Mama Fairy and the Woodcutter: Episode 7
by LollyPip
The more we learn, the harder it is to figure out who is who, and not just when it comes to our fairy’s reincarnated husband. With everyone so consumed by their feelings, the latent memories are really starting to get confusing, especially when each memory only makes the truth harder to determine. Hopefully someone will ask the really important question soon – instead of “Who were we,” shouldn’t it be “Who are we now?”
EPISODE 7 RECAP
In the past, Ok-nam looks up at the stars with her husband, who now looks like Geum. He backhugs her and confesses that he’s scared she’ll fly away and leave him.
In the present, Geum grows emotional while watching Ok-nam shopping, and he backhugs her right in the middle of the store. He says he’s not sure what’s wrong, but that he suddenly felt like she’d fly away and leave him.
He’s embarrassed later and apologizes to Ok-nam for his strange behavior. To lighten the moment, she teases him that he was just scared she’d leave without paying for the clothes and laughs at his horrified reaction.
Yi-hyun gets a birthday card from his mother, which he immediately rips to shreds. He stomps over to his office window, only to see Geum and Ok-nam sitting outside and talking, which just intensifies his bad mood. He goes to the store and buys so much alcohol that the clerk jokingly asks if he’s throwing a party.
Geum decides to work on his project at home, and Kyung-shik asks how he can stand living with his boss. He notices that Geum’s been smiling a lot lately and asks if he’s dating, but Geum says he’s just a smiley kinda guy and waves goodbye.
Having bought a pair of flowered neckties while shopping, Ok-nam embroiders a small flower on one of them to distinguish them from each other — she figures that more flowers is always better, ha. Jeom-soon is dismayed by the wild patterns of the clothes her mom picked out for her, and she forbids Ok-nam to go shopping clothing alone or with Geum in the future, moaning that they both have terrible taste.
But she points out that Ok-nam has been in a good mood since the shopping trip and attributes it to Geum’s accompaniment. It reminds Ok-nam about Geum’s sudden hug and his fear that she would leave him, and she smiles to herself.
When Yi-hyun gets home, he and Geum settle in for an evening of drinking, and Geum tells Yi-hyun about shopping with Ok-nam. He wishes she were here now since she’s so fun to be with, and he shyly tells Yi-hyun that she’s the prettiest when she’s focused on something.
Geum waxes poetic about Ok-nam while Yi-hyun grows even more cranky, thinking about his dream where she told him they were married in a past life. He tells Geum that he should stay away from Ok-nam since she’s weird, calling herself a fairy.
Geum says he’ll handle it himself, and Yi-hyun wonders when he got so mature. He thinks back to when he first met Geum three years ago — though they were both professors, they’d each assumed the other was a student.
They get pink-cheeked from the alcohol, and Yi-hyun giggles that he dreams about a pretty wife, only to get teased by Geum for having racy dreams. Yi-hyun pulls up Jeom-soon’s naughty web novel that Geum publicly claimed to have written, and he reads the more scandalous bits out loud.
Geum begs Yi-hyun to stop, but Yi-hyun admits that the story is actually pretty compelling. By the time he’s done reading an emotional scene, Yi-hyun and Geum are holding hands and sobbing, lol. They get overheated, so they head outside to cool down, and Yi-hyun nearly barfs on Geum while Geum is stuck upside-down on some exercise equipment.
Geum pouts that he wants to visit Ok-nam and give her his phone, so they literally skip to her place. Jeom-soon answers the door in cat form, then Ok-nam comes up behind them, having been out praying due to the full moon. Geum presents her with some dried squid like it’s a precious gift, then hurriedly gives her his real gift — his cell phone.
Ok-nam says that she doesn’t need it, but Geum blurts out, “I need it!” He explains that he wants to be able to call her, then he bows low to her and tries to link arms with Yi-hyun to leave, but Yi-hyun just rolls his eyes and slaps him away.
Ok-nam invites them in for coffee, and Yi-hyun turns on his heel and marches inside, not needing to be invited twice. He recognizes the room as the place where he woke up with the tiger, and he eyeballs Jeom-soon-the-cat suspiciously.
As Ok-nam serves the guys their coffee, a breeze blows out the candle, and the three sit in the room with nothing but the light from the full moon streaming through the window. Yi-hyun looks over at Jeom-soon, who now appears as a young girl with a missing finger on her right hand.
Geum also sees something strange — Izy, the fire fairy, who lights the candle with a gesture before turning back into Yi-hyun. Okay, what now?? Yi-hyun is just as confused as Geum, wondering if he really just magically lit the candle, but he attributes it to still being a little drunk.
Since both guys are here, Ok-nam gives them the neckties she got for them. But the festive box reminds Yi-hyun of the birthday card from his mother, and how she used to yell at him that he never should have been born. She’d also locked him inside, forbidding him to go out.
He asks Ok-nam how she knows it’s his birthday. He accuses her of digging for information on him and refuses the gift, snapping that he doesn’t celebrate his birthday. He sees a familiar jade ring and grabs it, asking angrily why she’s intruding on his dreams and warning her never to do it again.
Geum follows Yi-hyun out, and when Yi-hyun rounds on him, he briefly sees Geum with long, white hair. He experiences a memory from the fairy realm… Izy, her entire body on fire, is banished from the fairy realm for breaking the laws of nature. She looks up at Bausae, who returns her gaze with no emotion on his face, and she thinks that this is happening because he betrayed her.
Unaware, Geum accuses Yi-hyun of being selfish and rude to Ok-nam. He informs Yi-hyun that Ok-nam didn’t know his birthday — she just got paid, and so she got them each identical gifts. He tells Yi-hyun that he needs to apologize tomorrow, and Yi-hyun tosses and turns in bed that night, feeling bad about his outburst.
The immortal trio are woken up at o’dark thirty to work the shrimp boat. They get to the deck in time to see the captain whack Fairy Oh’s reincarnated husband upside the head, so when he yells at them to get to work, they snap right to it.
The next day is Yi-hyun’s actual birthday, so Geum’s mom makes him seaweed soup for breakfast, but neither Geum nor Yi-hyun answer her call to the table. Geum is already at the lab, where Kyung-shik evidently spent the night, and he borrows Kyung-shik’s phone to text Ok-nam an apology for last night on his own phone.
Ok-nam goes to Jeom-soon for instructions on how to reply, the cell phone being a complete mystery to her. They both jump when the phone’s AI talks back to them, but it runs out of battery before they can do anything else.
Geum’s mom carries the seaweed soup all the way to campus, where she gets turned around and confused. She gets into a fight with a professor over a vending machine drink, sailing away victorious when she wins the argument.
It’s raining heavily, and when Ok-nam ventures out into the rain to bring in the kiosk sign, Yi-hyun shows up, grumbling at her lack of an umbrella. He sincerely apologizes about his misunderstanding last night, and as Ok-nam runs inside to get his gift, he notices the jacket she’s wearing with the tiger embroidered on the back.
Ok-nam tells Yi-hyun that she had a husband who died young, and that she’s been waiting for his reincarnation for hundreds of years. She’s been praying to the Master of the North Star to bring back her husband and let her recognize him. She says that she thinks she’s finally found him, and she asks Yi-hyun hopefully, “Are you my husband?”
Yi-hyun sighs and wilts, but he doesn’t get a chance to answer, because they both realize that Geum is standing only a few feet away. He gives Ok-nam the phone charger he brought and turns to go, but Ok-nam stops him and offers to make him some coffee. He declines, gives her his umbrella, and walks away in the rain.
Dr. Lee overhears a pair of coeds complaining that they didn’t get their coffee this morning because Yi-hyun was having a serious discussion with the coffee halmoni. They saw him holding an umbrella for her and getting a gift, and they wonder if he’s into older women.
She goes to the ladies’ room to curse at Yi-hyun for not liking her when she’s much prettier than Ok-nam. Geum’s mom hears her and asks what she’s so upset about, but she’s too mad to do anything but huff and puff.
On her way out, Dr. Lee knocks Mom’s container of seaweed soup onto the floor. They argue over whose fault it was until Mom mentions that it was for Geum’s boss. Dr. Lee cringes to learn that she’s fighting with Geum’s mother, and she suddenly goes all sweet and polite.
When Yi-hyun gets home at the end of the day, he charges up his dead phone to find a text message from Dr. Lee. She says that Geum’s mom was trying to find him with some seaweed soup, and she’s been attempting to call him all day to invite him out for a birthday dinner.
Instead of responding, he lies on his bed thinking of Ok-nam, and how she asked if he’s her husband. He falls asleep, and the three ghosts (or are they demons?) hover over his bed, wondering what kind of dream his confused mind will come up with tonight.
He dreams of a tiny shack, and a little boy who’s tied up inside. He thinks, “I won’t forgive those who abandoned me. I hate them. Even if I die here and am reborn, I won’t forgive them.”
In the morning, he shows up to lecture wearing a wildly floral tie. Wow, and awww. He reaches into his bag for his textbook but pulls out a box of cereal instead, making the class laugh at his absentmindedness.
Geum seems to have a cold, probably from giving Ok-nam his umbrella. When Yi-hyun comes to the lab later, he and Geum gape at each other — they’re wearing the same tie, ha. Yi-hyun claims that his is better, since it’s got a hand-embroidered flower on the back, but Geum sniffs that his is embroidered with a butterfly, which is way more complicated.
Dr. Lee stops by to yell at Yi-hyun for never calling her back, and she asks Geum nervously if his mom said anything about her. He shrugs that Mom only asked where Dr. Lee works. She pulls out a pen and asks for his autograph as Jeom-soon the Tiger, and since Geum doesn’t know what Jeom-soon’s real signature looks like it, he just writes the name inside of a heart.
Geum sneezes again, so Yi-hyun orders him to go home, even offering Geum his umbrella for the walk. Geum pouts that he’s not sick (sniffle) and insists that he feels fine (snort), so Yi-hyun puts him in a headlock and drags him home.
On the walk, Geum asks if Yi-hyun pities him for overhearing Ok-nam say that she thinks Yi-hyun is her husband, but Yi-hyun scoffs that it’s all nonsense. Geum disagrees, saying that he believes her, and that there are things in the world that humans don’t understand.
Yi-hyun argues that Geum is a scientist, but Geum is adamant that even science doesn’t know everything. His words remind Yi-hyun of what Ok-nam said when they first met — that he only believes in what he can see — but he accuses Geum of having a savior complex.
Geum just asks why Yi-hyun doesn’t believe anything Ok-nam says, rendering Yi-hyun speechless. He suddenly declares it ridiculous for two men to be sharing an umbrella (especially since they look like they’re wearing couple ties, hee), and he stomps off shielding his hair from the rain with his cereal box. He runs all the way home, Geum right on his heels.
It’s meal time on the shrimp boat, and the immortals are so exhausted and cranky that they yell at Fairy Oh’s husband that it’s all his fault they’re here after he stole Master Gu’s wallet. Fairy Oh just quietly passes her husband choice bites of fish, but soon it’s time to get back to work. Master Gu and Shin-seon are in excruciating pain from the backbreaking work, so they plot their escape for tonight.
After drinking again, Yi-hyun and Geum attempt to outdo each other’s masculinity with feats of strength and scientific knowledge. They end up lying on the deck looking up at the moon, and Yi-hyun tells Geum that he grew up in an orphanage. He says that two nuns looked after about twenty kids, and that although they were all orphans, he was different.
He’d learned by accident one day that he was the son of Sister Bo-won, and she’d yelled at him that he never should have been born. It had been his birthday, which explains why he hates his birthdays.
Yi-hyun jumps up, and notes that Geum’s lotus flower, which he calls Ssambab (lotus wrap in Korean), hasn’t bloomed yet. Geum says that’s not its name, but Yi-hyun just goes to bed, where he can’t sleep for the thoughts of Ok-nam asking if he’s her husband. Upstairs, Geum calls his lotus flower by its real name, “Ok-nam,” then cringes with adorable embarrassment.
He dreams that he’s sitting in the sky when Ok-nam shows up and catches him tasting a cloud. They find themselves on a paddleboat, which Geum says he once rode with his mother as a child. Ok-nam paddles and the boat flies into the air, and Ok-nam compliments Geum on his beautiful imagination.
He tells her that his life has changed since he met her, and that just seeing her makes his heart flutter. A lotus flower blooms around Ok-nam’s head as she blushes, and she’s still blushing in the morning when she wakes. Wait, so she’s really visiting their dreams?
When Geum wakes up, Lotus Ok-nam is blooming for real. But Yi-hyun is at Ok-nam’s place, there to answer her question. He asks if it’s important that he was her husband, saying that he doesn’t know anything about reincarnation, but there’s one thing he does know: “It’s the fact that I’m starting to like you.”
Epilogue: “Ham-suk’s unrequited love, when he became her man”
When they were still in school, Dr. Lee (whose first name is Ham-suk) and Yi-hyun had accidentally booked the same room for their department meetings. They’d fought so viciously that a teaching assistant thought they were siblings, and he’d said they even have the same eyes.
Yi-hyun chastised him for judging people by their looks, which caught Dr. Lee’s attention and made her fall for him on the spot.
COMMENTS
Yay, this is exactly what I’ve been waiting for! I’d hoped someone would say it, and I’m not surprised that it’s Yi-hyun the pragmatist who’s asking… why does the man Ok-nam is with now have to be the reincarnation of her husband? I know she’s been waiting for him for centuries, and that’s commendable — nobody can say that Ok-nam hasn’t been loyal and steadfast. But even Jeom-soon pointed out that after being reincarnated, her husband will be an entirely new person who doesn’t remember her.
So why can’t she fall in love with someone new? Even though she believes that Yi-hyun is her husband’s reincarnation, she seems to be more attracted to Geum, and it’s not like she hasn’t jumped to conclusions too quickly before (when she assumed the man at the spring was her friend Bausae just because they shared a name). The original story has the fairy waiting for her husband so she can recover her winged dress and go back to the fairy realm, but this Ok-nam just seems to want to find him so that her family will be intact again, and because she loved him. But since he’s gone, and will be different even if he’s reincarnated, there’s no reason she can’t be with the man who is right for her now.
Before seeing this episode, I had written out an entire theory of what I thought was happening regarding the reincarnations, and who is who in this life, because I had a sudden epiphany and thought I’d figured it all out. Then we got that scene where Geum briefly saw Yi-hyun as Izy the fire fairy, and Yi-hyun’s memory of her being kicked out of the fairy realm, and it blew my entire theory out of the water. But at least now I’m the good kind of confused — before, I was confused because we had no information to go on, but now I’m confused because there’s so much information and I can’t make it add up in my head.
I doubt that we’re being given the truth yet, but it now looks as though Yi-hyun and Geum are the reincarnations of fairies Bausae (Geum) and Izy (Yi-hyun). I don’t yet know where Woodcutter Bausae, Ok-nam’s husband, fits into this scenario, but we’ve seen him portrayed by both men, so he could have been an interim reincarnation of either of them. Ok-nam believes that he was the reincarnation of her fairy friend Bausae, but she really had no evidence of that, and he could have been either of them, or neither.
Part of my theory was, and still is, that the deer that led Woodcutter Bausae to the spring where Ok-nam was bathing was also a reincarnation of either Izy or Fairy Bausae. If one of them was the deer, s/he could have been the one who stole Ok-nam’s clothes (Woodcutter Bausae seems innocent of this). At this point, it could be that the deer was Izy reincarnated, and that she set up their marriage as some kind of retaliation against Fairy Bausae for getting her kicked out of the fairy realm. She may even have been responsible for Woodcutter Bausae’s death, which would explain Yi-hyun’s dream where he apologized to Jeom-soon that she had to grow up without a father. It’s a lot of speculation, but the pieces fit in an odd, but satisfying way.
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1 Yashashree Jadhav
November 28, 2018 at 6:59 PM
Now I really wonder if we have even met the real clothes stealer. As you said it could be fire fairy as the deer who stole the clothes. Or it could be her reincarnated who caused the untimely death of the husband and now she is YiHyun and that's why he is sorry about JeomSoon having to grow without a father.
I'm really starting to think that Geum had feelings for OkNam in the celestial realm. maybe the betrayal was that he had feelings for OkNam and not Firefairy and so she felt betrayed and did something illegal?
Also Geum recognizes the fragrance packet while YiHyun did not.
Then again it is unclear if the husband left it or some other being.
In some odd way I am actually rooting for Geum to be with OkNam in the present (I've recently had strong SLS in 2018 dramas haha) though technically we don't know yet. (or do we?)
Ok until next week's episodes, my current predictions are as follows:
Geum is indeed Bausae and is immortal (ish) and has always carried a torch for OkNam (may or may not have been the husband)
The Deer was the reincarnated FireFairy
and if YiHyun was indeed he FireFairy then she also heard OkNam telling Bausae that she was going to make Lotus leaf rice with his fan. So this fits with him thinking of that while eating her lotus leaf rice
Need more data for more theories haha (whoa that was a long comment!)
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2 Peony
November 28, 2018 at 9:23 PM
The PD is INTENTIONALLY going for the cringey old school CGI then.
I thought for a moment that Geum is shooting a baby cologne ad when he was sitting on that rigid cotton ball/padding cloud (and ate it!) Lol.
🌨🐰☁️
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3 yayabean
November 28, 2018 at 10:05 PM
Thank you for the recap. I'm enjoying this drama more than I expected 😀. Your recaps are always insightful.
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4 Mich
November 28, 2018 at 10:12 PM
hmm.. as much as Geummie has stolen my drama heart in this one, the back and forth really confuses me: both on feelings (how did Yi-hyun even begin to develop feelings for Ok-nam? was it the butterfly eared worm dream!?) and identity (again, haven't read the webtoon so no clue. but Bausae/Dubhe/husband thing - I still haven't gotten the names down pat, so LollyPip - think I'll have to go reread your previous recaps for a better understanding of the fairy realm!). i'm planning to push through but... c'mon production team >.<
on a brighter note, found Yi-hyun/Kim Geum's house exterior! it's on my favourite k-drama street, Seongmisanro-29gil :) recognised it off the bat from the trailer! location here: https://koreandramaland.com/listings/house-seongmisanro-29gil/
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5 fayefaye
November 28, 2018 at 11:17 PM
what happen to moon chae-won's face? her face seems different
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marus
November 29, 2018 at 8:00 AM
Different from where exactly??
Because I feel everyone who says that stopped watching her after Innocent Man... Which was six years ago.
If you watched her works after that she has been the same. Mood of the Day (2016), Goodbye Mr Black (2016), Criminal Minds (2017).
What I feel is that she stopped starving herself to have a slim face, and is now back to her chubby cheeks from debut days lol
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Mintchocolate
November 29, 2018 at 9:31 AM
that's true Moon Chae Won had a chubby face.. i watched her and Lee Min Ho in this Mackerel drama... she was very chubby in the face... it got slimmer in Innocent Man. Now its back to slightly chubbier... :)
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6 ramonathepest
November 28, 2018 at 11:31 PM
@lollypip FYI - the birthday wishes card/note was from the other nun. Nun Yesan, I believe her name was. But in any case, his nun-mother's name started with a "B".
And what a horrible woman to do that to a child. Even if he was the result of a rape, she should change/transfer orders or send him to a different orphanage.
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LollyPip
November 28, 2018 at 11:41 PM
It was from the Yesan orphanage - the nun named herself after it? - but the card was signed by "Mother."
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ramonathepest
November 29, 2018 at 1:32 PM
Ohhhh. Thank you for the clarification. 😊
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Mintchocolate
November 29, 2018 at 9:32 AM
ikr! its certainly not the child's fault!
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
December 1, 2018 at 12:02 PM
I doubt it was from rape. He was a constant reminder of her sins.
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ramonathepest
December 1, 2018 at 4:07 PM
I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt and to point out that no matter how bad the situation might have been for her (whatever it was) , there's no excuse or reason that makes what she's doing and saying to this child ok.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
December 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM
Oh I agree. It's not just the hypocrisy of it but the brutality that's so shocking. I guess because it's based on a manwha that must pull no punches? I'm assuming (( haven't read it) because this show has a lot of themes that I'm not used to seeing in kdramas. I like that it's more realistic in some respects than other 'realistic' dramas.
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7 PakalanaPikake
November 29, 2018 at 12:04 AM
Beware of Rampant Speculation
Part 1 of 2
Thank you for your recap and speculations, @lollypip! I, too, have been half-heartedly trying to follow the bouncing incarnations, and am glad I didn't sprain my brain. Your detailed review of the evidence corroborated my observations that both Yi-hyun and Geum have been Ok-nam's love at different times, whether in immortal/fairy or human form.
I can see how present-day crankypants Yi-hyun could be the reincarnation of the fiery Izy. As if his traumatic earlier life as the illegitimate child of a very angry Catholic nun (!) at an orphanage hasn't been bad enough. It's giving me flashbacks to my K-8 stint in parochial school. I have suspected there was a good reason for his tsundere mask against the world, but this twist came right out of left field. Yi-hyun's case-hardened personality has been growing on me. Yeah, I'm a sucker for Protagonists Who Are Misunderstood. The way he calls Geum's beautiful lotus plant “Ssambab” (lotus wrap) is cute in a peevish way.
Yi-hyun's current lifetime, and at least one or two past ones, have turned out to be tragic. I half expect to learn that his imprisonment as a small child in a hanok shack (Mr. McGregor's Joseon toolshed?!) is because he's a deposed crown prince or something. Did he escape and survive to grow up to be a Caspar Hauser-ish woodcutter who was bumped off a cliff by scheming political rivals? It sure sounds like something out of the Brothers Grimm. Or is the kid trussed up in the shed a different person from the adult woodcutter?
Re: Yi-hyun’s dream where he apologized to Jeom-soon that she had to grow up without a father. Here's another possible interpretation: the deceased Woodcutter Bausae himself is apologizing to his daughter that he could not be present in her life. It's a dream, so anything is possible.
I knew it! That shifty-eyed deer is up to no good. It feels like the scheming Dr. Lee to me. I find her infatuation with her insomniac patient Yi-hyun creepy and unethical. Not to mention a conflict of interest. Ewww. She is such a graceless boor in all senses of the word when she knocks over the seaweed soup Geum's mother made for the professor's birthday. I can't wait to find out that Geum's satoori-spouting Mom is the Queen of Heaven who could smite Dr. Lee's jealous little butt into the Delta Quadrant. If she wanted to bother.
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PakalanaPikake
November 29, 2018 at 12:05 AM
Beware of Rampant Speculation
Part 2 of 2
About those couple neckties. The pattern is the same and is outlined in black or grayscale, but the color schemes are different. Yi-hyun's is lavender and white, while Geum's is yellow and white. Anyone who thinks they're loud must not have been not alive during the 1960s. (Psychedelic Peter Max prints, anyone? DayGlo colors? See http://mentalfloss.com/article/82792/brief-history-day-glo for the retina-searing colors you missed out on.)
The way the two of them are carrying on while Yi-hyun reads that deeply affecting passage from Jeom-soon's BL novel – and their tipsy skinship – now has me wondering if Tiger Girl's hot-under-the-collar story is not fiction, but rather a tale (or memory?!) from a past lifetime. Har! Further suspicious evidence: that umbrella moment in the pouring rain is a send-up of the short story “Sonagi” and the movie THE CLASSIC, even if the cranky professor takes shelter under a cereal box instead of a jacket over his head. Talk about creative PPL. LOL! And why did I have to recall BUNGEE JUMPING OF THEIR OWN just now? (Knock me over with a feather... I just realized that Eugene Choi in MR. SUNSHINE was not the first time I'd seen Lee Byung-hun.) I could also make a case for Geum and Yi-hyun being past-life siblings – separated twins, even. Erstwhile father and son has also crossed my mind.
Say what?! Did I read correctly that Geum is a professor, and not just Yi-hyun? I couldn't have guessed it from the subtitles I've been reading. Thank you for bringing up that fine point. Does that mean that Geum is some kind of prodigy? He looks too young to be a professor. Maybe he's really hundreds of years old, and is just remarkably well-preserved, courtesy of Mom's down home cooking. Or has had very good plastic surgery at Yi-hyun's former practice in DISCOVERY OF ROMANCE. Har! ;-)
Speaking of Geum, I love how he's named his lotus plant Ok-nam. Awwww. They both communicate with vegetation. After seeing her in his dream in the clouds, I don't know what to think. But if Ok-nam can materialize in Geum's dream, then maybe someone else is invading Yi-hyun's slumbers. Methinks Dr. Lee is trying to pull a fast one – but is horribly inept at dream infiltration.
I suspect that Ok-nam's embroidery on the two neckties is significant. The butterfly motif is a call-out to the Butterfly Dream of Zhuangzi. See https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Zhuangzi#Zhuangzi.
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Mich
November 29, 2018 at 12:46 AM
hmm! contrary - i don't think Geummie is a professor, more like a teacher's assistant? if they were both professors and on the same level, they would (and a hesitant would, at that) be speaking in banmal to each other. of course, save for the fact that Geummie is younger and hence him speaking politely. would also think it's because of the title that he does so. if we were to go along the line of 'seniority' (based on when Yi-hyun joined the university - was it 3 years before?) and if Geummie was already around then... then he'd be the senior haha. notice how we've never seen Geummie teach a class (though we've not seen that with Ham-sook as well, but that's another story) and he talks about how he needs to write papers with the other lab assistants. just my 2 cents!
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PakalanaPikake
November 29, 2018 at 12:56 AM
Thanks, @michh. Teaching
Assistant ( = graduate student) makes sense to me.
This is a great loophole! Har!
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Mintchocolate
November 29, 2018 at 9:36 AM
yes... i thought someone would say it... Geummie isn't a professor. he appears to be a Teaching Assistant to the Professor. In my former college, professors could be assigned teaching and research assistant depending on the field. these person would later move on to Graduate Studies, obtain PhDs and sometimes returned to the college as professors themselves.
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Mich
November 29, 2018 at 5:19 PM
nice! thanks for that @mintchocolate86. @lollypip, any thoughts? :)
ramonathepest
November 29, 2018 at 1:36 PM
Haha! So much good stuff in your post but the thing that has stood out in my mind the most (besides the '60's psychedelic colors & patterns) is that you haven't seen Lee Byung hun in anything in between Bungee Jumping and Mr. Sunshine? That's incredible!
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PakalanaPikake
November 29, 2018 at 2:44 PM
@ramonathepest,
I've also seen LBH in MASQUERADE, which I really liked. I just didn't know it was him. ;-)
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ramonathepest
December 1, 2018 at 4:48 AM
I recommend "Addicted" (movie) and "Iris" (the series, not the movie). The movie Iris is the series cut up into bits to make the movie. I watched the movie first and couldn't make heads or tail of what was going on.
sooyi
November 29, 2018 at 1:34 AM
As a webtoon reader, all I can spoil is that in Buddhist and other Asian religions I guess, a person who had committed crimes in their lifetime is indeed forced to live a misfortunate life in the next reincarnation cycle.
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PakalanaPikake
November 29, 2018 at 1:57 AM
@sooyi,
Funny you should mention the corrective role of karma. I just posted on that topic elsewhere. ;-)
http://www.dramabeans.com/2018/11/the-death-of-the-k-drama-hero/#comment-3352318
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Annie
November 29, 2018 at 10:19 AM
Where could I read the webtoon (in English, of course), pretty please? I'm the type of person who reads first the ending of a detective story... Promise not to say anything to anybody about it!
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sooyi
December 1, 2018 at 2:09 AM
I'm sorry but I read the webtoon in Korean. There doesn't seem any English translation so far.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
December 1, 2018 at 12:01 PM
Her role as his quasi-therapist is really peeving me. When will kdramas stop portraying therapists are so unprofessional. There's no way she'd be treating him if he's her friend. She would have referred him a long time ago.
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8 sooyi
November 29, 2018 at 1:27 AM
Lol I'm laughing that Dr. Lee fell for Prof. Jung not in the traditional swoony way :DD
Judging from the way Geum's lotus bloomed, I guess we are in for a storm (the latter event in the webtoon was the precedent of the emotional events to come)...
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9 latebloomer
November 29, 2018 at 6:41 AM
Watching this for Geum, and wishing we would see more of older Ok-nam.
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Mich
November 29, 2018 at 8:01 AM
join the Geummie fanclub! hehe :) and yes - was thinking about older Ok-nam yesterday too.
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Yashashree Jadhav
November 29, 2018 at 8:10 AM
I'm definitely in the Geummie fanclub too! Where can I sign up?
I love his smile! He just lights up when he sees Ok Nam (husband or not)
And he def has the most chemistry with the Jeom siblings
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Mich
November 29, 2018 at 5:17 PM
sign up with me and @captblackdog! hehe ;) we need to start planning how to save our boy from further heartbreak sigh >.<
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Possum
December 2, 2018 at 4:56 PM
The simple delight he has is very charming.
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10 Mintchocolate
November 29, 2018 at 9:42 AM
thanks for the recap! i am really enjoying the show a lot! yet to watch eps. 7 and 8 though! i love how light it is and sorta heart-warming in parts. it's a bit complicated too with the reincarnation bit. anyway... loving it all... esp, Geum's chemistry with Ok-Nam. I LOVE old Ok-Nam! but i agree that young Ok-Nam should have more of the spotlight since it is her story....How cute is it that Geum has chemistry with both on them... awwwwwwww. Yi-Hyun needs to prove himself to me. he's a bit of an annoying wart right now. but his backstory shed a bit more light on why he is so emo and misunderstood, i guess...lmao
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Mintchocolate
November 29, 2018 at 9:43 AM
both of*
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11 capt_blackdog is dirty but pretty
November 29, 2018 at 12:07 PM
I actually like that this seemingly simple and fluffy drama leads to so many speculations! Everyone who hasn't read the manhwa seems to be confused. And, at least for me, it's also 'the good kind of confused', as @lollypip aptly put it.
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12 judepps
November 29, 2018 at 7:39 PM
when i heard this drama will star MCW i have high hopes because i was been her fan since Brilliant Legacy. Also i had watched Yoon Hyun-Min from Tunnel drama so i didnt have any reasons not to watch it. Yet everytime CG is shown i can't help but cringe.
I love the cast especially the veteran actress Ko Du-Shim. I hope they will find ways to improve their CG as it makes the drama cheaper.
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13 Mehgann
November 29, 2018 at 7:53 PM
Geum is the sweetest, most adorable character on the planet. Honestly. Just a little peanut. But I like her better with YiHyun. He challenges her more, and I think she needs that in her life, in part because she does leap to conclusions and make mistakes that inadvertently affect other people in negative ways.
I don't get the side story of the three lost fairies. I'm hoping the reason for their odyssey becomes obvious soon, because I'm starting to fast-forward through their scenes out of boredom.
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judepps
November 30, 2018 at 7:17 PM
for me these 3 lost fairies seems like a filler to me now... Their character are not showing any substance character yet. Hopefully soon we can see their significance in the plot of the drama..
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
December 1, 2018 at 11:58 AM
God the shrimp boat is boring. The whole journey of the other Immortals is sucking the life out of everything. I'm glad it's being recapped so I can read what happened instead of having to watch it.
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14 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
December 1, 2018 at 11:48 AM
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15 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
December 1, 2018 at 11:57 AM
I have to give this show credit for keeping me guessing, even as my reluctant step onto the deck of a certain ship flounders two feet from the docks.
This show raises and almost deals with my entire problem with reincarnation generally. I don't want to offend anybody's belief systems but I obviously don't believe in reincarnation. And my biggest issue with it - narratively, not philosophically - is what does it even mean? .
If Yi-hyun is reincarnated Izy, what does that mean? That he is her? That he just has memories of her? What does "reincarnation of her husband" mean? Is he a different man? The same man? if he's a different man, then why bother?
I feel like the show could either come down on the side of 'reincarnation is destiny', in which case the whole thing could get extremely tragic. Or 'reincarnation doesn't matter', in which case why worry about it at all?
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