Black: Episode 10
by odilettante
There’s a frisson of tingling excitement when you realize a script has been thoughtfully and painstakingly crafted, where every detail matters and will have meaning in the end. Black might have started as an unassuming, confusing mess of a show, but all those seemingly unrelated plot-threads are now being expertly woven into an intricate tapestry of intrigue and wonder.
EPISODE 10 RECAP
Black confronts Moo-gang’s mother with the photo of Joon and Moo-gang. Mom tells him that it’s a photo of him and his older brother, who died a few days later in a hit-and-run accident, although the driver who hit Joon was never caught.
Mom calls Joon, “Moo-chan,” explaining that “Joon” was the name given to him by his birth mother, but when he moved with them to Seoul, he decided to make a new start by changing his name to fit his birth father’s family.
Before Mom married Moo-gang’s father, he’d had a tryst with Joon’s mother, resulting in Joon’s birth. Mom and her husband had agreed to take care of Joon when his mother couldn’t, presumably when she was sent to jail. Moo-gang’s mother explains that Joon and Moo-gang were very close, only one year apart, and Joon always looked after Moo-gang. After Joon died, Moo-gang wore the red bracelet Ha-ram made as a way to honor his brother.
Black ponders over everything Moo-gang’s mother has told him, wondering what Ha-ram will do when she finds out that Joon actually died years ago. He quickly hides the photograph when Ha-ram arrives at his home, lugging a guitar case.
It’s the guitar that Joon left with her before he moved Seoul. She wants him to play it again, right now, and Black stutters that he’s forgotten, y’know, because of that whole memory loss thing. Ha-ram’s convinced he must still have some muscle memory, but Black’s relieved when the case seems to be locked and it won’t open.
That doesn’t stop Ha-ram, who tries to break it open with a screw driver. Thankfully for Black’s lack of musical skills, she’s distracted when she notices that Black doesn’t have a scar on his hand, one that Joon got while living in Mujin. Black tries to shoo Ha-ram out, but she sees him hiding the photo. Assuming it’s a pornographic picture, she teasingly tries to take it from him, but he holds it out of reach, unwilling to have her learn that Joon is actually dead.
In the morning, the detectives get word that the prosecutor has refused their request for an arrest warrant for Sang-min, which means he’s now released. They’re not happy, but they’re unable to stop Royal Group’s power and influence. Man-ho’s been busy calling in favors, using his political connections with a senator to help clear Sang-min’s name.
Black scoffs as he watches the news report that Sang-min regrets his actions, and the prosecution doesn’t think he would be a flight risk, which is why they let him return home.
Man-soo sees his brother and nephew arrive at the house, free from consequence, and he becomes more determined to find proof that Man-ho tried to have him killed. Man-soo realizes that Black was actually a witness of the attempted-murder.
When Man-soo asks him what he remembers happened that night, Black insists he didn’t see anything. It’s not like he could have followed the potential killer, anyway; not with the way Man-soo had his legs wrapped around Black’s body. Ha, I love the way Black flounces out, flipping his blazer back as though it’s his Reaper-like long trench coat. Man-soo’s still confused, though, because he’s confident he saw Black reaching for the killer that night.
Black arrives at the police station in time to see Kwang-kyun being yelled at for attacking a prosecutor. Wait, did Kwang-kyun actually bite the prosecutor? Pffft. Looks like “Crazy Dog” and his anger issues are not reacting well to the news of Sang-min’s release. Black’s primary concern, though, is for someone to teach him how to use social media.
Man-soo returns home, although he doesn’t stay in his room for long because Man-ho’s security guys drag him back outside where Man-ho’s practicing his golf swing. Uh-oh. Man-ho says that Man-soo should have better manners than to accuse his own brother of trying to kill him, but Man-soo breaks free from the bodyguards’s grasp to punch Man-ho in the face. Yes!
In return, Man-ho has one of his men bring Sip-gyeong out. He mockingly calls the dog “a witness,” asking Sip-gyeong if he saw Man-ho try to kill Man-soo. Man-ho brings up the golf club as if to hit Sip-gyeong, and Man-soo drops to his knees, begging for forgiveness, pleading with Man-ho to hit him instead of his dog.
As if Man-ho needs an invitation to beat up Man-soo, which he does, repeatedly. Man-ho is furious that Man-soo didn’t at least stay quiet if he wasn’t going to take the blame for Sang-min’s attack on Tiffany. Sip-gyeong breaks free from his leash and attacks Man-ho, biting at the man’s leg, which only makes Man-ho turn his anger on the dog. Man-ho beats Sip-gyeong to death with his golf club.
Man-soo, in pain from his own beating and stunned by Sip-gyeong’s brutal demise, is unable to resist as Man-ho makes Man-soo sign a waiver, declaring he’ll give up his Royal Group inheritance. Ugh, Man-ho is officially the worst, especially since he dips Man-soo’s thumb in Sip-gyeong’s blood in lieu of an ink pad.
Watching from upstairs is an amused Sang-min, who tells a friend over the phone that Korea is a great place to be if you’re a underage chaebol with criminal tendencies — you’re not held accountable for any of your actions, especially when you have a father who can pull some strings and get you off the hook. Sang-min then promises his friend to hook him up with marijuana later, laughing that everyone believes the story that he mistook a cigarette for weed.
Later, Sang-min wakes up in the middle of the airport. It looks like he’s trying to flee the country, which is a big no-no since he’s still under investigation. Even worse, marijuana — and illegal substance in Korea — is found in his suitcase. It’s impossible for Man-ho to cover for his son now, especially since footage of Sang-min’s bragging phone call has gone viral.
Netizens speculate that whomever leaked the video of Sang-min’s phone call must also be the same person who released the photos of Byung-shik, and they’re not wrong. Black used his teleportation ability to get inside Sang-min’s room, and then secretly filmed the conversation (which is why he needed someone to show him how to post it online).
Black then took Sang-min to the airport, planting the marijuana he found in Sang-min’s room in the suitcase. The vigilante hero for justice strikes again.
On his way to work, Man-soo sees a woman silently protesting about the unfair treatment of her son, who seems to have died. The woman is actually Man-soo’s birth mother, and Man-soo remembers going to her house as a young boy, begging to live with her instead of with his birth father. Even back then, Man-soo was scared of Man-ho.
But Man-soo’s birth motherforcefully telling him that she’s no longer his mother and that’s she’s pregnant with another child. Aw, baby Man-soo even has a puppy, which is the wrong breed if it is supposed to represent a baby Sip-gyeong, but at least it shows that dogs were likely the only loyal family Man-soo’s ever had.
Joseon and Hip-hop hilariously teleport their way out of a manhole. Not so hilarious is their next reaping assignment: Man-soo’s birth mother.
Man-ho is not only annoyed that his son’s scandal means bad press for Royal Group, but that Man-soo has actually managed to turn Royal Insurance around and is making a profit. Man-ho stubbornly insists on selling the insurance company, anyway, and then orders work to continue on building the Royal Group mall.
The mall has been on hold since Man-ho is building it on the same site as the Mujin mall collapse, and the protestors have been interfering. But he orders the crew to get to work, anyway.
Moo-gang’s mother calls the “Mujin Mom” — who’s actually Joon’s birth mother — asking to meet. She tells Joon’s mother about Moo-gang’s accident and how he’s lost his memory, then asks her to avoid talking to Moo-gang. She already blames Joon’s mother for being the reason Moo-gang left his job in America to become a detective in Korea. She doesn’t want Joon’s mother bothering Moo-gang anymore.
Joseon and Hip-hop patiently follow Man-soo’s birth mother as she meets with a doctor at a coffee shop, believing her son, Kyung-soo, died unfairly. Hip-hop wonders how Man-soo’s mother will die, until Joseon reminds him that Reapers aren’t supposed to show pity. Hip-hop agrees, admitting he’s always wanted to be like the cold-hearted and ruthless Black — well, at least until Black’s recent discovery of human emotions.
Black finds the two Reapers at the coffee shop. He clues them in about the half-brother relationship between Moo-gang and Joon, and Joseon’s delighted that it sounds exactly like the plot to a drama. Hee! Black is annoyed that he’s not in Joon’s body, though. He assumes that if Ha-ram figures out it’s actually Moo-gang’s body, Ha-ram won’t want to keep helping him since Moo-gang isn’t her first love.
Hahaha, it’s hilarious that he’s having this expressive discussion with Joseon and Hip-hop, but to all the human eyes around them, it looks like he’s talking to thin air. Hip-hop reminds him that with the missing capsule, Black is supposed to stay close to Ha-ram. Black, annoyed that he forgot about that, immediately teleports to her apartment.
Ha-ram’s not home, and neither does she answer his phone. Black’s annoyance fades away when he sees the stone she found tossed aside in his yard. It’s the stone that she used to trip over but he had removed. She’s drawn his face on it, much to his amusement, until he realizes that it’s not really his face, but Moo-gang’s.
Black stares into the mirror, wishing that he had a face of his own.
Aw, it turns out that Moo-gang’s chief actually took a pay cut as punishment for Kwang-kyun’s “Crazy Dog” actions. Missing-finger’s dirty detective taunts the chief for his ramshackle team taking on Sang-min’s case, knowing it will only cause them trouble. But the chief staunchly stands up for his team, insisting that Sang-min attacked Moo-gang — one of their own — so of course they couldn’t let anyone else investigate it.
Black teleports into one of the stalls, but stays put to eavesdrop as the dirty detective warns the chief that going against Royal Group will only end in disaster, since Man-ho is backed by a powerful senator who is on track to become the next president of Korea. The chief doesn’t care, though — he’ll take on the entire Blue House if it means defending his men.
Black exists the stall in a cheerful mood, bewildering both So-tae and the chief as Black expresses his appreciation for them (still in a very arrogant Black-like manner, of course, yet still somehow adorable nonetheless).
The Royal Group construction crew hits buried steel beams as they excavate for the mall’s foundation. When they move the beams, they’re shocked and horrified to discover a long-buried body.
Joseon and Hip-hop continue to follow Man-soo’s birth mother, and Hip-hop can’t stop worrying about how she’ll die. He suggests they ask Black to have Ha-ram take a look at the Shadow and see if there’s a way to save the woman’s life. Joseon firmly points out that Hip-hop that he’s not exactly acting like a Reaper right now.
Hip-hop’s body suddenly starts to turn into a black cloud. With fear in his eyes, Hip-hop asks Joseon what’s going on.
Ha-ram arrives at Royal Group, but the entrance is blocked by a security team as Congressman Kim gives a press conference, declaring that Royal Group should reveal what really happened with Byung-sik and Mujin mall.
The protesters, fired up by his speech, rush to the office building, demanding to meet with Man-ho, but the security team holds them back.
Ha-ram still manages to get overrun by the protestors, dropping her bag — which includes the photo of Seung-chul with his parents. Black finds her there and helps her get back on her feet. One of the protestors gets a call that a body was found at the construction site, and they all hurry to the hospital to find out which of the missing students has now been found.
Ha-ram follows, thinking the body might be Seung-chul’s.
Kwang-kyun interrogates Tiffany’s boss who used to work at the Singing Pumpkin, although he’s perhaps more interested in what she knew about Clara than about Jin-sook. The woman tells him that Clara actually ran away with Jin-sook twenty years ago, taking all of the Singing Pumpkin money with them.
After Clara and Jin-sook arrived in Seoul, they parted ways, so the woman doesn’t know what happened. She does know that there was another girl who went with them — Seon-young.
Soo-wan is still alive, but only because she’s promised to help Missing-finger find the video tape. She thought it was hidden in Moo-gang’s secret room, but Missing-finger knows that’s not the case since he was the one who ransacked it, and it wasn’t there. Soo-wan promises to find the tape for him if he lets her go.
Missing-finger agrees to let her go, warning her that if she tries anything funny, then he’ll cut off all her limbs. Coming from anyone else, that would seem like an exaggerated empty threat, but I’m pretty sure Missing-finger actually means it.
Kwang-kyun’s on the hunt for the mysterious Seon-young. As he flips through Mujin high school’s old record books, he notices that a page is missing. The administrator remembers that Moo-gang had asked about the same thing, which makes Kwang-kyun realize that Moo-gang was looking into Seon-young at least month before his accident.
The forensic doctors identify the newly discovered body — it’s Hyun-soo, one of the Mujin students that had been missing in the mall collapse and Seung-chul’s rap-loving friend. As Hyun-soo’s anguished parents cling to each other, Hip-hop stands in front of Joseon, bewildered that his Reaper body has changed to that of a middle school boy. Joseon explains that Hip-hop’s true self must have finally been found — Hip-hop is actually Hyun-soo.
Ha-ram is a little disappointed that the body wasn’t Seung-chul’s, but since she’s already in Mujin, she decides to visit his parent’s urns and leave the photo of them with their son.
Black gives her some privacy, wandering around the columbarium until his eye catches a familiar face — Kim Joon, smiling from a photograph next to his urn. Joon’s mother is visiting, too, and she’s surprised to see Moo-gang. He doesn’t recognize her, even though she calls him by name.
Joon’s mother finds it strange that Moo-gang was there visiting Joon’s ashes even though he supposedly doesn’t have any memory of Joon. Ha-ram calls out for Black, calling him “Joonie Oppa” (which also confuses Joon’s mother, making her wonder if she’s heard correctly). Black smootly blocks Ha-ram’s way so she can’t see Joon’s urn.
Kwang-kyun is suspicious about Moo-gang’s off-the-books investigation, wondering what it was that made an accountant from America decide to become a Seoul detective, especially when Moo-gang didn’t have the stomach for it (literally).
Soo-wan is back in her apartment, and she opens up a suitcase holding Moo-gang’s old blood-stained clothes. Her voice catches with emotion as she says it would have been better if they had never met.
A flashback shows Soo-wan at the columbarium, where she overhears Moo-gang, having recently arrived from America, apologizing to his hyung for taking so long to visit him. Moo-gang promises to visit Joon again, and leaves without noticing Soo-wan.
Later, Moo-gang is stabbed in the gut while working on a case, and Soo-wan ends up being the ER doctor attending to him. Moo-gang eventually comes up with more and more ridiculous reasons to be admitted to the ER just to see Soo-wan, who gradually begins to anticipate his visits. That brings them to the moment where Moo-gang tells her that his chest is bothering him, and he presses Soo-wan’s hand over his heart so she can feel it beating.
In the present day, Soo-wan starts to cry as she wishes she had treated Moo-gang coldly back then, so that none of this would have happened. She resolutely shuts the suitcase containing Moo-gang’s belongings.
Ha-ram returns home to find her mother waiting for her. Even though Ha-ram refuses to discuss it, Mom knows that Ha-ram saw a Shadow by her stepfather. Mom pleads with Ha-ram to help prevent her stepfather from dying because he’s the only one with matching bone marrow to Ha-ram’s stepbrother, who’s dying of leukemia. That’s news to Ha-ram.
Showing off the injuries she’s received from saving Tiffany’s life, Ha-ram angrily asks if Mom is more interested in saving a boy that’s not even her flesh-and-blood instead of being concerned about her biological daughter. Ha-ram slams the door behind her as she enters her apartment, where she tries her best to not think about her dying stepbrother.
But it’s to no avail, because she eventually finds herself in the cancer ward, cautiously watching her stepbrother sleep. There’s clearly a Shadow next to him. Reluctantly, Ha-ram decides to at least look at her stepfather’s Shadow.
Meanwhile, Kwang-kyun gets more information about Clara’s skeleton. There was a small trace of arsenous acid in her teeth, which is odd because the acid, once used in dyes and other preservatives, was outlawed in 1986.
Kwang-kyun thinks it’s strange that an illegal substance that’s no longer used was found on a body that was buried twenty years ago, until he discovers that there was an industrial dye factory that had been illegally using the acid. The factory was shut down in 1996, and no surprise where that factory was located: Mujin.
Ha-ram’s tracked down her stepfather to a temp labor office, where, desperate for money, he’s begged his way into being hired as part of a group to intimidate protesters. Ha-ram grows worried when she realizes that more than one of the men in that group have a Shadow following them.
Black, despite his frustration that Ha-ram never seems to stay safe at home, has been patiently waiting outside for Ha-ram. When she asks if he brought his car, without hesitation he tells her to follow him. Aw, maybe he’s finally figuring out that it’s pointless telling her what to do and instead should just accept that she’s going to try and save lives, no matter what.
Hyun-soo’s parents officially grieve for their dead son. Hyun-soo watches them, tears in his eyes as he tells Joseon that he remembers everything that happened leading up to his death — from ignoring young Ha-ram’s desperate warning not to go the movie theatre until the moment the mall suddenly collapsed, trapping him and Seung-chul under a beam.
Despite both boys being afraid and in pain, Seung-chul confidently told Hyun-soo that the adults would find them and save them. Hyun-soo cried, confessing that the last thing he told his mother was to stop trying to make him eat breakfast that morning. Seung-chul reassuringly told his friend that they’ll survive and he’ll be able to eat breakfast every day for the rest of his life.
Just then, the boys scream as the rest of the building collapsed, fatally crushing them.
Sobbing, Hyun-soo asks Joseon why he wasn’t able to remember who he was until just now, and why he thought he was a pure-born Reaper. Joseon tells him that he’s actually a “missing person.”
Joseon explains that missing people aren’t in their natural human form as Reapers, because their bodies are buried somewhere that no one has yet found. But once their bodies are found, then they turn into their true selves and regain their memories.
Hyun-soo asks about his Reaper number, 416, and Joseon confirms that the number correlates to the day that he died: April 16th. Weeping, Hyun-soo watches his grieving parents, wondering how they got so old.
Kwang-kyun enters the old dye factory, searching around until he sees a bottle of arsenous acid. That’s enough to confirm his theory that Clara was killed here, and he imagines her body on the floor. All this time he thought she had run away from him, but now he knows she was murdered.
Ha-ram and Black follow the thug-for-hire vans, wondering why they’re headed to Mujin. Kwang-kyun sees Moo-gang’s car and speeds to follow, cutting them off and forcing Black out of the car. Kwang-kyun demands Black tell him everything he knows about Clara’s death, but Black’s has no idea what he’s talking about.
Black opens Clara’s file, shocked to see his old Reaper partner’s face staring back at him in the “before” photo of Clara’s gender change surgery. Bewildered, Black doesn’t understand how a pure-blood Reaper could have the face of someone who was human. A flashback shows his old partner, staring sadly and longingly at Kwang-kyun, who was overseeing the scene were the Truck of Doom killed Ha-ram’s ex-boyfriend.
Hyun-soo realizes that Black’s old partner was a missing person, but turned into his original form when Clara’s skeleton was found. Hyun-soo wonders if Clara went to heaven, but Joseon sadly says that the sins of those who abuse and toy with children are never forgotten.
Hyun-soo wonders where he’ll end up, and Joseon reassures him he’ll join all his friends in heaven. Hyun-soo then asks if Black is also a missing person, and Joseon solemnly says that he is.
The Mujin mall protestors stand on the construction site for Royal Group’s mall, shouting that the construction should stop. Pouring out of the black vans are the thugs-for-hire, who immediately start beating up the protestors.
It’s chaos as the thugs kick and batter the protestors, and Ha-ram rushes in, trying to pull her stepfather away.
But all Ha-ram can do is look around and see the multitude of Shadows. The Reapers all stand around, patiently waiting to reap the souls that will die in the skirmish. Black runs after Ha-ram and dives into the fray, fighting off the thugs and shielding Ha-ram with his body.
From their rooftop vantage point, Hyun-soo and Joseon watch the battle unfold down below. Hyun-soo wonders where Black’s body is buried. Joseon doesn’t know, adding that from now on, that’s something Black must discover on his own.
COMMENTS
Ooof. What an amazing yet gut-wrenching episode. When we first discovered that pure-blood Reapers were actually missing people, I immediately thought of Clara, wondering what happened to her when her skeleton was discovered — but I wasn’t expecting that. I had totally forgotten about Black’s original partner and the strange, melancholy way he acted during his last reaping assignment. The longing way he gazed back at all the people frantic in the street made me think he wanted to stay a little longer in the human world, but I couldn’t figure out why — now I know. Even though Clara may be in hell, enduring the punishment for dragging children into her ring of prostitution, at least she got to have one last look at the love her of life. Sniffle, sniffle.
I actually love the concept of the “missing people,” since it essentially confirms that Black is Joon. Based on the beginning of the show where Black dove into the water and found the skeleton in the car, wondering if it was really him, I think we all can guess where Joon’s missing body is hidden. Where Joon’s body was not, however, was on the road after that hit-and-run case. If that were really him, he wouldn’t be a missing person, and Black wouldn’t currently exist. I’m not sure why the lies and cover up, but I’m sure that will solved in due time.
I’m still puzzling over the Reaper numbering convention, though. I understand the logic of numbering them based on their date of death, but what kind of date is 444? For that matter, what kind of date is Joseon’s 007 (and where has his body been missing all these hundreds of years)? Unless, of course, it’s not a Gregorian date, which I will accept, but I am expecting an explanation eventually since this writer isn’t the type to have such lazy mistakes. There does seem to be some importance about the dates, however. Based on Hyun-soo’s number, the Mujin mall collapsed on April 16th, Clara was killed on April 19th, and Joon was reportedly found dead on the road on the 20th (according to the date on his urn). That’s a lot to happen in one week. Not that it all had to have happened in the same week of the same year, but April seems to be a pretty, ah, killer month.
This also confirms my suspicion that the Mujin mall collapse is a thinly disguised representation of the Sewol ferry disaster, where hundreds of people — particularly school children — lost their lives on April 16th, 2014. Hearing Seung-chul reassure Hyun-soo that they should just wait for the adults to save them was eerily reminiscent of the way the ferry victims apparently stayed put and waited, as instructed, instead of trying to escape. It also brings the impact of the fictional Mujin mall collapse into greater focus, since if it’s supposed to represent such a shocking tragedy like the Sewol ferry, then it’s no wonder that families are protesting the construction corruption all these years later.
Even though I really loved getting a deeper explanation of how the Reaper world works (despite not fully understanding it yet), my favorite part of the episode was watching Ha-ram wrestle with the dilemma of helping her stepfather in order to save her stepbrother. She’s been willing to do nearly anything to save a stranger’s life, only to stubbornly refuse when she’s confronted with saving someone who actually means something to her — and someone who she believes has made her life a living hell. I enjoyed watching her struggle with her inner conflict of not wanting to help someone she hates, but knowing that her intervention could save the life of an innocent child (who still means something to her, despite her protests that they’re not related).
No matter her parentage or what her ability to see Death says about her, Ha-ram is still totally human, with all the petty, selfish desires that come with it — but she also has an altruistic streak where she doesn’t want to see the innocent get hurt, not if she can possibly help prevent it. That’s what makes her such a likable heroine to me. She’s not perfect, and sometimes she makes things worse, but she refuses to give up on that hope that she might be able to save someone, no matter how afraid or unsure she might be. That, to me, is a true hero: “I don’t know what I’m doing, but I know I have to do something!”
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1 eva
November 16, 2017 at 7:47 PM
I agree with you that the show could have made a much better start, instead of the chaotic mess we were given a the beginning. But so glad that every piece has its place in the final puzzle and we are getting closer and closer to that final picture. This writer is noted for her extremely tight-knit plot, and I have every confidence that everything is well-planned and has a purpose at the end.
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xiao jingyan
November 16, 2017 at 9:27 PM
I think the start is great cause it's intended to be a mess.
It's a glimpse of their word and the show asked us to unravel in together with 444 and Haram
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mooninpisces
November 18, 2017 at 8:10 AM
I didn’t find the beginning to be a confusing mess either. In fact, I rather enjoyed not knowing what to expect. It’s refreshing.
Bring on all the twists and turns. I’m in it for the ride.
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2 nerdy
November 16, 2017 at 7:49 PM
RIP Sip-Gyeong. For some reason, scenes like that are a lot more harder to watch, than the ones with beating/killing people
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meowingme
November 16, 2017 at 8:24 PM
Second this! Fast-forwarded this scene coz I can't take it, huhu. Am so sad show killed the only one standing by Man-soo's side...
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bizzybody
November 16, 2017 at 8:34 PM
Esp since he dies trying to save his human bro
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mooninpisces
November 18, 2017 at 8:13 AM
I really hope some where down the line, Man-Ho gets what should be coming to him karmically.
Perhaps a three-headed cerebus can use him as a new chew toy.
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3 eva
November 16, 2017 at 7:51 PM
That scene where Black and Haram playfully fought with each other to get the photograph is such a Kdrama-cliche that I was worried that it would end up with both looking wistfully and longingly into each other's eyes. Luckily all Black had in his mind was him feeling sorry for Haram now that Joon was dead.
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4 Napkiin
November 16, 2017 at 8:04 PM
I dare to say 444 is definitely Joon, and I suspect that his body was never found that's why he has no idea he is Joon (also no face). I think Moo Gang's mom planned Joon's death so she can use Joon's heart to be transplanted to Moo Gang's, then she used Joon's best friend dead body as a cover up pretending its Joon's body. Joon's birth mom probably suspected her son's death and told Moo Gang, that's why he came back to become a cop.
At this point I want to know what 444 means since it's not related to the dates, besides the fact it's ironic even called that for a grim reaper (4 means death in Korean). 007 feels like he knows everything, is he the Jade Emperor in disguise?? Hah.
I can't believe Clara is 419, what a plot twist! But it totally makes sense, the writers are brilliant *_*
Also, I want to know if Soo Wan is Joon's biological sister on their mother's side, or she's just a noona that Joon might have had a crush on (high school girl that Ha Ram told Joon not to fall for)??
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eva
November 16, 2017 at 8:20 PM
Agree with you. 444 must have a special meaning. Also, I still couldn't figure out why the writer has to make Clara a transsexual, and not just a regular woman. There must be a reason for this, too. By this time, I have come to believe that there is no loose thread in this show that wouldn't finally fall into place.
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Napkiin
November 16, 2017 at 8:36 PM
Maybe for the plot twist lol
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tsutsuloo
November 17, 2017 at 7:56 AM
I've been thinking about this too and I suspect @napkiin is right—Clara is trans for the plot twist of 419's true identity. It just feels ... retrograde.
And that pisses me off. We may never know her deep backstory but we do she transitioned as an adult and had a relationship with Gwang-Gyun (Crazy Dog).
I guess the rules of this world state that your soul's physical form matches your original body. If 419 had been played by a female actor, it could've been a statement about how the soul aligns with your internal sense of self.
I guess that's for another show.
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ar_arguably romantic
November 17, 2017 at 3:57 PM
I also thought it would have made more sense for 419's soul to be a woman.
419's body confused me. I'm guessing 419 had a different form before Clara's body was found. But didn't any reaper find it strange that 419 suddenly changed? I would like to know more about Clara's backstory too. I know she was a horrible person who was prostituting underaged girls, but her scenes with Crazy Dog made me sympathetic to her.
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Napkiin
November 17, 2017 at 8:45 PM
419 had a different form before Clara/419's body was found because Clara's body had been missing for all these years. You don't gain your original form back until your body has been found. When we see 419 as a man at the end is because that's how she'd look biologically if she hasn't had done the surgery to transition.
ar_arguably romantic
November 18, 2017 at 3:44 PM
@Napkin. I'm curious about how 419 looked liked when she was a fresh soul on the first day of work before her body was found. I'm assuming she looked different than the 419 we saw reaping Haram's ex. I just thought that the other reapers would have found it weird if 419 was looking like, let's say, Lee Jun Ki, the whole time and then on the day her body was found - she looked like the man reaping the ex's soul (her originaly form), Wouldn't the reapers have found it weird to see a colleague suddenly change? It seems like only 007 knows the truth behind the high-born reapers.
Napkiin
November 16, 2017 at 8:34 PM
I forgot to add, isn't Joon older than Moo Gang by 10 years not 1?
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eva
November 16, 2017 at 10:41 PM
Can't be 10 years, surely? MG looked at least 6 or 7, while Joon surely looked younger than 16 or 17?
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eva
November 16, 2017 at 10:41 PM
Also, that would have made SW, noona to Joon, more than 10 years older than Moogang.
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Napkiin
November 16, 2017 at 11:20 PM
Yea my bad I went back to watch it again, it is 1 yr lol
tsutsuloo
November 17, 2017 at 7:15 AM
I have an American middle-schooler. There's huge variability within this tween-teen group. The 6th graders look like babiescompared to the hulking 8th graders.
The story doesn't neatly align with the real ages of the child/adult actors.
Kim Tae-Woo (444) is 46 (young Joon is played by a 13-year-old child actor)
Song Seung-Heon (Moo-gang) is 41 (child actor looks about 2-4 yrs younger than Joon)
Go Ara (Ha-ram) is 27 (child actor is 9)
Lee El (Soo Wan) is 35 (child actor is 15)
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Coral
November 17, 2017 at 12:30 PM
Wow, everything you said makes sense. Moo Gang having Joon's heart would explain many things. Maybe also the name 444 is related to this: since Joon's heart kept on living somehow they cannot assign him a death date?
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trash x
November 19, 2017 at 8:01 PM
Wait why would Moo Gang's mother need Joon's heart to bring transplanted into Moo Gang? Was he suffering some kind of illness? Was there any clues in the episodes that I missed?
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Napkiin
November 19, 2017 at 9:01 PM
It was in the earlier episodes I forgot which one, but Moo Gang has some kind of heart disease
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Napkiin
November 19, 2017 at 9:00 PM
Could be! And also how 444 isn't able to leave Moo Gang's body, and how Ha Ram can't see the black shadow on his body. Maybe he has merged with the body already
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Saki
November 23, 2017 at 7:55 AM
I believed 444 stands for month of April, 4 days after moojin mart incident and 4am somthing joon found dead after watched ep11 or 12 ..hahha..this just my opinion..no offense guys..
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5 eva
November 16, 2017 at 8:16 PM
This is one of the best episodes so far, in terms of revelation as well as emotional impact. I just love the scenes where the Hip-Hop reaper learns of his real-life story from a sad, resigned yet infinitely sympathetic 007. That moment of brutal awakening puts everything into perspective, but I for one wouldn't want to go through this, having lived all my life (whatever of a life a reaper may have) in a sort of a lie. Better carry on the lie than to be forced at the last minute to face reality.
For 007, presumably his own body has never been found yet; so to go through so many years and see his various partners eventually finding their place while his own soul still wanders about without a resting place must have been gnawing. So sad!
Are we to presume that from now on 007 and 416 would leave 444 for ever? 416 would definitely be gone, but how about 007? Please do not leave 444 alone.
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TheImprintOnMyNose
November 17, 2017 at 9:06 PM
Yeah. I hope 007 gets his own story spin off with goryeo/joseon-style reapers and all, a historical fantasy so to speak. The writer's creative enough to this although historical dramas might not be her thing.
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TheImprintOnMyNose
November 17, 2017 at 9:16 PM
Yeah. It would be nice to have a story spin off about 007's origins with joseon/goryeo-style reapers and all. I mean the writer's creative enough to do this even though historical dramas might not be her thing..
Anyways my own theory is that 007 is an actual deity, not a reaper with a missing body, perhaps even "God" himself in disguise. Lol
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diaaaa
November 18, 2017 at 12:08 PM
this is just my wild guess, but what if 007's body was burned? the reapers so far were able to pass since their skeletons were found, but if the body turned into ashes... maybe thats why 007 stayed for so long
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6 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
November 16, 2017 at 8:19 PM
It seems to be a law of the kdrama-verse that long-abandoned buildings that might have clues in them have never been torn down & replaced or even remodeled and put to some use. Korea must be full of old empty buildings.
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ar_arguably romantic
November 17, 2017 at 4:07 PM
lol! I know, right?! 20 years without the building collapsing or a vagrants squatting there and removing the evidence. I'm guessing no one wants to move to Mujin or open a business there.
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Helenya
November 22, 2017 at 8:10 PM
My thoughts too - a contaminant so dangerous it was banned is left out on a open shelf in an abandoned industrial building...
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7 meowingme
November 16, 2017 at 8:21 PM
I was freaking out when Rapping Reaper is all smokey, but what a reveal! Loved the "missing people" concept too, it really imbued the show with such a melancholic vibe. Got goosebumps when the truth about Clara/ex-partner is exposed; show has been dropping hints all along.
Was also puzzling over 444 name and what kind of date would that be. The only thing I can think of is it's a combination of 2 dates coz he died twice after hijacking a dead body and both bodies are still hidden..? Uh, if such thing is possible...
Thanks @odilettante for pointing out the connection to Sewol disaster, knowing this is based on true story makes it so tragic. Hope this can be a boost for those still working for this cause.
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Mina
November 20, 2017 at 6:20 AM
I think no 444 is joonie.(han moo chan) is it? Hehe
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8 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
November 16, 2017 at 8:23 PM
They have to have a backup numbering system in case two people commit suicide or go missing/death on the same day. Just roll with it, 444 ("deathdeathdeath") is too good for them to pass up.
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PakalanaPikake
November 17, 2017 at 12:51 PM
444 might even be read as Death to the third power -- which would be MegaDeath or something.
As for 007, it could be interpreted as January 7 (7th day of the year). The three digits would work for encoding up to 365/366 (for leap year).
Somehow I don't think poor Joseon's remains are in the Seventh Heaven.
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9 lolalarue
November 16, 2017 at 8:23 PM
Wow! I knew that reaper was looking at Crazy Dog longingly! But what a great explanation for the 'natural' reapers! Love it.
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10 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
November 16, 2017 at 8:34 PM
Not just Sewol - they're also splicing in the 1995 Sampoong Department Store collapse, which killed over 500 people and is an epic example of how not to do things.
If you think the stuff big kdrama companies do is too hard to believe, read this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampoong_Department_Store_collapse
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cloudandsea
November 17, 2017 at 6:36 AM
I read the Sampoong Dept and was in shock. Blatant recklessness to human's lives.
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ar_arguably romantic
November 17, 2017 at 4:56 PM
Me too. The chairman's 10 year sentence was even reduced to 7.5 years. In addition to all the people who died, over 900 were injured - some probably very severely. I wonder what their lives have been like.
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tsutsuloo
November 17, 2017 at 8:02 AM
Thank you for sharing this link. Astonishing and heartbreaking.
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Coral
November 17, 2017 at 11:58 AM
I learnt about this through Reply 1994, when Go Ara, btw, was worried that Chilbonggie would have been caught there.
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PakalanaPikake
November 17, 2017 at 1:20 PM
Thanks for the background information, Lord C. It's truly depressing, and gives a "ripped from the headlines" feel to the story.
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11 ar_arguably romantic
November 16, 2017 at 8:39 PM
"Hearing Seung-chul reassure Hyun-soo that they should just wait for the adults to save them was eerily reminiscent of the way the ferry victims apparently stayed put and waited, as instructed, instead of trying to escape." ---> That was such a gut-wrenching line. I was also totally thinking about the students who died on the Sewol.
I think someone may have mentioned it before, but Mujin is definitely Hellmouth. So much corruption happening there!
I liked how Black got back at Sang Min. I think he not only felt the injustice of Sang Min getting away with it, but I think he was also pained by Man Soo's tortured screams over Sip-gyeong's death.
The 007 definitely knows more than a normal reaper should know if he knows the truth behind the "pure" reapers. Since the numbered, pure reapers are souls whose bodies haven't been found, I feel like there isn't much hope for 007 to move on. It's not going to be easy to run across some bones belonging to some guy from hundreds of years ago.
Haram's dilemma with her family was well-done - the feeling of hurt and betrayal that her mom, who hated her ability, would ask her to risk her life to save her younger step-sibling, and the unfairness of how she would have to save a scum like her stepdad in order to stop her little step-brother from dying.
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odilettante
November 16, 2017 at 8:48 PM
I think someone may have mentioned it before, but Mujin is definitely Hellmouth.
Hey, that was me! Back in the episode 7 comments. :D
(Definitely still a Hellmouth, though.)
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ar_arguably romantic
November 17, 2017 at 5:10 PM
=D It's gets more Hellmouth-y with each episode. I wouldn't be surprised if there was also a cult in Mujin too, like the one in the OCN drama, Save Me. That town was called Muji. hmmm...
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roseysjournal
November 16, 2017 at 8:49 PM
Hah! My sister had that same comment for Mujin. It must be some kind of Hellmouth for all that corruption to have occurred there. Me thinks some big-time politician will turn out to be the big bad of them all and he's also involved in that prostitution ring from that town.
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12 roseysjournal
November 16, 2017 at 8:53 PM
Is that child of Man-soo's birth mom the same guy who actually held Moo-gang hostage at the mall? I could've sworn they're the same which makes sense given that almost every character here is inter-connected. I still have to figure out Leo's role in all this though... is his family from Mujin too?
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eva
November 17, 2017 at 12:58 AM
Yes, same soldier. We have no information about Leo's family.
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tsutsuloo
November 17, 2017 at 8:09 AM
Wow. If it were't for @odilettante's recaps and the Beanie Hive Mind, I would've missed a few of these connections.
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13 ShiroKoala
November 16, 2017 at 9:28 PM
Yeah, I totally agree with you about Ha Ram.That's why I like her too. She's been through so many struggles and her mother was somehow not close to her, but she still wants her brother (not related at all) to live.Even if it means saving her hateful stepdad.
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14 TheImprintOnMyNose
November 16, 2017 at 9:50 PM
"Joon was reportedly found dead on the road on the 20th (according to the date on his urn)"
But why's everyone so convinced that 444 is Joon?.. Joon's body isn't missing at all, and if it really is then whose ashes are in that urn? O.o Is it possible that 444 is a character haram has never met before? A little sad because we all want to ship her with joon, her first love.
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Napkiin
November 16, 2017 at 10:12 PM
We don't know for sure if that body actually belongs to Joon's. If it doesn't belong to Joon, most likely it's his best friend that died and lost his hand (Moo Gang's mother was desperate to get the whole body). It only makes sense that 444 is Joon, Korean dramas love the whole "first love come true" plot line, and the drama brings up Joon over and over again, emphasizing he is Ha Ram's first love. Imagine if 444 is somebody else, and Joon already went to heaven, that'd be a big disappointment.
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bizzybody
November 17, 2017 at 2:16 AM
I think the body on the road is not Joon but like someone mentioned before, Joon's real body is in the car on the seabed.
I feel Moo Gang's mum may have taken Joon's heart for her own son as organ transplants from related person will have lesser risk of rejection and they're half-brothers.
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ar_arguably romantic
November 17, 2017 at 5:14 PM
If MG's mom really did use Joon's body to harvest his organs, I hope Black tells the mom that her precious MG is dead and his/Joon's spirit has taken over, so she can fork off!
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tsutsuloo
November 17, 2017 at 8:10 AM
Was that roadside body missing a hand?
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Napkiin
November 17, 2017 at 8:47 PM
Hasn't been shown yet. But I wouldn't be surprised if they reveal it to us that the body is missing a hand
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mooninpisces
November 18, 2017 at 8:24 AM
Ohhh, good one! That would tie in well with the theory that Moo Gang has Joon’s heart and Seung Chul’s body was used to fabricate the hit and run story behind Joon’s death/disappearance.
Wondering now if Moo Gang’s mother had something to do with Joon’s demise...
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15 Sweetsammy
November 16, 2017 at 10:41 PM
Thanks for those lovely comments odilettante!! Its like you wrapped all possible scenarios into one neat bow which is awesome!
Also, totally hate the villains in this show: they are child abusers and pet killers
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16 eynay
November 17, 2017 at 12:17 AM
I'm waiting for this episode recap because I really love this episode. So many question answered here. I cried with 416 & Man Soo & cried again when reading your comments.
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17 Um
November 17, 2017 at 12:51 AM
The children on sewol did not sit waiting to die. What kind of whitewashing to fit the western version of "submissive" asians is this..
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eva
November 17, 2017 at 12:56 AM
I thought they did? THey were told by the ship's crew to stay put and the crew then jumped ship without bothering to tell them.
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UM
November 17, 2017 at 6:33 AM
Yes they delayed telling the children to evacuate and then jumped ship but that doesn't mean the kids just sat there until they drowned.
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18 No1
November 17, 2017 at 2:37 AM
What is with this drama? can't even guess one scenario of this..
enjoying a drama like this after a very long time....
Thank you for the recap...
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19 Nutini
November 17, 2017 at 7:43 AM
I enjoy these recaps so much that I decided to check the drama, but gave up on it immediately. I do not know what is the reason, but something just does not click with me and it feels boring.
So I prolly will just read recaps and imagine that drama in my head instead watching it.
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20 Coral
November 17, 2017 at 12:42 PM
I loved this episode. The story keeps unfolding and I care more and more about the characters. It was heartbreaking to see little Man Soo also accompanied by a dog, most likely his furry friends are the only real family he has ever had. On the other hand, Black made me laugh with his sudden signs of affection for his colleagues and of course for Ha Ram. And I think at some point he will try (successfully) to play that guitar and maybe he will start suspecting that something weird is going on with his identity.
Also, another thing that this show does well is the villains, they are scary and hateful. I wouldn't want to cross paths with Man Ho or Missing-finger **cringes in fear**
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21 PakalanaPikake
November 17, 2017 at 5:34 PM
Thank you for your recap and comments, @odilettante! The second episode this week was jam-packed with revelations. I appreciate your keeping score, because I'm still struggling. ;-)
I finally got it through my noggin that Joon and Moo-chan are one and the same person: Moo-gang's elder half-brother. The family resemblance makes it more realistic that Ha-ram mistakes Mu-gang for Joon. Now that she's recalled the scar on Joon's hand, she's going to put two and two together -- or maybe jump to another of her patented conclusions. (I was cringing as she accused Black of trying to hide a naughty photo from her. Sheesh!)
If Black is really Joon, and did indeed discover his own remains in the submerged car, then whose ashes are in Joon/Moo-chan's urn? I think that Doctor Mom was putting on an act when identifying "Joon's" body at the hit-and-run site. As another Beanie has noted, she may have swiped Seung-chul's mangled remains to cover up her step-son's murder if Joon were indeed used as his brother's heart donor. She may have hoped no one noticed the corpse was missing a hand -- and made sure he was cremated quickly. -- It's also possible that the hit-and-run victim is a third party. Given the show's body count, that would not surprise me. It would also not surprise me if the submerged car were the hit-and-run vehicle. Putting Joon's corpse in it before sending it off the cliff killed two birds with one stone. (Except that I don't recall there being a skeleton in the driver's seat. Hmmm.)
If Joon were a heart donor, his sternum would have been opened up. If and when his body is retrieved from the sunken car, his breastbone will be a dead giveaway that he'd had thoracic surgery. What a coincidence -- just like his kid brother.
Cue up Celine Dion singing “My Heart Will Go On.” If Joon's heart were transplanted into Moo-gang, a significant part of him survived. Perhaps he's not technically dead? Hence the odd Reaper number? Hmmm.
Hip Hop's scenes were poignant. Poor kid. Reversion to his true form and recovery of his memories would have been mind-blowing for an adult. But for a middle-schooler, and over such a short period of time? Yikes. As for 007, he may end up like the last ghost in the TV movie SOLE SURVIVOR.
The revelation that Man-soo is also a half-brother in his family is an interesting twist. His elder half-brother is the spawn of Satan. His younger one (the AWOL soldier Mu-gang caught before the hostage standoff at the mall?) has apparently died, according to their mother's sign. Might this be a reference to brutality in the military, as was depicted in ROMANTIC DOCTOR, TEACHER KIM? Is someone out to shut up Mom because of her protest?
Finally: RIP, Sip-gyeon.
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eva
November 17, 2017 at 8:02 PM
Nice theory about killing two birds with one stone. Well-done!
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PakalanaPikake
November 17, 2017 at 10:59 PM
Thanks, @eva. Why dispose of one piece of evidence if your can get rid of two?
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Barbrey
November 18, 2017 at 6:30 PM
Yes that's what I think about him not being technically dead. He did die on 4/20 according to the screenshot, so that's when his spirit became a reaper, but if MG has a heart of Joon in him, then when Joon's spirit rejoined the heart, the clock started clicking again. Twenty-four days later 4/20 plus 24 days will be Joon/Black's real death day, likely when he finds the rest of his body in the car as well
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22 oxxy
November 17, 2017 at 5:35 PM
Episode 10 just showed us that the writer actually knew where the show was going and it was so satisfying. The whole reversal about "true-born" reaper and 419 was nicely done and gave me faith in a tight finale with all of our questions answered.
I also love the changes in the relationship between Ha-ram and Black, he used to hate having any physical contact with her and did not even want to held her hand to help her out when she fell. But in this episode when she fell he naturally extended his hands and she took it without missing a beat. The romance is not what I'm looking for in this drama but I can't help to love their interaction and how Black changes with each episodes.
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23 Meh
November 17, 2017 at 9:59 PM
I’m starting to dislike MG’s mom. Went back to rewatch ep 3 (thanks to Eva 😂).. and I have this feeling that when MG just died and his ghost told Black that he can’t die yet, as MG has to go and ask HER how SHE could do this to him and why; this SHE probably refers to his mom. How SHE could get rid of Joon (or harvest his organs) to save him. Intuitively back then, most of us would assume that this SHE was referring to Soowan.
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eva
November 17, 2017 at 11:17 PM
Wow, what great insight! I must go back and watch episode 3, too.
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Meh
November 18, 2017 at 1:04 AM
A lot of clues seem to point towards it:
1. Right from the start, MG isn’t very warm towards his mom. He literally dismissed SW’s suggestion to call her more often on his birthday
2. MG’s mom is against him being a police. Why? Afraid he will dig up the truth? Seriously if my son is so wimpy, puking at dead bodies etc, all the more I’ll prefer him to toughen up
3. Why did MG become a police anyway? He is obviously digging something on his own. From flashbacks etc we could see that he’s really really close to Joon. He might want to find out the truth of his suspicious death. MG wearing the red bracelet - probably a constant visual reminder to avenge his brother’s death.
4. Hence he was in touch with the moojin ‘mother’. Why is MG’s mom so insistent that Joon’s Birth mother does not contact MG anyway.
5. Not sure if he really fell in love at first sight with SW. The whole stalking episode sounds a bit weak tbh. He might have approached her intentionally.
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trash x
November 19, 2017 at 8:08 PM
Wait why would Moo Gang's mother need Joon's heart to bring transplanted into Moo Gang? Was he suffering some kind of illness? Was there any clues in that episode (3) that I missed?
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sargevee
November 20, 2017 at 8:11 AM
No. But there is a scene in the new episode that hint to this.
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24 namnam
November 17, 2017 at 10:33 PM
Hello everyone,
This is my first comment here. I've been reading your amazing comments for so long, though.
There is this really far-fetched thing i can't help imagining and it might actually kill me if i can' t talk about it. So i was thinking if 007 could be Ha Ram's dad. What do you think, beanies? I'd really appreciate any ideas.
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eva
November 17, 2017 at 11:18 PM
Why? What makes you think that?
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PakalanaPikake
November 17, 2017 at 11:33 PM
@namnam,
That's a good question as to whether Ha-ram's Dad might have become Joseon. I tend to think he did not.
Her dad's Reaper animated his dead body and fathered Ha-ram. Technically he would have been AWOL, so when the body he was in was killed a second time, the jig would have been up. Because of his transgressions, I think he was supposed to be destined for a bad place, which may have been part of the tragic stuff that was supposed to befall Reapers who looked into the eyes of humans in love.
I don't know who Joseon is. If he is indeed a missing person, keep in mind that his present outer appearance may have nothing to do with the time during which he lived as a mortal human. For all we know, he could have been a sageuk actor, a historian, or even a reenactor. (Does the Society for Creative Anachronism exist in Korea?!)
Someone suggested above that he might be a god, the Jade Emperor (from ARANG AND THE MAGISTRATE). He could be Hades, God of Hell, too. He surely seems to know a lot about Reaper lore.
I'm also wondering about the wearer of the butterfly watch. Butterfly (nabi) god figured prominently in THE LONELY, SHINING GOBLIN.
I'm looking forward to learning Joseon's former human identity. I hope this helps tide you over until then. ;-)
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namnam
November 18, 2017 at 12:03 AM
Thanks for the reply, yes it makes sense that when he died a second time, he couldn't go back to becoming a reaper again, but because everyone is somehow linked and Ha Ram's dad is such an important character for our mains, i thought we could expect to find him in an unexpected place, supporting and helping them again. I knew it was far-fetched, still i hoped he would be an exception just like Joon Oppa, who will also be given a scend chance(fingers crossed)!
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Helenya
November 22, 2017 at 8:23 PM
I’m intrigued by the ‘bad’ thing that happens to reapers who look into the eyes of a person in love. I think an unenlightened reaper’s ‘bad’ would look very different from our ‘bad’. Look at how they view human interactions and death compared to humans. Maybe their ‘bad’ outcome is the ability to love and feel empathy for humans, and particularly one human. Maybe their bad outcome is swoonworthily good from a drama viewer’s point of view 😍🙏💕
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25 jully moue
November 18, 2017 at 1:34 AM
Question: Seung Chul, if he didn't die in the mall collapse, and was found by Moo Gang's Mom (as per her flashback). Where is he now, dead or alive?
When Original Moo Gang was first rushed to the hospital after the hostage incident, Moo Gang's mom said something like this: "How can he die, after I did everything to save him?" Which makes me wonder if MG Mom harvested some organ off Seung Chul to save young MG, and maybe after that, devise a hit and run to cover up for the body, she would have had the clout to manipulate a fake autopsy; since no parents identified him, or he conveniently lost his memories.
IF Seung Chul died officially as Real Joon and is in the urn in the colomborium, I wonder if he was still classified as "Missing" by the heavens, since, nobody knew he as Seung Chul, but thought his body was Joon.
IF Seung Chul is alive, he can't be Missing-Finger, cause he lost his entire forearm. I don't think there is any character alive that fits his description.
IF Seung Chul is dead, but classified "Missing" by the heavens, then which Grim Reaper is he? The Creepy Doc? (How did upright Seung Chul grow up to be Creepy Doc?) He can't be Joseon, since Joseon boasts his memory of seeing Admiral Yi Sun-Shin die. We don't know of any other Grim Reapers personally.
I feel like this point may have already been validated, but I just wanna put it out. Ha Ram is an offspring of a human and a human body inhabited by a Grim Reaper, which explains her ability since young, and her dad's unfazed-ness about her ability. Ha Ram's dad is probably the Grim Reaper in the Bride Car Accident at the start of Episode 2. Maybe after looking in the Bride's eyes, he decided to spare her the pain and go into the Groom's body and continue living as Ha Ram's future dad called Kang Soo Hyuk.
In Episode 2, when Ha Ram went to her Mom's house and accidentally found her Dad's Police Badge, there was a family photo with baby Ha Ram, and the young mother looks extremely alike with the Bride. There's a reason why we don't see the face of the Groom in the Bride Car Accident. When Ha Ram went to the Nursing Home to confront her mother about why she didn't look for the man who wrote a that note informing her of his suspicions that Ha Ram's Dad didn't die of an accidental fall. Ha Ram's Mom said: "His death doesn't matter to me.", "Kang Soo-Hyuk should have just died that day." and "I shouldn't have fallen into love with him, and had you." Which means after a while into the marriage, she realized she is not living with the man she married, but fell in love with Grim Reaper anyway. She decided to continue living together married, had Ha Ram, but things are not working out, and she decided she wants to abandon this baby daddy and her baby Ha Ram. Then what happened to the soul of Grim Reaper Ha Ram's Dad? :(
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jully moue
November 18, 2017 at 1:43 AM
I'm replying myself -.-
I just remembered Black said, Grim Reapers won't remember what they did in the interim if the body they inhabited died twice.
Which means after Ha Ram's Dad was killed by Spidey-Man, his soul came out. He got punished or maybe banished but he wouldn't remember Ha Ram at all??! (T.T)
Aha, maybe Ha Ram's Dad is not a Grim Reaper, since he needed young Ha Ram to point out that there is shadows lurking behind him, whereas Black can see Joseon and Hip Hop just fine.
I'm still convinced Ha Ram's Dad is Grim Reaper at the start of Episode 2 though.
Somebody convince me otherwise?
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eva
November 18, 2017 at 4:24 AM
But remember, 007 was already there collecting the dead souls after the collapse of the building 20 years ago. Did Haram's Dad die then or after?
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eva
November 18, 2017 at 4:21 AM
I am not sure that Seung CHul would be classified as missing in the Underworld. He would be in the human world but I would think that the Underworld would not be fooled.
Agree with you about Haram's parents. What happened to her Dad is supposed to be the tragedy that befalls reapers who look into the eyes of a human lover. Exactly what that is we have to wait and find out, through Black and Haram.
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26 mooninpisces
November 18, 2017 at 8:43 AM
I’ll be interested to know who is the grim reaper possessing the shady doctor.
The missing Leo the Loser? Hmm, he seems a little too mature behaving to be the washout we first saw as 444’s new partner. But at this point in the story, I don’t believe it could be a different reaper.
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27 Abbie
November 18, 2017 at 12:14 PM
This was a powerful episode. It gutted me, especially when Man-soo's dog was killed and when Hip-Hop's body was found. Gah! His poor parents.
I honestly hadn't made the connection to the Sewol Ferry Disaster, but man, now that it's pointed out this show just adds a whole new layer of rawness to it. So tragic.
I like that we're getting answers (at last) but now I just have more questions! Such a good show!
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28 nyenisu
November 19, 2017 at 3:05 PM
such an intense episode! RIP SIP-GYEONG :(((( i was tearing up so much during that scene!
now that the writers have explained that the reapers are "missing people", do you think 444 is actually joon's hit-and-run driver?? i don't know how to explain his date of death (444) but i remember from episode 1, 444 was looking at his body under the waters in the car (the very beginning of episode 1) and screaming "is that really me???" so i don't think 444 = joon but then again who knows.. just a theory i've been thinking of!
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Fwidiazz0710
November 23, 2017 at 11:10 AM
My theory based on ep.12 joon was died at 4.20 PM,April 20th (4 days after Moojin times mart collapsed)
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29 dramaloverrr
November 19, 2017 at 11:20 PM
I looove that the writer tied in real issue in real world to the drama like the sewil ferry. And that dig to gd when the bad nephew bragging to his friend how 'everyone believe that he mistook weed for cigarette' lolll. I cannot stop laughing at that part. I love me some bigbang but i like it when people calling out bullshit.
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30 corgiheart
November 20, 2017 at 10:37 AM
444 makes no sense as a date, but it reminded me of http error codes. A 444 error happens when an http request can't be completed. That's when you get one of those "this page can't be reached" messages.
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31 Mei
December 15, 2017 at 6:46 PM
The soundtrack was amazing for this episode. Does anyone know where I could find it?
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32 UmarAziz Anwar
January 14, 2018 at 12:02 PM
I just wanna know what is the song when 007 tells 416 about the grim reapers rules.. it goes ha..ha,...haha... vey sadly... i really need that song name.. who have it kindly inbox me [email protected]
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33 Charlotte
January 18, 2018 at 12:22 PM
I might be the lone dissenting voice in a wilderness of praise for Haram...but lately she's giving me more and more 'eye rolls' as she impulsively packs ups and decides to go to China to find a killer on her own without discussion...or jumps to conclusions regularly, either beating on someone verbally or physically (i.e she assumed Man-soo tried to rape the Mom & jumped him right away). Even in the beginning when she met Grimreaper/Moo-gang she totally didn't 'get' that he was shot in the head and couldn't remember her. Instead it was all about her feeling bad and refusing to believe that Moo-Gang would ever forget her. She's like the Reaper in that she has very few filters. Thank goodness she has empathy for the people with shadows. I started out liking her character, but the more she keeps forwarding the plot by rushing into danger which often results in first Man-soo and then the Reaper getting hurt trying to saving her, the more I'm distanced from rooting for her. But Seon Yeung is another story. Poor girl...I'm amazed she doesn't have clouds of black deathly smoke all over her body. Her days are hell.
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34 Angel's
September 14, 2018 at 6:59 AM
So Hyun soo is the only missing person of the moojin mall or what?? If there are more than 1 person still missing in that accident, then that means more than 1 reaper will share the same number right? Because they all died and went missing on the same day.. (According to the reaper's number being the date of their death) Gonna have to wait for the next episode then...
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