Memories of the Alhambra: Episode 12
by LollyPip
Even with the chance to take a break from the game that seems out to get him, our beleaguered hero doesn’t get a chance to rest. His enemies outside the game seem equally determined to take him out of the action, forcing him to take drastic action. He’s still determined to clear his name and save the game’s young creator, but it’s looking more and more like he may have to make a choice between the two.
EPISODE 12 RECAP
Desperate for just one ally, Jin-woo tells Hee-joo to prove that she believes him about the game, and that he’s not crazy. She asks how, so he leans down, pulls her close, and kisses her.
Hee-joo tries to sneak into her house later (HA, her hair is a mess), but Grandma hears her come in. She complains that she and Min-joo waited for hours to cut Hee-joo’s birthday cake, and that even Sang-bum was looking for her, but Hee-joo says vaguely that she was with a friend.
She goes up to her room and texts Jin-woo, asking him to let her know when he gets back to his hotel room. He doesn’t reply, so later she texts again to ask if he got back okay, but again there’s no response. At 3 a.m. she tries calling him, but his phone is still in his empty hotel room, so Hee-joo runs out to go find him.
What she finds is Jin-woo, sitting in his car outside her house, and he looks pretty sheepish as he admits that he didn’t want to go back to his hotel alone. Hee-joo invites him to sleep in her workshop, and Jin-woo jokes that this is moving awfully fast when they’ve only been in a relationship for four hours.
He tells her to sit with him for a few minutes then he’ll go, but she slips into the backseat and swipes his keys, saying that she won’t be able to sleep if he leaves. She orders him to do as she says since he bought her a cheap meal and didn’t give her a birthday gift, and Jin-woo has no choice but to obey.
A while later, Hee-joo sneaks down to the workshop, where Jin-woo is still lying awake. She sits next to him and says the couch must be uncomfortable, and he says it is, and dusty, too. He whines that his car was more comfortable and that being her boyfriend is a chore, making Hee-joo pout, but he adds that he’s staying anyway because he’s her boyfriend.
Hee-joo calls him weird, and he says that since he’s no longer “CEO Yoo,” she needs to call him something else. She cheekily decides to call him “Ajusshi” since he’s so old, and Jin-woo grumbles that he’s already worried about his future in this relationship, ha.
She gets up to make tea, but she stops to say that she thinks Director Park is right about Jin-woo leaving the country for a while. He flat-out refuses, so Hee-joo backs down. Min-joo catches Hee-joo in the kitchen making two cups of tea, and Hee-joo literally tackles her before she can run to the workshop, sure that Jin-woo is here.
Alone, Jin-woo thinks about his conversation with Director Park, where he was warned that Professor Cha is coming after him. Then the thunder cracks and the guitar thrums, and NPC Hyung-seok shows up in the workshop. But… the servers are down…
Secretary Seo’s death has brought back all the speculation in the news about Jin-woo’s possible involvement in Hyung-seok’s death a year ago. We’re taken back to the day in 2014 that Professor Cha kicked Hyung-seok out of the company, calling after him that he was the traitor.
Hyung-seok had gone to see Soo-jin at her medical practice and had proposed to her right there, no longer willing to keep their relationship a secret. He’d argued that they’d been seeing each other for six months already, but Soo-jin had countered that her divorce was only a month past.
Hyung-seok hadn’t cared about gossip or hurting Jin-woo, and his pushing had made Soo-jin suggest they take some time apart, saying that she wasn’t sure what she wanted. He’d grown furious, assuming that Soo-jin regretted leaving Jin-woo, but his fury was interrupted by a call from Jin-woo.
Jin-woo had wanted to go for a drink with Hyung-seok and Director Park and talk things out, but Hyung-seok had snapped that he didn’t need his pity and was busy with the woman he was going to marry. He’d snarled Soo-jin’s name, deliberately destroying any chance of repairing the rift between him and Jin-woo, adding that Jin-woo stole his father so he stole Jin-woo’s woman.
After marrying Soo-jin, Hyung-seok had gone for drinks with Yu-ra one night, sure that Soo-jin and Jin-woo had met up and were going to reconcile. Yu-ra had claimed to be sure that Jin-woo was out with friends, but she’d told Jin-woo to stop living with so much anxiety and give up, like she had.
More recently, Yu-ra told Professor Cha that she’s not surprised Hyung-seok was so insecure — he married a woman who cheated on her husband and was scared she’d do it to him. Hyung-seok used to call Yu-ra constantly asking Jin-woo’s whereabouts, and had developed a serious drinking problem. Yu-ra said to Professor Cha that she told Hyung-seok he had nothing to worry about, but that she actually had no idea.
Now Professor Cha invites Soo-jin to his office to talk, and he openly calls her a whore. He tells her to stop acting like she’s so elegant and refined or he’ll teach her a lesson.
Hee-joo calls everyone who knows Se-joo to see if they’ve heard from him, but no luck. Grandma calls her into the living room to see that Jin-woo is on the news yet again, but Hee-joo insists that he didn’t kill anyone. Upset, she turns off the TV and storms back to her workshop.
Jin-woo calls Hee-joo and tells her to put on something pretty, because he’s taking her on a date. She takes her sweet time with her PPL lipstick and earrings, and on her way out of the house she narrowly misses Sang-bum, who came over for dinner.
Grandma is watching the news again, though she’s still positive Jin-woo is innocent, but Sang-bum growls that the police are investigating him for a reason. Grandma goes on and on about how pitiful Jin-woo is with everything that’s gone wrong for him, until Sang-bum blows up.
Hee-joo finds Jin-woo sitting in his car waiting for her, but he just stares at her blankly. He complains about her fancy earrings, saying that she’s prettier when she’s plain and that he regrets telling her to dress up. Hee-joo gets in the car but refuses to talk to him, then snaps that he gave her these earrings for her birthday last year. Oops.
Jin-woo doubles down, saying that they looked pretty when he bought them and suggesting they exchange them. Hee-joo pouts that he’s stingy and says she likes them and wore them for herself, an obvious lie, so Jin-woo laughs that he’ll buy her another pair.
Hee-joo asks if he shouldn’t be meeting with his lawyers, but Jin-woo says casually that the rumors are false so there’s no point. They’re delayed at a check point, and Jin-woo is automatically logged into the game again. When the cop asks for his ID, he’s alerted that an enemy has appeared, and he ducks to avoid an in-game gunshot. But the servers are down!
Jin-woo looks around frantically for the shooter, then takes a game bullet to the shoulder. He hits the gas, screeching off and causing the police to chase after him. Shots continue to be fired at him as Hee-joo begs him to stop, then he slams the brakes and skids to a halt.
The game tells him that the server was disconnected. What the hell is happening?? After making sure that Hee-joo is okay, Jin-woo calls Yang-joo to ask if he reopened the server. Yang-joo says they did for a little bit, just to run a test — whew, that explains that.
Meanwhile, Hee-joo talks to the cops, who recognize Jin-woo and let them go, obviously thinking that Jin-woo is cracking up. They tell Hee-joo to drive, and with the police still watching, Jin-woo is forced to hand over his keys. As she drives, Hee-joo says that Jin-woo really did seem ill while reacting to the game, but Jin-woo says with a weak smile that she’s mistaken.
Over dinner, Hee-joo is worried that Jin-woo should be at home preparing for his questioning. He says he has a plan, but that he doesn’t want to have to use it because it will break his heart. Hee-joo asks what that plan is, but Jin-woo deliberately doesn’t answer.
Min-joo calls Hee-joo sobbing — Sang-bum told Grandma that Se-joo is missing and his emails have all been lies, and Grandma collapsed. Jin-woo drives Hee-joo to the hospital, where she confronts Sang-bum for telling Grandma all that. Sang-bum argues that Grandma needs to know the truth, but Hee-joo snaps that that’s her decision and that she’s still looking for Se-joo.
As Jin-woo rounds the corner, Sang-bum says loudly that Se-joo is probably dead, just like others near Jin-woo have died. He accuses Jin-woo of killing Se-joo to get control of his game, then covering up his tracks while claiming to look for him.
Hee-joo tells Sang-bum to leave, repeating that he overstepped in telling Grandma the truth about Se-joo. After she goes in to see Grandma, Sang-bum sees Jin-woo, who tells him to keep walking and not fight today.
Hee-joo reassures Grandma that Se-joo is probably just fine. Grandma is heartbroken that she didn’t know the truth for a year, and she’s terrified that Se-joo is dead, but Hee-joo promises that she’s trying her best to find him.
Hee-joo calls Min-joo and tells her that she’ll be home in the morning, then sends Jin-woo home as well. Later, Min-joo is watching TV (100 Days My Prince, hee) when the doorbell rings. Awww, Jin-woo went to their house to keep Min-joo company. I love their friendship.
Min-joo (all smiles now that her favorite person is here) brings Jin-woo blankets so he can sleep on the couch, then heads up to bed. She stops to ask him if Se-joo is dead, but he doesn’t have an answer to her question, so he just doesn’t say anything.
In the morning, Hee-joo arrives home to find Jin-woo still there. He’s making toast, the only thing he can cook, and he quips that mornings must be hard since Min-joo isn’t easy to wake up. Hee-joo stares, surprised by the sight of Jin-woo taking care of someone else, and he jokes that she can imagine how he must feel, ha.
Hee-joo asks Jin-woo if he’s supposed to be at his questioning today. He just reminds her that he has a plan and that he feels like he shouldn’t hold back anymore. His plan seems to involve not showing up at all, which works the reporters into a frenzy.
Professor Cha is teaching a class when Jin-woo walks into his classroom, causing a minor uproar among the students. Professor Cha dismisses the class and asks Jin-woo how his defense is coming along, lying through his teeth as he says that he told the company he doesn’t want to be involved.
Jin-woo sneers that he’s heard about false evidence claiming that he’s been begging Soo-jin to come back to him, an that he talked frequently about killing Hyung-seok. He asks if Professor Cha offered Yu-ra shares of the company in exchange for her testimony, and chuckles that Professor Cha is so prepared, he’ll likely end up in prison.
Professor Cha asks if Jin-woo wants him to stop, but Jin-woo says that actually, he’s here to prove, right now, that he’s not insane or lying. Professor Cha asks haughtily why he didn’t prove it sooner, and Jin-woo says that he didn’t want to go that far so he’s been trying to find another way.
He tells Professor Cha to log into the game and form an alliance with him. Oooh, smart! He says that Professor Cha can verify the truth right now if he does this, and that he’s only been hesitating to do it this way for fear that Professor Cha would end up like Secretary Seo.
He continues with a resigned sigh that he’s now willing to prove that he’s a victim of the game. But proving it to the police would mean bankrupting J.One, so he decided to show Professor Cha in the hopes that he would drop the charges against him.
He tells Professor Cha that since he doesn’t believe him anyway, then there’s no reason for him to be unwilling to try it. So Professor Cha calls the company and orders them to turn the game server back on. He puts in his own smart contacts and logs on as the server goes online (it’s his first log-in, interestingly, and Jin-woo’s 3,494th).
Professor Cha requests an alliance, and Jin-woo hesitates for a moment. Professor Cha taunts that he should just kneel and beg forgiveness, but Jin-woo only says that he regrets that it’s come to this, then accepts the alliance. He says with a note of regret in his voice, “Starting now, you and I will share the same fate, since we are allies. We’ll die and survive together. Stay with me to the end.”
The smug expression on Professor Cha’s face drops as he suddenly sees the storm outside, and Jin-woo says that to stay alive, he should get as far away from him as possible and delete his user ID. He tells Professor Cha not to shut down the server until he completes his quest, and that until then, nobody is allowed to log onto the game besides himself and those he allows.
He warns Professor Cha to obey his instructions unless he wants to go bankrupt, and to pass this along to Director Park as well. Professor Cha looks terrified, flinching at every thunderclap, by the time the game gives the alert that an enemy is near and the guitar starts to play.
Nearby, NPC Hyung-seok appears and starts towards Jin-woo. Professor Cha breathes his son’s name, and Hyung-seok pauses, then turns towards the new player. As Hyung-seok nears, Professor Cha’s expression changes from awe to fear, and Hyung-seok raises his sword to strike.
Hee-joo goes to Jin-woo’s hotel room, but he’s not there. She sits on the couch, recalling that he said his plan is to keep looking for Se-joo, and that he needs her help. After a moment, she hears the strumming of a guitar, and she turns around in surprise.
Behind her is Emma, playing her guitar the same way she does in the cafe in Granada. Hee-joo approaches Emma as Jin-woo’s voice tells us, “Now my last quest begins. We are getting closer to the end of this story. Memories of the Alhambra.”
Emma looks up at Hee-joo and smiles.
COMMENTS
Holey moley, but I love how every episode of this drama leaves me guessing! How did Emma get into Jin-woo’s hotel room, and how is Hee-joo seeing her? My guess is that Jin-woo’s request for help was for Hee-joo to go there wearing the smart lenses, and that he somehow arranged for Emma to appear there once Professor Cha turned the server back on. I’ve long since believed that Emma holds some critical key, an important piece of information or clue that will help bring Se-joo home, and maybe Hee-joo is the only one who can unlock or understand it.
The change in Jin-woo from the confident, almost arrogant businessman to this scared, small man in the last few episodes is just heartbreaking. I don’t know that I’m really “feeling” the romance any more than dramallama is, but intellectually I can understand why Jin-woo is drawn to Hee-joo and her to him. Jin-woo liked her a year ago for her spirit in the face of opposition (not to mention she’s super pretty), and now he’s in a place where absolutely everyone he cares about is either dead — probably at his own hand — or thinks he’s lost his mind. Hee-joo is the one person who treats Jin-woo normally, not like he’s a pitiful cripple or a dangerous madman, and there’s a lot of comfort and security to be found in that belief. And Hee-joo sees a man who needs to be loved, who needs someone on his side, and there’s just enough of a connection between him and her old life (and her brother) to spark that interest in her. Sometimes love isn’t about grand romance — sometimes it’s just about finding someone who’ll be by your side when you need them, and that’s all.
It’s so heartbreaking to see that when Hyung-seok was kicked out of the company by Professor Cha, Jin-woo tried to be a good friend and smooth things over. It probably would have gone bad between them once Hyung-seok and Soo-jin revealed their relationship anyway, and if it hadn’t, Hyung-seok’s descent into anxiety, paranoia, and alcoholism certainly would have. But things might have gone so differently if Hyung-seok hadn’t, in his anger and in that moment, thrown a bomb called I’m marrying your ex-wife before the ink is even dry on your divorce papers into the friendship and blown everything to smithereens. That’s what made the anger and hatred two-sided, and led to the confrontation in Granada that ultimately cost Hyung-seok his life.
So having said all that, it makes me incredibly happy to see Jin-woo fighting back, and his plan to prove his innocence is pretty incredible. The only way that anyone will believe him about the game is if they experience it for themselves, and using the game’s glitches to pull Professor Cha in and make him see the terror and helplessness that Jin-woo has been feeling is brilliant. Still, I appreciate that Jin-woo didn’t want to have to hurt Professor Cha or put him in danger to prove his sanity, and that he made the game alliance entirely Professor Cha’s choice so that he can’t say later that Jin-woo coerced or forced him into it. It proves that underneath his former arrogance and posturing, Jin-woo really is a decent man who cares about others, even those who have turned on him.
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1 Cat
January 7, 2019 at 10:06 PM
Can't wait for next week.
Seems like Heejoo is finally going to be in the game.
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cat-cric-kat
January 8, 2019 at 12:47 AM
That's the pivot. predictable puzzle used numerous times before.
This episode also provide cardboard cut character's Hee-Joo response to those who questioned her characteristics.
Just because a character is soft and not intimidating not makes them weak one. Don't consider someone's silence as their weakness.
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2 greenfields
January 7, 2019 at 10:17 PM
I found this episode quite slow until the last 10-15 minutes, and may or may not have relied (heavily) on the fast forward button to get there.
I have to say though - why does no one think PTSD would be a real life consequnce of this game? It's a game sure, but in the game-verse, the landscape of which is set out in our own real world, players are fighting these realistic opponents. They won't die if there's no flaw in the game - but even so, the hightened emotions and senses would be similar to a war-like situation IRL? It's not a game for the faint of heart.
As a lawyer, I'm ready to sue J. One for damages. The testers can come to me after its done. MUAHAHAHAHHAHAHA *is just kidding* XD
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Kairoskat 💐
January 7, 2019 at 10:45 PM
Sue all of them! Sue everyone who wanted to make this game live haha
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dil
January 8, 2019 at 3:23 AM
This drama has a more pivotal problem. Okay so the positives first: the game part is interesting. Now the negatives: FYI I have nothing against PSH but her character is so stupid and irritating. I hate Sang Beom but it’s not surprising at all why he thinks the entire situation is absurd as HELL and he must be really wondering what the hell is going on and why someone who used to be his friend is turning into an absurd lunatic. You see, Hee Joo cried more for Jinwoo than her own grandma who fainted after she learned that Se Joo’s been missing for a year. Hee Joo and her family are surprisingly nonchalant about their own underage family member missing for ONE YEAR. Hee Joo stays worrying all day long about Jinwoo but doesn’t worry for her own brother like that. Hee Joo seems so desperate for Jinwoo’s d*ck omfg. Dating is the last thing I’d be thinking about if I learned that my own brother was missing, lost inside an AR game. All she does is make guitars, calls random nobodies if Se Joo’s contacted them (as if he wouldn’t first try to reach his family) and worry about that CEO. We have no freaking idea why the hell she even likes him in the first place so I assume she feels intensely sexual about him to not even look for her own brother. If she really cared for Se Joo, why isn’t she extracting the truth out of Jinwoo and trying to play that game and look for her own damned blood related brother by playing that game and reaching the level 100?????? Instead she’s dressing up, going to dinners with Jinwoo, Doesn’t she even worry one bit if her brother is eating properly??????? Statistics say if a person has been missing more than a year, they are most likely dead. She knows people died in that game, including Se Joo’s crackhead friend. But noooooo she chooses to cancel her flight and actually believe Jinwoo that he’s alive just ’cause he said so, Jinwoo who’s an alcoholic and most likely on Xanax. And Hee Joo hasn’t even once seen or played that game but she believes him.
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greenfields
January 8, 2019 at 3:41 AM
I disagree with the way commentators are hating on Hee Joo. She hasn't been given anything to do - the writing failed the female lead and is focused entirely on the male lead - but to say she's desparate for Jinwoo's d*ck is a bit too much when she's displayed no real desire of that kind. Even their kiss was hilarious since Park Shin Hye leaned away from Hyun Bin.
Imo, far from having any sexual desires, Hee Joo is written as a paragon of virtue, standing selflessly by her man's side as he goes through a difficult time. Even Jin Woo seems surprised (last ep) by her devotion.
And here I agree with you: this is the problem with the romance the show is trying to sell - because their history doesn't support this complete and utterly confounding devotion.
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dil
January 8, 2019 at 4:04 AM
Yess you put it in a better way. That sexual attraction thing was my own speculation because I really have no idea why she likes him in the first place. Extreme case of nurturing instincts. Song Jae Jung, a woman herself, failed us with the poor writing of female characters. They’re either Madonnas or whores. Even Prof. Cha said directly that.
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Kafiyah Bello
January 8, 2019 at 6:02 AM
This!!!! The writer completely failed with the female lead, she is so badly written. I'm honestly confused as to why she played such a character. I maintain she was picked for her star power because Hyun Bin' s last drama was so so bad.
The romance is bad too. As I said last recap, I believe they have only actual been around each other up until now about 10 days, 3 of those days Jin Woo was sleeping. They have known of each other( can't even say they know each other) over a year but that's it.
This drama is Jin Woo's story. Everyone is secondary and tertiary, the random story tangents are filler and the characters are still secondary and tertiary. No movement and bad pacing.
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Alessar
January 8, 2019 at 10:22 AM
Compared to the female lead of W her character is basically a cardboard cut-out. PSH has got to be irritated as hell.
Evelyn
January 9, 2019 at 12:11 AM
Lol I've read your second para in the last recap too and couldn't stop laughing ='D
Though i honestly think PSH is alright picking these sort of roles as they usually guarantee some form of "success" (acting beside a big name like Hyun Bin, having it distributed on Netflix etc). It has to be her worst role though (even more so than Cha Eun Sang in Heirs).
the romance.. haha. someone above mentioned her leaning away from HB/JW. She not only leaned away, she looked disgusted/constipated. lol!
It indeed is JW's story. Everyone/everything revolves around him. This episode was really boring as well full of filler stuff and PPL nonsense (the whole random date scene and breakfast scene was just for them to advertise makeup, earrings and coffee), I only really focused on the last 10 minutes.
lacewng
January 8, 2019 at 6:36 PM
I can understand her devotion. Hee Joo and her grandma showed immense gratitude to JW. They moved away from home for better opportunities , instead suffered so much, lost so much. They were barely surviving before meeting him. He changed their life beyond their imagination. She was the provider most of her life. He was their savior. We knew he doesn't deserve it(at first), but they didn't. HJ then saw him at his weakest moments. Now, it was her turn to help him.So she did. When she realized he lied about the hotel/game, she was furious. But at that point, it was just not black and white anymore. Yes, it was short period. But they went through so much. They have every reason to care for each other. Sometime it comes across as she care more about them or him than saving her brother. It kinda feels insensitive. The issue is in the execution of their romance. But, I am still OK with these two caring for each other.
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zzthorn
January 8, 2019 at 3:02 PM
@dil Wait.... there really isn't much of anything "sexual" going on between the two main leads. Even the kiss was boring and just one step above platonic. Hee Joo seems to me to be using her identity roles to react to trauma. To her grandma and her younger brother, she has a role of responsibility over them - to take care of them when she is able. (her brother resists that) and therefore, she cannot break down when the grandma and brother are involved because of that responsibility. When it comes to Jin Woo, she alternates between being responsible and being vulnerable. When Jin Woo is at his weakest, she has to be at her strongest. When Jin Woo is strong, she can let down and shed those tears. I do not believe that just because she isn't breaking down over her grandma and brother that she doesn't care as much for them as she does Jin Woo. It is simply that she has different roles to play as we all do.
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lexyk
January 9, 2019 at 7:01 AM
This is my take on Hee Joo: I just feel like she is desperate to find her brother, like anybody in her situation would. But, what could she do other than hold on to that ounce of hope that Jin Woo gives her that her brother is alive? There is absolutely nothing she can do. The guy has been missing and no one else knows where it could be except for Jin woo: she HAS TO believe him, even if this whole thing seems surreal. And what else could she do? Entering the game would be too dangerous with the possibility of dying or disappearing, leaving her grandmother and little sister alone. Even if she assumes her brother is dead, what can she do? Does she just stop living? Dating is part of life after all... And I think she fell for JW from the beginning and it matches well with her personality: very mellow, caregiver type, a bit passive and naive, but still strong when she needs to. I understand there is a frustration with the way her character is written, which makes it feel like a side character rather than the heroine, but if we assume that really, this is JW's and the game' story, then we see that she is playing her side character's role pretty well. I think we all would have loved her to be part of the game (oh I wish she would be fighting along side JW), but then that would be a different drama altogether. My two cents!
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Amused
January 12, 2019 at 11:41 PM
I agree!
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Hun94
January 9, 2019 at 11:32 AM
is it possible to like your comment 100 times? if yes that would be great.
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Luna Schimidt
January 10, 2019 at 7:10 AM
Someone give @dil an award!
"Hee joo cried more for Jinwood that her own grandma who fainted...."
EXACTLY!
Her character purpose is just to be the love interest to Jinwoo.
It would have been awesome if she was in the game from the start.
As I said before I"m still in on this drama because of the game plot.
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3 Kairoskat 💐
January 7, 2019 at 10:18 PM
I only watched raw and only the final 10 minutes caught my attention hahaha.
Reading the recap the encounter with Papa Cha makes sense in some way, eventhough he could have done that earlier.
Nevertheless, i look foward to what will happen next.
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4 FiyaShady
January 7, 2019 at 10:20 PM
Zinu finally realized the bitter reality. Should have been use the card a long while ago. Hoping for better closure for next 4 eps 🤞🤞🤞
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mmmmm
January 8, 2019 at 10:16 AM
Yes, I too had the feeling that this card could have been used a while ago. It does make sense though why he didn't want to use it..
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Annie
January 8, 2019 at 6:33 PM
Some episodes ago, Jin Woo could have proved to director Park that he was not crazy, but he didn't want to put his friend in danger, this is why he didn't let director Park play the game. It turns out he was considerate to prof. Cha, too, until he could not stand it any more.
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lacewng
January 8, 2019 at 7:04 PM
Doesn't that make him a better man? Some one mentioned before that he is very arrogant to ask for help. But it is his sense of responsibility stopping him. He didn't know at first how dangerous the game was. He cant willingly put people in the same situation after knowing. He care for Director Park, so he refused to include him. Sec Seo was already in the game when he asked JW to be his ally and JW didn't know what being an ally means at that time. The only way he can make Prof. Cha see what he sees is to make Prof Cha his ally. It is not only the danger involved, it is also too cruel to Prof. Cha. Imagine killing his own son over and over. He will be reliving his son's death over and over. JW was hesitating till the very last moment. I think that's what he meant when he said he didn't want it come to that. He was ready to put his life in danger, not others. But Prof. Cha didn't leave him a choice. He forced JW to took a side, a very unpleasant one.
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5 seoul_searcher
January 7, 2019 at 10:21 PM
The last few minutes of the episode seemed to pick up and now I’m anxiously waiting for next weeks episodes. Finally prof. Cha knows about the game and his scared expression was quite satisfying to watch especially because he kept being snarky at Jin Woo. Also Emma and Hee Joo? I curious for how that came about. Is she finally going to be let into the game world
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6 dieyb
January 7, 2019 at 10:25 PM
nothing much to say..
am just can't wait for the next episode. XDD
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7 gadis
January 7, 2019 at 10:25 PM
Fiuuuh... finally we are here, with Hee-joo ready to take some action as well. It took longer than I expected. I'm just glad that she seemed to finally get a knack on how to "force" Jin-woo to listen to her and actually give her some answers. Though I'm facepalming over here because the writer has conveniently forgotten for the last several eps about some of Hee-joo's better character traits and instead turned her into a damsel in love. The last 2 eps finally gave me the kind of dynamic I wanted to see brtween Hee-joo and Jin-woo. And now that she has met Emma, I hope those 2 girls will have more active role in this last quest. I want them to save the day and make Jin-woo regretting his decision to not inform her about this wayward game much earlier.
Though for all that complaining, I think it matched Jin-woo's streak of stubborness that only now he caved in and chose to prove his sanity to other people by making them his allies. I do wish he involved more of his trusted people to solve the game's error, but I get the sense that Jin-woo desperately wanted to correct his mistake in buying this faulty game by himself. Maybe it's a combination of his sense of responsibility and also a bit of arrogance that he can fixed it alone. I just hope that Hee-joo will be equally "stubborn" in asserting her right as a part of her brother's rescue mission. It would be good for Jin-woo to learn that there are some things he couldn't solve alone, however determined he is.
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vlkBadWolf
January 7, 2019 at 10:31 PM
In addition to "his sense of responsibility and also a bit of arrogance" I think that he did not involve more of his trusted people because 1) at first he did not trust his own sanity and 2) later he was worried about their safety.
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siesta
January 8, 2019 at 4:47 AM
this.
it's a relief that after all the stress he's been in, JW's not heartless enough to put anymore innocent people in danger after seeing what happened to Sec. Seo. lesser men would've probably caved sooner just to get someone to share their pain
out of context of the game, there's no way he could've explained what he experienced without sounding insane. he did actually told people about seeing HS in the game in the beginning but naturally, nobody believed him
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mmmmm
January 8, 2019 at 10:24 AM
I, too, agree with you. Though I also agree with @gadis who is still in the Alhambra world that JW is indeed stubborn, I don't see not trying to prove his sanity by involving more people in the game would be a clever choice. In the normal state of the game, people can kill ordinary NPCs and be killed by them and coming out ok in to the real world. However, only by being being JW's allies can ones see what he's been facing.. and once they see it, they might be make it out of the game alive. The only thing which I think doesn't make sense here is that how come other players haven't experienced what JW has.. Surely with a couple of month's time ones would have already killed some enemies and formed some allies, right?
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Annie
January 8, 2019 at 6:40 PM
You're absolutely right! Also, the secretary was killed by characters in the game (I hope we'll find out how it was possible). Doesn't that mean that other people playing the game could be killed, too, so it's dangerous for everybody?
8 mianmian
January 7, 2019 at 10:30 PM
I. Love. This. Excited for this new arc! I agree that the last 10 minutes are by far the most interesting. Even though the game is the enemy here, Jin Woo standing like the BOSS he is at the top of the lecture hall dictating his terms is my favorite moment of this episode. This is his world now that Professor Cha is playing in, and he’s going to call the shots.
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9 gemwendz
January 7, 2019 at 10:39 PM
Serves you right Professor Cha!!! Now you will experience what Jin-woo had gone through for the past year. I hope your alliance with Zinu won’t break even if you delete your user ID, and you’ll be haunted as well by NPCs and enemies alike until Jin-woo will resolve whatever glitches there are in the game.
I couldn’t love this episode more!!! I love especially JW and HJ exchanges in the car where JW was teasing HJ about the earrings she’s wearing. I laughed out loud when JW said he would save a lot of money since HJ refused JW’s offer to buy another pair of earrings. The way he delivered his line is just so natural and lovely.
I now understand why I was drawn to Hyun Bin. Aside from the obvious good looks, I like actors who deliver their lines in a soft voice, just like Park Hyungsik.
I’m so excited for the remaining episodes of MoA. The next few days will be a torture while waiting for episode 13. Again, thank you so much dramagods for this wonderful treat!
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bk201
January 8, 2019 at 1:13 AM
“I now understand why I was drawn to Hyun Bin. Aside from the obvious good looks, I like actors who deliver their lines in a soft voice, just like Park Hyungsik.”
Yes! Everyone else is charmed by his dimples, but I love his soft spoken voice 😍
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gemwendz
January 8, 2019 at 1:33 AM
I swear I had that scene on repeat. I just looooove hearing his low chuckle and teasing voice. Hahaha! 😍😍😍
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Alodia26
January 8, 2019 at 1:17 AM
yap, he is a good actor beside his good looking and his DIMPLES
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Goryeo princess
January 8, 2019 at 11:02 AM
OH the dimples............. hahaha. I did watched also two of his movies while waiting for new episodes of MotA. just WOW. TALENT all the way, as a NK spy and as negotiating-kidnapper.
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siesta
January 8, 2019 at 4:49 AM
"and you’ll be haunted as well by NPCs"
i hope zombie!seok haunts him for the rest of his life lol.. he deserved it. i feel he's used HS' weak character for personal gain all his life.
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mmmmm
January 8, 2019 at 10:28 AM
Trust me when I first read your first line, it read like you'll be haunted as well by DIMPLES.
That's what happens when there are a lot of comments before yours..
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gemwendz
January 8, 2019 at 2:31 PM
AHAHAHA! 😂😂😂 Haunted by dimples - I am already in that stage. 😍
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10 YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
January 7, 2019 at 10:48 PM
So he divorced his first wife before knowing that she was having an affair with his friend. What a surprise.
The back and forth editing is getting on my nerves, as are many of the repeated scenes. How many times are they going to show us the professor slapping his son? And when he slapped Jin woo, my first thought was, oh dear, I'm going to have to watch that again many, many times. I wouldn't mind if they repeat his smiling and dimpling scenes, though, one could never tire of those gorgeous dimples nor that breathtaking smile. He smiles, I swoon. And when he flirts, my knees turn to jelly.
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gemwendz
January 7, 2019 at 11:09 PM
Yeah, I agree with you on the repeated scenes where Professor Cha slapped HS. I don’t have problems with flashbacks as long as there is a new angle they want viewers to see in that scenario. But there’s none for that slapping scene which is really getting on my nerves. If they want fillers, can they at least have those where JW was smiling? 😍
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
January 8, 2019 at 12:22 AM
I was very bored, honestly, when they repeated the scenes several times. I was like c'mon, show me some new footage, enough, enough of this scene. Too many repeated scenes makes it feel like they are filling up time with old footage, and I felt kind of cheated.
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kellibean
January 8, 2019 at 9:51 AM
I too, feel that there are too many flashbacks. To make things worse, they are disjointed, and plopped in randomly so they don't make sense. The HS /SJ flashback would have made more sense episodes ago....Like the first couple of eps. Where HS was still alive, and they introduced SJ. That way you could have understood the bad blood. It's the 11th hour, and it makes no sense to throw in those scenes now. What was the big secret? Why did we have to wait 12 episodes for that info? At this point, they could have left it out entirely as HS is dead, and it just doesn't matter.
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RenOIshi
January 7, 2019 at 11:47 PM
I don’t think he knew they were having an affair before he divorced her given his surprise when HS said he was marrying SJ. I wish they had divulged a bit more.
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growingbeautifully
January 8, 2019 at 12:00 AM
@coffeprince4eva RenOishi that surprised me. I wonder what made Jin Woo agree to the divorce if not his wife's betrayal with his best friend!
The flashback had something about HS feeling that JW had stolen his father and so he stole JW's wife. Sounds so childish, but that's the way of the world, ... tit for tat all the way up to between nations! So in this show, do we have another female who's mostly just an object? IE is unfaithful wife, Soo Jin, no more than an object to be bandied about between the guys to justify their bad behaviour?
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January 8, 2019 at 12:39 AM
I actually think that the reveal about the affair was to make us like Jin woo even more, because all this time, we've been led to assume that this rich, arrogant chaebol divorced his first wife and remarried again easily and callously. That was the first impression I got anyway from episode 1. Now, we're suddenly shown his first wife's regret at her indiscretion, and the fact that they've been carrying on an affair months before the divorce happened. All these are to make us think that Our Hero is a wronged man, and make us love him even more, if that's possible. The writer really loves him, that's for sure. What will they reveal next? That he neglected her because he was trying to build a company for her, to secure a good life for her? Let's wait with baited breath. In the meantime, I predict another kissing scene, maybe next week, or more petulant cutesy scenes of Hyun Bin pouting....*jumps up and down at imagined images*
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gemwendz
January 8, 2019 at 1:10 AM
In episode 3 when JW and HS duelled, HS mentioned that he really didn’t steal SJ from him, he rescued her instead from a miserable married life with JW. Also, I think it was SJ who requested the divorce because JW was clearly still in love with SJ even after the divorce. The scene where he was soaked in the rain while confronting SJ “Wasn’t I should be the one crying?” HS and SJ were already married back then.
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January 8, 2019 at 12:25 AM
He didn't know, but they must have been having problems in their marriage. This episode, we are suddenly shown scenes where she seems to be regretting her affair, and still loves him. That was a surprise.
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Kairoskat 💐
January 7, 2019 at 11:50 PM
The frequent and repetitive flashbacks is irritating and messing the flow.
But ditto on HB's dimples. JW smiling is nice to see. Such a gorgeous smile he has. And dimples!
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January 8, 2019 at 12:28 AM
The dimples are dazzling. That mean professor slapped those poor dimples so hard. 😬😬😬😬
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celest1al
January 8, 2019 at 12:02 AM
Why do you assume that JW divorced SJ? I was thinking that she must have asked for the divorce since she was having an affair with CHS for months.
I agree about that slapping scene being repeated too much. Haha. But I do like the flashbacks, even though they overdo it at times. It’s interesting to me because they continue to build upon different memories... and I don’t know, it just goes with the theme of piecing the puzzle together (I think visually I compare it to how they do that thing with each shot they use to recap the episode at the end... the border kind of moves itself and fits to make the picture more accurate... do you guys know what I’m talking about? Lol), and also with the title, Memories of the Alhambra.
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January 8, 2019 at 12:17 AM
Yes, I meant the divorce happened before he found out about the affair, I should have used a different pattern of words. I think that it was her who asked for the divorce and not him, because he must have loved her a lot...but I'm just guessing, because we don't know much about what happened before the divorce. Did he neglect her? Or did the friend deliberately set out to win her affections, and shower her with attention?
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Kairoskat 💐
January 8, 2019 at 1:29 AM
I think the writer forgot what Sujin said to JW after Cha's death. Her words and her actions does not match whatsoever. Its weird.
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dogemama
January 8, 2019 at 7:25 AM
She said Hyunseok always wanted to reconcile, and they weren't always happy with how things were. How does that contradict Sujin having an affair with Hyungseok before the divorce?
bbstl 🧹
January 8, 2019 at 8:37 PM
Both.
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Hmmmz
January 9, 2019 at 4:08 AM
Not to forget the weird timing of inserting a background music like when JW called and asked HJ out for a date when she was in the workshop. It feels weird that the music lasted only for less than 5 seconds and stopped abruptly before transitioning to the other scene. I somehow felt like there's an error with the editing. I rewatched ep 1 and 2 and everything was perfect. Storyline, editing, transitions and all. It seemed like one of those dramas with high-end production. It had a huge potential in the beginning. It could have been the best drama of the year but yet just another drama with loopholes,slow pacing, repititions and tears and then more tears. I hope the remaining 4 episodes could save the entire drama
I'm also not a fan of male-dominated world. If the writer decided to make HJ as someone who only stays besides her man for moral and emotional supports, at least show us some female players in the game. Or maybe a female IT tech?
I have no issue with the romance tho. I understand why they were attracted to each other judging from the traumatic events they've been through together and JW is such a stuborn character. He knows he needs help or even food but he insisted that he was fine and okay.no you're not okay! HJ's character, tho could be irritating, has to keep him in check.
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11 neener ~ Inside the Magic Shop ~
January 7, 2019 at 11:03 PM
Emma, dear Emma, don't be just the pretty girl that gives a few health bars. Do something! Maybe save Sec Seo?
This writer always has the best first half and then you forget what happened in the second half 😑
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12 lemoncello
January 7, 2019 at 11:07 PM
It's so heart-breaking to see Jin-woo's this week. And the way Hyun-Bin's conveyed the emotions made it more painful.
And Director Park is right, Jin-woo is really smart!!! So excited to see what will happen next week since Prof. Cha and Hee-jo are joining the game....
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lemoncello
January 7, 2019 at 11:16 PM
PS: And I really hate Sang-beum... He's so busy-body, and pretends as if he's oppa to Hee-ju.
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dieyb
January 7, 2019 at 11:38 PM
just when we bout to forgot 'bout him.. puff! he appear in the house and yelling at grandma and spoil the Se-Joo disappearance and made grandma collapse.
he absolutely really annoying.
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blnmom
January 7, 2019 at 11:46 PM
I was SO MAD at Sangbeum for what he did. Heeju is nice but I would have kicked him out of my life entirely and also maybe kicked him elsewhere.
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January 8, 2019 at 12:45 AM
Rude, annoying and insufferable. He wasn't even sorry that he caused Grandma to collapse. Hey, Jin woo, if you're reading this, make him your ally.
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bbstl 🧹
January 8, 2019 at 8:39 PM
HAHAHA good one. They did a good job of making SB look so dweeby with that terrible haircut, too.
dieyb
January 10, 2019 at 7:36 PM
agree!
i still can tolerate him when he is so busybody with Hee Ju's life.. but, when he really did not feel sorry (or shows that he's sorry) he made Grandma collapsed. He is cancelled.
another woodalchi nicole recruit
January 8, 2019 at 8:56 AM
YESSSS. I cannot stand him. He doesn't even treat HJ well--he has no room to be complaining about how other people treat her.
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mmmmm
January 8, 2019 at 10:31 AM
The very presence of his character irritates me. HE is actually the person who bullies her by being overly-protective, much to the point of being possessive of her. Who gives him any right of being like that? Hushh
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crazyjason
January 8, 2019 at 2:45 PM
Is it possible that Sang-beum is the real villain, the mastermind behind the disappearance of Se Joo? He has been a friend of the family forever and I'm guessing he knew Se Joo better than his sister. I have to wonder about his purpose in the story.
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dieyb
January 10, 2019 at 7:58 PM
Sang-beum being really mastermind behind Se Joo's disappearance will be too random i think. if yes.. then Show, you really have a lot to explain. hahahaha
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13 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
January 7, 2019 at 11:20 PM
Prof Cha may be a total jerk, but his shocked reaction makes it seem less likely that he could be the evil mastermind behind the game and its glitches.
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cherry 🍒
January 8, 2019 at 4:54 AM
Also the actor playing Prof Cha is amazing. He plays villains most of the time and he’s delivering his sexy performances quite well.
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Stardust
January 8, 2019 at 5:07 AM
Sexy!
Omg 😲 seriously Prof cha.
I respect your opinion
( but I wanna insert his terrified expression at that scene here)
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cherry 🍒
January 8, 2019 at 6:50 AM
OMG, I’m dying!!! Stupid autocorrect!!! I wanted to write “scary” not “sexy” !!! *crawls into a cave of shame”
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
January 8, 2019 at 8:56 AM
BAHAHAHAHAH this is the best thing ever. I cannot stop laughing. <3 <3 <3
dramalava
January 8, 2019 at 6:14 PM
LOL! @cherryinbloom thanks for the laugh! best autocorrect goof lol
bbstl 🧹
January 8, 2019 at 8:41 PM
omg, I thought you had lost your everlovin' mind 🤣
YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
January 9, 2019 at 4:42 AM
Laughed my head offf. I did a doubletake, and then read the posts below. Lolol. Laughed my head off at @stardust's I respect your opinion, too. Thanks, guys, you made my day.
Dorotka
January 8, 2019 at 5:29 AM
I'm sort of disappointed about that 😆 ... I really thought he would be the true Master...
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bbstl 🧹
January 8, 2019 at 8:44 PM
I thought, duuude! You're that scared of a little thunder and clouds? You have NO IDEA what you're in for! And p.s. why are bullies always the biggest wusses?
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Stardust
January 9, 2019 at 8:24 PM
LOL exactly!
It was just thunder and rain, and he was already so freaked out
It just made me rub my hands in glee abt how he will react when his son appears in blood. His reaction did not disappoint. Ha!
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bbstl 🧹
January 9, 2019 at 9:35 PM
MUAHAHAHA 😈 it was so gratifying! The old fart.
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14 CandiceRaine
January 7, 2019 at 11:42 PM
Love the recap Lollypip, insightful as always :)
I have a question... what happened to "A"??
Also, this is something I've read from a diff forum, but do you guys think there is a possibility that Soo Jin is now with Director Park?
Argh. So many possibilities. So little time and episodes.
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15 growingbeautifully
January 7, 2019 at 11:49 PM
Thanks @lollypip.
The thoughts that came to mind:
- At least grandma has the right reaction to Se Ju's disappearance.
- Min Ju sure trusts Ajusshi a lot. It's fortunate he's not a real wolf as he called himself in Ep 1 or 2. Fortunately HJ didn't turn out into a hopeless princess that needed saving.
- Will this be the last time we see Sang Beom? I hope so. He's too high handed for a friend.
- Was the server up when NPC Hyung Seok appeared in the guitar workshop?
- Evil though he is, I hope Prof Cha has a strong heart and constitution. The game is like constant persecution, and will wear any player down. It really is a game that should never be released. It tears down physical, mental and emotional health.
- How nice if the game were about wholesome quests and not about killing all the time. But whatever the game, it should not require players being out and about in public being a nuisance and a danger to others and to themselves.
- Jin Woo was way too cool in getting Prof Cha into the game. He said he had prepared what he needed, and we should have guessed that it was all going to be in the AR world. :-)
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mmmmm
January 8, 2019 at 10:36 AM
Yes. I feel like he was confident that he knew Prof.Cha well, and that was why he knew how to get Prof.Cha into the game. He's clever, but that's not what I respect him the most. I think he's very composed in the face of ultimate danger. Trying to get Prof.Cha into the game and persuading him to be his ally was probably his last card. I just can't imagine what'll happen if he failed.
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growingbeautifully
January 8, 2019 at 4:48 PM
@mmmmm JW has the ultimate poker face. When the stakes are the highest and losing means destruction, his unflappable way of still being able to think and act coolly is to be applauded. 😍 This is something I can learn from him when all hell breaks loose! 😅
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16 Kairoskat 💐
January 7, 2019 at 11:51 PM
Real question: does emma come together with that chair? Like a set.
🤔🤣
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
January 7, 2019 at 11:59 PM
And will Emma & Hee-joo fight over who gets Jin-woo? Maybe have a guitar duel?
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growingbeautifully
January 8, 2019 at 12:02 AM
LOL! Guitar duel instead of a guitar duet! The one who's fingers stumble on the tremolo first loses! Or if a guitar string breaks :-D.
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YY Chats with Toast Between Bites
January 8, 2019 at 12:48 AM
Winner gets to keep the shawl. 😁😁
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Kairoskat 💐
January 8, 2019 at 1:14 AM
Winner gets that chair too. Haha 😆
growingbeautifully
January 8, 2019 at 1:33 AM
I want the guitar!!!
Trina
January 8, 2019 at 4:41 PM
This is best comment ever!!!
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17 Withyakyu
January 8, 2019 at 12:03 AM
If the romance means I get to see Jinwoo's smile and dimples more I don't mind a bit. All my question bubbles on the loveline burst into the air... bless those dimples
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lemoncello
January 8, 2019 at 12:26 AM
what will be immortal with Hyun-Bin even though he's getting old: DIMPLES, LoL.
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January 8, 2019 at 12:50 AM
Long after I have forgotten this show, I will remember those dimples.
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Stardust
January 8, 2019 at 3:52 AM
Hear hear
He’s selling the romance well.
Those dimples!!!
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atlex67
January 8, 2019 at 7:33 AM
I'm drowning in those dimples...every.freaking.episode!
Oh and as much as people have been hating on PSH, I think for me this is the first time I've seen her do a kissing role that didn't look like she was in pain or looking like a scared rabbit. So yay!
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18 Lumiere
January 8, 2019 at 12:24 AM
I would send Pricky Sang-beom Oppa higgledy-piggledy right into the game as Zinu's next ally right after Professor Cha. That guy needs a good spanking, well and true.
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bbstl 🧹
January 8, 2019 at 8:49 PM
I was thinking, he's the one I'd assign some slaps to.
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19 Nonso
January 8, 2019 at 12:28 AM
Morning beanies. There's this song in encounter which sounds like the song from dream high sung by those Japanese group. Can you help me with the name of the song??
Thanks
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20 Kurama
January 8, 2019 at 12:31 AM
I'm not sure to understand Su-Jin. She cheated on Jin Woo, I can imagine that he was not necessarily very attentive. But Hyung Seok clearly showed that he was dating her because he had an inferioty complex with Jin Woo and his father. Why did she marry him? I understand she was not in a good situation after Jin Woo knew the truth but she could just leave. Their marriage was wrong for the both of them.
Why Hee Joo is so nice with Sang-bum. He always exceeds the limits.
I missed the scene of Jin Woo waking up Min Joo. I love so much their interactions :D It would have been so funny.
I'm happy to see Jin Woo fight in the real life too!
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Alodia26
January 8, 2019 at 1:10 AM
Maybe because HJ is someone that very tolerate with "bad" attitude. I think her character is consistent even to Sang-Bum or Jin Woo or her brother.
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dogemama
January 8, 2019 at 7:30 AM
Because she couldn't go back to Jinwoo, as Hyungseok said. Clearly for her, being with someone was better than being alone. People get married for much lesser reasons, see: Jinwoo and Yura.
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mmmmm
January 8, 2019 at 10:47 AM
Soo Jin is actually the character I don't understand the most in this show. I can imagine that JW might not be very attentive to her, but I can surely see how much he loved her. Standing in the rain looking completely heart-broken, or totally shocked when HS told him he was getting married with SJ.
I understand that she is a pediatrician. But I can't understand why she seems anxious all the time. Whenever she is faced with people or situations she feels uncomfortable of, she shivers. Does she have anxiety disorder? Why does she always be like that?
I kinda remember that when HS died, Prof.Cha said something like 'That woman is going to be super happy.' Now my understanding is that he meant SJ. And that's why he tried to kick SJ out of the family and get her part of his son's inheritance back.
It's quite interesting to think about her behaviours. She left JW, who clearly loved her, and had an affair with his closest friend. What was she thinking? JW must have sensed that his wife was cheating and that was why they broke up. Does she have Martyr Complex?
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Hun94
January 9, 2019 at 12:22 PM
leaving JW for his friend is sach a downgrade what a shame
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21 Alodia26
January 8, 2019 at 1:07 AM
"I’m really “feeling” the romance any more than dramallama is, but intellectually I can understand why Jin-woo is drawn to Hee-joo and her to him. Jin-woo liked her a year ago for her spirit in the face of opposition (not to mention she’s super pretty), and now he’s in a place where absolutely everyone he cares about is either dead — probably at his own hand — or thinks he’s lost his mind. Hee-joo is the one person who treats Jin-woo normally, not like he’s a pitiful cripple or a dangerous madman, and there’s a lot of comfort and security to be found in that belief. And Hee-joo sees a man who needs to be loved, who needs someone on his side, and there’s just enough of a connection between him and her old life (and her brother) to spark that interest in her. Sometimes love isn’t about grand romance — sometimes it’s just about finding someone who’ll be by your side when you need them, and that’s all."
wow... I always think the same things. but you can explain it very well. bravo. I'm really like the romance here because it make sense. We can falling in love because we feel comfort with someone, especially when nobody can understand our pain.
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22 Stardust
January 8, 2019 at 1:07 AM
I’m evil but I laughed out loud at Prof Cha super terrified expression when the game went real for him.
Man did he fall to the pits faster than Jin woo
Even Jin woo for the depths he had sunk, had a better reaction when HS first appeared!!!
This was the best part of the episode for me!! lol
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Alodia26
January 8, 2019 at 1:11 AM
thats right. I agree with that. Jin Woo is a decent man after all Prof Cha has done to him.
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dogemama
January 8, 2019 at 7:32 AM
I wanted to feel bad bc he is seeing his dead son, but I burst out laughing as well. Sorry, not sorry.
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23 hallyumint
January 8, 2019 at 1:32 AM
Prof Cha...
When i think about his "You're a whore " comment to So-jin
All the worlds most derogatory ..filthy curses pop into my head, which i will refrain from polluting this clean forum with !
Suffice it to say It was damn Satisfying to see that low life mysoginistic rat Quaking in his boots
He was begging for it ! He deserves everything coming his way!
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gemwendz
January 8, 2019 at 1:37 AM
Yeah. His choice of words is so offensive I have a lot of expletives popping in my head hurled directly towards him.
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Stardust
January 8, 2019 at 1:42 AM
I think the actress portraying so-jin
She was trembling and I totally feel her.
I like it that she’s smart enough to know he’s a snake and is taking both her and Jin woo out. Even warning Jin woo.
This is a girl who needs no rescue from a knight.
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dil
January 8, 2019 at 3:54 AM
I’ve been saying this from the beginning.The script writer, Song Jae Jung, is a woman herself, however the way she wrote every single one of the female characters bothers me. There is not even one female character (with a significant role and screen time) that is a game developer, engineer, marketing manager or is otherwise in a position where academic expertise and experience would matter. Let me dissect this more specifically: 1) We have seen Jinwoo’s ex-wife no.1, who dumped Jinwoo for an unspecified reason (probably because he was a self-centered ass who didn’t take care of his wife) just to get together with Jinwoo’s (ex-)best friend and become pregnant to him. Then we see her crying throughout and willingly subjecting herself to the hate and insults of her father-in-law, who considers her a slut (this can be seen in the episode where he convinces her to give up on autopsy). All for the sake of establishing deep animosity between Jinwoo and Cha Hyun Suk, as if Professor Cha favoring Jinwoo wasn’t enough of a reason.
2) We see Jinwoo’s ex-wife no. 2, whose existence serves no valid purpose other than establishing the fact that Jinwoo’s character is a sexually experienced rich business man, who can have any attractive woman he wants. She acts like a bitchy diva, a stereotypical ’difficult to work with’ actress who sleeps around with her manager and uses Jinwoo only for publicity. She is a leech, attention whore gold digger as one would say. There’s no positive attribute to her, which only confirms that this one dimensional character was created only to establish certain characteristics of Jinwoo.
3) Finally I get to dissect Hee Joo. Hee Joo is characterized as emotional and artistic and she has a strong sense of empathy. She’s willing to see good in people, she’s nurturing and feels strongly for others. There’s nothing inherently wrong about these traits. In fact I admire people with aforementioned traits. The problem is, however, that we see her crying in e v e r y s i n g l e episode. For the most ridiculous reasons. The only time her crying was actually justified was when she finally confronted Jinwoo about her brother Se Joo and learned that Se Joo has been missing for one year. The moment she cried on the counter when Jinwoo yelled at her, was very out of place. The time she cried when Jinwoo left Granada as planned, and she ran after him when the train was leaving, was absolutely baffling. Why should she cry for a stranger who had been behaving like a total lunatic the time he spent in Granada, who was rude to her and whom she knew only for a week? Also, she seemed to be alarmingly unconcerned about her underage little brother who hadn’t arrived to Granada the day he promised and hadn’t been answering his phone. If I were his sister, I would have contacted the police eons ago. Instead, she was busy worrying about a lunatic. We learn later on episode 8 that the reason why the script writer made her cry so much was to develop Jinwoo,...
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Hmmmz
January 9, 2019 at 4:27 AM
Exactly! I have issue with how the female characters are being portrayed in this drama too. I feel like the world in this drama is dominated mainly by males. I can't stand the tears too and yes i felt the same and HJ cried in the first ep when JW shouted at her. Ugh
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tunultokki
August 1, 2020 at 5:56 PM
This, this! 1000x this!
All the women in this drama accept abusive and controlling men as if they have no other option, as if it's simply their lot in life and their only choice is the type or degree of abuse.
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dogemama
January 8, 2019 at 7:38 AM
That made me see red. Made me hate him more than all of the shit he's pulled pitting Jinwoo and Hyungseok against each other.
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24 Lucy🦋 | Hyun Bins First Love
January 8, 2019 at 1:39 AM
I always assumed Hyung-seok was the one wronged. Getting kicked out by his own father, fall in love with his best friends ex wife etc. etc.
But this episode proved me wrong. I think he knew what was coming but he didn't expect his father to be the one to do oust him from his own company. And I hated that in his betrayal he betrayed his best friend. And I think he got attracted to Soo Jin may be just cause she was Jin Woo's ex. Bcoz like in this episode, how in his temper he comes and proposes to her looked like he was out for revenge. Soo Jin was already regretting everything and like she said was confused and having second thoughts and Hyung-seok knowing this just jumped the gun to Jin Woo before she could leave him too. Which was pathetic. No matter what, it wasn't fair. Not fair to Jin Woo. And since I didn't like neither character Hyung-seok and Soo Jin... I think they both deserved what they sow.
I love how Jin Woo, no matter how deep he fall and hit rock bottom and still falling, he doesn't back down and just keep fighting for his life and for others. There was number of instances where I thought he would just give up and be miserable but he always fought back. There was no noble idiocy or self pity. Which was true inspiration.
4 more eps and am super excited for this week!! 🦋
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 8:14 AM
I think Hyung-Seok grew up in a way that wasn't the best, and he was probably wronged many times over. It shaped who he is in the future, though it doesn't justify the things he's done, just hint at why he did it.
I'm sure he was jealous of Jin-Woo, and how his dad favoured him. I do think he genuinely cared for Soo-Jin, but I think he got so fired up that he ended up using her as ammunition and cheapening his own relationship. He knew it, too, which is why he was so insecure and spiralling.
I see him as a tragic figure, but also someone who cut off his nose to spite his own face. He let his insecurities and bitterness ruin his friendship, his future prospects and his relationship. I feel sad for him, even as I don't approve of anything he did. He should have risen up against his dad's influence, but he gave in to self-destruction. That's the big difference between him and Jin-Woo.
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
January 8, 2019 at 9:00 AM
Yes. I think HS is the tragic figure in all this, for sure. For all the flaws in the writing related to OTHER THINGS (hello women characters), the writer did a great job making HS initially sympathetic and then gradually revealing him to be less and less so. I'm really intrigued with the arc of revelations we get concerning him, and I definitely see him as a tragic figure for now.
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 9:08 AM
It occurred to me just now that while Jin-Woo is able to rise up and keep fighting, Hyung-Seok gives in to self-destruction and as a result becomes lesser versions of himself...resulting in his last, most lesser version: an NPC without dialogue or story/quest, entirely dedicated to and governed by being Jin-Woo's enemy.
I see that as really, really sad :(
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
January 8, 2019 at 9:12 AM
omg yes! that's such a great insight. Hs's is a truly tragic decline and end. So very sad. (Ironically, then, he becomes more sympathetic in such a pitiable state.)
mmmmm
January 8, 2019 at 10:52 AM
Good comparison. I actually giggled when you compared the most tragic point of his life with his NPC character. I do, too, agree that in my eyes he is the most tragic character in this show. I actually felt for him more than I felt for Secretary Seo.
tunultokki
August 1, 2020 at 6:03 PM
I agree. But I also think that HS might have matured some between the day his dad disowns him and his final duel with JW, when he has some insightful things to say - and we see him earlier treating Sj with some sympathy and concern. It makes sense now why SJ would have been reading mixed signals from him and freaking out, but it's also possible that HS has become more sensitive to her feelings as their marriage has progressed. In other words, we are not necessarily misled by thinking better of him at the beginning of the drama than now, with more backstory.
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Smht25
January 8, 2019 at 7:16 PM
"love how Jin Woo, no matter how deep he fall and hit rock bottom and still falling, he doesn't back down and just keep fighting for his life and for others.".......... THIS. THIS trait of Jin woo makes him so hot! The swoonworthy smile and dimples are just added charm to me...but that never say die attitude is making me sweat whenever i see him!
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25 hallyumint
January 8, 2019 at 1:47 AM
At least one thing this episode confirmed for me. Prof Cha is indeed "Iago ". He was instrumental in driving his son away from the company and breaking his friendship with Jin-woo
for his Greed ??? Control of the company ???
Happily he's out of running for Contender of Game' Mastermind !
That leaves Marco. For now im going with " The Game absorbed Marco personality after killing him and Sejoo ( very much alive) is the White Knight locked in his tower. Helping Jin- woo from the background "
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 8:08 AM
Pride and money. I think those are the things that Papa Cha cares about the most, and the things he bases every action on. I don't think he's out of the running yet, tbh, but I could be wrong and getting twisted by his skeevy vibes.
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
January 8, 2019 at 9:01 AM
I was wondering about Papa Cha's motivation, too. Is pride and money enough? Doesn't it seem like something happened long before the show starts, something to make him dislike HS so much? Just betraying the company doesn't seem like it'd be enough (Am I missing something? Totally might be.)
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 9:19 AM
I'm not even sure in what context Hyung-Seok betrayed the company, I always assumed he tried to have more sway in the direction of the company and Papa Cha didn't like it. Maybe I missed it, I've been a little dopey over the holiday season lol.
I get the impression from the little we've seen that Papa Cha is very changeable towards people, depending on how much they impact his pride and his paycheck. He could be feeling wronged by Jin-Woo not out of betrayal because of love, but betrayal because Jin-Woo's behaviour and public actions have dented his pride.
Sadly, even the most everyday people can be like that. My sister-in-law cut ties with many people in her own family over things like forgetting to send her a birthday card or not paying back £20 that they owed her. It's scary, the things people can throw others away for.
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
January 8, 2019 at 9:29 AM
that's fair. could very well be. it also makes sense, given the way Papa Cha is treating Soo-jin now, too. (Wasn't something said about trying to get the inheritance back?)
26 Kairoskat 💐
January 8, 2019 at 1:52 AM
Not gonna lie, when Papa Cha called zombie Cha's name..it was sad. He looked genuinely shocked seeing his son in that state.
But won't Papa Cha be even more determined to find his son's cause of death, though? His son is seen bleeding and holding a sword, won't that trigger Papa Cha to investigate further the reason of his son's death? Huhu
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Kairoskat 💐
January 8, 2019 at 1:55 AM
Or he also might be too scared to do anything and want to flee for his life 😅
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 8:07 AM
Since I'm still suspicious of him, I wouldn't be surprised if he's aware that the game can kill people. But I don't think he expected the dead to show up in the game. His reaction was probably more out of shock at seeing Hyung-Seok than anything to do with the game itself.
And it was a great moment. I got real chills, especially when Hyung-Seok's eyes slowly moved over to Papa Cha.
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Kairoskat 💐
January 8, 2019 at 8:55 AM
Zombie cha's actor Park Hoon is good. I kinda feel bad for him since he has so little to do in this drama. But at least his character is memorable.
I think his lines in ep12 were more than his lines in ep1 to ep11 combined hahahaha
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 8:58 AM
Park Hoon is incredibly good, I'm loving everything about his performance! I only kinda wish we had more glimpses of the happy times between him and Jin-Woo, it would make his story have more impact
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mmmmm
January 8, 2019 at 10:56 AM
I agree that I am not sure about his love towards his own son HS. As he told people, as well as how his behaviour shows, all that he cares is the company J - One. I don't feel like he would be interested in really finding out about his son's death as much as he wanted to use this to have his revenge on JW. His son's death, and the believe that JW killed him, just add oil to the already burning flame.
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 12:27 PM
Exactly. I think Hyung-Seok's death was a nuisance because of the public relations disaster, but now he's using both the public relations and the death to beat Jin-Woo down. I doubt it has anything to do with love or his regrets, just his dented pride and greed.
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27 hallyumint
January 8, 2019 at 2:03 AM
" Sometimes love isn’t about grand romance — sometimes it’s just about finding someone who’ll be by your side when you need them, and that’s all."
Hence the Song Little Prince
" When you're scared & blue
I"ll be by your side "
It was written with Hee-jo's character in mind
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28 shach
January 8, 2019 at 2:53 AM
I got impression, that PSH screentime in this episode was 90% PPL, but I was glad she finally send "oppa" away and give him good talk down and that didn't caught another deathly cold after getting drenched again.
I don't know why so much time was spent of reminding us that JinWoo will be questioned by police, I think we got the first 5 times when HJ asked about it. And we at almost at the finish line, we need more answer not question and what's the point of rewriting SooJin's character into cheating wife now. This constant flashbacks were irritating and unnecessary to the plot. I want more time of people finally investigating what the hell happening with this game than finding out why JinWoo keep failing at relationships.
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dil
January 8, 2019 at 3:56 AM
PSH feels like a damn side character who was courted into this drama for the ratings and the PPL money. All she does is dress up and go to dinners with an alcoholic drug addict when she should be out there trying to play the game, reach the 100th level and find her own goddamn brother
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Boraa
January 8, 2019 at 5:40 AM
Not to be mean but you're one bias and salty fan. I don't think she'll take this role if she doesn't like it. She accepted the role because she want to work with Hyun Bin. It's so annoying to hear all these whining about using Park Shin Hye to bring ratings and attention. REALLY!...If her acting is really out of this world then I won't object all the bias commenters but she is not. Her acting is so unnatural and hard to watch even for a weak character with little screen times. Learn to accept and respect everyone especially all that have participated in this production.
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 8:05 AM
Yeah, I feel like we should be getting more answers by now. I don't mind flashbacks but it seems like they're coming a little too late? I mean we're far enough down the line now that extra characterisation for Soo-Jin or Hyung-Seok doesn't mean much anymore.
Or is it purely to paint Soo-Jin in a certain light to influence how we look at Hee-Joo in comparison? No idea. For me, these last two episodes were frustrating, since Hee-Joo just did a mass load of distracting PPL and bombarded Jin-Woo with reminders and questions. The best thing she did was definitely scolding oppa, but even then he didn't look like he took her seriously or learned anything.
It's a shame, my enjoyment of the show has kept me positive but the pacing of the past two episodes really threw me off and I'm starting to worry that there won't be a satisfying ending.
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CS
January 9, 2019 at 8:36 AM
I don't think that SooJin's character was rewritten to be a cheating wife. I thought all along that she and Cha had an affair and got married after the divorce. The only surprise to me, was that JW didn't know about it until after the divorce was final. She must have seemed very unhappy in the marriage before that point for JW to agree to the divorce without knowing about the affair.
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Stardust
January 9, 2019 at 8:27 PM
My take is jin woo wasn’t really the perfect husband - he was an arrogant self Centre person.
His fear now takes the winds of the sails a lot but I imagine he wasn’t that great in the past
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29 Tutu loves Ateez
January 8, 2019 at 4:04 AM
Wow!
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30 Dorotka
January 8, 2019 at 4:10 AM
I still like their banter more than the kiss... 🙂
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 7:58 AM
Same, though I prefer his banter with her little sister. Those guys are like the new Goblin and Grim Reaper for me.
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Evelyn
January 9, 2019 at 12:02 AM
They are probably the only pairing I like in this drama, rivaling that of JW and Sec Seo. :D
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mmmmm
January 8, 2019 at 10:59 AM
It's quite not right for me to say this, but I feel potential chemistry between him and the lil sis. That's not right, right? hahahaha
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Evelyn
January 9, 2019 at 12:02 AM
I was thinking the same, that it's not right, but the chemistry is really nice! Kudos to the young actress for delivering her part so well whilst facing Hyun Bin!
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31 ohduhree
January 8, 2019 at 4:31 AM
"Sometimes love isn’t about grand romance — sometimes it’s just about finding someone who’ll be by your side when you need them, and that’s all." --such a good take on the romance. I think it will always feel differently based on our own view of romance. Some are not feeling it while some recognize its potential. The drama is clearly not centered on romance so I really appreciate how we only get a taste of it.. Anyways, after JW got out of the dungeon, the pace clearly slowed down.. But this drama doesn't allow us to chill cause danger may come anytime as we've seen in this episode. It's unpredictable. I am excited to see what's in store for Prof. Cha now that he knows JW isn't lying. And I'm happy that we'd get to see HJ involved in the game (and finding seju) now.
Lastly, I hate Sangbum. How does he have the nerve to tell grandma about the whole thing? He's overstepping boundaries. A dedicated friend should have respected his friend's decision. She did it to avoid getting her worried and sick! Ughh. If he really is concerned that she's not making good decisions, he should've talked to her and rationalized THEN allowed her to tell grandma herself. I don't get the guy I swear.
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ohduhree
January 8, 2019 at 4:36 AM
Also, the excessive PPL in this episode matches that of Encounter. Lol. Are the writers having PPL battle? I know it can't be helped but I hope they can be more subtle.
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
January 8, 2019 at 9:03 AM
"She takes her sweet time with her PPL lipstick and earrings," from the recap -- i died laughing when I read that. Seriously yes. Hahahaha.
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bbstl 🧹
January 8, 2019 at 9:02 PM
I laughed soooo loud at the box with the giant SWAROVSKI stamped across the lid 🤦🏻♀️
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 12:31 PM
I saw the article about PPL on here, mentioning how PBG in Encounter had the label of the bottle turned towards the camera. Then Secretary Seo did the exact same thing in the next episode of MOTA and my eyes nearly rolled right out of my head.
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32 Sheyr
January 8, 2019 at 4:42 AM
I’m in this for Hyun Bin- this was an amazing role for him and he has delivered beautifully.
Loved the sense of exhaustion but barely controlled menace that he exuded- warm towards those he loves but ice cold to everyone else.
Loved the way he lashed out at HJ’s annoying friend in the previous episode- like a coiled panther when provoked. You knew he was just swatting that idiot away like the fly he was.
I think his initial hesitation in getting evil Dr Cha logged into the game as his ally was possibly to spare him the pain and heartache of having to see his dead and wounded son as an NPC and also potentially having to kill his own son to survive.
The romance is very lukewarm ( other than the rather sweet flirtatious banter) and PSH’s tears just make me laugh now.
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growingbeautifully
January 8, 2019 at 7:34 AM
I re-watched some of Ep 10 to see if there was evidence of Park's betrayal, but I could not find it. If anything, even while he was alone, he was in torment over both the madness of his friend and the loss of the company and finally over the loss of Jeong Hun. There was no time when he was alone that he was gleeful or looking in control. In fact it was the opposite. He looked much put upon.
So although in theory, he is the only likely candidate left as bad guy (barring a dead Marco or a missing Se Ju or a cameo 'A'), I find it hard to see him in that role.
I'm more inclined to think that the AI has gone rogue after too much self-learning and without a proper control or manual override to its AR creation. It has created its own changing rules and has decided to take down the humans who are playing the game. 😜
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dogemama
January 8, 2019 at 7:50 AM
I agree. If Director Park is revealed to be the evil mastermind who orchestrated this whole thing, I'm going to be really taken aback. There is no evidence in the story so far to support this theory at all.
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
January 8, 2019 at 9:22 AM
+1 on the AI & self-learning.
It learns from a world where you gain levels by killingr. So it learns to kill. Whoops.
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fauna
January 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM
The story so far does seem to be pointing in that direction. If the AI has gone rogue, I hope it starts talking to the humans, maybe in the form of one of the NPCs, like Emma. Her guitar-playing does herald the coming of zombie Cha, after all. She has also made contact with her human counterpart in the real world. It would be interesting to see her in a villain role.
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growingbeautifully
January 9, 2019 at 1:37 AM
@fauna Oh dear... if even the beautiful Emma becomes a villain, on top of all the death and killing, it will be a really sad game world all round!! I'd like Emma to be an ally to all human players.
Something like an oracle, but the player must ask the right kind of questions to get useful answers. Using the head to come up with good questions will be a nice break from merely thinking how best to kill the next NPC!
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fauna
January 9, 2019 at 9:24 PM
If JW had played the game normally, maybe he would have met some more friendly NPCs along the way, besides the pirates and the weapons seller. He might have gotten more answers about the game too. The weapons seller seemed to know that he was being chased by zombie Cha, for example. I’m open to Emma being good or evil, as long as they make her interesting.
33 Sheyr
January 8, 2019 at 4:48 AM
Also, now that Prof Cha is not the main suspect with the game glitch, could CEO Park be the one responsible?
He started the company with the other two- so would be aware of game programming etc.
Working behind the scenes to cause the rift between the two friends first , and now sabotaging JW so he could smoothly step in as sole CEO?
A bit of a stretch but the least suspicious people end up as the most manipulative in Kdramas.
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Lelly19
January 8, 2019 at 6:05 AM
I think it's totally possible; I had the same thought after watching ep 12.
If he ended up being behind the problems with the game I wouldn't be surprised!
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 7:57 AM
He's still a suspect of mine, I think he didn't know the extent of what the game can do to real-life players re: uploading them. He gives me such bad vibes, I can't help but still side-eye him.
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34 growingbeautifully
January 8, 2019 at 6:19 AM
@dieyb16 @katakwasabi @hallyumint
In the last recap we were talking about how crazy the time was in this show and how much time Jin Woo had in the dungeons. Well once again, when I mentioned it, @packmule3 has taken the trouble to figure it out. Here's the link to her blog.
http://bitchesoverdramas.com/2019/01/08/memories-of-the-alhambra-dungeon-time/
What do you think?
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Kairoskat 💐
January 8, 2019 at 8:31 AM
Thanks @packmule3 and thanks @growingbeautifully for sharing the link
Yep. I thought so too. JW found the key before the zombie attack based on his health points and the time left on the game. What i dont understand is:
1. why was the key for users above level 100 only? JW was level 91, he had no use of that key yet (assuming the key is to help unlock SJ that is somewhere in that dungeon, even Master can't use that key since he is level 94.)
2. The original dungeon quest was to rescue Master. But JW left the dungeon on his own accord when those guards found him. It was not because the server was down and the game stopped. He was still fighting NPCs while walking outside.
3. He says he just haven't found SJ. Okay, he hasn't. But where did he plan to find SJ when he left that dungeon? The quest was to go to Alhambra and rescue Master. So JW needs to find master in the dungeon or at least in Alhambra palace. Imo JW walking away from the dungeon and Alhambra Palace was already forfeiting the quest.
4. I have no idea why he walked towards a hospital after going out of the dungeon
5. The hospital and the dungeon was so far away that for sure 30 minutes has already lapsed when he was on his way to the hospital
So...I still find his argument about not completing the quest because of the downed server not justified. Based on what happened he did fail the quest way before the server was down. If he wants to be angry at someone for interrupting his flow, maybe he should be more mad at HJ since she was the one who told the officers to go find him. That was when he got suddenly disconnected from the dungeon. It was not because of the server was down.
This is my opinion. What do you think @growingbeautifully?
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Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
January 8, 2019 at 9:28 AM
I *guess* the dungeon quest (and what would a game be without a dungeon quest?) was only indirectly to save Master -- by finding the key that would be "key" to part 2 of the quest. Then Zinu won the dungeon quest before the guards found him (???) Well, except for the need-to-fight-your-way-out part, but I guess escaping alive by any means counts for that even if you need help from guards and server shutdowns (??)
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growingbeautifully
January 8, 2019 at 5:10 PM
@lordcobol I thought that finding the key should have marked the end of the quest. It was so overly taxing (and I felt unfair) of the game, that after having killed zombies going in, more (or the same) zombies still have to be negotiated on the way out!!!
I was thinking that maybe at the entrance of the dungeon, there would be something that the key would open to give him the next quest. But... he needs to be Level 100 or more to be allowed to use that key!!!
So having the game suspended was a good thing! Without knowing it, HJ not only saved his virtual (and/or real) life, but gave him an opportunity to level up so that he can use Master's Key. 😉
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growingbeautifully
January 8, 2019 at 5:04 PM
Hmmm @katakwasabi, I did not see it that way.
The AI (in th lenses?) is so fantastic that it can tell immediately when there's a real life obstacle. In this case it was the external lights and persons coming towards JW. When there's an obstacle, the game automatically is suspended, meaning that it can be resumed later to be continued.
Can you remember if this was the same when Hee Ju blocked NPC HS from attacking JW? Was the game suspended or did it time out? Is timing out the same as losing the chance to complete the 'session' and therefore that it's considered JW lost the battle? I think it did not. He was not told that he lost points or lost that battle.
So I'm guessing (hopefully this is the same as what JW thinks, ie), that he has to log back into the game, probably back in Granada and in that dungeon, to resume the quest. If he now logs in from anywhere else, he is not in that quest but other battles may be offered him. So in actual fact, I think that he can level up to reach Level 100 before he returns to Alhambra dungeon.
However (not sure if this is a plothole?) ... the game said that JW could go into the dungeon only once, ie he had only one chance to complete the quest. But maybe a suspension and resumption of the same quest is allowed, because outside forces becoming obstacles are not within (or are not supposed to be within) the player's control?
Please add your conjectures. 😋
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dieyb
January 10, 2019 at 10:37 PM
ah. now i remembers bout the quest is suspended when outside light/obstacle is detected.
no wonder he can still be in the game and go to hospital after got out from the dungeon.
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bbstl 🧹
January 8, 2019 at 9:08 PM
The hospital was the next logical place for him to go once he was kicked out of the quest because he had to identify Secretary Seo's body.
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Kairoskat 💐
January 9, 2019 at 3:02 AM
But he didnt even know Seo was really2 dead at that time as in he was not informed by anyone yet. The police officer at the hospital did say he called JW or JW called him or something, so maybe it occured off-screen since i dont recall anyone calling JW to tell him that Seo is actually dead and at that morgue~ hoho. Though I might be wrong, i didn't rewatch the episode 😅.
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bbstl 🧹
January 9, 2019 at 8:06 AM
He got the confirmation in the game that he had lost his ally, was unable to reach Secretary Seo and then saw glitchy NPC Seo in the quest, so going to the hospital to confirm that there's a body irl would follow. Also, he had to know at some level that he himself needed fluids (was it health level 10%?) but that seems like the last thing he'd pay attention to.
growingbeautifully
January 8, 2019 at 11:26 PM
@katakwasabi You'll be interested to know that @packmule3 has taken your questions and given her reply in her blog.
http://bitchesoverdramas.com/2019/01/08/memories-of-the-alhambra-game-recap/#comments
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Kairoskat 💐
January 9, 2019 at 2:57 AM
Thank you for informing~ interesting read with lots of evidences. It does make me see things differently for a bit but i'm still on the fence about it overall . Nevertheless, great observation from @packmule3 😊.
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dieyb
January 10, 2019 at 7:33 PM
@growingbeautifully thank you with all the links. @packmule3 insight definitely helping in understanding more about the messy timeline. hahahaa
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35 lotus
January 8, 2019 at 7:14 AM
I think the writer is NOT tech/savvy or at least doesn’t understand how high tech development works. If Zinu is the only account/player that’s having issues, why didn’t anyone think about disabling or deleting the Zinu account and re-create a new one for Jin Woo? It was Zinu who killed and keeps seeing Hyung Seok’s NPC. No one else can see it unless they form alliances with Zinu. So Zinu’s account is the problem. Why didn’t any of these geniuses with doctoral degrees in engineering ever thought about this? How could a CEO of a billion dollar investment not check this? If he can’t sever the alliance with the secretary, delete both accounts and re-create new ones to continue looking for Se Joo while avoiding to get hurt or killed. And surprised Professor Cha never even looked at the game himself since this game could bankrupt his company. The writer is good at creating a concept and story but the execution is so flawed that it shows that not enough attention was given to the details.
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 7:51 AM
I agree, I'm shocked no one is looking into this. I'm also wondering why no one seems to receive footage from the Zinu account any more (it would have proven the Hyung-Seok thing long ago), and why people can't track it (they had no idea who was shooting the enemies the beta testers were fighting).
And yet the tech guy could still access the Zinu account enough to give it a private game space to level up, could send it special items etc. It doesn't make sense. Either you can interact with the account and have access to its information, or you can't. Which is it?
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dogemama
January 8, 2019 at 8:28 AM
Since Hyungseok is a bug, and not any small bug, but one that could potentially be the manifestation of an AI gone rouge, he could very well be masked to regular users, and only be seen by Jinwoo. His account is tied to the game, so being able to interact with Zinu's account does not necessarily mean they're able to access and replicate the user experience, which is supported by the lens. If Jinwoo is able to see Hyungseok without the lens, the footage wouldn't show him anyway.
I agree that the writing of the game itself needed to be more sophisticated and consistent, but I wouldn't go so far as to say the writing reflects little understanding of high tech. It's leaving some details out, which is annoying, but it's not impossible to make reasonable assumptions to make sense of these gaps.
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 9:03 AM
You're right, that would also explain why Jin-Woo never bumped into Marco (who I thought would attack him when he first returned to Granada with Seo).
But it leads me back to the point about tech: if the lenses have nothing to do with this, why can Jin-Woo access the game without them and why haven't we seen more investigation into this? In his position, the first thing I'd do would be to have brain scans and blood tests to check for nano tech.
But by episode 12 this hasn't even been mentioned. I find it frustrating, since to me it's one of the most important questions that needs answering. I can agree that footage and tracking might not work so well without the lenses, but that would raise even more questions about how he can get into the game without them in the first place and why that hasn't been discussed at length by this stage in the show.
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dogemama
January 8, 2019 at 9:15 AM
Valid point. I wish we'd seen some speak of nano technology already, it would've been so cool to have that integrated into the story.
Lotus
January 17, 2019 at 11:29 AM
There is Hyunseok the real account and there is Hyunseok the NPC account. The real one should show a log in time right at his death and should no longer be active. The NPC one is secretly created as a bug and only Zinu and his alliances can interact with that NPC. So it goes back to the same issue, they should have tested deactivating/deleting Zinu account. If they don’t test this, how can they bring the game to the market. As the saying goes, the devil is in the details. And it’s in these details that show the writer’s lack of good understanding of tech.
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Kairoskat 💐
January 8, 2019 at 8:38 AM
Agreed. They should have tried deleting tge account first.
The weird part is the developers can track Zinu, they know his level but have no idea who he is and just leaves it be. Same goes with marco and master, they knew their last login was 1 yr ago. The developers should have wiped clean the previous user data before proceeding with testing.
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Messy
January 8, 2019 at 7:13 PM
I suppose the creator of this game would have all the answers to all your questions here...and this is why Jin-woo is looking for him too. Lol ...
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dogemama
January 8, 2019 at 7:53 AM
It could be as simple as his account could not be deleted, the same way City Hunter's alliance with Zinu could not be severed. But yeah, wish they'd mentioned this so we could rule out the obvious options in canon, rather than make assumptions.
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Lotus
January 17, 2019 at 11:17 AM
If Zinu account cannot be deactivated, that itself is a serious flaw of the system and makes this game not eligible to be brought to mass market. This is very basic system development concept: the system administrator must have full control of EVERY user account. If one cannot be deactivated, (no matter how his account is related to other accounts), the system fails a basic test. The alliance is a rule in the game and is completely different than account deactivation. In real world system development, if one account is deactivated, the relationship between accounts would no longer continue. That’s why I said the writer is not tech savvy. This game is so seriously flawed I am surprised J One is bringing it to market.
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36 AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 7:49 AM
I'm still suspicious of Cha, big time. But I think he genuinely didn't know or understand the side effects of this game. The problem with intelligent AI is that it, like humans, will work to protect itself and do what it sees as the most logical thing to do. For humans who wanted to control its every step, this would be an AI gone rogue.
I wonder if Hee-Joo is wearing lenses or if the hologram of Emma is just being projected into the office? Thank god she's not in her R-rated outfit, eh?
I understand that Jin-Woo wanted to protect Professor Cha on some level, but he waited for longer for this than I would have. Cha has been an active part of Jin-Woo's public humiliation, ousting and everything that goes with it. I get that Jin-Woo's story seems nuts - I would be side-eyeing him too, but I would be open to receiving evidence and would have requested it long before now.
I'm glad he'll see, now, though I wonder if it will help Jin-Woo in the end. I'm still suspicious of this old guy.
Ahhh, Hyung-Seok. So self-destructive and bitter. What an unhappy man. I still think he genuinely had feelings for his wife, but his issues with his father and Jin-Woo turned it from being a heartfelt relationship to being used as ammunition. His neuroses and his vices prevented him from even enjoying the relationship he wanted.
I was legit worried that Yu-Ra was going to say she'd had at least one kid with Hyung-Seok during his drunken venting episodes. Please no.
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Alessar
January 8, 2019 at 10:27 AM
... or if the unreality of the game just became real for her like it did for the people who were killed in duels.
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 12:33 PM
I really hope it's not that, that would be terrifying, because she doesn't have a game account and has never used the lenses as far as I know
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Alessar
January 9, 2019 at 6:27 AM
After the way in W that the comic universe started to infringe on normal reality, I wouldn't be surprised if that's exactly what's happening here.
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37 owl 🦉 🫰
January 8, 2019 at 8:57 AM
Yang-joo and Mr Park seem to be working behind the scenes for Jin Woo in defiance of Prof. Cha. Yang-joo's obsession with Emma, well, he has made her appear (at Jin-woo's request no doubt). And Hee -joo did call Yang-joo about the lenses, so he knows she will see Emma. But the Emma/Hee-joo likeness - are they different or the same?
About the two wives, Yu-ra and Soo-jin - we hardly know anything about each of their relationships with Jin-woo. It seems unnecessarily complicated and frankly, not very interesting. I am not drawn into their parts of the story at all.
About Prof. Cha - he is angry and unlovable - but really, does he have to be so nasty and controlling to the point of destroying everyone who he feels has betrayed him? I hate either/or situations (as in cutting off his son and replacing him with another "son"). Prof Cha is a small thinker with too much power.
I started watching this because of the game aspect and the compelling blending of the reality/virtual worlds. But I realize I only like the virtual world storyline and not the real world storyline. So I am kind of frustrated, but I sticking with it because i want to see how they find Master ~
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mmmmm
January 8, 2019 at 11:06 AM
I know. You really have to make your head 'blank' in my scenes in order to continue to enjoy the story. However, I just want to make a small comment here. I don't quite buy it when Prof.Cha said anything about him being betrayed. The word just makes him look good while making the other person the wrongdoer. He has never been betrayed by anyone, it was just that they couldn't/didn't live up to his expectations. And that the company is the only thing he concerns about.
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wapz
January 8, 2019 at 11:15 AM
That's exactly how he wants the world to see him. Betrayed and by calling others traitors. That's exactly what happened to his son too, so that's when JW realized that it wasn't his fault either. It was Prof Cha making them feel that they are wrong.
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owl 🦉 🫰
January 8, 2019 at 12:12 PM
I agree, that's what I mean when I say he feels they have betrayed him, but that is just his way of getting rid of whoever he wants and keeping power.
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wapz
January 8, 2019 at 11:17 AM
I remember so many people had issue with JW calling SJ's tears fake but maybe turns out that they might be fake and he did have an idea on how she has lived with him. But still regarding the wives and backstory, they still haven't revealed enough to make us care.
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Messy
January 8, 2019 at 8:12 PM
I am beginning to see that both the reality and the virtual worlds are intertwined in such a manner that the true character or personality of a player is exposed once he or she logged in to the game. It’s not just a game per se but an application into reading a person’s true self. The creator of this game is a genius using it to read people. Hyung-seok is revealed as a bitter man bend on killing Jin-woo. Pro Cha is revealed to be a real obnoxious coward hiding behind that false facade of composure. And Emma is a healer as someone here mentioned before. So in reality, Hee-joo is balm to Jin-woo’s tortured soul, taking care of him when he was injured and giving him confidence when he felt defeated. And Seo was truly a loyal friend, died protecting his boss. And as for Jin-woo..lol, gosh, this is all too cliche but I love him just the same....he is what he is in real life, a loyal, self suffering, determined and very brave man. This game acts like a mirror that reveals the inner core of the player.
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38 another woodalchi nicole recruit
January 8, 2019 at 9:04 AM
You guys have all said everything I felt (and said it so well) in your comments, so I'll just say my final feeling when finishing this episode was sheer delight that AT LAST HJ WOULD BE IN THE GAME. That is what I came for. PLAY BALL.
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39 dogemama
January 8, 2019 at 9:16 AM
I'm curious what point in time Jinwoo is narrating from. His "we're approaching the end of this story" felt ominous, and I'm starting to wonder if our hero is not going to make out of this alive.
Hyungseok's existence, both in reality and the game, just makes me really sad. I don't think he had much agency when he was alive, and now in death, he's literally an NPC programmed to act a certain way only. In a different show, I would love to see Hyungseok explored further as a character; he was bitter, hurt, and lashing out at the two people who genuinely cared about him. Think of the potential of a fully realized bromance between Jinwoo and Hyungseok!
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 9:22 AM
I'm 100% with you on Hyung-Seok, he's probably my favourite character in this even though we see and know so little about him and his past.
I think he's sad and tragic. He made terrible decisions and let his insecurities and bitterness run away with him. He seems like someone who was never entirely in control of what they became, which makes his NPC form that much more terrible.
Huge kudos to Park Hoon, for both his performance and for looking great in a blood-covered suit.
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40 Alessar
January 8, 2019 at 10:26 AM
He really should have gotten Prof. Cha a couple character levels before introducing him to the digital ghost of his dead son. That way he could let the ghost stab him to demonstrate the way the virtual injury seems real to those affected by this reality glitch without it actually killing him. Since the ghost is level 3 and Cha is level 1, he would probably be one-shotted and die for real if he tried that. I thought they should get Cha, his bro who just took over as CEO, and someone from the police or prosecutor's office to all join up and ally and see this unreal phenomenon for themselves.... and then he'd have a party of 4 for the quest.
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AlexDanno
January 8, 2019 at 12:38 PM
I see this as Jin-Woo being a little vindictive. There's a twist of revenge going on. He's been very publicly judged, ousted and treated like a crazy person. Cha turned his back on him and helped to push him out of his own company.
I don't think he'll let Cha get hurt, and I don't think he wanted it to go this far because he knows it's cruel, but I think he wants him to experience a little of the fear and horror he's had to go through. And I think he wants him to understand the pain of what the Hyung-Seok NPC means. Doing it the way he has, Cha has to rely on his support and that seems like part of Jin-Woo's plan. He's sort of holding Cha hostage to force him to go along with Jin-Woo's plans and investigations.
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Alessar
January 9, 2019 at 6:26 AM
Oh definitely. I just want the asshole to get STABBED and live through it. After all if he survives the injury will go away a second later after Jin-Woo kills the digital ghost. But then the prof will understand exactly why the weird things that happened to his son and the secretary did so.
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41 purplerain☔
January 8, 2019 at 11:16 AM
I've been waiting forever for the last 10mins of this episode to happen . finally!!
professor Cha is gonna get whats coming yea.
can't get enough of hyun bin's dimples 😊
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Messy
January 8, 2019 at 6:41 PM
Mr. Dimples 😍 he’s why I am watching this drama. Never knew much about Park Shin-hye before this but now I am beginning to like her. I like her role as Hee-joo loving Jin-woo and giving him all the emotional support that he needs and trusting him when everybody else had practically gave up on him. I want..or rather I demand that the story writer to give both of them a happy ending in wedded bliss...😂
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42 sph_7
January 8, 2019 at 4:28 PM
I’m really convinced that HJ was written in after the fact for PPL. Most of this episode was boring to me. Thank goodness there was some progress towards the end. Binding professor Cha as an ally is ingenious! Now let’s hope the next episode stays interesting. I’m not even gonna bet a penny on HJ having some pivotal role in the game. Remember how the programmer was able to take Emma out of the game for cosmetic development. I think that was all HJ saw, not the live server NPC. They’re not tricking me with this cliffhanger.
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43 spazmo
January 8, 2019 at 4:37 PM
the flagrant PPLs were insulting to have to endure...
no offense to Park Shin Hye, but the writer is making her talk about the items as if it would "help" the placement... but it just pisses me off.
merely putting on a certain brand of lipstick in a certain color as Song Hye Kyo or Jun Ji Hyun could do (without dialog about it) apparently isn't enough to sell the item for PSH...
the whole date scene was set up just for makeup and jewelry PPL. waste of our time! get on with the story!
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44 Trina
January 8, 2019 at 4:54 PM
I think next episode will be a flashback of the last ten minutes of this episdes. Therefore, I am looking forward to next episode.
In another note: I wish we have Sky Castle recap because episode 14 of the ending was OMG Cliffhanger!!!!
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45 Annie
January 8, 2019 at 6:56 PM
So I'm having a hard time deciding who should get the Best Couple Award. Jin Woo and secretary Seo, for their bromance? Or Jin Woo and his little "sister-in-law"? When Min Joo remained home alone, I was screaming at the screen: Jin Woo, don't let her alone, go keep her company! and he did, and even prepared breakfast. I also love the child actress a lot for holding her own while acting with Hyun Bin!
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bbstl 🧹
January 8, 2019 at 9:19 PM
The sight of Hyun Bin at one's kitchen counter in the morning? The swooniest. 😍😍😍
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Evelyn
January 9, 2019 at 12:04 AM
Yes I love the child actress too! I just checked and omg, she's 12/13 (born in 2006), but seems to exude maturity beyond her years. Also love her for being so steady whilst acting opposite Hyun Bin!
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dieyb
January 11, 2019 at 12:09 AM
i love the fact that Jin Woo (almost) always smiling when he was with Mon Joo. XDDD
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Annie
January 12, 2019 at 5:10 AM
that's right, he always seemed so relaxed during their interactions!
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46 SooHa
January 8, 2019 at 7:46 PM
I love how witty Jin Woo is :D
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47 growingbeautifully
January 8, 2019 at 11:35 PM
In case anyone would like to read a game recap, you may like to visit: http://bitchesoverdramas.com/2019/01/08/memories-of-the-alhambra-game-recap/
Tagging for possible interest: @alex8825 @katakwasabi @lordcobol @lotus @dogemama @abz008
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48 Dez
January 9, 2019 at 5:00 AM
I love reading your recaps, despite the fact that I have already rewatched this episode nth time. I get heart broken at watching Jin-woo's hesitation when asked to form alliance with Prof Cha. He must be breaking up inside, to see the one he looks up to as a fatherly figure, treating him like a traitor. That part and the secretary's death made me burst into tears (mind you I rarely cry, not even with the ending of titanic sinking LOL).
I can't wait to see the next chapter but sadden by the fact that I will seeing goodbye to this amazing drama soon.
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49 lexyk
January 9, 2019 at 6:38 AM
Even though I am late (I have watched this episode only yesterday) and have yet to read other comments, I just have to say that I have never felt so strongly about a second lead before: I find Sang-Beom SO ANNOYING. I mean I understand it "feels" like you are family, but seriously dude what gives you the right to go that far! I mean, I see Hee Joo's personality as allowing people to do a lot of things to her without saying a thing, but I was actually so glad she put him in his rightful place: nothing. I would have loved for her to be really really mad, more than she portrayed, but I ended up accepting Hee Joo's character and personality as the mellow, passive type.
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50 blessingwind
January 9, 2019 at 9:50 AM
The last minutes of this episode was so good and thrilling. I was on the edge of my seat when Jin Woo was asking Professor Cha to become allies. The guy is smart enough to use that tactic. Finally we could get to see Professo's Cha's horror face and his screams to save him after making everyone's life so messed up. It is Karma time.
I dont know why i cant enjoy the romance between Hee joo and Jin woo in this drama. They have a very sizzling chemistry. I could feel them in the kiss scene, but somehow they dont suit each other much because maybe this show is more into the action genre rather than a melo. Hee Joo's character is so plain and dull and she doesnt shine like other characters. Emma on the other hand brings the mysteriousness to her character and that is refreshing as of now.
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