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May It Please the Court: Episodes 7-8 (Drama Hangout)

Behold, your weekly Drama Hangout! We might not be covering this drama, but that doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be a place to talk about it, whether that’s squealing with excitement or piling on the analysis.

This thread is exclusively for this week’s episodes and anything prior, so let’s try to keep it as a place to chat about what’s aired — not spoil future plot points for unsuspecting eyes.

 
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He couldn't have killed them. Could he? Everything checks out. His alibis check. Motives for the times he assaulted them couldn't point to him being the murderer. They're perfect coincidences but they check. Even the DNA? There's secondary transfer. Could it be his father's DNA someway somehow? His father is possibly alive somewhere? They lost connection at the point when he moved abroad.

Even if Shi-baek says he's the killer, I'm not believing him until the end of MIPTC.

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The murders in MIPTC is so much in the forefront of the story it's really hard to pick out the little comedic jabs in-between. I do love the jabs. Especially the one when Chak-hee asked Shi-baek if he likes her and he showed her to the door of the car🤭😂.

And I wasn't expecting him to take the role in Gi-do's campaign. Just I was surprised Ki-do gave his right hand man leeway to do whatever with Haran. I expected it, I knew he was going to say it, but I was surprised when it came out without a reaction on his face.
And now, I'm of the opinion that Grandpa Jang is/was a bad guy. The scene where he approached young Shi-baek was creepy.

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Yes, aside from the scene where grandpa Byung-chun approached young Shi-baek, there's also the fact that Yi-yeon (Haran's and Gido's daughter) told Chakhee to ask "the person you love" about the wrongs that have been done to her, which I infer to be the grandfather.

With so many rotten apples in Jangsan, it wouldn't be surprising if they all came from the same old tree.

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Oh, and that scene where Gi-do tells Seo-Jun that he can have an affair with Haran . . . I wondered if that was his way of saying he already knows that Seo-Jun and Haran are actually having an affair (since an earlier episode seemed to suggest that), and that the only reason Gi-do hasn't done anything about the affair is that he doesn't care enough about her to bother.

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Gi-do is well aware of the affair. He pointedly told Seo-jun to sleep with Haran for all he cares. The way he okayed it was scary. Seo-jun not denying nor affirming was the best thing to do.

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If the granpa is the bad guy, the drama team did a good job of casting a likeable granpa to divert the audience from suspecting him because he seems too sweet for murders.

Maybe the granpa accumulated wealth through illegal dealings, but I don't want him to be the mastermind. I guess one person is there in the background because the reveal of the watch as a gift for patriots has got to mean something.

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Grandpa uses a walking stick. It's gonna be the greatest twist of MIPTC if Grandpa's stick was a ruse and he is seasoned patriot yet a skilled assassin, an assassin who trained Lee Dong-pil.

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No idea why they keep pushing these stupid fake-outs. If Shi-baek isn't the killer, it's super lazy. If he is the killer, it's supremely stupid. I was almost hoping that he would answer "No, I didn't kill all of them" because it wouldn't be a lie if he only killed one or two of the victims. Now, I'm pretty sure this will just be him "joking" again and going the dark humor route in the most annoying and unfunny way possible.

At this point, I almost hope Shi-baek did it because that, at least, would serve as a half-way decent payoff. I'm sick of the mysterious half-smiles and the perfect white knight routine (he was threatening the police chief over a mother and her baby, really?!) that's coming off a bit ragged by now.

Most importantly, it would finally give us the Shi-baek screentime that I've been sorely missing over these last four episodes and a probably riveting performance by Lee Kyu-hyung to boot. Plus, what's more poetic than the killer only being able to keep on killing because he happens to be useful to exactly the right amoral bastard? I'm just not invested enough in Shi-baek's shallow good guy persona, I'd rather watch him be perfectly unhinged and showing his teeth.

One thing I was surprised about: No mention of the police chief and his current health status. Is there a possibility he could serve as a potential witness later on?

Last but not least, some stuff that I liked:

- The hug. It's way too late for things to turn shippy but I adore a respectful platonic friendship between a man and a woman.

- Chak-hee going the medical malpractice route with her chip client. Now I really want to know what that thing is and if it has directly caused some of the woman's more disturbing symptoms.

- Finally some Shi-baek background info!

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The hug was soo sweet. And it's not late, I still ship them:/

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By now I am sure that Si-baek's brother is the real murderer. I remember Si-baek touching a roll of tape in his restaurant, which is surely the reason why his fingerprints were found at the crime scene.
My guess is that Si-baek will relativise his apparent confession at the beginning of episode 9 in that he committed the murders in his mind because the victims were guilty.

Nevertheless, Si-baek is definitely not an innocent, but at least has an "extraordinary" understanding of vigilante justice, considering how he chased the police chief down the street in his car.

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Oh I knew the tapes in the restaurant were important, but I didn't relate it to Shi-baek's fingerprint.

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The brother's physique doesn't match with the body of the person shown standing in the doorway in some previous episode. I am leaning more towards the memory loss guy doing the actual job and the brother egging him on.

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yup, i think it's the guy working for him in the restaurant. he has anger issues, his physique fits, the low voice... but he's being prodded/controlled by the brother.

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Well now. I can't say I saw that confession coming. As it was a cliffhanger confession, I suspect we're being set up for a 'just joking ' scenario in the next episode. I'm also suspecting the brother. I figured brother in law as opposed to brother because I thought GiDo mentioned that he had 'her eyes' when referring to the chef's murdered wife. Having said that, I doubt if his hands are completely clean either. It'd be a turn up for the books if he is actually the killer.
I'm still enjoying the interaction between both leads, they spark off each other well.

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I think killer is shi-baek's brother. They're not blood brothers, right?
I also think that neighborhood grandma is Shi-baek' mom
There are sooo many questions.
_who is the killer
_who killed shi-baek's brother's wife
_what was the above person's relationship with Mr. Jang.
_Who is the man who lost his memory and why it happened
_Who is Lee Dong-Pil
_What happened to Shi_baek's father
_What's the matter with Chak-hee's father

And the last question is why the writer just adds to the questions instead of answering the previous ones! I'm
very confused!!

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Oh, I had the same thought about the neighborhood grandma being Shi-baek's mother! That would explain why she feeds him dinner and lets him get away with getting ice cream from her freezer. But — I also think it's possible he helped her with a past case and that's why they have the relationship that they have, so I'm a bit on the fence.

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I'm also operating on the assumption that Chi-sik (the restaurant owner) is the killer and that his wife's death is somehow related to why he's doing these killings.

However, I am utterly confused about Chi-sik and Shi-baek's relationship. Episode 7 tells us that they are "brothers" while the background check that Gi-do got for Shi-baek in Episode 8 said he had no siblings.

Speaking of which: why does Chi-sik hang himself only to slice off the rope at the last minute? Is that how his wife died?

Gido's remark that Shi-baek has Hee-soo's eyes also made me wonder if she could have been his mother. But if that's the case, does that mean Chi-sik is actually Shi-baek's father? I assume it's possible since she died 30 years ago; she'd certainly be old enough to be his mother.

I found it interesting that Byung-chun (the grandfather) assumed it would be Shi-baek's father who was the patriot who had been awarded the watch. Could it have been Shi-baek himself who 'earned' that watch? There were years of his life that are undocumented. And we still have no idea why he's so good at hand-to-hand combat.

At this point, I'm thoroughly confused about what I want — Would it be better if Shi-baek is the killer and we have a compelling reason for why? Or would it be better if Shi-baek knows who the killer is and is attempting to draw suspicion from them by doing the things that he's been doing?

Finally — I confess that I had a truly hearty laugh at the thought that Gi-do would have to pull strings to keep Shi-baek from being arrested because he's already publicly allied himself with Shi-baek via the campaign photos. It's so deliciously ironic that Gi-do is in the position of having to protect Shi-baek even while Shi-baek is (seemingly) plotting Gi-do's downfall.

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I think Chosik does that to punish himself. He brings himself to the point where it's really hard to breathe and he's struggling to find air and then cuts it down during that moment. That scene has more than 1 symbolisms. It could be as I said earlier a means to punish himself for her death; there was something he did/that happened 30 years ago pertaining to his late wife that he's relieving to punish himself; or that is his escape method from drowning in thinking about his late wife. You know, at that point when he's now struggling to breathe, the focus of his pain shifts to himself. So even if it's just for a few seconds, he wants to forget it for just those few seconds.

Talking about the arrest, I must say that I enjoyed the entire Q&A between Shi-baek, Chak-hee and Detective Young-jin.

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Yes. I also wondered if this was his way of being as close as he can be to his wife—literally at the edge of life and death—since it's only in death that they can be together again.

It almost feels like he's staying alive just long enough to have his vengeance, but he's ready to go once he gets it all done.

Love the interrogation scenes, for sure.

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Most likely the brother is brother-in-law because Gi Do mentioned Hee Doo and Shi Baek had same eyes.

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