Doctor Cha: Episodes 11-12
by Dramaddictally
Reckoning is the word of the week, as our heroine begins to deal with the knowledge of her husband’s second family. In a cacophony of confrontations, she goes from sadness to anger to clarity — and finally makes a life-altering decision. As for her husband, if you thought he couldn’t get any worse, wait until you see the scum that rises to the surface this time.
EPISODES 11-12
First of all, Jung-sook is officially a badass and Uhm Jung-hwa deserves an award for this performance. She’s layered in emotions at all times, holding back tears while snarling out demands as she tries to conjure her courage. Just as quickly, her tears turn to laughter when she realizes the ridiculousness of the situation she’s in. Overall, it’s pretty brilliant.
We’ve got a lot of confrontations this week, starting with the one where Jung-sook pulls Seung-hee out of a meeting and demands she call In-ho so the three can have it out right then and there. In-ho walks the hospital hallways to Seung-hee’s office and there’s a suspenseful air, like walking to the gallows. When he arrives, Jung-sook doesn’t waste time. She confirms that Eun-seo is In-ho’s daughter and tells him and Seung-hee that if they’re in love, they can just get on with it.
Seung-hee and In-ho start explaining their past and In-ho admits that they’re about to break up. This prompts a spiteful turnaround in Seung-hee, who has no intention of letting him go now that Jung-sook knows the truth. Jung-sook, though, keeps her eyes on the prize and says she returned to her residency after 20 years away — and she intends to finish it. She knows these two rats have been using every tactic they can to force her to quit, but she’s not going to take it anymore. In fact, Seung-hee should be the one to leave — she’s got a month to find somewhere else to work.
The next confrontation comes not long after this when Jung-sook storms into In-ho’s office and asks how much Yi-rang knows about the affair (since it was kind of clear from the fight with Eun-seo that Yi-rang knew something.) In-ho says that both kids know everything and so does his mother. This is when Jung-sook loses her shit and starts screaming and breaking things. In-ho says the kids wanted to keep it hidden from her because they were worried about her health, and she suddenly understands the weight this is putting on them. She tells In-ho he should spend the rest of his life making amends to his children.
This realization causes Jung-sook to take Yi-rang to lunch and have a heart-to-heart. Jung-sook apologizes for putting her through something that other kids don’t have to go through, and I found it pretty touching. Even though In-ho should be the one apologizing, it’s nice to hear someone say it — and it’s a stark contrast from how we see Seung-hee interact with Eun-seo, behaving selfishly while saying everything she does is for her daughter.
And it’s not the only lovely heart-to-heart this week as Jung-sook and So-ra get a bit closer after last week’s drive in the rain. When they get back to the dorms, So-ra comes over to Jung-sook’s place with drinks and snacks and reveals that her own father cheated on her mother when she was younger. Jung-sook thanks So-ra for trying to comfort her and So-ra says that, more than comfort, she wants Jung-sook to know that these things happen, and are more normal than we might think. (And here is our drama’s thesis.)
The real turning points come for Jung-sook when she starts to acknowledge just how bad of a person In-ho is, making her feel the tiniest bit of compassion for Seung-hee. First, In-ho decides he doesn’t want a divorce and breaks up the Seung-hee, apparently lacking interest in her now that he’s been caught. She can’t believe he’s abandoning her again and calls him a bunch of names, threatening to reveal their affair publicly at the hospital. He acts like a martyr, saying she’ll be better off without him. (Oh, the depth of my hatred for this guy…)
It gets worse when In-ho tries to pin something on Seung-hee that’s not her fault. In a complicated set of events, Jung-min makes a difficult decision at the hospital and it leads to a patient’s death. The patient’s parents are intending to sue for malpractice, and In-ho says that he’ll do anything to prevent Jung-min from taking the blame. So, he wants to make another department look culpable — and this is where Seung-hee’s department comes in.
The truth is that it’s really not Jung-min’s fault either (but I think all that will come out next week). The pertinent point for now is that even Jung-sook feels bad for Seung-hee when In-ho completely turns on her in this way. Also, it forces Seung-hee to defend herself at the hospital, bringing her animosity toward In-ho out in public. The whole thing reminds me of the question that Jung-sook’s friend Mi-hee poses when she finds out about In-ho’s affair: “What gives him the right to be loved by two great women?” It’s a question for the ages.
Once In-ho decides he doesn’t want a divorce (because, in his words, he relies on Jung-sook too much), he asks his wife for forgiveness and wants to know what will happen next. We know that Jung-sook is torn, and also that she’s grown in leaps and bounds. But now, more than anything, her judgment is affected by how she’s starting to perceive In-ho: rotten to the core.
She hits a final turning point that’s simple, and yet, speaks volumes. The backstory is that after Jung-sook’s surgery, she got a parking permit for drivers with disabilities, so she could park close to the building. One day, in front of the hospital, she sees In-ho’s car parked in a reserved spot, with her parking permit in his window.
There are many things wrong with this, but Jung-sook first thinks about how he used her permit and drove Seung-hee around. Then, she thinks about how she lived her life putting In-ho on a pedestal, even though he’s such a lousy person — and it makes her laugh at herself for being “pathetic and stupid.” She realizes her own responsibility in what happened by being so permissive, and she calls to report In-ho’s car for being parked illegally. She tells him this whole story at home, when she asks him for a divorce. In response, he gets a nosebleed and falls to the ground, which I hope will not be a major illness that we have to deal with next week.
These were just a jampacked couple of episodes and I think they even trump last week’s. One thing that surprised me was that So-ra and Jung-min started to mend their relationship a little — after a lot of painful glances — but not in the way I predicted.
After their comforting talk, Jung-sook admits to So-ra that she knows she and Jung-min are dating, and even gives her blessing by saying that they suit each other. But So-ra and Jung-min don’t reunite because of this blossoming friendship. Instead, the drama gives Jung-min this real emotional crisis where he’s overwhelmed with guilt because a patient dies. In the midst of it, So-ra is there for him, and says she’ll be by his side throughout his ordeal, as long as he allows her to be. I liked their moments together, but I’m still hoping for a livelier reunion later on.
Another part that surprised me — but I thought it was done exceptionally well — was when Seung-hee goes to counter-confront Jung-sook. They have this argument on a rooftop where Seung-hee points out that she and Jung-sook are not that different. Jung-sook got pregnant while In-ho was dating Seung-hee, and Seung-hee got pregnant while In-ho was married to Jung-sook. The only real difference is that In-ho left Seung-hee for Jung-sook, but not the other way around.
Seung-hee is trying to point out that she’s not the only villain here. And I was happily surprised to see the drama remind its viewers of that right at a critical moment. So much of the tension and tragedy of this show comes from how disappointed the kids are in their parents. It kind of makes me wish for a full reveal to the kids, so that Jung-min will know he was conceived while his father was dating Seung-hee. It’s not to demonize Jung-sook or absolve Seung-hee, but only to get us back to our thesis: these things happen more often than you know, and are more normal than you think.
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1 larelle79
May 22, 2023 at 2:30 PM
I don't think the scene w Suenghee was well done. No matter how you look at it, this is a middle age woman who hung on to a man who not only married someone else, but said man never gave her any intention of leaving his wife. He literally had another child with his wife. And Jung min can do math and I am sure he knows why his parents married. All SH has to do is look at how he was comfortable with lying to JS to know he would have no problem doing it to her.
It's sad that Sueng hee thinks that she and In Ho would be married and blissed 20 years later.
Something tells me he had one foot out the door with SH in college. He had no problem making sure he and JS were around campus together married with a child on the way.
Seung hee is a villain of her own creation.
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marmari
May 22, 2023 at 3:12 PM
Totally agree with you. Cheating is not okay, but cheating with a married man and acting entitled to splitting up that family takes a whole lot of chutzpah. I feel no sympathy for Seung Hee at all--and the notion that In Ho was stolen from her is ridiculous. He wasn't held at gunpoint when he cheated on Seung Hee.
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larelle79
May 22, 2023 at 4:27 PM
And the shock on her face when In ho did exactly to her what they were trying to do to Jeong sook, but on a public scale in front of everyone.
She needs to take this L, if for no reason to repair her relationship with her daughter. She can legit afford since she got her half of her father's estate.
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et865
May 22, 2023 at 8:07 PM
Yup, I agree with you. She's acting like a middle schooler. You took something of mine and I have to get back at you now.
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vienibenmio
May 22, 2023 at 3:35 PM
I really wish she could marry In-ho and learn how terrible being his wife actually is.
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snancy
May 22, 2023 at 3:52 PM
And how she would have to deal with his mother!
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2 Asha13
May 22, 2023 at 2:37 PM
It seems like the drama really wants people to love So-Ra. Fine. I liked her in these episodes. Especially when she egged Dr McDreamy on.
I was squealing when Jeong-suk gave InHo and Seung-Hi their ultimatum. Finally!!!
Seung HI’s reaction (“you’ll be free soon”) and InHo’s shock shows she will cling to him no matter what, making her pathetic, and he doesn’t really want to marry her, making him a jerk. He has just been stringing her along. Her blackmailing him into staying with her just makes her more and more pathetic.
I was warming up to InHo just a leeetle but the driver with disabilities card set me back 😂
Jeong-suk’s conversations with Yi-rang were so warm and loving. I was happy to see that relationship is doing well.
It was sad to see Eun-So’s pain, but wasn’t she the one who started the fight? My memory isn’t what it used to be.
That hug from Mi-Hee was so moving. I was surprised that she advised against divorce. The conversation about InHo’s abilities in the bed was funny.
I her confrontation with Jeong Seok, Seung Hi’s arguments make me think she is still trying to justify her actions to herself.
Does Jeong-suk’s life have to be in danger so many times just to show the two men care about her? In Ho’s super dramatic rush to her side was hilarious though.
Not a big fan of the two grown men in a knock down drag out fight. It would put me off both.
Glad Jeong-Suk asked for the divorce, but it looks like InHo will continue trying to make her stay.
What’s with Roy Kim’s search for his birth parents? Is he going to end up related to any of them? Too much not to expect dramatic coincidences huh?
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larelle79
May 22, 2023 at 2:58 PM
Re: So ra. Jung min described her just like me saw in the series. I just wish he had that conversation or just ended things when he was in a better head space.
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Asha13
May 22, 2023 at 3:00 PM
Yep. I was thinking how accurate it was.
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vienibenmio
May 22, 2023 at 3:36 PM
There's a theory now that Roy will be related to So-ra, and I'm hoping that's the cast. I am 99% sure he is not related to Jeong-suk and I wish that theory would die, lol.
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Asha13
May 22, 2023 at 3:58 PM
I like that theory!
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et865
May 22, 2023 at 8:10 PM
Oh, I like that too. Making him related to Jeong-suk would just be weird!
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Scottie
May 23, 2023 at 2:27 AM
I used to think that Roy is related to a character in the drama, but then came the story of the young mum dying of cancer. I would not be surprised, if his back story was similar. His grandparents could still be alive, but then this would be a much older character and there are not that many in the drama.
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Asha13
May 23, 2023 at 3:20 AM
It would be great if it was something like that, rather than him being related to someone we know
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vienibenmio
May 23, 2023 at 6:20 AM
If he isn't related to any of the characters I will love this drama even more than I already do!
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Asha13
May 23, 2023 at 6:22 AM
YES!!!
3 jerrykuvira
May 22, 2023 at 3:18 PM
Irrespective of how I feel about Seung-hui, I reckon with the question Mi-hee posed : "How is it that he's loved by two great women?" Is it that he's fortunate? Well, I'm glad the women he roped in are getting out, or holding him to proper ransom.
I was quite uncomfortable with the M&M situation that came up with Jung-min. It was nowhere near Family Medicine's fault but In-ho was simply determined to pin it on Seung-hui just for the sake of driving his point home. And to think he actually used the same tactics on Jung-seok when her patient wandered due to Seung-hui's power trip. In-ho is shameless and almost irredeemable. On a positive note, Kim Byung-chul is selling In-ho's supposed remorse so well that I was swayed. But then, trust In-ho to use his very own hands to tank what Kim Byung-chul swayed.
I can't believe he actually used his wife's disabled sticker for himself. He 'depending' on his wife just got more manipulative with that. He knows she's a steadfast, loyal human and that's why he can depend on her should he ever need it. Coming from someone like In-ho, something that is supposed to be an assurance you get from your spouse comes off as extremely selfish and parasitic.(Recipe For Farewell really handled this line very well. For context sake, the husband and wife were separated but her first point of action was to assuredly call on him to handle her non-medical palliative care of which he delivered). In-ho however, as I perceived kinda sees her dependent nature as insurance.
Both mom's breaking down and crying on each other's arms, like they can just be parents, just be mothers. It was really powerful.
So Jeon is now loudly cheering Team Roy. That aside, she won my respect this week when she didn't tell Jung-min that his mom approves of their relationship. That was something that would have scored her points with Jung-min but she just didn't force his hands into not being too pissed with her. I liked that a lot.
Jung-min really wowed me this week. And the actor handling his character really portrayed his guilt in very poignant manner.
Someone needs to teach me how Kim Byung-chul shot that tissue outta his bloodied nose.
And...can we not have grownups engage in petty fights. Especially over a romantic interest. It is and I find it very retrogressive and uncomfortable to watch. It doesn't matter if the person they're fighting over is worth it or not, it's not worth them scuffling on the floor or dirtied in dust or left with scratches or some hair pulled out. But I salute the actors for shooting the scene cause I know I'll pray for the ground to swallow me and for the shot to be done just once and it's just as the director wants it.
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vienibenmio
May 22, 2023 at 3:40 PM
I loved how the handicap placard was the straw that broke the camel's back. Such a small thing on paper, but it was so meaningful.
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Lonestar Girl
May 22, 2023 at 3:55 PM
Great minds! 👍🏼
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jerrykuvira
May 22, 2023 at 4:04 PM
You're very correct. In that little moment, the reason that made In-ho sway me earlier (him saying Jung-seok was a dependable woman and as such cannot afford to lose) became the straw that broke my camel's back. How could he take advantage of the perks of her dependability to this manner.
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larelle79
May 22, 2023 at 4:11 PM
Considering he did absolutely nothing to help her. He refused to give her a kidney. Then to do this. Insulting is the only word I can use and not get it trouble on this site. 😃
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jerrykuvira
May 22, 2023 at 4:19 PM
Not a kidney. A liver. An organ that'll regenerate itself is what he refused to donate.
And to think that In-ho actually pestered Jung-seok to get the sticker...it begs to ask. How low is this guy going to go?
vienibenmio
May 22, 2023 at 5:56 PM
Yeah, that's why I'm convinced they'll divorce. He admits he doesn't love her and I can't see a romance drama having two people end up together if they aren't in love
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kramaddict
May 22, 2023 at 4:51 PM
And another insight into how low a lowlife he was, when he told his wife about the sticker, since she wasn't disabled, she immediately dismissed the idea. Ignoring what she felt, In Ho bulldozed right ahead and got it.
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Nomorelisa
May 22, 2023 at 6:42 PM
I take issue with this drama which says it took her 20 years to discover that her hubby is unethical and without morals. I am sure living with a person for that amount of time, one normally knows her partner's character pretty well. If this is the case, then she is to be blamed for being so naive as it could not be just since her possible liver failure happened that all these ugly truths about him are being revealed. Am I right?
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vienibenmio
May 23, 2023 at 5:49 AM
I think that she felt like being married to him was her punishment for being the "other woman" to Seung-hi. It also seems like he kept her at quite a distance throughout the marriage, so she might not have gotten to know him that well. He treated her more like a servant than a partner.
kramaddict
May 23, 2023 at 7:00 AM
I looked at it as the 'straw that broke the camel's back'. After 20 years, she realized that she wasn't going to take any more of his BS.
RenOIshi
May 22, 2023 at 11:09 PM
That was brilliant! Such a small thing and yet so profound! Profound enough to end a marriage! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
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Asha13
May 22, 2023 at 4:02 PM
“ trust In-ho to use his very own hands to tank what Kim Byung-chul swayed” 😂
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kdramacurious
May 23, 2023 at 7:28 AM
I am likewise not a fan of professional adults engaging in physical fights for comedic purposes. Also not a fan of toilet humor. I realize it's something that other people enjoy, but I could do with less of it. Hopefully, the actors enjoyed themselves while they were shooting those scenes.
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larelle79
May 23, 2023 at 10:03 AM
I think the fight was to show who Roy and In ho would become if they both did not stop it, their department chiefs; who after damn near 40 years still acting stupid.
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4 vienibenmio
May 22, 2023 at 3:38 PM
There was a lot of criticism about ep 12 and how it feels like nothing's really moving along, but I think people need to remember that, while we've known In-ho had a love child for a while now, Jeong-suk just found out. So-ra is the MVP of this ep. I'm mad at Mi-hee for saying what she did, but she kind of made up for it later on by talking to Roy about Jeong-suk. Speaking of, they did us so dirty by cutting his answer to Mi-hee's question.
I am very confident at this point that she will divorce In-ho and there will be at least hints of a romance with Roy.
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Lonestar Girl
May 22, 2023 at 4:02 PM
This is an instance where a dramaland time jump would be appropriate. I wouldn’t mind seeing Jung-sook and Dr. Roy together, but not now. She needs to take care of family business, complete her residency and be on her own for a bit. I want her to realize she’s competent on her own and she’s getting there. And Dr. Roy needs to deal with his own family issues. But I’m not against a future romance. “One year later . . . “
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kdramacurious
May 23, 2023 at 7:30 AM
At this point in the show, I fully expect to see a time jump to the end of her residency program. I would be disappointed if we didn't see that happen.
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5 vienibenmio
May 22, 2023 at 3:45 PM
Also, I love Roy and he did not disappoint these two eps. Rescuing Jeung-suk, offering his place up "to the residents," opening up about his family background to Jeong-suk, pointing out In-ho's hypocrisy, putting the literal beatdown on In-ho, you name it. Be still, my heart!
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6 Lonestar Girl
May 22, 2023 at 3:54 PM
So-ra’s revelation that her dad had also cheated explains the tough girl exterior and the walls she puts up with Jung-min. I’m sure she witnessed her mom’s hurt and doesn’t want to experience the same.
I feel no sympathy for Seung-hee except for the fact that her family shunned her when she got pregnant. That must have been painful, but she walked into everything else with her eyes wide open. Cheating on your girlfriend who’s overseas is not the same as cheating on your wife. And is she forgetting how she treated Jung-sook with such contempt? As if she was the morally superior one? I’m glad Junk-sook told her she has no one to blame for her daughter’s pain but herself.
Looks like Dr. Roy Kim, despite his hilarious but ridiculous tussle with In-ho, is the only doctor who wants to rationally explain -rather than cast blame - to the family why their daughter died. Good for him.
It’s funny how something so small like the disabled parking sticker can be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. But I can relate. My turning point was an old remote.
And how did In-go get two accomplished women? He must be a smooth talking mama’s boy.
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RenOIshi
May 22, 2023 at 11:12 PM
Not trying to be nosy but I’d like to hear more about ‘the old remote’!
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Lonestar Girl
May 23, 2023 at 9:17 AM
I had kept a gate-opening remote from my old apartments. I kept it in the pocket of the driver's side door of my car. I didn't mean to keep it, but once I discovered it, I could not part with it. I think because it was a reminder of my old life, before my troubled marriage. My ex, a control freak to the max, hated that remote. He kept yelling at me to throw it away, even though it did not affect him at all. He had his own vehicle. Then, I went on a mission trip with my church. When I came home, I discovered that he had thrown it away without my knowledge or permission while I was gone. That's when it finally clicked for me. Is this how I want to live the rest of my life? I had been debating whether to leave, but after incident, I personally served him with a Petition for Divorce that same week.
I think because the decision to divorce is so overwhelming, you can't see the forest for the trees. Then, a little thing like a remote or a disabled parking sticker becomes the ax that clears the path.
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RenOIshi
May 24, 2023 at 1:56 AM
Wow! Thank you for sharing! It’s weird how small little things can change fate overnight! I am glad you got out of that unhappy marriage and I hope you have found true happiness with yourself 🥰🫶🏽
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7 Britney
May 22, 2023 at 7:29 PM
For the majority of the run, I've kinda understood Seung Hui and to some extent her daughter but this week's episodes made me give up on both of them. They just annoyed and irritated me so much. I keep having to rationalize the daughter's actions as "she's still young, she's still a teen" etc and ugh, I just honestly can't stand it. "I rather DIE than apply to one school instead of two like his other daughter!". Again, my rational brain knows "heightened emotions of a teen" but my emotional side is so over both mother and daughter. Seung Hui has moved in unreasonably pathetic territory to me. You keep getting evidence of how trash this man is and yet you want to hold on to him even more? You were planning on moving but now it's "you get a divorce & leave the hospital so I can have the life I deserved". It's not happening! The mother in law probably wouldn't be satisfied with her because she's not as well off or prestigious as she was during college, she will always be the mistress he had a love child with, and the mother in law is just too nitpicky for the temperment we've seen with Seung Hui & her daughter.
As someone raised by a single mother, this whole thing is starting to grate on me.
I still find In Ho to be the real antagonist/villain/bad guy in all this. He's the one who cheated both times, he's the one who only cares about his own comfort, he's the one doesn't stand up for anyone, and he's an entitled prick. Just like the friend, why and how did he get 2 amazing women to fall for him? Is he good in bed?! There must be something there that we aren't seeing.
I don't think it's too often the "other woman" is shown to be apologetic or reflective about the role she played in ruining a relationship so in that regard I like or maybe appreciate is a more apt word Jung Sook's acknowledgement of the part she played in how everything's played out.
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Kroy
May 23, 2023 at 12:07 AM
I think with Seung Hui, she is reluctant to give up on the relationship with In-ho because of the sunken cost she has invested. She had a family disown her, has a child without a father and spent 20 years in this relationship so for her to just break up with In-ho is easier said than done.
Part of me feels sorry for both of them Seung Hui and So A Rin, because there are a victim of circumstance ( more so for So A Rin )
but they made their situation worse by their own hand. Seung Hui by saying in the relationship so long and So A Rin for starting the fight they damaged her hand and embedding herself in her father's family. So on that front can't feel sorry for that and Seung Hui demanding Dr cha to get a divorce and quit is unforgivable ( she isn't winning any supporters for her stunts ).
I do agree with you that In-ho is the real villain here because he is the root cause of all the problems in the show. He does what he wants and it is the people around him that have to face the consequences. He always tries to take the easy way out of any problem.
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kdramacurious
May 23, 2023 at 7:20 AM
Yes. No sympathy from me for either Eun-soo or Seung-hi.
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larelle79
May 23, 2023 at 10:05 AM
I still have some for Eun soo. She is a kid who should have proper adults as her parents and do not. That saddens me for her.
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8 Nefret
May 22, 2023 at 11:38 PM
In-ho is not only a pathetic worm, but also a cheating weasel. I already knew that he would never choose Seung-hee, but the fact that he wants to throw her under the bus is especially shabby. How good that Jung-sook finally spoke out about what a weak and rotten character he is.
In my opinion, the last episode was the weakest so far. Maybe it was also because I'm a bit annoyed that the divorce is being dragged out for so long. And looking at the previews, that's not going to change anytime soon. When I get too impatient, I try to remind myself that I grew up in a different culture and can't apply my standards to the series - I would have decided to divorce much sooner.
The fire scene was great, by the way. In-ho, who wants to play the hero and puts on a cape to heroic music, only to crawl across the floor and eventually find that the real hero has already rushed to the rescue before him.
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9 Scottie
May 23, 2023 at 2:50 AM
There were so many great scenes in these episodes! The writing and acting of all the main characters is done so well.
I was pleased with Jung-sook forcing the open talk with In-ho and Seung-gi, she asked and said the right things there. It also made very clear that her aim is to become a fully qualified Dr Cha and she will get there. I loved her bitter laugh on seeing her disability permit, there is no way back to her old self.
In-ho is digging his own grave! It is too late to save his marriage with Jung-sook, that marriage existed on paper only for over ten years already. But now he also showing his true self to Seung-hee. She will not forgive him for abandoning (also professionally) her like this, but I like how the drama dares to show her struggles as well.
The tussle between the doctors was silly, but still hilarious. Not manly fist fights, but biting, pulling, pushing and other mean things. And the friend trying to find an explanation for In-ho attracting these capable women.
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vienibenmio
May 23, 2023 at 5:54 AM
I feel like I'm very invested in the romance between that doctor's sister and the other doctor now!
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10 amfalulawatching
May 23, 2023 at 5:32 AM
On the surface, This show is giving us lots of characters we love to hate or love to love. The mistress is just an adult version of a 2nd female lead character that will stop at nothing to break up a relationship—If I can’t have him, no one can, kind of trope. Then, we have the bumbling, spoiled husband with mommy issues. The impossibly perfect wife, dutiful and self-sacrificing . But, I do think the show does try to go a little deeper. For example, it was I-Rang that started the physical fight that broke the arm of her half-sister. It was I-Rang that asked is shamelessness genetic? Which is a pretty awful thing to say. So, show is trying a little nuance mixed in with some pretty common aged up tropes.
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kdramacurious
May 23, 2023 at 7:24 AM
I'm squarely behind I-rang on this. She's entitled to say awful things to the "friend" who only befriended her out of jealousy and a pre-meditated malicious intent to inflict pain. IMHO, Eun-soo deserved every mean thing said to her and more.
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amfalulawatching
May 24, 2023 at 8:50 AM
I'm not behind either character. But, I am generally uncomfortable with blaming a child-teenager for the wrong-doings of the parents and I'm interested to see how the writers move forward with that theme. I am watching a drama from 2010, the daughter of the mistress is constantly being brought down and insulted for the circumstance of her birth. I get it when I'm watching an historical story, but have a harder time when watching a modern story. In any case, both teenage girls have acted badly. It's not OK to insult someone and cause them physical harm. It's also not OK to try to breakup someone's family. But, then we have to ask why does one child have a right to a family but the other doesn't and that is a harder question at least to me.
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11 kdramacurious
May 23, 2023 at 7:38 AM
The only redeeming scene with In-ho in this episode: the way he handled the pep-talk with Jung-min. (Though even then, it was Dr. Cha's guidance/admonishment that allowed him to handle it properly.)
Speaking of which — don't you find it interesting that the show made a point of showing us how I-rang's artistic talent came from her father? It makes me wonder if In-ho's own father pushed him into medicine. Maybe he had a rotten father and that's the only role paternal model he's had . . . and he never thought to question it.
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12 Zora
May 23, 2023 at 9:20 AM
Seung Hee is a perfect example of a smart and successful woman with low EQ and lacks common sense. Hopefully she wakes up from her delusion soon.
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kdramacurious
May 24, 2023 at 2:57 AM
She's spent decades telling herself she's a victim, but instead of being mad at the philandering boyfriend, she chose to be mad at the 'other' woman. Maybe she buys into the 'men can't help themselves' narrative too.
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13 welh
May 23, 2023 at 10:33 AM
I expected these episodes to be filler, but there was still meat on the story bone.
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14 too_much_tv
May 23, 2023 at 1:32 PM
First, thanks for the recap. ❤️
I'm not sure that I agree that the point of the show is that this is normal. It sure seems like no one is ready for the level of cheating that In-ho has been doing. Did he see himself as cheating when he hooked up with Jung-Sook, and did Jung-Sook even know about the other girlfriend when they got together? She knew about her when Seung-hee came back from study abroad and confronted them, but before the fact? Did he ever love Jung-Sook?
But to me the real cheating was the way In-Ho stole Jung-Sook's life. Instead getting to be a doctor, she took care of his sick father, his obnoxious mother, and his house. (I don't mention the children, because it's normal for parents to take care of children.) The whole family treated her like a servant. She never got to go on a trip. He never gave her a present. He stopped having sex with her. He didn't even take her to Jeju Island! No consideration was small enough that he could show it for her. It's not just that he drove the girlfriend around in a car with her handicapped sticker. He literally refused to let her ride to the hospital with him in the car with the sticker! In a way it's easier to accept that he was afraid to have a piece of his liver removed than it is that he was so selfish about anything that might have made her happy.
Of course Seung-Hee loves In-Ho and wants to keep him. He treated her like a girlfriend--kissing, hugging, saying nice things, being considerate, buying presents, taking her on trips. But did she have to pray that Jung-Sook would die from the liver problem? Because remember, she did do that. Did she have to text In-Ho to tell him not to donate his liver? She was even angry that he celebrated his wife's birthday.
Anyway, this show has fans because it's hard not to identify with Dr. Cha if you are a woman who has been in a relationship with a man. Not that all men cheat or are horribly selfish, but...they all have male privilege and can't even understand it.
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15 sakuradaydream
May 23, 2023 at 5:25 PM
the way the ending of ep12 got me cheering and feeling SO relieved like I was the one going through this, not JS. Manifesting that she just goes through with the divorce by the end of the show.
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16 welh
May 24, 2023 at 5:54 AM
This is usually the filler stage in a series, but not with Dr. Cha. The story lines continue to burrow deep under the skin of the characters to the point of touching raw nerves. The theme of these two episodes was Mistakes. People will always make mistakes but one can only learn and grow if they accept responsibility, ask for forgiveness, and move forward with the resulting knowledge. After years of being in his own self-centered bubble, Dr. Seo begins to realize the complexity and seriousness of his mistakes. But he crumbles around strong women. Just as Dr. Choi is going to accept her own mistakes, she once again turns into a vindictive victim making more callous demands on the people she has hurt. But then again, the psychological survival technique to blame others for one’s own mistakes adds a layer of justification under the guise of protection of a loved one. Jung-min’s discharge of a patient may have been a mistake, but did it meet the standard of care is an open question. The timeline is certain that the patient was in a serious condition but returned two weeks later in dire condition. Cha processes the situation in a humane motherly way while others try to side step the issue of blame in legalese. It was only a matter of time until Cha realized she does not need a ghost husband (one in name only). This a major character growth moment for Cha, jump started by her interactions with Dr. Jeon who has also changed nicely since we first met her.
The elephant in the room still is Seo and Choi’s real campus relationship. Choi thinks that it was a committed relationship towards marriage. But are campus couples really thinking that far ahead? The scant evidence we have is that Seo was tempted by the availability Cha to have sex, something that should not have crossed his mind if that was part of his serious relationship with Choi. For Choi to shame and blame Cha for her unhappiness when she knowingly had an affair with a married man is nonsensical but she convinced herself that she was the victim: that Seo somehow “belonged” to her and her alone. That is not love but obsession. Not to excuse his behavior, but is Seo a milquetoast because of his overbearing, manipulative mother? For a doctor who has to make life and death decisions, he cannot make one in regard to his personal relationships because Choi is overbearing and he cannot process emotions? Seo fainting like a goat at the end of Episode 12 was a bit over the top as a writer’s ploy to make Cha second guess her decision.
When Cha permanently moves out of the marital house, I speculate that the family will fall a part; Seo will reject Choi; mother will get scammed out of her investment; Cha will sell the mortgaged building to clear debt in her name (which will cause MIL rage); I-Rang will not get into school unless her father steps up and guides her path; and Jung-min will have second thoughts about becoming a doctor. Then the conflict will become what will Cha decide: her own path...
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welh
May 24, 2023 at 5:55 AM
.... and happiness or salvage her family from ruin.
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too_much_tv
May 24, 2023 at 6:03 PM
That's right--we don't know very much about the campus dating relationships. Were Seung-Hee and In-ho in a long-distance relationship when he took up with Jung-Sook, or were they broken up? Was he in love with Jung-Sook at one time, or were they never that kind of couple? It doesn't matter for the decisions Jung-Sook needs to make now, but it matters to us in the audience understanding her situation. I think your predictions all make sense. That building is a Chekhovian gun that must go off.
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17 Helenya
May 25, 2023 at 4:01 AM
I’m hanging out for the moment when the selfish mother in law gets scammed by that old man friend who keeps badgering her to invest with him. Just hope Jeong Suk won’t get stung by association
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Seon-ha
May 25, 2023 at 4:48 AM
Ooh, yeah. That setup is brewing pretty strong right now! I’m not usually a tit-for-tat type, but I’d hate to see that building go to anyone else but Jung-sook at this point…
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