The Law Cafe: Episodes 1-2
by DaebakGrits
If you’ve ever wondered what the love child between Vincenzo and Our Beloved Summer would look like, then you’re in luck. KBS’s latest rom-com The Law Cafe has all the sweetness of a rekindled high school romance with the added kick of a brazen, justice-seeking heroine. But when our leading lady quits her day job at a prestigious law firm to open a “law cafe,” will her new business prove fruitful, or will her leading man get in her way?
EPISODES 1-2 WEECAP
I wasn’t sure what to expect with our latest rom-com The Law Cafe. This drama promised a lot, and I had a few concerns that it wouldn’t find a balance between all the various plot devices. There’s the over-the-top comedy, the bickering former lovers, various legal cases, and the coffee shop setting, where customers are able to ogle flower boys and order a side of legal advice with their morning Americanos. It seemed like the very embodiment of the idiom “to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.” And yet… it works for me (so far).
Admittedly, I was still a bit concerned after our initial introduction to our leading lady KIM YURI (Lee Se-young), because her actions in the opening courtroom scene were annoyingly unprofessional. I don’t quite understand the supposed faux pas of her wearing a tiger-striped blouse, but the way Yuri talked out of turn and argued directly with her opposing counsel was off-putting. If the writers were trying to portray her as being an intelligent woman who also marches to the beat of her own drum, I think they missed the mark a bit with that scene.
First impression aside, we do quickly learn that Yuri is a talented, hardworking lawyer who has accumulated a whole wall of awards and accolades. Even her boss CEO HWANG (the always delightful Kim Won-hae) is torn between celebrating and mourning her recent resignation. She may be a pain in his butt, but he can’t deny that she’s an astounding lawyer that he’d like to keep on the payroll — even if her pro bono work costs their firm more money than she earns.
Yuri has just one case left before she leaves the prestigious Hwang & Goo Law Firm, and after she wraps up the public service lawsuit against a factory where unsafe conditions led to a worker’s death, she’s going to open a law cafe. And in case you’re just as confused as everyone else who hears Yuri’s business plan, a law cafe is like a normal cafe — but with an optional side of free legal advice for those who need it.
Yuri’s logic is that she can help potential clients avoid the hassle of a courtroom battle with her savviness and some sternly worded documents, and she’s confident that her business will be successful. Her new landlord KIM JUNG-HO (Lee Seung-gi), however, has multiple reasons for being opposed to her cafe.
The rationale he provides her for wanting to terminate her newly signed lease — penalty fees be damned! — is the one most rooted in logic: she couldn’t tell the difference between a coffee bean and a lima bean. In a neighborhood home to several other coffee shops, her incapacity to brew a good cup of coffee is a valid concern. It’s understandable that he’d question the profitability of her business and, thus, her ability to pay the rent, but Yuri suspects the real reason Jung-ho is so eager to kick her to the curb is more personal.
In true K-drama fashion, our leading man and lady share a past. In fact, they were close friends in high school and college, but for some reason that remains a mystery to Yuri, Jung-ho built a metaphorical wall between them and has since gone to great lengths to avoid her. Like, he literally ran away and hid from her after the wedding ceremony for their mutual friends HAN SE-YEON (yay, Kim Seul-gi!) and DO JIN-KI (Oh Dong-min).
Yuri breaks the fourth wall to tell her version of events, and she laughs and responds as though her trip down memory lane was prompted by someone asking if she liked Jung-ho. She vehemently denies ever having feelings for him, but methinks she doth protest too much.
I mean, even if we ignore the fact that this is a romance drama and acknowledge that people (and K-drama characters) are capable of going from 100% platonic friends to having romantic feelings later in life, her suggestion that they fake date in college seemed rather sus. Was it really a means to deter unwanted suitors, or was it her juvenile attempt to ask him out while still having the “I was just kidding lol” safety net to fall back on if he rejected her?
Regardless of Yuri’s motivations, Jung-ho accepted her contract relationship proposal, and we are treated to a very cute montage of this fake couple “acting” like they’re a campus couple. Right up until the moment Jung-ho decides to end their pretend romance and leave Yuri hanging.
In the present, Jung-ho keeps insisting that he’s going to terminate the lease, even if it means that he will have to sue her, but his opinion softens after Yuri tricks him into attending her final courtroom trial. She successfully proves that the factory’s safety violations made the company liable for the victim’s death, and her justice-driven desire to defend the little guy ultimately wins Jung-ho over — but not without some extensive stipulations.
Jung-ho stays up all night composing an addendum to Yuri’s lease that’s thicker than a John Grisham novel, and it contains petty and restrictive rules intended to drive Yuri away. This, Beanies, is when we learn that Jung-ho — who also breaks the fourth wall to tell his version of past events — did have romantic feelings for Yuri.
When he transferred to Yuri’s high school, he immediately usurped her spot as the top ranking student, but instead of being upset, she asked him to help her find the solution to the math problem that she couldn’t solve. So began his 17-year unrequited crush. But if he has feelings for her, why is he pushing her away?
K-drama logic would suggest one of two reasons: either he’s trying to maintain the physical distance needed to get over his feelings or he’s being a noble idiot. Initially, I thought it was the former because — let’s be real — fake dating the woman he loved could not have been easy, but it appears there’s some of the latter thrown into the mix, too… but more on that later.
Yuri takes on her first law cafe client JO SUK-JOON (Jo Bok-rae), a man driven insane by the excessive noise coming from his neighbors’ apartments. At first, it appears to be a pretty cut and dry case, but then she learns that the apartment above Suk-joon is vacant. With other tenants reporting similar loud noises of equally mysterious origins, Yuri suspects that his problem lies with the poorly constructed building, not his neighbors. As she digs deeper, Yuri discovers that the apartment complex was built by Dohan Construction, the company responsible for her father’s work-related death.
In order to avoid culpability for the fire that killed Yuri’s father and several other workers, the CEO of Dohan Construction LEE PYUN-WOONG (Jo Han-chul) framed Yuri’s father. A witness lied that Yuri’s father came to work intoxicated and started the fire, and KIM SEUNG-WOON (Jeon No-min), Jung-ho’s father and the prosecutor on the case, failed to convict Pyun-woong.
After the trial, Yuri was infuriated at the injustice, and she took her frustration out on Seung-woon and Jung-ho. She rebuffed Jung-ho’s comforting affection and umbrella to shield her from the thematically appropriate downpour, but after Yuri got over her initial anger, she apologized to Jung-ho. Logically, she knew that he and his father were not responsible, but in the aftermath of the trial she was blinded by her emotions. Jung-ho and his father just happened to get caught in her crosshairs.
Even so, Jung-ho never forgot about the Dohan Construction fire, and when Jung-ho became a prosecutor, he looked into the case files. Something about the documents looked janky to him, and he confronted his father, suspicious that Seung-woon had gone easy on the defendant because — shocker — Jung-ho’s maternal family owns Dohan Construction.
Although Seung-woon claimed he and Jung-ho’s mother cut ties with her family, Jung-ho remained unconvinced and began wallowing in his guilt by association. Jung-ho resolved to be a noble idiot and distance himself from Yuri, believing the misdeeds of his family made him unworthy. So he got drunk, waited outside where he knew Yuri would find him, and tearfully bids her goodbye. She doesn’t realize it, of course, because he never actually explains his intentions. Thus, her present-day confusion.
We can also assume that it is at this point that Jung-ho quit his job as a prosecutor and transitioned into his current persona as a track-suit wearing bum who also moonlights as a successful author. But if you thought Jung-ho was secretly a romance writer — I totally wanted that be the case — you’d be wrong. Instead, his online novels are actually part of his own revenge plot to expose his family’s dirty laundry.
And if the little speech Jung-ho gave when he was trying to talk Suk-joon down from the ledge of his apartment building is any indication, Jung-ho has been plotting and biding his time so he can enact his revenge at the best possible moment. Yuri’s heart goes pitter-patter as Jung-ho promises to help her and Suk-joon file a lawsuit against Dohan Construction, and it’s downright amusing to see her completely flustered and unable to identify her feelings.
Her current confusion does seem to suggest that she was being truthful when she claimed that she didn’t have feelings for Jung-ho when they were younger, so maybe absence did make the heart grow fonder? Or maybe she’s just been in denial for a ridiculously long time? Personally, I like the fact that the timeline for Yuri’s feelings is a bit of a mystery. With a premise like this one, we already know that there will be romance, so the real fun is going to be watching her go through the mental gymnastics of denying and then accepting her feelings. And from what we’ve seen of her character so far, that should be a pretty fun ride.
I also like that the romance is at the forefront of the plot while the legal aspects of the story are seemingly taking a backseat. As I said earlier, there’s a lot of plot devices and artistic choices being thrown around in this drama — mostly for quirkiness and comedy — but I think grounding and embedding the chaos within the equally crazy romance helps keep everything in check. Well, mostly.
The comedy doesn’t always stick the landing or tickle my funny bone, and I have reservations about the characters breaking the fourth wall. It seems heavily inspired by Our Beloved Summer, especially in context with the former high school/college romance, but without an explanation for why the characters — even the random neighborhood ajummas — are talking to the camera, it feels like a poorly conceived imitation. If they aren’t going to give a valid reason for why the characters are speaking to us directly (e.g., a documentary set-up), I wish that the ability to break the fourth wall was restricted to Yuri and Jung-ho so it seems more like a cheeky little way of emphasizing their different perspectives. But if the whole neighborhood is able to address us, as would seem to be the case, it loses some of its impact, in my opinion.
In general, though, I thought this was a fun premiere, but as of right now I don’t see this being a runaway hit. I suspect that the stylistic humor and video editing is going to be an acquired taste for many, but I also think many people will stick around to see how the romance between our leading couple plays out. I just hope they don’t address their feelings too soon because the high-end energy of their bickering is a large part of this drama’s appeal, and if the romance progresses quickly so the story can shift and focus on the revenge plot, I fear the magic I found in these two episodes is going to peter out.
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Tags: first episodes, Kim Nam-hee, Kim Seul-gi, Lee Se-young, Lee Seung-gi, Oh Dong-min, The Law Cafe
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1 miso
September 8, 2022 at 9:11 AM
I loved all the scenes with the leads. The bickering and the sweetness were both on point even if them playing high-schoolers was a stretch.
I really like Jung-ho's character because he seems sensible and logical and he doesn't oppose Yu-ri just for the heck of it. Plus I seriously needed a dose of cute LSG to wash away the memory of serial-killer LSG. Looking forward to more of that!
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JillofAllTrades
September 8, 2022 at 11:10 AM
I have not (yet) watched serial killer LSG. I was glad he took that role because I felt he was playing too safe by choosing roles close to his image. One reason I liked his Son-o-gong was because he was what can be called "A lovable rascal".
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miso
September 8, 2022 at 11:14 AM
Yes I was glad he ventured outside his comfort zone too with that role. The fact that he did a good job is probably why I need the sweetness and light version now.
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JillofAllTrades
September 8, 2022 at 11:21 AM
I agree. He being in love is me being in love!
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sunnysaturdays
September 8, 2022 at 11:40 AM
Where did LSG play a serial killer?
JillofAllTrades
September 8, 2022 at 12:15 PM
@sunnysaturdays Mouse.
SooHa
September 9, 2022 at 2:38 AM
You speak my mind! Watching him in here, falling in love, just makes me falling in love again with him. He always do this magic by tugging my heart like he did as Son-o-gong
2 Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 8, 2022 at 9:36 AM
Key word watching this was confused. I didn't get the time line of how long they had been separated. I will give it until the 4th episode to see if I can stick with it as I can see the potential but I didn’t keep me totally engaged or make me laugh out loud. Unlike some of the other shows I was watching alongside it like The best hit.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 8, 2022 at 9:46 AM
@daebakgrits thanks for the weecap. Sorry I forgot to say I loved this inspired intro sentence:
If you’ve ever wondered what the love child between Vincenzo and Our Beloved Summer would look like, then you’re in luck. KBS’s latest rom-com The Law Cafe has all the sweetness of a rekindled high school romance with the added kick of a brazen, justice-seeking heroine.
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DaebakGrits
September 8, 2022 at 12:50 PM
It feels so true, though! 😂
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3 Nefret
September 8, 2022 at 9:44 AM
I too am not a big fan of breaking the 4th wall. Also, I sometimes had the feeling that the cuts were strangely abrupt.
But I like the friends-to-lovers storyline and hope the two of them bicker for as long as possible.
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4 emsel
September 8, 2022 at 10:05 AM
I never thought I would drop a Lee Seung Gi/ Lee Se Young drama, but here I am. I couldn't finish ep 1 and whatever cuteness they showed between the OTP did not work for me because the leads interaction, especially the little quarrels were like sibling fights (I guess it is partly because of their previous characters from Hwayugi still being fresh in my mind after all these years).
The legal side of the plot is very mediocre and I don't see how it will merge with the romance aspect, especially with a looming angst story between the leads. Also, I am not feeling any of the supporting characters and the pinkish color grading is seriously off putting in some scenes which gives it an old kdrama vibe. Really a bummer because I am missing rom-com Kdramas :(
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 8, 2022 at 10:08 AM
Have you got access to Once upon a small town? That has a more traditional rom com with the small time vibe and Love in contract is heading over too.
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emsel
September 8, 2022 at 10:22 AM
Yes, I watched Ep 1 and dropped it because of Joy's acting. Life is short and I do not want to tolerate things I dislike and continue watching, especially after "Why her?" (Still feeling the burn from it).
I have no hopes for Love in Contract, but will still catch the first episode out of my own Kdrama watching principles.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 8, 2022 at 10:45 AM
Why her after burn…no need to say anything else I get you
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Myst98
September 8, 2022 at 4:22 PM
I was about to recommend Once upon a small town too. A really lovely and nostalgic drama so far. I really don't get the Joy hate here, is it cos she is an idol too? I had no idea she was and was impressed with her acting in her debut drama. Try and watch all 3 episodes out, her character motivations are explained and her acting makes sense, she is just following the script. Her acting and chemistry with the cast is so good!
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nainaigalaxy
September 8, 2022 at 12:32 PM
Have you tried Good Job starring Jung Il-woo and Kwon Yuri? I mean the plot there is not strong either but the leads' chemistry and the comedy part are on point imo.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 8, 2022 at 12:54 PM
I had the same feeling, he characters didn't work for me and the tonal shifts were jarring. It was channeling Our Beloved Summer to the point where it felt less like affectionate homage or inspiration or more like a direct rip-off (who were these people even monologuing to?).
I wasn't expecting to love this show, but I also wasn't expecting to fast forward almost entirely through episode 2. It's a hard drop.
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SooHa
September 9, 2022 at 2:42 AM
OMG, you made me realized that both of them are in Hwayugi!! LOL
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Ally
September 9, 2022 at 8:57 AM
This was the only reason I was even thinking of starting this, but with the lukewarm reception here, I think I may pass on it.
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5 Ayan
September 8, 2022 at 10:10 AM
Thanks for the recap! I really wanted to like this show, in fact I needed to like it, save me from the drama slump!
As adorable as the cast are Lee Se-young and Lee Seung-gi, I felt the urge to drop within five minutes of episode 1. The chemistry between our main leads is there and I love the fact they were friends in the past. I didn't expect that angle and especially to find out Yuri is his first love? However, I would have liked Jung-ho not be the lead with the photographic memory, landlord, successful writer and a former prosecutor all by the age of 30-35 etc. What also didn't help is the breaking of the fourth wall, it just took me out of the story. If anything, I think the drama has taken all the successful parts of recent dramas and jammed them into one without any subtlety.
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6 latebloomer
September 8, 2022 at 10:11 AM
@daebakgrits, you did a fabulous job of straightening out the plotlines and weeding out all the extra stuff (real estate agents, ghosts, neighborhood ahjummas, the doctor-cousin, the high school besties, etc, etc.)
For me, there was one magic moment in these two eps: the last scene in ep. 2. When Yuri was stunned into silence, and Jung-ho was dead serious. Their feelings were written all over their faces. In that moment, I felt like there could be a genuine story here with more than Yuri shouting at Jung-ho and Jung-ho running away from Yuri. I hope so. If I can find another magic moment next week, I'll stick with this drama. But if shouting and running away is all we get, I'm out.
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emsel
September 8, 2022 at 10:28 AM
Yes, @daebakgrits sure did a good job because as I continued reading, I was second guessing my decision. This is what you call as the power of writing
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DaebakGrits
September 8, 2022 at 12:43 PM
Thank you! I tried to keep to the important bits for my own sanity, but I do feel a little guilty for not including the cafe flower boys Yuri hired. Their reaction to Yuri and Jung-ho's fighting was probably my favorite moment from this week. haha
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7 Zora
September 8, 2022 at 10:32 AM
As much as I love LSY and LSG, I don't think this drama is working for me.
Whoever thought that it's a good idea to add 'breaking the fourth wall' should be fired.
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8 JillofAllTrades
September 8, 2022 at 11:08 AM
I am probably one of the minorities who likes the first two episodes! I had my qualms and peeves for some parts but they were minor. The biggest problem I had with how much underused (both in terms of screen time and character) Kim Seul Gi was. (Why no one thought of casting HER against Nam Goong Min in that new show? She can hold her ground and can bring so much energy to it)
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Kafiyah Bello
September 8, 2022 at 11:13 AM
I liked it too!!
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Becky
September 8, 2022 at 1:47 PM
Me too.
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Lalla32
September 10, 2022 at 10:31 AM
Kind of loved it... so you are note alone :D
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9 Kafiyah Bello
September 8, 2022 at 11:11 AM
I didn't realize noble idiocy could be done at the beginning of a drama, but here we are. Also as soon as they lingered on his father and he broke up with her, it was obvious he left for family reasons. Also okay Kdrama, I see you with the chairman and his male and female lovers, lol.
I still loved the first two episodes. I always maintain a romance is better when the man likes the woman first. I look forward to this romance and the bickering. Their chemistry is lovely, so I am excited.
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10 tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 8, 2022 at 11:20 AM
Love the leads, especially Yoo Ri. She rocks!
I also felt the Our Beloved Summer vibes. I did't like how they "resolved" things in that show, so I hope Law Cafe takes another route. So far so good tho.
I was kinda disappointed about the pinnochio trope, I hope they resolve it soon he needs to get his life back.
But the only real problem I have with the show is: WHY SO LITTLE KIM SEUL GI?
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JillofAllTrades
September 8, 2022 at 2:57 PM
But the only real problem I have with the show is: WHY SO LITTLE KIM SEUL GI? - THIS.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 8, 2022 at 9:15 PM
We saw her like 5min in two episodes. They missed so many chances.
You're bestie opens a cafe and you don't even go to say hi? Your missing friend appears after years and you don't go to see him?
If her character is only for high school mmemories and make her husband look good I swear... 😞
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JillofAllTrades
September 18, 2022 at 1:15 PM
This is getting worse with each passing episode.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 20, 2022 at 3:26 AM
I'm even forgetting she's in the show.
11 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
September 8, 2022 at 11:31 AM
So is the ML writing webtoons? Does he need a PD?
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 8, 2022 at 12:34 PM
😂
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12 Kurama
September 8, 2022 at 11:59 AM
I was pretty disapointing. I didn't like any character. The FL wasn't convincing as a lawyer. Her idea of Law Café is foolish. I mean she can give advice but it's all, if she does more she is becoming his/her lawyer with all the obligations. She already did too much in the first case...
The ML was so childish. His reason to break up and leave his job seems thin.
I didn't like the humor but I will try 2 episodes more.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 8, 2022 at 12:58 PM
The Law Cafe made no sense to me. Is that even legal - to dish out legal advice over coffee with no client agreements or formal representation?
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Kurama
September 8, 2022 at 1:14 PM
I know that in the city I work in, they have an event where people can ask lawyers question for free. They are sorted by subject (divorce, succession, etc.). The lawyers explain them the situation and give advices during 20 minutes. But it's all. No phone call, no letter, no on-site travel...
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beffels
September 8, 2022 at 9:47 PM
Lots of places have things like @kurama describes - but if you actually wanted to get more than general advice you’d have to pay. I think she will need to realise that she can’t go the full nine yards for everyone who comes into her cafe.
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Britney
September 9, 2022 at 11:38 AM
I think that will be kinda where Jeong Ho comes in. He seems to be a realist who is quite honest and direct (to an extent). Obviously, she'll make her own decisions and choices but I think having someone in her ear saying "this won't work! This isn't practical" will help her be more successful in her cause.
As I write that, I really do love her idealism though haha and how she's willing to take on goliaths while she's a little ole david haha
I think, if done well, the show can make them such a good and balanced team.
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13 brian
September 8, 2022 at 12:15 PM
Thanks for the recap! I still remember SeYoung as my favorite zombie from a Korean Odyssey. She was undead but she tried her best and was an innocent victim. So she is both very pretty and super fun, especially her acting with the Male Lead. Their chemistry is quite good, almost like they've acted together before. Anyway, I've only watched the first episode, I'll watch the second one soon!
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bbstl 🧹
September 8, 2022 at 1:13 PM
Yeah, 😬 as I watched this I kept thinking how great she was as the zombie but not this so much.
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14 Nal
September 8, 2022 at 12:52 PM
This wasn't among the September kdramas I was looking forward to but I started it today on a wimp and strangely liked this.
Since I'm still unable to drop dramas, I hope it's a fun
Ps: It's ridiculous but I think Why Her has truly scared me. I get flashbacks to that drama from the slightest thing
E.g when LSG dropped that umbrella in that flashback I thought of it.😩
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15 Britney
September 8, 2022 at 2:07 PM
Okay, first of all, I love that @daebakgrits said this was like the love child of Vincenzo & Our Beloved Summer haha
I watched both of those shows so just based on that, my interest might've be piqued haha
But I was already looking forward to this drama. I don't think I had expectations but at the same time, it also wasn't what I thought it would be nor were the characters who I thought I would gravitate to.
I really liked Kim Yu Ri. I really love how passionate and self assured she is. I love that she isn't a pushover. I even like that she's compassionate to a fault.
Do I think she should've dealt with the guy with the hammer? Definitely not because that dude radiated danger but because she was willing to be open to him, she found a bigger problem and case.
I absolutely love the look of the cafe and everyone's homes. The cafe and the shots of the coffee being brewed genuinely made me feel going to a cafe and just enveloping myself in the smell haha
I enjoy the moments when they're bickering or driving each other crazy. I think those moments are the best.
I thought the show would be paced faster especially given how animated they are when they're talking law.
I kinda feel like Jung Ho views Yu Ri in an idealized way and he sees himself as her protector in a way (which is why he, at least in part, wrote into the contract that he can get involved in her life but she can't disrupt his). Maybe he's also feeling guilt so it's mixed up inside of him.
He's petty and ridiculous.
I'm looking forward to his verbal battles with that prosecutor and his uncle (I think it's his uncle).
I like that he seems to be writing his webnovels about his corrupt family. Yu Ri was right about him not being able to move on from the past but I think once they reveal the uncle and possibly the rest of the family, he will be able to do it.
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16 Britney
September 8, 2022 at 2:57 PM
I've seen people comment about the breaking of the 4th wall and I personally didn't mind it. I like that the characters can share their inner thoughts plus I've read webtoons where that's a thing. The characters or even the author will do a breaking the 4th wall thing.
Plus I've watched shows like Modern Family which was mockumentary style and it was never acknowledged why they were talking to the camera.
I get that it could probably be edited better but I might be in the minority who liked it.
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LaurenSophie
September 8, 2022 at 5:34 PM
I didn't mind it, either. I thought it was a fairly efficient way to introduce the basics of each character to us and give us a sense of their personality and quirks. There were other things about the first episode that I didn't love, but the breaking of the fourth wall wasn't one of them.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 8, 2022 at 9:26 PM
Some american dramas break the 4th wall so it's not a big deal to me. I was kinda surprised the first time it happened in there show (since it happened in a Korean drama) but I got used to it soon.
I think it's fun.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
September 8, 2022 at 9:57 PM
The problem wasn't the breaking of the fourth wall, that's fine.
They weren't just breaking the fourth wall by monologuing their back stories to us. They were answering questions. Which means they weren't talking to us at all, they were talking to some invisible interviewer. Where were those questions coming from? Who were they talking to?
The drama wasn't filmed in a mockumentary style - it even had flashbacks in it. Unless they took the film crew on a tour of their memories.
Are they in a documentary? Are they being interviewed for some reason? And if it's nobody then as a conceit it's just annoying.
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17 OldLawyer
September 8, 2022 at 3:29 PM
Like Daebakgrits I was very put off by the initial courtroom scenes. Unprofessional does not even begin to describe the behavior of our Leading Lady.
Let me explain. There is a reason we call it 'court': Originally people took their dispute directly to their king or, if this was a crime, the miscreant was hauled before the king. Problem: Too many cases for one poor king to handle as there were not enough hours in the day for this. Solution- the king appointed judges to handle this task for him- but it was still the same as if you were going to court to speak to the king.
Once all the parties were there how was the matter to be decided? By everyone yelling at each other and the loudest one wins? That is not an accurate way to determine the truth of the matter. Very early on, as in thousands of years ago, it became obvious that first, people should be talking to the king (or judge) and not to each other and second, everyone should be given a full opportunity to speak without interruption.
The second time I saw the FL do this I turned to my wife and said "and this is where the head judge would throw his gavel right at her head" or at least he would have wanted to. Which is why that behavior is so inexplicable: Pissing off the judge will never, ever help your client.
Also, no counsel has authority to actually halt witness testimony- another thing which I saw in these scenes. You can say thank you in an attempt to get the witness to stop BUT do not be shocked if the judge does not ask the witness to continue, given that you have just highlighted for him or her that there is likely more to the story. Judges tend not to be stupid.
The contrast between these opening scenes and what we saw in EXTRAORDINARY ATTORNEY WOO could not be starker. Sure, a lot of what we saw in EAW was oversimplified and it was not always spot on accurate- but so much of the basics were done right. The writers of EAW had excellent expert advice. The writer of this show desperately needs help on this stuff.
Much of the rest of the first episode was entertaining although it was also somewhat confusing raised a lot of questions about the pasts of our protagonists. We are still watching to see how it all goes from here.
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18 Toodlepip
September 8, 2022 at 3:51 PM
Thanks @daebakgrits! I liked this overall. A little too much filler for my liking, but I like the main couple and I think the potential for a good drama is there if they don't mess it up.
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soulsearch12
September 9, 2022 at 10:05 PM
"I like the main couple and I think the potential for a good drama is there if they don't mess it up."
This is what I say for 99% of shows lol. But no really, there's potential here. The actors have chemistry, the characters are distinct, and there's more surrounding the story that links the two together. First-week episodes can be hard to do well, so I give shows the benefit of a doubt to get it together in the second week. Ngl, some shows I was meh on for a good chunk and then mid-way through I found myself loving it so I guess we will see!
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19 ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
September 8, 2022 at 5:48 PM
These episodes, especially the second episode, were incredibly clunky and all-over-the-place writing wise. It felt like they threw every single story beat common across dramas from the last few years and hoped for the best. I could have done without most of them. Particularly the one that has Lee Seung-gi secretly plotting to take down his maternal family’s conglomeration via the power of webtoons or whatever that was. That was weird.
However, I still didn’t hate it. I have mixed feelings, for sure, but I did like the leads together during their scenes and the contrasts between their personalities. I like that the FL, despite her flightiness and avant garde ideas, is actually competent at her job and just as much of a geeenius as her male counterpart (for now, dramas have an irritating habit of de-empowering female leads). Lee Se-young is fun to watch and my god, she is just absolutely drop-dead gorgeous. And her fashion choices are fabulous as well. I normally don’t care for the trope of someone being unconditionally in love with someone for decades, but I totally get Jung-ho - like I get it. I just wish he’d tone down the dickishness a bit.
So overall, I didn’t love it. I didn’t hate it. It’s right in the middle and that’s a little disappointing given my high expectations, but I’m not dropping it (yet).
P.S. WHERE IS KIM SEUL-GI? WHY DID SHE ONLY HAVE LIKE TWO SECONDS OF SCREENTIME??
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ladynightshade wants her own ryu sunjae
September 8, 2022 at 5:51 PM
Oh, I completely forgot to write about the fourth wall breaks. Controversial opinion here, but I actually liked it. I found it fairly efficient and entertaining.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 8, 2022 at 9:29 PM
OMG YES we need to talk about her fashion. GORGEOUS.
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Britney
September 9, 2022 at 11:42 AM
I liked her outfits. The hot pink blazer with the thin black choker stands out to me. Almost makes me wonder if I could pull her looks but she's way bolder than me haha
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
September 10, 2022 at 12:20 PM
I liked the turtleneck blouse with colorful daisies. She looked so good.
Maybe you could try, who knows, maybe you rock it too.
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OldLawyer
September 10, 2022 at 12:28 PM
Our Leading Lady would like good in anything. She absolutely rocked the hanboks in RED SLEEVE CUFF.
It was not her attire that attracted my ire.
bbstl 🧹
September 9, 2022 at 5:31 PM
Looooove her wardrobe 👍🏼
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20 beffels
September 8, 2022 at 9:43 PM
I’m having mixed feelings about this. I like all the ingredients and webtoon-y things like breaking the fourth wall don’t put me off, but it feels a bit like the timing is weird. Like it’s not as zippy as it thinks it is so things don’t quite land.
I’m enjoying tracksuited Lee Seung Gi quite a lot and I liked episode 2 better than episode 1, so I’m hoping that’s a good sign. I think basically I’m a bit disappointed because I wanted awesome and got acceptable-but-not-amazing.
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Britney
September 8, 2022 at 10:55 PM
I actually agree with you about the timing.
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21 Rose
September 9, 2022 at 4:24 AM
Hi everyone!
Tbh, I didn't read the recap, cause I don't want the story to get spoiled, I'm actually here to ask if you recommend this show, or it's just another friends who act like enemies, to lovers, kind of drama :D
Thank you in advance :)
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 9, 2022 at 10:40 PM
I think it’s one you will need to watch the first four to decide if it’s one for you. It is many things in one so the enemy to lovers trope is just one element. If you like or dislike one of the other elements that will probably influence your decision. I don’t think the pacing was that great in the first two episodes.
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Rose
September 10, 2022 at 2:33 AM
Thank you for your help ^_^
I think I will finish the two dramas I'm already watching, and meanwhile, this one will proceed and then I decide if I'm going to watch it or not :D
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 10, 2022 at 3:07 AM
Good plan, no need to rush in to it.
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22 Deeja
September 9, 2022 at 7:03 AM
So what's the conclusion of the noise that Yu Ri heard above her cafe at night? Who or what make the noise? I'm really curious about that. No one seems to keen to investigate what's happening up there although I thought the previous renter also heard the same thing..
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beffels
September 9, 2022 at 11:59 AM
I’m curious about this too. I’m going to go with it’s not actually a ghost 😅 but that’s as far as I can guess.
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Reply1988 -❣️Mother Bean❣️
September 9, 2022 at 10:43 PM
I think it’s going to be similar issues to the apartment block it’s noise travelling from someone who is living rent free in the property who uses that gap between the floors to travel around the building.
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23 bbstl 🧹
September 9, 2022 at 5:33 PM
ooooof. Major 🍝🍝🍝
I will give it 2 more chances only because it’s @daebakgrits.
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DaebakGrits
September 9, 2022 at 6:48 PM
Awwww, don't force yourself on my account! <3
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bbstl 🧹
September 9, 2022 at 6:50 PM
Well, we will see. I may have to throw this under the TOD.
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24 soulsearch12
September 9, 2022 at 9:46 PM
I was anticipating this show since I heard LSY was attached, and I was intrigued and a bit hmm about LSG+LSY pairing. Well, watching the first two episodes, I feel the chemistry already. They are well matched; I was a bit taken aback, lol. They were cute on A Korean Odyssey, but here there was banter and natural kinship spark. These are essential attributes to have in a romantic comedy.
I was worried because the comments ranged from ok to not good. But having finished Episode 2, there's already a clear storyline aside from the romance. If it was just focused on the romance, it might make things set up quickly, and all were left with is filler for the eventual
finale.
Here, the motivation that both have for the same cause helps. Her family and him as well, but from his father's side as the case
prosecutor. I like that they revealed that in Episode 2, so we can move on to the larger story of the two teaming up. I like that I had somewhat of a feel of what will transpire.
One thing, in the original synopsis and webtoon, LSY's character Yu-ri is a former Miss. Korea. What happened to that? Unless the show will introduce that as a throwaway later on? I kinda was stoked to see a Korean Legally Blonde, aka Miss. Korea turned lawyer here. But it seems that part has been omitted, weirdly. Certainly, LSY fits that; she's always been stunning, but that post-TRS glow on her is scrumptious! She's radiating to watch on screen, and she reminds me of Lee Young Ae the more she's matured.
Also, her fashion is distinct but fits her role. I wonder if they'll do the Kdrama thing of making the female lead's fashion tamer as she gets calmer. I hope they don't tame that trait of Yu-ri; I like that she's more forward than our stoic ML. I'll check back mid-week and see if they took away her unique traits cause I hope not!! Those unique traits are what makes a character memorable!! Also, our ML is a bit overpowered between the photographic memory, webtoon artist, and former prosecutor.
One quibble, not into the fourth wall breaking. Doesn't happen too much/take too much time away rn but I hope they lessen that as the show progresses. As the plot gets deeper, we'll see less of that. Also,
not into the 2nd ML (the guy friend); I like the actor in other roles before this one. But I feel his characterization here is a bit awkward like it's a bit try-hard with the aeygo. Also, minor Kim Seulgi is a bit of a disappointment; when I heard these actors as the 2nd leads, I had an inkling that we would see more of our ML/FLs since they're the bigger names. For being school besties, they don't seem like there besties minus the wedding scene where they bawled lol.
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25 Amazing Grace
September 10, 2022 at 12:45 AM
Watch both eps, it's not funny nor comical nor charismatic to see fl behaviour in court, drama looks like taken from various drama and put them together, seen track suit used in various drama too. Dislike the monologue, the sound at night - not spooky at all and did landlord never investigate since previous tenant heard it too. Before 2nd ep ends, drop it, acting, directing, writing not interesting. No hate, just not my liking.
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26 soulsearch12
September 10, 2022 at 10:47 PM
Also, I liked the actors (the besties of the ML/FL) in other roles, but their comedic acting isn't doing it for me, sadly. I think as the show progresses, they will get more airtime, but it feels like the stereotypical cardboard sassy 2nd leads who are only there as backgrounds.
Nothing wrong with that, I guess, but I do feel like Good Job does a better job with the 2nd leads in that show. The comedy there by the 2nd leads in Good Job feel natural, whereas the comedy done here by these 2nd leads feels forced.
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27 darwi
September 12, 2022 at 11:48 AM
Yay for a bickering couple.
I have not seen Our beloved summer, so the interviews made me think of Lovestrunk in the city (which is not a good reference as this was a meh drama despite my eternal love for Ji Chang Wook).
The FL is a bit overthetop, and I hope that it is only for the first episodes as it is often.
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