That's absolutely ridiculous. KBS really needs to get it together and come up with something original. Like you guys pointed out, they should have just paid Na PD more to stay! Even if the program isn't produced in house that's no excuse to broadcast a copycat program .

Really? Haha, alright, good luck then.

Isn't it an unwritten rule somewhere that we will not do this to one another, and will pay/license the concept? Why risk your reputation and be the laughing stock of the town?

Wait.... so you mean Na PD took his whole crew over for the change? Damn.... dude is awesome.

Oh KBS. I wouldn't wanna be associated with you.

Hahaha. So the problem of creativity plagues varietyland like dramaland. Interesting...
Seriously, when you have someone with talent, notoriety and such an address book, you treat him well and you keep it with you. Those heads who only see $$ should learn a thing or too about friendship and bromance and loyalty. Backstabbing is not nice!.

they should realize that it's Na PD and his crew who brings the magic. I mean, look at where 1N2D is now with a different PD.

i giess this says a lot about the kind of person Na PD is. I noticed a familiar face in an episode of GOF. it was the same PD who Eun Ji Won was like 'gimme gimme' to a morsel of food she was eating when Sugeun wagered ramyun and sleeping rights. *sniff I miss the real 1n2d again... ?

KBS...sigh. I am not surprised though. They have also used Eat Your Videos without permission ... after the guys who run the website refused to collaborate with them.

this totally remind me of simon and martina debacle.. ohh kbs...

this is seem shameless esp doing by big broadcaster, it's true the basic idea is the same as 1n2d but it still weird and plus with dad show. Copycat other show that has been popular happen everywhere including my country, i'm not surprise.

But KBS drama is still the best for me, they make better drama with more original idea more than other broadcast

If KBS doesn't care how this copy cat move makes them look, would they care when their copy cat show (Mama Too) FLOPS? After all 1N2D that worked so spectacularly under Na PD has flopped just as spectacularly without him. The idea is impt, but so is the execution. They will look Really stupid, won't they?

Oh korea you and your copy cat issues.. Korea has this strange law on intellectual copyright not entirely connected to this but on other aspects of korean media. They are not like "im inspired to do this but created a whole different version" Instead "hey thats the trend today or thats has ratingslets do that! Trigger happy copying lol

that's a pathetic move, KBS. couldn't you have come up with something else that doesn't make you look stupid? sigh.

Are.you.serious.
Wow what a shame KBS. I can't believe they're actually copying Gramps Over Flowers.. I think grandmas would be quite annoying. They don't have that cuteness only grandpas have. And I didn't really like Kim Sunmi's variety personality in Running Man, it really annoyed me. To think that they woykd cast her..
I used to think KBS was the best but that was only when the original 1N2D was alive.. Now KBS is really failing.
If I had one word to describe this whole thing it would be: ANNOYING
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Ugh. Disgusting move KBS. Disgusting.

Just ridiculous

The same happens between the main Lithuanian networks in my country, it's just that they somehow manage to "create" several almost the same fresh ideas at the same time for their new seasons... Ridiculous...

Well... from a commercial perspective. Na PD wouldn't want to say anything that burns bridges with KBS.

Although, at this point, KBS should be on their knees begging.

Btw, anyone's got any idea where Bird PD went? I kinda miss him. :(

That is low kbs.... tsk tsk tsk....

Difference of grandpas from grandmas:

Grandmas can and will serve and cook for anyone younger than themselves. They can talk themselves out of anything and will do anything they want and/or think they can do.

Grandpas on the other hand will sit, chill and relax while waiting to be served by younger people... they give orders and expect everyone to follow them(except probably their wives). Not that they cant do anything by themselves but its just the way it is in asian cultures.

Im not saying that a show with grandmas wont be entertaining, but the show dynamics has to be different from that of the existing one. They need to think up their own concept and quit copying... think "new" writers and pd's....

*facepalms*

If I were an actor being courted to feature in KBS' copycat show... I'd run in the opposite direction. Nobody would like to star in an infamous copycat show. It'd be akin to being in the news for ALL the wrong reasons. I concur with the previous posters... Variety show with Grandmas will just not be the same. :S

Yeah, that's just not right. On the other hand, the execution could be like 1N2D nowadays so it can either be so fun to make fun or just plain irritatingly boring.

I bet KBS won't success with their copycat shows since they don't have proper PD and crews. They even couldn't find someone to replace Bird PD.
So now i know that 1n2d cancellation isn't just rumor. Yeah, just finish it. You've wasted great talent of your members.
And i wonder if they will ask CTH and Suchan (his son) for A dad's qualifications?
If yes, i hope they'll say NO.

Hey Samsung's awesome! But uh that aside, I don't think grandmas will be as fun because they probably already know how to do everything themselves. Seriously my mum takes care of everything to the point where I'm just like wtf

Of all the recent KBS varieties, Our Neighbourhood Our Neighborhood Arts and Physical Education and Mamma Mia is slowly gaining momentum, especially the latter while Mamma Mia have tough time in the Sunday slot due to vs Running Man and Dad Where are you Going on rival SBS & MBC.

Other than that... 1N2D ain't doing well. Its not bad but we have all seen better days... Happy Together is chugging along...

But the copycat ideas... I mean so much drama everytime a song plagiarism came about... Though these ideas are in the drawing board but if they are to go ahead... can anyone sue for plagiarism?

Ooh and hydrox vs Oreo... I actually google it...coz I am a trivia nut!

look look look. for you people that frown on copycats. tsk tsk tsk. so ironic, bordering hypocrisy. why is apple suing samsung? for copying apple's ideas. and yet people are hating apple because samsung is eating up their market share. that's competition! at the end of the day, the consumers win. just like kbs allegedly doing copycats of other successful shows. so what?! if kbs can do better, why not?! at the end of the day, the viewers win. more shows, more choices.

Sigh. That goes to show that NA PD and the production crew are just THAT good. While it would be interesting to see a grandma version, I was actually looking forward to NA PD doing a grandma version at a later time, his awesome evilness just makes it different. Oh well. Mamma mia is pretty interesting and fun to watch, having all the mother and child topics with the humour factor. Totally agree that the show has it tough cause they're on the Sunday timeslot with the other programs. Hmm. Qualifications of dad reminds me of qualifications of men which got cancelled :X The second thing that came to my mind was the gag concert skit on fathers, a pity that there doesn't seem to be any kbs comedians in the casting as of now.

I'm glad Grandpa over Flowers is on TvN, I think cable gets lots of creative freedom.

mmm it makes me wonder if Na PD was seriously the ONLY talented PD in variety over at KBS.

NO. wait. I think anyone else talented followed him over to TvN since there are some familiar faces :P

Well, I've followed 1N2D from the beginning to the end (end for me = departure of NaPD and basically the original cast). And I don't think Na PD's talents lie just in editing or concept, although he has serious knacks for both and his timing is so straight on. His casting choices are just so GOOD! granted, that might just be editing too. But I think he casts keeping in mind different characteristics for each member. I get so annoyed when there's overlap in character. It's really a disservice to the celebrity than the viewer really.

I think KBS is long overdue for an overhaul in their variety. I think they realized this when they announced a large list of "new pilot varieties" but is it really "new" if the concept is just redone with different people? EH.

they should really look at MBC. MBC was in a similar situation since they were basically floundering in every variety format/show after I Am A Singer began to lose steam. Sat and Sun is usually primetime variety days. And other than Infinity Challenge, it had nothing really going. Then they did a really drastic change and made completely new reality/variety show formatting and poof! Dad and Real Men were born. It took a while. But I have to say, at least they didn't so blatantly rip off idea after idea while they were transitioning. Either way, the new "hit" reality show usually cycles. And quite honestly, how long can shows like Dad and Real Men last before the sheen wears off and becomes redundant? (basically, KBS reusing these ideas would basically wear the concept out that much faster) maybe a reason Na PD pushes for a seasonal variety setup? well, that and so many other reasons to be honest.

Honestly, the only 2 variety PDs who have big flashy names are Kim Tae Ho (infinite challenge) and Na PD. Both are such evil geniuses. I can definitely bet that Kim Tae Ho has been offered lucrative deals by other networks. And probably the only things which are keeping him (with the exception of the amazing teamwork he has with the cast) it would entail saying goodbye to his show. WHICH is so GENIUS as a variety show format, how could he?? It gives him automatic free reign to experiment new formats and ideas without a big production. It's a built-in aspect of the show. And in doing so, new sides of the members and characters are in constant creation, so even long-time viewers rarely get bored for too long. And i can bet, when he was recreating this show in the beginning with Yoo JaeSuk (after taking over in the beginning when it flailed), they both probably realized not only the potential but the greater amount of creative freedom this format would allow. And it also lets them effectively adapt, set, and even parody new variety trends, which keeps them staying current and feeling fresh even though it's one of the longest running shows. The only way it will end, i feel, is if the cast leaves or the PD leaves or both (a la 1N2D).

In a sense, Na PD probably not only left for money, but I would think, more creative freedom and flexibility. He seems like the type who would enjoy trying new concepts and ideas more than just sticking to what is safe and hot at that moment. trying new things and sometimes failing is the only way you get ahead and become the new trend, if that's what networks want. (seriously, MBC is the PRIME example right now). but i guess, not everyone at KBS is as adventurous.

On another tangent, KBS's Our Neighborhood Arts and Physical Education is being led by 1N2D's "Rookie/Newbiw PD" (i think)! I saw some of the earlier eps since the format was stripped down and more refreshing. the PD only communicated via text but then, every now and again, there were glimpses of Rookie PD acting as head PD! I guess his original wish of music programs never came true hahaha. The show is doing well comparative to other KBS programs, but it's still got a long way to go. And really, how long until it's becomes the "same 'ol" right?

Ah, well. I like how Na PD thinks everything and speaks with such grace while others would have cursed the h*ll out of KBS. Popular things tend to spur copycats - they had a girls' version of 1N2D once which didn't really do well I think. I don't like the idea of copycats, really. It somehow just doesn't work without a brilliant evil genius' mind behind it. His casting (of members) was spot on (see 1N2D s1 in its glory days). It's like he thought of the dynamics the members will have with each other and somehow turn it to his advantage.

Also, I think he likes to experiment with new things, which is one of the traits I want the current 1N2D PD to have (who goes with old 1N2D traditions of being dressed in costumes, ditching a member on the road, bokbulbok wheels, etc but just doesn't wring as much laughter and entertainment back in the old days. To PD: It DOESN'T work that way). Na PD's (and team) greatest strength lies in the ability to assess each members' personality, strengths and weaknesses, and then use them to make EACH of the members stand out.

I'm happy that GoF is doing well, but....no updated subs T_T

Wow I can't believe how shameless they are, I only recently learned that they took a bunch of videos from a certain youtube duo without permission and aired it. I mean...really...really now

As soon as I read the title of the article I was like "would this even work?" No matter where in the world you strand them, there is no way a group of 80 year old women would be as helpless as a group of 80 year old men. They will cook for themselves, they will actually think about where the money is coming from and going, they will always insist that they are "fine" no matter how much you make them suffer.

It could possibly be fun for the opposite reason that GOF is fun. Instead of watching some youngun struggle to take care of a bunch of spoiled old men. You'd have some youngun' struggling to get a bunch of old women to let him/her take care of them. I can imagine a scene where the handler gets up at six in the morning to prepare breakfast for the grandmas, only to find that they have all been up for an hour and managed to concoct a full breakfast with sides and everything from hotel offerings. And chastising him/her for wasting half the day asleep.

Still copycatting is lame but I wouldn't mind watching a show like that. Grampas are pretty docile until they are tired or hungry. But Grandmas... that is a real challenge.

I'm a bit sad while I am happy there are more all-female variety shows, sometimes they just don't work out well as their male counterparts or are as popular. Is Infinity Girls still a thing? I hardly see anyone talk about it.

Oh KBS. I'm disappointed.

Given how childish a lot of the people in charge of these entertainment companies behave whenever there's some kind of challenge, this move doesn't surprise me at all. There seems to be a serious lack of maturity there. That being said, I suppose this is a little like Hollywood's reluctance to make movies that aren't based on existing properties like books, comics, etc. right now. They're afraid of taking chances because they don't want to lose more money but they don't seem to appreciate that the fact that there's an existing version of something doesn't guarantee that people will support your version.

I had a feeling a Grandma version was going to pop up. But I didn't expect it to be anytime soon. I thought maybe tvN will do a Grandma version after the Grandpa. I hope it's as hilarious as the Grandpa. :)

well, if they're gonna do a grandmas edition, then they'd BETTER add kim sumi. she's a saucy lady for sure, and i love irreverent grandmas. will definitely tune in for this, but i agree, it's rather tacky.

I would like to see a "grandmas over flowers" show. But it makes me sad that the Grandpa over flowers folks aren't the ones doing the show.

Grandmas I'd like to see:
Kim Hye Ja (Queen Mother in Goong)
Kim Hae Sook (Mom from I Hear Your Voice)

I think its the people that are making the decisions at KBS lately who are to blame. Without KBS there would not have been any original 1N2D as we knew it nor any Na PD (though with his evil genius he would have popped up somewhere else no doubt) or KBS World that thoughtfully caters to those who need english subs & they even put up a free channel on Youtube with alot of their programs.
So what I'm saying is KBS has done a lot of good though with this kind of blatant imitation, like all fakes, will receive more scorn than admiration.
I guess I have a soft spot still for the "mothership" that produced the original 1N2D & The Human Condition (which is so excellent, I can't even...). Both have Na PD's influence (in fact you can spot Na PD in the first few episodes of The Human Condition before he left KBS) & its my hope Korean variety only comes up with more evil geniuses & smart head honchos coz those halbaes are going to keep Mr. Na busy for some time!