The Crowned Clown: Episode 15
by LollyPip
Things are looking very bad for our clown king, who finds himself in a very dangerous position. For the first time, he’s forced to rely on his own judgment, when the least mistake could cost the lives of everyone he’s grown to care about.
EPISODE 15 RECAP
Moo-young learns that Prince Jin-pyung has forced his way into the city with his army and orders the palace gates closed. When he sees this, Prince Jin-pyung heads to the West Palace, where the Queen Dowager now lives.
Ha Sun and So-woon are reading stories in the library, and after one story, So-woon asks Ha Sun what he’d do if he were the protagonist — choose his son, or his loyal servant. Before he can answer, Eunuch Jo runs in yelling that Prince Jin-pyung has led an army into the capital.
Moo-young reports to Ha Sun that he saw the torches moving towards the West Palace, and that Minister Lee isn’t in the palace but he sent a message. It says that the letter to General Nurhachi was stolen and Minister Lee promises to get it back, and he advises Ha Sun to pretend he knows nothing about it.
Moo-young suggests they get help from General Kang, who handles national defense with Minister Lee, and So-woon recommends asking General Kim, her father’s friend, for aid. Moo-young says that it will take four days for the generals and their soldiers to arrive, and that they don’t really have enough soldiers to protect the palace for that long, but that they’ll do their best.
Eunuch Jo even offers to have the eunuchs help guard the palace, and So-woon volunteers to take care of feeding everyone. Ha Sun thanks them gratefully, then he burns Minister Lee’s letter.
The Queen Dowager hears the soldiers outside and fears that the king’s people are there to kill her. She’s relieved instead to see Prince Jin-pyung, then grows angry again when Minister Shin enters and bows to her. She tells Minister Shin that he’s crazy, but he says he has a gift for her. He leads her outside, where he has Minister Lee bound and on his knees.
She tells Minister Lee that this serves him right, and now she gets to have her revenge for him killing her son. Even Prince Jin-pyung and Minister Shin look shaken by that truth. She says that Minister Lee fooled Yi Heon, then made him kill his brother and steal the throne, and she demands he be deposed as a traitor.
Minister Lee bursts out laughing, saying that even if the Queen Dowager wants the king gone, removing him without justification is treason, and she’ll be blamed for it. He says she can call it revenge on him, but she’ll really be self-destructing.
Prince Jin-pyung says that they have evidence that the king has secret ties with Aisin Gurun, and tells Minister Shin to show the Queen Dowager the letter. But Minister Shin says he doesn’t have it, and he won’t say where it is in front of Minister Lee.
Minister Lee takes advantage of Prince Jin-pyung’s anger to remind him that Minister Shin killed his father and brother, and asks if he’s really foolish enough to side with him. He taunts Prince Jin-pyung until he pulls his sword and threatens to cut out Minister Lee’s tongue. Even then, he keeps chuckling that Prince Jin-pyung is like a worm that wants to be a dragon, but the Queen Dowager stops Prince Jin-pyung from killing him on the spot.
She says that Minister Lee is trying to get them to kill him so that the king will never relent. Still in a rage, Prince Jin-pyung says that if she gives the order, he’ll charge into the palace right now, kill the king, and bring her the royal seal. But the Queen Dowager says that she can’t support him as the leader of a band of traitors — this will only work if it’s a justified restoration and they make the king surrender.
Later, Minister Shin tells Prince Jin-pyung that he’ll tell him where the king’s letter is once he’s in the palace preparing to make the king surrender. He warns Prince Jin-pyung that they only have four days before the help arrives that Ha Sun surely requested, so they have no time to fight amongst themselves. He promises to bring Prince Jin-pyung the royal seal within four days, because he has no other choice.
Prince Jin-pyung stalks away, and a court lady takes Minister Shin to see the Queen Dowager again. She asks if he really put up the posters to insult the king, and he admits that he put them up, but the part about the king being a clown is true. She asks where Yi Heon is, and Minister Shin doesn’t know, but he can’t imagine him allowing a clown to take his place if he were alive.
The Queen Dowager wishes the king weren’t dead so she could make him stand next to his lookalike – it would be enough to depose him. Minister Shin asks for full authority and he’ll make sure to get the king’s surrender within four days, and in return, she promises to give him a say in whoever she chooses to be the next king — but only if he also delivers her the royal seal, and the heads of Ha Sun and So-woon.
Concubine Hwa-dang worries over what to do about the letter Minister Shin entrusted her with – keep it as her uncle said, or show it to the king. Her lady thinks she should obey her uncle, and Hwa-dang says that the king doesn’t like her anyway, but then, Minister Shin did have her poisoned.
Ha Sun is preoccupied as So-woon helps him dress, so she tells him that Minister Lee is probably just late because he’s working on stopping the rebels. But Ho-geol comes to the palace with a letter from Minister Shin that says that if Ha Sun opens the palace gates and approves of Minister Lee’s beheading, Minister Shin will end the rebellion.
Ho-geol bursts into tears and drops to the ground to beg Ha Sun to save Minister Lee, especially since he was finally getting to create the world he’d envisioned. Eunuch Jo tells Ho-geol that they all want to save Minister Lee, and Moo-young urges Ha Sun to hang in there for four days until the army arrives.
When So-woon hears about the letter, she finds Ha Sun where he’s thinking, to see if he’s okay. He says honestly that he doesn’t know, because this is the first time Minister Lee wasn’t there to advise him. She reminds him of the question he didn’t get to answer of whether he’d save his child or his loyal servant, and he replies, in true Ha Sun fashion, that he wouldn’t give up either.
She’s not surprised by his answer, knowing that even when there seems to be no solution, he always finds one. She says she believes he’ll find the right answer this time, too.
Hwa-dang visits Ha Sun in private, where she apologizes for her uncle’s treasonous activities. She says she’ll leave the palace if he wishes, but he asks what she wants to do, and she says she wants to stay. She cries in gratitude when he says she may stay since she’s done nothing wrong, and she tells him about the letter Minister Shin told her to keep safe. He knows right away which letter it is and sends her to retrieve it immediately.
In the meantime, Ha Sun gives Moo-young a letter for Prince Jin-pyung and Minister Shin, telling them to meet with him in the morning. Moo-young is concerned about letting them inside the palace, if they even agree, but Ha Sun is confident they’ll come since he told them to bring Minister Lee with them.
Prince Jin-pyung thinks that Ha Sun is stalling for time, but Minister Shin says they need to comply anyway. It makes Prince Jin-pyung uneasy to think about going into the palace without their own guards and surrounded by the king’s, but Minister Shin says that the incriminating letter is in the palace, and they need it to depose him.
Minister Shin asks Moo-young if they can bring their own soldiers, but Ha Sun anticipated this and plans to allow them only ten soldiers, since the entire court will be there. Minister Shin counters that the king can also only bring ten soldiers, and the agreement is made.
Moo-young asks Ha Sun how he knew what the other side would ask for, and Ha Sun says that they want inside the palace because the proof they need is there. But he assures Moo-young that they won’t get it, though he’s worried because Hwa-dang hasn’t returned yet.
Unfortunately, Hwa-dang is found moments later in her rooms, stabbed to death. Ha Sun orders Moo-young to search the palace for Hwa-dang’s murderer, starting with her court ladies, and sends Eunuch Jo to look for a letter stamped with the royal seal.
He waits nervously, but Eunuch Jo is unable to find a letter. Moo-young suspects one of Hwa-dang’s ladies, Court Lady Jo, of the murder, so Ha Sun tells him to interrogate her and find the letter before the assembly in the morning.
Minister Shin explains to a furious Queen Dowager that this assembly is part of his plan, but she wants to see Ha Sun this instant. She tells Minister Shin to send him a message to come to her quarters immediately, and Ha Sun agrees to go, against Eunuch Jo’s advice. Moo-young offers to escort him, and Ha Sun promises mother-hen Eunuch Jo he’ll return safely.
When Ha Sun arrives at the Queen Dowager’s courtyard, the first thing she does is to call him a lowly clown and order him to bow to her. Ha Sun says that he doesn’t have to, since she’s been deposed. She scoffs that he’s gone crazy with power, but Ha Sun ignores her and asks if Minister Lee is safe.
She says that she’s not planning to kill Minister Lee until she gets revenge for him killing the king, and it’s Ha Sun’s turn to laugh that she almost sounds like she cared for Yi Heon. She admits that she’d wanted Yi Heon dead for a long time, but at least he was the legitimate king.
Ha Sun tells her to be honest — she’s doing all this to get revenge for her son’s death, and to gain control of the throne. The Queen Dowager says that as soon as Minister Lee is dead, Ha Sun will be next, but she offers him a deal… report Minister Lee, and she’ll forgive his only crime of following Minister Lee’s orders.
He growls that she has no right to judge or forgive him, so she threatens to tell everyone that he’s just a clown. Ha Sun asks how she’ll prove it, or get people to believe her when she’s been branded a traitor.
She goes for the throat, threatening to reveal how the queen treats a clown as her husband and make history see her as an adulterer. Ha Sun lunges at her, but he stops and just looms over her as he says that if she does, he’ll make her pay for every tear So-woon cries.
The Queen Dowager asks if Ha Sun isn’t afraid of the heavens, but Ha Sun retorts that the heavens decide what’s lowly or not, and that it’s about what’s in your heart, not your status. He says she doesn’t know what’s truly valuable, and asks if she’s not ashamed of herself — but then, he adds, her blood is all she has to be proud of.
Minister Shin visits Minister Lee and offers to plead with the Queen Dowager to spare Minister Lee’s life, if he’ll talk Ha Sun into surrendering. He asks if Minister Lee is willing to give his life for a lowly, fake king, but Minister Lee asks what he means by lowly and fake, as the things Ha Sun has done for the nation and its people are far from lowly, which makes it absurd to call him fake.
Minister Shin calls that “dog shit,” and Minister Lee agrees that people like him and Prince Jin-pyung, who only care about themselves, wouldn’t understand. Minister Shin tells Minister Lee that Ha Sun wants him at the assembly tomorrow, and Minister Lee is worried, but he tells Minister Shin that the more he threatens Ha Sun, the stronger he’ll become.
A nobleman arrives at the gates to see the Queen Dowager, but Prince Jin-pyung snarls at him to leave unless he wants to die. Prince Jin-pyung tells the Queen Dowager that he knows she’s meeting with other members of the royal family, but the Queen Dowager lies that she’s never considered anyone else to replace the king.
So-woon finds Ha Sun outside brooding in the cold, and he admits that he’s worried about tomorrow. So-woon says that she should be offering him support, but she’s afraid something will happen to him. He promises her that nothing will happen, and says that, like the intertwined trees, they can lean on each other.
Before the assembly, Moo-young tells Ha Sun he couldn’t get the court lady to confess. Eunuch Jo urges Ha Sun to postpone the assembly, but he says that it has to be today if they’re to save Minister Lee. The good news is that the soldiers Ha Sun requested will be at the capital tomorrow.
On their way to the assembly, Minister Lee suddenly stops and tells Minister Shin that he thought about his proposal, and he wants to speak to the king. Prince Jin-pyung doesn’t want to leave them alone together, so Minister Lee says he can join them.
The three enter Ha Sun’s chambers, and Minister Lee stays quiet while Ha Sun, Minister Shin, and Prince Jin-pyung exchange loaded insults. When he gets a chance to speak, he reminds Ha Sun of the two ways to survive in the palace (crush your enemies, or ignore them), and he tells Ha Sun that today, he should remember the second one.
He tells Ha Sun to make the nation and its people his priority, and discard everything else, even him. Ha Sun objects, saying that it would be like the man in the story discarding his loyal servant. Minister Lee is honored to be compared to such an honorable person, and he and Ha Sun look at each other with tears in their eyes, everything they can’t say out loud written all over their faces.
Minister Lee says to Ha Sun, “Your Majesty, I was honored to be able to serve you. I have no regrets.” Ha Sun insists that he’ll live for many more years, and Minister Lee says that’s what he wanted to say: “For this nation and its people, you must stay strong for years to come and protect the throne.”
Prince Jin-pyung ends the conversation and tells Ha Sun to start the assembly. Minister Lee kneels in the courtyard in front of the court, looking up at Ha Sun serenely as Ha Sun struggles to control his emotions. He insists on Minister Lee being untied, saying that in his mind, Prince Jin-pyung and Minister Shin are more treasonous, and Minister Lee hasn’t been convicted of anything.
Minister Shin calls for the proof of Minister Lee’s guilt, and one of Hwa-dang’s court ladies scurries out to give him the letter. He reads it out loud, where it says that Joseon will not fight Aisin Gurun or send soldiers to Ming.
Prince Jin-pyung orders Minister Lee to confess his crimes, but he says he has nothing to confess because he’s not ashamed of his actions, and that it’s the two of them who should be ashamed. He asks what’s wrong with making peace when it protects their own nation. Minister Shin asks Ha Sun if he really didn’t know of this letter when it has the royal seal on it — either he knew, which could get him deposed for treason, or Minister Lee used his seal without permission, which means death.
The truth is that Ha Sun didn’t know what he was sealing, because he still can’t read hanja and he trusted Minister Lee when he told him to stamp the letter. But before he can say anything, Minister Lee blurts out that he used the royal seal without permission.
Ha Sun begs him not to do this, but Minister Shin asks him to remember his request and protect the future. He stands, then suddenly grabs a sword from a nearby guard and runs at Prince Jin-pyung. Another guard slashes Minister Lee’s back, which stops him for a moment. Ha Sun screams and tries to run to him, but Moo-young holds him back.
Determined, Minister Lee stays on his feet and runs Prince Jin-pyung through with his sword. The guard attacks him again, and he goes his his knees as the entire court watches in shock. Minister Lee looks up at Ha Sun one last time, pleading with his eyes, then collapses to the ground.
Horrified, Ha Sun screams his friend’s name, “HAK-SAN!!”
COMMENTS
I know I said in the previous recap that I wouldn’t be surprised if Minister Lee was dead by the end of this drama, but I’m sure this is the end for him and I’m heartbroken anyway. He isn’t perfect, but he always does what he thinks is right at the time, even if it’s a backwards, misinformed sort of “right.” You can tell he’s a deeply good man despite some of the things he was forced to do by the way people care for him — Woon-shim, Ho-geol, Moo-young, not to mention Eunuch Jo and Ha Sun. They genuinely love and respect Minister Lee, and that says to me that at the end of the day, he’s a good person. I am glad that he’s getting to go out like a hero, like I wanted, and though I would have loved it if he’d killed Minister Shin, too, I think that honor (if it’s to be done) rightfully goes to Ha Sun.
At least Minister Lee took out Prince Jin-pyung, who was a dangerously loose cannon and independent of anything else, would have made a terrible king. That said, as much as I hate it, I do think that for Ha Sun to be a true king, Minister Lee has to die. As long as he’s alive, Ha Sun will always run to him every time something happens, and he needs to trust himself to make the right decisions. He does know what the right thing to do is, but he always hesitates until he gets Minister Lee’s opinion, and that will hinder him if it goes on for much longer. He needs to be able to rely on his own instincts and be decisive, and he can’t do that with Minister Lee there to catch him all the time.
Still, it was crushing when Minister Lee told Ha Sun before the assembly to let go of everything besides the good of the nation, because that’s when I knew that he was planning something that would probably get him killed. Ha Sun knew it too, and you could see him wanting to fight it with everything he had, but also wanting to give his friend this last show of respect for his final wishes. It hurt to watch Ha Sun struggling to keep himself from erupting and giving his enemies what they wanted, but in the end he did what a true king would do, and let events play out in such a way that lives were lost, but the country could still be saved from a tyrant. And Minister Lee can die knowing that Ha Sun will be a good king, who will work for the people and not himself, and that he’s leaving his beloved country in the care of someone who loves it as much as he does.
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1 sph_7
March 7, 2019 at 12:00 AM
Best scene of this episode was when Ha Sun spoke to Empress dowager. Two faux royalties (she’s only royalty by marriage) speaking gangsta to gangsta.
Everything else... 😪
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2 💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
March 7, 2019 at 12:18 AM
No comment. *sigh*
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BdxPelik
March 7, 2019 at 12:29 AM
Too tired for roasting today, aeh?
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
March 7, 2019 at 12:55 AM
Saving it for the final.
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Linda Palapala
March 7, 2019 at 2:22 PM
Can hardly wait. I love roast.
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adieunoire
March 7, 2019 at 5:50 PM
I can’t wait! I have many words for the finale. I should start writing.
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3 ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 12:23 AM
Minister lee's fate was so heartbreaking. 😭 He was determined to protect ha sun with his life. Says a lot about how he had grown to care and respect ha sun. He removed the biggest threat to ha sun. With guards around he could only aim at one person and he aimed at the right person because the rebel army is under jin pyong, jin pyong has a claim to the throne and of course as he is determined to get it as well. Ha sun calling minister lee haksan was something he never did before as well. That was so heartfelt. Ha sun and the dowager queen face off was satisfying to watch. He left her dumstruck.
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4 BdxPelik
March 7, 2019 at 12:28 AM
Ah, thank you for the recap! I've been waiting... But I don't even know what to comment. :\
Ok, I admit I hope it's a fakeout death (like they did in Moonlight Drawn By Clouds) but everyone knows the wise guru has gotta go for the main protagonist to grow up to his full potential.
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5 SadKDramaLama
March 7, 2019 at 12:32 AM
@LollyPip
Is Minister Lee a good person?.... Or is he a marshmallow megalomaniac couched in a polite and concerned demeanour?
Lee became judge, jury, and executioner...committing regicide for his own ends and in an invisible coup installed a cockoo on the throne.
If we take of the rose tinted glasses, he is no different from every classic sageuk evil minister in that he was a man who installed his own version of right on a entire country.
At the moment we can't even judge if the ends justify the means...but even that measure is a dark moral swamp.
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sph_7
March 7, 2019 at 12:45 AM
I was amused that although Team Evil marched into the capitol with troops and all, they decided to not kill Haksan and massacre their way into the palace, instead hoped to reclaim the throne legitimately from Team Good, who stole the throne using all the shadiest tricks in
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ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 12:57 AM
Its because they can't prove ha sun is not the king. That will make them traitors and once the generals who promised to help arrives it will risk loosing their lives. And being painted as traitors in the public eye is not the best thing for jin pyong if he wishes to be the king. Revealing ha sun's and lee kyu's letter is the best way it seemed at that point.
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sph_7
March 7, 2019 at 1:17 AM
My point is... these are bad guys, and they’re not doing their job right if they follow rules/laws/morals better than the good guys. Kill their way in and then reveal the proof of treason, or frame them, like bad guys should.
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ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 1:48 AM
You understand that they are not trying to be righteous right? They just want to find a way so they won't end up traitors in the public eye. The dowager queen also doesn't want to be a traitor and jin pyong is hoping to be a king. He probably doesn't want to end up in joseon history as a usurper. Then you can argue ha sun is an usurper as well. But the public doesn't know that and the credit for his work goes under yi heons name.
ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 3:36 AM
Plus invading the palace will result in a war between them. Which means sacrificing your soldiers, risking your lives. Ha sun is getting popular among common people so even the citizens might end up what they can do to help to save the palace. If they have a simple letter that can make ha sun a traitor why not use that path. Much safer for them. They could've succeeded in that even if minister lee didn't distract everyone with stabbing jin pyong.
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
March 7, 2019 at 1:18 AM
And they can't prove that Ha Seon is the King because...?
10 gold stickers to anyone who can get this before the final recap tomorrow.
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ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 1:35 AM
Because he looks exactly like the king. No one will believe them. Unless they can capture him, maybe make him write hanja or ask him on his family member names lol (hope eunuch jo gave him a crash course on the family members specially after the incident with so woon) . But its a long way a for them to get to interrogate the king. Its joseon he is not a current prime minister or something. The best they can do is killing ha sun but the king is above everyone and even other ministers didn't believe shin when he called ha sun a clown. People have huge respect for a king and its risking their reputations but if they proved the king is being unfaithful (in their terms) to his country by not helping ming they might have a valid reason.
bk201
March 7, 2019 at 1:46 AM
@ShaRi
Can’t they ask him some questions that the clown can’t answer? Like the king’s birth mother’s name? I mean, the queen found out this way..
ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 1:50 AM
Did you read my comment? 😅 @bk201
bk201
March 7, 2019 at 1:57 AM
@ShaRi
I must admit, I commented too soon 😅
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
March 7, 2019 at 2:16 AM
No gold stickers for you!!! 😛
ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 2:30 AM
I didn't write it to get gold stickers anyway 🤣🤣
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
March 7, 2019 at 2:33 AM
But they are so pretty... 😧
Here, have some anyway: ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 2:45 AM
@sicarius you are very kind. But save it for someone who got it according to you.
@bk201 its totally ok 😅
💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
March 7, 2019 at 12:56 AM
*round of applause for THIS comment*
Also to answer your question- "Or is he a marshmallow megalomaniac couched in a polite and concerned demeanour?"
The Latter.
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
March 7, 2019 at 1:37 AM
But... history is written by the winners. Or the writer-nim.
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
March 7, 2019 at 2:17 AM
... my hit list of writers is slowly growing.
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Linda Palapala
March 7, 2019 at 2:26 PM
Is it the writers, or TPTB showrunners who tell the writers what to write?
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💜🍍☠ Sicarius The Queen of Melonia ☠🍍💜
March 7, 2019 at 2:53 PM
Mmm being screenwriter is certainly hard. Depending on the director or production you often have zero say in what it is you're writing for sure. It's hard to prove when the fault lies with this though and when the writer is just sh♥t.
sph_7
March 7, 2019 at 3:02 PM
In a sageuk without PPL influences, this time I blame it all on the writer(s). More and more this felt like the an experienced writer set the table and left the understudies to finish the job.
jamesxms
March 7, 2019 at 1:53 AM
The devil is in the details. While Minister Lee committed all sorts of morally repugnant deeds, it consolidated Haseon's reign in power. And this in turn started the process of implementing the rice tax law, spelled the downfall of Shin Chi-soo, a power-hungry official who blatantly stole from the people (I know corruption was the prerogative of the rich and the elite back then but he took it to a wholly different level altogether) and helped usher in an era of peace and stability where Joseon Korea was not led by the noose by either the Ming or the Qing.
I would say Minister Lee was a good man when judged against the fruits of his work.
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SadKDramaLama
March 7, 2019 at 3:42 AM
@jamesxms
This is the crux of the epic 1989 film of "The Mahabharata". In the end those who we cast as "Good" could only win over those we saw as "Bad" by cheating the "bad" who fought honourably. So who was really "Good" after all?
Bad people can achieve good outcomes. Our problem is we have a tendency to want binaries where things are instead complex. This is the joy of Miyazaki's films...no one is every singularly good or bad. They exist in a complex world.
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6 bk201
March 7, 2019 at 1:10 AM
I think I’ve seen quite some cases in dramaland, when a morally ambiguous character or an anti-hero that viewers are supposed to root for, did some unforgivable crimes/sins, they are certainly to die a heroic death as their redemption of sort. I really would like to see such character pay for their wrongdoing according to law, be it a lifetime sentence, because die as a “hero” of the day feels like a cheap way out for them to escape consequences, and also a cheap way to earn sympathy from the viewers.
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ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 1:57 AM
I don't know if it is cheap but Its almost same in majority of the dramas, movies in the world. The anti heros have a high probability of dying a heroic death or having kind of a bittersweet end so that the viewers can't decide whether to love or hate him thats why many such characters have two types of viewers who love them and who hate them
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7 Kurama
March 7, 2019 at 2:39 AM
The Queen working is Minister Shin is kind of weird. He was the one who organized all the treason and asked for the death of her son. The King followed the path and made Minister Lee kill Yul. When the father of the Queen was with the Ministers who thought that Yul was too young to be part of the treason. I was pretty surprised she didn't kill Minister Lee herself because after what he said to her, I wouldn't have judged her.
I liked the death of Minister Lee. It's sad that the CLown lost a good advisor and at the end a friend, but I think he didn't die for nothing and he kind paid for his sins too.
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ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 4:24 AM
Disposing jin pyong was a piece of cake for her. Even min. Shin could've ended up like that. Shin has lot of money and still a powerful ally. Maybe it was important for her to get rid of ha sun first. And i don't think shes that righteous anyway.
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sph_7
March 7, 2019 at 5:10 AM
It was an out-of-character reason to stop JinPyung from killing Haksan and there was just one real reason she did — dramatic cliffhanger. Writernim was getting lazy with cliffhanger setup.
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ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 6:02 AM
Haksan was clearly trying to provoke jin pyong and jin pyong caught in his trap. But the dowager queen understood what he was doing there so she didn't let what haksan wanted to happen.
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sph_7
March 7, 2019 at 6:40 AM
No need to explain the dialogue to me. It was very dumbed down already. Almost cartoonish.
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ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 6:48 AM
You seemed not to get the dialogue between them 👀
sph_7
March 7, 2019 at 7:09 AM
@shaani Oh I understood very well, that they needed to drag out the killing of Haksan so the black screen ending to have some sort of impact. And to do so, make the eager to avenge mother hold off killing her son’s murderer for mere reason of “let’s do this the way so nobody can say we are traitors”. Frankly I think she should be the one holding the sword and Jin Pyung be trying to stop her, for HE should be seeking legitimate inheritance of the throne. Why would she care about that more than her son’s vengeance when that was all she tried to do for 14 episodes?
ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 8:53 AM
Because she wants more than that. Didn't she mention to shin that a younger person than jin pyong should be better to be king so it is easier for her to rule behind the curtain. And that she will let shin a say on the candidate to be the king. Apart from the revenge, she has other motives as well. For that she needs to stay as clean as possible. While getting revenge might be her primary motive she is greedy for power and control as well.
8 mysterious
March 7, 2019 at 8:19 AM
Can someone tell me why he is referred to as Hak-san. His name is Yi Kyu so is Hak-san a nickname?
And this is purely superficial but I turn into a fangirl whenever I see YJG in that blue outfit. He cuts an impressive figure. Yummm.
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sph_7
March 7, 2019 at 8:33 AM
Yi Kyu (or Lee Kyu) is his real name. Haksan is his alias (or penname, common of educated ancient people). Haksan = crane mountain
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sph_7
March 7, 2019 at 8:39 AM
I guess the right term is “courtesy name”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtesy_name
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ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 8:58 AM
Yeah i also like that hunting/fighting out fit of his. Jingoo does have a nice figure and that outfit enhances that look. ❤️❤️ Jingoo looks his best on these kind of historical kingly outfits. His face fits perfectly with them as well.
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9 PakalanaPikake
March 7, 2019 at 9:12 AM
Thanks for your recap, @lollypip!
I wasn't expecting Sunhwadang to bite the dust, but I guess I shouldn't have been surprised. Unc had already told her she was expendable -- and must have mentioned it to his spy/assassin.
I was not surprised that Haksan cashed in his chips in a bid to protect Ha Sun from the fallout from the purloined letter to Nurhachi of Later Jin.
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ShaRi
March 7, 2019 at 9:27 AM
Gee why am thinking of queen now (the music band) 😅 *another one bites the dust*
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10 Karmen ~ 🍜🏢🎭 ~ 📚☔🦋 ~ 🪂🌱💘 ~ ✨🍊💫 ~
March 7, 2019 at 12:12 PM
I am glad Lee ended his role in the story as a hero, too (and during the last scene I prayed: "Please, have some more energy to kill Shin, too. Please")
I couldn't help feeling fascinate by his dream of a "new world", and sorry by the fact that he was going to grab it, but he couldn't.
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bbstl 🧹
March 7, 2019 at 5:48 PM
Yeah, when it seemed like Haksan still had enough strength for one more thrust of the sword I was right there with you urging him to get Shin, too. A pity that didn't work out ☹️
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Karmen ~ 🍜🏢🎭 ~ 📚☔🦋 ~ 🪂🌱💘 ~ ✨🍊💫 ~
March 8, 2019 at 7:41 AM
I'm glad I wasn't alone :)
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11 SooHa
March 7, 2019 at 6:24 PM
I am drooling watching Jin Gu with that King War Custom. I can see it all day long would never tired of it. I saw him with that custom on tvn variety show and he looks gorgeous!!
ok, back to drama. I knew Minister Lee will be dead but it still heartbroken though. And again the background music always amazing.
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12 ramonathepest
March 8, 2019 at 7:33 PM
Can anyone tell me why Hasun identified himself as "the faux king" in his letter to the Jurchens or Later jin? Why not just send the letter as if he were the real king?
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