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Hi Bye Mama! : Episode 14

by abirdword

It’s time for some clarity. Our heroine’s return to life has been such a shock to the general of order of things that those closest to her have forgotten to enjoy her company while they can. Yuri still has a little time left though, and spending it on carefree days has her questioning her resolve to move on to the afterlife. But while she’s not ready to move on anymore, Kang-hwa finally hits a breaking point and lets his real feelings out in his own efforts to move forward.

 
EPISODE 14: “It’s Not Your Fault”

It’s 2015, the day Yuri died, and Mom is on the phone with her, admonishing her to stay home. Mom hangs up, exasperated but knows that her daughter won’t ever listen to her. Dad mentions that he had a weird dream and feels uneasy, but neither really seems concerned. But then the phone rings and Dad picks up. As he hears the bad news, the phone falls from his hands to the floor.

Now Mom visits her support group, and she tells the women that she wishes that she had just convinced Yuri not to go to work that day, everything would be different. We move on to Kang-hwa drinking as Dr. Jang hovers over him, Kang-hwa blaming himself for Yuri’s death.

And now to the present, where Kang-hwa confesses to an already distressed Min-jung that their pick-up helper is actually the real Yuri, somehow brought back to life. Min-jung can only stare at Kang-hwa in return. Meanwhile, Yuri sits on her bed at home and worries over how she lost Seo-woo and Min-jung’s reaction.

Min-jung sits at her vanity staring at the photo of Kang-hwa and Yuri together, while Kang-hwa knocks at the locked door to try to talk to her. She doesn’t let him in that night, and he spends the entire evening sitting in the hallway. The door finally opens only when Seo-woo wakes up the next morning, and Min-jung swoops past Kang-hwa without a word to get Seo-woo ready for the day.

But eventually she returns to her vanity and leaves the door open this time. Kang-hwa tries to convince her of the truth, but Min-jung is in the denial phase of this bizarre circumstance. She refuses to believe that Yuri is back from the dead (understandably) and instead accuses Kang-hwa of telling hurtful jokes. Kang-hwa asks why she cried so hard if she really doesn’t believe it, and Min-jung counters, asking him why he waited until only now to tell her the truth. He says that he was flustered at first, but that he knows she can’t be the only one who is being misled.

Over at Hyun-jung’s bar, Geun-sang faces off with Sang-bong, kind of. He seems to speak directly to the ghost and demands to know why he’s following him, but a few seconds later it’s clear that he has no clue where Sang-bong actually is.

Geun-sang turns to Hyun-jung for support, but he finds his wife so preoccupied with her own troubles that she’s heaped a mountain of red pepper flakes onto the dish she’s making. Geun-sang asks if she’s worried about Yuri again, heaving his own big sigh, and it dawns on Hyun-jung that they’ve all been sighing (and worrying) a lot about Yuri. “I understand why Yuri hid from us,” Hyun-jung says, as she recalls Yuri’s guilt over everyone else struggling because of her return. Hyun-jung drops her work and runs out the door, leaving the restaurant in Geun-sang’s hands for the day.

Dad waits until the morning to tell Mom that he lost Seo-woo while out with Yuri. Mom is upset, not just that he lost Seo-woo, but what that does to Yuri and Min-jung’s relationship of trust. Yuri sends a text to Min-jung with an apology, but there’s no response.

Yuri thinks about the night before and her visit to Midongdaek. She learns that it was the ghost family who helped hide Seo-woo from Guk-bong, and also that they have been forced to ascend by Guk-bong. Yuri’s instinct is to blame herself, because they were caught helping Seo-woo, but Midongdaek tries to redirect by reminding her how much time the family had already had as ghosts. Yuri thinks she should cook for Pil-seung one more time as a thank you, but Midongdaek reminds her she has her own problems to resolve.

Back in the present, Mom interrupts Yuri’s thoughts to tell her that Hyun-jung is there to see her. Yuri seems reluctant to go see her friend, but instead of a weighty discussion, Hyun-jung is waiting outside with a smile and a hot car to go for a drive. Soon the ladies are zooming down the highway, windows down and hair flying in the breeze. They start their adventure with a bungee swing ride across a lake, and then grab some bicycles for a ride through the park. Hyun-jung notes her friend’s easy, big grin as they ride.

Min-jung, meanwhile, sits sullenly with Seo-woo. Seo-woo offers her some play food from her play kitchen and that gets a small smile from Min-jung, but she remains preoccupied, her eyes on the family portrait hanging on the wall.

Kang-hwa broods over the last text from his wife, still insisting that he’s joking and that he should never try something like it again. Dr. Jang stops by to try to persuade Kang-hwa to watch his surgery again, but Kang-hwa still says that he’s not ready yet.

Back at the park, the ladies settle into a bench with some coffees. Hyun-jung asks if Yuri was also watching her for the last five years, and Yuri smiles that of course she was around. Yuri says that Hyun-jung never forgot her birthday, even when Yuri herself forgot about it. Hyun-jung says that she was likely struggling not to forget her friend. Hyun-jung says that at first, it felt like Yuri was just away for a while, like when she’d studied abroad. But once it sank in that Yuri would never return, all Hyun-jung could do was cry. Time passed though, and she was able to move on, though she felt guilty about it. Celebrating her friend’s birthday was her way of holding on.

Yuri tells her friend that while it made her sad to see her friends forgetting her, she was more afraid that people would never forget her and be sad forever. Hyun-jung realizes that Yuri knows about Kang-hwa and his inability to leave her behind, and Yuri accepts his struggles at work as her fault. Hyun-jung tells Yuri that it wasn’t her fault, but Yuri says that she made a choice.

At the bar, Geun-sang gives Midongdaek a call to deal with his ghost worries. Midongdaek is busy delivering a service for the ghost family. The other ghosts linger behind her, accusing her of being heartless. But Midongdaek warns that Guk-bong sees them all as demons, and it’s only a matter of time before he comes for all of them. She tells them to hurry and resolve their regrets before it’s too late. Her speech is interrupted, of course, by Geun-sang’s call.

It grows dark as Min-jung continues to sit alone in the apartment, and finally she’s had enough and runs out into the night. She ducks behind a wall when Hyun-jung and Yuri park their car nearby. They’re headed for Yuri’s house for food and drinks, and Min-jung follows at a distance. Min-jung hears Yeon-ji call out Yuri’s name, and once they’re inside, Min-jung walks up to the address plaque on the house. There are all of the family names, including Cha Yuri.

Inside the house, Yuri’s whole family gathers around to eat and drink. They’re glad to have Hyun-jung over again after so long, though Mom says she understands that Hyun-jung kept her distance to avoid reminding them of Yuri. Dad even tears up, though Mom admonishes him right away for being silly. The group laughs and jokes, and Hyun-jung captures a photo of the whole group.

On his way home, Kang-hwa spots Min-jung storming back as well. She walks up to him and without a word, begins to hit him softly in the chest. Her face breaks into sobs, now that she finally knows the truth.

At Yuri’s house, Hyun-jung has left and the rest of the family lines up on the floor for cucumber masks. Mom asks if Yuri had fun, and then smiles that they’ll be able to enjoy things like that from now on. Sigh. The moment is interrupted by Dad’s snoring, and the ladies laugh.

Midongdaek arrives for her visit to Geun-sang, and on the way in, she spots Sang-bong and puts him in a headlock. When she drags him in though, Geun-sang can’t see a thing, but he accepts that she has someone to drag inside with her.

Geun-sang refuses to sit at the same table as Midongdaek and the ghost, and instead sits a table away and texts Hyun-jung frantically. Now that Geun-sang knows which ghost is lurking around him, he asks if he’s being haunted because he refused to issue a fake diagnosis. Midongdaek asks Sang-bong why he’s lingering, and Sang-bong says that Geun-sang is the only one who knows that his death wasn’t a suicide. Midongdaek’s eyes grow wide at that new information, while Sang-bong asks Geun-sang to tell his mother.

Min-jung and Kang-hwa return home. Min-jung says that it must have been fun for them all to see how much she adored Yuri like a fool. Min-jung tells Kang-hwa that she was the first person he should have told about everything. He says that he hadn’t seen her look so happy with other people in a long time, and he didn’t want her to get hurt. Min-jung tells him that before taking care of her pain, he needs to take care of his own issues. “You’re a mess,” she tells him.

The next day Yuri asks the daycare director when Seo-woo will arrive, but learns that Min-jung has decided to keep Seo-woo at home that day. She looks at her phone, and with no response still from Min-jung, she considers giving Kang-hwa a call.

Kang-hwa, meanwhile, has heard from all of the women in his life now about how messy his life is right now. Both Yuri and Min-jung yelled at him for claiming that he’s fine when he’s clearly not, and now he’s faced with the looming operating room doors. Dr. Jang is in his office complaining to Kang-hwa’s psychiatrist when Kang-hwa arrives himself and indicates that he’ll be there to observe the surgery after all.

On her way home, Yuri spots her mother on the way to the hospital for her regular checkup. She offers to accompany Mom to her appointment. On the way, Yuri squeezes her mom’s hand as the bus lingers at a crosswalk. Mom looks up in surprise, but Yuri knows how her heart always races at crosswalks. As a ghost, Yuri often watched, unable to reassure her, as her mother’s anxiety would climb. Mom says that her body seems to remember the tragedy, even when she’s not consciously trying to remind herself.

The nurses stare at Geun-sang as he sits in the waiting room among the visitors. He tells them that at least here there are other people around, instead of his empty office. He says that someone asked him for a favor, but he’s not sure if he should do it. They say he should as long as it isn’t something difficult, since it’s not as if a dead person asked for something. That’s exactly what happened, and he says so, but then darts away when he sees Kang-hwa dressed for surgery.

Geun-sang is worried for his friend and tells Kang-hwa to duck out as soon as he starts experiencing panic. Kang-hwa is resolute, even as the other surgeons give him concerned glances as they stand at the surgery doors. They go inside the operating room, and Kang-hwa stares at the doors a moment alone before joining them.

Yuri and Mom are at the hospital now too, and Yuri asks why Mom decided to stop seeing Kang-hwa. Mom says that she’d rather not be a constant reminder of the pain from his past. Mom is called in for her appointment, leaving Yuri in the hall, and that’s when she overhears from a pair of nurses that Kang-hwa went into surgery to observe, and rushed out in a panic after only ten minutes.

Yuri’s up and running immediately, while the rest of the surgery staff have no clue where Kang-hwa has disappeared to. Yuri knows him though, and she finds him in the stairwell that he always goes to when he experiences the panic attacks. She crouches down with him and encourages him to breathe. Her hands on his shoulders, he finally looks up and sees her there with him.

And of course she would know where he would go, because she’s been here in this stairwell many times before as a ghost. All of those times before though, all she could do was linger at his side, a phantom, unable to calm him or hold him.

Now though, she’s there in the flesh, and Kang-hwa buries his face into her shoulder. “Why did you do it? Why did you leave me all alone?” he says between sobs.

And now it’s time for the final revealing flashback, the one that shows us everything that happened to Kang-hwa the day that Yuri died. His day started with a confrontation with Dr. Jang. A man needed immediate surgery to survive, but Dr. Jang insisted that they had to perform surgery on a waiting VIP patient.

Kang-hwa refuses to obey and takes his team to the operating room of the urgent case. He tells them to take the phones off the hook and lock the doors. He won’t answer to Dr. Jang until the surgery is complete.

That is when Yuri arrives, of course, and as soon as Dr. Jang sees her on the stretcher he orders the staff to find Kang-hwa. But Kang-hwa is unreachable, and the longer they wait the more at risk Yuri and her baby are. At that, Yuri reaches up to Dr. Jang’s sleeve and begs him to save her baby first.

By the time Kang-hwa exits surgery, it’s too late. He runs to Yuri’s room, but she’s already cold on the table. He finds Dr. Jang to scream and blame him, and then sobs in the corner of Yuri’s hospital room.

Back in the present, Kang-hwa tells Yuri she should have lived, and Yuri holds him tightly and says that she’s sorry, over and over again. “Stop blaming yourself,” she says. “It’s not your fault.”

Dr. Jang hears the psychiatrist’s explanation of Kang-hwa’s guilt again. The doctor explains that Kang-hwa felt not just guilt, but resentment and regret, all tangled up together, and that the person who triggered these emotions is gone, so he’s pushed all the emotions down rather than processed them.

At home, Min-jung stares at the apology text from Yuri. She spots the jewelry box, forgotten in her purse until now, and pulls out the three friendship bracelets she purchased. After a moment, she closes the lid and stows the box away in a drawer.

Dr. Jang and Kang-hwa go out for drinks after work. Dr. Jang encourages Kang-hwa for trying, and hopes that he’ll keep it up so that he can stay longer than ten minutes. Dr. Jang wants to know what made Kang-hwa change his mind and try treatment at last. Kang-hwa says that he knows that Yuri wants him to move on, and that it’s probably time to do so now that she’s alive again. Dr. Jang doesn’t get it, but Kang-hwa just smiles. Dr. Jang asks if Kang-hwa has to forget her entirely, and if he can just remember all the good things. But Kang-hwa says that it’s the good memories that immobilize him with sadness.

Geun-sang recounts to Hyun-jung about Kang-hwa’s attempt to attend a surgery, and how he found Yuri already in the stairwell with him. Geun-sang says that it was too painful to watch Yuri apologizing to Kang-hwa over and over, and Hyun-jung asks why Yuri should apologize when she’s the most unfortunate one.

On a park bench, Yuri sees the photos Hyun-jung has shared with her from the family dinner the day before. There are great photos and a goofy one of Dad, and each one makes Yuri smile. “I want to live too.”

Back at the bar, Hyun-jung tells Geun-sang finally that Yuri wants to live. He asks what the problem is then, since Yuri is alive, and Hyun-jung finally tells him that Yuri is going to die soon. As soon as the words are out of her mouth, Kang-hwa walks through the door. “What did you say? Yuri is going to die?” he asks, incredulously at first, and then he breaks into a scream as he demands to know why Yuri is dying again.

Yuri visits Midongdaek and tells her urgently that she wants to live now. She doesn’t see how she deserves this as punishment, and she wants to spend time with her family for a long time yet.

In a flashback to Yuri and Hyun-jung’s park outing, Hyun-jung asks Yuri when she wanted to be alive the most during her time watching them as a ghost. “Right now,” Yuri tells her, admitting that it’s now that she’s alive that she wants to stay with them the most.

Standing resolutely in front of Midongdaek, Yuri asks again, “Can I live?”

EPILOGUE

It’s 2015, and Kang-hwa tells Yuri’s family over dinner about the petition he’s started to stand up to the VIP treatment at the hospital. They’re all impressed with his integrity and Kang-hwa is proud, happy to receive their praise. Even Yuri supports her husband’s efforts.

After her death, he receives a gift basket from wife of the patient he saved that day. But the basket brings him no comfort as he looks at the photo of Yuri on his desk, and he sends the gift to the floor in a rage.

Geun-sang comes in then and tries to convince Kang-hwa that it wasn’t his fault. Geun-sang says that even if they had managed to reach him, it would have been too late. But nothing comforts Kang-hwa, and all he can do is say he’s sorry as he clutches Yuri’s photo.

 
COMMENTS

Now we finally have the full picture when it comes to Kang-hwa’s guilt. He was busy standing up for a cause he believed in, one Yuri supported him in, and it left him with the pernicious “what if” question. What if he had been reachable and had rushed to her side, would things have been different? Could he have convinced her to prioritize her own life? Those who were there know that it wouldn’t have changed anything, but it’s plagued Kang-hwa all these years.

And his feelings are complicated. He feels guilt for his own actions, but it’s mixed in with resentment too. Yuri “chose” to ask Dr. Jang to save their child before her, and though clearly Kang-hwa understands that, grief has a way of twisting those feelings. It’s left Kang-hwa angry, as those Yuri chose to leave him behind.

His psychiatrist mentioned that Kang-hwa became particularly stuck because the person he needed to confront with his emotions, Yuri, was gone. So it makes so much sense for him to finally unburden all of those feelings in the stairwell with her. I’m just so grateful that these two finally shared a real embrace after so many almost pats on the shoulder they’ve been holding back. And while this seems like a big breakthrough for the guy, Kang-hwa’s reaction in the bar to the news of Yuri’s limited time left makes me think that this only further bonded him to her. Will things be different if Yuri “chooses” to leave for the sake of their daughter for the second time, but this time with the ability to tell him not to feel guilty? It’s really hard to see how anyone will feel anything but devastated if that is Yuri’s final fate.

But of course, Yuri has finally admitted that she really wants to stay and enjoy life with her family. I think it’s been easy so far for her to deny her real desires and tell herself that it only makes sense to move on. She’s spent five years feeling like her presence just drags her loved ones down, and her coming back to life has only seemed to amplify that in her eyes. Thank goodness that Hyun-jung caught on to what their behavior was doing and made an effort to really enjoy time with Yuri. It was such a small, painful moment, to see Yuri hesitate at the thought of spending time with her best friend. But so far, all the time has been spent crying and sighing (with a few opportunities to beat up the local gossips). Yuri’s time back among the living has been emotionally fraught. She’s been not only managing her own feelings about what is happening, but everyone elses’ as well. It hurts that Hyun-jung’s efforts are coming now that we’re so close to Yuri’s end, but at least it’s happening.

And then there’s my favorite, Min-jung. She’s hurt, she’s betrayed, and she’s very alone again. We’ve known since the beginning that keeping her in the dark was going to make for complications. But I’m not so sure that it was the wrong thing to do. I suspect that if Min-jung had known who Yuri was from the start, she never would have opened up to her the way she has her friendly pick-up helper. Without Yuri in her life, she wouldn’t have become friends with Hyun-jung or stood up for herself. She would still be very alone, possibly in the process of a divorce.

Of course, this betrayal has had a similar outcome. Min-jung is isolated again, though now with a battered heart. If we’re lucky, she’ll give everyone another chance to earn her trust again. But I also wouldn’t blame her if she walked away.

I have to give it to this show for keeping me mixed up all the way to the finale. I have absolutely no idea what I want to happen. I assumed all along that Yuri would learn to move on, and help everyone else learn that lesson as well. But right now, it feels like the lesson was for Yuri to learn to want to live. Which… doesn’t feel like much of a lesson? If everyone just gets Yuri back in their lives, does it mean that they haven’t really figured out how to move on? Or is there a way to have it both ways? What kind of ending could address both the importance of moving on and shedding guilt, and also give Yuri what she desires so much?

I also just don’t understand how everything we need to resolve can fit into just two more episodes. Forget about Yuri and her whole situation. What are we going to do about Pil-seung? About Sang-bong and his death? About all the other ghosts who are looking for resolution before they’re ejected from their ghostly forms? Somehow we’re going to help them all, and find an ending for Yuri? And for Kang-hwa? And Min-jung? I want to trust in the show, but there’s also so much I still want from it.

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After a long 14 eps, Kang-hwa has finally made a step forward to confront his trauma and we got to see the full backstory of the said trauma. Only to have him accidentally heard from Hyun-jung about Yu-ri's possible death in the near future. Aughh... I don't like to imagine how this news is going to wreck the tentative progress on his mental health he just made. I really hate how almost everyone found out about many important truths by chance in this drama. Can't we at least have Mom, Dad, and Yeon-ji hear the truth from Yu-ri herself??

I continue to sympathize with Min-jung. I feel that she is the biggest victim in this whole mess-up situation. I'm half sad and half glad to have her finally broke down in front of Kang-hwa. That was a long time coming. And I have to say I'm relieved that her rare moment of harsh truth stunned Kang-hwa enough to realize that he has neglected his own well-being all this time. Both of them have finally let go of their bottled up feelings, and I hope everything's going to get better for this couple. That's not too much to ask, isn't it? Seriously, drama, you owe Min-jung all the happiness in the world for all you've subjected her into.

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Okay, everyone and I mean almost everyone in the comments that I have been reading have been lamenting about how sad it is for Min Jeong and basically YuRi should die again so that Min Jeong and Kang Hwa can be happy. Okay, I get that MJ is a well loved character, I like her too, very much but sorry she has not suffered more than Yuri.

This is an unfortunate situation where everyone is suffering in some manner but trust me, Yuri got the rawest deal. The man she loved, her soul mate loved another woman and married her (after he swore he would never do this) and her child that she carried for those months and was excited to see, never knew her or called her that precious words: Mommy. Yuri entire world was blown to pieces in a matter of seconds and she lost everything and everyone and had to watch them suffer. When Yuri returned to life (for a short period) to save her daughter, she never showed resentment on anger, she just tried to help people move on and told them it was okay that she was gone. She was both kind and grateful to MJ and she even helped out the ghost at the sanitarium when she could. Yuri has constantly disregarded her own pain and put others before her. This has been one of the most selfless K drama characters I have ever seen but I am concerned because some of the comments I have read on other episode post and other blogs, are acting like she is a villain. WTF??
My position is, MJ saved Kang Hwa and Seo Woo, she was like a miracle to them but to me she was a filler or a ghost. I like MJ and she is a sweet, quiet person but she never belonged as Kang Hwa;s wife for me. I have always thought that. MJ was also very aware of what she was getting into and in the beginning she said she was so confident that she could make this family work but as she said the house was bombed. MJ was too silent in my opinion. MJ should have forced Kang Hwa to reckon with his issues instead of let them fester for years. I mean she had no idea (until recently) that Kang Hwa was in trouble at work and I have not seen any scenes of them actually comforting one another, everytime MJ wants to go to Kang Hwa it seems awkward.
People are mistakenly thinking Yuri is just waiting to go back up but I don't think like that. I am still cautiously optimistic that she will return but I feel like Yuri was never suppose to die in the first place. We see that when Yuri says save my baby and when Kang Hwa blames her for making the choice to leave. I think the dieties maybe wanted for Yuri to admit that she wanted to live ( something she has been denying herself of since the beginning). This show has been a journey for Yuri to choose LIFE instead of being accepting of death and now that she is alive again and with her family and friends, she understandably wants the chance that was denied her.
Seo Woo has only ever known MJ as her mother. MJ is a mom but Yuri is a mommy, both are great in their own ways but different. I have never seen...

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MJ really play with Seo Woo, I mean have you? MJ loves Seo Woo and does her job as a MOM but when have we seen her laughing with Seo Woo, not once.. When have we really seen her laughing with Kang Hwa, not once.. I will try to wrap it up but Yuri is not a villain for wanting to live and MJ is a good person but she should have forced Kang Hwa to reckon with his issues. My guess at this point is they will reset the clock to 2015. If they do, Yuri will most likely introduce MJ to Pil Seung and Pil Seungs family will still be around so they will see him marry a nice girl and then they can ascend instead of being forced too. Resetting the clock makes the most sense. Seo Woo will only have known Yuri as her mommy and MJ would have never loved Kang Hwa. MJ and Yuri can also still be friends with this scenario. I don't think Yuri has done anything wrong by saying she wants to live, I mean she was suppose to live but gave up life to save her baby.

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As I person who shares almost exactly the same Personality with mj... I don't really care for the marriage but, I will disagree with one thing... She isn't doing a JOB... She is that child's mother... Everyone does it differently, that does not mean she needs to be a yuri to be SW's mother...

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I said she is doing her job as a mother with no negative connotation. Being a mother is like a job, doesnt mean you dont love the job. Its the most underpaid, underappreciated job in the world but its also the most rewarding. I am guessing you dont have kids? LOL... Like I said MJ is a mom but Yuri is a mommy.." both are great in their own ways but different"... I didnt say she needed to be Yuri.

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Thank you so much!! You've said all what i wanted to say. And may i just add about what they are saying about Yuri's love ones to move on, there is no moving on when you lose someone you love, you just learn to live with the pain. Her family and Hyeon jeong has been doing that, only Kang Hwa can't do it because of the guilt he feels. I like Min Jeong too, but i really don't see how her marriage with Kang Hwa will work. I don't feel or see any connection between them. I wish for her to find someone who can completely love her, like Kang Hwa to Yuri.

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But Yuri died and we can't deny that. Why should she come back to life ? Why her ? There are other ghost's death that are as unfortunate as hers is. So why her and not the family that died in the car accident and left this lil boy with no family whatsoever? Why her and not the suicide idol that didn't even kill himself and it looks like he was assasinated? I would find it so unfair for the others if Yuri came back to life.

Don't get me wrong i love Yuri she Is so sweet, so Kind and all but her time have passed as much as she loves KH and SW she should just spend time with her child and go back up.

Also I understand she doesn't want to cause pain by telling she will die again, but if she doesn't tell her family so they get to say goodbye when the time comes well they will suffer even more because she will just die again.

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Because she's the heroine of the drama, the story revolves around her, just that simple 😂

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Lol.

Yup. That would be my answer too. It's up to the writer who wrote all of them and their misery.

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I agree with @Bluelei because she is the heroine, she is the Female lead not the other ghost but also, Yuri wasn't suppose to die and there lies the difference.

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What makes u say "Yu Ri wasn't supposed to die"? And what about the other ghosts? They were supposed to die?

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Lol are the other ghost the female lead? Yuri choice to die, in the episode she said save my baby first, she could have lived and Kang Hwa in the staircase seen said " You should have lived". They probably had limited time and had to save one of them, Yuri or Seo Woo and Yuri chose Seo Woo to be saved first. I am not concerned about the other ghost, I dont understand why everyone is.. They are just ghost in the drama with sad stories. If you have a problem with Yuri then why even watch this drama??

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@candiland haha you got me wrong. I do not have a problem with Yu Ri. (Really who can when she's just so good, like truly sincerely good!) I specifically asked what made you say Yu Ri wasn't supposed to die, because saying this is implying there was some kind of mistake by fate or smth (like how in Goblin Eun Tak wasn't supposed to live (her death card kept coming)) and that her (Yu Ri's) death was a "mistake". So i thought maybe I have missed smth but this is not the case. Like you said, like any other mother would, Yu Ri chose to save her daughter. I know you are firmly on the side of Yu Ri staying and you know I'm firmly on the side of Yu Ri going up, but I feel like the argument "She was never supposed to die" is invalid for your case due to the above mentioned reasons. Also, I understand she's the FL which is why she got this chance however that doesn't mean there shouldn't be an explanation for it. A good drama writer will always properly explain why a certain event had to happen to the FL, why her and not the million others!

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That's just so easy to say haa she Is the female lead and it's up to the writer. Yeah the story Is not about the other ghosts but you know what? they are here and we can't neglect them that Is just as simple too. If she died that's because she was suppose to die isn't it ?

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The answer lies in next episode and it's really heart wrenching to see it.

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I can't agree more.
I understand and love MJ, but I don't think that "she is the biggest victim in this whole mess-up situation".
I mean, since YR came back to life, she's happy. She smiles more now, has new friends and started to talk more to her husband and doesn't think that something is wrong with SW anymore.

If you ask me which character I feel more sorry for, I would respond GH or YR, never MJ.

Not even thinking about the time she was a ghost, but since she came back to life, Yu Ri most have felt so freking sad and scare all this time; thinking that after the 49 days, she wouldn't see her parents, sister, daugther, husband and bestfriends ever again. She shouldn't feel bad for wanting to live.
And GH, jesus, I want him to be so freaking happy. He's always worrying about something even tho he never has done something wrong, not really. And he's crying all the time, he's in so much pain...
I just want everyone to smile hahaha. I love them all.

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The things got pretty complicated because GH choose to remarry. Lol. But that was the set up to make all these things so heartbreaking.

The amusement date for the three is just so sad. Knowing tjat it could be their forst and last time as mom, dad and daughter reunion.

I shouldn't watch this at all. I don't know how I handle the heartbreak at the final later. I watched 49 days and that was so sad. And this one would follow its steps soon. Sobsssss😭😢

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Maybe MJ should've gotten the divorce. Their marriage is so awkward and sad.
The have been married for years but this is the first time that he actually wants or feels prepared to move on, and it's only because Yu Ri's back. She's the one that comforts him and helps him to feel better.
He never lets Min Jeong get near to him and his feelings...

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I'm absolutely agreed to this!!! I do feel sorry for MJ. Finally there's someone speak up about this. I mean, YR can leave later but should people completely forgets her just to move on. Well they can keep her close to their heart forever. Cherishes her as their precious memories and live on with it. YR deserved the happiness. At least SW has to know that she is her mom. It's so heartbreaking seeing how SW left her whenever MJ comes to her.

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I too don't believe MJ needed to know. It wasn't anyone but Yuri's secret to tell, and possibly GH. She wasn't trying to betray MJ and her treatment of her was truly genuine, so that MJ feels betrayed, I understand, but she needs to get over this and look past the hurt of not knowing and see everyone's actions instead. That is hard, but it needs to be done.

As for Yuri, I want her to be with her family because they all seem genuinely happy to have her. The heartbreak was so strong in everyone, that they barely questioned that she was alive, just that she was there. Her presence clearly makes everyone happier. That being said, I would understand if they said she had to go back. It is a tough situation, but I believe in the writers.

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Yikes. People really think a wife should be kept in the dark about something so important? I agree with MJ, she should have been the FIRST to know. Kang-Hwa treated her like a child (I wanted you to be happy with your new friends!!!), or like hired help (I felt awkward about telling you). Absolutely no one is giving MJ the respect she deserves except for Seo-Woo.

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Well it looks like a lot of people are fine with dismissing/overlooking MJ because KH and YR are soulmates and meant to be together. Maybe this is why I’ve never liked the concept of one true love and dramas championing it. Sends the message that life is nothing without that one person! 🙄

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I agree. I get the initial shock but I found it terrible that GH kept MJ in the dark while she unknowingly hired Yuri and made friends with Yuri.

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☕ Here you most be tired after writing so much sense...

At list à hired help gets paid... I feel sometimes yuri's mother too, also respects mj...

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Despite living as a ghost for 5 years, not able to touch her own baby, seeing her husband heartbroken, then move on and fall in love with someone else and get married... despite all this, when Yuri came back to life, she never once showed that resentment. Not once. And that, made me love her so much. Like who would be so selfless, so giving and understanding?

Only someone with a heart of gold. And that makes her a rare gem. Min Jung is great... she is awesome. I love her, but as Hyun Jung said, if I have to chose Yuri or MJ, I would choose Yuri a thousand times over and over again!

So I hope in the finale, the drama chooses Yuri too. That she is back for good. Even if it means MJ doesn’t get her HEA. But I hope she does too, but not by sacrificing Yuri’s.

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I could not agree with you more Lucy! As a mother I can't imagine the pain of seeing my child call someone else mom and then seeing my husband grieve on top of that.

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I disagree. It doesn’t make sense that Yuri, of all ghosts, gets the chance to temporarily go back to life. And then she also gets the chance to fully become a human if she wills it. What about the other ghosts? There’s no way to defend Yuri and say that she was more unfortunate, so why does Yuri get to go back to life out of all ghosts? I understand her feelings of wanting to stay alive, but I believe that the writers should not keep Yuri alive.

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I cried ugly tears when Gang Hwa was having his panic attack and Yuri was there to comfort him. This drama managed to wring out big fat tears out of me every single episode.

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I did the same. Too much crying scene for this episode. And this episode finally made me realize that GangHwa still loves Yuri. He finally said that she should've lived and how he devastated when Yuri died.

I have been reading all comments said that now GangHwa loves MinJung. I dont see it, yes he likes her but he only shows affection, not love. The chemistry between GangHwa and MinJung is not as strong as GangHwa and Yuri's.

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I think KH is the real problem that has not been resolved. He has been given a pass by everyone because of Yuri's death. What employer would give him 5 years employment without him being able to do his job as a surgeon? MJ has given him a pass on their marriage because of his guilt and self-loathing behavior.
Yuri has stated that she knows KH and MJ do love each other (she witnessed their romance; something we have not seen). Yuri was never jealous of the remarriage; she was thankful for it as a way for KH to heal and live a happy life. She knows MJ is a good mother to Seo-Woo.
KH has never said he wants to divorce MJ or get back together with Yuri. And I don't believe the writer will give him that choice.
What was Yuri's real wish? To live or to have an opportunity to say goodbye?

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Yuri keeps changing her mind on her goal, which makes me not entirely trust her. First she said it was just to protect Seo-Woo. When the ghosts found her she said she was there to protect Seo-Woo and help the ghosts. When her family and friends found out she sortof dropped the ghost bit and said she was there to say good-bye. Now she seems to have forgotten the Seo-Woo issue (spending time with her family, going zip-lining with the BFF, beating up the neighborhood ladies, etc. etc.) and she's pretty much forgotten the ghost issue (the family sacrifice for Seo-Woo got about 10 seconds of hand-wringing) now it is that she wants to live. So yeah, she's kindof all over the place in terms of motivation.

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"the family sacrifice for Seo-Woo got about 10 seconds of hand-wringing" so true... I couldn't understand the whole thing or why the son is in the show.

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Wait, isn't it so complicated? I mean, I personally always wonder about what love is and if it's ok to love at the same time, but it seems that it's what is happening for Kang-hwa right now. isn't it? He loves minjung and I call his feeling toward Yuri love too. Maybe the show is trying or will try to convince us that Kang-hwa has just lingering kind of feeling for Yuri, but what is love seriously?

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KH would not choose to love MJ if Yuri was not dead, would he? Love is a choice. Now Yuri is back alive and if she is allowed to live, KH has to make the choice on who he will love. It is not complicated, just a matter of choice.

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In previous episodes, the usual notion was that this would end with KH choosing the woman he can't live without--this episode seems to prove that that woman is Yuri and not MJ. I'm onboard for the reset thing, so that MJ isn't collateral damage, and everyone has an opportunity for a happy ending. It's very apparent that even Yuri herself has told (reminded) KH that he loves MJ, yet KH has neither confirmed this nor given any indication than he loves her on a level that would justify him and MJ staying together when there's an opportunity for him and Yuri to get back together (and I will really go down with the Yuri-GH ship). I just hope we have enough time to resolve everything and give this wonderful drama the ending it deserves.

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Whoah... I see a little hope by reading your comment. YR could habe happy ending with her family, hunsband, daughter and friends by a reset. That could make everyone return to the state where they can make things different. But I doubt the writer will agree with us though I hope he will do. Sigh...

It's still so painful everytime seeing KH and YR are holding their feelings for the sake of everyone's happiness.

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This was a great episode and a great recap! All the characters are so well fleshed out with unique quirks. The pacing of this drama suffers so that we get to know everyone and the writers are smart.
Yuri is not lying maliciously, she obviously loves and misses everyone in her life as much as they do her and hiding the truth is protecting them in her eyes. How is she supposed to tell everyone right away she's been a ghost haunting them for 5 years and now she's back for 49 days unless she gets her place back and her daughter sees ghosts? I wish the revelations were earlier but I also understand making it 'believable'. As the time goes on, it's getting harder for her to remain detached and just leave. I feel for her, she doesn't want to disrupt their lives and knows they're still recovering and missing her. Who wants to give their loved ones false hope?
I love HyunJung, she's the best bff. It was lovely to see them have fun and step out of their daily routine.
Poor GH and his trauma, glad Yuri was there and seems like he may recover but if she leaves, it might be undone. I cannot say enough of what an amazing job these two actors do bringing the emotions and the chemistry every episode.
I still don't see the MJ love angle. She really liked him and maybe he thought he could be happy again with remarriage but he went inward. Even MJ said her friends warned her not to marry him but she thought she if she persisted, they could have a happy marriage. Trying to change someone is never a good way to start a relationship. I think MJ has a better connection with Yuri than her own husband! As a mother though.. Seo Woo is stunted developmentally and she took action when other people told her? It seems like they were married for a few years only but still, you're a stay at home mom...why aren't you paying attention to your daughter? Her heart isn't in it, she's there for her husband who's never there for her.
There are alot of issues to resolve in 2 episodes, anxiously waiting to see how they do it. Why did Yuri get to come back? What about the other ghosts? I also agree a reset in timeline would probably be the best but anything goes really. Hoping for everyone to get their happyish ending.

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I hope they don't do a reset, that is a cop-out in terms of writing - we can't solve the issues nicely so lets just scrub out the whole thing. Probably the least destructive option, if Yuri gets to live, is for KH and MJ to divorce, and then KH and Yuri to re-marry with some sort of joint custody of Seo-Woo. They ought to be taking care of Seo-Woo first and foremost, and it really doesn't matter whose body that baby came out of, to Seo-Woo MJ was and is mommy and Yuri is playmate-stepmom-to-be. The better they are at keeping both mothers in Seo-Woo's life, the better she would be able to handle it when, someday, they tell her the whole freaky truth.

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you are acting like Yuri gave up SW for adoption or something when in fact she was brutally taken from her family. Also "the whole freaky truth" would be a lot easier to tell SW if they hadn't lied to her about who her biological mother was in the first place.

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Big thank you, abirdword, for the recap. I really enjoy reading your comment sessions. I really enjoy this show. The greatness of the show is the way they explore the intertwined interaction among friends, family, the lived and the dead, the past and the present. There are a lot of emotional scenes that move my heart. There are many occasions where the supporting casts steal the scenes as well.
I am also impressed with the actress who plays Min-jung (Go Bo-gyeol). I saw her played in some minor roles before (Arthdal Chronicles, Goblin). But she really shines in this one.

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OH. MY. GOD. I just realized something. What if Yuri taking back her place means not that she replaces Minjeong but Seowoo?????? It all makes sense since Yuri gave her life to save Seowoo. And she and Kanghwa remake the same decision in the end. To save Seowoo instead of Yuri. It'd be tragic but it makes sense now.

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This thought crossed my mind when he showed up too, ugh please no more noble sacrifices. This show needs to lighten up to balance the sadness like the earlier episodes.

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I can see that myself. The thing I'm really hung up on (& it might be me thinking too much) are the rules of the whole thing. This is suppose to be a punishment, so I'm super suspicious of the whole "hey just get your place back" thing. & the shaman isn't helping because it seems like she still keeping secrets.

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When the exorcist/reaper showed up, he said he had come for Yuri AND Seo-woo. At that point, I thought that both mother and daughter were to perish in the accident, but somehow, Yuri's pleas to save Seo-woo were temporally answered. Perhaps Seo-woo development issues is not because Yuri was hanging around her, but Seo-woo is what Yuri is now: part human, part ghost.
I gave up on the shaman's explanations of things since she could not explain the rule why Yuri got to live and the other ghosts did not. And an afterlife judgment is between heaven and hell, not a chance to re-set your life as if nothing happened "by taking back your place."

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I always wonder if Seo-woo is more than just a miracle baby where Yi-ri died before she was completed taken out from her womb.
That would maybe explain why she was able to see ghosts and why the reaper came for both of them.

This show breaks the rules and condition when it comes to reincarnation. It's unbelievable even as a folktale.

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It really needed that desperate hug between YuRi and KH. I know how dramaland deals with contact and I find it really frustrating (hey, I'm from Spain, we love hugs, and kisses and touching the ones we love), I just couldn't understand how the first reaction to both of them was not to melt into a hug. I only had to wait 14 episodes and a total breakdown of KH to see it. Better now than never.

So if now YuRi wants to live, she has to take back her place. She's already took back her place as a friend, and a daughter and as a sister, but... could she take it as a wife? Would KH take her? He loves her, of course, but he also loves MJ, and MJ is the only mum SeoWoo has known. Would he say yes to YuRi and no to MJ? It's his decision to make? If so I find it really cruel that he, the one who's most suffered from YuRi's death has to take that decision, because if KH takes her back... things won't be like they used to be: time has passed, he's still resents his wife for not choosing herself and leaving him alone... would it be a happy ever after KH, YuRi and SeoWoo? I don't think so.

So for me there are only two options: a reboot (which necessarily means that there's not SeoWoo as YuRi choses her life, with the burdens it implies), or YuRi explains everyone what happens, helps them to accept her death and heal their wounds while she promise to be always in their hearts.

I'm also wondering about the ghosts. Only two episodes left and too many things to be solved. Or maybe not, as the family was dealt is a minute and we'll never see them again.

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I liked the concept. But the story has been continuesly dragged repeatedly in flashback making a waste in time. Nothing new that I see. Sorry total waste of time.

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This is my first time to write a comment when the drama is still being aired.

It seems like i will run out of tears everytime i finished watching this drama. Seriously, i do really feel sad for our main leads.

The three of them deserve better. MJ is good, warm and i believe she loves Gang-Hwa and Seo Woo more than we can realize. But i can't stand watching Yuri blames herself for anything happened to Gang-Hwa and their daughter.

Seriously, from my point of view.. Yuri is the person who suffers the most. She should lived, she can't touch her daughter, separated from her loved ones, blames herself for this condition. But she still adores MJ and insists Gang-Hwa loves MJ and he should forget Yuri.

If i have to choose, of course my voice and my heart will be pointed to Yuri. This time she finally decided to live, please.. let her live, surrounded by her loved ones. She deserves better and second chance.

I think if Yuri will die again... her family, Gang-Hwa, Hyun Jung will be more devastated than the first time. Of course, it's just my opinion.

After all, this is a fantasy drama where anything is possible and can happen. It happened with MOTA, Familiar Wife, and etc. And this time, i hope happy ending will go to Yuri. Can i get an Amen?

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Amen! I took a break from Korean dramas and the Netflix trailer convinced me to give it a try. It seemed sweet and quirky but has been more heartbreaking than anything. Like it's been said a million times, why is it so sad with those two, Yuri and Gang Hwa? A reminder to self, never start a drama that hasn't finished airing!

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Yes, like i said before i will run out of tears whenever finishing every episode haha.

Since MOTA, i decided to retire as ON GOING Drama Team. I cant be patient waiting for next episodes.. but when i saw Hi Bye Mama trailer, i was like.. okay i will watch this even it has not finished yet.

Yuri-GangHwa deserve second chance along with SeoWoo. I just want happy ending for them

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Aigoo... Uri Min Jeong... what are we going to do with Min Jeong? She feels betrayed, she knows that GH doesn't lean on her, and she feels bad because she also knows that this kind of relationship is what they have built the past years. She never told him about the annoying, ahjummas and she didn't tell him right away about the learn problems SW had. She find out that he had a problem in the hospital, but she didn't say anything, and when she thought that he was having a hard time dealing with the 'appearance' of a woman that looks exactly like his dead wife, she didn't comfort him.

She knows that they did everything to end up like this, and she hates it. But, GH didn't know, he was so occupied dealing with his stuff, that he didn't realize what path they took, so now he's like 'aigoo, otoke, I messed up', but he doesn't see whole picture, he doesn't know what's wrong with their marriage. And sometimes I wonder if he actually cares. When he’s with her he's so... soulless? The look he gives to her is... weird in some way. He cares about her, and he likes her, but I'm not convince with the 'he loves her'.
He looks comfortable with everyone but her. In the hospital he's comfortable, in Misaeng he's comfortable, with Yuri he's comfortable, even with Yeon Ji he looks more comfortable fgs, so I don't know if he will fight for his marriage and I don't know if he should.

Min Jeong is not the one for Gang Hwa, and he's definitely not the right for her. She deserves someone that can love her with all his heart, not a little piece that was left. And Gang Hwa should be with Yu Ri so he can smile again and stop worrying and feeling sorry.

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I just hate it when most of the people here are only thinking about minjung. FYI this is Kim Taehee's drama. She's the main lead her and it's obvious that Lee Kyuhyung belongs to her because he's the male lead. Minjung is the second lead so why are you all expecting her to have a happy ending. Just wait for Go Bo Gyeol's next drama coz she's probably get a lead role and get a happy ending. I hate it when people forget about how good Lee Kyuhyung and Kim Taehee are because they're busy thinking about minjung's character. I know minjung is very kind and likable but Yuri is still the 1st wife and seowoo's real mom. You should be considerate to her character because it's obvious that she suffered more than minjung. She deserves to get her place back back coz it never really went to minjung. In her years as kanghwa's wife and seowoo's mom, she was never happy. She was sufferin too coz she can't really fill the void that yuri left. Kanghwa loves her but his love for yuri is much deeper. Can't you all see that? If they end up together then minjung will just be sad coz kanghwa's heart is always with yuri. If yuri dies again then there's a high possibility that kanghwa would never recover and he would only live miserably. That's why it would be best for everyone if Minjung leaves kanghwa and start a new life. She could still be seowoo's mom even from a far. It would be the time for her to sacrifice her own happiness for the betterment of everyone. Yuri should take her place back and be rewarded for all the years that she has suffered.

And can i just say that episode 14 is the best episode. Kudos to Lee Kyuhyung and Kim Taehee. That stairway scene was impeccable. Such a beautiful and emotional scene, I can't even give them enough praises for how great it was. Can't wait for these two to receive their top excellence awards! And Go Bo Gyeol deserves a new star award too.

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I couldn't agree with you more!! Seriously, it's so frustrating to see most of the comments only sympathizing with MJ. When at the end of the day, she isn't the main lead in this drama. I hope Kim Tae Hee and Lee Kyuhyung stars in another drama together in the future because their chemistry is amazing!!

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Heh, I'm one of those comments. But it's not just because of her. Like the recapper said, "it feels like the lesson was for Yuri to learn to want to live. Which… doesn’t feel like much of a lesson? If everyone just gets Yuri back in their lives, does it mean that they haven’t really figured out how to move on?"
I DO sympathize with Yuri and I WANT her to be happy. But it just... doesn't really feel right.

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Well... this is a drama. A drama tells a story. To some extent I will admit dramas bend over backwards to give their leads a happy ending, but not always - because it isn't a fan meeting, it's a story. And while your main characters should have the most to do and say and show the most growth (or plummet the lowest), they are still characters with a story arc and that is their primary function - the fact that they are Miss Wonderactress or Mr. HotStuff should be secondary, and left to those great little fanservicey BTS videos and presscons. So do I think Yuri should get everything she wants because she's Kim Tae Hee and working so hard? NO.

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Thank you!
I've been trying to say that but you did it better.

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Thank you, I am like whats up with all the MJ comments, her character barely speaks. I like her and shes nice but this is a show about Kim Tae Hee/ Yuri.. she is the female lead.. I am so ticked that people are trying their best to make her a villain for wanting to live, like she should sacrifice herself on the alter so that KH and MJ can live happily ever after. Umm no, first KH loves MJ but he is IN LOVE with Yuri ( there is a difference people) and Yuri deserves to live more than anyone. Some of the comments are annoying me, like MJ is this super sad victim, her situation is sad but KH and YR situation is worse in my opinion.

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I've been liking and commenting to echo these kind of comments. I couldn't agree more! I think If the writer sets her as a comma like what happens in let's fight ghost. Her chance to come back alive is bigger. But with this 49 days set up. It feels quite less hopeful. It seems KH is almost accepting and barely start crawling out from his trauma and now he hears YR will die again.. that is so cruel, writer can you make us happy for one episode. I cry almost in each episodes.

For MJ.. I feel sorry for her situation. But since the first time she knows that KH's heart still belongs to YR and he loves her so much. So it's not a betrayal she knows his situation. KH didn't tell her in the first place in order to prevent her from heartbreak. But well otherwise is also cause her the same.

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Finally i found this comment and i think the same. People forgot that it's Kim Tae Hee drama where she is the female lead and Lee Kyu Hyung is the male lead. So if they will end up together (again), it's fine.

I dont hate Go Byo Geol, i like her since she is Ji Eun Tak's friend in Goblin and Ban Do's crush in Go Back Couple.

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Lol. Yeah.. I love your comments! I don't get it either. YR is the most sorry here. I know it's her fate. And no one can't be blamed. But as you said seeing lots of people more sympathize over MJ and think that YR is the one should move on. Well, in fact her loved ones still can't accept her death and that what's make her stay as a ghost. YR doesn't have control over her fate. It's what the writer's will. If she has that power she could wake up from her death long before. It's a situation where no one can control as they wish. And I never thought that KTH and LKH chemistry is so great. If both didn't do this well I think it would be easy for me and I won't be that sad if she has to die again later. Sighhh... in the end people will die. It's just a matter of time. The important thing is we should do well and our best while we're living.

As GBY.. she used to be a antagonist in other dramas I have seen her before. This is the first time she got the protagonist character here. She's quite good as MJ but still my heart goes more for YR. Not because she is KTH but because she's such a lovable and selfless character for almost the entire episodes we have so far. Yup, ep 14, that stairway scene is just so emotional. I bawled my eyes out. If it's not because social distancing thing. I would go to work with sunglasses.

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Ahh... yes... not the first ya. She"s Ban Do's first love in GBC. And it was the drama with the same writer as this right. Aigooo

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Since I have no set actor or actress... Its interesting how we will excuse any nonsense the writer throws at us in the name or male lead and female lead... It doesn't help that am new to this ml and fl business....

But since am not watching this for anyone, I see clearly what I see...

Dear writers, please put your writing degrees to use and stop depending on fans to write your stories for you...

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The whole story is illogical and obvious fantasy but you get upset because the female lead doesnt follow the natural order of things and may not die again? Umm why watch the drama anyway if a dead woman came back after 5 years.. LOL..

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Haha! Yaaasss! Nice one!😂👏 This is a fantasy drama after all so all the extraordinary things becomes possible. Minjung fans thinks yuri should never live because it is against the law of nature but they tend to forget that k-dramas almost always doesn't follow the usual norm and that's what makes it special. If y'all ain't happy with the way things are going in k-dramas then just watch reality shows where supernatural factors aren't present.

I don't really care if the majority here likes minjung, as i've said this is kim taehee's drama and go bo gyeol is just the second lead. Don't expect the main lead to be selfless and sacrifice her own happiness for the sake of the second lead. Yuri has suffered enough and it's not a sin if she made a decision to stay alive. Don't get mad at her, she's not the villain here for heaven's sake.😒

It would be unfair if the main lead who has suffered more dies twice and the second lead gets a happy ending. If this happens then the whole story would be inaccurate. All the flashbacks about kanghwa's pain and his undying love for yuri over the years would just go to waste if he ends up with minjung. You see the writers convinced me that they're not a happy couple so it's hard to imagine that they could live normally if yuri dies. It would only be painful for minjung to stay with a man who is broken inside and has another woman in his heart. For kanghwa-minjung shippers would it be okay for you guys if Minjung stays in an unhappy marriage for the rest of her life? Would you want kanghwa to cry forever because he's still longing for yuri?

Y'all should realize that they keep showing flashbacks so that everyone recognizes the beautiful love that yuri and kanghwa had for each other. It is to reiterate that they had a happy marriage and their separation was not meant to be. That's the main reason why i still have high hopes that yuri could return to her original place as seowoo's mom and kanghwa's wife. Everything could return to it's original place because after all yuri's death was not meant to happen. Imagine how happy they would be as a family if everything went back to normal, i'm pretty sure minjung would also benefit from it. She'll probably return to her happy and bubbly self again and most likely she can find a husband who'll love her wholeheartedly-- (Pilseung). Well it is what i'm hoping for, at least in the k-drama world all my fantasies are still possible.😉

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That question: "What if?" is really dangerous. In my religion, we are taught to never ask what if. There's always a reason why things happen to us, good or bad. What matters is that we ask for forgiveness and learn. It's fate, it's out of our power. That includes death. Death waits for no man, woman or child. When it's time, it's time.
That ending was really trippy. I was enjoying the direction in which the story seems to flow, but now? What, she wants to stay? What will happen to Min Jung? I'm so conflicted.

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Ik there are a lot of Yuri supporters but I just feel that it's so wrong. Death is the only thing that's constant. The only "event" which has a whole probability of 1.
Yuri is a great character. So selfless. And I love her. I honestly do because she is just so lovable. But you can't say "she should stay because she's the one who's suffered the most!" If the person who's suffered the most is the one who has the right to stay then everyone will argue for themselves because everyone suffers. And you can't say this person has suffered more than the other because it's just so subjective. While the severity of a certain event may seem light to one person, it may the worst thing ever happened to someone else.
I mean what about the ghost family? Were their deaths not "unfair". I would argue they were even more so than Yu Ri's because in Yu Ri's case she had so many ppl left behind who would always remember and love her and she had ppl who would genuinely care for her daughter Seo Woo while Pil Seung' s (that's his name, right?) whole family dissappered in a second.
Every death is heart breaking. No matter if it leaves one person in its wake or a 1000 mourners.

This being established, I want to say that the dead are meant to be let go. You can argue that there's no moving on and you live with the memory of the person forever but life goes on. And you can't remain hung up on them. Initially I thought the show would deal with the grief (which they did but kinda over did it) and the process of moving on and learning to love again. Because there's nothing wrong in falling in love again and going through marriage again. Isn't it unfair to expect your spouse to always remain single, to never love anyone again!? Isn't it cruel of you? We are humans and we need companionship. Someone to live, laugh and share with again. Sadly however, it seems like the show is teaching the opposite of moving on. Moving on is so very important. What if Yu Ri wasn't given the chance to come to life again? What then? Should Gang Hwa still be living with the guilt of his wife's death. To always restrain himself from.being happy?
Also Skelly has already addressed the "She's the FL so ofc she should end up with Gang Hwa" argument so I'm going to say little about it. Even if she doesn't end up with Gang Hwa she'll still be the Female Lead. Every character has an arch, a story to follow and that should always come before "But she's the FL or a very big actress so this particular event shouldn't happen to her". A FL is a FL based on the screen time, and she will have the most of it so we are not rooting for Min Jeong because we feel so sorry for her and because she has suffered the "most" or because we want her to be the FL but because moving on is the right thing to do. Yu Ri will still be the FL even if MJ is the end game.

Some lines from "When the weather is fine" capture my feelings about her:

" Those who must leave, will leave...

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...And those left behind will do just that"

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Dude its just a drama. The fact that they brought a dead woman back to life after 5 years with almost no explanation, lets us know that its fantasy. Since its fantasy, anything is possible so no need to be super serious with she's already dead so stay dead. LOL, if she can come back then she can probably stay.

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@candilane lol yeahh I agreed. It's fantasy if they bring her to live after 5 ghostly years passed. Then it is possible to let her live again. Her family desperately want to meet her even it's just in their dreams but she never comes. And finally that wish come true. That could be one of the reason which makes her return.

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Even if it's 'just a drama,' and a fantasy drama at that, we still deserve to be given a story that makes sense, otherwise, you end up with zombie clams in the Forest. I don't care who ends up with who, really - I am a cynical and jaded old lady so I'm not much of a shipper - but I expect any story that I invest 16 hours in to follow it's own logical rules, whatever they may be. Even fantasy has rules.

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that is why a reset makes the most sense.. dont you think ?

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Thank you... And "she is the female lead" to me doesn't work, granted its because am new to this set rules of kdramas... But am here for the story and journey not who plays who and who has to win...

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Thanks for the recap.

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I feel for Min-jung. In episode 14 of Weather this week, Hae-won said "Trust is like glass. Once broken, the cracks will always be visible even if you glue the broken pieces back together".

Kang-hwa might do something to fix his mistake of not telling Min-jung the truth about Yuri, but I wonder if their relationship will ever be the same even after that. She was the second wife living in the shadow of the great first wife and to find out her husband lied to her in favor of Yuri must be devastating. I get why he didn't tell her in the beginning but she is his current wife. However crazy this situation is, she is his wife now and he should have told her earlier. Even her newfound friends were in on the betrayal which makes it that much more painful.

I didn't really like Yuri's resolve to stay but it makes sense I guess. I'm not in favor of her staying because I would prefer a story of getting a chance to say a proper goodbye to loved ones who didn't get that chance before over a story of a person who came back to life after five years. Whichever direction the drama takes, someone is going get hurt.

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Thank you pointing out the breach of trust issues with KangHwa’s behavior. I know folks are arguing his behavior is a sign of KW’s great love for Yuri. To me it’s just broken trust and lack of respect for MJ as a person. MJ is someone who tried to help KW during his toughest time. She deserves respect and honesty. Love for Yuri should not be used as an excuse for disrespectful behavior.

Yuri wanting to live makes sense to me. There was so much that was taken away unfairly from Yuri and her wanting to stay with the people she loves makes sense. The problem is the show took too long to get to this point. I wish they hadn’t kept dragging the whole KW thing so long that now every other character, including SeoWoo, is being given the short shrift.

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I agree.. they wasted too much time on gangwha struggle and it focused too much on mj yuri gangwha love triangle and all i can see are flashbacks that he struggled when yuri died. They could have added the the ghost stories and hope for character development and hope it would affect yuris decision but they wasted too much time on taking her place back as wife when in fact the major issue is taking her place as a mom because i cant see how will seowoo acknowledge her as a mom over mj in 49 days. I dont think a 5 year old can easily be convinced to choose her over mj. She can be a mom too because she is the biological mom but its not going to be quick. Some of the characters just disappeared like pilseungs family and there are only 2 episodes left.

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I've read the comments and I'm happy to see that some of you here finally decides to defend yuri. Thank you so much! It's definitely not a crime for the original mom and original wife to take her place back. And also like someone said here this is Kim Taehee's drama and Lee Kyuhyung's is the male lead. They are the original husband and wife and seowoo is their daughter. Go Bogyeol is your choice but sorry guys she's just the second lead here so you don't have the right to demand a happy ending just for her. The writers would surely prioritize the happiness of the main leads over her. Yes you pity her but yuri and ganghwa are the most pitiful here. They are the main couple so it's not surprising if they would end up together. It's very evident that ganghwa loves yuri more so why are you expecting him to choose MJ? Everyone so please get a hold of yourselves and stop demanding for yuri's death. Just accept that yuri and ganghwa are destined for each other and pray that MJ can also find a love like theirs.

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Original? So minjung is pirated or fake wife or mother? Minjung is not the biological mom but she is definitely not fake... this sounds like the moms gossiping in daycare..

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We dont know the ending of the 3 yet. I know gangwha loves the two women but it is not clear which one he is in love with or loves more. All i see are flashbacks even when they hugged in the staircase the psychiatrist was explaining he bottled his emotions and he did not process it and again all i see are flashbacks.. flashbacks that show he was broken and devastated which are all in the past that affected his present but then he still married minjung. For a guy who refuses to move on and with full of guilt, he still fell in love and still married minjung. They have something in the present that might be silent but maybe boring for some but strong enough to overcome a little bit of the guilt.. i remember a film here in the phil the title is starting over again. The current gf said to the ex gf "our love is quiet and boring but it was sure" that film was also full of flashbacks.. the main leads did not end together too. Although im not sure in this series because the phase of this series too slow.. everything is stuck in the past but maybe because it is the point of view yuri.. i also think leads are leads because the story is in their point of view and not necessary they will always get the happy ending..

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Lol!😂🤣😅 I had a good laugh with this comment.😝What's wrong about being called the original wife and original mom? It's Yuri's title- her original position. The first wife, the first mom. She married Ganghwa first and gave birth to Seowoo so what are we supposed to call her if she's not the original?🤔 And MJ is the second wife, second mom, it's her title and there's nothing to be ashamed about it. There's nothing really unusual with it. Even MJ and Ganghwa acknowledged Yuri as Seowoo's real mom in their conversation. MJ knew all along that it is Yuri's postion. Calling Yuri the original would not harm MJ and it is not an insult. Btw, are you one of those kindergarten moms who creates fuss about everything?😂 This isn't a big deal anyway so why do you waste your time on this?

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Biological mom will be the perfect term but if you want to call her original go ahead.. whatever suits you. i dont like the real mom term because i believe real mom is not just blood.. its love.. its not just giving birth but also loving and nurturing the kid. That is why you can be a mother or even a father by other ways.. it could be adoption, by marriage or other ways. im confident im not acting like the kindergardens mom making fuss about everything. I just know that being a mom is not just blood. We dont love our parents because we have the same blood and they dont love us because of it either. Its a comment page so expect a reaction.. anyone can reply...

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@Sakura Thanks a lot! It's funny how someone here totally missed my point. I just said that Yuri is the original but it doesn't mean that MJ is the fake wife or mother. Seowoo can have 2 moms, Yuri is the original and MJ will the second. The more love she receives, the better.

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@Saffie Yes you got it girl! That's what's on my mind too.. I'm getting tired of these hate comments about Yuri.. Like what? She's the female lead here so what's wrong if she decides to stay alive.. You're right she's the original wife and mom, it is her rightful position.. Oh Minjeong is just the second wife so if we're talking about who deserves Seowoo and Kanghwa more, then it's definitely Yuri.. But that doesn't mean that Minjeong is not worthy to be loved, she's deserves to be happy too but with a different family.. The situation here is just too complicated.. Do you think Kanghwa would marry Minjeong if Yuri didn't die? Kanghwa loves her because he chose to marry her but as you can all see, his love for her is different.. They're married but they're not happy, I think it's one of the main reasons why Minjeong wanted a divorce.. I can't really feel that they're a family because of everything is just awkward.. Kanghwa clearly hasn't moved on and his love for Yuri is still strong.. As for Minjeong even as mom, I feel she's still not comfortable around Seowoo because she knows deep in her heart that she's not her real mom.. She loves her like her own daughter but somehow she's still holding back.. I haven't seen her laughing or smiling around Seowoo as much as Yuri does..

If I were Kanghwa I would hold on to Yuri and never let her go.. Minjeong would understand if he'll to pursue his own happiness because she knows the pain he's dealing with while holding back with his feelings. It would make no sense to stay in an unhealthy marriage so the best decision is for them to divorce and find their own happiness.. It would also be best for Seowoo to grow up with her real parents.. Minjeong can still be a part of her life and she'll forever be her second mom..

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Um please go read the comments again. There's not a single hate comment directed at Yu Ri. She's a very much loved character. There are comments who support that she go up (or wherever) and there are comments who support that Yu Ri stay.

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She is a loveable character and no one hates her.😪

No one hates her but why are they (low-key) mad at her for staying alive and not going up?

No one hates her but why can't they see that she deserves to live and come back as Ganghwa's wife and Seowoo's mother? (They say it's okay to live but she'll only live as her parents' daughter, they say she can't reclaim her original place because it's Minjung's place now)

No one hates her but why is it so hard for them to accept that as the main lead she deserves a happy ending? (Read the comments of the people here)

No one hates her but why do they prefer Minjung to end up with Ganghwa? (even if it's obvious that they aren't happy as a couple. Everything is awkward between them. And most importantly, Ganghwa is still in love with Yuri)

No one hates her but why are they opposing her dream to live and become Seowoo's mother? (laws of nature- they say that dead people can't come back to life) but this is a korean fantasy drama so it's possible.

No one hates her but why are they thinking about Minjung's happiness over hers? (read the comments of the people here)

No one hates her but why are they pushing that Minjung is more pitiful than her despite of all her sufferings? (read the comments of the people here)

If they really love Yuri then why do most of us (Yuri supporters) feel that we are outnumbered. It's crazy how much defending we need to do here and there to justify that Yuri deserves a happy ending. If you don't like her then just admit it, she doesn't get enough sympathy from most of you anyway so it's acceptable. We don't hate Minjung, we just want a fair treatment for our girl and a little bit of support.

*my basis for this is the comment section here, the thread in soompi and the tweets in twitter.

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None of your questions (or scenarios) signify hate. Wanting someone to move on does come out of love. I'm not going to answer each of your questions individually because they have all been answered in previous comments. (Yes I've read the comments). Also, we know Yu Ri supporters dont hate Min Jeong and we never said so either. Lastly, I feel compelled to add that if anyone feels outnumbered it's us Min Jeong supporters (based on comments on this recap)😅.

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All of us have a right to express how we feel about a drama or a character. Like you are expressing your desire for Yu Ri to stay, the others are expressing their desire for Gang Hwa to move on. Let's just respect differing views after all that can make a fun drama watching experience.
Happy drama watching to you :)

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I find it odd that the most spirited show comments are "who deserves to be Seo-woo's mom and Kang's wife."
Yuri will always be Seo-woo's mother. But she is not Kang's wife because "until death do we part." Kang did not cheat on Yuri by marrying MJ. Ghost Yuri was in favor of Kang-MJ marriage. I think she still is . . . because she has only said she wanted to live, not take back Kang as his wife.
I think the MJ supporters are not against Yuri coming back to life, but the idea that Yuri is entitled to dictate whether MJ has forfeit her life and dreams because she is classified as the second wife and stepmom is the issue.
The k-drama trope that characters keep the truth hidden in order not to hurt someone always backfires because the cover-up is worse than the crime. In this series, not telling the whole truth in the beginning destroyed the budding HJ, MJ and Yuri friendship, and put Kang back into his deep post-trauma distress syndrome.

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I've been rewatching episodes to gear up for the finale and fully expect Yuri to move on as there are plenty of hints. Ultimately this drama seems to be about letting go of regret and loss, not a second chance at life which is what they seem to have been teasing. I would love for it to go full fantasy and allowing our heroine to have what she and her loved ones desire but maybe the 49 days is a lesson, a really painful and unfair lesson. I'm sure they'll pack in plenty of heartbreak in 2 episodes, get tissues ready!

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I think theyve forgotten the other ghosts.. I was kinda hoping we’d solve Pil Sang’s murder.

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Finally, the story is moving forward - these 2 episodes should have come earlier, because I agree that I can't see how they are going to wrap all of this up in just 2 episodes now. If they do, several of the storylines are going to be rushed through (ie, all the ghost-friends' stories), so not sure why were brought up initially anyways. And again, I still find it hard at this point to truly connect with Min-jung, because I can't truly believe that she ever had a happy marriage to begin with, because other than couple of framed photos and the daughter playing with the 2 parents as she swung between them, we were never given any glimpse into their life as a married couple (they must have been married for atleast 3 years before Yuri came back). Even if Kang-hwa had his challenges, it could have shown as being sporadic, during certain dates/anniversaries of the year or something. But given what we have been shown as audience, I am surprised that MJ didn't just shout at him "you can now live with your "real" wife again". Yes, she loves the little girl, but she would feel so dejected that she might not have believed she can fight to keep being her mother even. And if Yu-ri is able to live again by some divine decree, I do think Kang-hwa would/should get a divorce form MJ, and live with Yu-Ri again, and the daughter can have the 2 women involved in her life as mothers. Because, if Yu-ri lives, do you think MJ has any chance at all of having a happy married life with Kang-Hwa (she will be left wondering all the time whether he truly loves here anymore, or is staying married to her just out of obligation and love for his daughter- that's even worse than her condition now!)

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