A Piece of Your Mind: Episodes 7-8 Open Thread
by missvictrix
There’s a warmth that has taken over this show as it grows into a story about people going through the process of healing. This week, we get to see that healing extend to our heroine. She’s been busy serving as a vehicle for other people’s healing, but now she has earned some of her own.
EPISODES 7-8 WEECAP
So, I’m really bent out of shape about this 4-episode cut. If ever there was a network that I hoped would be able to properly market and stand behind a piece of more “experimental” drama-making it was tvN, but they have let me down grossly. It’s not that I don’t like the 12-episode length — I do, a lot! But not when it’s forced on a production that has been so clearly taking its time to tell a unique sort of story.
It’s a little bogus that tvN is saying the cut is for pacing purposes when it’s clear as day that it is about poor ratings. If only I could wave a flag and show tvN how many people are loving this interesting little show over here on Dramabeans! That being impossible, I do trust that this team can make some magic in the midst of these new constraints, and finish strong despite this episode-chopping rudeness. And with that rant out of the way, let’s talk about what happened in our story this week.
Ha Won and Seo-woo are growing closer at what feels like a rapid pace. We’ve seen them bond over Ji-soo, but it does feel like their relationship has become something separate, and something of its own. While Won’s tendency to fixate has me a tiny bit hesitant, A Piece of Your Mind is doing everything it can to distinguish the distant/snowy love he had for Ji-soo from the present/warm affection that’s growing for Seo-woo.
The idea of the physical and emotional “nearness” of a person is a beautiful metaphor here — and I love every minute of watching Won change as he is surrounded by this. He’s never had someone that he liked, or that liked him, around him in this capacity. So not only is Seo-woo and her warmth changing his outlook — and his sleeping habits — it’s changing the way he thinks about his work’s mission, too.
The mysterious ajumma Kim Min-jung plays an interesting and moving part in our story this week. She declares she’s done with her therapy, but her doctor insists that before she leaves she tries out the AI therapy program that’s been created by Won’s company. Previously we saw her doctor talking for hours to the AI (much like Won, Kim Hoon, and Seo-woo struggled previously) to get the device to reach its point of reaction. And when it does, it’s like magic.
Though this storyline felt a smidge accelerated (or is it me, looking for hints of acceleration?), it was really lovely. When Min-jung, who is suffering and repressing her grief, comes face to face with the “cheerful” AI Min-jung, she just cracks. The device does just what Won’s team was aiming for — it sheds a light where patients were unable to, and watching Min-jung exorcise her grief is moving, to say the least.
It also confirms something in Ha Won’s mind — the importance of warmth, closeness, touch — the feeling of someone’s hand when you need it most. Lately he’s been witnessing (and experiencing) this yearning, and I really like how our plots all come together to spark his thoughts. Ha Won really is a visionary, and I like watching him get inspired. (I also like him holding hands, and almost holding hands, with Seo-woo, but that’s another topic entirely.)
The other character in need of healing is, of course, Kang In-wook. His storyline has been troubling me since the start. I keep wanting to say that it feels stuck, and doesn’t advance much — but then it hit me that this very stuckness or paralysis is the perfect expression of his grief and his guilt. Kim Sung-kyu has so much intensity in his performance that In-wook has never felt dull. On the contrary, he’s compelling, but also troubling.
Watching Soon-ho warm up to him (crush alert!) is cute, but I worry where this sweet plant lady will land when this drama is over. In-wook pulling out the chair for Soon-ho to join him was the first time we have seen him actively engage with someone around him, and I loved that moment.
The most important move for In-wook this week, though, was the way he is using Seo-woo’s presence to jar his emotions as he performs. It’s as intriguing as it is troubling. Is it fear, anger, or dread that he’s calling up? The drama doesn’t name what In-wook is feeling, and instead lets us just see it in those eyes of his, which is far more powerful.
Even with a lot of compelling moments with our supporting characters, this week belonged very much to Seo-woo. Just as Ha Won is benefitting from her presence, Seo-woo is also benefiting from Won. Emotional support, it’s a beautiful thing.
It’s been a while since the death of Seo-woo’s parents, but she’s been unable to return to her hometown until now. This week we go on the pilgrimage with Seo-woo, and see her struggle and heartbreak as she visits her old home, and as promised, plays some music she has recorded for her parents. It’s especially lovely that she’s chosen the piece Ha Won pecked his way through. We know it’s more meaningful to her than the sumptuous playing that In-wook is capable of.
With so much forward motion for our characters this week, it’s easy to dismiss the obvious: there’s a shocking lack of Ji-soo. I’m pretty impressed with how the drama, which previously turned on the axis of Ji-soo, has all but moved on.
There were hints of her toward the end of this week’s episodes, when we see Seo-woo both drawn to the AI device again, and feeling guilty for, as she puts it, “stealing” the affection that once belonged to Ji-soo. We knew this was coming, so I’m curious how it will play out.
It doesn’t look like Ha Won is going to let go of Seo-woo anytime soon, but there’s a bit more growth that needs to happen before these two can truly move on. In the meantime, our 1% has growth to 25%, and I call that progress.
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1 liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
April 15, 2020 at 4:47 PM
I am so happy to see Seo-woo in the process of healing, with the emotional help from Won and Eun-joo. It was really beautiful to see two adults healing with the help of each other, and of course, healing other people around them in the process too. Won and Seo-woo's relationship clearly displays the importance of proximity, that is feeling the warmth of someone important to you when you need it the most, and it was brilliant to see Won use his vision to help other people in need, especially Min-jung whose story made me tear up (a lot) this week. I hope we see In-wook's growth and healing soon, because that might be an aspect of the show that is being sacrificed when it was decided for the show to be shortened. I don't want the pure sunshine Soon-ho to suffer from an unrequited love!
P.S. Chang-seob is trash and I am glad he and Eun-joo broke up because he doesn't deserve her love, and we get to see Eun-joo's fantastic new hairstyle! And I still have so many questions, but I am enjoying this show A LOT, so I'll just save them for later.
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Kafiyah Bello
April 15, 2020 at 5:31 PM
Totally agree about Chang Seob.
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
April 15, 2020 at 9:01 PM
I don't really want him to see him on my screen. I hope he moves out ASAP
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Eazal
April 16, 2020 at 9:06 AM
The only good thing about Chang Seob it that he may be the trigger to a more confident EunJoo who looks after herself more that he looks after others.
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Miky
April 15, 2020 at 5:55 PM
Glad Eun joo got rid of him early on rather than later,he doesn't deserve her at all..
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
April 15, 2020 at 9:03 PM
Eun-joo is such a gem of a person. She deserves so much more than that trash!
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ohduhree
April 15, 2020 at 6:49 PM
About Inwook--I hope so too! Soonho is more transparent than she thinks. I love that Inwook finally appreciated her when he said the piece wouldn't have been recorded if she didn't drag him out his car. Baby steps. I hope he finally comes into terms with his lost love, years of regret, and find healing like Hawon. I can probably accept an open ending for this two, with just enough hope that one day they'll be together.
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liar song #PuppyNotPuppyLeeJaeWookIsBack
April 15, 2020 at 9:06 PM
I would also like to see an open ending for In-wook and Soon-ho, as long as In-wook finally gets to tell Won what really happened with him and Won's mother, move on from his wife, and finally get to heal, like the other characters!
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ohduhree
April 26, 2020 at 12:39 AM
That would be nice. At least there is room for hope.. and it wouldn't feel rushed esp his relationship with Soonho. I'm sure he doesn't hate her. I feel like he needs someone like Soonho. The same way Seo Woo and Won clicked because of the kind of people they both are.
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2 Kat
April 15, 2020 at 4:48 PM
I am really enjoying this drama. And I’m absolutely gutted it has been cut, if the pace picks up after the way its been going, I don’t think it’ll be at the same great level, which is such a shame.
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3 Kasumi
April 15, 2020 at 4:58 PM
This show is amazing! I love the mood, the music, our main characters, the side characters, everything about the show. It makes me smile, cry, giggle...so many emotions.
I love the pacing and I’m hoping that the cut doesn’t negatively impact it. I love that we are in episode 8 and our leads held hands and made my heart explode. 💞
But what I really love about the show is the depiction of the characters emotional state and journey. For a show with AI and technology it’s all about emotions - love, loneliness, grief, guilt, healing, curiosity, uncertainty. It truly is an exploration of emotions and how it shapes people and dictates their actions. We know things related to JiSoo are not completely resolved till we and the characters see/hear InWook’s side of the story. I liked the way JiSoo made a come back through SeoWoo and not HaWon. Too often drama show characters not being able to go on. But life goes on and has to go on. HaWon moving on makes sense and doesn’t feel awkward. He had been in a 10 year stupor with JiSoo as his crutch. IMO, his interaction with SeoWoo and his involuntary interest in her woke him and he is continuing to grow and benefit from that.
The other thing that I really like about SeoWoo is that she doesn’t need HaWon to fight her battles. I loved that she went by herself to her hometown and I loved that HaWon gave her space but was there for her after. SeoWoo rocks!
I love how the past few episodes have ended with HaWon and SeoWoo looking at each other. I want them to just keep looking at each other 💗
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skelly
April 16, 2020 at 8:40 PM
I really liked that homecoming scene, too - it was beautiful how Ha Won was there, because he obviously was worried about her, but he stayed in the background, unobserved, so Seo Woo could deal with her emotions and resolve her goal properly, on her own. Only then, when she had done as she had dreamed, did he step into her line of sight and show that he was there for her. It was done perfectly.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
April 25, 2020 at 5:04 PM
He did the same thing with Min-jeong later - stood there watching and just stepped in to offer almost anonymous comfort when she needed it. Which is what he wanted to do with Jisoo, she just wouldn't let him for reasons that I guess will be explained later although we don't really need them to be. Not understanding Jisoo's behaviour is what puts us in the same boat as the characters.
But I digress. Hawon is such a loving person and more importantly he rarely needs to be loved back but is happy to receive by giving (I loved that scene too). In that he's a complete contrast to Inwook who demands reciprocity and gets upset when he doesn't get it.
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4 Kasumi
April 15, 2020 at 5:02 PM
Thank you to @missvictrix for the quick weecap and open thread. Hearing other beanies thoughts, especially how they love the show is how I fill my time waiting for the next episode 😊
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5 saturtledaisy
April 15, 2020 at 5:20 PM
I have a lot of things to say about this show and not enough words.
But can I just draw attention to Eunjoo and Seowoo's friendship? The show has been consistently emphasizing how important Eunjoo and Seowoo are to eachother. I love how even when they both are busy with their own lives and troubles, they never forget to worry about and care for the other when they need it. Seowoo taking the time to have lunch with Eunjoo instinctively and Eunjoo running to Seowoo's basement when she thought something was off... My heart is warm.
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pliplipli
April 17, 2020 at 7:35 AM
I'm so glad that we got to see more of them together this week.
eunjoo hugging seowoo's leg on her bed to wound her broken heart was especially cute lol
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6 Kafiyah Bello
April 15, 2020 at 5:31 PM
I am really sad about the episode cut too, I want to see where they could have taken it after the initial weirdness, it has settled in to a beautiful and warm rhythm.
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7 ohduhree
April 15, 2020 at 6:42 PM
Awww. Thank you for the recap. You were able to highlight most of our beautiful moments this week. I'm also sad about the episode cut because it happened just when I finally found this drama. I'm not regretting it though. I love this show to bits!
Anyways, one thing that struck me in particular is how Hawon also has developed more understanding in his work. Previously we've seen him become persistent in his work until he achieved what he wanted--AI Jisoo. I'm so glad the show didn't skip on the ethical part of the next AI project in which "touch" was the major point. Like the doctor said, it could be used wrongly by people. Hawon submitting to that was very meaningful. He now knows the value of physical closeness and touch. And he even held Minjung's hand. And the way he emphasized "briefly, affectionately" holding a hand could mean it's not just having a hand to hold during the hard time, but having that hand come from a person with understanding of brokenness and healing. Hawon went from initially testing his theory on touch to openly saying "let us do half-look. Together" and holding her hand. It's lovely.
Seowoo's trip to her hometown was also cathartic. Hawon had been there and he's done all that in the first episodes. I love that he chose to be there for her 'after'. Like how he expressed wanting to be the one person she can trust. Monday, come fast.
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ichiruki
April 15, 2020 at 9:43 PM
Thanks for pointing it out - Ha Won's decision not to pursue further his "phantom limb" AI project. It at least gave us an idea that Ha Won greatly considers the ethical limits of his work, which wasn't really quite shown in the initial episodes.
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Fly Colours
April 16, 2020 at 12:28 AM
Good point! Also... I think the show is telling us there's no need to create mindboggling technology to reproduce such a simple and natural human interaction
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8 Ira
April 15, 2020 at 7:03 PM
Just started this drama and it quickly take over my heart and soul. I am extremely heartbroken upon finding that this drama will be cut by 4, FOUR!, episodes. Damn you Tvn.
I wonder whether this drama will resonate more with Japanese audience that are I find more patient and open for experimental drama like this (is this why most korean adaptation of japanese drama tends to fail?). At times it felt very Jdrama like, especially the first two episodes. There's a bit of Murakami-esque flavor in those two episodes. It's can be confusing but oh so riveting. I like that this is not your standard kdrama story, but maybe this is why it does not resonate with general audience.
Looking at how Won and Seo Woo's relationship growing in the last few episodes, I've got a theory that what Won has for Jisoo, even before her death, is no longer unrequited love. Like he said, Jisoo was his comfort because she was the only constant in his life since he was very young. I think his first meeting with Seo Woo was the first time another person stir something in his heart. But because he's so fixated with Jisoo, he cannot really named his feelings for Seo Woo. Maybe he didnt realize that Seo Woo has buried herself in him even from the start? The way he gazes towards her is always interesting even from the first episodes. Like he finds her curious and warm even from the beginning. Also, the fact that he remembers his first meeting with Seo Woo as clear as day. Or maybe all of this is just me uselessly pontificating because I am currently obsessed with this soft drama and its OTP. But ugh...I hate you Tvn!!!!!!
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
April 15, 2020 at 7:13 PM
There's not a cat or a train or a sexualised teen anywhere... But if they want to throw in a weird physically improbable sex scene I'm not sure I'd mind...
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Ira
April 15, 2020 at 7:59 PM
Hahaha..so true. I always told people who has never read Murakami to be prepared for weird. He's such a kinky writer.
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Kasumi
April 15, 2020 at 8:07 PM
Hahahahahaha. This comment made my day!
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9 sally
April 15, 2020 at 7:54 PM
Can someone tell me what Ha-Won meant at the end of ep 8? What did he mean by "What you are thinking... it's exactly that."?
Also, I haven't enjoyed a k-drama in a very long time, I started watching many but always gave up halfway either because they started becoming boring or the plot completely deviates from what it originally started out to be. This drama, however, has absolutely got me hooked from episode 1. It starts out slow and in general it is quite slow-paced and there's a lot of looking and glancing at one another between the leads but I found all of these elements warm and of a nice change from many of those goofy, fast-paced dramas. Don't get me wrong, comedic dramas are fun but I am a bit tired of those pacings so I really do enjoy this drama that allows its plot to breathe and grow at a somewhat natural pace. I am devastated by the cut but at least this means there would be a more concise plot (hopefully).
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Kasumi
April 15, 2020 at 8:08 PM
I think he’s telling SeoWoo that he likes her...
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missvictrix
April 15, 2020 at 8:09 PM
To me, that ending line was Ha Won's subtle way of telling Seo-woo that he likes her.
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ohduhree
April 15, 2020 at 9:51 PM
I second the motion. *squee*
I like this kind of confession. And I like that they are of the same wavelength that Seo Woo probably know what he means.
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Hermione
April 15, 2020 at 8:47 PM
I think he's saying he wants to sleep in her basement room,Hahaha. But he's probably saying he likes her.
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meliyasha
April 15, 2020 at 9:28 PM
He said "I can hear what you are thinking.. It's exactly that"
I have two guesses: either Seo-woo thought "Is he asking me to sleep together?", or she thought "Is my 25% chance has finally became 100%?" That's what I got so far because I was too busy squealing 😂
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simplylot
April 15, 2020 at 11:43 PM
both. hahahaha
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hayaka
April 17, 2020 at 1:58 PM
Didn't he already suggest in episode 7 that they regularly sleep together? Of course, that was a suggestion to sleep together in the same house, not in the same bed. Is he now implying a different kind of "sleeping together"?
That would be weird to suggest to someone you never even kissed.
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hayaka
April 17, 2020 at 5:41 PM
My first sentence should have read "that they :::should::: regularly sleep together.
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parkchuna 🍉
April 15, 2020 at 9:47 PM
Haha in that scene I was thinking I’m dense like Seo Woo! Tell me in words what you’re thinking instead of saying “what I’m thinking is right”.
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ira
April 15, 2020 at 10:35 PM
Me also dense. But I assume that is also a low key confession by Ha Won given Seo Woo's adorable reactions. I want to squeeze these two under warm crinkly blanket. They are just too precious.
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10 seoul_searcher
April 15, 2020 at 8:08 PM
I really liked the theme of physical touch and proximity in episode 8 which is a basic human need we require as social creatures. It was nicely incorporated through Won's research for his device that is used to heal the other characters, as well as healing both him and Seo Woo as they progress in their own relationship. Every little step Won takes with his relationship with Seo Woo such as asking her to stay is so pure and romantic as they both adorably navigate their changing relationship from acquaintances to crushing on each other to hopefully love.
I'm also interested in Soon ho's interest in In Wook, which could surely end in tragedy as she is starting to catch feelings for him as he is quite irritable and sensitive from whatever pains he harbours in his life. Soon Ho could be the best person in his life as she's reluctant to let him stay in a slump and he could surely use her positive gardener energy in his dampened life.
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Eazal
April 16, 2020 at 9:37 AM
Also, I believe SoonHo is drawn to InWook more because she now thinks that his wife left him, and can relate to that feeling and that's the reason she wants to help him (also that she feels attracted to him).
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11 pickleddragon
April 15, 2020 at 9:51 PM
So, I feel like I'm missing something, but I'm not getting romantic vibes from this show so far. Maybe I'm just really dense. What I have sensed so far is: obsession (which I also identified as some form of stalking), infatuation, curiosity, and dependency. But I didn't come looking for romance, so that's fine (#NiceWeather has enough of that for now).
That said, with these two episodes, the show just got hit out of the park. I am hoping that it keeps this quality of editorial and directorial command for the rest of the episodes. I had a brief comment on my own fan wall, but can't help repeating myself slightly here.
Despite failing to tackle the issue of consent satisfactorily in the initial episodes, the discussion on phantom touch, sensory perception generally, and the need for real flesh-and-blood human interaction as a non-negotiable was so well done, I can't think of any better way to show it. (I'd have loved to see a similar essay on privacy and consent too, because I know this drama could have done it!). Some of it was emotional (Min-jung's story), some of it was pretentious (quantum mechanics?), but overall it has just been very very clever, and extremely thought-provoking.
At this stage, however, may I also add that I have zero interest in Soon-ho's and In-wook's storyline. Like they are plants or other accessories in the show, and I really don't notice them.
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12 parkchuna 🍉
April 15, 2020 at 9:58 PM
Finally we (or just me who’s slow?) figured out that this is a healing drama! I love to watch the progress of their relationship so much, it’s amazing how they’re supporting each other now. With the episode cuts, i just hope they have enough time to tell In Wook’s story cos he has a lot of guilt and misery going thru him right now. Can he and Ha Won just meet already?
On the AI side, i still don’t understand how, by recording the subject’s voice and then having another person talk to it could bring out the subject’s personality (and memories it seems) into the AI. Granted watching dramas always require a suspension of disbelief but this detail does bug me.
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Kasumi
April 16, 2020 at 4:53 AM
I think the idea is the AI shown in the show is a very very sophisticated (close to impossible) version of Alexa/Siri and the holy grail of AI. It posits that people’s personalities are a series of patterns that can be programmed. Then you give it a lot of very personal information about things that happen to that specific person and the program starts to extrapolate how the person would react and absorb the reaction into their personality. In essence who you are is a function of all the things that happened to you, your reaction to new things will be based on it, and the new things in turn will get absorbed into your personality. Programming a small amount of personality is sort of possible and is already done if you think of the few examples of Siri being sarcastic in her responses. However the amount of personal data that would be needed to create an AI JiSoo and AI MinJung will be MASSIVE and cannot be obtained from one person talking to a device for a few days. It also will not find out things that happened in real life without someone telling it. So for example, AI JiSoo won’t find out that JiSoo died unless someone tells it. The show has been fudging on that a little bit on how the AI’s find information of things that happened. I would say the AI in the show is aspirational like the starships in StarTrek.
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13 ichiruki
April 15, 2020 at 10:28 PM
Thank you for this weecap, @missvictrix.
Indeed, for a show that started to be about the use of AI and technology, it is the “human-ness” the characters that is moving it. This show gives so much warmth.
I felt the pacing rushed a bit when it starts to show Ha Won “moving on” from Ji Soo to Seo Woo quite quickly. However, when I think about it, Seo Woo has sparked Ha Won’s interest from the start. I feel like Ha Won was just unaware of this interest considering he was unhealthily fixating on Ji Soo. And when he finally allowed himself to be free of his love and regrets on Ji Soo, something just clicked, like there’s something in him that became unstuck and it brings with it all the very new feelings and experiences he never had with anyone, not even with Ji Soo. As he said, it’s all very new to him, and I am happy Seo Woo is on the other side of this. I like that the show used Seo Woo and Ha Won's terrible sleeping habits/patterns, and let us see them bond over a very normal human act like sleeping.
In Wook is probably one of the more frustrating characters in this show, but I feel this is intentionally done. For me, he portrays how exactly what a grieving person full of guilt looks like. Kim Sung Kyu is amazing in his portrayal of this. His progress is going to be slow, and Soon Ho’s presence in In Wook’s life is a way of showing that any kind of emotional support goes a long way, even when the progress of the person is painfully slow.
I have so much love for this show. It has been a while. I cheer on all the actors and production and I hope that they will be proud of this work despite it being cut down by 4 episodes.
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dramalover4ever
April 17, 2020 at 6:08 PM
As well as grieving Ji Soo, In Wook seems ashamed and guilty (necessarily or unnecessarily?) about what happened in Norway. He is afraid that it will be uncovered. He needs to know what Seo Woo knows, but at the same time he is finding comfort and relief in her presence (ironically like Ha Won).
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14 simplylot
April 15, 2020 at 11:41 PM
i really love this kdrama, i cant get enogh if each eps that i watched each ep over and over untill the nxt weeks eps comes out. i love the fact that the love story is far from the typical sweety-sweety type of story and i am really sad that it is shortened by 4eps.
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15 simplylot
April 16, 2020 at 12:03 AM
i lovr everything on this kdrama. the actors and thier chatacters. the story line which is far from the typical sweety-sweety type story. i cant get enough of each eps that i watched ut iver and over untill the following weeks eps comes out. im really sad that it is shortened by 4 eps.
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16 Fly Colours
April 16, 2020 at 12:14 AM
Am I the only one imagining that Eunjoo is pregnant because she's always tired and went for a check-up?
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Esther
April 16, 2020 at 12:53 AM
Oh God! That would be awful for her so I really hope not!!
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Fly Colours
April 16, 2020 at 1:02 AM
Is it that bad in Korean society? For me it's totally normal (*headscrach)
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parkchuna 🍉
April 16, 2020 at 5:12 AM
Typically not good in Asian culture but another reason for me is I don’t want her to have a baby with that immature scumbag and be stuck with him forever.
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Fly Colours
April 16, 2020 at 5:32 AM
Yup. In my mind, she could have the baby on her own and he, being the jerk he is, would be pretty much out of the picture. I mean, it would be terrible if she was too young, or had no support network. But, after all, she's a woman in her mid-thirties, with a house and an income, she's got Seowoo (and, possibly, Minjung) as supportive friends, and - judging by the way she treats her tenants- she's clearly inclined to have children... Being a single mom in her thirties just doesn't sound terrible at all to me, but I understand that her social and cultural context are vastly different from mine.
parkchuna 🍉
April 16, 2020 at 6:26 AM
all valid points and she could do it, but in a way she would still have ties with him because whether or not he's present, the biological ties with the kid exist and that's what i'd hate for her.
Esther
April 16, 2020 at 8:49 AM
This is my point exactly!
saturtledaisy
April 17, 2020 at 7:35 AM
I would hope not. Does she even want kids? Does she want kids alone? Does she want a kid that will remind her of him forever? Does she feel capable raising a kid ALONE? These are all worries I wish she wouldn't have to have. She deserves to NOT feel like she has to live as a mom for a while. I know it's innate in her personality to take care of everyone the way she does, but I want her to do other things for herself too and get more confident. She deserves better.
I also just really don't feel like watching a pregnancy plotline, but that's just personal preference.
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Healer’s
April 16, 2020 at 10:26 PM
That seems possible. I just wonder why she needed to empty her bowel the night before (as shown is a scene) for a pregnant confirmation check-up? That’s not common.
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Healer’s
April 17, 2020 at 7:40 AM
* in a scene
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Fly Colours
April 17, 2020 at 7:49 AM
I'm sorry I even put the pregnancy idea on the table, because that's probably even not what's going to happen in the drama, and we all have different opinions about this... I guess we just have to wait to see what they have in store for Eunjoo! Hopefully, she'll get rid of her looser boyfriend, seeing him munching her food was getting on my nerves - at least we can all agree on that he's a jerk 😋
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17 Fly Colours
April 16, 2020 at 12:19 AM
More ping pong scenes! I've found that funny, don't even know why... It's a great
and left-field depressionn recovery sign 😋
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parkchuna 🍉
April 16, 2020 at 6:29 AM
How about when he exercised and the staffs were so surprised, it's like he was an alien to them :)
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Kasumi
April 16, 2020 at 8:27 PM
I was distracted by his amazing from when doing push-ups. Got me wondering if Jung Hae In is super fit and if a shirtless to confirm that would be out of place! 🤣
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parkchuna 🍉
April 16, 2020 at 9:35 PM
He could go shirtless for a bit when changing into pyjamas. Dunno why he doesnt take off his coat even at home!
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Fly Colours
April 16, 2020 at 11:02 PM
In this drama they have a thing with coats: Seowoo was literally in his bed and under a blanket wearing her trenchcoat
Healer’s
April 16, 2020 at 10:28 PM
Hahaha he was super fit in While you were sleeping and Prison Playbook. He said in an interview that he prepares his body according to a role and he doesn’t have 6 packs anymore (after While you were sleeping) :D
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Kasumi
April 16, 2020 at 8:28 PM
*form not from
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18 Fly Colours
April 16, 2020 at 12:24 AM
Changseob, I hope you disappear from that house asap, you looser! Seowoo supporting Eunjoo is so sweet and true to life...
And Kim Minjung's scene was heartbreaking. I knew ahjumma was going to be a great character! 😍
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19 Fly Colours
April 16, 2020 at 12:35 AM
I'm intrigued about the doctor... The drama is hinting at a special connection between her and Minjung, very much the same way there was one between Seowoo and Jisoo. She seems to be interested in having a personal relationship with her -eating together, talking about herself, drinking beer in work hours, hee. I find her endearing, hope we get to find out more about her
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Fly Colours
April 16, 2020 at 12:36 AM
And the hamdhilding and Minjung looking for who it was, hahaha
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Kasumi
April 16, 2020 at 6:20 AM
I like the doctor too. She seems warm.
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Eazal
April 16, 2020 at 9:51 AM
I think this is because of MJ's daughter. If I'm not mistaken, it was the daughter who asked her to see her mum (but I can be mistaken, because I'm utterly confused by this show). But the reasons may only be profesional. I mean, MJ has not learned anything from all those sessions with her and she knows it, and she knows MJ needs help (that's why she chose her for the AI).
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20 Kurama
April 16, 2020 at 1:44 AM
I really love the use of AI in this drama! No perfect boyfriend for desperate women or weird eyeballs. I like how the technology is built to help people in a precise way not just as a robot that can do everything. I like to see the evolution of the AI from Ha Won, Ji Soo and now ajumma Kim Min-jung.
Ha Won's hand seems to have troubled both women in a different way :P I'm curious if after what he saw, he tried to make it or not.
If I really like the conversations between the leads and AI Ji Soo, I'm happy they move on but she still has a place in the story : the furniture, the music, the plant, etc.
Seo Woo and Ha Won's relationship is so lovely and warm. Ha Won's AI reacted to Seo Woo even if he doesn't know, it was like a coup de foudre. I'm happy that Ha Won can help Seo Woo and wants to do it because it could have been selfish from him if he was the only one to get something from this relationship. From 1% to 25%, I'm excited for the 100% !
It's sad to In-wook in this state, he needs so much help but he doesn't ask for it. He's so scared from the truth. I really think he's the one who needs the most HW but his forgiveness more than his technology. But for that, he needs to tell the truth about HW's mother.
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21 ava
April 16, 2020 at 3:07 AM
I am waiting to binge watch this drama, but now that was cut by 4 episodes, I am wondering if it is possible to get on a stream service all 16 episodes (where ratings are not that important and have more international views to help out). It would be fantastic if we could get the whole vision. 4 episodes is a lot of things to cut.
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22 Nanaotua
April 16, 2020 at 4:23 AM
This drama feels like a book I would want to read.
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Healer’s
April 16, 2020 at 10:36 PM
A Murakami book :)
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23 stpauligurl
April 16, 2020 at 5:39 AM
Thank you for the weecap so quickly! This show is all kinds of lovely and sweetness and heartbreaking for me. Like you I'm also disappointed it was cut by 4 episodes as it just gets better each week.
The theme of helping each other through grief, is actually a way to help yourself - was powerful. They are all reaching out to each other in love and starting to heal as a result.
When he told her to close her eyes in the car, then moved his hand close to her was interesting. Then when he explained it so she could anticipate the 'almost' touch was really well done!
The scene where Ming-jung opened up with her grief and let go and held Ha Won's hand was deeply and painfully shown. I was in tears right there with her.
I find myself wanting to replay each episode when I finish - just to feel everything all over again.
Yesterday I was working in the garden and listened to Ha Hyun Sang - singing "Slowly Fall" over and over again. It is so beautiful and evokes the feeling and mood of this show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGWoeMmTSQA
And oh yeah would Chang-seob please just move out and move on please?
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missvictrix
April 16, 2020 at 7:35 AM
Oh, I so agree about this song -- they use it so beautifully too.
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Eazal
April 16, 2020 at 9:55 AM
The song is just beautiful. I usually don't notice songs in dramas (I know it's hard to believe, but I can forget them the minute they're over), but not with this one!!
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Kurama
April 16, 2020 at 10:28 AM
I really like Ha Hyun Sang. In the show Super Band, his performances were great. He ended in the group Hoppippolla and I really liked their version of Wake Me Up. He sang Becoming the Wind for Mr Sunshine OST too.
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stpauligurl
April 16, 2020 at 10:39 AM
Ah I will look that up as I loved the OST for Mr Sunshine.
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Kasumi
April 16, 2020 at 8:29 PM
I just found the instrumental version on iTunes and it is even more beautiful.
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24 reighness
April 16, 2020 at 9:10 AM
I love this drama to bits.
I bawled when Seo-woo finally returns to her hometown. And I really appreciate that although Ha-won followed her, he still gave her space to deal with her trauma. The ost playing during this whole scene is just beautiful.
I cracked up the part where Ha-won sent his selfies to Seo-woo. And Seo-woo telling Eun-joo that she doesn't have a picture of Ha-won after seeing the selfies. lol.
I like that Seo-woo still managed to remain level-headed when Ha-won is being all thoughtful (and confusing). I mean, maybe am not really complaining, because Ha-won being thoughtful is all kind of cute and swoony. But goodness boy, you know Seo-woo likes you, so please tone it down a little. I love that Seo-woo still managed to think that she is "just helping" Ha-won, and not to "create a drama" about Ha-won's feelings because I really think that they are moving too fast. Although what can you do when you've been cut 4 episodes down.
The Minjung scene is also beautifully done.
I am so invested in Ha-won and Seo-woo's journey, that I will follow then wherever, whenever.
Oh, and yeah, Chang-seob can go eff himself (I seriously hate him at this point).
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pliplipli
April 17, 2020 at 7:46 AM
the selfie sequence was hilarious. from hawon asking someone to take his photos to seowoo saying she didn't have any photos right after receiving some of them lol (unrealistic because everybody would love to flex receiving any type of selfie from someone with jung haein's face lol)
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Fly Colours
April 17, 2020 at 7:54 AM
His face on the selfies, so cute! 😂
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hayaka
April 17, 2020 at 1:51 PM
Yeah, I also didn't understand Seo-woo denying she had any photos, unless she thought they didn't do justice to how handsome he is.
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25 Eazal
April 16, 2020 at 10:01 AM
I love the way our leads are helping each other heal, and how that percentage is (quickly) growing.
I love SW and EJ friendship.
I hate ChangSeung, who's leaving EJ because now he's popular and he wasn't in college.
I'm as distressed as InWook is whenever he is on screen.
I love MJ and I felt her pain when she hold Won's hand.
I love how AI is dealt in this show.
I love the show, but I still find it confusing: the not talking about the dead wife, the obsession SW has with JiSoo (why did she steal the device? why she turned away when Won called him as if she was betraying JiSoo?)...
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26 JustMe
April 16, 2020 at 10:04 AM
Did anyone understand why she stole the Jisoo device ? I thought she'd at least steal the Ha Won device IF SHE WERE to steal something. It felt off. And then dropped in and felt guilty?
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hayaka
April 16, 2020 at 8:09 PM
I think she explained why she stole it when she said she would never forget Ji-soo, even if Ha-won did. Granted, it's not really Ji-soo, it's an AI device, but it is the closest thing Seo-woo has to the real woman.
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Kasumi
April 16, 2020 at 8:40 PM
I think she’s feeling like she is coming between HaWon and JiSoo. Especially after hearing Soon Ho talking about how rare it is for someone like HaWon who seemed to be steadfast in his love for JiSoo. Plus SeoWoo genuinely liked JiSoo, considers her a friend (as she told InWook) and misses her. SeoWoo was the last person JiSoo spoke to so there is a lot of history there. So she took the AI device because JiSoo is her friend. She got upset because now that she has a growing suspicion that HaWon likes her back she felt like she was betraying a friend. Not rational but understandable. It’s like dating your friend’s ex!
IMO, HaWon has not been in love with JiSoo for a while. She was a habit and not necessarily a good one. His growing interest in SeoWoo seems pretty normal to me. He found someone that sparked his interest and then circumstances made them interact and help each other. The whole sequence in episode 7 where SeoWoo keeps running out of the studio and they look at each other just smiling is sweet, warm, and full of affection. Also a beautiful illustration of two people falling in love. I have too many emotions for this show!
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reighness
April 17, 2020 at 4:53 AM
Yes, that's it. I didn't understand why Seo-woo feels like she is "stealing" Ha-won from Ji-soo, when Ji-soo has been married to In-wook for a long time and obviously no longer with Ha-won for a long time as well. But it does feel like you are dating your friend's ex. And yeah, that would make me feel all uncomfortable as well.
I also agree that Ji-soo has become a habit for Ha-won. I think he hasn't been "in-love" with her for a long time but he's so used to her "presence" that he thinks he still loves her.
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pliplipli
April 17, 2020 at 7:51 AM
the studio/stair sequence is so when you fall in love with someone... you might have obligations and work to do, but you just want to see them a little bit more. (but I was slightly anxious inwook would leave the studio, see hawon and find out who he is)
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saturtledaisy
April 17, 2020 at 7:31 AM
I don't think she realize why she stole it either. I think she just felt bad leaving it in there, forgotten in a drawer. While Hawon was moving on from her. I guess she felt guilty for the dead? It's not just about the romantic love that Hawon felt for Jisoo, which Jisoo obviously didnt need, but about replacing Jisoo in his life.
I'd be sad seeing AI Jisoo in that drawer too. Seowoo also needs time to heal from hearing a friend die. AI Jisoo is the last piece they have of Jisoo. While Hawon and Seowoo were obviously affected differently, it isn't weird for Seowoo to want to hang on to a piece of Jisoo, and feel guilty for decreasing the space Jisoo takes up in this world (even after her death).
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Kasumi
April 17, 2020 at 10:52 AM
I’m glad that AI JiSoo is not gone. I hope InWook can get some help with AI JiSoo
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
April 25, 2020 at 4:50 PM
She feels like Jisoo has been abandoned and, as we've seen, she'll run to anyone she feels needs her. It's not a coincidence that this happened in the episode where she kept running away from everyone to go help her Unni after she was dumped. She knows what it's like to completely alone and unloved and unfortunately as an avatar of Jisoo the AI feels like the last piece of her that has been thrown away.
It's also important that her parents' memorial was in this episode too. The only thing that keeps the dead in this world is our memory of them and she knows that more than anybody.
It would actually be easier for her to fall for Hawon if Jisoo was still alive. Because Hawon's feelings for Jisoo seem like the only tether to keep a part of Jisoo in the world. Without them, she's completely gone and forgotten. Just like her parents would be if she forgot them.
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27 WannaBeMyMy
April 16, 2020 at 1:27 PM
Thanks for the weecap.
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28 Healer’s
April 16, 2020 at 10:46 PM
The 1% of Seo-woo’s chance makes me think of the 1% something viewership rating 😅 If the latter had increased as quickly as the former, we’d still have 16 episodes 😂
I like this show very much.
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29 Rumi~
April 17, 2020 at 3:49 AM
Lovely read. I'll go & read your previous recaps now.
I'm loving this show despite my initial frustrations with it. I love it even when I'm screaming at the screen for Seo Woo to let Jisoo go
*Let It Gooooooo, Let It Go.... Can't bring back dead anymore.... *
Cue sob 😭 about it being cut to 12. They didn't dare cut stupid shows like Thaw Me but are going to use the ✂ on APOYM? 😢😡🤬😫
I loved how the 1% grew to 25%. He wa so cute when he was jealous... I'm kinda hoping to see Ha Won's office colleagues interaction with SW.
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30 pliplipli
April 17, 2020 at 7:32 AM
eunjoo is everything and she deserves all good things. let that useless man go!
CSB and JHI are SO GOOD for this drama. it's a shame they're not being recognized with ratings, but I'm so happy we're all seeing this. his stares say everything he needs to say, but they're not always the same. her smiles can bright the whole world every single time. I'm so in love with these two as individuals and a couple.
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31 Sheila
April 17, 2020 at 7:42 AM
Please can anyone help me out with a couple of things I don’t get. Does Ha Won know that JiSoo’s husband is InWook? I find it strange that it’s never brought up or mentioned by anyone. And does HaWon know yet that Seo-Woo has taken the A1 device?
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pliplipli
April 17, 2020 at 7:57 AM
I don't think hawon ever knew jisoo's husband name. just that he was someone she met after hawon left oslo? meanwhile inwook only know hawon's name, but doesn't know his face? (and they never really met face to face). this week episodes made them run around each other and I was bracing myself for the moment when they all realize how entangled their lives are - and how this will probably bring a lot of pain for everyone involved).
tldr: I think they will know who each other is the moment they're introduced to each other. it just didn't happen yet.
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hayaka
April 17, 2020 at 9:59 AM
I don't think Ha-won knows Seo-woo took the device. He wouldn't know that she was in the apartment he shares with Soon-ho (when she took it), and her body shielded it from his view when she picked it up off the street. Also, Ha-won would have probably raised the issue with Seo-woo by now if he had known she took it. I expect that scene is coming. It probably won't be pleasant. :(
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32 hayaka
April 17, 2020 at 10:41 AM
I'm looking forward to when Seo-woo's relationship with Ha-won is on a more equal footing, and she doesn't have to indulge his every whim. That meeting on the bridge in the middle of her work day was a bit much, I thought.
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Kasumi
April 17, 2020 at 11:07 AM
I noticed that too but not with the bridge encounter but when he called her to say that he slept well when she was with him and asked if she can come. He does seem to not consider timing but that could be because as one of the founders of his firm and someone who had sort of unstructured lifestyle he doesn’t always do things at the times other people do. Based on his current lifestyle I don’t think he’s had to consider a lot of what folks with regular jobs automatically consider. He did back off when she explained that she had work. I was a little disappointed SeoWoo ran off in the middle of a work session but because I like her so much and the guys she likes just told her he misses her (and it is a kdrama) I’m going to forget that lapse of judgement.
With the meeting at the bridge I didn’t feel it was her reacting to his whim. He made a request and she fulfilled it. he specifically explains how they meet half way and the whole idea was to meet half way for a brief encounter that will emotionally energize both parties.
IMO, the reason HaWon reacts positively to SeoWoo is because they equals. She was at a slight disadvantage when it seemed like she had a one sided crush but I don’t think it was ever completely one sided.
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hayaka
April 17, 2020 at 1:13 PM
"He made a request and she fulfilled it."
Well, to me she fulfilled the request because she lacked the confidence to say no. She never smiled during the bridge encounter, and never looked comfortable. In fact, she seemed to find his behavior rather odd. If Ha-won had wanted to see her, he could have just driven to the studio and met her outside, instead of making her walk a 20 minute round trip.
Again, I hope that when Seo-woo feels more self-assured about the relationship, she will tell him to go pound sand when he makes these rather inconsiderate requests of her time.
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hayaka
April 17, 2020 at 1:18 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love these two together, and I love where the story is going, but he does take advantage of her sometimes in a way that is not entirely healthy.
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Kasumi
April 17, 2020 at 4:08 PM
I think I phrased it more contractually than what I saw happening. I was thinking about my phrasing the minute I posted it and hoping no one caught it but I should have know that we have very attentive beanies 🤣
To me her uncomfortableness is tied to her growing suspicion that HaWon likes her and the feelings of guilt/uneasiness she’s been having since her conversation with Soon Ho about HaWon moving on. She was comfortable with her one-sided crush and her role of helping him. She probably thought of getting to hang out with him as a plus for her. But since she found out that he changed the home system’s name from JiSoo (which to her is a sure sign of moving on since that was also the thing that made SeoWoo have the “come to Jesus” conversation about the need to let go with HaWon) and her conversation with SoonHo (both at the apartment and later in the studio) she’s had a growing suspicion that he likes her. So to me her hesitancy/uncomfortableness is her trying to get used to the new reality. SeoWoo has never had problems calling HaWon out or lacked confidence in her interactions with him, case in point her rubbing him about her chances growing to 25%. I think she’s just in shock (and the jumbled feelings associated with JiSoo) when her chances suddenly grew to 100%
As I write this, I’m very aware that I’m ascribing thoughts and emotions to a fictional character! 🤣
Kasumi
April 17, 2020 at 4:34 PM
I definitely do see your point that his actions can be seen as him taking advantage of her feelings for him. Especially the whole thing about her staying with him so he can work on letting go JiSoo go at the end of episode 6. As much as I swooned and squealed I definitely side-eyed it and had a lot of trepidation about it. But having re-watched most of the episodes at least twice I see that HaWon has always been interested in SeoWoo even before JiSoo died. So he really doesn’t need SeoWoo liking him to move on.
Sheila
April 17, 2020 at 3:09 PM
At that first flush of excitement when you are falling in love, you would do anything to see that person, even just for a few minutes, which SeoWoo did by going to the bridge. She didn’t understand the purpose of the hand holding - who would in this day and age, but HaWon is not like most people, she just wants to be there for him. His approach re bridge scene was clumsy and showed lack of experience but he wouldn’t know that. Their meeting at the studio stairs where they looked at each other with huge smiles was so natural and spontaneous, very heart warming for both of them.
I wonder if the scene where she picked up the device and then ran off to get in the taxi might make him think, hang on, I don’t want to lose her. Wishful thinking I guess on my part. I’m dreading HW finding out she took the device, and InWook potentially hearing it at the studio. Yikes!
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33 lexyk
April 18, 2020 at 4:36 AM
This drama slowly creeped up to become my weekly fave. I appreciate that we are able see the process of healing from our characters. And I also like the progress of our characters towards mutual affection, emotional attachment. Kang In Wook on the other hand, I have a hard time with his character. I mean I understand that he is going through grief. But I just want the show to give us more and just tell us what exactly happened. Instead of empathizing with him, I am just annoyed at his rudeness and moodiness. Finally Eun Joo and her ex-boyfriend: this storyline feels just...out of place. And the guy's character, just doesnt do it for me. Kuddos to Chae Soo Bin and Jung Hae In who both are both doing such a great job with the characters.
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34 hayaka
April 22, 2020 at 3:17 PM
No open thread for episodes 9 and 10?
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35 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
April 25, 2020 at 4:43 PM
These two episodes just highlighted how sad it is that this of all the current airing dramas got cut.
These episodes were beautiful and poignant and so finely written they felt like art.
Two things really struck me. The first was Ha-won's speech about how he was a great pianist despite never learning to play because he spent his life watching. And then the scene where we (and he) realise he can't play at all because you can't learn to do life by just watching. And that completely sums up how he's lived until now. But then - the best bit - we cut later to a scene with him practicing the piano. Because he's finally decided to live life rather than just observe it and that takes work.
Also Ha-won is basically me so I can't help but cheer him on.
The second scene that resonated with me was the scene with Inwook and the eucalyptus where she says that she was a friend to Jisoo but doesn't know if Jisoo was her friend because you can only see a person from the outside and now she'll never know what she was thinking. And ultimately that's what death does. Even if you never see a person, the knowledge that they're in the universe is comforting. It's potential, the potential that at some point you will be able to see them again and even know what they're thinking. Death is the loss of that potential.
The writing in this show is like a bell tolling suddenly. The silence of the ordinary and then a sudden resonance. It's some of the most beautiful writing I've seen. And I'm just so sad that nobody is watching it and that it got cut.
That scene where you suddenly realise that all of Min-jung's food SNS' are her pretending she's eating with her dead daughter actually broke me a little. I even cried and as everyone knows I'm basically a robot with a heart of rock.
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