Oh My Baby: Episode 3
by dramallama
Having decided to pursue pregnancy without a partner, our heroine explores her limited options to bear a child in the next six months. She experiences a few hiccups in her investigation, and she finds herself leaning on her support system for comfort, support, and to endure her frustrated outbursts. In her low moments, she also finds comfort and assurance from someone who always seems to catch her at the wrong place at the wrong time.
EPISODE 3: “39 years old but like a child”
As Ha-ri waits for her mother, she watches older women adore their dogs. Ha-ri finds herself being drawn in by the cute pups, but she quickly shakes herself out of the adoration and Yi-sang’s curse. Ha-ri takes her mother shopping, and when they come to a crosswalk, Mom uses Ha-ri as a shield from the large splash from an oncoming car. Ha.
Mom wonders if Ha-ri treated her to a shopping spree as an apologetic gesture and wishes that Ha-ri would cause an accident (read: get pregnant). Ha-ri lights up at Mom’s wishes and makes Mom promise not to oppose her big decision.
Ha-ri hosts best friend Eun-young and childhood friend Jae-young for dinner and drinks, but these two are mortal enemies. After spitting out Ha-ri’s inedible baked cookies, they fight over what to order. Eun-young has been craving jokbal, but Jae-young wants chicken. They go back and forth with Ha-ri validating their struggles — Eun-young with her twin boys and Jae-young with his tough divorce — and Ha-ri decides to make her big announcement before they decide on food.
They all fill up their glasses, each with a different alcohol of choice, and Ha-ri announces that in her second phase of life, she’s decided not to get married. Her friends stare at her blankly, not surprised or convinced by her announcement. Eun-young says that life never goes as planned, and Jae-young says that Ha-ri never had a knack for dating.
Jae-young recalls an encounter at a café, where a handsome work colleague (cameo by Lee Dong-gun) approached Ha-ri and asked her out to watch a musical with him. Ha-ri completely missed all the signs of this man asking her out and talked solely about work. Jae-young watched this missed opportunity unfold in front of him and cites this as the reason why he never sets Ha-ri up with anyone.
Ha-ri acknowledges that she sucks at dating and claims that humans have many inabilities. She tries to make her next big announcement, but her friends keep interrupting her. They end up going back to the jokbal vs. chicken argument, so Ha-ri gives up on sharing her big news.
Ha-ri researches her condition, endometriosis, and preimplantation procedures after consulting her OBGYN. Her doctor told her that unmarried women can only receive implantation with the consent of their partner, so if Ha-ri wants to get pregnant in the next six months, she’ll need to get married or just naturally get pregnant. The doctor further explains that in this country, there’s no way to receive an implantation as an unmarried woman and that there are barely enough sperm donors for subfertile couples. As a subfertile single woman, Ha-ri is on her own.
Yi-sang receives a call from his brother reminding him to visit home to commemorate their father’s passing, and Yi-sang somberly agrees to visit his family. We see that he’s waiting in front of Ha-ri’s workplace and calls out to her as she passes. Ha-ri reluctantly addresses him and claims that she’s not embarrassed to see him anymore. He stares at her, waiting for her to say something, and it takes Ha-ri a few tries to read his mind.
She thanks him for stepping in for the photoshoot, offers to buy a meal for giving her a ride, and then bingo — she cancels their agreement to avoid each other. They give each other a high-five, and then Yi-sang swiftly turns around and walks away. What a tease, and he knows it.
Ha-ri runs into the editing meeting late, earning her a glare from Chief Editor Shim. As they go through the proposed items, Hyo-joo also earns herself a scolding for suggesting an unrealistic interview with Won Bin and Lee Na-young about their childcare approach. Ha, wouldn’t we all love for this interview (and cameo). For their column, chief reporter Yeon-ho suggests that they feature Jae-young, and Ha-ri looks surprised. She shares that Jae-young knows nothing about childcare, and Editor Shim likes that he’s an unconventional character.
At the end of the meeting, Ha-ri notices a post on a subfertility bulletin she’s been following. It’s a sperm donor offering to help subfertile women, and Ha-ri looks hopeful.
We see Jae-young struggling with childcare, from offering Do-ah a french fry to running all over the mall to find a diaper changing station. He ends up stopping by a pile of cardboard on his way home to change Do-ah’s diaper, and passing ajummas lament that he’s raising a child on the streets. Jae-young claims that he isn’t homeless, but the ajummas don’t believe him. When Jae-young looks at himself in the mirror at home, he realizes his shabby look validates the misunderstanding.
Yi-sang meets with his therapist for the first time after his long hiatus. He reports that he’s back to work, and the therapists suggests that he focus on social interactions because personal relationships will foster self-confidence. Yi-sang wonders if those interactions can also foster self-apology.
Walking out of the office, Ha-ri notices Hyo-joo limping from breaking in her new heels and comments that she also used to insist on wearing heels in her 20s. She advises Hyo-joo to stick with flats to save her knees and then belatedly realizes that she just sounded like an old person.
Ee-tteum arrives and waves at Ha-ri, calling her “Aunt,” so Ha-ri quickly avoids him and goes downstairs to Jambi Studio (directly under Daechae Media — how convenient!). She tries to enter the studio behind Yi-sang, who’s on the phone and doesn’t notice her. As he enters, he accidently opens the door on Ha-ri’s face, and she quickly brushes it off as she enters the studio.
Yi-sang is uncharacteristically friendly and offers to help Ha-ri carry her supply boxes, and Ha-ri grows suspicious of his gestures. She asks how she should interpret this kindness, and Yi-sang says that it’s easier to like than hate a person. Ha-ri remains suspicious, and Yi-sang finally admits that she has a bruise from her forehead from him opening the door on her.
Ee-tteum notices Hyo-joo’s heel injuries and runs off to fetch bandages. He kneels to put them on her, and Hyo-joo pretends to be uncomfortable with his advances. He’s clearly just trying to be nice without any ulterior motives, but a misunderstanding seems to be brewing in Hyo-joo’s mind. She tells him that they should strictly remain work colleagues, and Ee-tteum agrees.
Back at the office, Ee-tteum reports his successful deal on children’s toothpaste to the marketing team Manager Kim, and suddenly, we hear ridiculous dramatic music as Manager Kim notes that he’s missed a deal on toothbrushes. Manager Kim educates Ee-tteum on managing your networks, and on that topic, Ee-tteum reports that he bought bandages for Hyo-joo’s heels. Manager Kim praises him for managing their colleague/enemy editing team network.
Jae-young finally washes up and changes out of his dirty tracksuit (into another tracksuit lol) because Do-ah pooped on him. He finds Ha-ri’s pregnancy outfit in the hamper and stuffs his dirty laundry inside it. As Jae-young helps Mom fold her laundry, he vocalizes his concerns about finding suitable daycare for Do-ah when he returns to work. Mom senses the request coming and starts to complain about her aching back and wrist pains.
In all seriousness, Mom offers to help care for Do-ah occasionally, but she advises Jae-young to cherish the time he has with Do-ah at this age. Mom shares that caring for Ha-ri while working was tough, but she continues to treasure those fleeting memories of Ha-ri as a baby.
Ha-ri receives a response from the sperm donor (username “I’m the Best”) and arranges to meet with the donor to discuss details. Though initially hesitant, Ha-ri walks into the café with determination, since she has little to no options. She cautiously finds the sperm donor, and he eagerly shares his profile: 180 cm tall, IQ of 148, served in special forces, and student of Korea University. He announces himself the perfect donor.
A journalist through and through, Ha-ri wants more information before any agreement. When the donor learns that she’s a journalist, he looks wary, but Ha-ri assures him that she won’t be reporting on him. She asks how the donation will occur and how much this would cost. Sperm Donor says that he approaches his work with a sense of duty toward people who want children. He likens his donation to organ donation, claiming that saving lives and creating life is the same. Then, he reveals his price of 10,000,000 Won (around 8,000 USD).
He shares that it’s an affordable cost, since he’ll continue to donate until successful pregnancy. Ha-ri notes his fluency in donation, and Sperm Donor confirms that many are drawn to his perfect profile. At that, Ha-ri wonders how many unknown siblings there are, and Sperm Donor suggests that she dismiss such sobering thoughts if she wants to receive a donation. Then, Sperm Donor shares his priority on a healthy baby, so the preferred method of donation is natural insemination matched with ovulation cycles. Every night.
At that last comment, Ha-ri comes to her senses and realizes that Sperm Donor is a pervert. He reaches for her hand and offers to treat her well every night, and Ha-ri slaps his hand away. She curses at him and threatens to call the police. Before she can report him, the police arrive at the café to arrest Sperm Donor for illegal sale of his sperm and falsifying his Korea University student status. Ha-ri confirms Sperm Donor’s illegal activities, but she’s also been caught in the act. She can’t talk herself out of this and ends up at the police station.
Ha-ri testifies that she was engaging with Sperm Donor as a journalist, but the police officer doesn’t believe her excuses. He advices her to use legal methods and follow the law, but Ha-ri argues that laws don’t protect her personal happiness. The officer warns her not to complicate the interrogation, and Jae-young arrives just in time with Do-ah in tow to save her from questioning.
Jae-young is dressed in a suit (wow!) and extends his business card to the officer. Ironically, he’s a pediatrician. The police officer confirms Jae-young’s identity, and Jae-young claims that he can confirm Ha-ri’s identity. He argues that Ha-ri is curious and proactive, but not someone to commit a crime. As someone who’s known Ha-ri, he vouches for her claims that she was investigating this as a journalist, and they’re released from the interrogation.
Jae-young knows that Ha-ri was lying and demands to know why she met up with the sperm seller. Ha-ri comes clean and admits that she wants a baby without marriage, so she intended to buy the sperm. Jae-young calls Ha-ri crazy, and she doesn’t expect him to understand her. Ha-ri knows that there are ethical concerns around buying sperm, but she finds it unfair that marriage is the only acceptable ethical way to have children. For unmarried people, there’s no way to bear children.
Ha-ri acknowledges that she was in wrong to research illegal methods, but Jae-young thinks that she’s also wrong to want to raise a child alone. He knows why Ha-ri doesn’t want to get married and that she adores children, but he wants her to live a normal life by getting married and having children. Ha-ri argues that this is her attempt at a normal life.
She says, “I’m 39. I wish that the love of my life would appear like fate, but in reality, I’m just an ajumma. I don’t know how to live a normal life, and I don’t want to stop myself from doing what I can because of what others say. 39 is too young to let life happen to you.” Before they leave the police station, Ha-ri takes off her coat to put over Do-ah and scolds Jae-young for not bringing a warm cover for Do-ah.
At Jambi studio, Yi-sang struggles to appease the children models, and the kids end up in an ice cream fight over whose cone has more ice cream. When the mothers try to break up the fight, a baby starts to cry, and Yi-sang clumsily tries to comfort the baby. He looks desperate for help and lightens up when Ha-ri arrives. She readily takes the baby from Yi-sang and expertly soothes the baby. Yi-sang smiles as he watches her in relief and in awe of her rescue.
Yi-sang continues to observe Ha-ri as she works hard and effectively to draw the ice cream children models’ attention toward the camera. He glances at her slightly as she pours her efforts toward the children, and he smiles. Oh, what are these feelings?
Yi-sang and Ha-ri meet for dinner at the neighborhood chef’s choice restaurant, and Ha-ri stares at him while he pours beer, making him read her mind this time. After a few guesses about dinner on him, he correctly answers by thanking her for helping with his photoshoot today. Ha-ri asks why Yi-sang doesn’t like children, and he says that he has no particular reason.
Ha-ri suggests that he practice getting along with children by helping out with their magazine’s shoots. Yi-sang knows that she’s trying to recruit him, and Ha-ri also knows that he won’t respond to her requests. Ha-ri then asks a personal question, and Yi-sang correctly predicts the question on his motivations for a bachelor life and if it’s because he doesn’t want children. He responds that he never wants children, won’t fall in love, and has never wanted to be a dad.
The next day, Ha-ri notices her empty wardrobe and goes through her laundry, in which she finds Jae-young’s dirty laundry. Furious, Ha-ri marches downstairs and kicks Jae-young before plastering his head to the wall. She yells at him for adding his dirty laundry and stealing things from her room. Before she can punish him further, Jae-young reminds her of his cooperation with her secret brush with crime. At that reminder, Ha-ri suddenly becomes agreeable to Jae-young’s laundry and requests.
When Ha-ri arrives at work, Ee-tteum once again addresses her as “Aunt” and continues to use that title as he talks to her in the elevator. Once the elevator empties out, Ha-ri pushes Ee-tteum into the corner and clarifies that there is no “Aunt” at work, only supervisors above supervisors. She makes herself abundantly clear, and Ee-tteum looks shaken by the sudden lesson.
At the company dinner, Ee-tteum brings the group’s attention to the woman on the news wearing the same outfit as Ha-ri. It’s the clip of Ha-ri denying involvement in the crime and citing journalistic reasons for her engagement. The news reports that after further investigation, the magazine denied any related investigation on the topic.
All eyes turn to Ha-ri, and she actively denies that the person on the news is her. Then, Ee-tteum points out that she has the same bruise on her forehead. Omg, this kid is useless! Ha-ri covers up her face and turns off the TV as she runs away.
When Ha-ri comes home, she tries to quickly run up to her unit, but Mom catches her. Mom confronts her about the sperm transaction, and Jae-young tries to defend Ha-ri by claiming that it was a secret work investigation. Mom reads Ha-ri’s expression and knows that it’s a lie. Ha-ri admits to Mom that she wants to have a baby without getting married, and Mom looks even more devastated.
As a single mother herself, Mom knows the difficulty of raising a child alone and how people treated her as a single mother. She doesn’t want that for Ha-ri, but that leaves Ha-ri with no other choice but to live alone. Without a partner and eventually without Mom, she’ll be alone and will have to live for herself. Just like how Mom lives for Ha-ri, she wants to live for someone.
Mom can’t believe that Ha-ri wants to live as a single mother after watching her struggle. She still wants Ha-ri to marry. Ha-ri argues that Mom raised her well on her own and that she learned that marriage was difficult by watching her parents fight all the time. She asks why Mom wants her to achieve something that she’s known to be difficult and painful. Mom says that it’s not her fault that Ha-ri can’t marry and that she’s on the wrong path.
Ha-ri yells that she’s foregoing marriage because she doesn’t want to live like Mom. Ouch. Jae-young tries to intervene and table the discussion for later, but Mom is already hurt. She tells Ha-ri to leave and live a life unlike her mother, and Ha-ri storms out.
In the heat of the moment, Ha-ri’s walked out in slippers and walks aimlessly in the neighborhood. She looks at the ground as she crosses the street and nearly walks into a truck, but someone gruffly saves her by pushing her forehead back. Ha-ri looks up and finds Yi-sang, yet again witnessing another low point. She tries to run away but trips on her slippers, and Yi-sang comes to help her up. Then, Ha-ri bursts into tears.
Yi-sang looks uncomfortable but tries to comfort Ha-ri by gently patting her back. Puzzled by the gesture, Ha-ri looks up from her sobs and asks what he’s doing. Yi-sang explains that Ha-ri taught her to pat a crying baby, and Ha-ri asks if she’s a child. “You totally seem like a child,” he responds.
Ha-ri finally calms down, and Yi-sang keeps a safe distance from Ha-ri on the bench as he offers a water bottle. She requests that he not ask for details, and Yi-sang confirms that he planned on not asking since he doesn’t want her to die of embarrassment. Ha-ri chides herself for being so senseless at 39 years old, and Yi-sang says that it’s fine as long as you didn’t run out of the house at 39 years old after being scolded by your mom. Which is exactly what happened.
Yi-sang says that at 41 years old, he still doesn’t know what being an adult means. He shares, “My body ages, but my heart doesn’t. I want nice things, I get mad if I hear something I don’t like, and I feel indignant when I suffer losses. My feelings haven’t subsided, and I don’t know what I’m working towards.”
Yi-sang says that there’s nothing great about growing older, but the one thing he’s gained is an eye for people. He says that even if the strange lady on TV was Ha-ri, he knows that she’s a good person. Before she can thank him, Jae-young interrupts and approaches them with Ha-ri’s shoes in hand. He greets Yi-sang and then proceeds to scold Ha-ri for storming out of the house after fighting with Mom.
Jae-young makes Ha-ri change shoes and stops himself from helping her put on her shoes. Huh, what just happened there? Then, he tells Yi-sang that they live together, and they head back home. Yi-sang doesn’t look the least bit bothered by this and only looks back briefly to see the two bickering before continuing on his run.
When they get home, Jae-young sincerely expresses his support for whatever Ha-ri wants to do, no matter what others say. Jae-young then shares that he left his job at the hospital and gave up his goals for professorship, since that would be impossible while caring for Do-ah. He plans to open up his own clinic with the money from selling his house, which explains why he’s living with Ha-ri now.
Jae-young admits that he was living irresponsibly after his divorce, and he came to rely on Do-ah. He admits that he can’t fully understand Ha-ri, but he empathizes with Ha-ri’s desire to be a mother, since he knows the sentiment as a father. She’s just making it work with how her life is turning out.
Ha-ri looks comforted by Jae-young’s empathy and offers to feature him in her magazine as a clinic opening present. Jae-young only agrees to this if Do-ah also gets featured, but Ha-ri breaks it to him that Do-ah is only cute to them and blames his genes.
At work, Editor Shim stares at Ha-ri and tries to force her into the meeting room for an explanation. But Ha-ri is saved when Manager Kim runs in with an urgent request for a pediatrician recommendation for their upcoming ad. Ha-ri offers to recruit the pediatrician and runs away from Editor Shim.
Overseeing Jae-young’s photoshoot, Yeon-ho asks Ha-ri if that sperm-buying woman was her, and Ha-ri denies this. Yeon-ho suggests the easier route of just seducing a man, but Ha-ri says that emotions can make it more complicated. She wants to go the route of consent and impartial acceptability.
Yeon-ho suggests asking a good friend or colleague, and Ha-ri says no one comes to mind. Then, she looks to the test shoot, featuring the three recent men in her life: Yi-sang, Jae-young, and Ee-tteum. It suddenly hits her that she has options.
COMMENTS
Though the show is unfolding a bit differently from my expectations, I’m still really enjoying it. I expected more conflict and focus on who would be the chosen baby daddy and maybe that’s still to come, but I actually don’t really care about that as much. This story is about Ha-ri, and I love that this show reminds us of that in every episode. Our focus remains on Ha-ri taking life by the reigns, deciding how to manage her circumstances, and not letting life pass her by. She’s decided that 39 is too young to be complacent about her life path, and even with the obvious hardships ahead, she’s going for what she wants.
Ha-ri’s monologue to Jae-young at the police station perfectly captured her dilemma, and it was the honesty in her explanation that made her approach both sorrowful and beautiful. She can’t make sense of the legal restrictions barring her from pursuing her own happiness, so she’s left with very little options, including illegal ones. I was unfamiliar with such restrictions in Korea — that you need to be a legal couple to be a sperm recipient — and the rationale puzzles me. There are many other factors other than marriage that determine good parenting, and both traditional and untraditional coupling and parenting come with challenges that are hard to rank. I think Ha-ri’s desire and readiness to be a mother challenges these ethics embedded into law, and I appreciate her attempts to navigate the system and life she’s confronted with.
The confrontation with Mom was tougher to watch, and I can see why Mom wants Ha-ri to get married. Having experienced single motherhood, she ranks that as a very difficult challenge. She values good companionship and partnership, and she wants Ha-ri to experience this when raising a child. It was a low blow for Ha-ri to tell Mom that she doesn’t want to live like her, and I want to take a moment to appreciate all mothers everywhere for bearing with petty and hurtful outbursts from their children and forgiving them. Bless you all.
I appreciated seeing all the dimensions of Ha-ri and Jae-young’s friendship, which resembled more of a sibling dynamic, from aggressive physical fights and constant bickering to unconditional support. I could see how comfortable these two are with each other, but their deep friendship didn’t convince me that they would be compatible romantically. Other than that brief moment of jealousy and protectiveness in front of Yi-sang, I’m not getting any signs of any romantic potential. As a father, doctor, and friend, I think Jae-young would be a suitable candidate to help Ha-ri achieve her dreams, but their relationship is definitely more familial ( and maybe that familial relationship would make him the best candidate?). I know Mom ships these two as a romantic couple, but I’m shipping these two as best friends.
The ship I’m totally on right now is the Yi-sang and Ha-ri boat. He has the most chemistry with Ha-ri, and they are definitely flirting. Tell me that their telepathy staring game isn’t flirty. I think they’re both so removed from the idea of marriage and dating (especially each other) that they don’t even notice that they’re slowly building a rapport with each other. And Yi-sang is definitely falling for Ha-ri first, just like Ha-ri drunkenly promised he would. I half expected some of those brief moments of Yi-sang admiring Ha-ri in the studio to be interrupted by another record-scratch mortifying moment, but he just continued to admire her throughout the shoot. The way he was stealing glances at Ha-ri is hinting to me that his cheeky interactions with Ha-ri aren’t just for fun. He’s looking forward to his relationship with Ha-ri, and so am I.
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1 dramafan100
May 23, 2020 at 11:38 PM
I am loving this drama quite a bit. I too am puzzled why Korean system does not have a legal way of pursuing becoming a mother. Considering Korean government actually wants their people to have kids, I would think they would want to do something about it.
I think by now, the whole world knows having a mom & a dad is just an ideal thing but having at least one functioning parent is the most important thing. Kids can grow up quite well with one functioning parent and some support from society.
Anyways, society implications aside, I love everything about this show.
I also found dad running around to find a diaper changing place quite poignant. In this day and age, it is probably quite sexist to assume only moms parent. Dads parent too and they need to have their place to change diapers in public places.
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MikeyD signed up
May 24, 2020 at 7:57 AM
Apparently, Korean family culture is all about the 'family registry' going back generation after generation. Inserting an unmarried mother and unknown father would blemish the sacred family tree. I recall in another Jang Nara series, 'Another Happy Ending', she was ready to give up her true love because her ex husband was marrying her boyfriend's sister and she couldn't bring herself to mess up his 'family registry'.
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Screentime
May 24, 2020 at 5:21 PM
Hitting that point where things that look similar are fundamentally different - we all get a cultural blindness and too often interpret things unquestioning through our own lens. So dangerous.
Just as the past is a foreign country...so is a foreign country.
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Aevah
May 25, 2020 at 3:52 AM
Korea is a very traditional place and single parents still face so much difficulty.
But from what I've learned, the absolute worst is that they can't register their child without the consent of the other parent. I don't know if it's been changed, or maybe it's wrong info, but it's really sad just to think about. The child will be denied citizenship just because they happen to have one parent.
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Eazal
May 28, 2020 at 12:41 PM
Regarding your last point: unless there is a specific room for changing diapers, usually the baby changer tends to be in women's bathroom.
When my nephew was a baby (he's 9 now) I usually had a coffee with his dad, and we would go to places in which the changer as independent or also in the men's bathroom. Not all of them had it. If you are a dad and want to change your baby that problem is real most of times.
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2 Zestileigh
May 23, 2020 at 11:55 PM
Oh Yi-sang is SO cheeky. I love his smiling eyes.
Jang Nara is doing something amazing with Ha-ri. Every time a super cringey moment happens, she reacts with aplomb and moves on. I'm seriously in love with her character.
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3 meowingme
May 23, 2020 at 11:59 PM
Yi-sang is weird and Jae-young is aggravating, but it warmed me to my toes that these guys were there for Ha-ri when she needed support.
So happy to finally see spiffy Park Byung-eun! Him protecting Ha-ri from mom's beating and saying he gets her because he is also a dad is super sweet. But totally agree with @dramallama that theirs resembled more of a sibling dynamic.
And I guess this is a romcom which is why Yi-sang's always there on Ha-ri's worst moment, but how is he so charming! All those secret smiling, speaking through gazes and scooting closer on the bench, melted me to a puddle... Am convinced that he wasn't himself on their first meeting and he's been regretting his behaviour then. Am 100% behind Yi-sang & Ha-ri blooming comradeship, but wonder whether their opposite views regarding children will be a bone of contention in the future.
Ha-ri kicking Jae-young to his knees and the lift showdown with Eu-tteum is epic! Now if she can just do the same to her insufferable doctor...
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SuShin
May 24, 2020 at 12:54 AM
Her OB/GYN doctor should go to Yul-Je hospital (Hospital Playlist) and take some lessons on bedside/OPD manner from there.
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Zora
May 24, 2020 at 1:38 AM
Seok-hyung is the best male OB-GYN in the entire Kdramaverse! 😆
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sugarpunch
May 24, 2020 at 1:52 AM
Yes! I was appalled by her OB/GYN's attitude. I've met doctors like that before, and they act flippantly toward the patient.
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Ayalynn
May 24, 2020 at 9:52 AM
Yes! That's what I was thinking too!
Both shows are on tvN so they can totally have crossover!
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Bunny Bean loves Uppa
May 24, 2020 at 7:52 AM
I was so surprised to know that Byung-Eun is a doctor and that too a pediatrician considering all the mess he is creating and the way he is struggling with Do -Ah but I totally respected him when he unconditionally supported Ha-Ri both the times.
Yi-sang is also becoming more predictable very unpredictability because he was so picky and sarcastic earlier, but he didn't falter to support Ha-Ri in the best possible way whenever he saw her in her most embarrassing moments and that too without judging her?? I think her upfront behavior and courage is making her fall for her as all he might need in a relationship is security which he didn't get from his previous one?
I'm so onboard to watch how this takes place
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Eazal
May 28, 2020 at 12:46 PM
After we learned that Byung Eun is a doctor, we also learned that he wanted to become a Professor in the University, and if you remember episode 2, in the funeral, it seems as that's the position his ex-wife got. So I can understand how much he's been betrayed: his wife left and abandoned him and their children, and also pursuing the professional career he has to quit to raise his child. In fact, Byung Eun's position would usually the "women"'s position.
I can understand he's a mess a father. He's been through a lot.
But his live for DoHa and his other family (HaRi and mum) will help him.
I don't see any romantic relation here.
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meowingme
May 28, 2020 at 6:45 PM
Wow, totally missed it about the professor position. That's a double whammy for poor Jae-young...
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Bunny Bean loves Uppa
May 28, 2020 at 10:29 PM
I also missed that His wife got that position. That definitely proves how much he must be feeling betrayed
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Eazal
May 28, 2020 at 11:02 PM
@meowingme @bunnybean in the funeral, when he's drinking with his colleague he mentions that she's got to work with Professor something as his aid, if I'm not wrong.
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Bunny Bean loves Uppa
May 28, 2020 at 11:11 PM
Yeah, I checked it again. It's there!!
4 SuShin
May 24, 2020 at 12:49 AM
I don't know but I really feel like Yi-Sang is quite alarmed by the fact that Jae-Young and Ha-Ri sharing a house. Their first encounter 3 years ago mighy be a disaster. But now as he gets to know the her more and more, thers're no doubt he's getting attracted by her unusual charms.
Also, Jae-Young announcing it in front of Yi-Sang makes me think he indeed has feelings for her too. As we saw in the flashback that Ha-Ri, in her golden years, seems oblivious about men pursuing her and treats everyone as fellow human being (be it childhood friend or work associate). I bet Jae-Young had also tried to flurt with her but she didn't get the hints.
But Eu-Ddeum...this dude, I dont't know what I should feel about him. At times he seems cute but those insensitive comments he keeps making had me wonder if he's just too young or if he's a total idiot.
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BC
May 24, 2020 at 1:47 AM
In Korea there's this saying that man and woman can't be friends that there must be all the time a romantic or sexual intention behind. I think it's stupid to think that way but it can be that case when you read the statistics about illegal surveillance cameras and that mostly women get raped by their closest ones.
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SuShin
May 24, 2020 at 3:10 AM
I think that perspective is slowly changing. The term 'Nam-Sa-Chin' (male-human-friend) is being used incrementally.
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BC
May 24, 2020 at 4:37 AM
That's good. It takes normally 3 generations to change the customs of society.
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Eazal
May 28, 2020 at 12:50 PM
I have the same feelings about Eutteum. I still think he's an idiot that has no emotional intelligence, or he would have figured out that calling a sunbae "imo" all the time was making her feel uncomfortable.
But then, I think that he's not concious.
Just as HaRi is not aware of a men flirting with her, he's not aware he can be mistaken as a flirt (the band aid scene) or as an intrusion (all the imo references).
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5 geminirat
May 24, 2020 at 1:10 AM
Thank you for the recap, @dramallama! I think that the sperm donor rule is all about building a family for every child; that each child deserves a complete set of parents. I believe it comes from the way the culture looks at it. In some cultures, companies are "indifferent" to philandering husbands, while in their culture, a philanderer can still be a big issue in both the company he/she is working for and the community he/she lives in.
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6 Fly Colours
May 24, 2020 at 1:48 AM
Thanks for the recap @dramallama! I was confused by the psychiatrist's scene, because the subtitles for Yisang's last lines weren't still there when I watched it Viki. So, "self-apology" is what I was missing... interesting.
Jaeyoung really hit rock bottom, didn't he? Day boozing and not washing are alarm signs, but changing your baby's nappy over some homeless person's cardboards is a new low for me 🤣 (this said, I admit to having changed nappys on pretty bad places... you do what you've got to do)
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Bunny Bean loves Uppa
May 24, 2020 at 7:55 AM
I still couldn't believe he was a doctor. But given the struggle he is in both being a single parent and a heart broken one, adding the rock support he is becoming for Ha Ri, I'm liking his character!!
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7 sugarpunch
May 24, 2020 at 1:50 AM
I think the system in my country is somewhat similar to the system in South Korea. There needs to be a traditional family unit before you can qualify for assisted reproduction and adoption. Surrogacy is illegal, due to the possible ethical issues that may arise.
I do not agree that a traditional family unit is needed for raising a child, but I represent the minority opinion in my society. From what I understand, the laws in my country have to reflect the conservative values of the majority (i.e. those who are unable to accept homosexual relationships, non-traditional family units and to a small extent, single mothers...), so they hide behind the excuse of "child's welfare" to avoid working on laws that may prove unpopular, but yet protect the welfare of the minorities.
I honestly have considered Ha-ri's way and my beliefs are quite similar to hers, so this drama is quite close to my heart. Kudos to the scriptwriter for showcasing the struggles and judgment a woman has to endure just to conceive a child / to raise a child on her own, like Ha-ri's mother.
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BC
May 24, 2020 at 2:35 AM
"they hide behind the excuse of "child's welfare" to avoid working on laws that may prove unpopular, but yet protect the welfare of the minorities." So true.
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Fly Colours
May 24, 2020 at 3:55 AM
My country had similar laws - and people with similar ideas - until some 15 years ago. Fortunately, people's backward ideas change faster than we think! I remember having huge discussions with friends and family over these issues, and nowadays nobody bats an eye. Only surrogacy is forbidden, due to ethical issues, and you can adopt or opt for IVF alone or as a same-gender couple.
I hope this drama contributes with it's grain of sand to the dialogue about these issues in SK
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sugarpunch
May 25, 2020 at 3:30 AM
Thanks for letting us know about this, I think it provides some encouragement to people who are in countries with non-progressive laws wrt this aspect >< I think the minorities will not stop fighting for their rights and I hope the society's mindset will shift accordingly :)
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Eazal
May 28, 2020 at 12:58 PM
People's point of view change so quickly.
Marriage between people of the same sex was legal only 15 years ago, and the conservative party in my country would move every juridic resource to abolish it, as it was seen as illegal by them. Not really, only by that minority they stand for that was against it and they have to "play the great show" for them.
15 years later no one cares about who marries who, if a baby has two mothers, two parents, one of each.
The only important thing is that there's love in a family.
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Arlene
May 24, 2020 at 1:31 PM
I wonder why surrogacy in SK is not legal when abortion is legal. What ethics are they talking about?
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8 BC
May 24, 2020 at 2:32 AM
I love that they are introducing topics which are quite questionable in each society. Single dad, changing rooms, knocking a random guy to get pregnant, the love for your parent, etc. In western society you're as you get to a certain age parents are mostly sent to retirement homes. Even if it is expensive people prefer their own personal comfort to plenty of stress.
I don't know because it's the blood line thing with East Asian countries but they didn't introduce adoption as an option. It's sure that having your own kid gives you no excuses if something goes wrong but there're plenty of abandoned kids thirsty for love and support.
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Bunny Bean loves Uppa
May 24, 2020 at 8:00 AM
Yeah, in normal life we don't even think much of these issues, but after watching it here, it definitely have more weight. How struggling it is for single parent both ways, how society judge people who wants to go beyond their so called stupid laws and immediately go boycotting things, and no line between professional and personal life?
I was angry everytime when a Mother was telling Ha Ri that she won't understand as she is not actually a Mom?? Really?
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Eazal
May 28, 2020 at 1:03 PM
I'm surprised adoption isn't shown also, but given the fact that a single woman cannot be the subject of a IFV, I'd stake my life that it's not legal to adopt unless you are married.
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BC
May 28, 2020 at 10:35 PM
Oh, yes!!! It's really hard to adopt for single parent anywhere I think. It depends on your financial situation 🤔 I've forgotten 😟
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9 marina
May 24, 2020 at 2:48 AM
I just came to say Go Joon is so damn f good🔥! The end.
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Bunny Bean loves Uppa
May 24, 2020 at 7:56 AM
He is the highlight!!!
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Smile🌻
May 24, 2020 at 5:04 PM
I'm so smitten with him right now! He is so handsome and I love his cute facial expressions! He always seems to be in on a joke I want to be a part of.
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10 Ayan
May 24, 2020 at 3:01 AM
Thank you for the recap!
I agree Jae-young seems more like a brother to Ha-ri and he might be the one to have a crush. (Maybe his ex wife asked him to cut off the friendship, because he had strong feelings for Ha-ri)
I was pretty grossed out watching him change the nappy on the cardboard boxes. Surely he could put his jacket on the floor of the changing room. I like the writer showing how important it is to have more baby changing spaces and ensuring men's toilets have them too.
Yi-sang, he is definitely more interested in Ha-ri than he makes out and I'm glad he didn't seem to care or judge her for going after what she wants.
I'm very disappointed that her colleagues would have that reaction, even her boss. I was hoping that Ha-ri would own the situation and say this is what happened, our readers need to know, let's include in the paper and be confident about it.
I guess I would like the show more if wasn't going towards the romcom route. I found this episode frustrating and I'm just not enjoying the show.
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11 welh
May 24, 2020 at 5:09 AM
From the beginning, I thought adoption should have been mentioned as an option. Yes, single mothers are a taboo subject in Korea. But look at the situation with Jae-young: he is struggling in focus and execution of his single parent role but no one has questioned him about being a single parent.
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Aurora
May 24, 2020 at 1:44 PM
I guess no one questioned him being a single dad because he fathered a child as a product of marriage ( though he’s divorced). I’m sure people frowned on his ex-wife who abandoned them to advance her career. Usually people tried to have their biological children first no matter how difficult that would be. If all other options are exhausted, adoption is the last resort. I
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LucyM
May 24, 2020 at 3:27 PM
I assumed that if SK doesn't allow single women to buy sperm to have a baby on their own it wouldn't allow them to adopt on their own, either.
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darthamyindramaland
May 24, 2020 at 5:22 PM
I assumed the same as well but then I suddenly remembered Mother in which Lee Bo-young’s character was able to adopt even though she was single and an ex-convict so it seems to be a possibility.
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12 Kurama
May 24, 2020 at 6:25 AM
How can Jae-young be a pediatrician and know so little about kids? I mean when he was a single father without a job, I could understand he has some difficulties, but now...
I'm curious why she didn't think or mention adoption. She could help a child without parents and she could be a mother. It's complicated, a lot of administration, but it could be a good solution, she doesn't care about the father anymore. She seems to be the kind of person who can give love to everybody.
Go Joon is killing it in this role. He doesn't say so much but he can express it very well.
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Bunny Bean loves Uppa
May 24, 2020 at 8:02 AM
Agree about Jae-Young part, but he is too stressed considering the recent break up and single parenting, but that was surprise for me too!!
I think Korea might be having laws for adoption too, they may cover it in coming episodes.
I never thought he would be so simple minded, soft and supporting?? Really like him!
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BC
May 24, 2020 at 1:29 PM
I don't think that every pediatrician needs to know about raising a child. It's a profession, he can be great in making the right diagnosis and have knowledge how child's corp works but he doesn't need to be a great "mummy".
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Kurama
May 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM
I think a pediatrician should know more than only making diagnostics. They follow the children for vaccins, height, weight, etc., the routine. They should be able to answer parent's questions like the quantity of milk for a 8 months old baby.
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BC
May 24, 2020 at 2:20 PM
It depends on a baby. Some do need more some less because they're eating already mixed food as well. That is a thing you can find in any parental guide.
My son's pediatrician gave me a paper with meal suggestions but my first son was a bad eater so It only stressed me. He was drinking more milk and he's fine.
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13 TurtuallySarcastic
May 24, 2020 at 7:24 AM
Thank you for the recap! Nice to see Lee Dong-Gun and Yeo Hoi-Hyeon (Girls' Generation 1979) cameo in this episode.😀
Mother hiding behind Hari when the car went through the puddle gave me a nice Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok-Joo flashback and a good laugh.😂
You know that moment when you’re like “Yep, that’s the one?” My thoughts exactly when Yi-Sang slammed that door in her face, not to mention his reaction and friendly behavior afterwards.😂 How did he get to me in merely 3 episodes?
I loved how mom told Jae-young to cherish his time with his daughter and how he decided to follow that advice and get out of his funk. It is a shame that there are not enough changing tables (in Men’s restrooms).
Lots of poignant arguments this episode, and for the first time each point of view was actually right. I am curious to see which answers the show will pick, because the right answer probably does not exist.
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Bunny Bean loves Uppa
May 24, 2020 at 8:07 AM
There are too many simple points the show is throwing at us enveloping the major issue of having a baby without getting married or partner. So far the show had put forwarded so many valid arguments and somewhat answers as well, but I'm also curious to see which direction this will take? As we have seen many dramas having fantastic and novel premises and wonderful actors going South with missing to hit the target. I would really hope, this would do a good job, I agree on the part there is no right answer!!
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14 Kafiyah Bello
May 24, 2020 at 8:00 AM
The revelations about the Korean system made me sad. That being said Ha RI is fabulous and I'm here for all her shenanigans. Jang Na Ra is so great in this role.
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Screentime
May 24, 2020 at 5:30 PM
This show is just saying out loud what most SKDrama has baked into it. Hojuje still reverberates in much of SK Drama and this is part of SK's job lot that goes with its version of family and clan.
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15 Bob
May 24, 2020 at 8:03 AM
Twice in this episode they subverted the overused 'Cinderella' trope. Twice a male character bent down to put shoes on the female character's feet, and twice they hesitated, stood up, and told the women to do it themselves. Since the scene was repeated that's got to have some significance.
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16 Ashes2Ashes
May 24, 2020 at 9:18 AM
Thanks a lot for the recap, @dramallama
It was quiet refreshing that the show had Ha Ri grapple with the ethical/moral dilemmas with the route she was taking so early on the journey. I was expecting her to try to go the sperm donor route, but wasn't expecting her to be 'caught' on her first try. And now the whole world and every one's mother knows about her quest. Again this kinda revelation is something that typically happens midway through the drama when the stakes are higher and people's emotions and relationships have become more entangled. But now that most of the people in her circle know she's jones-ing for a baby, will be interesting to see how she'd manage to 'stealth date' the 3 candidates . Surely, they'd see her intentions from a mile away.
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Screentime
May 24, 2020 at 5:39 PM
..."who would be the chosen baby daddy "...
What. Ha Ri does not have that power in this situation. This show is full of one way lens and its terrifying. As you note "Surely, they'd see her intentions from a mile away."... I don't think men needed that news to actually be wary. Sure men are famous for not noticing things, but I suspect on this they have huge built in radar. Ha Ri is a woman putting out danger signs and she means it.
This show should see a run on motor bikes, because these men can not run fast enough or far enough.
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17 Ashes2Ashes
May 24, 2020 at 9:47 AM
Fave moments:
*Loved Ha Ri and Omma's pretty woman date! And then omma and her confrontation near the end was so layered. Both are strong women and deeply love each other and are right in their own way.
*Also digging omma's relationship with Jae Young. Both trying to guilt trip each other over Do Ah's care was hilarious and her advice at the end was something that JY needed to hear.It's clear that he is a good guy and is understandable why omma wants them to get together.
*LOL, are those two ahjummas gonna make their attack on all the main characters? Even though they mean well, they are so insistent on pursuing the 'right' course of action while the hapless party can just meekly eek out their protest and receive their 'help'.
*Yayy,Yi Sang is not going the tsundere route! He already seems aware of his own interest in her. Also really loved when he said that despite reaching an age where he's expected to be THE adult, he finds himself floundering just like any young'un. Ha Ri and YS's telepathy game is cute and I like that it's taking them few wrong guesses before managing to 'read' the other's thoughts. Also was it just me who thought Yi Sang looked a bit worried about JY-HR 's closeness when he was looking back at them?
*Jae Young being a pediatrician was unexpected. He seems to be getting his act together and his eventual support of Ha Ri was really sweet. He's weirdly protective of her around Yi Sang when he didn't have any issues setting her up with the other dude in ep 2. May be it's a case of familiarity since he has just met YS and isn't too sure if he's a good prospect for HR yet.But his hesitation in helping HR change shoes is interesting.
*HR trying and failing to confide in her two closest friends about her literal ticking biological clock. The whole scene hit home. The older you get, the hang outs tend to become venting spaces and some of us somehow always end up on listening duty. Le sigh!
*Found the third lead guy harmless enough but then he went and outed HR. Sure he may have blurted out her name when the news first started without understanding the context, but then did he have to go and draw attention to the bruise to confirm her identity.Sometimes naive friends do more harm than vengeful foes.
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meowingme
May 24, 2020 at 12:00 PM
Omg, yes to your opinion about those two ajummas! Hope they keep popping up!
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Smile🌻
May 24, 2020 at 7:10 PM
They are hilarious and hope they keeping popping up too!
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Smile🌻
May 24, 2020 at 7:17 PM
There's so much to love in this drama and I think you encapsulated that perfectly! ❤
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18 Aevah
May 25, 2020 at 3:48 AM
I understand where Hari is coming from and the legal challenges she faces.
I'm still very young, but I've always known that I want to be a mother. But of course I can't become a parent by myself and I'll need to find a man for that. If I somehow cannot find someone by age 35, I've decided that I'll try other means. There will be difficulties just like Hari's so my best bet is to find someone.
My mother knows about my plans and is supportive.
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Aurora
May 25, 2020 at 11:09 AM
I’m cheering for you! It’s good to know. I hope you’re dream will come true! I think you’ll be a good Mom.
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Eazal
May 28, 2020 at 1:12 PM
You're mum is great.
Hope one day you'll be a great mum too.
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19 Slice-of-Life Dramatics
May 27, 2020 at 9:05 PM
I thought this episode was better as it started delving more into each of the 3 potential male suitors, to get the viewers more engaged in their individual character developments and back stories.
Oof about the part when Jae-young stepped into the baby lounge, only to find that there were only women / mothers in there. A sad reality, especially here in Asia, but I'm glad the show decided to include this scene to highlight this.
But no redemption for Jae-young really - the way he stuffed soiled clothes into Ha-ri's laundry like that. That's just downright rude and wrong, when he's already kind of "freeloading". And especially that scene when he tried to "guilt-trip" Ha-ri's mom to help him out with babysitting. I always find some behaviour very reprehensible - nobody is obliged to help you out. If they do offer their help, it is out of their goodwill and love (whether as a family member or close friend etc). But people shouldn't be put in a position where they feel like they have to be "forced" to offer to help you because everyone knows that is a "good, kind" thing to do. Real friends will not do anything to put you in a position like that in the first place.
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20 hannaehh
May 28, 2020 at 3:41 AM
I just started watching this drama and I feel so sad for Ha Ri. It’s just painful to see what women have to go through because of society’s expectations.
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21 Eazal
May 28, 2020 at 1:16 PM
Fave moments in this episode:
- Mum hiding behind HaRi not to get soaked by the car.
- Mum telling JaeYoung to cherish his moments with his daughter. Time flies.
- JaeYoung to the rescue, and then being he supportive brother that says he understands HaRi's wish to be a mum (I don't see any romantic feelings between these two, not now, not in the past).
- Yi Sang teasing HaRi, flirting with her while both of them are not aware of that and his smiles. OMG. Those smiles!!
- HaRi being HaRi and facing all the comments, critics, opinions about how you lead your life that every single woman in her 40's has ever had to listen to.
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22 Sashimy
May 28, 2020 at 2:13 PM
Jung Gun Joo's shocked face is golden.
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