and delusional I felt in being like EH is ALIVE SURELY consistently for like two years after S1 and then the SCREAM I SKRUMPT AT THE END

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brilliant essay <3 the show is about humanity - what makes us humans. and humans are flawed, ridiculous, confusing, unstable, unpredictable, and multidimensional. i like that the showed that the monsters don't want to be monsters, don't want to hurt people, but this monster nature has taken over and they can't control themselves, or at least, not without a monstrous (ha) effort. some monsters are still human (Hyun Su), some humans are monsters even if they don't change on the outside.
yeah, the mad doctor was just trying to understand the monsterization. maybe if they can figure it out, they can make a vaccine or antidote or something that keeps it in check, makes it easier for the human to control it.

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💕 and yes exactly that - esp your last point about some monsters being human and some humans being monsters 👏

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