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Flower of Evil: Episode 9

The bond between husband and wife is in tatters after years of lies come to light, but one of them isn’t ready to let go yet. It’s a race against time and each other to solve an old mystery that’s made its way into the present, with more than just their lives on the line.

EPISODE 9 RECAP

When Hee-sung and Ji-won first bought their house, Hee-sung had surprised Ji-won with a fancy meal and twinkle lights all over the room. Heavily pregnant with Eun-ha, Ji-won had asked her belly if she liked it, then had grabbed Hee-sung’s hand so he could feel the baby kicking in response.

He was clearly still a bit awkward about feelings, but a look of wonder had crossed his face and he’d said it was strange to think of a living being growing inside Ji-won. She’d told him to say something to the baby, so he knelt and gently caressed her belly, then told the baby that he hung yellow wallpaper in it’s room. Hee, such an awkward sweetheart.

Looking over the elaborate meal Hee-sung made, Ji-won murmured that she’s always receiving from him, never giving. She asked if there’s anything he wanted from her, and he said there is.

In the present, Ji-won shows up at Moo-jin’s apartment, and Hee-sung reveals himself to her. He says he was talking to Moo-jin about what kind of metalworker Do Min-seok was, and Ji-won fusses at Moo-jin for hiding the fact that Hee-sung was with him. LOL, poor Moo-jin, every time he’s with these two he ends up getting lectured.

Ji-won lets herself in and the guys freak out, knowing that Hae-soo is inside. Ji-won doesn’t recognize her right away, and Hae-soo has to remind her that they’ve met before. Ji-won says that Hae-soo was a lot colder and uncooperative that time, and Hae-soo meekly apologizes. Hae-soo claims that this is her first time meeting Hee-sung, which Ji-won knows is a lie since she knows they’re siblings.

She sees the notes that Moo-jin was writing on the windows. Ji-won suggests they work together since they’re all trying to catch the accomplice, and she asks what the note “trap” means. Moo-jin explains that Do Min-seok liked setting traps so he may have done the same for his victims, but Hee-sung gives him a subtle head-shake so he says they got the information from Hae-soo.

Dr. Baek gives the now-conscious, real HEE-SUNG (Kim Ji-hoon) an examination, while his wife shakes nervously behind him. Hee-sung can barely move, but he manages to whisper, “Mom… Mom… It wasn’t your fault…” Mom sobs that she’s sorry, and Hee-sung asks about the person he hit with his car that night.

Ji-won listens to the recording of the accomplice’s voice, focusing on the tapping noise in the background. She thinks it’s too irregular to be a machine but doesn’t have any ideas, so she offers to have it run through a service that analyzes recordings for the police.

Hae-soo suddenly says she has to go, and Ji-won asks if she really wants to catch the accomplice. She points out that it might be Do Hyun-soo, but Hae-soo insists that it’s not, “The Hyun-soo I know would never do that.” Ji-won retorts bitterly, “I feel like the Do Hyun-soo that you know is very different from the Do Hyun-soo that I know.”

She reveals that she met his childhood therapist, who believes that as an adult, Hyun-soo is probably very good at manipulating people. Ji-won even saw video of the boy admitting to killing a classmate’s dog because it would be too hard to get rid of a human body, but Hae-soo snaps again that Hyun-soo wouldn’t do that.

She says it’s more likely that Do Min-seok did it, so Ji-won asks why Hyun-soo would confess to something his father did. Hae-soo says she’d like to ask him the same question, as Hee-sung grows more and more uncomfortable. Ji-won asks if she has something to say, and Hae-soo replies, “Yes, I want you to know what I did, and not Hyun-soo.”

She starts to confess that she killed the village foreman, so Hee-sung knocks his coffee onto Moo-jin’s laptop as a distraction. It works — Moo-jin whines over the laptop and kicks everyone out. In the car, Hee-sung apologizes to Ji-won for not telling her he was helping Moo-jin. She says distractedly that she doesn’t tell him everything either.

Hae-soo tells Moo-jin that she’s sure she saw the accomplice, and she thinks hypnosis might help her remember him. Moo-jin asks what she’ll do if it works and Hyun-soo doesn’t need her anymore, but she says, “If Hyun-soo doesn’t need me anymore, I’ll do what I had to do. Something I should have done but didn’t.”

Ji-won is distracted on the drive to work, thinking about how Jae-seob said that Do Min-seok must have met with his accomplice twice on the night that Mi-sook was abducted — once to give him his car keys, and again to get the keys back. She asks Hee-sung how he would have done it if he were Do Min-seok, using his son as an alibi and letting someone else use his car to abduct victims.

She says he had to have given the accomplice his keys in person, and runs down the list of things Min-seok and Hyun-soo did that night… an art gallery, dinner, a drink at a bar, then a late movie. Hee-sung remembers doing each of those things with his father, and he gets so distracted that he almost hits a pedestrian.

As he’s apologizing to Ji-won, he notices that she’s not wearing her wedding ring. She says she took it off at work to wash her hands and left it behind, and that it took a surprisingly short amount of time to get used to not having it on.

Alone together, the real Hee-sung asks slowly why Dr. Baek didn’t answer his calls that night of the accident. When his father says he was busy, Hee-sung asks, “Was it more important than your own son?” He asks if he’ll be able to walk again, and Dr. Baek says he’ll be able to walk, get a job, marry a good woman, and even have a lovely daughter: “That life can be yours, too.” ~shudder~

Ji-won arrives home after work to find that Hee-sung and Eun-ha have put together a little party on the roof. Ji-won looks miserable as Hee-sung grills the food, but she tells Hee-sung that her expression is just because of all the work he put into it. He says it’s not work when he enjoys it, but Ji-won retorts that it must be difficult to only show her what she wants to see.

Ji-won takes a call from the man who’s analyzing the voice recording. She tells Hee-sung that he can’t determine the source of the clicking sound, but that under that sound, he could hear another man’s voice. She plays the cleaned-up recording for him, and he hears: … an ashtray?

He realizes that the recording was made at the same bar where he and his father spent some time on the night that Mi-sook was abducted. He recalls the bartender offering his father an ashtray, then hand-chipping a special icecube for his drink (which explains the clicking noise).

Over dishes, Hee-sung gently asks Ji-won what’s going on with her. She says that after fourteen years, she no longer has feelings for him. Hee-sung carefully says that her feelings can’t just change like that, so she asks if he still feels the same way about her. He say she does, and Ji-won assumes the worst — that he’s always felt nothing for her.

Hee-sung says she must be stressed from work, between always being in danger and making no progress on her new case. Ji-won snaps that he doesn’t know her as well as she knows herself, and says that she started liking him for no reason, so now she’s stopped liking him for no reason.

She snarls that she hates him and hates watching him try to please her, but Hee-sung asks, if she hates him so much, then why is she crying? Ji-won tells him that she wants to break up, and Hee-sung asks what he can do to change her mind, but she says this is just what she wants.

Hee-sung follows Ji-won to the bedroom, wanting to talk more. But she says that she keeps seeing Do Min-seok’s victims and feeling guilty that she’s done nothing to help them. Hee-sung begs her not to sympathize with the victims too much, and Ji-won says that she’s always coped with having such horrible cases because she had Hee-sung to comfort her, “But not anymore.”

Hee-sung shows up at Moo-jin’s place early in the morning, and HA, Moo-jin can’t believe Hee-sung is here to talk about his marriage. Hee-sung mopes that this is worst than the night he was stabbed by Soon-kil then hit by a car, awww. Hee-sung arrives, having been called as backup, and Hee-sung wonders what he needs to do to make Ji-won happy again.

Moo-jin tells Hee-sung to be romantic and woo Ji-won back, but Hee-sung isn’t listening. Instead, he decides that the way to win Ji-won back is to catch Do Min-seok’s accomplice. Hae-soo says that Ji-won must be very precious to him, and when Hee-sung agrees that she’s important, Hae-soo counters, “The things you think are important, become less important as time passes. But when something is precious, it hurts more as time goes by.”

Hee-sung announces that he knows where that recording was made, and that he’ll tell them when he returns. He heads out, warning Hae-soo not to spend too much time with Moo-jin, hee. When he gets to his car, he pulls out his phone and sees that Ji-won hasn’t answered any of his many texts today, so he scrolls up to reread their older, flirty texts.

Back with her team, Ji-won decides to use the trap idea. She has a list of people that Mi-sook called during the three days between leaving Kyung-choon and getting kidnapped, most of which were job inquiries. Ji-won believes that one of them baited Mi-sook, so she wants to call them and use herself as bait. Woo-chul warns against entrapment, but Ji-won says it’s legal as long as the person is still committing the crime.

Moo-jin gives Hae-soo a ride home, and she invites him inside her rooftop apartment. It’s so empty that at first, Moo-jin thinks shes in the middle of moving, but she says that she always lives like this. She’s not even aware that her lightbulb has burned out, and she further confesses that sometimes she cries all night, or doesn’t leave the house for days… “I’m not the Hae-soo from before. I’m broken. We can’t go back to old times.”

Hee-sung finds the seedy old bar that he and his father went to that night, and as soon as he sits down, he recognizes the tattoo on the bartender’s arm. He orders a drink on the rocks, and when he gets it with regular ice, he asks about the hand-chiseled ice his father was served. The bartender says they only do that for special (frequent) clients.

Hee-sung plays the recording of the accomplice for him and the bartender freezes for a moment, then says nervously that he doesn’t recognize the voice. He agrees to call Hee-sung if he remembers anything so Hee-sung asks for a pen to write down his number. The bartender offers him a very fancy pen, which Hee-sung recognizes as one that his father made and gave as a gift to someone “as a thank you for always getting me nice raw material.”

Hee-sung had assumed his father was talking about metalworking materials, which Min-seok always got for himself, but Min-seok had said cryptically, “There are some raw materials that are too risky to obtain myself. I wonder what kind of face you’d make if I showed you.” Hee-sung had asked to see, but Min-seok had said he’d show him when his skills were more ripe.

In a flash, Hee-sung vaults over the bar and attacks the bartender, accusing him of lying about not knowing Do Min-seok when he owns one of Min-seok’s art pieces and categorized him as a “special client.” He slams the bartender’s hand to the counter and stabs it with the pen… right between the fingers, whew. The bartender continues to insist he knows nothing, so Hee-sung orders him to tell him who does.

Meanwhile, Ji-won calls each of the people on Mi-sook’s call list, asking about jobs and striking out. Eventually she speaks to a woman named Jung-soon who sounds interested, and she agrees to meet Ji-won at a motel to discuss a job.

Jung-soon is definitely shady, as is Yeom Sang-chul, the man she works for, who warns her against procuring too often now that the media is reporting on Do Min-seok again. As it turns out, Sang-chul is also the man the bartender sells out to Hee-sung. Hee-sung calls Sang-chul and asks boldly if he’s Do Min-seok’s accomplice.

Hee-sung’s mother finds the real Hee-sung on the floor beside his bed, having tried to walk by himself. His speech has improved, and he says a bit desperately that he was on his way to see someone the night of the accident. He says he must see them, and begs her to help him.

The bartender takes Hee-sung to see Sang-chul, at the very same “employment agency” where little In-seo was taken… oh no. Hee-sung tells Sang-chul that he’s Do Min-seok’s son, so Sang-chul asks him Min-seok’s favorite drink order. Hee-sung proves himself by knowing that Min-seok never ordered a drink, he would only say he’d called ahead.

Hee-sung asks about Min-seok’s accomplice, but Sang-chul says that question crosses a line. He notes that Hee-sung is wanted himself, and Hee-sung says that’s why he’s so anxious to find the accomplice. He tells Sang-chul to tell the accomplice that he was fearless to have messed with him, but Sang-chul just laughs that he’s stuck between two crazy punks.

He says he’s just someone who buys and sells for a profit, and when Hee-sung asks what he buys and sells, he says ominously, “Anything. Everything.”

While her team listens secretly, Ji-won meets with Jung-soon and concocts a story about running away from home at fourteen and being alone in the world. Jung-soon promises that this job can earn Ji-won a lot of money and only requires her making a delivery, though she won’t say what she’s delivering.

She demands a commission for getting Ji-won the job, and as soon as she takes the cash, Ji-won informs Jung-soon that she’s under arrest. But when Ji-won goes to the door to let in the guys, Jung-soon tries to escape by climbing over the balcony. She loses her balance and falls several stories.

Back at the station, Ji-won gets yelled at for being careless, but Woo-chul defends her. Ho-joon is at the hospital waiting while Jung-soon is in surgery, and he reports that the doctor says she may not survive. Ji-won steps outside, thinking about how Hee-sung would console her on difficult days like this. She reads his texts from today, seeing how he genuinely seems to miss and worry about her.

Hee-sung makes Sang-chul a monetary offer for information, and Sang-chul calculates whether he can make more money by selling Hee-sung to the accomplice. He decides not to betray his client and his men surround Hee-sung. Sang-chul is abut to force a drug down his throat when Hee-sung blurts out, “I can be your client, too! One that will constantly require your services.”

Sang-chul asks Hee-sung if he even knows what he sells, and Hee-sung replies, “People.” Sang-chul mutters that Min-seok said his son was just like him, but he didn’t realize he meant in this way.

Ji-won recalls the night she’d asked if Hee-sung wanted anything from her, and how he’d said he only wanted her to keep loving and trusting him like she did then. Missing him desperately, she decides to call him. Sang-chul lets Hee-sung talk to her, and when he only says coldly that he’s busy, she figures out that something is wrong.

Recalling his request to trust him, she tells him to answer yes or no to her questions. She asks if he needs help and he says no, so she says that she’ll give him an hour then she’s coming to look for him. She says, “I miss you,” and Hee-sung answers a simple, “Yes.”

COMMENTS

Geez, Flower really knows how to twist me up in knots and make me feel things I never thought I’d feel for characters I don’t even want to like! A maladjusted child of a serial killer who lies much too easily and is prone to violent outbursts, a cop who would rather throw a bomb into her marriage than just talk honestly with her husband, a reporter who’s nosing into an old case that he’s unethically connected to, and the sister who is most certainly hiding more secrets than all of the others put together. They’re all morally questionable people, and while I get that this is a situation none of them would voluntarily have entered, they’re all so busy lying to and hiding the truth from each other that I want to just throw my hands up and say they get what they deserve.

And yet… each of them is so relatable that I can’t do that, and I keep caring what happens to them against my better judgment. Moo-jin, at least, is the most innocent of the four — he’s just trying to help the girl he once loved and clear his old friend’s name. And Ji-won can’t help it that she married a man who wouldn’t know an emotion if it walked up and kissed him on the lips, not even when he’s actively feeling them. I feel the most sorry for Hee-sung, who got himself into this through an act so selfless that he was willing to be branded a murderer to protect his sister’s future, and only wants a normal life with his wife and daughter (if only he’d get some therapy to learn how to recognize his true feelings! And stop, you know, almost stabbing people). And even Hae-soo, who I’m positive knows more about her father’s murders than anyone else but Do Min-seok himself, and who is certainly manipulating everyone with that doe-eyed, oh-so-innocent act, has something earnest about her that I can’t quite put my finger on.

This episode was one of the harder ones to watch, for me, because of the mistrust and broken-heartedness that Ji-won is carrying around. She heard her husband say, in his own words, that he doesn’t love her and never has, and I’m frankly impressed that she’s not more of a mess. Instead she focused that energy into solving the mystery surrounding his past, and she’s making serious headway, but it’s not enough. Meanwhile, Hee-sung is getting some answers but is also getting himself in serious trouble, and I just want to shake them both and scream at them to have a conversation, tell the truth to each other, then work together on this. Thankfully, Ji-won’s decision to trust Hee-sung at the end was a major turning point, because it shows that she hasn’t fully given up on him quite yet, even when he’s not acting at all trustworthy from her point of view.

And Hee-sung… talk about wanting to shake someone! I know, he’s damaged and had a horrible upbringing and he was told his whole life that something was wrong with him. But I think he was misdiagnosed — he’s not lacking in emotion, it’s just that showing his emotions was so dangerous that he pushed them down until he forgot he even had them. I think that experiencing Ji-won’s love changed him a lot, and I do believe that he loves her and Eun-ha, even if he doesn’t know that that’s what he’s feeling. That’s why he asked her not to change or stop loving him, and that’s why he’s been so lost since she said she no longer loves him — he’s heartbroken. If I wasn’t fully convinced of Hee-sung’s feelings before, I was convinced when his first reaction to Ji-won saying she doesn’t love him anymore was so typical… he called his sister for backup and went straight to (the closest thing he has to) his best friend. He just doesn’t know how to deal with the loss of Ji-won’s love, so he assumes it’s because her career hasn’t been going well. He’s convinced himself that making Ji-won happy in her career again will fix everything.

As for the real Hee-sung, I knew he was going to wake up and throw a serious wrench into things, and it looks like his father might already be making some nefarious plans to somehow install Hee-sung into Hyun-soo’s life. Hopefully Hee-sung himself isn’t like his father, and he does seem to be a good person, what little we know of him. As soon as he woke up, he reassured his mother for whatever she’s been feeling guilty about, and he asked about the person he hit with his car that night. I hope he won’t be eager to steal someone else’s life, not even someone who’s been living his life for over a decade. Not to mention, his mother seems to finally be softening towards Eun-ha (how could you not!) and I don’t think she’s going to be onboard with upending the little girl’s life.

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The relationship between Ji-Won and Hee-sung is so heartbreakingly beautiful... They had perfect married life, and made such unbreakable bond for 14 years but under the shadow of some very dark secrets... it breaks my heart because they both love each other so dearly... Lee Joon-gi's acting really impressed me this episode, the way he's so gentle with his wife but so cold, cunning and manipulative with the gang boss and the bar guy

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Do Min-seok must have met with his accomplice twice on the night that Mi-sook was abducted — once to give him his car keys, and again to get the keys back.

Or he could have given him a duplicate key.

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I had to get a duplicate key for a 1999 vehicle about two years after the fictional killings took place. Thanks to an anti theft chip in the key, I had to go through a dealership, which presumably left a record, and had to pay about $250 USD. The car shown as Do Min-seok's is newer than 1999, and I have to wonder if he would want to leave a paper trail the way I did.

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Or DMS can just give the accomplice his car spare key.

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This was a hard one man. Her come around in the end though, Moon Chae Won, this was your episode girl, just A+ acting here. I felt it all. That being said, Hae Soo may not be our apprentice.🤔🤔

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I agree MCW is amazing in this show. She and LJG play off well with each other! I love them🥰

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Thank you for the recap!

Such a gripping episode... so much happened but two things in particular really pulled me:
- When Ji Won stepped out of the police station after the news about the woman being in the hospital and her emotional outburst of desperation and sadness, then calling Heesung
- When Ji Won and Heesung spoke on the phone while he was with the men and just his response of "yes" to her saying "I miss you" - there was so much emotion in his face and in his response. Wow.

I keep saying this, but I think both Lee Junki and Moon Chae Won have acted so so well in this drama. There were several times, especially in this episode, where I just wanted both of them to burst out with what they wanted to say or were feeling, and you can actually see the effort they are putting in to keep concealing things from each other in their facial expressions - and I think that comes from such good acting. Also... that both of them do it in such a different way. Jiwon is so pained inside that you can see how hurt she is, and Heesung is trying so hard as well but in a different way because his inner "pain" is more wanting to keep things the way they are with him and Jiwon. Just a lot of nuances between the both of them and it was powerful to see.

This show also just keeps making me nervous with the scenes... and I have never had a great feeling about Heesung's father, but that feeling is just growing now and I am nervous about what he is going to do.

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😢😭😭💕💕💕 That scene with Hyun Su and Ji Won in the first minute. Plus what he promised her 5 years or so ago when they moved to the new house did me in. He followed through with what he promised. Hae Soo also saw how precious Ji Won is to her brother. So I am glad that Ji Won realized the meaning of the pledge Hyun Su gave her all those years ago.

Plus Dr Baek is seriously demented that he thinks he can just give the wife and daughter to the real Hee Seong. Like really?! I knew he plan to take back the name for his real son but to give him Hyun Su's family too. Unreal! He makes me so upset. 😤

I knew he would think that Hyun Su is expendable so I will not put it past him to anonymously tip the police on Do Hyun Su's wheareabouts.

And Moo Jin. I knew he would be back .. with gifts too. So I will go easy on him for now. 😆

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Thank you for the recap @lollypip!

I agree with most of what you said. Except I think Hae Soo is not the accomplice. There is justing about her, her gentleness to her brother, her sadness and way she has lived made me think that she is not the accomplice. Also if she was the accomplice, i dont think DMS wouldve set up an elaborate day with Hyun Su so he can have an alibi. Also so he can havr an opportunity to pass along the key to the accomplice when she could easily get the key from her father.🤔

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Just something about her**

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She looks too broken, too much to be the accomplice. I don’t think she’s lived a good life.

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True , based on the past and her interaction with others qbt Hyun soo . She seemed like a sis who dearly loved her bro

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That pyscho Dr Baek is the perfect candidate.

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For an actor, it must be must easier to wail and burst emotions. However someone with no feelings? Lee Joon Gi is doing a fantastic job here. It must be challenging to portray someone who can’t empathize and feel emotions however he has conveyed that really well.

Do Hyun So is a high functioning psychopath with antisocial disorder. He has those tendencies yet he has able control those. I don’t think he has killed anyone. Without him knowing, he has actually develop emotions being married for many years. His family has become his comfort and fortress he cherish and protect and any costs.

I can’t recall any scenes that show how his father treated him or maybe has trained him is right now. I feel sorry for him and looks like the second part of the series going to be like a rollercoaster ride for him.

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When Moo-jin said something along the line of "I haven't heard of anyone fixing their marital relationship by finding a serial murderer", I have to admit to laughing a little by the way he said it. Heh!

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Because it really was funny😆

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The actor has a flair for comedy, honestly his facial expressions and reactions to things are hilarious. Like when Ji Won was describing how manipulative Hyun Soo is and he was nodding along, like yeah, exactly right. lol

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OMG this recap came out so fast, thank you LollyPip!! ^^

The use of flashbacks have been awesome and effective, giving us another view of Hee Sung's and Ji Won's story. They showed some of his feelings as he navigated the unfamiliar world of love and being a father. He was so gentle and cautious in trying to find the right words to speak to Eun Ha in Ji Won's belly. This scene nearly choked me up.

Ji Won's outburst at him to her regret about wanting to break up and the fact that she missed him already was understandable. Like girl, you cannot stay away from LEE JOON GI (hahaha kidding). But really, she's been dealing with conflicting emotions and she was bound to blow up. I'm glad that she knew something was up during their phone call and she knew he wouldn't ask her for help so she set him a time limit. I thought she could go find him with her handy tracker anyway.

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So many things to recap and say. Thank you @lollypip for the fast recap!! Alright, lets dive in!

First, I just want to say the relationship between Ji Won and Do Hyun So is beautiful. This week my heart hurt for Do Hyun So ( last week it was Ji Won). When she lashed out at him telling him she didn't love him anymore, we could see how upset and agitated he was about this. I have been saying this from the beginning, Do Hyun So is in love with Ji Won, deeply but he doesnt understand love or know what it is.

Ji Won will come to this realization and believe what she sees. Do Hyun So may not express love in the normal way but he definitely shows his love, at least in my opinion he does. This man literally loves to give to Ji Won, seeing her happy makes him happy or at the very least content. I am grateful that Ji Won is an intelligent female lead👌 , Props to the writers for that because that is not always the case, I loved how Ji Won figured out very quickly that Do Hyun So was in trouble and if he needed help.

I have been saying the Head Detective guy was the accomplice but now I am not so sure. The real Baek Hee Seung is triggering my spidey senses. I think the Dad is a butt hole, cold , jealous and calculating but I don't think he is a killer. I think he is actually alot similar to Do Hyun So (personality wise) DHS really could be his son ( both are kinda cold and emotionalless) but I think Baek Hee Seung is the killer and I think his parents know it or they know something is up. Its weird that they gave away their entire sons life for such a flimsy reason as crashing a car into DO Hyun So. There is definitely more to the story. So my suspect list is down to two - 1. The Head Detective ( with the glasses) or 2. The real Baek Hee Seung. I hate having to wait a whole week ... Oh and rest in peace Chadwick Boseman, I was sad to hear of his passing this evening 😢.. 2020 really sucks doesn't it..

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I also loved the way she immediately figured it out!! Especially since it also seems like that same line of reasoning will convince her to trust him again...

If the real Hee-Sung is a killer, it's only because I find his voice (as hard as it is for him to talk right now) very soft and soothing. I also recall some promo material being discussed of him having a twin? And the real Hee-Sung seems to fall right in line with that.

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Yup good catch .. Didn’t the sister say the accomplice voice was soft and soothing when she spoke to him

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Is Hee sung morally questionable or does he simply have the capacity to be so? He is certainly capable of being so, but he seems to keep himself in check, even when he threatens someone (usually someone who is despicable). All his life he has been witch hunted because he is different. People are not rational in their response to him. They immediately suspect him and accuse him of the most horrendous crimes. Even Moo-jin can quickly turn on him and abuse him for being less than human. Hee-sung would have no expectation of getting a just hearing.

LJK is brilliant and conveying the moral complexity of a character who is capable of being a psychopath, but is not. In the office with the people traffic-ers, he visibly "switched" into his dark side. It made us see Hee-sung's potential to be the same as his father. The potential is there, but he does not follow through. Even so, the show keeps us on edge because we can feel that potential, and it makes us think that at any moment it may get the better of him and he will turn into his father. Without Ji-won in his life, he may have turned out to be a very different person.

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he doesnt have a desire to hurt people though.. I honestly think he just doesnt care one way or the other. I think being with Ji Won has changed him and he knows that its morally wrong and he has no desire to harm but I dont think he would have became a " killer" like his dad.. even his dad said the look in his eyes has to change.. even as a teenager he just had I'm bored as heck vibe about him.. he just doesnt seem like the killer type

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I think you are correct, but he may have that potential. He knew that being with her would keep his father, and everything he means, away. That's my bet.

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I think this is a really great way of putting into words something I've tried (and failed) to express more clumsily. Every episode of this show is a bit of a roller coaster. I always begin thinking he's a good guy but at some point in the episode something that happens which makes me hold my breath and wonder if I was right in my judgment, only to eventually get something from the show that reassures me that he is, in fact, a good guy (or, in any case, not a bad guy). As you point, this is because of the potential in him. He's capable of being like his father but makes a conscious effort not to be like his dad. That, to me, is admirable. (I will say, though, that under the right circumstances most people are probably capable of doing heinous things. The banality of evil is a real thing IMO; people can do immoral things without immoral people. I think the distinction between Hyun-soo and other people is that Hyun-soo doesn't really have a moral sensibility (or social sensibility, for that matter) about him. Whereas most normal people feel at least partially bound by or are certainly aware of moral strictures most of the time, I think Hyun-soo's default involves thinking in purely instrumental terms - doing what promotes his interests and avoiding what doesn't - without much regard for external norms that can't be justified in this kind of transactional calculus.)

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I'll be interested to see how he turns out when he is under more stress - when he gets hemmed in by the traffic-ers and the police without any support from Ji won. We've already seen him under stress in the basement, but we still don't know what he will do to preserve himself. Once again, it was ambiguous: was he going to strangle her or was he leaning on her for support? They are keeping us on the edge...

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I made such a valiant attempt in trying to stay away from this show. I lasted about 2 weeks. Curse you Youtube for recommending me bts episode clips!!! I usually never watch until the very last episode is done but maaan with this drama it's like keeping bees away from honey. Or stopping serial killers from serial killing.

Anyway, that dishwashing "breakup" scene is truly magnificent (in a heart-wrenching way). I must've rewinded it dozens of times to soak up every last bit of MCW and LJG's expressions, delivery, vocal tones, etc. They bring out the best in each other. There's a few things that stick out to me the most in this scene:

1. Jiwon addresses him as "jagi" throughout their conversation. Words of hate and anger accompanied by a gentle, affectionate term. This is the coldest I've seen her and yet she can't help but refer to him as that. Even during that part where she callls out to him in the car when they were about to run over the pedestrians. Isn't odd how it still comes off as sweet and natural?

2. Heesung lines: "I don't understand. I don't understand you right now." There's a certain helplessness and childlike honesty in the way he said that. During this part I was like, "YES DUDE! be more vulnerable and honest with your wife. god knows you both need that right now."

3. Him realizing that he's about to lose her for good. Anything he says or does seem to make the situation worse. Seeing him fumble around/wracking his brain for the right combination of words/expressions but coming up empty. Fear with a sprinkle of desperation? Kinda similar to their other emotionally-charged scene at the hospital.

4. Jiwon's "You used to make me forget. But not anymore." that's a big OOOOOF for me and it looked like a big OOOOOF for Heesung too. As if his heart just dropped to his feet

And that ending...Daaang. Once they eventually team up, they can be the most formidable couple. Can we please have a scene where they're beating up bad guys together and covering each other's backs?

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This is all so subtle. They did a good job.

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Yes, their expressions, delivery, vocal tones, everything was so perfect in that breack up scene...

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That breakup scene did me in. Seriously.
All of those you described and more. MCW and LJG was simply spectacular. I could watch that scene over and over again and get the same feels.
You feel strongly for both sides but you can't do anything but watch Ji Won lash out at her beloved husband.

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I love these observations!

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Waited for Moon Chae Won break out role to show case her maturity as an actress and this riveting drama is finally doing her justice.
Ever popular Lee Jun Ki is delivering it too.

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There was a scene where Jiwon finds out Moojin is a year younger than her but had been speaking banmal to her. It seemed totally throwaway and played for laughs. But because of that scene, I can’t make sense of everyone else’s age and order!

Flashbacks have Jiwoon calling Heesung oppa when they were dating. And if Moojin is one year younger than Jiwon, that makes Moojin younger than Heesung/Hyunsoo, right? But Moojin speaks banmal to both Heesung/Hyunsoo and to the noona Haesoo. It’s true that friends and couples decide to speak casually, but even with banmal, they use hyung and noona or name-shi and not “you”or “your.” Moojin uses “you” and “your” (너, 네) to both Hyunsoo and Haesoo and that confuses me. This would make sense if Moojin and Hyunsoo were the same age (and the school bullying flashbacks make that case) and that Moojin speaks casually to Haesoo because of their romantic past (though I would still expect him to call her noona, or at least Haesoo-shi).

But that early scene with Jiwon and Moojin throws everything into chaos. Have I missed something? Or are things relaxing in Korea and I’m being old-fashioned?...

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Panshel did the age related math in a comment about two weeks ago.
Baek Hee-sung (original) is an 82'er, so with Hee-sung/Hyun-soo using his ID, Ji-won calls him oppa. (The carding scene when they first met- "You look young for someone born in 82.")

Hae-soo is Hyun-soo's noona by (I think) a year, and Ji-won is the same age as Hae-soo.

Moo-jin and Hyun-soo are the same age.

As a side note, Lee Jun-gi was born in 82.

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Oh that's what I missed, the real Heesung's age and ID! Thanks for clearing that up. I was sooo confused. And a little mad about what seemed like lack or ignorance of manners. Turns out I was the ignorant one! :)

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ooooh that makes a lot of sense, thanks!! also thanks @panshel for doing the original math :)

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I doubt formality matter much at this point too HS and JW because they are a married couple, especially for a very long time. So they would used the term honey,wife,baby for each other. But for Mojin and Haesoo, maybe because they dated before so they stop address each other formally?

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Yeah, someone explained this to me a few episodes back, due to my similar confusion.

Basically, of the millennial gen characters in show, the real Baek Hee-sung is the oldest, born in 1982, which is why Ji-won calls Hyun-soo oppa. She only knows his cover birthdate, not his real one.

As stated in episode 3 or 4, just before Jiwon met Hae-soo, both women were born in 1984.

Moo-jin and Hyun-soo were both born in 1985.

Hope that clears it up! Considering how she reacted when Moo-jin talked to her in banmal, It would be really hilarious and adorable, if, when all is said and done (and our couple is still alive and well and happily married, fingers crossed!!!), Jiwon gets to tell her husband, "I've called you oppa all these years, now it's your turn to call me noona!" lol.

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Lol I would love that so much. Especially since I feel like that would actually fit their vibe pretty well ahahahaha

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I think that it was intentional on the writers part that they were throwing hints about the characters age. I think that its going to come and play a big part in the whole plot.Ppl keep saying that Baek Hee Seung is too young to be the accomplice as he was around the same age as Do Hyun Soo. Since he is older, he would have been around 23 or 24 at the funeral when they were teens. Dr. Baek probably wasn't a great father figure to him so he may have found one in Do Min Seok who was probably his mentor. Dr. Baek probably found out after the car accident what he was into and now is just trying to cover it up. Do Hae Soo mentioned that the man at the funeral had a soft, soothing voice(like Baek Hee Seung) and they also have a similar build. I also think that Do MIn Seok didn't commit suicide but was probably killed by Do hae Soo. The woman Hee Seung was going to see was also probably Do Hae Soo. Those are my theories and speculations.

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The real psychopath is Dr Baek. He can so casually offer to exchange back the real and fake Hee Sung, including the whole package of family life. The only way he could possibly do that is to do away with real Ji Won and Eun Ha and install fake ones ! He has done that before with Hee Sung, what's two more, right ?

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Seriously. I think he's gonna try and kill Hyun-Soo at some point. I kind of don't want for him to be the accomplice since he's so obviously nasty, but I don't know. We'll see.

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This episode was the hardest too watch...the Jiwon outburst which I knew it was going to happen sooner or later because of all the things she was going through and holding back. But even so it was still so freaking heartbreaking. Even more so when seeing HS desperation wanting to understand JW feeling was soo sad. Honesty HS had it coming for him, for not being honest with his wife and the fear of losing her will be wake up call for him to finally be honest with JW.
I know I said this onces too many times but LJK and MCW are fucking phenomenal!!! LJK portrayal of HS is amazing seeing the raw emotions and acting of not understand others feeling too the fear of losing his wife.(Wow) MCW had done a topnotch acting as well, her pain felt so real it hurts and the fact that she had too constantly sheding tears for the past episodes is amazing. Can't imagine how she managed to do that but It only prove what an amazing actress she is. Both their chemistry is undeniable it felt so real.

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The show is a total rollercoaster, once you think you're following one secure path, then a twist and sudden drop and I have my heart in my mouth... I can tell you I'm exhausted after I finish one episode. OMG.

I still don't think HaeSoo has anything to do with the crimes and I now want to know what was on that recording MooJin kept. What did he saw? I'm intrigued. And now I begin to think Dr. Baek may have something to do with the crimes (which would be too disappointing to be honest because that would be a hell of a coincidence), because that burner phone kept me thinking... I don't trust either the real Baek Hee Sung, don't ask me why.

As for JiWon and HyunSoo, I also agree they need to talk. The problem is the minute they talk it would make HyunSoo go to jail until everything is cleared and I don't think that's where the show wants us to go.

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Exactly. She can't talk to him about it because she then has to act on it. He knows that and wants above all to preserve his family life. He is also bound by loyalty to his sister. He can't clear himself without exposing her. Nice tension.

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Very emotional and good episode!

Okay, here are my thoughts:

1. I doubt more and more that the village foreman died because he just attacked Do Hae-Soo without a reason. He wanted to investigate the father's case, and maybe he found something out what he should not know. Then Hae-Soo came to confront him about the exorcism and he revealed to her what he knew, it came to a fight and he died... I still don't believe that Hae-Soo is the series killer, but there's for sure more to her character - and I don't think in a positive way.

2. Whats up with Do Min-Seok? Sometimes I'm sure he was a ruthless killer, and then I'm not certain if he really did it. Like with Episode 09 now, the flashbacks with him in the bar or him asking Hyun-Sun about the right pen ... He just doesn't give me the 'murder vibes'. But I'm sure that he didn't commit suicide. And what did he do with those women, if he never killed someone? I'm curious to see how this mystery will be resolved.

3. Who wanted real Hee-Sung to see? It's definitively a woman. When he talked on the phone, seconds before he hit Hyun-Sun with the car, he talked about a "problem he had to face by himself" and a "she"...  I bet that the mysterious "she" is someone we already have met.

4. Hyun-Sun loves Ji-Won. There's no doubt. He just has to realize it, and I think it's connected with his believe that's he's "abnormal", or that he's "not able to feel". I actually like this part of the story. I'm curious to see in what way he learns that he feels.

5. It's more and more likely that the man with the hat (from the funeral) and the accomplice are not the one and the same.
I doubt that Do Min-Seok was planning to abduct Jung Mi-Sook. She was the o it one of his victims who had family, someone who would search for her.
So it makes me think that Min-Seok didn't really know the man with the hat, because he would have been suspicious to see him at the time he was in the bar with his son.

Anyway, the way Hyun-Sun surprised pregnant Ji-Won in the flashback melted my heart. And when he talked to the baby belly... it was just so sweet.❤
He didn't know what to say so he just talked about the room he prepared for his unborn daughter, and hopes she will like it. He didn't act or lied in this scene, he was the real Hyun-Sun who wanted to do his best in the way he was able to.

It's clear that he talkes with actions, not with words. He prepared a happy family dinner because the latest episodes made him realize how much he adores and wants his family, and the dinner was his way of telling this to his wife and his daughter. Mi-Joon also told him to declare his love for his wife to win her back, but our boy thinks that finding the series killer will resolve the problem.

There's the possibility that Hyun-Sun was actually born "normal" but certain people made him believe he was abnormal. Maybe one of his family members manipulated him, and I'm not sure it was...

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Based on the hints the show has been dropping, I'm pretty sure they're going to go with childhood trauma caused Hyun-soo to suppress his emotions. There are definite hints of abuse going on in the household, and neither Hyun-soo or Hae-soo seemed to doubt for a moment that their father was a serial murderer. Because of the scene with the bunny, we know his father encouraged him towards animal cruelty, and how many times have we heard that his father said he was "like him?" Any of that could lead to a misdiagnosis of Antisocial Personality Disorder.

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I really loved the moment Ji-Won went from wife to cop. This show is great at not downplaying the her competence as a cop. In that last moment, she was hee-sung's wife who was a cop that knew her husband was hyun-su. She figured that he was in trouble because his Hee-Sung persona was consistent for 14 years and the fact that the change meant it was something worse than she finding out his real identity.

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Yes! I agree, she's done a really good job of putting all the pieces she has together. It's refreshing to see a competent female cop who also has a fleshed out emotional system (I've seen a few, but they were also supposed to be the 'cold, emotionless type').

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Thanks for the recap/review Lollypip!

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Last recap I was still on the fence about Hae Soo because I thought she seemed too well-adjusted for what she had gone through. I'm off the fence now. IMO she's just a sad, lonely woman who is sorry that she let her brother take the blame for her crime. I just don't see her as manipulative at all.

Ji Won has plenty of reasons to be hurt and angry, but I find myself thinking if I had a husband who cooked, planned parties and special events, handled child care and apparently never said he couldn't talk because he was busy, I wouldn't care if he could feel love. Seriously though, the love Hyun Soo doesn't believe he's capable of showed in all of that and Ji Won is starting to realize it.

Despite his words, I think Dr. Baek is more likely to try to get rid of all traces of Hyun Soo's life than installing Hee Sung in it.

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Yeah, I totally agree re: Ji-Won and her husband. I mean, I think I'd like someone who could feel they love me, but I think it's rather obvious that he really, really does base his entire life around living for her. Even now, his motivation to catch the accomplice is tied up in doing something for her.

and Re: Dr. Baek, I wouldn't put him above killing Hyun-Soo in attempts to create a gap for his son again...

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Dr. Baek is up to nothing good, that’s for sure. He was cold enough to create a ICU inside his wardrobe to take care of a son who was fatally injured by his wife violent attack, and then choose a fugitive to impersonate his son in order not to lose his position. And then there’s the burner phone. And the fact that he’s slightly psycho....

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THIS EPISODE. It killed me. Oh my gosh that breakup scene... and oh my gosh, how pleased I was that he reacted the way he did!! I mean, I think he's still going to need another knock on the head to realize how much he actually loves her, but I'm glad his sister is back in the picture. At least she's able to TELL him the things he doesn't get instinctively.

Those texts were the cutest part of this episode. SO fun.

I'm also excited to see how things shake down with the human trafficking ring, that was a clever twist I wouldn't have seen coming at the beginning--a serial killer getting their victims on order, from an organization? Interesting... it would take... a lot of money... to keep that going.

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Oh man, the texts killed me. He was trying so hard: "Do you want to start working out together?" lol. Then the last text ... Oof. It was so raw and honest.

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I'm not the only one to think that Hyun Soo's wish for Ji Won not to change is same the promise Hae Soo (Scarlet heart) made to Wang So when she covered his scar, right ?

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lol the DB recappers are the only people I've seen so convinced Hae Soo is more involved with the killings.

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IKR I watch the episodes and wonder why I don't like Haesoo as much as I should've then realise it's the insistence of the recappers here that she is evil so now I don't trust her

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I must confess I am too much of a coward to watch this wonderful drama although I do read the synopsis. I need to wait til the drama has ended and decide if I can handle the ending. Yes.. THIS great fan of Mr. Lee Joon Ki needs therapy. Haha

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I had this suspicion since ep 6. The real heesung and his creepy dad has something to do with the killings

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This is a solid 10 rating for me. The chemistry between Ji won and Hyun soo is off the charts. I cried when she gave him the breakup speech and cried some more when she read his text messages and called him to tell him she missed him. I think that if they do not make it through this very trying period, she will find it hardest to adjust. She has it bad ❤. I just hope that the very rough around the edges Detective does not jump the gun because of his dislike for Hyun soo but allows things to play out some but this being a K drama I am sure my wishes will fall on deaf ears. My new theory is that Hae soo and the real Hee song are linked somehow....perhaps she was the girl he was set to meet the night of the accident. I am on pins and needles with this drama. It is soooo good.

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At the beginning I saw many disappointed comments here about how Hyunsoo was not a real murderer and only a misunderstood guy, and although I also thought Hyunsoo would be a bad guy before I started watching now that I came to this point I wouldn't have things any other way, if only because Eunha and her father's relationship is so pure and heartwarming I'd hate if they don't get their happy ending.
At the beginning I'd still find Hyunsoo scary, now I'm just scared for him from all sides- his fake family, the bar gang, the police, even his sister and Moojin duo
I'm not so willing to suspect Hae-soo though, although it's true she still knows a lot more and it's weird she suddenly cares when she let her brother shoulder the blame for her for so many years.
I think I softened towards her a lot when she tried to make Hyun-soo understand he loved Jiwon.
Actually they seem to have such a close sibling relationship I don't want her to have ulterior motives when it's clear Hyunsoo doesn't have any.

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Painful painful scene in the kitchen. You don't have to be married to a serial killer to get into that kind of situation. When one lover makes a mistake and the other loses trust, this is what you get. I am surprised it took days for Ji Won to break and finally explode. I want to say she's cruel for punishing Hee Sung that way but still, I know I would be doing the same thing. lol. To say those hurtful words and at the same time wanting to take it back and just wish that this is all just a nightmare that will go away when you wake up.

You are right, I think Hyun Soo was misdiagnosed. It's not that he can't feel anything but he was conditioned for so long not to feel anything because any emotion shown is dangerous.

Can someone please tell me why the real Hee Sung is in coma? Did I missed it somewhere? Wasn't Hyun Soo the one who was at the receiving end of the car accident? How come Hee Sung was the one in coma? Was it induced by the father? The car accident wasn't hit and run right? Hee Sung took Hyun Soo to their home after?

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That text message though, it's too painful to read.

"I feel so frustrated. I want to talk to you. I can't wait for time to pass by. I want time to pass by... so we can have the same memories. Eventually, I want to think and feel just like you..."

To wake up one day and the person person you love, no longer loves you. Must have been too shocking even for a person who claims to feel nothing ㅠㅠ

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I might be the only one watching this drama who doesn't really care for the romance... in fact, it annoys me, it's just how I am though, when I watch these kind of thriller dramas/movies, I always find the romance annoying, taking away from the suspense, mystery and all which is what I'm actually watching it for... unless it's one of those dramas where there's a dramatic murder of the wife/husband/child then that person in revenge tracks down the murderer... I promise I'm not some psychopath lmao, I just hate genres crossing over ugh. I also have a hard time liking hypocrites like Ji-Won who don't disclose info just coz it involves her husband (which I know is just human nature) but still, annoying nonetheless coz they go around having no problem tearing other families apart in their pursuit of "justice", then get all secretive and shady when it's their families. I know most people in the world are like that, doesn't mean it's right and it really annoys me seeing it even though they're just dramas :/ lmao

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And I have to admit, I was also one of the ones disappointed that Hyun So didn't turn out to be an actual murderer lmao!! I was kinda lovin this new twist and seeing Lee Joon Gi as one of the bad dudes lmao, missed opportunity in my opinon!

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Why do I have the feeling that it's gonna end really badly for heesung, despite not doing anything?

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How does every episode of this show beat my heart with a mallet and play my emotions like a violin?? Hee-sung's confused heartbreak and Ji-Won's misguided heartbreak are both so beautifully acted and I want nothing more than to insist they talk it out--
Except that even then there's no easy fix in sight. Even when JW understands that her husband does love her and their daughter, he's certainly not just the image of perfection that he's striven to show her all this time, and for the two of them to be truly happy together they need to learn how to consistently honest with one another. As much as I hate how HS has no idea why his wife suddenly claims to stop loving him, I also see from her perspective how she thinks it's better for the both of them to end it without the blowout of having to confront his identity and what from her end looks like over a decade of manipulation. But I sooo hope that before we wrap up that we'll get to see her learn who he really is, accept him for that, and show him that he does in fact love and receive love not just as BHS but as Do Hyun Soo

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Another episode that feels like a penultimate one. But we still have 7 EPS (that’s more than 7 hours) more to go! So, fasten your seatbelts and enjoy the rest of the ride!

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