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Celebrity: Episode 1-12 (Drama Hangout)

Welcome to the Drama Hangout for Netflix’s latest series Celebrity, where Park Kyu-young plays a social media influencer of overnight success… with a dark secret to bring to light.

This is your place to binge and chat about the drama. For an opening review, check out our Episode 1 First Impressions.

Beware of spoilers! This thread is for discussing the entire series.

 
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Top Ten shows that make you want to go live so far off grid in the woods as a hermit, it will take them seven years to find you when you die.

I've never wanted to delete Instagram more in my life and I want to delete Instagram on a weekly basis.
I am participating in the purtrid cycle of vanity by even posting this comment.
I'm going to peel off my skin and sink into the earth and let the worms consume my flesh, the mushrooms my bones hnnng bye

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Why don’t you delete your ‘gram. You seem single-minded so do it!

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*sigh*
Unfortunately, I have no better alternative for sharing my art in any form right now.

I don't like how Instagram functions, I hate its algorithm, its tiktokification, its addictive formatting. Everything.

But eottoke? Do I pick a different platform? They all equally suck, for most of all the same reasons; they're all awful, and all rely on things that drive me insane (paras0cial-ism et al).

Do I just not share my art with anyone? (To have no outlet at all for my creativity would be equally as maddening.) Do I go back to trying real life markets? Do I try do just the same as SNS but with real life networking?
Do I try and make my own platform, fitted just for me? How viable is that in this market, with what resources I have available, and with the position I'm currently in?
( Do I convert to monasticism and truly become a hermit?)

But then, how do I make and share art, or market my art as a business, at all, (do I even want to DO that?), without selling my soul to the devil?
I don't want to compromise my artistic values and philosophy in sharing, producing, or making my art, let alone in if I garner up the courage to try and sell it again, but when your values clash with how this entire world works, what do you even do?!?

So I have Instagram (and basically nothing else on purpose), and hate it, and refuse to bow to how it works, and curate my feed how I want, and post almost Never, and post stories about weird things I like, and have multiple crisis a year about what the sh☠️t I'm doing, this limbo that I'm stuck in, how draining SNS is even at the level at which I participate in it, constantly grappling with participating in it all, and all the while, as I struggle to figure out what the correct direction is here, trying to just make Art for the sake of Goodness and Making Good Art alone, because it is so frakking hard.

(These questions are rhetorical, there is no easy answer to this in the world we currently live in.)

Anyway... I'm going back to the dirt for now 🍄🪱🌱

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I now appreciate that it is not a cut and dry answer. I hope you will continue to share your art somehow.

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*finger hearts* 🤍

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Wow. Much of your last paragraph resonates with me. I'm also an artist (haven't posted in a while though). I hardly go on Instagram except to check stuff my siblings send me in our group chat. And the only content I put out is posting random stuff from other accounts on my story. I've long accepted that I just don't know how to social media. It used to make me really anxious and stressed out because I felt like I should be trying to gain more visibility by doing stuff people liked and blah blah blah. But I think I'm in an okay-ish place now.

I hope you figure it out soon. It's great to be able to create art without all that extra noise to think about.

Also, I don't know if you've already tried it, but perhaps you'd like to consider Reddit? There's a thriving art subreddit on there.

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It's tough, isn't it! Hwaiting to both of us, and thank you~~

Ah... Yeah... It's also, you know, Reddit. Reddit and I are definitely not drift compatible 😂😂😂

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Hi, I have the same problems with instagram. Almost all those sales and marketing tips nowadays suggest social media. I know I need it for work, but I hate putting myself out there. I've ditched my personal account since 2017 but still, having to maintain constant use on the account I use for work is so very much stressful. But what are we other than a slave to the engagement? Let's stay strong💪🏻

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That you are encouraged to sell *yourself* as a product is one of the things I hate the most tbh.

Well no, I’m very explicitly trying to NOT become a slave to the engagement lmao but, 힘내세요 anyway, yes.

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It is a tough world out there for artists, especially with the whole AI thing. Best of luck!!! I wish there are some improvements in the legal system to protect creativity and originality

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I came here just to say rather shout....
Minhyukieeeeee!

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I just finished episode 4 and wonder why I keep watching. It's definitely entertaining, but even before I had little interest in social media (why should I look at photos of complete strangers?), with a few exceptions, but now I have even less desire for this world. I'm fascinated and repelled at the same time.

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Social media has enabled grifters from every country to become ‘influencers’. They should just be called “snake oil” salespeople because of truth in advertising but alas. They are charlatans and parasites feeding off the exploitative capitalist economy which encourages more and more unsustainable consumption.

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I look at pictures of kittens and National parks. And kdramas related content. Otherwise there is nothing that interest me on social media. But I'm not really interested in picture of my family either, so I might not be wired in a way to participate in consumerism.

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As a person who is not interested in cosmetic, clothes, etc. and always found influencers useless, this TV show was quite fascinating. It's funny how at the end, the rich ones don't pay for anything and it's always the less rich ones who have to take out their wallet.

Park Kyu-young was stunning!

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If not for the little mystery at the end of Ep 1, I do not think people would even watch this series till the end because it just another chaebol drama where the only difference is the rich scheme against each other and manipulate the working class using that one social media app.

I do not know if the other episodes were any better because I bailed out after the 1st episode, but the dialogues were dull, the story unattractive (given that it deals with vanity) and its characters obnoxious. Even the acting of Lee Chung Ah, Lee Dong Gun and Park Gyu Young who were all wonderful in their other dramas, were bland.

My opinion: Another Netflix drama with no soul. Skip it!

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I had two interesting facts:
(1) Junho! Junho! Junho! --- While he was still on King the Land (on Netflix), Lee Jun-ho was in the end of final ep/ep. 12 of this fellow Netflix Kdrama as a cleaning crew staff. I knew he was part of 2PM but I knew the other ongoing Kdrama that was included a 2PM member aside from King the Land (Taecyeon from Heartbeat).
(2) I found that each episode titles was just a hashtags (e.g. first episode was titled #get_famous, third episode was titled #likes).

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haha, I binged this over the last few evenings and I knew there must be something remarkable or special about that cleaning guy, but didn't make the connection to Junho (who I never heard of until King the Land.

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I binged Celebrity yesterday. Actually, I mostly just had it on in the background. I must say this-without Park Gyu-young this show would quickly circle the drain. She’s beautiful without being flashy and I believed her in the role. The same can’t be said for the remainder of the cast. They all screeched, ranted, and acted out so often and so terribly, that it was difficult to keep the characters straight because they all behaved the same way, with few exceptions. Also, I saw few familiar faces. People are saying there’s great cameos, but they weren’t anyone I’m familiar with, except Lee Junho.

The show is tacky. There’s no other way to say it. The sets are second-rate, the lighting was very harsh in many scenes, the script was amateurish, and the villains cardboard cutouts.

But somehow, beyond that veneer of cheesiness Park kept making me come back for more. She’s beautiful without being flashy and I completely believed in her performance. There were other decent performances. The story did show the ugly underbelly of greed and corruption that can exist in the influencer world, but regrettably it fell flat.

Btw, influencers are something I’ve never understood. Buying products solely based on the opinion of what most times is a complete stranger? I may be tempted by what’s being sold (I get great decorating tips online), but I would never buy anything based solely on who’s pitching it. The falsity of real-life influencer lifestyles can be so transparent, especially by those who drag family members in front of the camera.

Celebrity may not hold your attention every minute of every episode, but it certainly reflects exactly what we’ve been offered for the most part in 2023.

It’s watchable if nothing better is on.

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OMG the screechhh!! I have no idea how real influencers are but i imagine they’re very different from the online persona they have. But at the rate the ladies were shouting and behaving it’s a miracle they’re not busted for being nasty.

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I suffered through the first three episodes. Frankly speaking, a 12 episode show should have done SOMETHING by the end of its quarter. Someone on here made a comment retelling her dream and the expectations of what the show will be. Yeah, that was more interesting.

Technology is bad and influencers are useless, yeah, okay, such a revolutionary idea... I wanted a murdered influencer giving so much of her life and identity to the internet that even after death she exists in it, but instead I got five loud and obnoxious characters who are a carbon copy of each other.

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The director is a smart one, isn't he? He knows the sexy guy in white T-shirt at the end of the series has lots of fans that would binge-watch the entire series just for a couple of seconds of cameo lol. I would say if you already dislike social media or have anxiety about it, just skip this one.

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ah, that's too bad. i love park gyu-young. i might still watch, because of her.

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didn't have expectation at first because I can't relate to influencer's world at all but I found myself finished 12 eps in 2 days a row. Park Gyu Young is really cool! and she nailed her role, I like it when the lead actors (FL and ML) didn't have 'angel' character, they're human like us who had good and bad side.

overall the drama is good, beside supporting actors characters who shoutout non stop and have bitc*y character, and chung ah who looks like a sick person (but pretty and elegant) in the all episodes. Plus point, gyu young and minhyuk chemistry is 🔥 even though didn't have many romance interaction, they really need romcom together

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I binged the first 6 episodes and I rather like Celebrity. I find it addicting. While I was watching it, I can't help but compare these characters to actual "influencers" I follow irl. Its obvious that no one has a perfect life like what they show in their feed. So it was a very interesting peek into the worst possible scenario.

I did not like any particular character from the start. Maybe partial to Park Gyu Young since I like the actress after her stint as Dali. But I am always partial to an underdog story plus a big splash of revenge, a dash of mystery and a hint of enemies to lovers I was hooked.
Honestly I did not like any of the guys, so I do not expect much from the potential love line. But I did find Kang Min Hyuk quite handsome here. This is his first drama I watched and he has potential.

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On the positive side, the episodes are quite short, so I made it through all twelve, although I watched the last few episodes with little interest. The highlight was the last few minutes.

My problem was that I couldn't get into this world at all and couldn't relate to a lot of things. I couldn't understand why Ah-ri only had to publish a few pictures of herself and she would get enough followers to set everything in motion later on. But maybe it's also because I'm not interested in influencers at all. That's why I found it rather laughable that the news reported on the Ah-ri scandal.

I also had trouble telling the other influencers apart, although I didn't try very hard. All of them were loud, scheming and the purest scandalmongers.

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I had the same thought about how quickly A-Ri gained followers, but I think it reflected how rabid the 'followers' can be on some of these social media / forums, et al. One need only look at Cult 45 here in the U.S. for confirmation. I think 'Celebrity' was not just a condemnation of certain social media influencers, but also that portion of the population that 'follows' the influencers almost mindlessly. FYI, I love the way certain k-dramas haven on certain social issues.

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Finish this. Sigh people should stop take social media so seriously and think it is the real thing. I think, therefore I am, it is already enough to prove your existence tsk tsk tsk

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I wasn’t planning to watch Celebrity because of the drama’s premise of an influencer with 1.3 M followers coming back from the dead but my “Instagram” feeds were filled with praises of many cliffhangers and the male lead was swooning so I checked it out. I basically binged three days, wasting away my long Independence holiday weekend but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Park Gyu Young nailed it once again. This is the first time I actually like watching Kang Min Huyk (have not seen him in Heirs but saw him in Not Yet 30 and Oh! My Master). The whole time I thought Lee Chung Ah’s character will be the main villain _bbbfamous (or who would know so many secrets from many influencers) but glad she remains most likeable character in the show. I made me wonder why she hangs out with all of the snobbish social influencers while she doesn’t like social media and doesn’t like attention. I thought it was just her facade.

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It started off so slow and uninterestingly (who cares about bitchy neo-SNS #mefirst social butterflies?) but the hook at the end of live stream end was enough to press play for Episode 2. I already knew how social media works: the data mining, attention seekers and the parasitic advertising model where nobodies can become somebodies in the narrow ecosphere of selling out for money and fake status. The writer clearly overvalued the economics of influencer followers and added an unreal element of Kardashian bitchkrieg with the society girls. It was unrealistic to have mere low level influencers have their own Gangnam brand stores.

Seo A-ri is drawn into the trap of IG vulture culture. Status is an alluring drug but the rich socialites look down on influencers as surface trash. It leads to predictable journey into the cult of personality, the worst high school click fights and stereotypical corruption stories.

The story device of Seo A-Ri narrating her story from “beyond the grave” is not new but here it was effective. It adds an element to the fake world. If you gloss over execution of the dialogue, there were clearly life lessons tried to be shown: wealth is power and power corrupts; certain classes believe they above the law until their greed is too much to be ignored; betrayal usually comes from the inside; and fame is fleeting.

Park Gyu-Young and Kang Min-Hyuk did not show a range of acting emotions throughout the series. The Gabin Girls were mostly on screech mode throughout the series. There were plenty of plot twists to keep things interesting and some good mystery reveals at the end. But at the end, Seo A-Ri walked away not as tarnished or broken as she should have been (emotionally and financially). The series was better than I expected but it started at a low bar.

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I liked it. Only 12 episodes long, with each episode only lasting about 40 minutes, so there wasn't a lot of filler. For such a short drama, a lot of secondary characters were introduced and fleshed out (most of them terrible people.) There was enough mystery and romance to keep me engaged. I know nothing of the Instagram world, and after watching this, I'm glad I stayed away.

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I was curious and clicked on the play button but it’s addictive. I ff-Ed some of the toxic behind the scenes which I don’t care to see. I am already at ep 4.
I don’t get it. Do people like influencers form groups in SK or is it just the drama. I won’t be surprised. I did know about the likes, followers buying business. But didn’t realize that they would meet and form groups.
I don’t follow many celebrities. Very rarely some actors. Those who I follow hardly post. Lol.

Will continue. Now I want to know who dies.

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The suspense really make the show addictive. That's the only think I praise. The writing is really good creating the suspense and the director kill it with his cinematography story telling.

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I was intrigued and entertained.

The mystery was not as dark as I thought it was gonna be, so I was a bit disappointed in that, but I like it enough to finish watching.

At the very least this makes me wanna watch Dali and the Cocky Prince ( I was hesitant because I love Kim Min Jae and its way ups and down with that dude drama ) and aalso introduced me to Kang Min Hyuk who should always play a tsundere character. Because damn , can he smolders.

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Just binged this to the very nice ending. Hello LJH. So pretty. The commercialisation/commidification of the everyday ... enjoyable on a visceral level - especially to see the loss of perspective when the whole wide world shrinks to the size of a mobile phone screen, but with end points that actually involve real lives. The drama might have been exaggerated, but it was thought provoking. Algorithms, our echo chambers, determine our idea of the world. ( I try to keep my "world" one that lifts me up, rather than drags me down.) At the same time envy was the thread that ran through everything (and greed). FOMO is potent. It was an addictive drama, helped not least by the pretty leads and the OTP. (It always helps)

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[ep 7] I'd like to nominate the kiss for Less sexy and less emotional of Dramaland. They are both so stiff that it's even worse than a dead-fish-kiss.

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Enjoyed this one ... but still happy I'm not much into social media ever since I found out Facebook / Zuckerberg was making millions from promulgating hate.

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