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Bulgasal: Immortal Souls: Episodes 13-14 Open Thread

It’s a brutal batch of episodes this week. More pain, more loss, and still no firm understanding of the root of the evil fate that’s cursed all our characters for so many centuries. Each reveal creates only a deeper question, and in our penultimate week, our hero has to face the possibility that he’s only been chasing his tail this whole time.

 
EPISODES 13-14 WEECAP

Back into the cinematic bathroom we go, with Sang-eon reacting to the horrible memories of bulgasal Hwal with a cruel smile on his blood-smeared face. She stabs him with the bathroom scissors much to his shock (they’ve shared such intimate moments not minutes before this) — and we learn this action of hers is only an echo of what happened 1,000 years ago in that scene of bloodshed. Sang-eon (or whoever she was then) raises a blade against bulgasal Hwal, but he catches it with his hand, giving him the infamous scar on his right hand that’s been with him since. Oh snap!

You might think we can gather some meaningful intelligence from this flashback, but when they talk about it, Hwal and Sang-eon realize they both recall the same scene, but in each, the other is the bloodthirsty monster. So I don’t know what’s going on.

Thanks to her new fated shoulder scar, Hwal is sure that Sang-eon will continue to get her memories back, and that she’ll hate him when she does. I beg to differ, but we shall see.

But there’s something else that we learn through another 1,000-year-old memory, and it’s Hwal and Sang-eon in each other’s arms. They both seem like bulgasal lovers, and Sang-eon is smiling down at an adorable infant, with another child nearby. Wait, are they a happy little bulgasal family?! Alas, bulgasal Hwal worries that she’s obsessed with the children and will leave him… and that’s the end of that memory. Why oh why don’t they tell each other these memories more openly? It would make things so much easier.

Something (stupid) possesses Aunt Lee, Si-ho, and Do-yoon, and despite being safe at the mansion, they travel back to the dilapidated house they all prefer to call home. This decision leads to the brutal mayhem and death that everyone will have to face shortly.

They know Ok Eul-tae will make a move, and Hwal rightly takes his threat to harm the people around him seriously. But while Eul-tae might be in despair over Hwal’s rejection of him (seriously what is up with these two!), he hatches a pretty diabolical plan. And it works.

Ok Eul-tae’s control of the mayor means control of the police, which means control of DETECTIVE HAM (Choi Jae-woong), Hwal’s enemy of the past. They “arrest” Si-ho and Do-yoon and Aunt Lee follows to protect them. But of course they’re not going to the police station. There’s a monster-turned-human who lives in a forest, and as with all of the reincarnated monsters, Ok Eul-ae has a give-and-take with him. In the past this monster killed people and strung them in trees; in the present he doesn’t do much better.

Ok Eul-tae’s aim, of course, is to get Sang-eon at any cost, and Si-ho becomes the bargaining chip. In the horrifying scuffle, the tree monster is about to kill all three of them — until something flips the switch in Aunt Lee, and she starts prophesying.

Ok Eul-tae is there — in all his splendorous tangle of love and rage and longing and hate — and her words are so terrifying to him that he loses himself and kills her in the disgusting bulgasal fashion we have witnessed many a time. What did she say that freaked him out? Something about how an evil spirit will come from the dark hole, about feeding on a father’s blood, and that the soul will go back to its owner.

At this point in the story, this game of musical souls is exhausting my brain. I don’t know who was originally who, and I don’t know who is good, or bad, or if that is even a mechanism that we can understand these characters by. It seems to be true that 1,000 years ago, bulgasal Hwal stole Eul-tae’s soul, became human, and then wanted him to turn him back. But why?

Much like Hwal and Sang-eon said last week, I’m going to trust what I know and see to be true, and that is Sang-eon’s fearless commitment to keeping Hwal from losing his humanity, and Hwal’s emotional devastation over not only losing Aunt Lee, but the possibility of losing the others as well.

The tree monster attack spans multiple scenes, but it culminates in the cornfield scene, used to great effect (in fact, this drama uses all of its settings to great effect). Though Do-yoon and Si-ho are on the brink of death, they’re saved by the timely arrival of Hwal, and of course Sang-eon, who is the target everyone is after.

Despite not revealing a lot in terms of the past fate, this plot point really starts to bring things full circle. It’s the darkest and most desperate everyone (everyone!) has been, and also, the memories of the past are starting to echo for everyone. For example, Si-ho sees a bit of her own past with Do-yoon (I gasped!), while Detective Kwon remembers meeting Hwal as a young boy.

And as ever, Ok Eul-tae lurks around in the background, trying to pollute everyone against Hwal. His jealous rage (or whatever it is), knows no bounds. But while he seems to have rocked Detective Kwon’s loyalty, Sang-eon remains unchanged.

At this point, she’s seen Hwal as his absolute cruelest and most bloodthirsty, whether in the present, or their centuries-old past — but she remains loyal to him, and who she believes him to be.

Lost in torment and regret and the fear of losing more people he loves, Hwal basically forces everyone to leave the house and makes it sound like he doesn’t care about them anymore. Sang-eon, Si-ho, and Do-yoon drive away, splintering their group once and for all — if this really is a separation, what the heck have we been doing this whole show? Thankfully, this just turns into what I think is the final test for Sang-eon’s loyalty. Will she leave the ragey and tormented Hwal behind, or will she return to him, and give him what he needs?

Not only is Hwal grieving for Aunt Lee, but he’s torturing himself over the affection and sympathy she begged for his entire life, that he never once gave her (gah, those flashbacks!). To make Hwal’s descent even more painful, at this point he’s had his eyes sliced (out?) during the tree monster fight, and he’s going around with the same gauze over his eyes that his poor son did 600 years ago. It’s tragic, but it’s also damn good tragedy (with a capital T).

And so, Sang-eon returns to him (she’s our heroine after all) in his worst moments, about to fall on his sword. They share a wonderful embrace (the way he grabs a hold of her!), and she comforts him. No lie, I’m 100% here for this. The scene is not only lovely, but it’s made even stronger because Sang-eon has seen what he’s capable of but still believes in his goodness. And I think their bond might just be the key to unlock everything in the past.

So where do we stand? We have two episodes to go, and a ton of past to stitch together yet. It’s impossible to tell what’s what, even if we do get some instant replays, like Ok Eul-tae remembering Hwal taking his soul and giving him the dark hole.

There’s a ton of foreshadowing to deal with as well — Ok Eul-tae says that Hwal will be abandoned by everyone he cherishes, just like in the past, and while that’s definitely a theme that’s haunting this drama, I’m not sure he will lose Sang-eon this time.

As for Hwal and the genesis of his own tale, I’m lost. He seems rightly upset that he and Ok Eul-tae were once on the same side, and that he asked to become bulgasal and started this whole game of musical souls, but my brain can’t quite string these moments into a narrative that makes sense. The drama better do it for me next week!

 
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Poor Hawl. At least Sang Eon believes in him. That scene had me in tears. Hope things wrap up nicely next week.

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Yes!! Every time watch that scene, I start crying. Such a beautiful speech Sang Eun gave to Hwal and the best hug I have ever seen in Kdrama.

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I lost any sympathy I had for Hwal this week, but at least he realized what a right bastard he was to Ms. Lee all those years. I understand why he didn't let himself get close but still ...

It's not that I feel sorry for Eul-tae given that he was a murderer who followed a monster into the woods, but Hwal taking his soul, leaving an agonizing hole in his chest, and being like "Find me and turn me back into a Bulgasal again, mkay" was kind of messed up. Basically, it seems Eul-tae got between a very bloody lover's quarrel but wanted to be the lover himself.

I still think the villagers captured Lady Bulgasal because of Eul-tae's lie and Hwal went berserk. It looked like there was already trouble in paradise because of Lady Bulgasal's love for the human children whom I'm guessing were Si-ho and Do-yoon and were likely killed in the massacre. Bad karma, indeed.

I couldn't believe those cops didn't even blink at Eul-tae barefoot, in dirty clothes and with a dark hole in his chest, but I guess the betrayer cop was already well acquainted with him.

Si-ho echoing the words she said to A-chan in her past life was my favorite part of both episodes. I thought that was very well done.

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I was going to comment, but this is perfect, lol. I have nothing left to add.

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"It looked like there was already trouble in paradise because of Lady Bulgasal's love for the human children whom I'm guessing were Si-ho and Do-yoon and were likely killed in the massacre. Bad karma, indeed."

I think we'll have to contend with "accidental child death as a wake-up call" trope and perhaps as a convenient/fast exposition to the meaning of the curse. Too bad, because there were so many other theories floating around. What happened to "twins" and "ownership of soul" and "Cain&Abel" many fascinating plot prospects?

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I disagree with your statement. Ok Eul Tae wanted to be like Hwal and Sang Eun. He was evil 1000 years ago and evil today. Like I said in my last comment, Hwal is nothing like Eul Tae. We still don’t have a full story in Bulgasal Hwal from 1000 years ago but what I do know is that human Hwal is a good person even though he created this mess, he is paying for it with all the bad Karma he experienced for 600 years. Ok Eul Tae lived for 1600 years, killing innocent people and I know he is the one that killed all those innocent, TRIFLING people in that village where Hwal grew up in 600 years ago

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I was massively pissed off at Hwal, too, but after thinking through this episode I have decided that is really the key to breaking this entire cycle. Hwal started 1000 years ago as a Bulgasal who didn't really have human emotions. He loved Sang Eun, but in a possessive, jealous, consuming, and destructive way that ultimately consumed him and caused his own destruction. He may have stolen a soul from Eul-tae - but it didn't make him fully human. That came across in the way he treated his wife and child in his life as a human 600 years ago. He lacked human compassion and a grasp of human love. He loves his "family" - but again as a Bulgasal, in a possessive, destructive way. The only way he knows how to show his love is through destruction. He starts to realize that by the death of Ms. Lee and his son. He realizes he was never able to comfort them in a normal way, never able to feel love in a "human" way. But he doesn't understand what's wrong with him because he doesn't realize at first that he STARTED as a Bulgasal.

Ok Eul Tae started out human, but his jealousy and rage twisted the humanity out of him. He was willing to trade his soul for power and immortality - he didn't, in the end, deserve being human.

Sang-eun also started as a Bulgasal, but through her care for the human children, she learned to love as a human - with compassion and tenderness and sacrifice. She was ultimately the one who stole Ok Eul Tae's soul, but in a way, she had "earned" that soul. She loves Hwal - but she hates him for what he did, and if she can ever love him again, she needs to bring him fully into humanity. And she is the only one who truly can. She's not just protecting him - she's showing him how to be a human being through compassionate human love - love that gives and doesn't seek to possess.

By viewing it this way, my heart actually aches for Hwal, because he is truly pitiable. He feels the pain of love and loss, but the only way he knows how to deal with it, is by cutting it out of himself (literally). By stopping him, Sang-Eun is showing him that pain of loss is the price we pay for love. Without risking that pain, we cannot fully love. We must endure it to understand what it is to be human.

This series is actually breaking my heart. I have tried to hold off from reading spoilers, since I am watching this late - but it can only lead to the kind of redemptive tragedy that Korean writers seem to love. There will be no peace for Hwal and Seung-Eun in this life.

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Emotionally, I was all over the place watching these episodes.

Frustrated that here we are at 13 & 14 and I still have no idea what the exact connection is between all these characters. I didn't expect to be so confused at this point in the drama about the most basic of foundational events. Were Hwal and Ok Eul-tae brothers, friends, or lovers (I know the last one is unlikely considering the fact that this is a kdrama, but if I just consider Ok Eul-tae's clear longing from their very first scene, it's possible)? Was Sang-eon in love with Hwal or was he obsessed with her and she's spend centuries trying to escape him? Why did Hwal take Ok Eul-tae's soul? Who would want to be Bulgasal anyway? I'm so lost!

I also felt sad for Do-yoon and Miss Lee because Hwal seems incapable of loving anyone properly in the moment he is with them--he can only love them by regretting his treatment of them after they are (or appear to be) gone.

Finally, I am annoyed that Ok Eul-tae was barely in either episode because Lee Joon's performance still remains my favorite thing about this drama.

Like missvicktrix, I'm open to the romantic connection between Sang-eon and Hwal, but the sweeter flashbacks were quickly undercut with Hwal's classic abusive boyfriend line about being afraid she'd leave him simply because she's showing love and devotion to (her?) children. So I couldn't even entirely enjoy that very nice hug at the end.

I feel like we're going around in circles with no clear outcome in sight to root for. But I'm still hopeful this will all end on a satisfying note.

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"I also felt sad for Do-yoon and Miss Lee because Hwal seems incapable of loving anyone properly in the moment he is with them--he can only love them by regretting his treatment of them after they are (or appear to be) gone." Yes, this is a common behavior of someone stuck in the past, perhaps eternally grieving, incapable of breaking from the painful vicious circle of their own making. I am frustrated too about having so few answers. But it keeps me looking forward to this: What has made Hwal so? I'm used to K-drama delivering some disastrous finales, so my expectations are low. But at the least, hopefully the writers will be able to deliver the answer to Hwal's motivation and character.

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Based on what we've seen, I'll give my guesses to your questions. We'll see if they give clearer answers.
1. I actually think this one is the clearest: None of the above. Hwal was Bulgasal and Eul-tae was human so they were not brothers and Hwal didn't seem to care about humans. It seems Eul-tae became obsessed with the Bulgasal because he was sick and weak and wanted to be strong and immortal. It does seem like he might have had a bit of a one-sided love for Hwal, or at least obsession.
2. I think they were in love but Sang-eun had love for humans while Hwal could care less and was jealous. I think those kids died and that's when Sang-eun turned on Hwal. It probably didn't help that he turned Eul-tae into Bulgasal.
3. This is the fuzziest. Before Hwal took Eul-tae's soul he said something like "I can't die now" so if he died, maybe Sang-eun would have died too? I presume he wanted to be turned into a Bulgasal later so he could reunite with Sang-eun.

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I think you nailed it, in all three points.

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I think Hwal probably said that comment because maybe Sang Eun probably tried to kill hersself too so they both could die. That’s the only logical explanation I could think of. I could be wrong though

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@laurensophie "Emotionally, I was all over the place watching these episodes."
I felt the same way. I also feel that these episodes left me with more questions than answers. I do believe that Eul-tae had feelings for Hwal but I'm not sure if these feelings were ever returned. The amount of effort he is putting in to separate Hwal from Sang-eon leads me to believe this (even if this isn't the writer's intent).

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I think Eul-tae is trying to recover his soul that Hwal took as a Bulgasal at 1000 yrs ago. Eul-tae was trying to recover the soul 600 years ago, but Sang-eon stole the soul from Hwal beating Eul-tae at it. Eul-tae wants her dead so he can regain his soul.

But probably Eul-tae started it all by killing his brother then blaming it on Bulgasal. The villagers probably went after Bulgasal Hwal and Sang-eon, which caused them to defend themselves. Bulgasal Hwal disliked the villagers,
but Bulgasal Sang-eon had mercy on the children. This difference probably caused them to split up back 1,000 yrs ago.

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"Bulgasal Hwal disliked the villagers, but Bulgasal Sang-eon had mercy on the children." Bingo. This "mollifying villainy" theme is used quite a lot in cinema. There's no "go-back" from villainy after harming children, and I wonder if Sang-eon reminded Hwal about that. Are we going to see an overused trop of an accidental child death as a main wake-up call? We shall see.

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This is it. I always thought Hwal's "guilt" at the beginning of show was a bit exaggerated and unclear. What was he so guilty of? Being a terrible father? A terrible husband? Responsible (at least partly) for the death of his family? Yes, yes and yes. Yet I always felt like there was some larger tragedy looming over him that provided an endless reservoir of guilt, and I think the show is finally getting around to explaining our hero's tortured motivation. I suspect we'll see in the finale that he was somehow responsible for all of this past Tragedy (with a bit "T", whatever it was), or at least that's what he believes, and the curse is a natural progression for all the deeds he's (purportedly) done in the past. This show is very interesting. I'm glad I'm watching it -- with more tweaks here and there, and perhaps more overaching emphasis on the character development versus past mystery, perhaps, it could have been a great show but it's not yet getting there.

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Bulgasal's come as pairs and one keeps the other alive. When Sang Un killed him years back, she would die with him. To prevent that, he took Ok Eul Tae's soul turning him into a blood thirsty monster to keep the love of his life alive. That is my guess....Sang Un later on planned to set things right by turning him back into a Bulgasal that would kill Ok Eul Tae and all 3 would perish but Hwal kills human Sang Un before any of that could happen. My guess....now My question is Hwal took parts of Ok Eul Tae's soul and his karma and later that went to Sang Un with Hwal's added karma so how can any of the 3 survive at the end? They can't exist, all 3 need to die to end this cycle of misery.

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I don't know if it's because Lee Joon is doing such a damn fine job with his character or because Kwon Nara...is not, but if Sang-eon and Hwal get the whole sacrificial death and redeemed reincarnation treatment and Eul-Tae doesn't, I'm going to be majorly disappointed. I can't exactly pinpoint why, but I just haven't been able to connect with Sang-eon in any way whatsoever.

On the bright side, I can think of at least two fanfic spin-offs I'll be writing in my head once this is done:
1] The love story of two guardian mythological creatures who were divided by their respective love and hate for their charges (humans). The male Bulgasal looked down on humans and was jealous that the female loved them, and then he was corrupted by his hatred into becoming an evil Bulgasal and went on a rampage massacring the humans and incurring his lover's wrath.
2] A young man who was neglected/abused by his father was drawn in by the promise of protection from a handsome and mysterious man, fell in love, and then was changed into an immortal creature before the man vanished. He then spends 1000 years looking for his lost love and subsequently is warped by his isolation and torment into a raging psychopath who hunts and kills anyone who might be related to his ex-lover.

Okay, I lied. I can't write tragedies or dark stories. My spin-offs will probably be a lot fluffier and they will have an Eul-Tae who is not a psychopath because quite frankly, he's the only reason I'm still watching.

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Oh my gosh--"I can think of at least two fanfic spin-offs I'll be writing in my head once this is done..." So, I'm not the only one who does this? :) Also, Lee Joon delivers such a nuanced performance that we see his human frailties and desperation shining through the villainy. Very nicely done.

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I rewrote the entirety of Heirs in my head because I was so let down by the fact that Park Shin Hye's character chose Lee Min Ho's character. Kim Woo Bin FTW!

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I know! Kim Woo Bin totally stole that show, I hated the lame ending too.

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@shinayame If you ever do write these tragic fan fictions, I would love to read them :)

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Eul-tae has a really unhealthy obsession for Hwal(or some might say twisted love)...Don't judge me but even so i find it more entertaining his story and chemistry with Hwal than with our Candy heroine,like this two are fire...The death of Ms. Lee was quite sad but think the most poignant was the last one were Hwal realized what he did and the regret he now added,in that moment i truly felt his pain even if he is the one who inflicted on himself...Hope Ms. Lee soul finds peace and reincarnated with a better fate this time around,she totally deserved it...
My take still remains that Hwal and Sang-eon were soulmates,the two Bulgasals created but the difference was that the woman longed and loved for humans while the man loved only her and his nature...In his despair of her leaving him for human he killed that village she lived/frequented creating the tragedy we saw yet i'm quite suspecting Eul-tae had a hand in adding some poison in Hwal mind escalating the events...

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"My take still remains that Hwal and Sang-eon were soulmates,the two Bulgasals created but the difference was that the woman longed and loved for humans while the man loved only her and his nature..."

OMG, if only writers could have explored this issue over the course of the show. You know the eternal question, whether the human nature is inherently bad, or plainly misunderstood or just beautiful as is as Renaissance artists would argue? Would accepting yourself, even your bad intentions, is part of being human? Is it also a part of being human where our inherent morals draw the line? Are beasts/bulgasals inherently "better" than humans with their "honest" intentions? These are all interesting questions, that, I doubt, the finale will ever explore.

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I wish they had spent more time in the past. Another angle that they’ve pretty much dropped is the tangled father-son relationship between OK Eul-Tae and Det. Kwon. Det. Kwon was OK Eul-Tae’s disappointed father 1000 years ago and pretty much the source of Ok Eul-Tae’s longing for an approving father figure. I wish they could have explored that more. Also Det. Kwon was an absentee father for Si-ho 600 years ago and that has pretty much been dropped as well.
While Hwal has been beating himself up for 600 years for being a bad father, Det. Kwon the original bad father got to die and be reborn without any guilt. It’s quiet fascinating!

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Oh agree so much on this. Instead of hour-long "moody" scenes, I wish they put more time into exposition of all of these relationships. They should have spend a lot more time in the past giving our heroes more meaty motivations and characterization, but alas.

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I guess by now it's too late for it...Guess their biggest mistake was that desire to conceal the secret for the "big reveal" till it's last episodes hurting the whole story in it's process...
Quite sad as i still think this story is the most charming when it was in the past.

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@miky88 You perfectly summarized how I feel about what we've learned so far.

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So they’re really waiting until the final hour to reveal the whole past.
It better be good.

Aunt Lee had that line about an evil spirit who was the one who created Eul Tae’s black hole. And then the brief past flashback showed that Hwal was the one who created it. I don’t think he was evil… or I hope not. I don’t know if him being evil would be more interesting or not. I think it’s more likely a red herring. I don’t want him to be bad. Hwal’s been such a lonely character.

In EP 13, Aunt Lee’s death wasn’t exactly a surprise. It didn’t really hit me. Si Ho and Do Yoon’s lament was sad and believable, but when it came to Sang Eon, I thought her scene was unnecessarily long. She should have been looking for Si Ho and Do Yoon quicker. Seeing Hwal remembering the past memories of Aunt Lee and his palpable despair and anguish brought me to tears though. He looked so hopeless and defeated.

I feel bad because I wasn’t sure if she was an innocent character or if I could really trust her prophecies. Like Hwal, I was biased by her past self instead of looking at her present person.

The big, emotional hug between Hwal and Sang Eon was good. I haven’t been into the romance, but I liked the idea of them being bulgasal lovers back then.

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"I feel bad because I wasn’t sure if she was an innocent character or if I could really trust her prophecies. Like Hwal, I was biased by her past self instead of looking at her present person."

Me too. I wonder if the show is also prejudicing us against Hwal - asking us to choose whether he's "evil" or just "mis-intentioned".

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U mentioned well about the evil spirit,i think Bulgasals or other monsters are added in the category of evil spirit by default not looking if the individual was or not up to his "name" but might be wrong...
Hwal had no excuse for how he treated Ms. Lee but on his part i guess it's in large that he is stuck in his own vicious cicle as for him it's not a past life it's still that life...People from his past left being good or bad and returned as other individuals but he is still the same one from the past so no wonder that he finds it hard to look at this new individuals as their own and not the past ones...

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Yes, this is also an interesting tidbit -- we all assumed that bulgasal is "evil" to begin with...but what if they are not, what if they are actually creatures of "good will", if you will, who perhaps were helping humans initially, but got disillusioned with the humans eventually?

And yes, death is the ultimate memory-wipe-out and reset, and as such being eternal is not that peachy. Humans have so much trouble dealing with past traumas, trying to leave it all to past, with few successes. They say that even if we are able to keep our biological bodies eternal, it would be much harder for our minds to want to stay being eternal -- minds remember, and they react, and they set patterns of behavior, that only mind has an ability to change, so that to break out of that vicious circle, mind must kill something about it, some or all of its learnings, deep hurts and traumas, judgments about people around them, all the prejudices. Being eternal is not all that peachy, yes, and on top of distorted memories and unique craziness that comes out of gaslighting yourself, not trusting yourself and others, Hwal must be feeling like he's already in hell, even if alive. His curse might be just that.

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I have no intention of watching this drama--its just not my cup of monster-infused tea--so I have no right to comment. But I do try to read everything @missvictrix writes, so I've been scanning the recaps, and today's line "Wait, are they a happy little Bulgasal family" made me laugh. Not so much that I felt like I had a gaping chest wound, nor enough to make me watch the show, but it was pretty funny.

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Hah, thanks for the compliment. I still don't know why I'm digging this so much...

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First ep was so bloody and gory, that's usually an instant turn-off for me. I'm now totally onboard with their universe. Saying goodbye after ep 16 is going to be hard

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Lol, me neither. I think we have fewer and fewer stories like these, a very linear plot progression of a straight-up fantasy story without the trappings and wearing-offs of mashed-up genres (like "romance-fantasy") but I also think the main reason: its plot and productions are good enough to pique our interests without quite delivering on its epic promises, and thus wetting out imagination on what-it-could-have-been.

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"its plot and productions are good enough to pique our interests without quite delivering on its epic promises, and thus wetting out imagination on what-it-could-have-been." So. Much. This.

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I think you've put your finger on what is both appealing and frustrating about many K-dramas. Even when they make use of familiar genre tropes, they do them so well that you enjoy them while also thinking (or in my case shouting at the screen) "Why?!? you could have been so much better!"
Argh, now you and missvictrix are having me think I should watch this. Maybe if I just turn it on while I'm working out my soul won't get sucked from body!

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I’ll join you in the bemused fascination with the show @missvictrix. I’m digging the romance and the show despite its obvious flaws.

I’ll also add my compliments to your writing. I do read all your recaps too.

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Thank you <3

Bemused fascination, it is!!

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I think what happened is this: Hwal as a Bulgasal was on the brink of death because he suffered a fatal blow from Bulgasal Sang-eon. To avoid death, he took Past Eul-tae's soul, with the demand that he find Human Hwal and make him a Bulgasal again.

I think Bulgasal Sang-eon might've been attempting to permanently destroy Hwal's soul just like Bulgasal Eul-tae is trying to destory her soul now, he just needs Bulgasal Hwal to do it. Anyway, instead of getting his soul back from Human Hwal 600 yrs ago, Past Eul-tae orchestrated events to force Bulgasal Sang-eon to do it because, and Eul-tae has said this, he likes being immortal. He likes being strong. Getting his soul back from reincarnating Human Hwal would mean that Hwal is a Bulgasal and Ok Eul-tae becomes a weak human again.

Bulgasal Sang-eon's soul was taken instead and it messed up the plan. Somehow, she remains able to remember, whereas reincarnating Human Hwal couldn't. It might have something to do with how it happened.

I think the ultimate point is that the cycle can be broken, but only if both Sang-eon and Hwal do things differently. As we see, the running through-line for Hwal has been his intense fear of abandonment and his inability to express sincere and true emotion without hurting the ones he cares about, i.e. as Bulgasal Hwal he was obsessed with Sang-eon loving him and only him and as reincarnating Hwal, he is afrad of people leaving him and so he pushed them away.

In the past, Sang-eon probably did abandon Bulgasal Hwal because he was an obsessive monster. I'd be interested to see why she appeared to be saving reincarnating Human Hwal. Maybe she learned the lessons already?

I definitely think those two children were past versions of Si-ho and Do-yun. But I really want to say that baby was heart-meltingly adorable.

Honestly, I think Eul-tae's ultimate motivation is that he wants to be strong, accepted, and immortal. Other than the dark hole that fills him with agony, he's appeared to love his immortal life. Sang-eon being restored and/or Hwal being restored threatens that.

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First, Miss Vicktrix, thank you for this week's great, detailed recap. My favorite line: your description of Ok Eul-Tae's "splendorous tangle of love and rage and longing and hate". For me, this sums up perfectly Eul-Tae's baffled disbelief that nobody understands or loves him. Also, in the "baby" flashback, Hwal was saying that Sang is obsessed with those children and acts "as if they are her own", or STTE. Now that I've read all the comments, I want to go back and watch that scene again. Come on, week, go by fast--we need some resolution here!

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We've seen the moment when Hwal slaughters all those villagers a few times now. I believe that he killed those people because they attacked Sang-eon and the children, resulting in the death of the children and Seong-eon almost dying. As we've seen with the last two episodes, Hwal becomes enraged (understandably so) when those that he loves and cares for are harmed. I believe that bulgasal Sang-eon was trying to stop Hwal from harming more people by stabbing him. Perhaps this was the moment that caused the rift between them.

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Well now, my last week's fear of what will the ending bring us just multiplied by 100. Because the more interesting this gets, the more I'm anticipating the ending to be: a) underwhelming and b) rushed. With b) I can live, with a) I cannot.
Anyway, whoever guessed last week that The Soul is actually Eul-tae's is a queen, (was it gadis?), and I'm so glad she was right. That is a great plot point.
The sequence of Miss Lee's various younger selves imagined by grieving Hwal was beautiful and heartbreaking.
Also, the crying Airhead hugging the blind Hotness at the end was indeed truly lovely as missvictrix said, it made me squirm happily on a couch a little. I think I could deal with whatever the ending throws at us a bit better if it included a minute or two long smootch between the Bloodstained Hotness and the Badly Dressed Candy.

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This show has not given me many reasons to smile--but your last sentence sure did :)

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“Crying airhead hugging blind hotness” 👏🏽👏🏽
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Perfection!

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And after the minute long smooch, we see cute little bulgasal babies bouncing along, and they all live happily ever after, except ok eul tae, who is still pissed...lol

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That soul is bouncing around 3 people. I have the feeling ok eul tal just wants it back to heal. But hwal and sang eon are playing with it. Was sang eon human initially? Or a monster that didn’t feed off humans as she took care of children. Were they a pair, one light, one dark and he ruined their relationship? That painting shows her with a halo and his back is towards her.

I really want a series of what happened 1000 years ago!

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I wonder if the morale of this show is to let bygones be bygones and live in the present and that memories, especially memories of past hurts are unreliable and not worth holding on too.
Hwal has spent 600 years not being able to let go. Ok Eul-Tae has spent 1000 years not being able to let go. Both live in agony because they are still tied to the past and unable to break out of old patterns of behavior.
Sang-un’s twin was trapped in the same cycle but Sang-un got a clean slate and despite being a “badly dressed airhead Candy” (to quote @turka) is able to let go of the past and stay in the present. Each time she makes the choice Hwal benefits too. So maybe that is what would break their vicious centuries long cycle.

I have to give the show props for consistency-the flashbacks of the past are still the most compelling (Bulgasal Hwal gently stroking Bulgasal Sang-Un’s hair 😍). Hwal’s hotness remains, Ok Eul-Tae is the most sympathetic villain ever (Lee Joon is absolutely killing it), Si-Ho is underutilized, the filming locations are gorgeous, and Sang-Un’s wardrobe is atrocious.

I am looking forward to the final week!

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yep that's my sense too. it's weird but it is true only a "badly dressed airhead candy" who has a clean slate can break this vicious cycle of revenge, anger, hatred... maybe sang eon's airheadness actually has good use lol

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"let bygones be bygones and live in the present and that memories, especially memories of past hurts are unreliable and not worth holding on too."

THIS!!! It would be absolutely amazing, if in the finale, we get to see Hwal actually making a choice, a very active choice about something important, affecting the present (and perhaps a bit humbling but a very active choice), instead of reacting or getting mired in the past as a source of his choices. If anything else is going to crash-and-burn in the finale, at the least, I want to see some cinematic lesson ("morale of the story") as a reward for us, audience, watching this imperfect show, e.g. sometimes we are all happier making the unexpected choices rooted in the present, than glimpsed out from the past. And it would be so relatable! I often catch myself thinking about the stresses of the past, but then I question myself if my reaction is as impressionable or as accurate as my inner narrative let me believes. This allows me to step back from the vicious circle of analysis-paralysis and objectively assess the situation, or at least, assess my reaction to the situation in a more objective light. It is clear as a day, that Hwal is trapped in the past, as well as poor Ok Eul-Tae. These two are the most suffering characters, and it's interesting to see that the characters who do not possess all of their memories are kinder, more measured, more objective, more trusting in human relationships, more curious and questioning. Thematically, that would be a good finale to gift us with.

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Wake me up when the truth behinds the 1000 yrs ago and 600 yrs ago revealed. I came too far to drop the drama but I'm gonna watch it with 1.5x for the last 2 episodes. The slow pace and unnecessary scenes annoyed me to the max.

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I’m sorry but I can’t sympathize with Ok Eul Tae at all. I don’t care what his motive was. It’s his actions and the way he handled things that bothered me. He was sick, I get that. But killing your own brother and blaming it on Bulgasal was horrible. Even though the 1000 year Bulgasal Hwal killed people, he is not the same as Ok Eul Tae. Hwal was reborn a human with good intentions and had a heart, even though tragedy fallowed him, He stayed true to hisself and didn’t kill maliciously like Ok Eul Tae. He’s a bloody thirst murderer and a user. He does anything for his own benefit. He saved Bulgasal Hwal 1000 years ago for his own benefit and look where that left him, a black hole in his heart. I don’t get why people still sympathizes with him. SMH

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Right? People are sympathizing with the child murdering obsessed fratricidal psychopath and dogging on the Truly victimized, hunted innocent understanding compassionate FL who makes the ML be better.

Things that make you go Hmm.

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Thank you, finally, I totally agree!!!! I am lost on all the sympathy Eul Tae is apparently provoking, I just don't get it. Ok, Lee Joon is good, but he's good in portraying a d***head who killed his brother and who knows who else out of jealousy, and then when he got turned into a monster, he spends the next 1000 years moping around and posing as a bloodthirsty emo teenager because he got a big bad black hole and an unrequited crush on Hwal - all while still killing people because he has aalways been soooo misunderstood, poor baby (heavy eye rolling). Unlike Hwal, he doesn't have one redeeming quality - and no, "affection" for Do Yoon doesn't count because - let me think - oh yeah, he tried to kill him and leave him to die multiple times!!!

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I don't sympathize with Eul-tae. He's a murderer and deserves to die in the end, but I do find him more fun and interesting than the other characters. I think that sometimes happens with villains and then people try to justify why they like them.

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I have one theory in my mind! Apart from this plot, I guess, Sang-Un wanted to show Hwal the good side of humans. But Hwal was obsessed with Sang-Un, I don't think it was love (In the present time it is) because no lover would want to lose his partner rather he'd support her. And Sang-Un on the other hand maybe wanted a family of her own. After this curse, he had his own family (he loved them silently) and he knew the importance of family. Maybe this thing Sang-un wanted to show Hwal. This drama is more about family ties with little romance, Ok eul-tae's family, Hwal's family, and now Sang-un's family. Even if there is no blood relation but there is a love relation.

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Oh, this drama... When it is good, it's really good. The emotional beat in these last 2 episodes is just so on point. It surprised me how much the scene of Hwal regretting his coldness toward Auntie Lee and his inability to let go of his past punched me right where it hurts. The way he struggled with his long-abandoned human emotion and braced himself for the coming loneliness was just painful to witness. I'm glad that Sang-un has decided to act free from any influence of their long, complicated history. Hwal definitely needed that in his lowest point.

I'm still not sure what to make of Eul-tae's recent memory reveal. Contrary to the many other revelations before, I found myself simply believing this. I realized that the only way for both Eul-tae and Sang-un's recollection of the past to be truthful, is for us to get a major perspective shift about Hwal. Things made sense if Hwal started out as the "bad guy", the one who held Eul-tae's soul hostage for centuries, the one who inadvertently (or maybe not?) put Eul-tae in Sang-un's path over and over again. The convoluted revenge that then resulted between the three would make perfect sense. I would applaud them if the creator did go with this theory and managed to pull it off. If that happened, this would put Eul-tae into a very interesting crossover category between villain and victim.

I can't wait to see how the writer would resolve everything this week. Tbh, I don't want a traditional happy ending because I don't think "and they live happily ever after" suits this tale's overall dark atmosphere. But then again, in a capable hand you can get a happy ending even through major character death scene or something equally tragic and dramatic, so let's hope for something epic to close this story satisfyingly.

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I have lost track of how many backstory theories have been spawned in threads by this drama.

I remain in this until the last credits start to roll, even if the last ep reveals make me want to smash things. Whether I remember the actual plot reveals or the theories down the road...that's anyone's guess. 😜

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I'm too staying till the bitter(?)sweet(?) ending. Bring it on, this weekend!

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Questions that may never get answered: who is bringing Hwal his cans full of blood now that Mrs. Lee has gone over the Rainbow Bridge? Why did that cute gray and white cat appear near the 15-years-ago murder scene, and again at the hangout of the Tree Monster ("Here kitty kitty")? How has Sang-un pulled so many hideous outfits out of that one suitcase? It's like the circus clown-car of fashion horrors. Just me trying to fill time until Ep 15 comes on

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I will admit when the scene where Mrs. Lee is scolding him for not cleaning the fridge, I was wondering where he would get it from as well. And what would the reason be, "I'm making sundae or haejangguk for a neighborhood festival?" 🤔 The show never does get into the quantity he requires either, now that I'm thinking about this...

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Hi All. New to Korean shows. First time here. Loving the music in this show, but having a difficult time finding it online. Most specifically, theres a sad song, sounds like a male lead vocal, ...heart is breaking..slowly, nothing I can do anymore??? Iffy of the lyrics. Seems it's applied over very said moments..people leaving/dying. Anyone have ANY idea the song/artist? BIG thanks in advance!
Sincerely,
KDramovice

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Is it the 4MEN song perhaps? (I know I'm addicted to it, hah) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4onOd2Rug9U

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