Premiere Watch: The Great Seducer
by girlfriday
The Great Seducer
Time slot: Monday & Tuesday
Broadcaster: MBC
Genre: Romance melodrama
Episode count: 32 (half-hour episodes, 16 hours total)
Reasons to watch: If you happen to be in the mood for a soapy teen melodrama, The Great Seducer is on its way this week with the promise of money, power, and scandal all wrapped up in a very pretty young cast. The adaptation of the movie Untold Scandal, which was based on the French novel Les Liaisons dangereuses, is about a set of aristocrats who set out to seduce a virtuous woman just to prove a point. This version is set in the world of chaebol heirs in contemporary Korea, so we can expect something closer to Cruel Intentions crossed with Heirs.
Last year’s breakout star Woo Do-hwan takes the lead as the sole heir to a chaebol group who only hangs out with the two other richest kids in school. The girl he likes is one of his best friends, but they find out that they’re soon to be step-siblings because their parents are getting married for business reasons. Stepsister just wants to get revenge on the poor scholarship student (played by Joy) who stole the attention of her older boyfriend, and propositions Woo Do-hwan to seduce and dump her.
I’m curious to see how dark they take the adaptation, since this is a well-known story about amoral characters, and K-dramas have this tendency to make even their darkest antiheroes fluffy marshmallows deep down. But if anyone can sell the duality of a seducer who might be falling in love, it’s Woo Do-hwan, so I plan to check it out for his performance. And if he must be a marshmallow, let’s at least be a charred marshmallow with a blackened heart.
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1 lotus
March 12, 2018 at 8:06 AM
I'm loving all the teasers they've given us so far. And yes, I totally agree! If there's anyone who could pull off this aura, it's Woo Do-hwan! That charismatic face together with that earg@sm voice... ugh, yesss! <3 ;;
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2 heyitschristina
March 12, 2018 at 8:10 AM
Kinda excited but kinda apprehensive about this drama. Even in the previews it seems like the male leads are out-acting the female leads but here’s to hoping it’s good
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KSKalways
March 12, 2018 at 8:31 AM
exactly how I feel about it...
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gonebarefoot
March 12, 2018 at 11:45 AM
why is that always the caseee though.
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heyitschristina
March 12, 2018 at 1:09 PM
I think when idol-actors, regardless of gender, are given lead roles right away (without the level of talent that gives merit to their casting) the difference in skill level is super noticeable when paired with counterparts that have proven their worth. I know Moon Ga-young isn’t an idol but I’m assuming she was part of a package deal with Joy since they both are under the same company umbrella SM
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D
March 12, 2018 at 3:57 PM
I wish Woo Do-Hwan didn't stand out so badly among the young cast. The two first episodes were carried on the shoulders of WDH and Kim Seo-Hyung. I can see how good this drama could be if some of the young and the old actors didn't try too hard which is as bad as not doing enough. At least Joy was not too bad either.
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heyitschristina
March 12, 2018 at 7:05 PM
Just finished the first two episodes and I thought everyone did decently but we will see how it goes once the angst picks up! I got to say though I love the banter and chemistry between the 3 rich kids but we know that has to go up in flames 🔥 right 😭 Also, most of the parents are down right awful
sapot
March 12, 2018 at 10:16 PM
it's weird to hear that whd and kim seo hyung hard carry cause all I heard is wdh and moon ga young hard carry and joy didn't,
I find the complaint is absurd because the ep isn't about joy and all about the 3 friend's life, ofc they are in the spotlight.
gonebarefoot
March 12, 2018 at 7:14 PM
I'm going to sit and let you guys do the watching and give feedback on how good it is before I commit to it. I have to be choosy with any angst filled drama since I like being in control of emotions too much. It has to be worth it to have me sobbing in a corner!
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heyitschristina
March 12, 2018 at 7:21 PM
Will let you know if it goes south and gets dropped once the 💩 really starts to hit the fan
hiheel
March 13, 2018 at 6:58 AM
Personally for me it feels abit soapy already with they hey you're not my child hey suddenly our parenrs are unhappy with their relationships and are getting married even though we like each other and hey we are destined to be together cus we met each other by chance
Im watching this for woo do hwan and kim min jae but i still need a decent plot for me to continue on i see potential for the drama to be darker then it seems with woo do hwan kissing someone thats kinda older than him already? so i guess if yhe show continues down that kind of amoral road it has potential
3 Diraito Teson
March 12, 2018 at 8:10 AM
I expect a lot from this one.
I want it on par with Cruel City and Misty. I want it evil, I want it un-shying from stuff like Save Me.
Basically I want it on a cable station cause MBC will ruin it. I want it somewhere where there won't be protests about every single thing :(
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KSKalways
March 12, 2018 at 9:50 AM
yes to everything!
and yet, I feel like it might not...
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Nessie
March 12, 2018 at 12:29 PM
It could be tone down high school version of Misty? But that is a bit of a far reach. I think anything better than Heirs is a good sign.
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Anna
March 13, 2018 at 7:38 AM
I def feel like this should have been on TVN. I do hope they don't shy too far away from being a bit darker/heavier, since the characters are in college and all their promo has that "darker" look, but I also would like some nice moments. Haha.
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4 🍙 kimbap noona
March 12, 2018 at 8:13 AM
Merging businesses through marriage is certainly a convenient one, but I would imagine in today’s world it is an antiquated method that does not necessarily guarantee a long alliance especially when the marriage has gone sour.
I hope I don’t just end up wondering why all these chaebol heirs have so much time on their hands to take petty revenge on a fellow classmate.
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Kitkat
March 12, 2018 at 8:23 AM
I think you underestimate the importance of alliance marriages of todays chaebols.
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greenfields
March 12, 2018 at 8:40 AM
Depends on your part of the world. Arranged marriage between chaebol families may be common, who knows? Just as the continue to be very common in India where I am from.
*Is living the pressure to meet boys* :/
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🍙 kimbap noona
March 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM
@greenfields, are you the real-life hidden chaebol heiress with a DB alias, the one among us with birth secret?
*is living vicariously through other Beanies*
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greenfields
March 12, 2018 at 6:05 PM
😂😂😂😅 I wish! Or am I? *muahahaha*
I just mean they're common here regardless of your background and status.
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mindy
March 12, 2018 at 8:58 AM
Totally agree with that last paragraph. Something about the plot just squicks me out? I don’t know. And I’m not the biggest fan of chaebol stories in the first place. I can’t exactly connect with them most of the time. I’ll check it out for Woo Do-hwan but my expectations aren’t too high.
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gonebarefoot
March 12, 2018 at 7:15 PM
I like your use of the word squick.
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heyitschristina
March 12, 2018 at 9:58 AM
I think marital happiness is an afterthought and a luxury in the chaebol marriage alliances. It’s almost like it’s your duty to marry rich if you want to stand to inherit anything- but I also feel like this more with old money than new money.
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🍙 kimbap noona
March 12, 2018 at 1:51 PM
That makes a lot of sense. If the marriage is based on financial calculations, the marriage might have more of a chance to "survive" when love is taken out of the equation.
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5 PurpleTeapot
March 12, 2018 at 8:26 AM
I wasn't planning on checking this out, but when the teasers dropped, they gave off the indisputable aura of a crack drama, so much so that I got tempted into live streaming a little bit of it (pun not intended... maybe 🙊).
I mentioned on my fanwall how they seemed to have cast similar-looking female leads (or at least styled them similarly), and I just found out that the male lead offer originally went out to Yeo Jin-goo, and many have said that he and Kim Min-jae bear a resemblance to each other. It makes me wonder if there's a deliberate parallel/ foil going on 🤔 Could be interesting to think (and geek out) about while watching.
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sooyi
March 12, 2018 at 10:20 AM
Actually, Moon Ga-young and Joy are both from SM Entertainement! I find it weird too that the female leads look quite similar and also Moon Ga-young's characters seemed better in the trailer but I don't find her a femme fatale yet.
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cherry 🍒
March 13, 2018 at 2:47 AM
Those two girls look so much alike that I was confused the whole time while watching teasers.
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Anna
March 13, 2018 at 7:45 AM
LOL your description of it being a crack drama is spot on. When I saw the trailer, I was like "damn, I am going to be sucked into watching this aren't I...." and yep, what do you know, ten minutes into the first ep and I was already like "Damn, I'm in trouble." The Heirs started out like that, too, but we all know how they turned out. Here's to hoping this one maintains the quality and gives us real heartbreak and drama. Yes, I know that's asking for a bit much! Haha. Also, thank god Yeo Jin Goo turned down the role. I don't think he would have been a good match.
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6 giocare 🌻💛
March 12, 2018 at 8:36 AM
I can't help thinking how amazing this show would be if it was being aired on a cable channel or if the cast was older (c'mon why are they high school students?!)
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greenfields
March 12, 2018 at 8:44 AM
100% agreed. I absolutely cannot sympathise with a cast of high schoolers with lives so easy they must play such games (though im sure easy and scarred is the true nature of these kids *rolls eyes*) but with an older cast, I could perhaps buy it.
Either way, I'm interested but apprehensive. It sounds like The Heirs or BOF and not my thing at all.
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Lu
March 13, 2018 at 11:46 AM
Actually I think they are high school students because in the original story (the Book "Les liaisons dangereuses" on which is based the story), it takes place in the 18th or 19th century of France, where 2 bored aristocrats decide to play games with feelings and manipulate other people just to see how interesting it could be. I actually read the book, and it is quite dark. And the characters were all very young in the book (the girl that is the "target" of manipulation was 15 or 16 I think ?).
Maybe that's why they are in high school ? But I agree that if it is like BOF or Heirs, I will definitely not watch it.
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greenfields
March 13, 2018 at 4:50 PM
That's really interesting, thanks. And if thats the case, I do actually wish they had gone with an 'adult' cast. If I'm not mistaken, in 18th and 19th century Europe, there was no 'teenager' and people were considered adults and married off around 15 years?
But the show seems to be going with a college age cast, so I guess its not far off the mark!
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Serendipity
March 14, 2018 at 7:27 PM
In the book the aristocrats are more mature. This drama is loosely based on American movie adaptation of Cruel Intentions which is again loosely based on Des Liaisons Dangerouses.
The characters of CI are teenagers so it has been adapted into a cheabol story.
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Lu
March 15, 2018 at 11:58 AM
Yes I guess you're right that they more likely adapted the drama from the American movie rather than the book. I haven't seen any episode yet (plan to try it out this weekend), so I don't know if the characters will be as mature as in the book, but we'll see :)
@greenfields, yes at that time people were considered adults at 15-16 years old, so maybe they kept the same age range ? But it's true that nowadays you are definitely not an "adult" at 15 ^^ If they go for "college age" as you said, then we may have a good compromise between age and expected maturity.
That's the tricky part when adapting an old story to a modern one: better to keep the age range or the "maturity" of the characters ? Because in either case, it still needs to be believable in the new timeline, with all the new social codes. Anyway, I'll try it and see how they did it :)
marina
March 12, 2018 at 8:50 AM
Totally agree.
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kogamo
March 12, 2018 at 10:01 AM
I was convinced they're going to be college students, but now my expectations went down a lot.
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charredmallow
March 12, 2018 at 10:05 AM
they're going to be college students, but a few scenes in HS since they've just graduated
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Beverly
March 12, 2018 at 5:41 PM
The Cruel Intentions adaptation was HS too, if I remember correctly. Not sure why they choose that age group.
But I have to try it out.
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gerry13
March 12, 2018 at 7:22 PM
Think will be a very safe and bland version of the original Cruel Intentions- just few kisses
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PurpleTeapot
March 12, 2018 at 7:46 PM
I watched a bit of the first episode and they are in the early 20s age range, the high school part is just a setup to introduce the male lead + second leads' relationship.
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sooyi
March 13, 2018 at 3:14 AM
I was thinking the same because I think this drama was announced and had earned a spot on MBC before it even procured a writer, so obviously the execution would not be risky. I think audience is also a factor in the characters' ages since the drama "Heard It Through the Grapevine" featured a highschool couple and they had veiled explicit scenes as it was generally a black comedy about the high society.
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Anna
March 13, 2018 at 7:48 AM
Yeah. This should have been on TVN if they are going to maintain the "darker" theme, as the trailer and promo images depict. I hope they don't cop out and switch half way through, or give us some lame man pain a la Lee Min Ho in The Heirs.
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7 Myfairzack
March 12, 2018 at 8:37 AM
Please tell me they are going to recap this
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Shefali
March 15, 2018 at 6:16 AM
I’m hoping so too!!! I think it is though. (yn)
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8 anonybean
March 12, 2018 at 9:02 AM
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9 UmbrellaMan
March 12, 2018 at 9:06 AM
This is a drama that sounds like it would air on The WB or Freeform. I am intrigued yet scared. I think I will hold off watching until it ends, so as to guarantee its quality.
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UmbrellaMan
March 12, 2018 at 9:08 AM
I just aged myself, I meant The CW. I don't think it has been The WB in forever. Hahahaha
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giocare 🌻💛
March 12, 2018 at 9:11 AM
lmao now i feel old. It didn't occur to me that its no longer called The WB >.<
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10 loveblossom🌸
March 12, 2018 at 9:15 AM
Woo Do Hwan will be a very convincing seducer. He was oozing with charm and sexiness in Mad Dog. Want to check out this drama for him.
Curious to see Kim Min Jae in another drama after his stint on The Best Hit. I've only seen Moon Ga Young in one drama (Live Up To Your Name) where she played an innocent character so I'd like to see her take on a darker role too.
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11 loveblossom🌸
March 12, 2018 at 9:18 AM
This drama also reminds me of The CW's Gossip Girl. Dang, that was years ago. Lol
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12 AG
March 12, 2018 at 9:33 AM
But will Stepsister and Joy make out???
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modestgoddess
March 13, 2018 at 8:26 AM
I hope so
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I do not give six flying dragons
March 13, 2018 at 4:40 PM
That would almost save this thing....
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Flightey Gazelles
March 13, 2018 at 8:20 PM
lol
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13 camillecee
March 12, 2018 at 9:45 AM
I hope you recap this drama.
I just watched it and the cinematography was beautiful. Shihyun, Suji and Sejoo are very electric together. We've only seen a few scenes for Taehee when compared to the trio but you can already tell Joy has improved compared to how she was in The Liar and His Lover. She's literally is the good girl with a hint of "spunk."
Excited to see more of this drama. This is a brewing crack drama for me, and for you.
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modestgoddess
March 13, 2018 at 8:27 AM
Taehee's good girl with spunk character reminds me of Cruel Intentions
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teacakes
March 13, 2018 at 8:58 AM
This one just looks like your regular ~spunky innocent poor girl~ Candy type. Annette was no Candy, she actually had the ability to take a b**** down if she wanted, she looked like a kitten but she had real claws.
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14 missy
March 12, 2018 at 10:55 AM
I have been waiting for this show impatiently. I daresay I'm completely ready to be seduced by WDH. Drama, you better be good!!
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15 Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
March 12, 2018 at 12:02 PM
Tbh, I only have my eyes set on this bc of WDH.
I'll probably only take a peek at it, bc I'm not really sold on the rest of the cast except maybe Kim Min-jae. The other main actors aren't on par with either of them... and the plot reminds me too much of The Heirs, which happens to be one of my most-hated k-dramas
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16 Fariya ahmed Riba
March 12, 2018 at 12:03 PM
Where is the first episode ??
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modestgoddess
March 14, 2018 at 6:35 AM
Viki and Kocowa have it as The tempted
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17 Nessie
March 12, 2018 at 12:26 PM
I wasn't keen at first but seeing the teasers and Woo Do-hwan being a seducer has got me really interested. He really suits the role.
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18 Kurama
March 12, 2018 at 1:33 PM
WDH and MGY have a great chemistry in the first episodes. For Joy, it's hard to say we don't know about her character yet but I really can't stand her voice... It's too childish.
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teacakes
March 12, 2018 at 7:52 PM
I find Joy's way of speaking weird, it's like there's an obstruction that makes her speech unclear.
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Neon
March 12, 2018 at 10:44 PM
Yaasss that's what I'm also thinking till at the moment i wish they end up together happily, which of course it's impossible in this drama
I hope in the next episode Tae hee will convince me more
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19 goldenaddiction
March 12, 2018 at 2:01 PM
Really random: but now I want a charred marshmallow...served by Woo Do-hwan hehe
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20 NiceGuys
March 12, 2018 at 2:03 PM
I just watched some clips from the premiere out of curiosity and my goodness, the male lead is SEXY! Goodness, he just oozes it, I was not ready for all his gazes. I'll be watching this solely for shallow reasons and I'm not ashamed haha.
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charredmallow
March 12, 2018 at 2:12 PM
you should check out save me and mad dog, he's the definition of scene stealer....
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whoopeeyoo
March 12, 2018 at 6:56 PM
I think most of us are watching this for said shallow reasons HAHAHA
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teacakes
March 12, 2018 at 7:57 PM
Watch Mad Dog, he does so much there with just his gaze and he has a female costar who is equally hot (it's not a romance drama though)
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modestgoddess
March 13, 2018 at 8:29 AM
Woo Dohwan is insanely sexy, we got hints of that in Save Me and Mad Dog but not its out of this world. I kept pausing the show to squeal about how hot he is.
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21 PakalanaPikake
March 12, 2018 at 2:15 PM
Thanks for the reminder, GirlFriday!
Woo Do-hwan was terrific in MAD DOG. An alienated, abandoned adoptee who tragically lost the opportunity to reconcile with his biological brother, his metamorphosis into an interdependent and integral member of the Mad Dog team was a beautifully played character arc. The budding romance with his female team mate, as well as the bromances, gradually came to ooze vulnerability and growing trust. I'm interested to see what nuances he brings to the table in this role.
On the other hand, it's not on cable, so I'm skeptical as to how this is actually going to work out on MBC. If it were on tvN, the folks who brought us HYENA way back in 2006(!), I'd be less reserved. Also, these are younger characters who should be paying attention to their studies. (I was totally turned off by the jerk chaebols and all their bullying in BOYS OVER FLOWERS, so never watched past the first episode while listening to Javabeans's and GirlFriday's hilarious play-by-play a la MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000. I was not a member of the target demographic anyway.)
I bet there are more than a few of us MAD DOG fans tuning in and imagining the continuing adventures of Min-joon and Ha-ri. Hehehe. ;-)
* waves to Esteemed Colleagues *
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teacakes
March 12, 2018 at 7:55 PM
The thing about WDH and Ryu Hwa Young in Mad Dog was that she was a costar who could match him in screen presence and sexiness. Their scenes together....I still need to fan myself haha.
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22 Amilia
March 12, 2018 at 2:18 PM
When are the new Weds/Thurs dramas going to start? The Olympics are over. It is so bare in the middle of the week right now.
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23 JustMe
March 12, 2018 at 2:32 PM
Sounds like Boys over Flowers to me :/ anything remotely close to that story turns me off. (Maybe cuz the lead in the original story of BOF almost raped the female lead and the female lead had no personality?) Maybe I'm being harsh on this show as it's completely different, but for some reason Im pessimistic.
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modestgoddess
March 13, 2018 at 8:34 AM
watch Cruel intentions which is an American movie version of the same story. It's much funnier and sassier than BOF.
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modestgoddess
March 13, 2018 at 8:35 AM
also the whole point of the story is seduction, not rape or assault
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24 Sim
March 12, 2018 at 4:45 PM
no one shame me but this ENTIRE TIME I thought the great seducer was a movie???????? I've known about it since Woo Do-hwan was cast and followed the info AND YET? This is the first time I've realized it was a drama :O
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25 Sailor Mars
March 12, 2018 at 8:27 PM
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PakalanaPikake
March 12, 2018 at 10:00 PM
I've switched off my brain to protect it from potential makjang overload. ;-)
I agree that the characters seem to be too young to be so jaded and manipulative, but I'm a mere middle-class mortal and haven't breathed the rarefied air of their privileged existence, so what do I know? It appears that some of the adults are crappy role models, so I'm not surprised that some of the young 'uns are jerks. I'll wait and see how it unfolds.
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yuaski
March 12, 2018 at 10:20 PM
the trio is too mature and twisted for me too, like an overreaction while joy and her friend is more understandable, young adult, has some trouble but still enjoy cake and do their job in school.
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greenfields
March 12, 2018 at 11:00 PM
Nope, the problem is not with you. And I watch a lot of romance. I felt the same while watching this - I mean, surely this is not normal? It wasn't relatable at all. :( I couldn't see why I should care about these characters and their problems.
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Rumi
March 13, 2018 at 6:48 AM
I personally felt that the actors were able to portray the maturity (as well as lack of maturity in certain aspects )of chaebols pretty well and since most of the comments here are comparing this show to BOF (which I am currently watching)- I felt that BOF was waaay too immature and belonged to a different genre altogether and hence I don't think should be compared to this show just on the basis that both have some similarities of being a drama about a bunch of narcissistic high school rich brats.
As for whether characters of that age group are actually supposed to be that way - well surely they are not relatable to me but however it is some on level plausible to me as this is how I perceive "rich brats" to be and besides if people were ok with highschoolers acting in this manner in Cruel Intentions then it's not completely impossible for these chaebols to behave in this manner as well. But then again since I am no chaebol I don't know jack shit about their lifestyle but for some reason I do perceive them this way (which I blame on my gossip girl influences)
I love thrillers but romantic dramas have always been my guilty pleasure and part of the reason as to why I started kdramas in the first place. While this show is said to be a romantic thriller we will just have to wait and watch to what extent they take the level of angst.
As for now,I'm just here for some spicy bad boy-good girl- challenge drama (sue me for living in a world filled with Wattpad book dreams) and of course to see WDH as the ultimate seducer because I think there is no one else who can pull off that role better then him.
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Giegie
March 13, 2018 at 7:03 AM
Hello fellow Wattpad reader! 👋
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Rumi
March 13, 2018 at 7:24 AM
Hello Chingu! Btw can I just say I am a huge fan of Just between lovers and I'm digging your header!
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Giegie
March 13, 2018 at 8:16 AM
You’re a JBL lover too!!! High five! 😍
Thank you! KD & MS are my favorite couple this year.
modestgoddess
March 13, 2018 at 8:42 AM
I agree. As someone that also saw Cruel Intentions, I don't think these 19 year olds are too mature for their age. They are rich kids whose parents are mostly absent and only spoil them financially. They've had a lot of free time to sneak around and get in trouble. I think people are just used to super innocent women in dramas.
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ayomidekdramalover
March 13, 2018 at 10:41 AM
thankyou i felt like this is the first kdrama about rich kids, that they portray them properly. they are not innocent, they have sex, drink, party. thats why i have a feeling that this would be better than the heirs, boys over flowers, Cinderella and the knights, it'll be perfect cus its showing the rough and dangerous aspect of being a teen
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Rumi
March 13, 2018 at 12:51 PM
This is how I view them - shows like BOF and heirs(to an extent) portray high school like how Disney shows portray them - "sugar spice and everything nice" while this show exaggerates high school in a more darker aspect with slight sexual themes and "exposing corporate lifestyle".
While both are not exact representations of what high school is like each have their unique charms and I'm a sucker for shows like these.
Rumi
March 13, 2018 at 12:36 PM
Exactly! And that's what I love -the fact that dramas these days do not shy away from female characters like the ones played by moon ga young (honestly very intrigued by her character-I feel like she is more than just a spoilt butt hurt brat) and while Joy's Tae-hee seems to be a goody-two shoes, I feel like her character has spunk as well which we will be introduced to soon.
Also it would really suck if Tae-hee turns out to be just another gullible girl because then there will be no "dangerous game of seduction" hence ruining the plot.
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I do not give six flying dragons
March 13, 2018 at 5:10 PM
Personal anecdote time here:
I was a bonafide Candy on an elite highschool, (20 years ago baby!), and the daughter of a celebrity on my class had an affair with a foreign teacher.
I saw her on a street on his car, but I didn't say hello, since she didn't talk to no Candys, but the next day she had the first and only conversation of her life with me, (same class for three years), to manipulate me to hush about Dreamy CMstatutory-rape teacher.
I didn't say a word, I didn't need to, he was gone next week.
She was 16!.
My experience with posh? from drugs to partying, promiscuity, (my best friend was making out with 3 different guys on the regular, again, she was 15), or shoplifting everything goes...
Later I went to public schools and this tipe of behavior was unthinkable.
Poor people are not as fearless since we have to face the consecuences by ourselves.
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Rumi
March 13, 2018 at 8:23 PM
I have had sort of similar experience because I just came into acquaintance with someone who is sorta considered a chaebol in the society where I live and so I was given a glimpse into their drugs-booze-sex ridden parties while at my previous school a party was just merely considered to be just hanging out with friends for dinner.
It's interesting that you say that this kind of behavior is unthinkable because from the stereotypes that I have been exposed to about public high school (whether it be from the media or summer school friends) they all seem to say the opposite that they also behave in this manner but the point you made sounds plausible to me as well. It's a new perspective that I have gained.
Also can I just say I'm loving the nickname for the rapist teacher and your display name 👌
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I do not give six flying dragons
March 14, 2018 at 3:00 AM
There is a middle ground. My later friends on my public school were from middle class families and some of them were real geniuses, as in going to the International Mathematical Olympiad, os competing on a european championship on LATIN, or having an official conservatory titulation of piano professor at 18.
I'm not saying they didn't drink or have a joint or two, but they were responsible, (for the most part), because they were informed and educated.
On real low income public schools the story is diferrent, (as told by my teacher friends)
Going back to the show.... Joy is a lackluster representation of an inexperienced honor student. I knew several of those and she cames out as infantilised and dumb.
modestgoddess
March 14, 2018 at 6:58 AM
"Poor people are not as fearless since we have to face the consequences by ourselves."
True, it is a lot easier for the families of rich kids to cover up their mistakes.
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modestgoddess
March 13, 2018 at 8:37 AM
the only thing that seemed unrealistic to me was their ability to break into cars. I just don't see the average teen having that skill, especially not a rich one that isn't part of a crime gang.
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Rumi
March 13, 2018 at 12:30 PM
Well it is still a kdrama after all 😂😂😂
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charredmallow
March 13, 2018 at 12:43 PM
if you see closely she didnt break in herself (soo ji/ga young) she hired someone to break in for her, so at least is not thaaat unrealistic lol
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26 Neon
March 12, 2018 at 9:29 PM
After watching it, i don't know but i the directing seems jumpy so i still can't relate their emotional yet
And i wish MGY character will be like mini Go Hye Ran in misty, end end up with WDW character
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27 PakalanaPikake
March 12, 2018 at 9:39 PM
Well, GirlFriday, after watching the first two episodes with subtitles, I think you already got your wish. Kwon Shi-hyun's heart is already at least caramelized. Give it a while, and it might just end up burnt to a crisp. Silly me, I should have known that with all these chaebol heirs running around, the usual tropes couldn't be far behind. Even so, I like the twist. I'll keep tuning in.
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28 jisungie
March 12, 2018 at 10:32 PM
It's a cringe-fest. Gonna have to ditch it. Sorry Do-hwan sshi, I like you but this drama so not my cup of tea.
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29 kpopcrazymuggle
March 13, 2018 at 3:49 AM
The only time i'll be looking forward to being served a charred and blackened marshmallow :p
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30 sujeongi
March 13, 2018 at 5:41 AM
Not a big fan of chaebol revenge stories, but maybe I could still do it for Woo Do-hwan. (And Kim Min-jae.) Only thing is, I'm fighting off temptations to watch this show while it's still airing, but after going through most of Beanies' comments, I think I'm losing this fight... Charred marshmallows... To be Wooed or not to be Wooed? Wooed now or Wooed later? 🤔🤔
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Goryeo princess
March 13, 2018 at 6:00 AM
I tried to fight the temptation. I lost. haha
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Giegie
March 13, 2018 at 7:04 AM
Give in already. :D
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Anna
March 13, 2018 at 7:57 AM
I definitely tried to resist watching the first episode last night, because I knew I'd just be itching to watch the next one, but that failed. This is going to be a crack drama for sure, so, if you can hold off for a few episodes (good luck! lol), then that'd probably be a good idea.
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sujeongi
March 13, 2018 at 8:47 AM
@goryeoprincess @giegie & Anna
I think... I'll wait a few more episodes. But I'm clutching at straws here. It's only a click away. Aaaaa~ 😣😣😣
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Goryeo princess
March 14, 2018 at 5:40 AM
And it's been subbed pretty quick, so that's another plus point to watch it instead of resisting. it's just like the title: you're TEMPTED and seduced :)
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sujeongi
March 14, 2018 at 12:25 PM
@goryeoprincess @neysarr hahaha, you guise~ luring me into a sweet seducing trap~ aaaaaaaa~ *runs away*
neysarr
March 14, 2018 at 12:28 AM
Give in.. resistance is futile haha
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Goryeo princess
March 14, 2018 at 5:45 AM
Btw, doesn't Woo Do Hwan look like Kim Woo Bin? I love both actors. WDH was espectacular on Mad Dog (I liked the effort of him talking in German!, which I was wondering if they will use that too with him or with the actress playing Soo Ji (Mun Ka Young.... I did a research cause I was impressed with her acting and turned out she was born in Germany... wondering if the PD's will use that in the drama too....language skills I mean. that'd be awesome...and it fist their characters, being rich and all, they're supposed to have a great educational background. Loved also that they made her a musician, being a musician myself!) :) so ...........pretty good for now......
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Goryeo princess
March 14, 2018 at 5:45 AM
typo!!! FITS* not fist !
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Anna
March 14, 2018 at 6:56 AM
Yes! He's a mix of Kim Woo Bin and Seo Kang Joon (I see this especially from his side profile).
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modestgoddess
March 14, 2018 at 7:03 AM
I love Woobin but I don't think he looks like WDH. To me WDH looks like a sexier Seo Kang Joon.
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sujeongi
March 14, 2018 at 12:35 PM
Personally I always thought Woo Do-hwan looks like Woo Do-hwan. But after going through 18274361 photos on Google (I see what you're doing to me, y'all~ 🤣), I think I see some resemblance of Seo Kang-joon (nose and lips! them lips!) and a hint of Kim Woo-bin (eyes?). And then I found this:
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sujeongi
March 14, 2018 at 12:37 PM
https://www.soompi.com/2017/12/16/woo-hwan-talks-resemblance-ryu-jun-yeol-seo-kang-joon/
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31 Nam Joo-hyuk is Tall
March 13, 2018 at 10:24 AM
After the first couple eps, the execution seems a bit sloppy--story is jumpy, pacing is a bit off. But, there were also really great moments and sequences, and it's crazy stylish, so idk maybe the director just needs to settle in a bit.
Acting is great from the trio (haven't seen enough from others). You can see why they like each other, feel their loyalty and compassion even as they lash out cruelly towards others. And we can see how she has those two boys wrapped around her finger. We see so many happy go lucky friend groups in dramas, it's fun to see this darker version.
Woo Do-hwan is the perfect seducer. I mean, he's just plain dynamic. I actually do wish they'd gone a little more charred on this marshmallow. He's kind of an ass, but we've already seen that he is a decent person and can even be kind. They made it easy to sympathize with him, what with his notDad. Also, the fact that he chose to give attention to the older mom and how that tied in and connected to his pain from losing his own mom was a bit twisted but I liked that they went there.
We've seen a lot of these themes before, but I appreciate the more adult take. It makes perfect sense to me that these rich kids would be more socially and sexually mature than their peers while also being more emotionally immature and stunted. Bring it all on.
I can see Joy and WDH having crackling chemistry. I think WDH could have chemistry with a bagel, but still.
One of those shows that I like despite (or because of) its flaws, so I'm excited to see where this goes.
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kaylaa
March 13, 2018 at 12:19 PM
I agree with you & am super excited to see WDH and Joy's chemistry. The little screen time they did have together (cute bus scene) Joy really came to life. Joy may not be the best actress (and she's far from being the worst) but at least she has chemistry with her male leads. She had good chemistry with LHW in Liar & his Lover but it seems like she will have even better chemistry with WDH.
P.S. For those saying WDH and the veteran actors/actresses carried the drama so far like, what? Are we even watching the same drama? Or are ya'll somehow watching this drama from the future and already have access to future eps? For the amount of screen time everyone has had, I would say it's fair to say they are all carrying their own weight so far. Need more eps to come out before judgement can be made.
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modestgoddess
March 14, 2018 at 7:09 AM
About him giving attention to the older mom at the club, I think he approached her cause she was sad and older. He just wants to comfort older women. Yeah he's got mommy issues. He also flirted with his teacher.
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32 ayomidekdramalover
March 13, 2018 at 10:37 AM
watched the first episode and almost died, the production level was amazing, acting amazing, everything was perfect
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33 Marion
March 13, 2018 at 10:38 AM
Hey Girlfriday!!
Any plans on recapping this drama?
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canxi
March 13, 2018 at 4:17 PM
Saaaame question!! I really hope someone picks it up. T___T
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34 catzed
March 13, 2018 at 3:27 PM
I hope DB picks this one up!
I've watched the first 4 ep and it's really shaping out to be a crack drama. Yeah, the editing can be choppy and I skipped past some of the confrontations with the world's worst, richest parents, but the acting's great so far (Joy's improved! WDH's killing it!) and the main trio's friendship is so adorable! Even when they're angsty and bleeding... But it's not all melodrama, since Ep 4 made me laugh, pause, and rewind once WDH started his "seduction."
It's been a while since I've been itching to watch the next eps of a drama, so hopefully TGS will bring more put-together directing and more WDH stumbling to woo Joy.
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35 canxi
March 13, 2018 at 4:14 PM
Yesss I am so excited honestly. Those teasers sold me and I'm looking forward to it. And y'all, it doesn't have to be on tvN to go there. Remember this is the same broadcasting station that gave us Que Sera Sera which is still my makjang to end all makjangs lol.
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36 Magicspices
March 13, 2018 at 6:35 PM
lol! can't wait for a charred marshmallow with a blackened heart
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37 iaintgotnoname
March 13, 2018 at 7:16 PM
saw the first episode i was almost paralyzed by the cringe level...hope you all have some thick skin
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38 izzyhart
March 13, 2018 at 8:51 PM
I have this session in which I watch drama randomly, and stumbled upon this drama. Now I know why I felt like this drama have some common vibes with Cruel Intentions.
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39 sweetsour
March 13, 2018 at 9:40 PM
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neysarr
March 14, 2018 at 12:37 AM
"I can take the cringe with the sexy"
Yes. THIS! I hope I'll last through this drama with this mentality in mind hahaha
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40 kdramaship
March 13, 2018 at 11:20 PM
After seeing the teasers i get the feeling that the look and behaviourof the characters are based on the American series, Gossip Girl. Specially the other guy who completes the trio reminds me of Chuck Bass in his appearance.
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Miky
March 14, 2018 at 1:47 PM
Indeed,Min Jae gives such Chuck Bass vibes,must be the hair and all but he freaking resembles him soooo much!
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kdramaship
March 14, 2018 at 11:59 PM
Yes, the hair and the suits he wears. These three are so impeccably dressed when not in school uniforms!
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41 Dordorky
March 13, 2018 at 11:41 PM
I just started this drama because I keep hearing all this buzz about Woo Do Hyun. And he definitely did not disappoint. Is this considered a Makjang drama? As someone who usually sticks to slow pace/slice of life/coming of age dramas, this one's really fast paced for me. The camerawork, the plotlines, the intense emotions.... But thankfully, the last part of episode 4 where Tae Hee and Si hyun meet again seem to coming to a slower pace. Hopefully, the story can take its sweet time here to build their relationship. I do like the friendship between the three but the intensity of their family background is throwing me off. This drama is outside my comfort zone but I am definitely willing to give it a few more episodes after seeing a snippet of Tae Hee and Doo Hyun's interaction. Doo Hyun's definitely talented and incredibly good looking. I haven't seen any of Joy's work and know she is relatively new, but I think she's doing a pretty decent job. I want to see her keep him on his toes as his usual antics clearly don't work for her.
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42 neysarr
March 14, 2018 at 12:35 AM
Good Lord WDH is 🔥🔥🔥 When he begins his seduction in ep 4 is cute but yes this will definitely be a crack makjang drama lol since it's not only the children that are problematic but we're getting a group of cray parents as well.
Seeing that Joy's character has some angst towards her mum gives me hope that she's not that gullible.
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
March 14, 2018 at 4:18 PM
That bus scene in ep4 gave me hope that Tae-hee is no gullible girl. Besides, she has been fending for herself for many years so it means she's also streetsmart. Yes, I hope Show keeps it that way. 🙏🙏🙏
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neysarr
March 15, 2018 at 12:15 AM
Also they described Tae-hee as "Ice Queen" in the teasers, so let's hope she gives Si-hyun a hard time seducing her. But since it's on MBC, I'm not expecting the "dark" concept to last very long *sigh*
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43 Sweetsammy
March 14, 2018 at 1:47 AM
This kinda reminds me of that movie starring reese witherspoon and the other actress from buff the vanpire slayer.... same sorta storyline except the guy dies and gal drives around in a car after a much needed payback.. anyone know this movie
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Giegie
March 14, 2018 at 2:22 AM
Cruel Intentions, mentioned in the above article. :)
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Serendipity
March 14, 2018 at 7:33 PM
CI is loosely based on Choderlos de Laclos' classic novel Des Liaisons Dangerouses (1782)
TGS is a loose adaptation of another loose adaptation.
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Sweetsammy
March 14, 2018 at 10:57 PM
Oh so that's the movie! I racked my brains but just couldn't place a finger on the name. Thanks!
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modestgoddess
March 14, 2018 at 7:19 AM
this show and Cruel Intentions have the same source material, the book Dangerous Liaisons.
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Sweetsammy
March 14, 2018 at 10:57 PM
Got it now!! Thanks!
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44 mistblu7
March 14, 2018 at 3:23 AM
ok first of all , i am so loving it.. but seriously hoping it wont be a sad ending like from the american movie and the novel..
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klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
March 14, 2018 at 4:15 PM
Same here!
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Serendipity
March 14, 2018 at 7:29 PM
Then it would be a usual makjang K-Drama with birth secrets.
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45 urnaa
March 14, 2018 at 9:28 AM
I liked what i saw. I think this drama is gonna be one of fave like Heirs.
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46 klurker 🐙 Dora-Momo makes me wish I was young again
March 14, 2018 at 4:15 PM
I hope WDH doesn't die in the end. You hear that,
Show? Marshmallows don't die. They get *cough* eaten *cough*. 😝 K bye!
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lemoncello
March 14, 2018 at 9:48 PM
Yep. The same big HOPE as in "Save Me" when all of us were afraid he might die at the end... :)
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47 Serendipity
March 14, 2018 at 7:28 PM
This drama is loosely based on the movie Cruel Intentions which was actually based again loosely on 1782 classic novel,Des Liaisons Dangerouses by Choderlos de Laclos which is about the darker wickedness of human soul,a story of seduction and revenge...not something to be toyed with or K-Dramatized. The depth,the sexuality cannot be portrayed within the limitations of a K-Drama. The real characters are much more mature but this cast and the characters are too young, a more versatile and seasoned actor like Yoo Ah In would have been a much better choice for the main lead.
Wrong project,bad script,choppy edition and bad directing,sorry.
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kiara
March 14, 2018 at 7:48 PM
I'm glad Yeo Jin-goo declined. When I came to my senses I realized that his talents alone is not going to cut it. He needs 10 more years to be convincing.
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48 zzthorn
March 14, 2018 at 9:24 PM
After watching the first episodes of this drama I decided to pass on it. There wasn't really anything about the characters that found worth getting to know more. In fact I disliked them quite a bit. I don't often have much sympathy for poor little ultra rich kids and this obnoxious trio of spoiled whiners is no exception. This one is not for me.
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49 shai
March 14, 2018 at 11:19 PM
YAS! I finally found my oasis for this drama. I have been seeing so much negativity and it really annoyed me because I really enjoyed the first 4 episodes. It's my crack drama currently despite the sloppy writing and editing. All that teenage angst is my kryptonite. LOL. Thank you to beanies for being neutral and appreciative! :) I hope DB covers this drama!
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50 Krispykremer
March 14, 2018 at 11:29 PM
I just finished watching the first four episodes, and I'm surprised. I'm still a bit conflicted on this drama but I'll have to say that the chemistry between this cast isn't phenomenal. Logically speaking, some aspects of this drama don't make sense, but if you can turn off your brain a little then it should be fine. I saw people critisizing Joy's acting so I expected it be really bad, but I actually thought her acting was decent.
One thing that SUPER bothers me about this drama though is the editing. I feel as though the flashback jumps are a bit...choppy? Also as a classical pianist, the music is KILLING me. It seems so hysterically over dramatic at some points. It's literally "cue the violins".
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kdramaship
March 15, 2018 at 12:08 AM
I haven't watched it yet apart from the trailer and the clips on my Instagram feed, but I get the feeling this drama is all about looks – the good looking actors, the glamorous sets, the beautiful clothes and so on… pretty much on the lines of American teen dramas about spoilt rich brats who have the time and energy to orchestrate elaborate revenge plots, basically the American verison of Kdrama makjang! I am just going to stick watching the bits that pop up on my Instagram feed and try and watch something from my ever growing drama list!
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sal
March 15, 2018 at 5:09 AM
I did like american teen drama one time when they was about normal teen. but then they started to be more about their party life and scandalous behavior so i did not relate to them anymore and turned away from them.
In this show it seems to be under the surface more dept in the trios life then their party life. beside our lead man do seem to have some good trait that i think our lead girl gonna bring out of him and make him rethink his playboy lifestyle. consider this is kdrama the show gonna start focusing on the main lead and their romance from now on, and this gonna be a tale of shi-hyun growing up and his redemption. so I think this is not gonna be your typical posh american teen drama even though first week allured to that.
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