Extraordinary Attorney Woo: Episodes 1-2
by Unit
What’s better than an ordinary attorney? An extraordinary one! And that’s the perfect descriptor for our heroine, who sets out on this extraordinary journey to overcome prejudices and break stereotypes. So buckle up for the ride, people, we are going along with her.
EPISODES 1-2 WEECAP
Welcome to the world of our heroine WOO YOUNG-WOO (Park Eun-bin), and in this world, she’s the first-ever autistic attorney in Korea! Young-woo is a huge lover of whales, has a closet more organized than my life, and I love her already.
We meet her on her first day at the law firm Hanbada, and from the looks of it, no one was expecting the new hire to be on the spectrum. Except, of course, CEO HAN SEON-YOUNG (Baek Ji-won) – who was a college junior to Young-woo’s dad WOO KWANG-HO (Jeon Bae-Soo) – and fellow attorney CHOI SU-YEON (Ha Yoo-kyung) who was Young-woo’s law school classmate.
Young-woo’s first hurdle at work is the skepticism of her immediate boss, JUNG MYEONG-SEOK (Kang Ki-young), who immediately assigns her on a case to test out her skills. And Young-woo doesn’t exactly win herself brownie points with him when she pictures the evidence in the case (an iron) as a sperm whale, and launches into an impromptu seminar on sperm whales. Lol. I suspect this whale gag is going to be a running one, and I look forward to more.
Anyway, back to our first case, the client is a woman in her seventies who is charged with attempted murder after hitting her irrationally jealous husband on the head with an iron. Young-woo recognizes the client as the wife of the landlord of her childhood home, who was always nice to her despite her husband’s semi-violent nature, and his erroneous insinuation of an affair between his wife and Young-woo’s dad.
Young-woo is told to get the client off on probation, but she states that the client should be gotten off for bodily harm rather than attempted murder. Her reason being that in future when the husband dies, the client won’t be able to inherit his pension or their house if she’s convicted of his attempted murder (as opposed to bodily harm).
Myeong-seok is quite impressed with her reasoning, and tells her to proceed with this. He also apologizes for his initial attitude towards her, and that’s just great because I don’t have it in me to dislike a Kang Ki-young character.
Still on the case, Young-woo is accompanied by attorney LEE JUN-HO (Kang Tae-oh) to visit the client at the hospital, and her husband explodes after learning that Young-woo is the daughter of their former tenant. Sigh. Am I a bad person if I wish the iron had hit him a little harder? The client also says she wishes she had killed her husband instead, but Young-woo is able to see past the client’s frustration to know that she actually cares about the husband.
Myeong-seok decides to proceed on the case with a jury trial, and attorney KWON MIN-WOO (Joo Jong-hyuk) volunteers to give the arguments at the trial since Young-woo might have difficulties speaking to the jury because of her disability. But Young-woo is quick to shut down his “help” and would rather use the disability as a leverage to evoke the emotions of the potential jury. Atta girl!
The trial kicks off, and just as the jury is buying into Young-woo’s argument of the husband being a verbally abusive man – thanks to him lashing out at her again from the witness stand in court — he unfortunately dies on the way back to the hospital, and her client’s charge is changed from attempted murder to murder. Yikes!
But this doesn’t throw Young-woo off course. Instead, she fits all the pieces of the case together to prove that the husband died from a pre-existing condition rather than the hit from the iron. Hence, the grateful client is found not guilty of murder and is let off with a probation for bodily harm. Yaay!
After successfully wrapping up her first case, it’s on to the next for Young-woo, and this time, it’s the case of a wedding dress that slipped off. Yep, you read that right. A couple marches down the aisle at their dream hotel wedding, the bride gets distracted, trips, and her strapless dress slips down to expose her goodies to the guests. And though the groom does his best to cover the front, he can’t hide the tattoo of a Bodhisattva on her back – which isn’t so bad, except she’s supposed to be a Christian. Heh.
The next course of action by the bride’s father is to sue the hotel (owned by the groom’s family btw) for the humiliation, and he names his pride as worth over a billion won. Hanbada doesn’t think he can get up to that amount in compensation, but when he mentions that his business is dominant in a competing law firm, CEO Han gets all competitive and vows to get the compensation the other law firm couldn’t get for him.
Myeong-seok and his team are assigned to the case, and to glean information, he dispatches Min-woo and Su-yeon to the hotel to play an undercover couple, and then Young-woo and Jun-ho to the affected couple. But Su-yeon, who has a little crush on Jun-ho, wants to switch places, and Young-woo agrees.
Jun-ho and Su-yeon are on their way to the hotel to play the undercover couple, when Young-woo calls Jun-ho (who is now her whale discussion buddy) with some questions, but Su-yeon doesn’t appreciate the interruption. Jun-ho doesn’t seem to mind much, but Young-woo needs to slow down with the barrage of whale talks at this point.
Unfortunately, Su-yeon comes down with the toilet runs and can’t make it to the dress fitting, so Young-woo takes back her rightful place as Jun-ho’s bride. She looks so breathtaking in the wedding dress, I think Jun-ho already fell in love with her on the spot. Lol.
Thanks to Su-yeon eavesdropping from the toilet, they find out a hotel employee was sacked over the wedding dress issue, and Jun-ho persuades a colleague of hers to testify in court. According to the testimony, the sacked employee mistakenly tore the original wedding dress, but rather than admit the truth, the bride was given another dress in the same design but of a slightly bigger size, hence the reason it came off loose at the ceremony.
But it’s not a win for Hanbada yet, because the hotel’s attorneys dig up an online post made by the bride where she confesses her relief at the outcome of the ceremony, and her eventual hopes for the engagement to be called off. Apparently, she’s not into the groom and only went ahead with the arrangement because her father wanted to be in-laws with a chaebol family.
With this, Hanbada’s argument that the bride suffers PTSD from the ceremony no longer serves as basis for compensation from the hotel. But when the bride mentions that the groom’s grandpa promised to gift her land in a choice location after the wedding, Young-woo flips the compensation argument around. This time, their claim is that since the marriage was hinged on that promise and she couldn’t go through with the wedding due to the hotel’s negligence, the hotel should compensate for the loss of the land.
Of course, the bride’s father is delighted with this new argument, but the bride doesn’t share the same opinion. So she withdraws the lawsuit at the next court appearance. Her reason? She’s done with her father being very oblivious about her life. She reveals she’s Buddhist, not a Christian, neither is she straight. And with her newfound confidence, she marches out of the courtroom with her girlfriend while her father has a mini heart attack. Lol.
The whole wedding saga has Young-woo thinking about her future, and she admits to her dad that she probably won’t be able to get married because of her autism. But, she says if she does get married, she’s definitely giving her bouquet to daddy dearest as she’d like to see her single father get married after she does. Awwww.
As the episode comes to a close, news about Hanbada’s counter argument reaches the ears of the CEO of the competition, TAE SOO-MI (Jin Kyung), and with a seemingly special interest, she takes note of the name of the rookie behind the argument: Woo Young-woo.
I really love the opening week of this drama, and Park Eun-bin is totally endearing as Young-woo. I’m always skeptical about the portrayal of disabilities in dramaland because they can come off as caricature characters, but I’m genuinely impressed with how the show handles Young-woo. I find her surprisingly mature, with social skills that are even better than I expected. Plus she’s really in tune with her emotions, and very capable as a lawyer!
The case of the episode format is just right up my alley, as I prefer legal dramas with quickly resolved cases rather than those unnecessarily dragged out ones. I also appreciate how the team doesn’t treat Young-woo with kid gloves or dismiss her opinions, and it’s nice to see them slowly form a bond. Of course Young-woo’s got more to learn as she grows as a lawyer, and there’ll be times she will stumble, but with her mindset and the support system she has around her, I have almost no doubts that she will be able to handle whatever life throws her way.
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Tags: Baek Ji-won, Extraordinary Attorney Woo, first episodes, Jeon Bae-soo, Jin Kyung, Kang Ki-young, Kang Tae-oh, Park Eun-bin
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1 tabong is ironing the crosswalk
July 1, 2022 at 6:45 PM
Two episodes and he already fell in love with her! I know, our boy is ready to get married. This is my kind of drama. 😂 No more "do you like Messi" or "Brahms"-badum tss-, here whales are the wingmen and they have done half of their job in the first week. Whales rock.
I smell a (back story) love triangle between the two CEOs and Woo's dad. And one of those women gotta be the ML's/FL's mom... Maybe they're siblings? Makjang style? LOL
So yeah, I love the show ^^ my only complain is that there isn't enough Kang Ki Young.
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books7time
July 1, 2022 at 7:21 PM
Wingman whales, who knew?
And there never is enough Kang Ki Young. 😉
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lapislazulii
July 1, 2022 at 7:57 PM
seconding (thirding?) the call for more Kang Kiyoung - he's a delight!!
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OldLawyer
July 2, 2022 at 9:47 PM
We were told that Young-woo's father is a widower so, unless that was a serious head fake we are talking about the other law firm's CEO probably being the mother of our ML.
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jerrykuvira
July 3, 2022 at 12:01 AM
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
July 3, 2022 at 7:29 AM
You're probably right, a big birth secret doesn't suit this drama.
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BW
July 6, 2022 at 8:01 AM
The landlord lady said Young-woo's father was a widower. But later in the episode, Young-woo says her father has never been married, and if she gets married, she'l give him her bouquet so he'll be the next to get married.
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2 books7time
July 1, 2022 at 7:19 PM
I have been eagerly waiting for this recap. Thank you, @unit!
I am utterly charmed by these characters and especially Park Eun Bi's Woo Young Woo. I have been impressed by her acting in all her projects and this one really is extraordinary. I look forward to a joyful drama run.
The opening sequence and use of whales to include us in her world really sets an almost fairy-tale tone and her perspective is realized so beautifully. I was surprised at not only how laugh-out-loud funny the humor is , but also how tender and compassionate the writing is. That waltz through the revolving door! I think I had a smile the whole time.
Other than Woo Young, my favorite character has got to be her boss (Kang Ki Young as the comedic straight man is genius) because his reactions are just gold and through he objected at first, he quickly appreciated her value on the team.
I don't know how romance heavy this will be, but I love that Jun Ho has already fallen and his compassion from the very start endeared him to me. Kang Tae Ho had me in RUN ON and I am very happy to see him again. For right now, he is a good friend/receiver of all facts about whales that Woo Young needs. Their budding friendship is adorable.
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ar_arguably romantic
July 2, 2022 at 6:59 AM
I loved how when he used the word "ordinary" (lawyers who don't have autism as the norm versus a lawyer with autism), he apologized, realizing that the word could be microaggressive.
I've already fallen in love with Kang Tae Ho in Run-on, but the way he is helpful without doing a double-take or overthinking it or being patronizing, is incredibly charming here.
I also hate those types of motion-sensored revolving doors. Give me one that I can push myself!
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3 lapislazulii
July 1, 2022 at 7:56 PM
HAHAH two attorneys at a top law firm, standing around a revolving door knowing that the other is waiting for someone and not putting two and two together gave me a good giggle. The little waltz bit was so cute too, Kang Taeoh stop coming after my heart like that 😍
To stop this from turning into a full blown KTO fan post- re: actual show, I really liked it! I was sceptical at first, won’t lie, of the premise so was 50-50 on watching in it but I’m glad I did. Firstly, Park Eunbin is an absolute delight - I love her to bits - and equally proving he deserves all the appreciation in the world is Kang Kiyoung (my serotonin goes up instantly every time he's in a drama and this one is no exception it seems). I don't even know when or at what point the show made its way into my heart but I was surprised at just how invested I was by the end of episode 2. It's also a nice change to have a legal drama that's anchored by more heartwarming elements and less melodrama, given the recent run of Vengeful Lawyer shows 😂
Also as a long time BTS ARMY, the first thought that popped into my mind when the whale was flying alongside the train was Whalien 52 💜 hahaha I love it when my worlds collide!
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books7time
July 1, 2022 at 9:58 PM
Hi, fellow ARMY! I had the a similar thought when I saw the whale. I am actually curious how/when/why the whale became Young Woo's spirit animal.
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lapislazulii
July 1, 2022 at 10:41 PM
YAY & hello 💕 ! And yes me too actually, very curious to find out where the whale thing came from!
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jerrykuvira
July 3, 2022 at 3:01 PM
The padiatric doctor's office in episode 1. She was enchanted by the hanging whales. Seeing that she spoke for the first time after that experience...maybe it then became her avatar.
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books7time
July 5, 2022 at 11:46 PM
Oh, duh. Thank you for reminding me.
LiSsi
July 6, 2022 at 11:24 AM
Whalien 52 :-) And hello fellow Armys! Do I have to watch the show for the whales?? I had more or less decided to sit this one out, but I guess I should give it a try...
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4 joyce
July 1, 2022 at 10:03 PM
As a late diagnosed autistic at 28, I’m hesitant to watch any show related to autism because they are always portrayed innaccurately. I had no idea I was autistic since I lived a “normal” life for so long. I only got diagnosed when work life got too stressful, I was a mess and normal coping mechanisms weren’t working.
Technically I was diagnosed with Level 1 autism or low support autism which means I have a high IQ and no intellectual disabilitie. Therefore, I am able to hold down a job, live independently and mask well enough that people can’t tell I have it. I’m also social enough that I have a very supportive friend group and I dated a “normal” or neurotypical person for 10 years so autistics can definitely be in relationships. Our relationship didn’t last because he was emotionally abusive and it was hard to leave… but I do want to break a stereotype that its hard for some of us to find love. One of my autistic female friends is married and I know of other autistic women who are in healthy married relationships. Women on the spectrum are supposedly better at reading people well by their tone of voice and body language. Sometimes it does go over our heads and we can’t read it well… like I have missed times when it got tense in my friend group… anyways I digress.
I honestly haven’t watched this yet, because I’m scared to see whether they exagerated the symptoms. I did not like “Its Okay Not to be Okay” and stopped watching because the autistic brother was so cringe. I kept yelling at the TV at how unrealistic the portrayal was.
I do love Park Eun-Bin and love that the character is a female lawyer so I may give it a shot. Most autistics on TV are usually men so I do appreciate that. I also follow a few autistic female lawyers on instagram.
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Leavesthatfall
July 1, 2022 at 10:15 PM
“I find her surprisingly mature, with social skills that are even better than I expected. Plus she’s really in tune with her emotions, and very capable as a lawyer!”
I’m not sure how to take this comment… I see it as you complimenting her character complexity because of the way she written as an autistic character, but I also can’t tell if you’re surprised because autistics are stereotypically poor at social skills and understanding their emotions.
I forgot to log in when I first wrote that comment, but I also wanted to add I found this statement offensive because a lot of autistics are emotionally aware and can be great at handling social situations. Thats why its called “autism spectrum disorder”. We are very sensitive bunch. We grow and adapt to social situations when we get older and become adults, but childhood was just harder because social situations and our reactions to certain issues didn’t make sense.
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Ally
July 1, 2022 at 10:34 PM
This comment is not for you, but I’m just putting it here if you want to add from your own experience. Most females with autism do such a good job adapting to and modeling their environment that it does take them sometimes decades to be diagnosed. A lot of them look totally neurotypical. This character has pretty obvious (albeit somewhat stereotypical) signs she’s on the spectrum, but I think the show needs to exaggerate these characteristics for the general lay audience to understand what it is. Also, it is rare that someone who is totally non-verbal at 5 years old can go on and find a “normal” career (which is what she was). And there’s some savant tendencies that the show is using (the fact she can memorize books of criminal law at 5 years old) to show us why she can be a successful lawyer. So she’s really an autistic savant, which is super rare and that’s what makes her extraordinary.
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Leavesthatfall
July 1, 2022 at 11:17 PM
Yeah it is rare. One of my classmates in college was autistic and didnt speak until she was 8. I noticed she used a lot big/complex words and now shes in tech. A year ago, I was in an autistic support group and one of them was an autistic woman in her 40s who was non-verbal until she was 12. But she spoke very eloquently, and went to college late because she didn’t know what she wanted. She started off as a tattoo artist since was a very visual person and she one of her sensory pleasures was pain. She ended up getting her PhD in psychology so she can assist other autistics and parents on the spectrum. One point she stressed in the group was that even though they are non-verbal it doesnt mean they dont understand what everyone is saying or doing. She was always aware she had the privilege of having parents who were also psychologists. She also has an adult autistic non-verbal daughter who she always advocates for bc she is smart and is looked down on bc she depends on a machine for typing to communicate w others.
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ilovecoffee&rain
July 2, 2022 at 10:19 PM
"One of my classmates in college was autistic and didnt speak until she was 8"
Hi, I just wanted to know something regarding my niece. She is 5 years old but is yet to speak properly. She does everything properly except speak. Sne only uses 1 or 2 words like ma, baba & good night. The doctor said that she's in the autism spectrum but she is not autistic. Is there a way to know if she will talk in the future? I mean how did your friend start to speak, if you don't mind me asking.
Yn00na
July 3, 2022 at 2:35 AM
To ilovecoffee&rain, I have a lot of dealing with early childhood therapist due to my son condition and my advise would be to see support from Speech Phatologist (SP). Regardless if your niece is on the spectrum or not, an SP will be able to provide strategies to help with her speech delay.
Unit
July 2, 2022 at 1:40 AM
Oh! I didn't mean to come off as offensive with that statement. It was intended as a compliment because Young-woo is written and portrayed better than a lot of the autistic characters I've seen on TV.
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Leavesthatfall
July 2, 2022 at 11:56 PM
@unit Oh thanks for clearing that up! I am pretty sensitive and tend to overthink especially because of how innacurate autistic people are potrayed on television and media.
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Leavesthatfall
July 3, 2022 at 12:07 AM
@ilovecoffe&rain What the doctor said makes no sense at all. She’s on the autism spectrum but not autistic? Those terms are interchangeable—at least to me unless the country you’re in has a different diagnostic criteria.
“Is there a way to know if she will talk in the future”
I have no idea. I actually never asked them… Some nonverbal autistics stay non verbal throughout their whole lives and communicate through sign language or writing.
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5 Ally
July 1, 2022 at 10:18 PM
I don’t know what I was expecting because I had no intention of watching a “legal” drama. I definitely wasn’t expecting a nuanced show about someone on the autism spectrum who has an eidetic memory, a love interest for this differently-abled person, and Park Eun Bin playing this role to perfection. Because I’m smitten, through and through. I like how we’re taking different cases every episode and showing off our extraordinary lawyer’s skills. And I’ve liked Kang Tae Ho since Run On. His face when she saw her in that wedding dress was so good. I hope it stays fresh and real. I have a colleague who is married to a woman on the spectrum and like Young-woo, it’s pretty obvious when you meet her. I hope they get the romance part of this right. I’ve met her in a couple social situations and one was a large dinner for physicians and their spouses where she thanked him in public for loving and “dealing” with her. I cried. Because she shouldn’t have needed to do that. To apologize for being the way she was. Anyway, I’m looking forward to what’s ahead for Attorney Woo!
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6 geminirat
July 1, 2022 at 10:51 PM
Thank you, @unit, for the weecap! I like it that Jun-ho already understood Young-woo even on their first meeting at the revolving doors of the building. And he was very patient with her, which would mean he has some background with autistic people. Love the interaction between Young-woo and her father, too!
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books7time
July 2, 2022 at 7:23 AM
I am curious about his background as well. Is he naturally compassionate or does his actions reflect experience?
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7 Nefret
July 1, 2022 at 11:54 PM
Warm-hearted. That was the word that first came to mind after the first episodes.
I went into this series with no great expectations. Even with a little scepticism about whether I would want to watch 16 episodes if the subject matter was possibly too depressing. But I didn't expect the lightness with which the subject is treated and yet with enough respect.
To what extent Park Eun-bin appropriately portrays an autistic person I cannot judge, I have had too little contact with autistic people for that.
Lee Jun-ho is pure gold, almost too perfect to be true. I admired him for how long he managed to hold conversations about whales.
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redfox
July 3, 2022 at 12:22 AM
Jun Ho actually looked like someone else WASN´T talking to him I don´t know... sort of seems like WYW is a "way out" of some situation, an escape. perhaps he indeed has an unresponsive sibling...
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8 sunnysaturdays
July 2, 2022 at 12:21 AM
Woo Young woo is literally looking for any opportunity to talk about whales. The " What if the situation calls for whale talk" question just took me out every time. I hope that the show actually gives her a case involving whales. Keep Woo Young woo happy is my only request.
As for Lee jun ho, the poor boy never stood a chance. Park eun bin in that wedding dress was truly a magnificent sight. He's going to be in a one sided love for a while because he barely registers on her romantic radar.
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ys
July 3, 2022 at 9:26 PM
But does Junho want to be on her romantic radar? When he was telling Suyeon about his whale conversations, in the morning scene when he’s brushing his teeth and taking Youngwoo’s call, we see Minwoo in the mirror.
There’s been no interaction to show us that Junho and Minwoo are buddies and roommates, so I took that to be the show’s way of telling us that the two are in a relationship. That made sense to me, how Junho has been completely unaffected by the attention he gets from women, the one who gave him chocolates, others who gave him sweets that he just puts in his drawers, and Suyeon.
Then Junho gives heart eyes in that wedding dress scene?? Very confusing, because showing Junho and Minwoo in the same apartment in the morning getting ready to go to work doesn’t seem to be a throw-away scene.
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ys
July 8, 2022 at 10:15 AM
Turns out Junho and Minwoo are roommates, platonic ones. Pooh.
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9 Kurama
July 2, 2022 at 1:05 AM
I loved these 2 episodes!
Baek Ji-won is way better boss for Park Eun-Bin than in Do You Like Brahms!
Woo Young-Woo was cute and her passion for whales is very funny. It's me or the writer just put sperm whale everywhere when it looks she was talking abour more than one type of whale? In French, sperm whale is cachalot, the one who see when she was in the metro was a baleine bleue.
I like her relationship with her father. (he's way better father than in Love All Play :p).
Lee Jun-Ho is nice and it doesn't looke like pity or a way to use her.
I was happy to see that Woo Young-Woo's colleagues are not completely jerks, they're skeptical but none of them dismissed her. They gave some good advices, Jun-Ho set up boundaries about talking about whales and Young-Woo listenned and remembered what Min-Woo said about their client's relationship with her father.
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OldLawyer
July 2, 2022 at 9:55 PM
I was wondering when someone would pick up on the fact that Baek Jiwon also played Park Eunbin's boss in BRAHM'S- a very manipulative one.
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10 hanana
July 2, 2022 at 2:05 AM
Hi actually autistic person here!
I went into this show pretty sceptical after watching the teaser, but after about 5 minutes I was pretty much in love.
Seeing a female autistic character is pretty rare, and watching as young woo went about her life was amazing to me and it was clear the writers had done their research. from little things like not liking labels on clothes to needing her food to be pretty restricted, to bigger things like her hyper-fixation then info-dumping about said hyper-fixation were pretty fun to see as I often don't see characters I can relate to as much. Also watching how her logic jumped from a to f and other characters struggling to keep up with how her mind worked was hilarious and painfully relatable to see.
Part of my love for the show is in no small part due to my adoration of park eun bin and she does a pretty good job as a presumed neurotypical person playing a non-neurotypical, she walks like her body doesn't really listen to her in the way most peoples do and her stimming is done without seeming caricaturist. she plays the character with an unsurety of how to act in a world that isn't exactly made for her but still has a confidence in who she is and she goes about her life. Autism typically comes with a pretty strong sense of justice and her love of the law and finding the best outcome for the people she defends was lovely to see.
that being said my only criticism of the show is how they made young woo talk quite childishly, I obviously don't have much experience with autistic people in Korea but I know that most autistic people who speak English typically talk like the people around them (in my experience some can tend to sound a bit more childish when over stimulated though) but I also understand that on tv land characteristics are kind of exaggerated so I can mostly forgive the show for it lol.
I really hope they don't go the sick kid halo route, it can be easy when you deal with savant issues to have a character like this (especially with such an innate sense of justice) put on a pedestal. but the show so far has managed to toe the line of keeping woo young woo as a character you want to root for without making her too "perfect" and reminding the viewers that while she may be different she is still a human being and I hope that the drama continues this throughout its run and I can't wait to keep watching!
obviously I don't speak for all autistic people but I definitely enjoyed the drama and I can't wait to keep watching!
Also here's a quick terms to use and not use (if anyone else wants to add please do!)
please do:
autism (spectrum disorder)/asd - can be used interchangeably to describe the condition
neurotypical/non-neurotypical - neurotypical is the label those with no known brain disorders
please don't:
aspergers - while some still may call it that it is antiquated name for those with and - i hate to use this term - "high functioning autism" also the guy who was its...
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Alluvial_Fan
July 2, 2022 at 3:54 AM
May I add? You used the word "stimming in your wonderful comment. It is a contraction of "self stimulation" which serves as a calming body movement pattern. I am not an expert but taught in elementary schools clustered around a national laboratory in the US. Many scientists and their offspring are on the spectrum.
Grade school is tough on many children but for those on the spectrum it can be especially so. It is a fine line to walk for a teacher when helping students establish behavior boundaries in the hubbub of a classroom. The kindness and compassion of the ML character tells me that somebody on the writing team has a sibling or close friend with asd.
Loving this show and even happier that it is appreciated by non-neurotypical Beanies.
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hanana
July 2, 2022 at 4:43 PM
my apologies long time lurker first time poster didn't realise there was a character limit T-T
but yeah the namesake of asperger syndrome was a pretty bad guy (quick wikipedia search will tell you why
the labels high functioning/low functioning are seen - at least in the uk - as pretty derogatory as there is no way to be more or less autistic you just are. autism spectrum disorder is not a linear line and you fit on it at the 'severity' of your symptoms, it's more like a buffet of symptoms and everyone has different amounts on their plates but still fit under the umbrella of autism
also please do not use autism speaks as a resource its honestly been nothing but detrimental to the autistic community since its inception
good resources/websites (in my opinion) to use are;
autistica
divergentminds
autisticadvocacy
quick side note: the majority of the autistic community prefers to say that they -are- autistic rather than they -have- autism
anyway sorry for the info-dumping lol but happy watching and I cant wait for the next episodes!!
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dramadillo
July 2, 2022 at 5:13 PM
Thank you so much for sharing, hanana! I often wonder about the portrayal of autism in dramas, and whether it is respectfully and accurately done. Some of my favourite dramas in recent years have featured non-neurotypical characters (It’s Okay to Not be Okay, Move to Heaven and the non-Korean show, Atypical), so I appreciate being able to better understand the correct terminology and symptoms, and also having recommended resources to go to for more information.
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OldLawyer
July 2, 2022 at 10:14 PM
I for one like that we are now using better terminology and understanding of the autistic. I loved THE GOOD DOCTOR but hated the idea that he had to be pronounced 'cured' of his autism to be able to practice medicine, as if he had a disease. The autistic do not have a disorder as such (although some do suffer from other disorders)- they are simply wired differently from most people. The neurotypical - non-neurotypical distinction captures this beautifully. That different neurology is the reason why many autistic make very good scientists, engineers and programmers.
Of course, we should also remember that the autistic are as distinctly different and individual, one from the other as people who are neurotypical. It is important to avoid stereotypes with them, just as with others.
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Yn00na
July 3, 2022 at 3:53 AM
Rather than thinking if the portrayal of a character to be true or not true, it is best to just think that it is just a small subset of a really wide spectrum of the non-neurotypical community. It will be true for some in some aspect and not true for some in other aspect.
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11 latebloomer
July 2, 2022 at 5:01 AM
Jun-ho has been kind and remarkably perceptive, and not condescending at all, recognizing her palindrome name, seeing the iron as a sperm whale, listening to whale talk, and dancing her through the revolving door. He did look a bit uncomfortable being paired up with Young-woo for the wedding planning interview, so it was fun to see how gobsmacked he was at her beauty. Now he's hesitantly looking for something more than friendship.
But we've also seen Young-woo is uncomfortable with physical affection, so it will be interesting to see how she responds to this opportunity. I think it will be challenging for both of them. I expect some frustration and tears along the way, and the very real possibility it won't work out. Along with the very likely possibility we'll see Young-woo in another wedding dress before the end.
Early in ep. 1 the angry neighbor called Dad a widower. Late in ep. 2 Young-woo said he had never been married. I wonder which is true, and why he gave up law to run a kimbap place if he was so brilliant. Don't tell me running your own business gives you more time to be a parent than being a lawyer.
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ex-beanie
July 2, 2022 at 6:27 AM
In ep 2 when she said that, I think that was out of sheer innocence... her exact words " Because as single father, you've never been married before"
but yes the other option is totally possible given the past with CEO. (one theory: It's very well possible that she's her mother, and they never married, ∴ he left the law - sounds lil absurd but who knows) - I wonder what else would be the reason for CEO to give extra attention to her...
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Zn
July 12, 2022 at 3:12 AM
My guess is telling others you are windowed with a child carries less social stigma than having a child out of wedlock. Asian society especially has too many stereotypes and taboos.
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12 ex-beanie
July 2, 2022 at 6:29 AM
"CEO HAN SEON-YOUNG was a college junior to Young-woo’s dad WOO KWANG-HO" - I totally missed this part, where was this??
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miso
July 2, 2022 at 7:40 AM
She called him sunbae when she met him. His character description says he gave up on being a lawyer after falling in love in college. So college sunbae rather than work sunbae seems a reasonable guess I think.
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ex-beanie
July 2, 2022 at 8:06 AM
ahhh! Now I'm curious about young-woo's mom! Right now it seems CEO could be her mother, but let's see!
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jerrykuvira
July 3, 2022 at 1:21 AM
How she called out 'sunbae' was too endearing, and his aback reaction when he saw her clearly showed history has taken place. Something definitely went down between this two, and my money is on she's Young-woo's mom, or a very dear ex-girlfriend/wife.
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ex-beanie
July 3, 2022 at 7:16 AM
me too for mom!!
If ex-gf, then she must be a very good ex who's being so considerate of her ex's daughter! (but honestly that would be very far fetched, unless she is her own daughter, or she has some first hand experience with a person with ASD -so that would make sense )
13 ar_arguably romantic
July 2, 2022 at 7:31 AM
I loved this set of episodes a lot. And I love how the dad is caring, yet also supportive of her being independent. I was expecting him to be frustrated or overly-protective or overly-worried. I was a little surprised they had Young-woo with more visible and specific signs of having autism (like sensory issues), since there is a whole spectrum (and that spectrum isn't even linear) of autism that could be represented. I'm glad they chose the route that they did.
The moment when the hotel person said "he's totally fallen in love" referencing Jun-ho's reaction to Young-woo in the dress and Young-woo going "did you fall in love?" and smiling had ME falling in love.
The only thing I did noticed was strange was that Young-woo was 5 (korean age; 4 international age) when the possibility of autism was brought up. The people around me who have kids with delayed speech disorders would get it checked out around age 2-3 and also screened for autism. I wonder if that's just the US and Canada.
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FiyaShady
July 2, 2022 at 10:34 AM
Yes, in US and Canada they will have it checked as early as 2-3 years old but not in Asia countries. I have a nephew which just turns 4 and their parents were alert about it just a few days before the boy's birthday. Having him checked by children physician and to accept that the boy might have a mild autism seems like a fatal blow for the family. I kinda felt sad towards my nephew when the whole family around him seems lost on how to help him. It is like a taboo topic for Asia when you are discussing such matters 🥲😥😓.
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miss h
July 2, 2022 at 12:58 PM
There's a Korean actress, Oh Yoon Ah, who has a son with severe autism. She started bringing him out on a cooking show she sometimes appears on a couple years ago and talking about their journey. He was nonverbal, wouldn't meet people's eyes, etc but doctors kept dismissing her concerns. He wasn't diagnosed until he was four or five. He's 15 or 16 now, I think and still mostly nonverbal. She talked about how people would complain about his behavior when she took him anywhere because most families with autistic kids didn't go out often and the topic was pretty taboo. She wanted to raise awareness by bringing him on the show. It was interesting.
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books7time
July 2, 2022 at 7:54 PM
This is very helpful to understand and place this drama in context of S. Korean society and culture. Thank you.
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Yn00na
July 3, 2022 at 2:50 AM
It's interesting that I actually thought she was diagnosed early - being that it would be 15+ years ago when the awareness and support were not like today. I know families that don't seek help till the kids are older than Young-Woo. And that's in today's era in the country that I live , Australia, where the medical support for this is free.
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Goyangi and the Camel Crickets
August 29, 2022 at 5:37 PM
The understanding and diagnosis of ASD has improved in the last decade or so, so when Woo Young Woo was a small child it may have taken longer for specialists to recognize than it does today, even in the US. My daughter is 23 and on the spectrum. Her educators and our family did not figure out that her quirky personality was autism until she was about 9 years old. Autism is so unique to each individual that it's not always obvious.
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14 CDF
July 2, 2022 at 1:09 PM
Okay show, you have my attention!
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15 jerrykuvira
July 3, 2022 at 12:11 AM
Another comedy pill I didn't know I needed. Whales? How? Who said whales can't be comedic effects. Jun-ho's already smitten, besotted 🤤.
Kang Ki-young, more of you please. Haven't seen him since WWWSK and he's nailing it here.
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javinne
July 5, 2022 at 12:14 AM
I think it is also the second time he playing a lawyer.
But by the way, I love the fact that he is more than a manager instead of a lawyer, seeing how he pretend to be teaching the younger ones in order to hide that he doesn't know anymore😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love him
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16 Yn00na
July 3, 2022 at 3:39 AM
I'm so grateful for show like EAW that unashamedly celebrates diversity. I can't believe that in just 2 episodes in and we already features neuro and sexual diversity. There's so much heart in this show and I can't wait for more.
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17 Olivedreams
July 3, 2022 at 4:13 AM
I have dropped a bunch of shows recently…My Love From The Stars, Romance is a Bonus Book and Falling for Innocence so I was thinking about k dramas a break. Then along comes this absolutely delightful gem Extraordinary Attorney Woo. I was a bit skeptical at first as I hoped the character would not be treated as a caricature and far from…she is brilliant, funny and delightfully self aware. Writers, please do not mess this up!
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18 emsel
July 3, 2022 at 5:51 AM
To he honest, I started this show with a mindset of dropping it on the first sign of boredom, but I instantly got pulled in the minute Young Woo's dad warned her to not talk about whales🤣🤣🤣 Park Eun Bin is a really talented actress and I love how the ML is written to be polite. I last saw Kang Ki Young in My secret, Terrius and realized I missed him onscreen for nearly 3 years!! Thank you beanies for commenting on autism in detail here because I gained more knowledge and learned new terms.
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ex-beanie
July 3, 2022 at 7:17 AM
haha, glad you gave it a chance! hope the show doesn't give you any sign of boredom! ha!
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19 Azili Mishtash
July 3, 2022 at 12:38 PM
I think it's interesting the way the character forces those around her to change how they view her. She's not carrying a sign that says "accept me!" She gets them to respect her elements by just being herself. First with the supervising attorney who thinks of her as a liability. She quickly gains his respect by showing him that she can analyze the crap out of a legal case and that he better look at himself if he wants to see a challenged skill set. Then with the good looking dude. He was kind, but clearly defined her by her disability. But that wedding dress scene clearly forced him to see her just as a lovely young woman, first and foremost. Then add to that the keen application of her intellect. And then... all that whale talk could turn quite sexy. By the way... I am not familiar with the Korean legal system. What was that guy's job. He seems to have been at the firm a while, but the rookie attorney got an office while he was in a desk pool. He introduced himself as part of the litigation team (in the subtitles). Was he an investigator or a paralegal...?
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jerrykuvira
July 3, 2022 at 3:20 PM
Most likely investigator or paralegal 'luminary', but definitely not legal. Unless he's preparing for law exams on the side.
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Azili Mishtash
July 3, 2022 at 10:42 PM
Thanks Jerrykuvira!
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Kurama
July 3, 2022 at 11:54 PM
I don't know for Korea but in my country, there are jurist and lawyer. Both did law school but the lawyer did an internship in a law firm then took the exam to be a lawyer and registered at the Bar.
He lives with Kwon Min-Woo, so I wonder if they met during their studies or at the law firm.
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Azili Mishtash
July 7, 2022 at 6:35 PM
Thanks Kurama. That's what I was thinking that there might be levels to the same profession.
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20 javinne
July 4, 2022 at 12:56 AM
Is it possible not to like/love Park Eun bin? She is so endearing, she seems to be so humble and nice, and I think it is not only because of her characters... her whole persona emits kindness. I hope she is like that, no, even better in real life, and I hope she is happy..
Coming into this show, I like it very much. I like the setting, I like the characters, I like the tone and the colors...
I just like everything.
Thank you, beanies for recommend it to me, although it was indirectly, but still... I started watching because you all posted good things about this show.
And thanks for the weecap, @unit
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21 Decraew
July 5, 2022 at 6:24 AM
What a pleasant surprise, this drama! It’s funny and moving, a refreshing take on courtroom drama (mostly not a fan of these). And Park EB is amazing in her role. Until now I considered her ‘one of the pack’, no more !
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22 sakuradaydream
July 5, 2022 at 5:50 PM
Less than 10mins in and I swore that I'll protect Young-Woo with my dying breath. Gosh im just really rooting for her!
(Praying, manifest circle, blood sacrifice doing everything to ensure that they don't kill off YW's dad)
I'm so glad I gave this show a chance. The part where she told her dad she'll pass him the bouquet made me bawl. (+the scene where the bride said she wants to be happy with the woman she loves EEEK)
I'm really looking forward to the upcoming episodes!
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23 LoveSojiSub51
July 6, 2022 at 6:45 PM
I think with this drama, I will not judge and instead focus on educating myself. My older sister was on the spectrum, but I barely knew her due to our large age gap. By the time I reached middle school, she had already moved on to a group home where she can live on her own. I think this show can definitely enlighten everyone about those with Autism.
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24 Adjussi1
July 8, 2022 at 9:56 AM
I am so impressed, not only by the show, but by the kindness, compassion. & knowledge of these comments. I think I am more moved by reading here than even this extraordinary show! THANK YOU to you who have shared their questions, reflections & experiences!
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25 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
August 8, 2022 at 11:28 PM
This whole show is just a giant whale-shaped heart floating in the sky
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26 KDFL
August 12, 2022 at 12:42 AM
I was skeptical at first about this drama, but one episode in and I'm in love! The cases are interesting and so in tune with our heroine's character development.
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27 Goyangi and the Camel Crickets
August 28, 2022 at 1:14 AM
Really enjoying this drama! Loved Attny Jung's honesty with himself after doubting WYW and then discovering that she is a truly skilled attorney. He admitted his error and accepted her as a valued member of his team, rather than insist on proving he was right.
Park Eun Bin KILLS this role. Wow.
Wonderful how quickly and naturally Jun Ho falls for Young Woo. And how KTH is performing this role, he is new to me and I love actors who subtly express their characters' emotions! Little smiles and facial expressions and gestures. Jun Ho accepts Young Woo for who she is, finds ways to help her succeed herself vs doing things for her, and appreciates her quirky ways. His reaction to seeing her in a wedding gown was marvelous!!
One question though, I was curious at Jun Ho's comment about the iron resembling a whale. Did he hear something about her earlier identical comment to Kang Ki Young, or that she likes whales? It just seemed a little too coincidental that he would bring up the topic of whales out of nowhere. He seemed interested in talking with her so maybe he had already learned of her interest and thought this would be a way to have a conversation with her?
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28 kdramacurious
September 21, 2022 at 11:40 PM
Just started watching and find the first couple of episodes utterly delightful. Reminds me of the legal shows in the 1990s but sprinkled with a dash of quirky humor. It will be hard not to binge-watch this series over a weekend.
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