It’s Okay, It’s Love: Episode 13
by gummimochi
It’s the calm before the storm as our characters try to process the truth that our hero isn’t doing as well as he’s been letting on. Everyone should be so lucky to have as many people who care for them as Jae-yeol does, even if he isn’t aware of the danger he is to them and to himself. So it’s important for him to savor the few moments he has with the people he loves before it’s too late and everything comes crumbling down at his feet.
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EPISODE 13 RECAP
After sitting Hae-soo down, Sunbae Jo and Doctor Lee cut right to the chase: they believe Jae-yeol is schizophrenic. Furthermore, the aspiring young writer Jae-yeol cares about so much—Kang-woo—doesn’t exist and neither do any of the kid’s manuscripts.
It isn’t an easy pill for anyone to swallow, particularly Hae-soo, who reacts with a mix of shock and confusion. She understandably doesn’t want to believe it, but watching the CCTV evidence of Jae-yeol fighting no one but himself disturbs her.
She tries her best to keep her voice calm when Jae-yeol calls, her eyes glued to the monitor. He picks up on her nervousness on the phone, and hangs up since he’ll be writing tonight. Jae-yeol was allegedly involved in an altercation with Kang-woo’s father about two months ago, which has Hae-soo tearfully recall the night Jae-yeol returned home battered and bloody.
After being told that Mama Ok-ja may be responsible for Jae-yeol’s stepfather’s death, Hae-soo is also told that imaginary Kang-woo may be a manifestation of Jae-yeol’s own younger self and personified guilt towards his brother. But what’s even more unsettling is how Jae-yeol is unaware that he’s hurting himself.
His condition is severe enough for Doctor Lee to consider hospitalizing Jae-yeol immediately, something Hae-soo is reluctant to even think about. When asked if Jae-yeol has voluntarily put himself in danger before, she recalls Jae-yeol’s risk-taking behaviors, from the speedy car chase to when he ran into oncoming traffic to his most recent car accident.
But Hae-soo denies any such behavior despite being told that time is of the essence. The building sweat on Hae-soo’s body betrays her words, though, and Doctor Lee warns Tae-yeol against taking any rash actions which could worsen Jae-yeol’s condition.
They have to keep Hae-soo away from Jae-yeol, Doctor Lee tells Sunbae Jo afterwards—for both of their sakes. If Jae-yeol’s self-harming behavior progresses, the end result is suicide.
When Hae-soo calls Jae-yeol asking where Kang-woo’s manuscripts are, he explains that he last saw them when she came in while he was on the phone with Kang-woo. Now we see the memory from her perspective, realizing that Jae-yeol wasn’t holding anything in his hands, let alone a manuscript.
Jae-yeol directs her to the drawer he believes he stuffed the document in. It’s empty of course, and he’s left perplexed when Hae-soo says it isn’t there.
She’s still very much in denial of Jae-yeol’s psychological issues afterwards, refusing to believe Sunbae Jo’s hypothesis of schizophrenia when it could be a minor neurological issue. Why should they as doctors jump to conclusions when she hasn’t witnessed any abnormal behavior?
Soo-kwang and So-nyeo happen to catch the tail-end of that conversation. After sending his girlfriend home, Soo-kwang recalls a time when Jae-yeol was carrying on a conversation by himself outside the cafe.
So when Hae-soo lights another candle that night, Soo-kwang repeats the statistics she spoke from her own mouth—how the majority of schizophrenic patients can lead normal lives with proper medication. But Hae-soo returns to her room without another word.
Concerned, Soo-kwang heads over to Jae-yeol’s place for an unexpected sleepover, much to the latter’s annoyance. He even grabs Jae-yeol in a surprise back hug to express his gratitude for the coolest guy he knows. Aw.
Jae-yeol’s stuck with him tonight whether he likes it or night, and though Soo-kwang makes light of his presence here, he tries his best to tamp down his worries.
Hae-soo thinks back to Sunbae Jo’s words earlier: if Jae-yeol’s repressed guilt is the primary issue, then his risk of self-harm increases the happier he is with Hae-soo. The memories flash through her head: how Jae-yeol hurt himself water skiing after they kissed, his violent dreams after they slept together, and his collision into a pole after their impromptu water fight.
Hae-soo leaves for work the next morning, ignoring Sunbae Jo trying to win some points back by offering breakfast. There’s a funny bit when Sunbae Jo claims that Soo-kwang hard-boiled the eggs, only to crack one on his forehead and discover that it’s raw. Ha.
There’s some projection going on at work with Doctor Lee and Hae-soo; the former telling the team to think of the patient’s safety versus how he feels and the latter arguing with a mother about the harms of prescribing ADHD medication to a normal child.
Hae-soo tries to avoid hanging out with Doctor Lee, citing that she’s going to see Mama Ok-ja. But Doctor Lee tells her to take Sunbae Jo with her, pointing out that Hae-soo isn’t reaching out to her sunbaes for help regarding Jae-yeol.
Meanwhile, Soo-kwang calls Jae-yeol to breakfast, going so far as forcing him to stop by closing his laptop when he doesn’t readily respond. He says he noticed Jae-yeol didn’t sleep at all, judging from the time Jae-yeol slipped into the bathroom.
Soo-kwang has some fun at the dining table, laughing when he gets ketchup on Jae-yeol’s face. He gets a beating for that, but stops joshing around the moment Jae-yeol retches into the sink after taking one bite. Uh oh, is that the Lou Gehrig’s disease rising to the surface?
Jae-yeol tells Soo-kwang to keep this a secret from Hae-soo, which Soo-kwang agrees to for about two seconds before secretly texting her about Jae-yeol’s condition, anyway. Still, Jae-yeol’s healthy enough to shoot hoops against Soo-kwang (and win) afterward.
Soo-kwang uses the opportunity to encourage Jae-yeol to get himself checked out. Jae-yeol says he’ll handle it, like he always does. So Soo-kwang doubles back to give Jae-yeol a present—a photo puzzle of the lovebirds—which he breaks up into pieces, to Jae-yeol’s surprise.
But Soo-kwang is trying to prove a point: that most people consider those with mental illnesses like a giant, tangled mess—like people who can’t recognize their own loved ones. “Even after cursing someone out, that there’s no sense of guilt.”
“But that’s not what we’re really like. We’re mostly normal… and only a small part of us is ill,” Soo-kwang states. Jae-yeol agrees with that. Using a puzzle piece to illustrate, Soo-kwang says his episodes only amount to a few seconds or minutes in a year. However for a schizophrenic like Hye-jin (Yoon-chul’s wife), several more pieces fall apart of their world due to a brain abnormality or deep emotional scars.
“Reality slipping into fantasy?” Jae-yeol asks. Soo-kwang: “Something like that.” But the good news is that if the patient seeks professional help and has the will to change, then they have the chance to put their fallen pieces back together.
With that, Soo-kwang gets going, and when Jae-yeol jokingly tells him not to come ’round anymore, Soo-kwang yells back that he probably will. Aw, I do like their friendship. Jae-yeol leaves the completed puzzle behind to shoot more hoops, and then we see imaginary Kang-woo stare at the puzzle and remove one piece.
Meanwhile, Jae-bum smiles at the roses he’s made out of his food, telling a fellow inmate that they’re for his mother… because she’ll be sad once Jae-yeol’s gone for good. He remembers how Jae-yeol had tried to warn him from getting thrown in prison for life, but shakes off that notion.
Hae-soo invites Mama Ok-ja over and barely gets a private conversation going before they’re interrupted by Sunbae Jo and Tae-yong’s arrival. Tae-yong breaks down in tears upon seeing Mama Ok-ja, and Hae-soo is asked to leave so that Sunbae Jo can inform Mama Ok-ja about her younger son’s condition.
Downstairs at the cafe, So-nyeo gets upset when Soo-kwang dismisses her future dreams in becoming a psychiatrist like Hae-soo. He’s already on edge as it is, annoyed that his girlfriend can’t tell that he’s having a hard time worrying about Jae-yeol. But So-nyeo says that’s why she’s trying to make conversation to make things easier—or would he prefer her to be sad and in tears?
She has a point there, and her words leave Soo-kwang impressed. He tells her that he loves her, to which So-nyeo has to suppress a smile.
By the time Hae-soo returns downstairs, it seems that Mama Ok-ja has decided to have hospitalized after all, though she believes that her son is suffering from stress-related issues. She’s still very shaken, however, and Hae-soo places a reassuring hand over hers, saying that Jae-yeol’s condition isn’t terminal.
Mama Ok-ja tries to convince herself that Jae-yeol can just receive treatment, worried that Hae-soo must’ve been even more shocked than she is. Wiping the tears from her eyes, Mama Ok-ja takes her leave.
She wills herself to be strong, but her overwhelming emotions and tears betray the words that psychological treatment and medication will help Jae-yeol. Her heartwrenching sobs are simply hard to watch.
Sunbae Jo notices that there are two candles now, asking if one of them is for Jae-yeol. he stops her from heading over to Jae-yeol’s place, curious as to what she plans to say when she get there. And now Hae-soo finally breaks down in tears, having no idea as to what she’ll say to Jae-yeol’s face.
She sits down with Sunbae Jo after the tears stop, but they’re replaced with fresh ones when she thinks of how foolish it was for her to believe that Jae-yeol would be unaffected by his tragic past. Furthermore, for a woman who claims to love him, she’s never once showed any true empathy to his emotional scars or suffering.
She wonders if she was ever truly sympathetic to his painful past and his relationship to his brother, because she told herself that she could understand the situation since she’s a doctor. Even after seeing Jae-yeol suffering from violent nightmares, she told him that he’d overcome it, but perhaps a part of her wanted to ignore his issues.
That was a show of her faith in Jae-yeol, not ignorance, Sunbae Jo offers consolingly. Calling herself a selfish person and an awful doctor and girlfriend, Hae-soo asks if it’s possible to keep Jae-yeol from being admitted.
Sunbae Jo’s silence pretty much says no, an answer Hae-soo accepts resignedly. Soo-kwang puts his arms out to give Hae-soo a comforting hug (aw), then gestures a thumbs-down sign when asked about Jae-yeol’s level of functioning.
Jae-yeol’s on the phone with Mama Ok-ja when Hae-soo swings by. He’s happy to see her and tells his mother that he can’t come see her since he’s working, much to Mama Ok-ja’s frustration. He suddenly starts coughing, which has Hae-soo recall when Jae-yeol asked her about Kang-woo’s symptoms.
Hae-soo and Jae-yeol share in a romantic moment while looking at the photo montage attached on the wall. After agreeing to let him photograph her hands and feet if she shaves, she recalls how Jae-yeol had said he wanted to protect Kang-woo because the kid reminded him of his younger self.
The words Doctor Lee spoke about Kang-woo being a manifestation of Jae-yeol’s guilt echoes in her mind as well. Looking at his New York Yankees hat, she casually asks if he knows of Lou Gehrig, the famous baseball player who suffered from the neurodegenerative disease which was later named after him. He does, but doesn’t really know how he did, figuring he read about it in a book.
Hae-soo continues to gaze at Jae-yeol with sympathy, softly stroking his hair. The pictures he takes of her hands and feet are added to the wall, and Jae-yeol keeps up his end of the bargain by letting Hae-soo shave his stubble.
She asks what he’d be most worried about if he ever found himself sick and hospitalized. He doesn’t know where this question is coming from, but answers that he’d probably be worried about his inability to write. He needn’t worry, since she’ll still like him if he isn’t a writer.
That prompts Jae-yeol to ask when she’s ever going to tell him that she loves him, then says he hasn’t heard from Kang-woo in a while and isn’t answering his calls either. Hae-soo softly answers that Jae-yeol must be really worried about him, and Jae-yeol replies, “I think he’s going to die soon.”
Kang-woo failed the recent novel writing competition and is sick these days. Hae-soo says Jae-yeol mentioned that Kang-woo was feeling much better, but Jae-yeol says the kid was lying—he’s got Lou Gehrig’s disease.
He states that Kang-woo once called him outside the clinic wearing a grim expression. She asks if Jae-yeol went with him to the hospital that day, which he didn’t because he was with her.
“Then how do you know Kang-woo looked upset? You’re describing it like you saw the scene in a movie or a book.” Jae-yeol opens his eyes, now questioning himself on how he can clearly picture Kang-woo’s memories when he was supposedly alone.
Jae-yeol isn’t willing to let Hae-soo leave so soon, but she assures him that their scheduled date is tomorrow. She’s nearly on the verge of tears when she tells him to wash up. He tells her that he loves her like crazy, but Hae-woo doesn’t echo the words.
Hae-soo sticks around to save a copy of Jae-yeol’s current manuscript from his laptop onto a USB drive, then calls Tae-yong (who’s been waiting downstairs) out for a chat. So Hae-soo is long gone by the time Jae-yeol exits the bathroom, and he smiles when he receives a call from Kang-woo moments later.
He’s relieved that Kang-woo’s fine since he was worried. Kang-woo says nothing as he rides his bike down the road, his eyes closed and his arms wide open. Jae-yeol tells him, “Don’t ever think that you’re alone. I’m always by your side. You know that, right?”
Tae-yong looks over the manuscript Hae-soo nicked and confirms that Jae-yeol’s written this story before—there’s nearly no new material. Jae-yeol encountered the same issue during the first few months when writing his previous novel, and now Tae-yong realizes that his friend has never quite been the same ever since Jae-bum stabbed him with a fork three years ago.
It’s taking Jae-yeol much longer than usual to write, given how rehashing his work for over two years now and unaware that he’s plagiarizing himself. Hae-soo asks that Tae-yong never leave Jae-yeol’s side.
At work, Hae-soo finally admits to Doctor Lee about Jae-yeol’s issues, describing his insomnia and inability to eat or write properly. Moreover, he’s put himself in danger on several occasions, hidden his injuries from her, and she now sees how his case could quickly spiral into a suicide risk.
She believes he might do something drastic, given imaginary Kang-woo’s situation right now: losing a writing composition and being diagnosed with ALS. Doctor Lee asks how she came to understand that someone like Jae-yeol would leave his loved ones and fall victim to his psychological issues.
“His desire to die and leave me, the one he loves, behind… There’s no rational reasoning to it,” Hae-soo answers. “Because it’s a mental illness.” This is her professional judgment: that Jae-yeol is unwell.
She knows they have to resort to force to have Jae-yeol admitted (since Jae-yeol won’t recognize how unwell he is in his current state), but he needs to be hospitalized to treat his active symptoms (i.e., his hallucinations) first.
While Editor Bae sobs in Tae-yong’s arms after informing the broadcasters that Jae-yeol won’t be able to continue his radio show, Doctor Lee and Sunbae Jo give Mama Ok-ja a tour of Jae-yeol’s soon-to-be new home in the psych ward.
She asks whether her son will be hospitalized for months or even years like she’s seen in books or on TV. Doctor Lee assures her that Jae-yeol will likely be hospitalized for a month or two, but I can’t shake off the feeling that that estimate sounds pretty short.
While Sunbae Jo prepares the other medical professionals about Jae-yeol’s case, we see Jae-bum get dropped off at his old neighborhood. He envisions seeing a young Jae-yeol and his mother washing each other in the river—not too far off, Kang-woo looks on.
Jae-yeol finds Hae-soo already waiting for him at home, much to his pleasant surprise. She has him stop in place so she can take in his handsome features. Doctor Lee calls in to inform her that the ambulance to pick up Jae-yeol is standing by for her cue. Hae-soo says she’ll call back.
Then she opens her arms, inviting him for a hug. He gladly takes her up on the offer, planting a kiss on her forehead before pulling her into a tight embrace. “I love you,” he says. A tear rolls down Hae-soo’s cheek as she asks to stay like this for a little longer. He agrees.
COMMENTS
Now that we’ve been exploring the stepfather’s death for some time, I welcome the shift back to Jae-yeol’s mental health, which has been progressively worsening while our attention was mainly fixed elsewhere. His schizophrenic symptoms has always been a concern in this series, and we were left waiting for the day when his present condition would come to the forefront. And if his unstable psychological health wasn’t enough as it was, Jae-yeol has entered the initial stages of a debilitating neurodegenerative disease. Because misfortune never comes alone.
So with this depressing news we’d been prepared for, I most looked forward to our characters’ reactions once they found out that Jae-yeol is unwell and poses as a risk to himself and to others. It was necessary for Hae-soo in particular to be aware of the dangers she faces by placing herself in his company, that her chances of (un)knowingly getting hurt are higher in Jae-yeol’s presence. Despite what anyone else told her, it was important for Hae-soo to acknowledge Jae-yeol’s mental issues, understand how inaction could eventually endanger his own life, and most importantly, that she come to this conclusion on her own. Not only as a professional, but as someone who loves Jae-yeol (even if she hasn’t spoken the words to him yet).
In that vein, Jae-yeol is remarkably lucky to be surrounded by so many people who care for him, both in and outside the house. Given the stigma that surrounds mental health in Korea (as evidenced by the cases we see in the hospital), we saw our characters work together and figure out active measures to ensure Jae-yeol’s safety. Although I raised an eyebrow at how a two-month hospital stay can affect positive change (since seeing noticeable improvement in psychotherapy could take months even in the most willing of patients, which Jae-yeol is not) I appreciated that action was being taken at all instead of brushing the matter under the rug.
I particularly liked watching Soo-kwang and his interactions with our lovebirds, like how he took the initiative to go and take care of Jae-yeol, explained his perspective of what it’s like to suffer from a mental illness compared to what society thinks, and simply gave Hae-soo a comforting hug whenever she needed one. His use of puzzle pieces was a delicate example of what it’s like, for lack of a better phrase, have a few pieces that fall apart. Even with three episodes ahead of us, it’d be nice to see some thoughtful insight on Soo-kwang’s part.
And then we come back to Jae-yeol, who doesn’t even realize the severity of his condition for either his schizophrenia or his Lou Gehrig’s disease. Even without the confirmation in this episode, we’ve known for a while that imaginary Kang-woo is a reflection of his younger self. As Jae-yeol continues to either experience any extreme emotions or puts himself in danger, one can only imagine how that will affect his dependency on a figment of his imagination. Because no one can see that particular puzzle piece except himself.
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1 Barbara
September 5, 2014 at 9:19 PM
Please, don't kill him off...
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Barbara
September 5, 2014 at 11:08 PM
Dear Gummimochi, thanks for the recap, but I think it should be "ADHD drug", right?
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MostlyAmused
September 6, 2014 at 11:20 AM
The ALS is part of the delusion.
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Barbara
September 6, 2014 at 12:42 PM
...? I referred to Gummimochi's words "prescribing ADHD to a normal child".
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gummimochi
September 6, 2014 at 12:51 PM
Yes, that's missing a word there. Will fix that in a jiffy.
MostlyAmused
September 7, 2014 at 10:45 AM
Apologies, Barbara, somehow posted that reply to the wrong post.
santvonemi
September 8, 2014 at 10:09 PM
Judging by the less and less comments, it seems I am not the only one who has stopped watching. The concept was unique, and the actors had chemistry and sold their adult romance, something missing from many kdramas.
However, after a while, it just seems like the world of the drama was so small, and we were just counting our way down to the reveal of the leads disease and his family secret.
The initial humor, got exaggerated and quickly annoying and I think this is one of those dramas that would have been better as a movie.
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2 Jenniec
September 5, 2014 at 9:33 PM
Thanks for the recap. this episode broke me, and the next episode did too.
I'm just so happy with how Gong Hyo Jin is doing (she is an expert) because her acting is superb. Especially when she cries and is heartbroken, no one can quite do it like her.
An speaking of awesomeness this episode was beautifully shot juxtaposing Hae soo's expression with Jae yeol's, because they're opposites right now. Like when Jae Yeol is smiling as he hugs her and she is crying instead.
I love the romance between soo kwang and Jae Yeol and the puzzle example. I also like how Kang woo was seen taking a piece from Jae Yeol's head because it symbolizes how much space he's taking in Jae Yeols mind.
This drama tugs at the heart with great storyline and great directing. I'm in love.
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Courtney Naturally
September 6, 2014 at 12:06 AM
She acts so naturally. It is the usual reaction of a normal person facing a big crisis. The PD's cast the actors well. They don't go for the dramatics. They act so subtly that it's like watching a scripted real life- if there is such a thing. Hahaha!
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hmm
September 6, 2014 at 11:41 PM
Gong Hyo Jin and Jo In Sung are seriously such good actors. No one emotes with their eyes as well as Jo In Sung does and no one cries as realistically as Gong Hyo Jin. I read the live recap for 14 before watching anything and bawled my eyes out. Then I watched the actual episode and bawled some more. When the subs came out I watched it some more and cried again. I think i'll be really depressed when it ends next week. I haven't been sucked into a drama like this since IHYV and Master's Sun. What the heck am I going to replace this show with? Nine Plus Boys seems kinda cool but I dunno if it'll help me cope with the end of this one. Wahhh!
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3 Kaitlyn
September 5, 2014 at 9:56 PM
I wonder if I'm the only person who doesn't think that the scenario that Dr. Jo came up with to explain why Jae-Yeol has schizophrenia makes any sense.
Look at what we've seen so far - Jae-Yeol was knocked out apparently when his step-father fell on him. He may not even remember that he held the knife (he was terrified, after all). His brother was fighting with his stepfather when he got knocked out.
What Dr. Jo imagined that Jae-Yeol saw in the mirror when (or if) he woke up on his brother's back, was JUST his mom setting fire to the house. He couldn't see his stepfather, as he was lying on the floor. So HOW was he supposed to know that his mother killed his stepfather? It seems logical to me that he thought his stepfather was already dead and that his brother killed him. Maybe he thought his mom was setting fire to the house to get rid of the evidence to protect both of her sons.
Honestly, if they are really going with the explanation that Jae-Yeol has these mental problems because of extreme guilt for blaming his brother for the murder of his stepfather when it was really his mom - then they should have shown that he SAW his stepfather alive when his mother set the house on fire. Otherwise, it makes no sense.
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Nanata
September 5, 2014 at 10:17 PM
The lawyer has already stated that Jaeyul remained silent on who killed his stepfather until he was told that his stepfather died because of fire. Seeing how clever Jaeyul is, I am not surprised that he can put together the two pieces of puzzle together (the image of his mother burning paper + his stepfather died from fire).
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monkeyspunk
September 5, 2014 at 11:21 PM
There was also a flashback. I think it was when JY was dreaming as he slept in the bathroom right before HS discovered him. The flashback/dream shows young JY eyeing the knife on the table as his stepfather was beating his brother.
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soad
September 5, 2014 at 11:26 PM
As stated above, the lawyer said that the stepfather didn't die of the stab wound but merely asphyxia.
Looking back at prior episodes I just realized that JY manifested signs of impending suicide such as feelings of grandeur (he is the mighty JY the famous writer and handsome DJ) being careless in driving (ep1), doesn't care if he gets hurt during skiing (ep 7),gave all his possessions to his brother and being extra happy. Also the striking colours of his room is a sign that he hasn't just have OCD but he is with depression as well. He might be having these for the past 3 years but gotten worse when he fell in love with HS. And his guilt feeling towards his brother that he is suffering for 14 years is a main hindrance why he can't choose to live happily because he thinks he doesn't deserve so which leads to more frequent seeing of KW and compensates his lack of action before by being the protector of KW. Creating KW is his compensation/wishful thinking that he is a strong man but in reality he is not (parallel of the two camel painting).
I may have scratch my head in the past episodes about certain things but now I realise where the writer is coming from, I totally understand now how she builds up the plot of this drama.
On another note, thumbs up to GHJ and JIS for a mesmerising performance...
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bbstl 🧹
September 6, 2014 at 8:40 PM
Why do the colors in his house indicate depression?
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soad
September 6, 2014 at 10:34 PM
he is feeling low and he compensates that feeling by choosing vivid/striking colours.
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UjenieD
September 6, 2014 at 10:52 PM
Great observation Kaitlyn!!
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4 Kim
September 5, 2014 at 11:30 PM
This show has always been adept at giving us the pain and the pill. The writers have held our hand every step of the way, explaining the symptoms and nuances of various mental illnesses. They've shown us schizophrenia, abuse, hallucinations and physical manifestation due to delusions. Thank goodness for this plot device because otherwise, I would have lost in the storyline. I just point this out to say be strong of heart and know that Jae Yoel does not have ALS. It's a disease he's projected unto Kang Woo (therefore himself) and he's deluded himself into having symptoms. Just like the lady who thought she was pregnant and therefore had a swollen abdomen and tender breasts. Hye Soo realizes this when she asks about the Yankees hat and Jae Yoel's familiarity with Lou Gherig's disease. Best. Drama. Ever. JY, HS Fighting!
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5 soad
September 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM
@gummimochi thanks for the recap btw...and also I think JY doesn't have ALS, that is just his wishful thinking because he might want to die in an accident than having a suicide because he still thinks of what his mother would feel if he dies.
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soad
September 5, 2014 at 11:38 PM
so i think ALS is just a red herring...
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6 ilikemangos
September 5, 2014 at 11:47 PM
This show seriously does not have a weak link when it comes to acting. Everyone is putting in good performances with what they're given as characters. Even idol D.O of Exo is decent if not good. Those tearful puppy eyes are no joke.
Gong Hyo Jin is stellar.. good actors can act sell crazy, over-the-top comedic performance, or they can cry a truckload of tears. Great actors find the in between, portraying the nuances, and making those emotions feel so real that you're never taken out of the moment. Gong Hyo Jin is exactly that.
Jo In Sung's performance in episode 14 is unbelievably good. Outstanding. Both of them deserve awards.
For those who haven't watched ep.14, i suggest preparing yourself with tissues.
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Lucy
September 6, 2014 at 4:32 AM
Yeah, and Kwang Soo deserves a supporting role's award this year too.
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tata
September 6, 2014 at 9:08 AM
OMG. I'm about to start watching ep 14, and I've already used loads of tissue paper with just ep 13. TT
Haha 3rd world problems :))
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7 Jen
September 6, 2014 at 3:26 AM
Thanks for the recap!
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8 Nessie
September 6, 2014 at 3:52 AM
Thank you gummimochi for the recap!
"Calm before the storm" more like the calm before my heart gets ripped to pieces. This episode focused alot on Hae Soo, and GHJ pulled it off magnificently. Whenever HS eyes gets red, I fully expect her to cry any moment, but she just holds it in. Only when Sunbae Jo talks to her, does she crack and oh those tears. Whenever GHJ cries, I always cry with her.
However my favourite part is, how they portrayed the way HS dealt with JY's situation, both as a lover and as a professional. It's diffcult and painful, but for JY's good she knows that he must be admitted no matter how much her heart doesn't want it to happen.
Soo Kwang's bromance and explanation to JY, was just so good. I appreciate how he isn't there to just "keep an eye" on JY, he was also there to help him understand something that will become important to him in the future.
It's funny how we all saw Kang Woo as someone real adorable in the beginning of the series, but as the drama progresses his presence becomes more omnious and dark. Now I'm more fearful of his presence on screen, than even when Jae-bum appears.
Episode 14 is the real killer, where the acting and emotions will punch a hole in your heart. Jo In Sung & GHJ are so raw and painful in it, you just can't help losing yourself.
I am now going to cry some more, as I go rewatch Episode 14 again.
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Sam
September 6, 2014 at 8:58 PM
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soad
September 6, 2014 at 10:31 PM
It was PTSD but he has been stressed for 14 years and it was not addressed early. He started seeing KW just after the stabbing with fork so it means for 11 years he is not hallucinating but obsessing (he has OCD) as a means to forget what happened 11 years ago. But A person with PTSD will most likely develop psychosis later on in life. 14 years is no joke and I admit if it happens to me, I might break out too. So for me, I can see where the writer is going but I admit there are medical inaccuracies on how they treat patients but I will just comment on it when ep 14 recap is ready.
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hmm
September 6, 2014 at 11:15 PM
As someone who seems to be in the know in the psychiatric field, what kind of treatment would you propose for someone in his situation then? What is the normal order of treatment?
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soad
September 6, 2014 at 11:46 PM
I am not a doctor and I was just a nurse and I only carry out orders so I cannot give specific treatment for him because it is not my duty. But if you will want an order on how to treat psych patients this is from my experience: we secure a consent first from the family/patient whoever is authorised to sign a consent. Treating psych patients usually involves a team (psychiatrists, psychologists, nurses, social worker) If agitated or if needs immediate action, the doctor usually prescribes medicine. The psychiatrists don't usually talk directly to the patients, they are more on prescribing medicines and how to maintain safety of patients, it's the psychologist who usually assess patients and we nurses carry out whatever order they make. Last in the team are social worker who gets the history of the patient, how he is in an environment he lives in etc. And there is no specific treatment nor order actually because of their individuality...they have different experience and reactions to stimuli.
Back in the drama, I said that I understand now where the writer is coming from because before I didn't in the past episodes. And for saying that that it is a mistake in diagnosis, I just reiterated that a PTSD patient can develop schizophrenia as well, it is possible.
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soad
September 7, 2014 at 12:00 AM
and I may add that it is a holistic process. The psychiatrists, psychologists, nurses and social workers collaborate and hold a meeting to discuss patients' history and medical interventions needed. In this drama, we only see psychiatrists discussing about the patients' case and it is one medical inaccuracy. One thing I noticed in ep 14, this is a SPOILER :
JY receiving ECT with a neck injury.
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hmm
September 7, 2014 at 12:35 AM
Thank you so much. I actually addressed my question to Marina but I also greatly appreciate your answers.
soad
September 7, 2014 at 2:53 PM
@hmm oh my bad...i thought it was addressed to me...biane just realised it now.
Sam
September 7, 2014 at 8:00 AM
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soad
September 7, 2014 at 2:52 PM
I don't know how it works in korea, but in my country it is allowed that a mentally ill patient be forced into treatment if he poses a threat to harm himself or others. JY is planned to be forced into treatment because he is at risk of hurting himself or others. They secured consent actually from his mother who is his significant others. Also, the drama showed that if he is with HS, he frequently see KW so HS should not be allowed also to be near him.
and if you insist that it is PTSD, the usual treatment for persons with such is not removing the stimulus/stimuli but slowly exposing the patient in those triggers (systematic desensitisation). You see, it is a holistic process.
Granted that there may be inaccuracies in the medical aspect of this show, we can't remove the fact that it thugs our heart and people watching are becoming less judgmental of persons with mental illness. For this, I applaud the show for trying to break the stigma.
9 alua
September 6, 2014 at 4:13 AM
Having watched ep 13 and 14, I'm confident that this drama will end up in my top 5 ever dramas. There are two episodes left, and there's little they can do to mess it up – they've pretty much avoided all the things I hate.
I think both the first 10 and last 10 minutes of this episode were heart wrenching (and superb), my heart dropped with the conversation between Haesoo and the other two docs, and Jae-yeol calling right in the middle of it. Hae-soo's denial was short-lived, much fortunately.
Soo-kwang is every kind of awesome there is. Such a wonderful, wonderful character. See, k-drama world, you can do it without love triangles, you can have second leads that fill roles other than the ex or the unrequited-love-suitor.
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monkeyspunk
September 10, 2014 at 7:37 PM
alua, I totally agree with you. This drama is perfect and has become my favorite k-drama of all time. I'm curious about your top 5 list. Most recently, my favorites were You From Another Star and I Hear Your Voice. They are on my top 5 list but IOIL blows everything else away with it's incredible story telling and exceptional performances.
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10 Ramsay
September 6, 2014 at 4:29 AM
Soo Kwang the best character so far
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11 Bebee
September 6, 2014 at 4:43 AM
Soo Kwang & So Nyeo are so cute together
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12 Moonbean
September 6, 2014 at 5:38 AM
Now it all makes sense. I never understood how Tae-yong could betray Jae-yeul for a woman if he loves him as much as he is showing recently (and also how easily he was forgiven) but seems like the book was no good anyway and Tae-yong was protecting his friend.
I don’t know anything about psychology but as a layperson I find the script quite well written and cohesive in explaining the logic of Jae-yeol’s mind’s workings. So his troubles began when his brother got out of jail and blamed him. The guilt he felt made him create Kang-woo. When Hae-soo entered his life and he was happy he felt even guiltier than before and his situation worsened. He will kill himself through Kang-woo’s death.
I’m thinking Jae-yeol doesn’t have Lou Gehrig’s disease but thinks he deserves because of his guilt towards his brother and projects it on Kang-woo. His actual physical symptoms may be caused by his psychology.
Kang-Woo’s novels were imaginary as I expected.
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bbeth
September 8, 2014 at 2:11 PM
I don't know if it's been covered before, but your comment totally made me realized why Kang-woo started 3 years ago.
Even with all the cover-up and the unfair 14 years in prison, Jae-Yol thought or wanted to think that his brother was on the same page as he was: sacrifice to protect their family. Son A with not-so-good record pays time in jail, Son B works hard & earns lots of money to take care of family. But when Jaebum came out on parole and stabbed him, JaeYol saw the resentment & blame that his brother put on him and realized that this past decade was something he had constructed himself and felt guilty for jailing his brother (in effect) instead of pleading self-defense as he knew he could have done.
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13 kikidee
September 6, 2014 at 8:14 AM
I haven't been watching this drama, but I have been skimming the recaps, and as someone who is deeply familiar with dealing with a family member with high functioning schizophrenia (they hear things, but thankfully they don't see things and they are able to work, have a family and generally live their life) this show is totally on point that 95 percent of the time life is totally, totally normal. And out of that 5 percent that isn't normal, most of that is minor flare ups (they just say crap and everyone just lets it slide, or they pout because no one else hears what they hear.) There is always fear of that 1 percent, the major incident. Usually one of those is what brings forth the diagnosis in the first place, but you deal with that the best you can.
The one thing that I hope they don't suggest, but I think they will because this is a kdrama, is that it can be cured. If what he has is schizophrenia, then even if he stops seeing Kang-Woo, he is always going to have a tendency to see or hear something else. It can't be cured, it can be managed.
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Kim
September 6, 2014 at 8:46 AM
I think this drama will stay true to the realness. Hye Soo told her friend with the schizophrenic wife that he can never stop watching....
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14 xavi
September 6, 2014 at 8:53 AM
I am in love with this drama.Gong hyo jin and Jo in sung are doing fab job.This drama is very underrated.ppl should watch it...
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iamdeb
September 6, 2014 at 10:14 AM
I just started watching it. Not into many dramas right now so I'm hoping I enjoy this. I'm glad to read it's so good!
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15 tata
September 6, 2014 at 9:02 AM
Daebak. Their acting was jjang, literally everyone of them is doing a very good job. Everything felt so real. Especially Gong Hyo Jin's. Still crying.
Happy ending juseyooooo!!
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16 Jasmin rice
September 6, 2014 at 9:37 AM
This drama is really good. Cheers for the writer and the cast.
I love them all.
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17 Peridot
September 6, 2014 at 10:50 AM
Let me start off by saying that I love the acting on this show. The cast has such amazing chemistry. I look forward to the recap for episode 14.
Praises aside, I have a question surrounding the schizophrenia diagnosis. According to the medical world, the exact causes of schizophrenia are unknown, but isn't childhood trauma not connected to the illness (according to the medical establishment)? So if Jaeyeol is in fact schizophrenic, then is his illness due to something else? And maybe the particular hallucinations he is experiencing are shaped by the trauma in his life and his strong feelings of guilt? Sorry if this doesn't make sense, but I'm hoping that others can provide some information. Thanks :).
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Lixie
September 6, 2014 at 3:12 PM
It makes sense. In fact I had the same question. I had an impression trauma could not cause this kind of thing, but we all know how kdramas love theirs traumas and IOIL science part has been rather iffy so I was just thinking this was one more thing they made up.
Causes aside even if I know nothing about the condition I love how they showed the progression of it in this character and the actor which was totally unkown to me.
I can't coment on ep 14 yet but I thought HS's confession very emotional and meaningful. GHJ is even better here than she was in her show last year.
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Peridot
September 6, 2014 at 4:00 PM
You will really like episode 14 :).
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Lixie
September 6, 2014 at 4:34 PM
I did. :) That's why I talked about her confession but didn't put the details because we shouldn't use write spoilers.
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Peridot
September 7, 2014 at 9:57 AM
Oops! I misread your comment and thought you hadn't watched it :).
jozie
September 6, 2014 at 3:26 PM
It has been a long time since I've looked into it, but my understanding is many mental illnesses have a genetic component and environmental component. Stress can be a trigger (the environmental component). I recall this being demonstrated in my anthropology classes during the 90s by more women in the USA developing schizophrenia while more men did in Ireland (I can't remember if the Irish male study was from an earlier decade, it may have been). It was theorized at the time to be because of the stress these groups were exposed to in relation to other members of their respective societies (I also think the age brackets were slightly different. While schizophrenia can develop at any age, I think in the USA at the time it tended to show in the early 20s, while in Ireland it late 20s/early 30s). Keep in mind I am dealing with memories and information from 20 years ago so accuracy may not be great.
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jozie
September 6, 2014 at 3:38 PM
Or look at it another way, you can get almost anyone to have hallucinations by influencing their environment. Deprive people of food, water and sleep will often equal hallucinations. Give people drugs, most people will hallucinate. These are just extreme stimulus. However, most people will hallucinate with a lot less, camouflage basically tricks your eye/brain into not seeing something. It can be argued that camouflage causes most people to hallucinate. Some people are biologically more prone to waking hallucinations (dreams being another hallucination that is socially acceptable), so appear not to need external triggers at all (start as children in what seem to be normal conditions and without any other illnesses) but some have triggers. They are not necessarily situations that would cause someone else to hallucinate, and they do not stop after the initial environmental stimulation has been removed, but maybe this scenario shows that a lot of things are more a spectrum than yes or no.
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Peridot
September 6, 2014 at 3:59 PM
Yes, I also know that hallucinations can be caused by a variety of factors. I have no problem with Jayeol having hallucinations; I guess I was just a little uncertain about the schizophrenia diagnosis. As you mentioned, many things can cause hallucinations; hallucinations are not exclusive to schizophrenia.
Thank you for your insights :).
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jozie
September 6, 2014 at 4:22 PM
True enough, I had a friend when I was younger who had a major psychotic incident when he was younger that lasted 2 years. His life actually had a lot in common with JY's. He was not schizophrenic, and eventually stopped having hallucinations during the third year after a major triggering incident.
jozie
September 6, 2014 at 4:28 PM
And I am not even sure if we know if what we call schizophrenia is one disease or a group of diseases with similar symptoms but different causes. Anyone know?
jozie
September 6, 2014 at 4:37 PM
According to Wiki: Symptoms associated with schizophrenia occur along a continuum in the population and must reach a certain severity before a diagnosis is made.[1] As of 2013 there is no objective test.[67]
soad
September 6, 2014 at 6:54 PM
I had worked in a mental institution as a nurse before and I would say that schizophrenia is a broad term to be used as a diagnosis. There are subtypes to it and I think JY may be classified as having undifferentiated type of schizo. He shows symptoms such as hallucination (of KW), lack of will to live, depression and avolition. If I remember correctly, JY was asked by HS if what is death to him means and he said being unable to write. For him, writing is his life and the drama showed that he was unable to do so for the past 3 years. Being an OCD too has a high risk of being schizophrenic too. His childhood experience plus feelings of guilt for 14 years may have triggered to develop schizophrenia.
He is highly functioning before despite the things that happened to him in the past so most likely he will be able to cope up and be managed as long as he accepts that his hallucination is not real and he is willing to be healed (but no healing just management cause schizo is a chronic mental illness).
For him to cope up, he needs support from his significant others and I think the most impact of support that he should get is support from his brother.
So it looks like we will be having a good if not happy ending.
jozie
September 6, 2014 at 7:18 PM
Thanks Soad!
Peridot
September 7, 2014 at 6:28 AM
@soad, thanks for this information :). Yes, I had read briefly about the subtypes of schizophrenia and I like your suggestion as to where Jaeyeol might fit.
18 leesolhee
September 6, 2014 at 10:37 PM
ALS is just part of his illusions. He created this illusion of sick Kang Woo with ALS who he subconsciously knows will die eventually. That's where the risk of suicide comes. When Kang Woo dies, he might then succumb to suicide.
But anyways, this drama has been now my favorite. Setting aside the K-drama stereotypes, this one is the real thing. Great plot, great life lessons and picked out the best actors. Jo Insung and Gong Hyojin has been always my favorite!
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19 ela1023
September 7, 2014 at 6:19 AM
I feel broken after watching Ep 13 and 14. The actors are just incredible.
But, what I wanted to say was how great it is to read the comments with everyone's discussions about schizophrenia and other mental illnesses. I think this drama will lead a lot of people to read up on and try to understand these issues.
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Peridot
September 7, 2014 at 6:32 AM
I agree. I've done some reading in the past and have watched documentaries on the earlier forms of 'treatment' for people with mental illnesses. My interests have been renewed. But I would be more interested in finding out treatments from the alternative side of medicine. I remember coming across an article that talked about the effect of gluten (and of eliminating it from the diet) of patients with schizophrenia. I don't remember much, but I might look for it again when I have the time. I know many people call alternative medicine "quack medicine" because of the influence of the media. There are definitely crooks out there, but I also do not like the medical establishment. That is another discussion, lol!
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20 Adal
September 7, 2014 at 11:18 AM
Who would've thought that Soo Kwang would be supportive and so sweet? I didn't know he had it in him, as he was always on the receiving end of support, not the giver. This episode and the next are so sad and really broke my heart.
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