Lovestruck in the City: Episodes 10-11 Open Thread
by SailorJumun
The big secret’s out, but none of our lovestruck — or rather, lovesick — characters know what to do about it. Should they move on with their lives, or should they try to restore what was lost? As always, our heroine leans toward the former, while our hero leans toward the latter.
EPISODES 10-11 WEECAP
So, after our couple’s messy reunion, we only now see how much Jae-won meant to Eun-oh. Not only did she love him, but she was grateful to him for bringing out her real self. She beautifully states, “He built a house in [my heart] and became the owner.”
Having found Jae-won’s ring, she also wants her surfboard back. The man she gave it to is unwilling to return it, until she starts crying and rambling about why it’s important to her. Honestly, she should be saying all of this to Jae-won and not some stranger.
Director-nim asks Jae-won about Eun-oh, and Jae-won coldly says that he doesn’t want to hear her out. If she’d just embraced him out in the street, instead of trying to return his cameras, he would’ve accepted her. Which makes sense; for him, actions speak louder than words.
Director-nim sure likes toying with our characters — he eventually tells the others that Jae-won found his camera thief, and they’re all super curious to know what happened. Hearing her friends badmouth the thief, Eun-oh feels downright awful. But when she hears Jae-won’s video message (apologizing for yelling at her), she feels even worse.
The next few days are hard on Eun-oh, subsequently making them hard on her roomie Geon. She dances to loud music, she cries out of nowhere, and she curses herself in the mirror. Worried, Geon gives Eun-oh’s marketing proposals to Kyung-joon, thinking she just needs work. Oh boy, I see where this is going…
What I don’t see coming is the big blowup at Jae-won’s company. Jae-won and Kyung-joon have customers, with Rin-yi stopping by for lunch. But Kyung-joon and Rin-yi recognize the client as Eun-oh’s two-timing ex-fiance. They tear him apart, Rin-yi screaming that he made Eun-oh disappear for three months. Pfft, Jae-won’s face.
I’m glad we finally get some info about Eun-oh’s past, about why she was so desperate to leave her old self/life behind. It doesn’t excuse what she did to Jae-won, but it greatly explains her behavior throughout their relationship and breakup. We also get a breakthrough for Jae-won, who sees Eun-oh’s marketing business card and starts to put the pieces together. He calls her number, stunned to actually hear her voice, and then disappointed to hear a guy’s voice (Geon) in the background.
Even so, Jae-won can’t seem to let this go. He sits Kyung-joon down to ask about his friend that disappeared. And Kyung-joon tells him, and us, that Eun-oh and her fiance were supposed to move to Busan together, but that they mysteriously broke up. Eun-oh lost her Busan job, had nowhere to live, so she just up and left. But seeing Jae-won’s client with his wife and nine-month-old baby, Kyung-joon and Rin-yi realized he had to have gotten his now-wife pregnant while he was still engaged to Eun-oh.
We see Eun-oh pitching her marketing plan at another company, and the sight of all the interviewees reminds her of when she applied to her Busan job. She’d noticed a laidback girl sporting flowy clothes and highlights in her hair — and the nametag Yoon Sun-ah. So that explains where she got her inspiration for her alter ego.
Kyung-joon invites Jae-won to Eun-oh’s place, saying they’ll be camping on the roof. And hearing that Eun-oh lives with a friend and not a boyfriend, Jae-won gets this hopeful smile on his face. I don’t really understand what he’s trying to do, because when he arrives at the house, he acts as if he’s meeting Eun-oh for the first time.
When the couple shake hands, Kyung-joon notes that Jae-won isn’t wearing his wedding ring anymore. Looking at Eun-oh, Jae-won says he threw it away because everything about that woman was fake. Oof.
I’m torn because the devil on my shoulder wants Jae-won to totally mess with Eun-oh, while the angel (and much more logical one) just wants the damn truth out. I like Eun-oh and sympathize with her enough that I don’t want her friends or Jae-won to see her as a bad person.
The problem is, she’s trying to make herself the bad person and, frankly, succeeding. Despite her guilt and her obviously lingering love, she hasn’t done a single thing to fix her mistakes. She retrieved the ring and the surfboard, only to run and hide again. At least now, with the whole group (minus Sun-young) together, there’s nowhere to hide.
Time to face the music and put the “lovestruck” back in Lovestruck in the City.
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Tags: Han Ji-eun, Ji Chang-wook, Kim Ji-won, Kim Min-seok, Lovestruck in the City, Ryu Kyung-soo, So Joo-yeon
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1 wandering spot
January 27, 2021 at 11:59 PM
I agree with Eun oh for the first time, when she asked "Do I look sane to you?. I look crazy right". Can't agree with you more girl. You are crazy. I guess the show want viewers to empathize with Eun oh and her reasons. Does it work? No..atleast not for me. In fact I find it now harder to empathize with her because she tasted how painful it is when your loved one cheats you only to end up doing the same thing to another person. I can understand her need to be someone else but that doesn't give her the right to give the same pain to someone else. At this point I guess I realized that I might never warm up to this character no matter what. Another thing I do not get is why is it always Jae Won chasing her directly or indirectly? It's always him who is making his way to her. Why can't it be the other way around? More than anything else it's the fact that she is still not explaining anything to him thats infuriating me. And it's hard to even imagine how he might have felt when he finally discovered that she is a friend of Rin I and his cousin. And what will happen when he realize that she does knew all along that he is KJ's cousin. It's really cruel.
Also I didn't get Rin-i at particular scene. Why did she try to sell that night stand ?. I felt bad seeing KJ's expression. I mean why will she sell something her boyfriend bought for her? I even went back and watched the scene but still didn't get it. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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shichybot
January 28, 2021 at 12:25 AM
Rini thought Kyung-joon got that for free, which he said to downplay his generosity I think. But I agree, it seems thoughtless of her.
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wandering spot
January 28, 2021 at 2:03 AM
Yeah true. Even if it was actually for free I felt it was thoughtless of her too....
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Eazal
January 28, 2021 at 3:30 AM
That's why I feel not everything is right between these two, as I think KJ has been doing this for a while, so... where is sincerity in this couple? He's buying nice furniture for her to restore and telling her he got it for free... I don't think this is a good basis.
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OldLawyer
January 28, 2021 at 11:57 AM
Rin-i has been lying to herself about her relationship w KJ. I wonder if we will have a blow up where it is KJ who has had enough and walks away? What does Rin-i do then?
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marshmellowbebe
January 28, 2021 at 1:50 PM
I agree I think the not wanting to marry him too was a red flag as well. She’s got some monsters in her closet that hasn’t surfaced yet. Which will only make this perfect cookie cutter couple more interesting imo lol.
knewbie
February 1, 2021 at 9:50 PM
I’m not sure why Rin-yi’s behaviour is considered problematic. As far as I can see, she has been completely honest with Kyung-joon, while KJ has been lying to her from day one. Assuming she believed Kyung-joon’s lie about the nightstand, in her eyes (and in mine as well) it was an unwanted item like any other - its having been picked up by KJ at some event is no different from her retrieving the other nightstand at the dumping site. In fact he was doing his best to convince her that it was NOT a gift from him. So why shouldn’t she take both nightstands and try to sell the nicer one?
Nor do I see her attitude towards marriage as a red flag. Again, assuming that she was telling the truth when she said that KJ had never mentioned marriage, I don’t see why she should have brought the topic up herself, especially if she’s genuinely uninterested in it. Moreover, just because KJ put so much effort into pursuing RY doesn’t mean RY owes him anything. In the first place, she doesn’t even know half of what he has done for her. Secondly, it’s just as well that she doesn’t know, cos I don’t think she’d appreciate having been stalked and lied to for so long. In short, I don’t think RY has being lying to herself or to anyone else about how she feels about KJ. On the contrary, I think KJ - albeit believing that it’s a normal part of courtship and for her own good - has been systematically deceiving her about their relationship and his part in it.
Healer’s
January 28, 2021 at 1:12 AM
Infuriated, that was my feeling watching the lastest episode.
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Eazal
January 28, 2021 at 3:33 AM
I can empathize with EunOh pain for being cheated on like she was, and can even understand her need to run away. From that moment, I don't feel anything for her and I utterly dislike her. She should have sought professional help to overcome her pain.
She was going to marry a man one day, decided to move to another place and start a new job, then he breaks her heart in the worst way possible and I am to believe her love for JaeWon is true? That's not love, that's something else. But not love.
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dreamy1111
January 28, 2021 at 10:01 PM
It is not worth suffering so much because of her ex (such a jerk). She should have found a positive way to solve the issue btw Jaewon and herself.
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LookieLooWho
January 28, 2021 at 5:37 AM
Overall, I agree with you 100%. For Jae-Won, he wants either closure or reconciliation. That's why he's the one chasing after Eun-Oh. Eun-Oh wanted us to believe that she had moved past that chapter in her life and wants to be done. We know otherwise.
Rin-I is independent. She wanted to find her own nightstand and seems to generally want to support herself. She mentioned that she does not want to get married and hasn't even considered it. A huge revelation when you recall she's been in a relationship for 5+ years. Finally, we saw that she had a failed previous relationship as well. Her hurt seems to lead her to depend on herself.
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marshmellowbebe
January 28, 2021 at 1:54 PM
100% how I feel. Each episode I keep looking for validation for why I should sympathize with this character but her crying scenes do nothing for me lol. Jae won literally screamed at her asking for an answer to why she did all this and she just stood there. She is beyond infuriating. The scene with the ex fiance and her scene at the interview was def interesting to see and something we needed to gain more insight into who she really is but it still doesn’t make me feel anything for her beyond thought that she needs help asap. Like you said she built a whole new personality to escape who she is, but it didnt make her a better person or give her an excuse for blatantly lying to all her friends and jaewon and hurting everyone she loved. I just dont get it lol. I’ll keep watching to see if that changes.
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OldLawyer
January 30, 2021 at 9:41 AM
In fact she missed an opportunity when Jae-won screamed at her for an answer. Standing there sullenly is just too stupid for words. She could have said something, if only something like "I messed up". Instead she just compounds the error and that never helps.
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Moko
January 31, 2021 at 7:29 AM
I mean I get what you are saying and I agree about Eun Oh. The part where she hurts him after being hurt herself like that (possibly even worse, I mean, cheating fiances that tell you, you suck are really not helpful for a girls self-esteem)
But I feel like no one here really wants to understand Eun Oh because you are Wookie fans xD. Don't get me wrong I am also a Wookie fan. But he's playing a hopelessly romantic character. Whenever I see them facing each other he's the only one venting his anger at her, talking and talking and basically saying all these things to shut her up. He's the only one screaming until he leaves her speechless. Since I am a bit of shy and timit character myself I do understand why she's not really able to respond immediately. Because she feels already guilty about the whole situation and doesn't know where to start and what to say when he's like that. I think if he would calm down a bit and talk without throwing his emotional garbage at her for a minute she would be more likely to respond. Because she's not Yoon Seon Ah, the happy and outspoken girl she's more like something in between her old self and that. What I wanna say is, I do get why she reacts the way she does most of the time unlike all the other people here. Maybe it's also because I understand Eun Oh's kind of crazy because of my own kind of crazy.
I even understood why she acted that way at the beach. He's so overly romantic he only cared about his own feelings. Even without her having to hide something like a fake personality, that's a bit fast. And why does the other person have to move as fast as he does? A marriage after 3-4 weeks? Seriously? I mean we all know that's doomed and they have a lot of stuff to work through before they can become a real couple.
I think with all that stigma society put on women and how they are supposed to behave and stuff...I think in a way this drama is trying to talk about how everyone is different and a bit crazy, carrying a bag with issues on their own. And those issues come out when you date different people and you start to learn more about yourself.
Also she's just a fictional character and this drama is written mostly based around their relationship so they have to leave them apart as looooong as they can for the sake of suspension. ^.^' At least that's what I tell myself everytime they meet and don't get to talk it out.
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wandering spot
January 31, 2021 at 7:59 PM
I disagree with you on certain points. My problem with the character Eun oh is not because I am a wookie fan. I like KJW too. And I basically dislike almost all characters in the show. I do have empathy with her for what she had to suffer. My problem with the character is the way she used someone else in the process of finding herself. Yeah Jaewon is impulsive and I rolled my eyes on the marriage sequence. But she could have said No too there. I dont think he forced her to marry him. And yes nobody is perfect. And she can be crazy and carry her own baggage but that is not an excuse to use someone. Also I get she feels guilty but then again she is not doing anything about it. How ever pathetic the guy might be, he do deserves an explanation.
And regarding the yelling part.. If someone you loved disappear one sudden day taking your things and one day you realize all you know about that person are lies , how can that person react calmly? The sense of betrayal he /she might be feeling will be too high.
On last note, my patience for the character ran out almost, and that's why I mentioned that I might never be able to warm up to her no matter what.
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Healer’s
February 2, 2021 at 9:31 PM
Thank you wandering spot for your patience in explaining your reasons for being unable to like Eun-oh. I couldn’t agree more with you. All the justification here for Eun-oh’s behaviours is that it is like people in real life, flawed and all, as if we Wookie fans couldn’t see it, and as if that things have gone this far was because of Jae-won’s doings, Jae-won’s obsession and whatnot. Those who said these things have ignored a fact that all adults, not matter how timid and shy they may be, must be responsible for a game they agreed to be a part of. Loosely said, Eun-oh used Jae-won for her changing-identity game at the beach, and then ignored him for a whole year, a year, not just several weeks, knowing how pathetic and miserable he was.
Honestly, I didn’t like JCW’s character from the get go either, and it is because I am his fan that I have kept watching until ep13 this Tuesday. But I have called it quits. No amount of JCW or KJW on the screen can keep me going any more. No actors can save such mediocre writing and cliche plot. [minor spoiler]. I have had enough from other kdramas of a drunken girl (or boy) texting someone she/he dumped saying she/he still loved and missed him/her all along, and then the other one came to the rescue, and the following morning, both parties admitted they couldn’t hate each other after all these that had happened.
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wandering spot
February 3, 2021 at 9:46 AM
Episode 13 was the final straw. I understood then that I cant watch this anymore for this. Although for the time being I have kept the show on hold. In case if they ever decide to finally discuss the things I might give it a try. Till then no more of LIC.
Moko
February 3, 2021 at 7:48 PM
I started binging kdramas because the weekly schedule often makes me stop watching eventually. I read this drama only has 17 episodes that are 30 min long which basically makes it a 8.5 h drama, highly bingeable.
Even if the characters are a bit weird I still there is a lot that makes this drama special. The interview setup is a nice idea. I actually recognise some of the places they go to which is exciting. The colour palate is nice and the scenery always has a special mood. For some reason it always leaves me want to look at more stuff, even if its just their homes.
I think even if we want our drama characters to be the perfect adults, life surely is full of shitty adults. People cheat on each other, use each other, lie and do all kinds of shitty things. But here our main couple seems to slowly re-unite again...maybe... It's like a fairytale of 2nd chances.
I'm pretty sure she will give him a proper explanation. But from a writers standpoint putting it into later episodes seems logical because when he understands her he won't let her go and that's the end of the drama. For an 8h drama that seems like typical time management to me.
Healer’s
February 3, 2021 at 9:24 PM
@ Moko: I am glad you enjoy LITC. I really wanted to enjoy it and I did try hard. But it doesn’t work for me. You know, I love Wookie to the moon and back and I do wish for something good that can lift him up from the Melting and Backstreet mess.
But I respect others’ opinions, that’s why I am here in dramabeans. For the time being, I enjoy reading other beanies’ takes of LITC than watching the drama itself.
Moko
February 5, 2021 at 10:56 AM
@ Healer's: I saw Melting and I only made it to the second episode. Almost everything about that drama is off. I can't even watch it for Wookie's sake, so I understand your feelings.
But here we have some parts that are working. The editing, the directing, the acting, even the costumes. Even if the story and characters aren't what we are used to, it's much more cohesive.
Thanks for pointing out Backstreet I haven't checked that out yet. And well, thanks for respecting different opinions like mine ^.^ I hope he get's out of this drama slump and typecasting soon.
2 iamjustdanny
January 28, 2021 at 12:04 AM
I'm actually glad I picked this show back up. Stopped watching after episode 2, then waited a while until I got the itch to give it another try.
I'm caught up now and man, this is fun!
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3 iamjustdanny
January 28, 2021 at 12:06 AM
I loved the "He barged in my heart and just won't leave" and "he built a house in here and became the owner" lines!
I enjoyed it so much, I took a screen capture of it and showed it to a few of my buddies!
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4 shichybot
January 28, 2021 at 12:22 AM
Show is bad at writing female characters. Can’t seem to like any of them at all:
Eun Oh steals cameras and now an identity, too? I said it on twitter: this just screams single white female serial killer to me. Can’t understand the girl’s thought processes at all, and frankly I still don’t know what true self she has now that she was babbling about. (I’m gonna stop because I foresee @ltung23 laughing at me 😅)
Soon-young is just plain mean, making her exes strip on the street, getting mad jealous of boyfriend’s ex, etc.
Rini I used to like because she seemed to be the calm, rational one but the spraying cola for revenge scene soured me. There should have been a better way to deal with a friend’s cheating ex than that.
I can’t stop watching this drama for its ridiculousness at this point haha. I’m just wondering if show will really make Jae Won a martyr for taking back Eun Oh, and will she ever own up to the mistakes she made? All she does is run away and at that rooftop scene, I really expected her to jump off the roof (to safety ofc) or make a dash for it. 😂
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Healer’s
January 28, 2021 at 1:25 AM
Haha I agreed with every single word you said. Just that I couldn’t drop it, because of Wookie. So I am the insane one, not Eun-oh 😂
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Eazal
January 28, 2021 at 3:37 AM
You are so right about all FL. They are not very stable women.
The cola scene made me roll my eyes: she attacked a client in someone else's office because he had dumped and cheated on her friend... Was he mean? Yes. Did he deserve to be treated like trash? Yes. Do you make such an scene in someone else's workplace at risk of being charged and making that person lose a client? No. No. No.
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Healer’s
January 28, 2021 at 4:37 AM
Yeah I am at the stage of life when I really want to avoid those who behave so instinctively regardless of the context and others’ feeling, like shouting and stripping your boyfriend on the street, or pouring coke onto someone in someone else’s office... Is this show trying to depict mentally unstable female characters?
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junah
January 28, 2021 at 6:24 AM
well, i have friend who got cheated (they already talked about married and else) and the guy just missing like that (turn out he married the other girl because she was pregnant). sorry, but when your best friend was badly treated that way, humiliated that way, broke her heart that way to the point she damage her own self, yes, I would say that guy doesn't deserve any of my courtesy.
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LookieLooWho
January 28, 2021 at 5:45 AM
Thank you!! Eun Oh took the woman's name, personality, style of dress, and even her tattoos. That was on a whole other level for me. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery until it's creepy.
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Eazal
January 28, 2021 at 6:05 AM
The fact that she copied everything about that woman speak loads of how bad is EunOh. She didn’t fake the name and her style, no... she even copied her tatoos... that’s some crazy woman in need of help.
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junah
January 28, 2021 at 6:47 AM
well, it never said the character is perfect and all goody girl. we all know from the start, she's hiding something, and to be fair she's not identity theft. it's kind of creepy but looking from her perspective, it's not that weird. I remember one of Friends episode, where monica's identity was stolen (for real) and she was envy the way "monica" living her life and even went further as to actually tried being "monica". we all expect to be our best version. some people lucky enough to experience it, some people don't. Eun-oh, all of her life, trying to be good person, play by the book, being Innocent and shy girl. universe supposed to reward her, right ? but no. her fiancée made other women pregnant, she left her job for him but got cheated, she came to interview with suit and the one got accepted has tattoos and dress as she likes. her life was low at that time, and why we have to blame her to be a little bit crazy ? life problems hit people differently, and people deal with their problem differently also.
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knewbie
January 30, 2021 at 11:58 PM
Actually I'm a bit surprised that Eun-oh is getting so much flak for trying to imitate the real Yoon Sun-ah. Surely people have always aspired to be or to live like those whom they admire or envy, like artists living the bohemian life in a Parisian garret or Greenwich Village, or executives power-dressing and driving flashy cars. Eun-oh getting her hair done and a few fake tattoos, and only for a couple of months, seems pretty mild compared to, say, K-pop superfans.
As for taking the name "Yoon Sun-ah", I really really don't think Eun-oh was claiming to be THE Yoon Sun-ah working in Busan. She just needed a new name, and there must be many Yoon Sun-ahs in Korea.
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archisha
February 3, 2021 at 7:53 AM
I agree. And Eun-oh said she hated herself, and honestly, I get it. When you hate yourself, you just wanna be someone else; someone who is just... not you. This reminds of a time when I was 5 years old. Some lady had asked me my name and I lied, taking my cousin sister's name (same age as me) instead. Because even at that age, I was used to people, including my own parents, always praising her instead of me. She was a bright, confident girl and I was envious. She was talented; learning to dance and sing and paint and literally everything. I was shy, reserved and awfully slow. I wanted to be her. I wanted to know how it felt like. The path to loving myself just the way I am hasn't been easy, but I am at peace now.
ahjussi clown
January 28, 2021 at 8:52 AM
in show's defense, the manic pixie dream girl aka the OG seona from which eunoh stole her identity seems pretty cool and real. with her hair extensions and ...... hahaha kidding kidding. show can't even get side female characters right!!!
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
January 28, 2021 at 12:55 PM
I loved Rini for doing that, tbh. Because of that ass her bf dessapeared for 3 months. Eunho was going to marry him, she was going to move to Busan and that guy was busy getting another woman pregnant?
A little bit of cola is nothing.
I don't like Eunho and Soo Young, but I love Rini.
Ps. I think the show is bad at writting characters in general, not only the female ones. These boys aren't saints either.
Jae Won is... you know, Jae Won.
Kyung Joon stalked Rini in the past, and now he's lying to her about the things he gives her.
Geon... he's cool so far. I like him.
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suk
January 31, 2021 at 6:11 PM
LOL Geon really is the only sane character in this entire drama. It seems like he knows it too, but he stays for the charity work.
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5 gem28
January 28, 2021 at 12:41 AM
All of the female characters took a nose dive this week and by that I mean Rin-yi mostly, the other two were horrible from the get go. Eun Oh has issues and her backstory made me even more livid at her selfish, thoughtless behavior. She needs a therapist, love can't help her.
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Eazal
January 28, 2021 at 3:38 AM
Yes. Therapy. She needs urgent help. And yes. It's not JaeWon and his love what can help her.
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6 CustardHopia
January 28, 2021 at 12:55 AM
Dropping by to say that Geon is precious and must be protected at all costs ❤️
Also, Rin-yi does not want to get married because they never discussed it while Kyung-joon..? Uh oh.
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suk
January 31, 2021 at 6:12 PM
Rin-yi and Kyung-joon not discussing marriage gave me so much anxiety. Communication is key!! Here I was thinking their relationship seemed so perfect.
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7 Eazal
January 28, 2021 at 12:57 AM
I just don't want Jae Won and EunOh to end up together. It would be so toxic. I do hope they can learn from what happened and move on.
I can get the reasons why EunOh did what she did in the beginning, but as I've said so many times, my empathy with her ends the minute she abused JaeWon's love, knowing for sure how hurt he was.
When the question was asked on episode 11 of how breakups must be, I agreed with those who said that people should be clear about the reason even if it hurts both of them, and of course it should be done face to face. You don't have to make the other understand why you leave him, but you have to explain why: I don't love you, I can't be in a relationship with you, I need to focus on myself. Something JaeWon didn't get.
I have to say I'm liking more and more JCW and KJW's acting in these last episode (I didn't connect with any of them at the beginning), and I'm glad because I find both characters quite unlikable.
And a final comment about Run-I and KyeongJun... why do I have the feeling they won't end up together? It's not the fact that Run-I has said that she doesn't want to get married (you don't have to be married to live a long and happy life with your partner), it's just that I feel it's KJ the one who's making all the efforts in the relation, and not the other way round.
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Kafiyah Bello
January 28, 2021 at 6:39 AM
I think you are spot on about RI and KJ. He is already tamping down on the things he does and he shouldn't have to compromise his feelings or the things he does for her. You should never lose yourself in a relationship and it seems he is doing that for her. I actually like them together, but RI comes off slightly selfish. Lack of communication is the problem here.
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OldLawyer
January 28, 2021 at 1:28 PM
I have to agree with both of you about Rin-i and KJ. At some point KJ will simply throw in the towel and walk away. One of the things that really stick out is how little respect Rin-i has for KJ. He has to see that (it was amply demonstrated by her attacking his client in his workplace). I fear that the only reason he is still with her is the sheer effort he put into getting her. It is the psychological equivalent of the 'sunk cost fallacy'- once he finally acknowledges that this relationship will go no-where and she will never love him the way he loves her he will finally walk away.
Rin-i may claim that she does not know where he is coming from but in fact she does. I doubt she will grow up soon enough to avoid losing him- so a split is inevitable. KJ simply cannot be the only one putting in an effort forever.
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Eazal
January 28, 2021 at 1:59 PM
I just hope we don’t have another Because this is my first life, because once is enough for Kim Min Suk character to end up with the woman who would make him miserable while we are trying to be sold it’s love. Ha. My foot.
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OldLawyer
January 28, 2021 at 6:19 PM
I see what happens to Kim Min-suk's character in BECAUSE THIS IS MY FIRST LIFE in a different way- until the final episodes we saw both sides of that couple with unreal expectations of the wealth that he would create- even though he has zero business acumen. Finally they both decide to grow up and move forward based upon what is most important to them both. This is called maturity. In the final scene we see that they are in fact happily married with a baby. Although this cannot be shown at that moment, as a top developer Kim Min-suk's character is probably well on his way to achieving a modest measure of true wealth- not like a Chaebol but probably something that will eventually be somewhere North of middle class. To me that sort of commitment, trust and partnership between man and woman is indeed real love.
In this show I do not see this happening. Rin-i is simply manipulating KJ and at some point he will grow tired of it.
wandering spot
January 28, 2021 at 9:14 PM
Agree with you about Rini and KJ. I thought the were better as compared to other couples but after the last episode, I realized they also have so many issues. Rin I came off as a bit selfish and self centered. It's okay to not wanting to get married but didn't she think its important to discuss it with KJ? Same goes for the night stand too. She could have said to KJ if she doesn't want him to buy her things instead of trying to sell it off.
And also how KJ downplayed the rate of the night stand. They are in a relation for 5+years and still they doesn't know each other well. These were the few things that bugged me about these couples.
Let's see what the show has in store for these two......
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knewbie
February 3, 2021 at 2:58 AM
But KJ obviously knows very well that she doesn't want him to buy her things. If he didn't, he wouldn't have staged that elaborate charade of buying a nice but not so nice nightstand and claiming that it was a used item from some open house event. Since he took so much trouble to convince her that it was just another second-hand piece of furniture, little wonder that she assumed she could do whatever she liked with it.
Also, if KJ himself has never mentioned marriage, it doesn't seem fair to expect RY to do so. Why should the onus of introducing the topic be on her, especially when she's not even interested in getting married?
I don't think RY is selfish or taking advantage of KJ. On the contrary, because of his lies, she believes that they are equals in the relationship - eg he buys her bread, she buys him lunch at his office etc. I agree that the relationship is far from perfect, but it's KJ I find more problematic. In fact, his efforts to control how RY perceives him seem like a subtler and much more sustained version of Eun-oh's performance for Jae-won in Yangyang.
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Eazal
February 3, 2021 at 5:00 AM
Exactly this. Me too.
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dreamy1111
January 28, 2021 at 10:40 PM
Even though I can't understand LEO. I still want Jaewon to be happy. So I still wish for a happy ending.
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8 Kurama
January 28, 2021 at 2:11 AM
Aaaaaaaah (me screaming of the frustration)
I knew that Park Jae-Won will be nice and it's so frustrating. I didn't want him to scream or anything like that. I wanted him to have a honest conversation with her. But the fact he made like he didn't know each other shows that he doesn't want to hurt her in front of her friends.
What happened to Lee Eun-O was painful and I understand she wanted to be someone new. But she didn't have to involve someone else in this big lie. She got plenty occasions to tell him the truth, to apologize, to explain herself, etc. But she didn't because she's a coward who thinks only about herself.
I think they will make them dating at the end and it will be the worse decision, I don't think she can make me forget what she did in the past.
I don't like her with Kang Geon neither, he's kinda her punching ball more than her friend.
Suh Rin-I's decision to not marry is not an issue but the fact she didn't talk about it to her boyfriend is kinda weird. He has " I want to marry and to have the perfect family" written on his face...
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Healer’s
January 28, 2021 at 2:39 AM
Maybe episode 12 will be spent on Eun-oh’s honest conversation with Jae-won before he decides it’s the end to their relationship, then the rest of the drama will be spent on Eun-oh trying to win Jae-won over again? 😅😂
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Kurama
January 28, 2021 at 2:47 AM
At this point, except giving him a kidney, I don't see what she could do :p
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wandering spot
January 28, 2021 at 3:23 AM
It should be like what you have said but with the route the show is taking it can be the other way around too. Jae won is still madly in love and the show might make him chase her after hearing the full backstory🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
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Healer’s
January 28, 2021 at 4:40 AM
Yes, that’s what I wish the show would do, but we should be expecting the worst 😅
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Kurama
January 28, 2021 at 4:52 AM
Both will be disapointing u_u
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OldLawyer
January 28, 2021 at 12:28 PM
I disagree with the idea that Jae-won will be chasing Eun-oh. He cannot trust her at this point. His chasing her would not change that and the show cannot get around that simple fact- and that is why Eun-oh is the one who now has both of their rings.
Jae-won would simply have to be crazy to chse her at this point- and the show has been quite clear about the fact that he has now chosen not to be crazy, even if he is still not completely over her.
Eun-oh made this mess, not Jae-won. Eun-oh is the only one who can fix this. She can and should try to do so, given that she has not been able to get him out of her heart.
Of course, it won't work unless Jae-won can grow as a man and learn to understand her - and accept her actual imperfect self. He has everything to gain if he does, including not just her in his life but becoming better in his relations with other people as well.
Logically the rest of the show would then be a redemption arc for Eun-oh, as he learns the full truth and she shows him that the only thing fake about what happened on Jejudo was her name.
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wandering spot
January 28, 2021 at 8:56 PM
I do hope the show takes the path you mentioned....
9 LookieLooWho
January 28, 2021 at 5:49 AM
Isn't this drama supposed to be multi-seasons? Have we moved into another season yet?
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Eazal
January 28, 2021 at 6:06 AM
No that I know. Last episode is on Friday.
It better not be multi seasons as I’m only watching because it was 13 episodes.
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mindy
January 28, 2021 at 7:55 AM
It's 17 episodes according to what I see on Netflix. I think original reports said 16.
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Eazal
January 28, 2021 at 9:24 AM
My comment is wrong. It was supposed to be 12, that’s what Asianwiki says, and that’s what I always believed, but now I’ve just checked on Netflix and Wikipedia and yes, it’s 16 episodes.
It means they are going to end up together, aren’t they? 😕
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LookieLooWho
January 28, 2021 at 10:25 AM
Let's hope so. At least that way they can keep their crazy to themselves. Even in a fictional world, I don't want to unleash all that on other unsuspecting people.
OldLawyer
January 28, 2021 at 12:48 PM
Netflix actually now indicates 17 episodes- so yes they end up together - and I am going to guess that Rin-i and her guy first blow apart- but this time it is Kyung-joon who has walked away over Rin-i's determination not to marry, followed by her taking some serious time to make sure that is what she wants (and maybe it is). a seventeenth episode may actually be needed for resolution of that issue.
shichybot
January 28, 2021 at 8:38 PM
@evan85, that's so funny haha. Eun-Oh and Jae-won should end up to keep the crazy to themselves. But what if they procreate tho? Have a brood of 12? (0.0)
10 junah
January 28, 2021 at 6:01 AM
Finally the story went to right direction. I like the show kind of returning to usual kdrama story. And in a glimpse, I found Kim Ji Won as Choi Aera (!) when she in her craziness advertising the drink, out nowhere shout out to applicant at job interview. Honestly, I like this version of Eun-oh, not before holiday, not at holiday, but exactly this version. Eun-oh at holiday seemed to hard to be cool girl, but Eun-oh who's going back from holiday and broke out a guy's heart is not trying to be anyone but herself, a her damage version, a her stronger version, a her weak version, and her vulnerable version. Now she seems a lot more real character to me. I kind of understand where Eun-oh came from. Some people creates their alter ego to liberate themselves. She was heartbroken, and every aspect in her life was falling apart. She took time to break from her real self, an unsatisfying version of her. She didn't expect to fall in love when she was playing a role, but she did. She was still in her second act when she met him but she couldn't break her scene. by the time she finished her own play, the damage has been done. Was she a bitch? maybe. But many people come to new relationship with package and far from perfect self. It is unfortunate for him, but I won't go as far as he's being deceived or how Eun-oh being unfair to him. Jae won is a collateral damage of Eun-oh self healing journey. She didn't plan it, it just happened. Is it necessary for her to explain it to him and give him closure ? of course, but Eun-oh is not perfect also. With her past, she's also a broken person that need to be fix first. She needs to do it in her own pace, because it's not only about jae won heart, but also her heart. maybe not many realized, but sometime it is also hard for people who lie, there is always cry behind the lie. Eun oh also got her heart broken. Jaewon fall in love with her fake self. it is same like he fall in love with someone else. eon oh might as well have unrequited love for him. their relationship is doomed anyway since it based on false pretenses. it's a good thing they finally broke it; now they are ready for the real one. I am glad the writing went to Jaewon to take first step to really know Eun Oh again. although, I doubt whether he will fall with Eun Oh on the same way he fall for the free spirited girl on the beach (which in my personal opinion, is so eye-roll-emoji. why man always think cool girl exist ? they are not. )
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OldLawyer
January 28, 2021 at 2:09 PM
One of the most important things were learned in this episode- beyond simply the reason she adopted a fake persona and went to Jejudo- was Eun-oh's realization that she had fooled herself all along- that when she had been with Jae-won she had actually become her real self- not entirely what she had been before but also not the 'free-spirited girl' persona either. She really wasn't as fake with him as she had assumed that she was. Remember, her friends have all noted that when she came back after three months she had changed- she was neither what she had been before nor was she fake 'free spirited girl' either, just more herself. It is this fundamental truth- that Jae-won was not simply in love with a 'free spirited girl' image but actually, by the end of that time, with her (but still under a fake name) which is the real crux of this matter. He still does not know this- so she will have to show him. But at least, finally, she does understand this, so she has a solid place to start from.
So they are not really starting entirely from scratch but that does not mean it is all destined to work out- but it does mean that it will take some serious effort for that to happen. Jae-won is deeply hurt with good reason.
This story is different from the standard rom-com. While originally it was indeed Jae-won who pursued Eun-oh that is in the past. Now it is Eun-oh who has to pursue.
Rin-i and KJ represent the extreme other case- KJ pursued Rin-i for a longtime and she is, in effect, making sure that things stay that way- she still holds the whip hand in their relationship. At some point KJ will stop from exhaustion and simply walk away.
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11 Kafiyah Bello
January 28, 2021 at 6:36 AM
I actually don't mind any of the female leads. I think they all need to work through their issues, but I like them generally. They are all scared of love even when it is right in front of them, so they try to sabotage it ahead of time. They are all also girl's girls. So often in kdramas the boys are boy's boys, but now it is the girls that are different. They have all supported each other in one way or another. The fact that they are bad in relationships doesn't make them terrible people, just human. I like that the writer shows both their good and terrible sides. That being said
Rini: She is doing KJ dirty. She doesn't seem to discuss fundamental life decisions with him. He obviously earnestly loves her so much so that he lies about the nice things he does for her. KJ doesn't deserve any of that. That fact that even her closest friends of years don't know she doesn't want to be married is a red flag. KJ needs a break from her and Rini needs therapy to work through why she thinks the way she does. Not necessarily because she doesn't want to be married but because she hasn't told KJ.
Eun Oh: Girl, apologize fully in all the forms you know how. Write him a letter, leave him a voicemail, shout from the rooftops. He deserves better than the way she has treated him.
As for Seon Young she makes me laugh. She is so petty. She needs to work on that. She is clearly insecure about Geon having his best friends be girls and living with one of them. Is it possible for guys/girls to be friends? Absolutely. Is it also possible for them to be more than friends? Absolutely. That being said she needs to learn how to trust her partner and understand that in this case Geon is the former and not that latter. So her insecurity is unwarranted because Geon is honestly a treasure of a character and I am sad we got to know so little of him.
Sorry for the long post, lol.
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Eazal
January 28, 2021 at 7:48 AM
You just nailed it!
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OldLawyer
January 28, 2021 at 1:11 PM
Long posts are fine, particularly if you take care to organize your thoughts- which you certainly did. So I applaud your long post.
You are right about Seon-young- she is petty and not just insecure but immature. Breaking up by having her guy public strip? Such public humiliation may be effective but that is no excuse. It is childish- and that is how I see her, as a child who refuses to grow up, the female version of Peter Pan.
Rin-i is indeed doing KJ dirty. Here too we have childishness- amply demonstrated by the she attacked Eun-oh's ex at KJ's place of work. However we may have enjoyed it we also have to acknowledge that it showed now respect for KJ. KJ does not deserve this and I suspect that part of the reason we are seeing this is that he is about to hit the breaking point. That is when Rin-i may finally have to face the truth about what sh has been doing- and ask herself what she really wants.
As for Eun-oh- an apology alone will not be enough. This will take more than just an apology. She is going to have to not just really explain but also show him that the only fake thing back on Jejudo was her name. She is also going to to have to explain that the reason it took so long was that she did not understand that herself until now.
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Kafiyah Bello
January 28, 2021 at 1:35 PM
Your point about Eun-oh is well said and I agree.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
January 28, 2021 at 1:13 PM
Actually, the fact that even her closest friends of years don't know she doesn't want to be married makes me think that aspect isn't relevant to her. And the fact that she has never talked about it with her boyfriend makes me think that, probably, she thinks that he thinks like her.
I think we need to hear the whole story, before saying that she need therapy.
Ps. After all the trouble between the leads, I thought we all would agreed that KJ shouldn't LIE to his girlfriend. If what he's doing is "so nice" why can't he just tell her? Maybe because it isn't, maybe because he knows he should talk to her before buying those expensive things and then watch her sell them for nothing.
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Kafiyah Bello
January 28, 2021 at 1:43 PM
I hear(or read lol) what you are saying, but I don't think she needs therapy because she doesn't want to get married but because it doesn't seem to have occurred to her that her boyfriend might want too, also that it doesn't occur to her that he might care if she doesn't want to marry him. We do need to hear the whole story, but my comment is based on what has been provided.
As for your PS, I totally agree, he shouldn't lie. However, he isn't telling her the truth because he wants to give her a gift that she will like without her getting mad at him for spending the money. It is nice what he is doing. He got her a gift he knew she needed, he got her a new one because it will last longer, and he also just wanted to give a gift to his girlfriend. The fact that she doesn't like what she considers expensive gifts is an issue Rini has, that he believes he can get around by simply lying to her. That is not good, but that may be how he knows to give gifts.
Sorry for the long answer, lol, but I wanted my disagreement to be clear. 😁
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
January 28, 2021 at 2:06 PM
I understand, I just think it may be hard to consider that something is important to someone, when that thing isn't important to us (even if it is important in our society). But I'm also commenting based in that scene and my experience. So we have to wait and see, hehe.
We don't know much about the other 4 characters so I'm not sure what to think about KJ's lie, tbh. Probably you're right... Well, we have to wait and see. 🤷
Don't worry about the long answer, I understand you better now and that's what matters.
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Kafiyah Bello
January 28, 2021 at 6:44 PM
Okay, cool. That is fair, I never thought of it that way, but it is true that just because something is important to you doesn't mean it is important to everyone, so you don't think of it that way.
dreamy1111
January 28, 2021 at 11:48 PM
gosh, I can't agree more on all you have said.
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12 OldLawyer
January 28, 2021 at 8:59 AM
First of all, three cheers for Rin-i. I mean it. Yes, it was irresponsible- and damaging to Jae-won's company- and if she had consulted with me as a lawyer beforehand (not possible in this scenario) I would have definitely told her not to do it. And yet it was so much the right thing to do- because Eun-oh's ex had it coming. His thoughtless cruelty to Eun-oh cried out for retribution.
Meanwhile, there is the simple truth that two wrongs do not make a right. What happened the ex did to Eun-oh did not justify what Eun-oh did to Jae-won. While she did not set on in the beginning to hurt someone when she changed her name and disappeared to Jejudo there should have come a moment when she realized that her fling had turned serious- like maybe the moment when Jae-won proposed.
That is when she should have 'come clean'. If she had explained at that moment why she had assumed a new name it would probably not have caused a problem at all. Jae-won would probably have simply been sympathetic- and even amused (that would have been my reaction if I were in his shoes).
I am not sure that the writer gets the psychology of this situation right. We actually warn people against the dangers of a "rebound" relationship- where someone rushes into a new relationship blindly and regrets it later. But these two people actually spent a lot of time together (in total hours) and actually got to know each other. You could say that the heavens had stepped in and put Eun-oh with someone she really could marry (and did- even if it was not registered and legalized). So what she did- which was running away- made no sense.
The fact that Jae-won found out the truth after an entire year was simply ugly. The roots of love are trust. How can he trust this woman in the future? So his reaction at the rooftop party makes total sense. As much as she still means to him he is trying hard to stick to his decision that this is over. I am glad that he has made that decision, and is trying to stick to it even as his fishing for the ring he threw away tells us that his heart is not in it. I am not that anxious to see Eun-oh suffer but maybe that very suffering will lead her to value him and be truthful with him. It is a way of showing her how important he is to her, even as his suffering over the past year has proven her importance to him. In any case Eun-oh has some serious work to do if she wants to get her husband back. Rebuilding trust is hard.
So, it looks like this show will have enough episodes for Eun-oh to redeem herself. I have enough sympathy for her to hope she can do it. At the same time, she deserves to have a tough time of it, yet I also hope that Jae-won can be a big enough man to acknowledge that this is the woman he wants to be with- and not just give in but listen and try to understand. Just as he had built a home in her heart so she has built a home in his. She is imperfect- but we are all imperfect. We would not need someone to...
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LookieLooWho
January 28, 2021 at 10:33 AM
One attorney to another: could you imagine how much the drama landscape would change if just one character consulted an attorney first?
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OldLawyer
January 28, 2021 at 11:30 AM
We would lose about 90% of the plots. It is a tribute to the fact that the law does have an answer for everything that we would still have the other 10%.
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OldLawyer
January 28, 2021 at 10:59 AM
We would not need someone to love if we were perfect.
Now that Eun-oh has finally realized that the fake name was really the only lie that she told I have changed my mind and now want our couple back together. She has acknowledged that she was not being a fake other person when she was with Jae-won: Instead it as Jae-won he helped her find her real self. Armed with this new self knowledge she can finally take action. It will not be easy but I hope that Jae-won can grow into a bigger man and forgive her. He needs more of the truth- he needs to know that it really wasn't all fake, just messed up. If can take on the responsibility of understanding this imperfect woman that he fell in love with then it can work out very well- and he will obtain his heart's desire.
This means I have actually changed my mind about our OTP. Now let us see how it plays out.
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LookieLooWho
January 29, 2021 at 4:46 AM
If I may play devil's advocate to myself here, being in the "don't reunite" camp, what if this "separation" was actually the healthiest thing for them both? Jae Won clearly put Eun-Oh on a pedestal and at a level that no real person could maintain. His idea of her was just as bad as the behavior what we've seen manifest in the past year. Now, Eun Oh has been humanized. She is not, in fact, perfect and has several flaws. All of the above applies to Eun Oh regarding Jae Won. These two now know their respective partners are indeed human. That's good and a much better place than the fantasy lovers they created.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
January 28, 2021 at 1:30 PM
I agree with you.
1. What Rini did was irresponsible but it felt so good. Besides, if that guy and his lover (wife) have a little of conscious and shame, they won't make a big deal about it.
2. After that bar scene a few episodes ago, I don't think I'll ever like Eunho, but for Jae Won sake I hope she figures herself out.
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Kafiyah Bello
January 28, 2021 at 1:46 PM
I love this analysis. What she was incredibly ugly and that is the word for it.
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13 ahjussi clown
January 28, 2021 at 9:29 AM
after liking show last week 'cause of the sherlockian mystery "why did eunoh ghost?" and the rare chance that show can be an elaborate allegory to modern online dating ...... i hate the show again haha. seriously, has there been a show that has been more up-and-down roller coaster and infuriating than this one?
so like a few on DB, i actually started the show sympathizing for eunoh 'cause it felt like she was struggling with something, jaewon didn't bother to learn more about her before dropping the L-word, she was almost pressured to marry him, and breaking up is her right (although the way she ghosted was wrong, no argument for her from me there). but as show has gone on and started explaining her motivations, it's become worse and more illogical, at least for me. so she followed her ex to busan but found out he knocked up another woman, she lost her hotel job, she went to the beach and fell in love with a pushy but still loving, loyal man, she STILL LOVES HIM in seoul treasuring the cameras and rings, but she chooses to ghost him 'cause ... she stole someone's identity? is jobless? is living with a man? i'm trying to understand her insecurities or whatnot, but it's proving difficult cause it's all sounding like the ultimate form of CRAZY noble idiocy. with show's explanation, shouldn't eunoh appreciate jaewon more, not less? did they not even talk about themselves for 2 months and just made surfboards and make out all day? the explanation even feels makjang, e.g., did she really have to randomly lose her hotel job too, writer-nim!?
i like all the "eunosh is a serial killer or a north korean spy" theories of fellow beanies more hehe.
but i keep watching 'cause of 2 reasons:
1) the directing, format (only 30 minutes!) and docu style are still top notch. they add a lot of intentional and unintentional humor to show. @shichybot and i have (you're gonna hate me for revealing this haha) likened this to a "guy with a hot bod," like JCW. you can't help but look and admire, but in the long run, one needs more (60 minutes? good writing? actual love? substance? hehe) to be satisified.
2) this is the first kdrama that feels like its having the characters intentionally make me angry to capture my attention/rating. there are a lot of angry guys like jaewon and insecure gals like eunoh in kdrama land, but by ep4, we love them 'cause of x, y and z. this show is inspiring me to hate watch with every reveal ("wait, cute rini doesn't want to get married like tami in search:www?")! so i now call LitC the "donald trump of kdrama" (or whatever anger-for-ratings president resides in your country), the ultimate troll to make me press that Netflix play button haha.
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shichybot
January 28, 2021 at 8:59 PM
Hahaha! Omg, my usually calm and cheerful ahjussi has been reduced to describing show to that orange fellow! Haha! Show ended ep 11 with a cliffhanger and as much as I agree with the hot bod analogy and some twits saying the leads did amazing "eye acting", we need words and scenarios that make sense. Makes for a fun discussion though, if you don't let the frustration get to you.
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Healer’s
January 29, 2021 at 1:33 AM
Haha both of you spoke my mind, adjussi clown and shichybot 😄 PS: I don’t think KJW’s eye acting was that great. JCW was great as always, but Jae-won is too loud for my taste 😙
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14 tabong is ironing the crosswalk
January 28, 2021 at 1:45 PM
A question: why all the hate to ONLY the female characters?
There's no saint in this drama: the male lead also has a bad personality and his cousin is lying to the girlfriend he stalked in the past. Nobody's perfect.
So why all the comments treating the female characters like the monsters from Sweet Home? Chill people.
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LookieLooWho
January 29, 2021 at 5:02 AM
I'm not really sure but it might be that the women are more prevalent or have more dynamic personalities here? Which they definitely should not be castigated for. The men, with exception for Jae Won because he's titular, are pretty secondary. Geon, we know as the token guy friend to all the girls. Outside of two facts (broke writer & failed relationship), we don't know much about him. Kyung Jun is the caretaker of the core quartet. He's responsible for them all and Jae Won. Jae Won is Jae Won, enough said. None of these women are defined by any one of these men. Quite frankly, there's a whole Girlfriends/Sex in the City-esque show embedded in the three alone. Unfortunately, strong flawed women make easy targets.
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tabong is ironing the crosswalk
January 29, 2021 at 10:45 AM
I think I get what you're saying.
We have seen more of the girls as individuals and we have heard their perspectives. But that doesn't mean we have the right to point out their flaws and treat them as the worst when we know that they are more than that (not talking about Eunho here, even tho I didn't like people calling her crazy).
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15 NewFan
January 28, 2021 at 2:19 PM
A lot of people who call Eun-oh crazy may be unaware about the psychology behind escapism and self-detrimental behavior. By what little we have gathered about her original self, I'm assuming she had a weak personality and low self-esteem and felt like a failure despite all the planning and seemingly perfect life after her ex-fiance cheated. Such personalities don't face reality but become detrimental and find temporary pleasure as a coping mechanism. That's exactly what she did - she ran away from everything that would remind her of herself - the city, her friends, her personality. Usually, people would cry, talk to friends, seek help and move on. But she was messed up and when that happens we are slaves to our mind and emotions. She sought refuge in a stranger's love and affection - something she may have not got in her previous relationship. She said that she isn't saying no anymore or isn't making plans anymore, it shows that this vacation affair was a part of her unhealthy coping mechanism without her realizing that she is damaging another person. Her behavior after the vacation was again a life of denial that she actually loved him. She ran away again instead of confronting him. Why she doesn't get back? Because running away is easier, she knows he loves the personality he met on the beach who was level-headed, confident, and free-spirited. She firmly believes he will hate her let alone love her for her real self - a messed up, confused person picking up pieces to rebuild her life and who has added guilt to her problems by lying and ditching JW leaving him to suffer in the most horrible way. She may not have got back to him because she now fears being in a relationship, especially one that was built on a vacation on pretense when she wasn't emotionally or mentally stable. If she couldn't disclose her breakup to her closest friends, I don't think she would reveal to a man whom she wronged. She might confuse him further by confessing her feelings to him. Right now, I think she believes she doesn't deserve him and doesn't want to make him a part of her mess so she's pushing him away. All JW is right now is curious and angry. None of this is an excuse for hurting JW and he didn't deserve to be a rebound option. The truth would have given him a closure and he wouldn't have to had to suffer so much. As of now, JW can move on - all he has to do is blame her and rightly so. But Eun-oh's only option is to blame herself, keep her feelings to herself, and live in guilt which is too harsh a punishment for someone who made a mess because of her psychological issues.
The only way I think JW and Eun-Oh can get together in a healthy relationship is if they behave like mature adults and understand each other and get to know each other instead of being impulsive teenagers. He needs to realize that people like Yoon Seon-a DON'T EXIST just like prince charmings and perfect princesses. He met a fantasy and fell in love with it. Eun-Oh is...
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archisha
February 3, 2021 at 8:09 AM
I agree with this completely.
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16 FanNew
January 28, 2021 at 2:47 PM
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17 FanNew
January 28, 2021 at 2:57 PM
A lot of people who call Eun-oh crazy may be unaware about the psychology behind escapism and self-detrimental behavior. People with weak personality and low self-esteem don't confront the problem but become detrimental and find temporary pleasure as a coping mechanism. She ran away from everything that would remind her of herself. She was messed up and when that happens we are slaves to our mind and emotions. She sought refuge in a stranger's love - something she may have not got earlier. The vacation affair was an unhealthy coping mechanism without realizing she is damaging another person. Her behavior after the vacation was again a runaway instead of confronting him. she doesn't get back because running away is easier, she knows he loves the personality he met on the beach who was level-headed, confident, and free-spirited. She firmly believes he will not love her real self - a messed up, confused person picking up pieces to rebuild her life and who has added guilt to her problems and lied and ditched JW leaving him to suffer in the most horrible way. If she couldn't disclose her breakup to her closest friends, I don't think she would reveal to a man whom she wronged. She might confuse him further by confessing her feelings to him. I think she believes she doesn't deserve him and doesn't want to give excuses so she's pushing him away. All JW is right now is curious and angry. None of this is an excuse for hurting JW and using him as a rebound. The truth would have given him a closure. JW can now move on - all he has to do is blame her and rightly so. But Eun-oh's only option is to blame herself, keep her feelings to herself, and live in guilt which is too harsh a punishment for someone who made a mess because of her psychological issues.
The only way I think JW and Eun-Oh can get together in a healthy relationship is if they behave like mature adults and understand each other and get to know each other instead of being impulsive teenagers. He needs to realize that people like Yoon Seon-a DON'T EXIST just like prince charmings and perfect princesses. He met a fantasy and fell in love with it. Every woman JW finds will be more like Eun-Oh than YS - confused, battling personally and professionally, learning from mistakes. Eun-Oh is accepting reality and is figuring out how to clear up this mess. I really hope she puts in effort to help him love and trust again.
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junah
January 28, 2021 at 6:39 PM
Finally, some common sense. I am kind of surprise how much hate eun oh received for being a real human being character here, a complexe person with flaw. And even more surprise much of beanies expect the characters to be one dimensional, a righteous person that God forbid to have smallest reason to break someone heart without her being called crazy or should get her mental check. Many relationships are messy and complicated, and not just simple understanding or caring or communicate. Here the show tries to humanize it, and people quick to jump to hate wagon cause Oppa is not deserved to be hurt. Well, for me, he's kind of deserved it for being stupid. He just met her, barely know her, only with her for three months, fall in love too quickly. 3 months and he's acting like she tricked her for 20 years of relationship. Mental damage ? Compare to eun oh that got cheated by fiancee, i say his problem is peanut. Get over it and move on. Stop being so miserable and pitiful. And you are correct, he fall in love with fantasy. Maybe that's why i never really invested with their 3 months love story.
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Healer’s
January 29, 2021 at 1:43 AM
I think beanies understand this, but they are angry because they cannot root for such a female lead. Like with Jin-Ah in Pretty Noona. And as far as I understand, viewers do not like or praise Jae-won either. He is imperfect for sure. But he is not the one who hurts someone else in the process of finding his identity.
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deltadragon23
January 30, 2021 at 12:19 AM
Thanks for this insightful comments. I feel like there's a lot of judgement in this comment section (and YouTube as well) of Lee Eun-o.
I feel a lot of empathy for Lee Eun-o and can relate. I can sometimes doubt if people who have met me when I'm one version of yourself will still like and accept me if I am no longer the version they initially met. I feel like I'm a COMPLETELY different person when I travel or live abroad. I am adventurous, free-spirited, and fun-loving. Sometimes I have feared that the people I dated or befriended during my times abroad would have a difficult time understanding how I can become pretty introverted and a workaholic during periods when I have a normal, stable job. I almost feel ashamed, wondering if I presented a fake version of myself. But that version isn't fake per say, it's just not the entirety of who I am. I theorize that it's the same for Lee Eun-o. She has to become confident that who she was as Yoon Seung-ah is part of who she is, but that traits from before and after she took on the persona (more accommodating, more pensive/serious) are also a part of who she is and aren't things to feel inferior about.
I feel a similar feeling happens when we first date people. Many of us present the "best" versions of ourselves or project the people who we aspire to be. But...we all have flaws and darker sides. They come out even fiercer when we feel stressed, fearful, and cornered. Don't we all, in a way, become anxious whether or not people we've just met but love will be able to accept us when we're not our best? Perhaps even at our worst?
I feel like that's what Lee Eun-o is feeling, this mixture of shame and fear. And when, as humans, we get scared, we either fight or we flee. Lee Eun-o chooses to flee. It might not be the choice that is healthiest, but many people, when scared and emotional, don't make the best choices. It's instinctual.
Our girl could use a heavy dose of therapy, but then, most people in this world do. I am sad to see how heavily this character is judged when I think a part of her exists inside all of us. We should be encouraging Lee Eun-o to build healthier self-esteem and to learn to better accept her real, whole, and multi-faceted self, not tear her down.
Last, I just want to say that the fact that Eun-o is complicated and not "perfect" is exactly WHY I love this drama. K-Dramas are obsessed with depicting ideal characters and I think it's a lot more difficult, but also more meaningful to create complex and realistic characters that actually mirror the real world. Thumbs up writer-nim!
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beffels
January 30, 2021 at 1:08 AM
I feel bad for her too, though I do think she let things go for too long, both when she was being Yoon Seon-ah and when she was back to her life and knew he was miserable. I can see it as the same sort of panic that makes people ignore debts hoping they’ll magically go away instead of dealing with them - and of course they don’t and the problem gets worse.
She didn’t behave well but it wasn’t out of maliciousness.
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18 beffels
January 28, 2021 at 4:25 PM
I like this show so much more now things are happening and it’s not just “look at us frolic lovingly on the beach”.
It’s interesting that the manic pixie dream girl-ness at the start felt (to me) overdone and fake, and then it turns out that it was in fact fake, and she was pretending to be like that. So maybe not just bad acting/directing? 😅
In real life I would want them to all just leave each other alone for their mental health, but because it’s a kdrama I will allow them to reconcile 😄
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19 Wordless
January 29, 2021 at 8:50 AM
I sincerely hope Eun-oh and Jae-won don't get back together though I reckon that's the direction the show is going. I just don't find her sympathetic at all. Sure she got her heart broken before but she essentially catfished Jae-won and hasn't had the decency to offer him an explanation. I think I'm just watching this now because I wanna know how everyone else will react when they find out that Eun-oh is Yeon-a.
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