Misty: Episodes 1-6 (Open Thread)
by odilettante
mary: We’re trying something new! (Or rather, reviving an old thing and making it new again!) We’re kicking off weekly Open Threads for shows that we absolutely want need to talk about and dissect with the Dramabeans community, but don’t have time to write complete recaps for.
odilettante: Or for shows where it’s too late to go back and pick up, yet deserve love and attention. While we wish we’d thought of this sooner (*cough*Just Between Lovers*cough*), we’re creating this space to squee, speculate, and generally discuss JTBC’s current Friday-Saturday drama, Misty.
mary: This first post is just to catch up with Episodes 1-6. Next week, we’ll post another Open Thread for Episodes 7-8, and the week after that is for Episodes 9-10, and so on until our angsty power couple reunites in the end or Go Hye-ran runs out of gorgeous pantsuits.
odilettante: GASP. Don’t even think about Hye-ran running out of pantsuits! It’s impossible! I’m pretty sure are three things Hye-ran cares most about: power, passion, and pantsuits. Not necessarily in that order.
mary: We may do this format for other currently airing shows too, depending on how much y’all like it. So let us know in the comments below what you think. Oh, and friendly reminder that the No Spoilers rule still applies here, so if you’re reading this after watching Episodes 7-8, please wait for the next Misty Open Thread to talk about it. Thanks!
odilettante: Now for a quick weecap of the past six episodes, addressing the highlights of what’s happened so far (while hoping that Hye-ran doesn’t question our journalistic integrity).
EPISODES 1-6 WEECAP
Misty is about a top news anchorwoman, GO HYE-RAN (Kim Nam-joo). She’s come from nothing, working hard all her life to win her coveted spot as the main nightly anchor on JBC News Nine. Now, the station keeps trying to fade her out in order to bring in a fresh, younger face, but Hye-ran skillfully takes down her opposition by proving she’s still the best — or at least the most craftily manipulative — and that no one should underestimate her.
Her next goal is to become the spokesperson for the Blue House, and it’ll take her husband’s political connections to make that happen, even though she’s currently estranged from him.
KANG TAE-WOOK (Ji Jin-hee) is the kind of perfect guy born with a silver spoon who has everything handed to him. The son of a Chief Justice, he graduated top in his class and easily got a job with the best prosecution team. But he is also a Man of Integrity, and eventually chooses to become a public defender, taking on impossible-to-win cases in order to help those who are unable to fight against the rich and powerful.
He and Hye-ran still try to keep up appearances as a couple, but at home, they barely speak and tensions are high ever since Hye-ran aborted her baby years ago, because it would conflict with her (then) budding career as news anchor.
As if that wouldn’t make their marriage rocky enough, added to the mix is KEVIN LEE (Go Joon), a famous golf pro who has returned to Korea. Hye-ran, desperate to prove to the network that she’s still the best anchorwoman, youth be damned, promises to snag an interview with the mysterious sports star.
Only she discovers that Kevin is really Lee Jae-young, her old boyfriend from years ago, back when she was young and passionately in love (so passionately that JTBC had to rate some episodes as 19, instead of their usual 15). He’s the man she dumped so she can marry Tae-wook and his political background. Another surprise: that man is now married to one of Hye-ran’s old high school acquaintances, SEO EUN-JOO (Jeon Hye-jin).
Kevin insists that the only journalist he wants to work with is Hye-ran, which means they end up working closely together. More closely than Hye-ran necessarily feels comfortable with. Cautious and cagey, Hye-ran knows Kevin is up to something, but despite her inner struggle, she’s firm that it’s just business between them.
She even sets up her younger rival, HAN JI-WON (Jin Ki-joo), to be caught in a scandal with him. Not that there’s any evidence that Hye-ran is involved — she knows Kevin’s a playboy and Ji-won is attracted to fame and power, so Hye-ran merely exploits their weaknesses for her own gain. The potential for a scandal causes Ji-won to be demoted, effectively removing all of Hye-ran’s problems.
That is, until Hye-ran’s caught in Kevin’s trap. He orchestrates an interview/trip to Thailand and barges in her room, pinning her down and trying to remind her of the chemistry they once shared. Hye-ran fights him off at first before kissing back in a moment of weakness, and unknown to her, Kevin’s lackey captures that moment on camera.
Kevin threatens to share those photos in retaliation for her ruining his image, thanks to her report on the corrupt corporation he’s modeling for. (Conveniently, it’s the same large corporation that Tae-wook is fighting against with one of his poor clients.) Hye-ran grudgingly agrees to meet Kevin. As they sit in Hye-ran’s car together, a heart-broken Tae-wook watches them from afar, realizing his wife lied to him about her involvement with Kevin.
That’s the same night that Kevin is found dead, his car run off the road. Around the same time, Hye-ran’s brooch — the one Tae-wook bought her to celebrate the pregnancy, but that she accepted as a congratulations on her new anchorwoman position — goes missing, only to be discovered in Kevin’s car.
It ties her to Kevin’s death, and DETECTIVE KANG (Ahn Nae-sang) believes that not only was Kevin’s death not an accident, but that Hye-ran was personally involved. Of course, that means her role as the News Nine anchorwoman is suddenly on shaky ground. No one wants a suspected murderer telling them the news.
Like a knight on a white horse, Tae-wook sweeps in to insist that Hye-ran is now his client, invoking her right to remain silent. But Hye-ran speaks for herself and is adamant that she didn’t kill Kevin.
Maybe she didn’t, because suddenly there are so many others on the scene who might have had reasons to get rid of Kevin. Such as his wife, Eun-joo, who despite her cheerful and naive appearance, is fully aware that her husband has been cheating on her ever since they got married.
Plus, Hye-ran met Eun-joo that night, showing her the photos that were taken when Kevin forcefully kissed her. Hye-ran warned Eun-joo that if the photos of Kevin’s sexual assault were leaked to the public, his career would not only be over, but both women would also be ruined. Perhaps Eun-joo, desperate to make sure her unborn child would have a good life, decided to get rid of the problem by getting rid of her husband.
Or perhaps a mysterious man just released from prison (with an equally mysterious connection to Hye-ran) killed Kevin for reasons that are yet unknown.
Or perhaps it was Tae-wook, wanting to protect his wife like he’s promised to do since he asked her to marry him. The list of suspects grows with each episode, but as we learn more about Kevin’s true nature, the real question isn’t “Who killed Kevin?” but rather “Who didn’t want to kill Kevin?”
The truth of what happened that night and the proof of Hye-ran’s innocence could be found on her car’s black box recording. Except it’s disappeared from her car, only to be found later by Eun-joo in her dead husband’s clothing.
But the black box video turns out to be even more damning as it shows Hye-ran and Kevin kissing — and perhaps doing something more, judging by Eun-joo’s reaction. Eun-joo meets with Hye-ran to tell her that she hopes to repay Hye-ran for all the kindness Hye-ran has shown her since her return to Korea. Eun-joo’s words may sound pleasant, but there’s an ominous tension when Tae-wook suddenly joins the two women.
COMMENTS
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mary: Look, I am here for Go Hye-ran. She’s a very flawed heroine, but she has set rules and principles for navigating the world and she sticks to them. She’s never lost by following her instincts so far. She just seems like someone who’ll always win, y’know? It’s the way she carries herself, like being accused of murder seems like a minor inconvenience.
odilettante: I’ve been ride-or-die for Hye-ran since the first episode. Maybe she didn’t kill Kevin, but if she told me to do it, I would have, without question. So I can’t blame Tae-wook, who knows that Hye-ran isn’t being completely truthful about her and Kevin, for being ready to face all comers to defend his wife’s name.
mary: Yup. I can totally see why Tae-wook stares at his un-filed divorce papers and sleeps in the office for years but chooses to stay and support her ambitions anyway. Even if her half-truths are killing his puppy eyes (and my heart).
odilettante: I also want to mention that, beyond the charisma of its leading actors, Misty has a gorgeous production value. The cinematographer and the lighting director both previously worked on Forest of Secrets, and you can totally tell since there’s a rich cinematic vibe to each scene. Finally, while we’re creating space to discuss this amazing show, I think we should take time to focus on the important questions. Such as, how many pantsuits does Hye-ran own?
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mary: Oooh is it question time? Because I want to ask if any beanies know why the show is called Misty.
odilettante: Is there actual meaning behind the title, or is it just one of those “because this English word sounds cool” drama titles? Then there’s the most important question of them all: when will we get another rated 19 episode? C’mon JTBC, you’ve raised our expectations — don’t disappoint us now!
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1 Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
February 21, 2018 at 8:02 PM
YAAAAASS ~!!! Thank you, DB Staff for listening to the cries of us Beanies and reviving this!!!!! I can't wait for this to happen with other dramas ~!!!
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Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
February 21, 2018 at 8:06 PM
I have a feeling that there may be a need to put a "Threads" tab at the top of the site if more and more of these Drama Threads will be made, fo navigation's sake
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KSKalways
February 22, 2018 at 5:51 AM
I agree @bebeswtz
there needs to be a few more tabs to make navigation easier, so we "The Beanies who always Watch Shows Once the Hype has Passed" can easily search for all these great "weecaps" and tags!
Please please pwwweaaase @javabeans @girlfriday
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mary
February 22, 2018 at 6:44 AM
It has "Open Thread" in the title but technically (in the err... tech side of things), it counts as a recap. If you go to Misty's Show page or just search for the Misty show, the OTs for Misty will be shown in order like a normal recap. http://www.dramabeans.com/shows/misty/
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KSKalways
February 22, 2018 at 6:52 AM
@mary I understand, but I was mostly referring to the ease (or therein lack of) with which one can find very old posts such as "Year in Review" or "Theme of the Month" or the segment about getting to know the Beanie writers etc... or does the use of the search button usually do the trick?
mary
February 22, 2018 at 7:52 AM
@kethysk Search seems to be broken right now. Like a lot of things on the site *sigh* but year in reviews have their own tag! http://www.dramabeans.com/tag/year-in-review/
So do Theme of the Month and Staff Spotlight: http://www.dramabeans.com/tag/theme-of-the-month
http://www.dramabeans.com/tag/staff-spotlight
I'm not sure if we should add a tab for Threads at this point since we only have a few and they already show up in the Recaps. I'm more worried about the maintenance point of it. Like what happens if we have a new feature with a new name? Do we keep adding a tab? What if it overflows? Then we'll have to sit down and really plan a flexible system for it when really, we just wanted to open a space for Misty because we love this show and wanna talk with beanies about it. Huhu... And even then, if we manage to create a flexible system for the tabs, people will complain if we change how they work, because they would have gotten used to it by then. And then we'd be dealing with even more complaints instead of working on fixes or talking about kdramas. It's a sad cycle...
KSKalways
February 22, 2018 at 7:59 AM
@mary I guess I'll just keep quiet and navigate as per usual...
thanks for the detailed response :-)
mary
February 22, 2018 at 8:14 AM
@kethysk heyyyy, sorry :'( I didn't want to make you feel bad about suggestions. It's why I just stay quiet when people discuss what's happening. I don't know how to explain things without spreading the sadness around. :( I'm sorry, I hope you weren't hurt by my explanation.
KSKalways
February 22, 2018 at 8:33 AM
ZERO offense taken, @mary!!
I just didn't realize how much work would be involved in the background.
Have a marvelous day and don't mind me and my Beanie demands! LOL
Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
February 22, 2018 at 9:01 AM
Oooh okay, gotchu 😉 Thank you for the detailed response, @mary 😊 And to all the staff who work so hard to keep this space running 💖💖💖 *finger hearts for everyone*
Gidget
February 22, 2018 at 12:57 PM
This suggestion is perhaps nothing more than an ode to trying to sneak in page views when there's very little time.
How about this:
Most obvious / effective for people new to DB:
1. Move the "Currently Recapping" section to the top of the home page.
Change "Currently Recapping" to "Currently Discussing". (Or add "Currently Discussing".)
Put click-through icons for all applicable shows.
2. Less obvious for newbies, but equally effective:
Put a link at the top that jumps you to an explanded "Currently Recapping / Discussing" section at the bottom.
spicykimchi
February 22, 2018 at 7:07 AM
I think I might start watching Misty thanks to this open thread! It will become the first drama I would watch live! Though I'm not sure my head and heart would survive from all the speculative questions and theories!
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Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
February 22, 2018 at 9:03 AM
Haha Indont think my heart is ready for such a drama like “Misty”, but I am glad there’s a space on Dramabeans where others, who also may or may not be watching and keeping up with it, are able to discuss about the drama, as it was regrettable that there was not one done earlier for “Just Between Lovers”, a drama that I DID watch XD
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2 liquidsoap
February 21, 2018 at 8:04 PM
This is perfect?? Thank you?? Oh my gosh make one for Mother please!
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mindy
February 21, 2018 at 8:08 PM
My thoughts exactly! Mother, please! I have such an urge to discuss it, especially after today’s episode!
Also, Misty’s on the to-watch list and the existence of this thread might bump it up on my list.
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 8:58 PM
We’re gonna pass along the request to other minions. :’) I haven’t started Mother yet. I’m planning to watch it after my God’s Gift marathon, but Mother will probably be over by then :(
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Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
February 21, 2018 at 9:57 PM
Word of advice: When watching the finale episode--no, even BEFORE you watch the finale episode--- it would be a good idea to put away anything that is chuck-able/throwable towards your screen (be it your computer/laptop screen, tv screen, etc.) so as to not pick it up upon reflex during a "WTF-ery" moment and cause regret over something broken thereafter
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 10:23 PM
I already know the ending! Just not the details. But I know the legend of WTF:14 Days. :)
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Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
February 21, 2018 at 11:55 PM
hahaha "legend of WTF: 14 Days XD That's a new one
Midnight
February 22, 2018 at 3:01 AM
You will still have the urge to throw something! I knew the ending too but I had imagined that there must be some details that would feel logical to me even if not to the other beanies. Spoiler: There isn't!
mary
February 22, 2018 at 8:07 AM
@bebeswtz @midnight I'm always confidently telling beanies "thanks for warning me, I already know" but I bet you're both right, I'm gonna have a meltdown by the time it ends anyway. Watch me eat my own words T____T
Nessa (Bebe) 🌹
February 22, 2018 at 10:23 AM
And when that happens, @mary , know that we will all be here for you with open arms.... Heck!!! Some of us might even be willing to do a rewatch with you as you do your first watch, albeit, our rewatches might be done with half-closed/half-covered eyes with our hands, but....
missjb
February 21, 2018 at 10:14 PM
You don't need to weecap itu @mary, just give us an open thread. I'm dying here
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 10:22 PM
We gotta find a fairy godminion for it. Someone who watches Mother at the very least. Hihi
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missjb
February 21, 2018 at 11:24 PM
I will be grateful. Haha.. Thanks.
deadlybaby
February 21, 2018 at 11:49 PM
God’s gift Lee Bo-Young and Mother Lee Bo-Young are quite different characters so it’ll be a fun switch!!!!
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Dl
February 22, 2018 at 9:48 AM
Can you give a bit more details on how the characters are different? I'm watching Mother now and was thinking about watching God's gift. I'm hesitating a bit if both are too heavy but if God's gift is lighter, it might be a good balance to Mother. Thanks!
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deadlybaby
February 22, 2018 at 7:40 PM
personally, i feel that in God’s Gift, LBY was more rash, more loud, more do/speak and less thinking, while SooJin is a more muted character? she doesn’t speak much, doesn’t show much outward emotion, is more of a thinking character, and even her so called “rash” decison or taking HyeNa wasn’t without thinking. so other than their love for their respective “children” i personally think the characters are largely different esp in personality?
john
February 24, 2018 at 1:25 AM
In God’s Gift, she’s the mother of the missing child. In Mother, she’s the kidnapper/savior. Lee Bo-Young should be in the running for actress of the year if there is such a thing in K Drama .
3 ObsessedMuch
February 21, 2018 at 8:05 PM
Oh wow! The overlords heard our cries for Discussion Threads for dramas not being recapped! Thank you so much guys!
I am not watching Misty but I will be looking forward to such threads for other shows that I love and need to discuss in future! Wish this was a thing during Wise Prison Life and Just Between Lovers- though the latter was taken care of by our beanies ;)
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edgepee
February 22, 2018 at 4:26 AM
where? i really to talk about JBL :(
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ObsessedMuch
February 22, 2018 at 4:46 AM
Heyy.. so many JBL fans got together in one JBL related post and discussed each ep.. There were also discussion threads on @azzo1's wall but I guess they will be too far back on her wall for you to access..
Here is the link for the discussion thread... You might have to scroll down a bit-
http://www.dramabeans.com/2017/11/bound-by-tragedy-healing-through-love-in-jtbcs-just-between-lovers/
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edgepee
February 22, 2018 at 4:48 AM
i love you. thank youuuuuuuuuu. i'll scroll all day if i have to. loved it too much. finished all 16 eps in 2 days.
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ObsessedMuch
February 22, 2018 at 4:56 AM
Awww... have fun! You have like 2500 comments to scroll through!
I bet some beanies might still be lurking there or you can call them by replying on their comments :)
4 purplesheesh
February 21, 2018 at 8:11 PM
Misty, Misty, Misty! I love this show. Everything (and everyone) is so gorgeous! I think the title is Misty because when the weather is Misty, everything becomes indistinct and difficult to see. The same with HyeRan, we know she's not a saint, but she's not the devil either. The same with the murder case, every episode, I change my suspect. This drama isn't usually my cup of tea but now, I'd gladly drink it!
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 8:26 PM
Oh that makes so much sense. Somehow I keep thinking it’s a name. Probably because of Pokemon.
(Sssshhh... don’t tell Queen Hyeran I’m associating cuteness with her)
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Jenmole🍊
February 21, 2018 at 8:47 PM
Glad I wasn't the only one thinking Misty from Pokemon. 😂
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Delurker
February 22, 2018 at 11:22 AM
What the title suggested to me was the movie "Play Misty for Me"; so I checked the lyrics of the song:
http: //www .lyricsfreak.com/e/ella+fitzgerald/ misty_20045836.html
But who knows... :-)
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john
February 24, 2018 at 1:42 AM
@delurker.
You know, Play Misty For Me is just begging to be done K drama style ! It has all the elements ! Handsome male lead, beautiful scenery, wonderful music, sex, obsessive fan, terror.
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Delurker
February 25, 2018 at 12:51 PM
Now you mention it, I am surprised it hasn't been done yet, in the country of sasaeng fans :-))
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Jig
February 25, 2018 at 1:11 PM
Probably because they don't want to give them any more ideas...
Delurker
February 25, 2018 at 2:09 PM
@Jig hahaha probably; perhaps it is too close for comfort...
5 RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
February 21, 2018 at 8:12 PM
Thanks so much for this! I'm not currently watching Misty but I think this is a fantastic idea!
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6 JY299
February 21, 2018 at 8:33 PM
Lol, haven't really watched the show but saw some recaps. Frankly, the flawed heroine is a bit of a struggle since she's unabashedly ambitious and ruthless. Yet for her to betray her husband with that ex after everything else, it's quite terrible. Plus what her husband did for her mother while she was otherwise occupied, seriously??
Anyway, my guess for the title is similar to a response earlier - Misty probably suggests vagueness and a likely preference to make things seem out if focus and pretty. I guess Foggy or Vague don't have the same cache 😂
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 8:50 PM
I feel like it sounds different on paper (or screen text lol) than the actual screen. She’s very ruthless and ambitious, yes, but there were hints as to why she’s fighting so much to get to the top. And it’s not because she likes power. I feel like it’s related to what happened to the childhood friend in jail.
Plus, her fights aren’t easy. Her enemies play very dirty. Much dirtier than her, in fact. To me, it’s great to finally have a heroine who fights back. It’s like the Ned Stark problem. Do you want your hero to stay morally correct when it will cost him his family and leave the bad guys to reign and make a whole kingdom suffer?
I don’t know the answer. But I’m glad Hyeran is giving us a fight instead of the usual “stay nice always and you’ll be blessed in the end because your enemies will be consumed by guilt”.
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Giegie
February 22, 2018 at 12:09 AM
Yay for the Game of Thrones reference. 😍
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Dl
February 22, 2018 at 10:07 AM
Yay for seeing things realistically in a way where the characters can make real changes! Boxing her in as a character who can only play 'clean' to achieve her world of justice is like expecting her to face the baddies with one arm tied behind her back. Having idealistic goals is good only if you can tackle the situation through the lens of realism. I'm not saying be as morally corrupt as the baddies. Don't expect her to be a doormat just because she is a she.
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yasminsatria
February 22, 2018 at 8:41 PM
The scene where she speak and walk away from those reporters at police station... EMPRESS Hyeran!!! Please be my queen.
I love how morally grey she is. Which in other candy drama, she may become the evil mother in law or something, where she scheme and manipulate to gain her goal.
Also, Kevin Lee. Definitely a jerk, but hella sexy one. He is definitely my guilty pleasure, my screen definitely on fire when he shows. If not because Taewook is such a great husband to Empress Hyeran, I might support Kevin to whip her away, career and ambition be damned.
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john
February 24, 2018 at 2:01 AM
Empress Hyeran has a nice ring to it. So much back stabbing, plotting and politics!
JY299
February 22, 2018 at 9:27 PM
@mary I agree with the morally grey and fight back arguments when it comes to enemies and rivals. But the question is when it comes her husband TW, does the same apply? It's a bit hard to swallow when she's apparently betraying someone who has done nothing against her so far.
@maestroca
Female or male, not being a doormat does not necessarily lead to justified betrayal. Perhaps I'm naive but joining them if you can't beat them or playing even dirtier than your enemies is not a great move. We see that move potentially being made by Kevin's wife (suggested in the preview), so if it's a move justified for the protagonist, would it be similarly justified for the supporting antagonist? The cycle of playing dirtier to secure victory is potentially a spiral downwards that leads to further misery for all. Just saying..
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mary
February 22, 2018 at 10:16 PM
If it is a show about people spiraling downwards, then by all means, let everyone spiral. I welcome the idea of Eun-joo fighting back, though I doubt that seducing Tae-wook will be an easy task. She has a better chance acting the loving wife and painting Hye-ran as a homewrecker.
I'm not excusing Hye-ran kissing Kevin in Thailand and betraying her husband as a consequence. Character-wise, I was so disappointed when she kissed Kevin, because I could forgive her ruthlessness with the station enemies, but kissing Kevin was an attack on Tae-wook who wasn't doing anything to her (though this is up for debate). But story-wise, it's fantastic. Because how will the show still make me care about her? What lie is she gonna spin again? How will she be caught? How is her husband going to deal with knowing that?
I think, for those who find the fact that she kissed Kevin unforgivable, the show can't do anything to win them back. But if you want to know the "why did it happen" and "what's gonna happen next" of it, the show has lots more in store for you.
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gem28
February 22, 2018 at 10:34 PM
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gem28
February 22, 2018 at 10:46 PM
As I was saying, marriage gives two people legal right to be physically intimate and Tae Wook wasn't doing his part and Hye Run was upset because of that as shown in the earlier episodes. And that is perfectly reasonable for a woman her age to have the need to be intimate with somebody, have lust, want to have sex. She didn't kiss back Kevin because of love, it was lust. Tae Wook did push her towards that by shutting her out and thus I do not despise her for the kiss. But it was pretty shitty thing to do to another woman, your childhood friend in her case. So, if Eun Joo wants payback, I can't blame her but I have a feeling Ji Won and Hye Run weren't his first case of cheating. Kevin is the greasy guy who feels like a repeat offender, a bit like Tiger Woods. But like you said,that Kiss was Hye Run's first step towards spiraling out of control. She is caught in a vicious cycle of her own lies and its interesting to see where it leads from here on.
Pohonphee
February 22, 2018 at 10:49 PM
If I'm Hye-ran, I'll sue Kevin for sexual assault for that kisses in Thailand. I really wanted to slap bitch him when watching that scene. How dare?!? And I thought how she responded his kisses because she knew she couldn't out match him if she used her physical strength to resist. That's just how she tries to win the game.
JY299
February 22, 2018 at 11:48 PM
Agree with the staying around for the what's going to happen next part. It's the justification part that's disturbing. To have a protagonist that steps on almost every nerve in terms of relationships (abortion of a foetus without mutual consent, physical intimacy with another partner while nominally in a marriage/relationship), that's excellent drama material but grounds that most would find tricky under the best circumstances. I'm just leery of support for a character that's on shaky grounds whatever the reason for the shaky ground. Still, it makes for good drama 😁
kiongna
February 24, 2018 at 9:23 AM
This drama one of the best thing that has come along for a long time... LOVE IT! The intensity, great cast, crew, storyline... been looking forward to every single episode! Miss ya javabeans and girlfriday..I've been so busy with life and work I pop by sometimes... you have a fantabulous team, so proud of you both for coming such a long way! *sending love*
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7 whimsyful
February 21, 2018 at 8:44 PM
Yess thank you! I'm loving this show right now. I love how mature it is - all the main characters are distinct and complicated, often act in their own self interests and aren't black and white. It's so rare to have a female lead like Hye-ran who's allowed to be ruthless and ambitious and scheming (male leads can be, but female leads in a drama almost never are). And we don't just see her be ruthless and scheming, but the in-between moments where she's deliberating and choosing what to do, which really fleshes out her character to me.
I'd say the only weaknesses are 1) I find the directing a little too overly dramatic at times (though the production values are great) and 2) I...don't really care that much about who killed Kevin Lee. I care about who the main characters believe killed him and reacting to accusations, and all the drama it's generating between Hye-ran, Tae-wook and Eun-joo, but as a mystery on it's own not so much.
Also, that kiss scene in ep 6~!
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 8:56 PM
😂 I don’t care about Kevin Lee as a person. But I do wanna know who killed him because they’ve been so good at hiding from us so far. Also I just really want the gossip. Hahaha oh no! I’m the type of person Hyeran will hate in real life.
Also *applause* for what you said re: female characters aren’t usually allowed to be this shady. That’s another thing I liked about this show. I was struck by how layered she is and how conflicted she makes me feel, and I remember all the times I fell in love with complex male villains and was sad we don’t have a lot of Unnis like that. Well now we can add Hyeran to the list! And I’m so glad the show is doing great at dividing us about her character. :)
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Arawn
February 21, 2018 at 11:57 PM
Exactly. I have very conflicting feelings towards Hye-ran and I really enjoy that. I mean, I despise her and find her a horrible hypocrite, but at the same time I admire her resolve and drive and feel sympathy for her struggles. I also really like how she isn't ONLY manipulative and cunning; she does use her husband and manipulates the cr*p out of him, but at the same time she clearly does have feelings for him and these two are mixed together. It's impossible to say where the manipulation stops and feelings start and vice versa. This rings very true to me because rarely are manipulative people devoid of emotions. The fact that you're using people does not mean you feel nothing, you just do it despite the feelings and those feelings do affect you and your manipulations.
I think Hye-ran is a magnificent female character.
(I also kinda wish she had gotten pregnant after episode 6. I'm pretty sure they did it - and the kiss was aaaaawesome!)
Also, I have to say that even though I DO feel sorry for Tae-wook, he did marry Hye-ran with open eyes. She plainly told him she doesn't love him and would end up hurting him. So he has no-one to blame but himself for his situation, but what is really beautiful is that _that is exactly how he behaves_. Well, he's not a saint so he has blamed Hye-ran for some things like the abortion, but overall he does take the responsibility for his decisions and does not judge Hye-ran nor blame her for being herself.
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Dl
February 22, 2018 at 10:17 AM
Mary, I love that about Hye Ran too! It's the same intrigue that I usually have with conflicted male leads because they go through that process and rarely do we see it with female characters. I felt it for the female leads in Mother and in JBL and it's just so good. I hope viewers would stop trying to shove our female characters into the candy roles(conflicted or not) and let them deal with other issues. I would love for them to ultimately stay on the moral high grounds but sometimes, the situation requires them to be scheming.
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MikeyD signed up
February 27, 2018 at 9:32 AM
I was reminded of the villainess in 'The K2', the best TV villain I had seen for a very long time. Coincidentally, Song Yoon-ah (K2 actress) and Kim Nam-joo are only a couple years apart. Their characters rather represent the drive and tenacity needed for women over a certain age to stay relevant.
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8 egads
February 21, 2018 at 9:08 PM
I might have to move Misty up my list now that there is a place to chat about it.
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odilettante
February 22, 2018 at 3:22 AM
Yessssssssss, our evil plan is working.
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Dl
February 22, 2018 at 10:20 AM
LOL! Strong DB females hatching evil plans for the ultimate good! TWO THUMBS UP!!
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9 Ianna
February 21, 2018 at 9:14 PM
Can you make one for Prison Playbook too? Pretty please!!!!
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 9:24 PM
Aww it's already finished airing :(
But there's an old (ignored) feature of the site: Why You Should Watch http://www.dramabeans.com/2016/12/why-you-should-watch-father-ill-take-care-of-you/
Where beanies are encouraged to write a piece about a non-recapped (or not loved-enough) show and convince other readers to watch it. I was thinking of writing one for Prison Playbook but there's so much stuff going on and then Misty started and Mystery Queen is going to start soon too... :((((
It'd be great if someone else writes it though. Playbook deserves more love!
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Ianna
February 21, 2018 at 9:31 PM
Thanks for the link...yes hopefully someone would do a thread for Prison Playbook even though its already finish...
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whoopeeyoo
February 21, 2018 at 10:13 PM
Some beanies ended up discussing Prison Playbook in the first episode recap! :)
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frabbycrabsis loves KBS Drama Specials
February 21, 2018 at 10:59 PM
Yep, we had a party of our own. It died very quickly after about three days, but it was a lot of fun!
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10 zitaliam
February 21, 2018 at 9:18 PM
Thank you, DB! I have been lamenting why this show was not recapped though I understand why. Such intense show require deep concentration and detailed analysis to do justice to it. Open thread is much better in that interested parties can discuss and analyze together.
Having said that, it is quite right to say the right question is not 'who kill' but rather 'who didn't want'. Yet the thrill of this mystery is still 'who did it'. My bet is on the husband but I think there are many surprises before we can actually say for certain.
Yes, I agreed too the quality of the cinematography is superb but there are moments where shots are jittery. Not many k-shows have mastered the smooth handling of camera shoots.
Lastly I am also for Go Hye Ran even if she turns out to be the killer. That is one badass woman in the mean hostile world of sexism and ageism.
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 9:26 PM
I saw a thread last week, was it here or on twitter? That suggests the father-in-law had Kevin Lee killed? That will be interesting. He pioneered the Gold Door Club, and he only accepted Hyeran when she became a newsanchor. So he's definitely someone who values his clan's name.
Plus the harabeoji that plays him is always evil hahaha
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zitaliam
February 21, 2018 at 9:55 PM
Now that is an angle that didn't cross my mind but yeah, it is possible because she is a potential Blue House spokesman, a prestige that the family valued. However it would be a political gamble and high-stake risk that the plot would fireback if Hye Ran did not manage to clear her name absolutely. The whole family's predigree will go down the drain and that is something the patriarch would not want to happen, given that he only recognised her as his daughter-in-law when she landed the anchor seat.
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acacia
February 21, 2018 at 10:50 PM
@silvermists created a mini-thread on this page http://www.dramabeans.com/2017/12/melo-thriller-misty-holds-its-first-script-read/
But this is awesome!! Thanks again for creating this thread!! ❤️❤️❤️
The father-in-law was also the one that told Taewook, "It doesn't matter what the truth is, but what looks like the truth is what really matters."
And I think they mentioned that the Gold Door Club is where law and change is created not necessarily where the law upheld right? 😉
He has the means to create a "perfect" crime. There is definitely more to his character than we know. And just by the few episodes we saw we know how layered each character can get so lots to look forward to!!
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11 merisoo
February 21, 2018 at 9:24 PM
Lol, good to know we made enough of a ruckus over on the "What are We Watching" Post that DB took action. Thank you so much, ladies. Misty is turning out to be a layered drama with enthralling characters. I think we've already discussed the appeal of Hye-Ran. She's a complex, morally grey, multi-layered character who's not afraid to play dirty like her enemies in order to ensure she stays on top. I think it was @news who on the other thread stated that if you analyze most of her actions they are done in defense of herself.
As of watching Episode 6, I don't know how to feel about Eun Joo's attempted revenge plot. From what we can assume, she might start trying to seduce Tae Wook in order to get back at Hye Ran. But, that just seems so unrealistic a plan to me. Not unrealistic for the drama but unrealistic for Eun Joo. If she honestly thinks she can tempt Puppy-Eyed-Tae-Wook away from his wife I think she's going to get a rude awakening. Years of half-truths and living in constant tension with her couldn't even get him to submit divorce papers. Tae Wook for me is very ride-or-die for his wife.
However, the ending has me interested as to what Eun Joo saw on the recording. She was so adamant when she told Tae Wook that she didn't sleep with Kevin. And despite all her lies by omission I really truly believed her character when she said this, but now? I don't know. I felt like Eun Joo's reaction to the black box recording was so intense that maybe they DID sleep together. Because for a woman who already knew her husband was a cheating scumbag I can't see her reacting that strongly to them making out in a car.
I'm really interested in the second arc of the drama with our mysterious ex-con and super excited to see these two men, one from Hye-Ran's past and one from her present, both supposedly in love with her (or at least holding some level of affection) fighting on her behalf. This is getting GOOOOOOOODDDD y'all.
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 9:34 PM
Y'know it's interesting to me that you assumed that (and also @odilettante ) thought that they did more than make out for Eunjoo to get mad.
For me, they just made out in the car. Eun-joo's reaction is (I think) that feeling of betrayal after seeing them make out like that. From her point of view, Hyeran lied to her about Kevin Lee "forcing" their proximity. Hyeran lied and acted like a friend, pretending to care about her baby and ushering her back to the US. From Eunjoo's point of view, Hyeran is trying to get rid of her (which is true). But I think the greatest betrayal is Eunjoo can probably tell that Kevin genuinely loves Hyeran. He's always cheated in the past but he never threatened to leave her. But in their last fight, something changed. Enough that Kevin had the balls to call Eunjoo's bluff re: divorce. Call it women's intuition, but Eunjoo seeing them making out like that in the car was probably enough for her to guess that Hyeran was the reason for Kevin's personality change.
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merisoo
February 21, 2018 at 9:49 PM
That's so possible too and definitely a valid reason for her anger!
To add to it, I think they were back in Korea for such a short time that it would be naive of Eun Joo to think that Kevin would leave her for Hye-Ran, a woman he's just recently met (assuming she still doesn't know about their past). Especially, since he was also sleeping with Ji Won at the same time that he was allegedly 'sleeping' with Hye Ran. But of course, grief/betrayal can alter the way people behave/react to things
Their relationship looks like one that has had so many issues with trust and fidelity already. I don't find Eun Joo's hurt that sympathetic just because she knew exactly the type of man Kevin was and still chose to push forward with pretending they had this perfect life while paying off his mistresses. It also makes that scene from an earlier episode where she was staring lovingly at a huge framed picture of them on the wall so weird. You knew he's scum and your still admiring your relationship as though it's goals?? I don't get it.
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 11:06 PM
I also don't find her pitiful. She's a strong woman in her own right. She worked hard to feed and push Kevin to the championships, kept up appearances of a happy marriage despite all that cheating... she's definitely another girl who gets what she wants. But she's definitely a good enemy for Hye-ran. Maybe not to take away Tae-wook but to totally mess up Hye-ran's hard-earned reputation.
If a national sports idol's pregnant widow points at Hye-ran and shows video proof that she's her husband's mistress... it's totally game over for her. Kevin-murderer or not.
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merisoo
February 23, 2018 at 10:40 AM
I know, the public will definitely turn on Hye-Ran if Eun Joo decides to do that. I guess I just don't fully buy into Eun Joo's huge sense of betrayal and anger that she feels? It just feels so weird because these are two women who haven't seen each other in YEARS. And the moment they do see each other again Eun Joo behaves as though they're super close friends who have been in contact for sooo long. But they aren't and from Hye Ran's perspective, we get that they were more acquaintances than anything. Basically, the type of high school friends who hang out with each other due to circumstance not because of any actual authentic bond. It feels very one-sided and so I can't fully be on board with her emotions.
Endo
February 21, 2018 at 11:58 PM
I think i might be the only one who thinks that Hyeran purposely made out with Kevin and had it recorded. For what purpose? I don't know. I just think that she's not into it.
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mary
February 22, 2018 at 12:20 AM
I agree she’s not into it. It felt like she was buttering up Kevin. I’m just not sure if she recorded it on purpose.
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CS
February 22, 2018 at 7:08 PM
I totally agree! It seemed to me like she was aware of the camera and had some sort of plan. She looked bored with the kissing.
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merisoo
February 23, 2018 at 10:41 AM
Oh, she definitely made out with him on purpose. Hye Ran is always thinking ahead. I think the black box chip going missing is what she definitely didn't plan for.
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odilettante
February 22, 2018 at 3:27 AM
I was thinking Hye-ran kissed Kevin as some sort of set-up -- she clearly didn't look into it and I was wondering if she actually looked into the webcam while they were kissing.
But what makes me wonder if there was something *more* was not just Eun-joo's reaction to the video, but the fact that her reaction was interspersed with Hye-ran and Tae-wook kissing, and a fade to black that made me go "ohhhhh, yes, husband and wife are finally gettin' it on after all this time of separation."
This is why I'm grumbly that ep 6 was rated 15. We can only speculate. If it was rated 19 like eps 1-4, we would KNOW.
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odilettante
February 22, 2018 at 4:33 AM
Not webcam, black box cam, I am dumb.
(or this is a veeeeeeery different show than we originally thought 😂)
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
February 22, 2018 at 5:10 AM
But what makes me wonder if there was something *more* was not just Eun-joo's reaction to the video, but the fact that her reaction was interspersed with Hye-ran and Tae-wook kissing
Yesss EXACTLY! This is what made me question the situation as well. This juxtaposition of the kissing scenes.
That was clearly purposeful, and drawing parallels...but we don't know what the exact implication is, since we don't know what or IF anything happened after HR and TW kissed in that office. Uuuugh!
And I also initially thought that Hye-ran kissed Kevin in the car as part of a set-up... but I'm not sure what the outcome is supposed to be, since she's the one who kissed him first and not the other way around. How would she explain that, if she planned to do something with the footage?
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 9:38 PM
And OMG the prison guy. Please pleaaaaaaaaaase let him be still on Hyeran's side. It would be unfair if he has grudges against her or her husband too. Give our girl some breathing room!
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merisoo
February 21, 2018 at 9:42 PM
I don't think he has any grudges against her (read: super duper hoping he doesn't !). We saw in the flashbacks that he's the one who told her to leave and forget about him. But of course, anything is possible. Here's to us preemptively rooting for him though lol!
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acacia
February 21, 2018 at 10:33 PM
I also don't think he has any grudges and perhaps he even wants to help her.
BUT I think his mere presence can be threatening to her because of the past murder he went into jail for. He told her to leave but my suspicion is that it may be because she has a connection to that murder.
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 11:07 PM
I feel like she was the one who killed the loan shark by accident, and Jail Oppa took the fall for Hye-ran because he loved her/she had a better future, etc.
acacia
February 21, 2018 at 11:25 PM
@mary was it a loan shark? I think someone also had suspicions that Jail Oppa may be Hyeran's real oppa and the person murdered may have been Hyeran's dad.... but writing this up now... that couldn't have possibly flown past Taewook's dad... I got to think this over
mary
February 21, 2018 at 11:31 PM
I just assumed it was a loan shark because of his description to Tae-wook. I forgot the exact words but maybe it IS purposefully vague. Just like everything else on this show. WHAT IS THE TRUTH
Endo
February 21, 2018 at 11:45 PM
From the way he describe it. It must be sunbae from uni. Or someone really powerful.
Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
February 22, 2018 at 5:26 AM
@acacia was it a loan shark? I think someone also had suspicions that Jail Oppa may be Hyeran's real oppa...
My first thought was that he's her real oppa.... but I also can't see how that could've gone past everyone's notice? And wouldn't Hye-ran have worried about the Blue House people finding out about him IF he was her real brother? I mean, they can erase him from their thoughts, but they can't completely erase all proof of his existence like family registry, etc... or can they?
Then the other possibility is that he was her BF or at least in love with her, which would make things very interesting with the Past Love vs. (supposedly) Current Love... if he still has feelings for her. OR with a revenge plotline if he was holding a grudge all those years.
acacia
February 22, 2018 at 11:48 AM
@yuyuu you're right. He described Hyeran as a good friend so perhaps it is a one-sided love or first love? They were so young though, that dedication to stay in prison for that long is so crazy to me. I still think the possibility may be a half-brother (so on different family registries) or a full brother (but still on different family registries, I believe females can put children on their own registry). I really want Jail Oppa to be on Hyeran's side still, but I guess we'll have to see...
merisoo
February 23, 2018 at 10:46 AM
Omgoodness I didn't even think about the fact that Jail-Bae might of went to prison to take the blame for what she might have done.
This just got a whole lot better.
mrsdimple
February 21, 2018 at 10:30 PM
Oh my god yesss! I was hoping that the prison guy is on hye ran's side. Please let them be a team! Hye ran + tae wook + prison guy + nice ahjussi from the law firm + hye ran cutie hoobae. I want all of them to be the good guy!
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 11:11 PM
Okay, I want to start a separate thread for Cutie Hoobae. Namely, why can't the station use him as the main anchor instead?
He passes all the checks!
[1] Goodlooking (tied with Jiwon)
[2] Hardworking (not sure, let's give a tie with Jiwon)
[3] Journalistic integrity (advantage vs Jiwon)
If I were Hye-ran, I'll be grooming him as my successor instead.
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Dl
February 22, 2018 at 11:05 AM
Cutie Hoobae is Hye Ran's assistant who defended her when all the staff was ragging on her right? So far, he's a keeper...but he has video of Kevin Li in Hye Ran's personal space when she was giving him the questions just before their first TV interview. I wonder when that video will surface.
mary
February 22, 2018 at 12:42 PM
@maestroca at the rate everyone is trying to pull Hyeran down, just the fact that he hasn't shown the video to anyone yet makes him Good People in my book.
It's like he knows Hyeran is flawed but he chooses to trust her anyway: not telling Jiwon about meeting Kevin Lee at the airport, not sharing the accidental Kevin/Hyeran footage, telling his sunbaes off for speculating without proof, etc...
And a sidenote but this is why I'll never be Hyeran. LOL I feel like if she's the one who knows Cutie Hoobae has footage, she'd immediately do something to get it back, not trust hoobae to stay quiet like what he's been doing so far.
bunny
February 23, 2018 at 10:25 AM
[4] Speaks english
[5] Trustworthy minion for the fact that he kept that video between hyeran and kevin and didnt leak it (he even trembled as he recorded that). He is a keeper indeed.
He reminded me of Kim Soo Hyun in Producer, btw. So cute, so diligent, so caring, such a good minion indeed. I hope he stays that way.
Arawn
February 22, 2018 at 12:09 AM
I believe Hye-ran when she says she didn't sleep with Kevin Lee. I also think drama would not go there because cheating is a huge issue to resolve between a couple and Korea is not very accepting of women cheating... Although, technically speaking, Hye-ran did cheat already when she kissed Kevin in the car. In the hotel it was clearly a sexual assault. It doesn't even matter if Hye-ran was a bit into it at some point during the assault, because she very clearly did not want it but Kevin didn't care. (He's a total creep, huh.)
In my opinion, Eun-joo's reaction can be explained by the fact that Hye-ran was her friend. She was ready to forgive Kevin for other women, but not for having hanky panky with her _friend_. So, it would be logical if she would go ballistic for the thought of Hye-ran being an active participant because that is what she will look like in the video; she is the one who kisses Kevin. It doesn't have to show them actually sleeping together, it's enough to see them kissing passionately (we know Hye-ran was only pretending but it probably won't show in the video). That alone would be an utter betrayal but obviously Eun-joo would assume they've also slept together and that Hye-ran was lying to her about Kevin's assault.
In normal circumstances I would say Eun-joo would not go for revenge, but situation is not normal. She has just lost her husband and found out he's been cheating on her with her dear friend* - and she has been bitterly betrayed by the said friend (again, this is not true, but this is probably how Eun-joo sees the situation).
Hye-ran has a HUGE problem with lying and trust. And truth in overall. She goes around talking about the just society but will lie in a heartbeat if it benefits her. She doesn't trust anyone and so doesn't tell anyone the truth, not even her husband even though he wants to help her. But what is most aggravating, for me, is the fact that she CONSTANTLY lies to Tae-wook (both by omission and otherwise) and yet she has the gall to demand his trust and acts all hurt when he doesn't outright believe her.
(Don't get me wrong, I really love her character, but the lady is a hypocrite of the highest order. :D )
*Even though they haven't met for years, it's clear Eun-joo considers Hye-ran as a close friend and really cares for her still
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emmaaa
February 24, 2018 at 4:18 PM
"It doesn't have to show them actually sleeping together, it's enough to see them kissing passionately (we know Hye-ran was only pretending but it probably won't show in the video)."
Wait, hyeran was pretending during that kiss? What? Why? Also, how did you know? I didn't pick up on that at all.
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
February 28, 2018 at 10:40 AM
I'm so late to this thread, but has anyone talked about the idea that Eun-Joo has something to do with Kevin's murder? There is something in the actress's look that makes me think there's a level of capability and diabolicalness that shouldn't be overlooked. And maybe the black box reveals that HR didnt do it, or even something potentially damning to EJ herself? I dont know. Maybe it's a stretch. I don't think EJ slept with Kevin. Wasn't Tae Wook in a car watching them the whole time himself, anyway? So nothing on that black box related to the kissing would be particularly new to him, right? (The Thailand kiss I maintain is sexual assault. It persists SO LONG despite her resistance that it's uncomfortable even to watch. Maybe she gave in or maybe not, but I think that was a violation.)
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12 Ashi
February 21, 2018 at 9:35 PM
HALLELEUJAH!!! May the drama gods bless you and all your loved ones! While I'm not watching this show, just thinking about doing this with future shows that may not be recapped makes me squee. THINK OF THE POSSIBILITIES! THINK OF THE AMOUNT OF DRAMA EXPOSURE WE CAN GET FROM THIS OPEN-THREAD FORMAT.
I trust the people on this site for drama recommendations more than anyone else's. And I realized that as time went on, and the recappers recapped less and less shows (for timing issues), currently airing non-recapped dramas were being less discussed. Which meant less dramas for me to watch. But imagine what we could do now that we have these open-threads?! You guys just opened the flood-gate to an ocean of new dramas that we can discuss as a community. <3 Thank you
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 9:43 PM
I don't know if it's good or bad that it's inspiring you to watch even more kdramas hihihi
But I totally feel you about the discussion thing. I'm usually drawn to a show if my friends from twitter or dramabeans are watching and discussing something. If beanies are talking about a show, there's a larger chance I'll be tempted to watch.
Or there's also the reverse where I pick up a show from twitter friends but I need need need to discuss it more with beanies, but it's not being recapped, and the comments are spread out in the fanwalls or generic Open Thread or What We're Watching post. T____T
Also, thanks for understanding the busy-ness issue and not getting mad that we can only do Open Threads and not complete recaps! ♥
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13 dramacupcake101
February 21, 2018 at 9:41 PM
Can you please make one for Should We Kiss First. 4eps are out and it's more fun than I thought so far. It's the melodrama king comeback drama so I know there will be pain later on.
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 9:45 PM
In the words of @odilettante : "Don't tempt me"
(Seriously though, she saw the first few eps and liked it...)
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odilettante
February 22, 2018 at 3:32 AM
DON'T TEMPT ME.
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egads
February 22, 2018 at 3:48 AM
Ahhhh, just do it. You know you want to.
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wakimary
February 22, 2018 at 4:30 AM
you know you want to...😉
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dramacupcake101
February 22, 2018 at 6:12 AM
JOIN USSSSS. It's really fun so far just think of it as when the pain starts at least we will have the first week to look back on.
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mary
February 22, 2018 at 8:19 AM
The Cupcake makes a good point, odilettante
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odilettante
February 22, 2018 at 1:42 PM
But will I be able to cheat on Hye-ran? *frets*
egads
February 22, 2018 at 3:21 PM
Polydramary is becoming more accepted as society recognizes monodramary is just not possible for all people.
Hye-ran will understand.
MapleSilver
February 22, 2018 at 8:59 AM
If you are looking for a recap/discussion on Should We Kiss First, bah-doo is covering that show, and it would be nice to support other drama bloggers, too.
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14 Kdramalover988
February 21, 2018 at 9:46 PM
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15 superwhopotterlock
February 21, 2018 at 9:57 PM
I'm actually interested to know more about tae wook. .what's going on in his mind. ..These episodes acc to me have shown very less of his pov. While it's commendable that he's being by his wife's side through this(and refreshing to see the gender swap), I still can't shake this feeling that there's more to him than what meets the eye. I can't quite put my finger on it.
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 11:20 PM
I want to know more about him too. He's got some amazing self-restraint to stay married with her. With the amount of emotion pouring out of his eyes, you'd think he'd either divorced her, made out with her, or even murdered Kevin Lee right away.
But I love what Ji Jin-hee is doing with his eyes when he's with Hye-ran. He's mostly just angsty on the surface but it's different kinds of angst.
1. I love you but I don't want to show it angst
2. God dammit but you're still an amazing woman angst
3. I'm here for business but you're welcome to reunite with me angst
4. I know you're lying, can't you please tell me the truth angst
5. I know you're lying, I don't care anymore, I love you angst
6. Oh thank god you love me too angst
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February 22, 2018 at 12:05 AM
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superwhopotterlock
February 22, 2018 at 12:10 AM
Wow to be able to express so much angst without uttering a single word! Does she love him though? Maybe not in the way he does or wants but we have plenty of time to catch up. .till then they can continue whatever they were doing in ep 6 ahem
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
February 28, 2018 at 10:43 AM
I don't think she loves him---yet. But I do think this show will show her fall in love with him. I agree that there's a lot going on and the actor is SO GREAT at the unspoken emotions--but I also think the character doesnt have a lot of dimension yet. So far he just seems like Superman to me---unfailingly just and virtuous, but without a lot of complicatedness (to be fair, though, there are real people like that. and maybe thats not a bad counterpart for someone as complex as our heroine?)
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superwhopotterlock
February 28, 2018 at 7:23 PM
Yeah I agree that we haven't seen other sides of him. .maybe that's why his character comes across as a little bland if my term is correct. .like I said his pov is still kept a secret from us. .but hopefully we'll see more once he comes to know the events of that night and it'll be good to see him struggling between the idea of protecting her and ofc the betrayal he feels and how he chooses to act
Arawn
February 22, 2018 at 12:20 AM
I often feel sorry for Tae-wook, but honestly, not only did he marry Hye-ran fully aware of her character and her not loving him, he DID treat her poorly for the past five years. Yes, Hye-ran having an abortion without discussing it with him was absolutely wrong and a horrible thing to do, but punishing her for five years by a type of a silent treatment is also wrong. The right thing to do would've been letting her go if he was so angry and hurt by her betrayal of their family or working to accept and forgive. He did neither.
But, I do not blame him. I understand where he's coming from and he has taken full responsibility of his actions and seeks to rectify them. He's not without his faults but he's a good man able to admit when he's in the wrong.
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Dl
February 22, 2018 at 3:06 PM
Great list of angsts! Now I feel compelled to play the Match the Angst to a Misty Scene game and that means more Tae Wook! Haha
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16 MikeyD signed up
February 21, 2018 at 9:58 PM
Oh, the show is actually called 'Misty'? Its not an awkward translation from Korean like any one of the half dozen versions I've seen 'Goblin' translated to?
The actress Jeon Hye-jin (golfer's wife) is driving me crazy. She looks soooo familiar! I checked her bio but I don't recognize the movie titles. I know I've seen her before, but where?
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MapleSilver
February 21, 2018 at 10:21 PM
Maybe you saw her in the 2004 drama "I'm Sorry, I Love You" starring So Ji-sub and Lim Su-joong? Or maybe you knew her as Lee Seon-kyun's wife in real life?
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acacia
February 21, 2018 at 10:36 PM
Yup! It's the literal translation of the Korean title! The title is actually an English title just phonetically Koreanized for this drama.
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 11:22 PM
Y'know when I started Misty I was 100% sure I saw her in a recent drama. I feel like she's been everywhere as a mom or friend or episodic side character. I'm even sure I know where I last saw her, but the past 6eps of Misty erased all that!
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17 Regals
February 21, 2018 at 10:01 PM
I might be misinterpreting but my impression was that mysterious prison guy was still in prison when Kevin's murder happened, so he wouldn't be the killer. Am I wrong? Maybe I should go back and rewatch.
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acacia
February 21, 2018 at 10:41 PM
You're right! He was in prison when the murder happened. That was why I first had him off of my list of suspects but thinking about it more I put him back on because Jail Guy can potentially be the one who hired someone while inside the jail to kill Kevin.
I'm copying and pasting something I wrote up in a different thread but here goes reasons and reasons not for him being a potential suspect as a murderer:
Reasons: He seems like he wants to protect Hyeran at all costs and has heard about a potential relationship between the two in jail. He seem to have sources too, I mean, how did he find the manager's sister's hospital bed after being in jail and not knowing anyone for 19 years???
Reasons not: Jail Guy seems to be the type to take care of things on his own and not let other people do his "dirty" work. But we never know right? Prison changes people 😭
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Endo
February 21, 2018 at 11:42 PM
Now that you mention the possible connections of Jail Oppa. It might be possible that he killed Kevin Lee. Also, it seems to me that J.O. got on the good side of the prison guards. So i'm thinking he go out from time to time?
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acacia
February 22, 2018 at 1:05 AM
It actually felt like he was a recluse and mystery to the jail guards too. I remember the jail guards wondering what Jail Oppa would do next to keep himself in prison. I think his prison sentence was shorter but he did crimes in prison on purpose to stay in longer (maybe because his presence in the real world would hurt Hyeran?). But the fact that he came out means that he thought he would be more of use outside than inside in prison? WHY? SO MANY QUESTIONS!!! lol
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miss h
February 22, 2018 at 8:05 AM
Yes, it seems like he was purposely keeping himself in prison, and I want to know WHY right now lol.
mary
February 21, 2018 at 11:23 PM
No, you're right. I'm sure he was in prison when it happened because he was watching his roommates gossip about the fact that Hyeran is the suspect/mistress of Kevin.
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odilettante
February 22, 2018 at 2:58 AM
Listen, I've watched every episode of Prison Playbook, which means I'm now obviously an expect in how prisons work. So I know that when you're in jail you can still Make Things Happen in the outside world. He might not have personally killed Kevin but after being in prison for 19 years, he probably has connections.
(Honestly you can make a case for every person on this show to have had a hand in killing Kevin and I'd be like, "sounds legit.")
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
February 28, 2018 at 10:44 AM
RIGHT?!?!?!
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18 spazmo
February 21, 2018 at 10:10 PM
all i can say is Kim Nam Joo/Hye Ran ROCKS those pantsuits. and Ji Jin Hee/Tae Wook ROCKS those soulful, pained looks...
; )
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19 astromantic
February 21, 2018 at 10:15 PM
I haven't watched episode 6 yet (I KNOW), BUT YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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20 owl 🦉 🫰
February 21, 2018 at 10:19 PM
Kevin turned out to be such a big problem! I mean, really, he couldn’t let the past go with his successful present, and messed up the future with his blackmail pics, ugh! Shoulda just left him on the golf course in the US. On second thought, the male higher ups are super problems too with their younger and prettier female face focus which forced Hye-ran to pursue the Kevin Lee interview in the first place.
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 11:25 PM
The network really pulled a jerk move when they let Hyeran score the exclusive interview but gave the anchor seat to Jiwon anyway by giving the "human docu" consolation to Hyeran.
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21 outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
February 21, 2018 at 10:25 PM
Yay!!!!!! for his thread 😍😍😍
I saw @hades suggestion on her fanwall and thought it was a swell idea. Didn't expect it to happen so fast!
I'm never one to post a lot on drama threads but I definitely
appreciate a place for those times I URGENTLY need to talk about it.
What a flawed heroine we have in Hye Ran. There are many things which I don't agree with her(fashion isn't one of them) but I can't help admiring some of the things she's accomplished. Kim Nam Joo is killing it and so is Ji Jin Hee.
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22 mrsdimple
February 21, 2018 at 10:26 PM
Yes!yes!yes! For this thread. It's an amazing piece of gem. I watched the first 6 episodes in just 2 days and now I'm a nervous wreck waiting for new episodes. The last time I was this invested with a show was during Suspicious Partner.
I loved Go Hye Ran. A flawed and layered character. Kim nam joo did great! I still remember Queen of Reversals (both season) all those years ago and she was so good!
And all hail Go Joon for his sexiness. That voice! Rawrr. The scenes that made my heart goes all fluttery was when KTW said, "now, rely on me hye ran." 😇😇😇
Now off to read other comments~
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mary
February 21, 2018 at 11:29 PM
Any time either Tae-wook or Hye-ran shows their vulnerable side to each other, my heart goes soft and then it gets a good beating because with this couple, one bites when the other one is weak, so the other lashes out in retaliation.
That hug in the parking lot after her on-air apology was such a cathartic moment. That was the first moment when they were on the same page. Sort of. Because Hye-ran was still hiding A LOT.
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natzillagorilla
February 22, 2018 at 9:47 AM
how did you manage to watch all 6 eps in 2 days?? I can only watch 1 episode at a time because I feel like the intensity is going to kill me lol
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mary
February 22, 2018 at 2:41 PM
How can you not press play on the next episode as soon as it's available? :O You have the self-restraint of Tae-wook...
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23 Giegie
February 21, 2018 at 10:33 PM
I wish you guys did this when JBL was airing. *cries*
But yaaaaay!!! I love Misty and Hye-ran! And puppy Tae-wook too. But why do I feel like Tae-wook is manipulating Hye-ran this time? Or am I just imagining it? I really feel bad for him every time Hye-ran lies to him.
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mary
February 22, 2018 at 8:25 AM
I'm sorry! Please think of yourselves as pioneers. You made it possible for future shows ♥
(Meanwhile, what actually happened in a meeting...)
"Gals, we gotta do something about the Misty love or they're gonna pull another JBL and have pantsuit parties in a random post!"
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Giegie
February 22, 2018 at 10:05 AM
Oh noes, no sorry needed, we totally understand you. Besides, I think we did well on our own. ;) And something good came out of it. Thank you for creating this space for us. ❤️
Pantsuit parties don’t sound that bad though. 😁
P.S. Yay Pioneers!!!
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KSKalways
March 1, 2018 at 10:53 AM
yes!!! I've been scrolling and skimming through comments for 20mins and finally!!! Yes!
I actually think that Tae-Wook is being all supportive of Hye-Ran because HE killed Kevin Lee that night! I mean, he followed them, right? He saw them making out, right? (As of ep6) Why is no one suspecting him??
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Giegie
March 1, 2018 at 11:44 AM
Yes to your first two questions! I just find his change of attitude towards HR sudden and suspicious?. I mean he knows HR is not being honest with him and he’s already suspicios of her and Kevin specially after Kevin returned the brooch and implied they slept together. And then he witnessed them making out...
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24 Giegie
February 21, 2018 at 10:36 PM
And I don’t think prison guy killed Kevin Lee because he was still in the prison when he was murdered.
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25 kiara
February 21, 2018 at 10:48 PM
Thank you for the return of the wee cap / squee cap /mini cap OT or whatever we used to call it lol.
@hades thanks for bringing it up!
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26 redoy21
February 21, 2018 at 11:05 PM
Hehe !! There is still time. I will still read the recaps of just between lovers if you decide to do it. Miss Moon Soo and Lee Gang Do :(
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27 Endo
February 21, 2018 at 11:38 PM
Finally! A thread that i can join.I seldom visits DB because you don't recap the shows that i watch. So i was really happy to see that you made a special page for discussions. Thank you.
I watched Misty because of JJH. He's one of my first korean oppa. LOL. This is also the first time i've heard of KNJ and i'm loving her.
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goldenaddiction
February 26, 2018 at 1:55 PM
It's my first time with both and I am in love with both hahaha
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28 swoosiederkins
February 22, 2018 at 12:09 AM
Yay for show threads! Also, just wanted to add, what I'd been missing the most from DB were the posts with the breezy convos between JB and GF - so I'm glad to see that mary & odilettante did that here! Yay!
(goes back into hibernation)
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mary
February 22, 2018 at 12:24 AM
Nuuuuu! Come back! *wears her best pantsuit*
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29 Blueyy
February 22, 2018 at 12:24 AM
Been a reader for yearss at Dramabeans and this drama finally made me make an account an comment! I'm new to all this as well!
First of all i just want to say thank you for making this page because Misty is love! Everything about it from the acting to the directing to the OST to the writing is spot on and I love it.
Regarding Hye Ran shes such a flawed character but you can't help but root for her. For once theres a woman whos passionate about her career and will do anything to stay here and thats awesome.
With Kevin Lee im happy hes dead because he was horrible but Im so curious about who killed him.
I was thinking Eun Joo and Ji Won might have been in it together but then the blackbox doesnt add up but now im leaning towards it was everyone - as in they all had an ifluence which ultimately led to his death
What do you guys think? And I hope my first comment at Dramabeans was good enough (Ive read loads over the years!)
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Betty
February 22, 2018 at 1:19 AM
welcome to DB commenting! :D
I agree on Kevin Lee, GOOD RIDDANCE!
Also, I'd be on board for a "women team up to kill that asshat" twist!
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Blueyy
February 22, 2018 at 1:56 AM
Awwh thank you!
Yes! He was such a disgusting human being that I'm not surprised if everyone wanted to kill him you know just to make sure he's fully dead :P
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
February 28, 2018 at 10:47 AM
Along this line, can someone help me understand what the policeman meant when he asked his assistant about EJ and HR being on the same side? Is he contemplating the idea that they worked together to murder Kevin? (And is that something worth considering? Like, maybe they did--then EJ sees the black box and realizes that HR wasnt entirely honest about her relationship with Kevin and feels betrayed? OR EJ sees the black box and realizes that HR has an alibi and she alone could be accused if things go wrong?)
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KSKalways
March 1, 2018 at 10:57 AM
In as much as I didn't like Kevin Lee (cheating arrogant husband), I honestly don't think he deserved to be killed.
So he cheated... s e v e r a l times... Eun Joo could have left. but no, she chose (underline: CHOSE) to stay and pay off his mistresses instead, judging that the pretense of her marriage and all its benefits + the many years she sacrificed in manual labour were aaaaall worth staying with that sleaze bag for. it's a conscious choice.
So why would he deserve to die?
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odilettante
February 22, 2018 at 3:02 AM
Welcome! I'm happy queen Hye-ran was able to coax you into joining us. ^_^
I'm still hoping for some Agatha Christie-style "Murder on the Orient Express" kind of murder where we find out everyone had a hand in killing Kevin.
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Blueyy
February 22, 2018 at 8:35 AM
Queen she is indeed! I absolutely love her!
Yesss thats exactly what I was thinking! That would be so awesome but Im not sure if theyll go there hopefully they do though!
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mary
February 22, 2018 at 8:29 AM
You're doing great with the comment thing! My first was with a different email from this (I'll never reveal it!) And I think I was asking why Han Chae-young and Jae Hee didn't have a reunion drama. Cos most shows in my country recycle the OTPs, and having only 1 project together was an alien concept to me. XD
Anyway, back to Misty! I'm starting to think EVERYONE wanted to kill Kevin Lee, but really, he's just a douche that got into an accident, and Ahn Nae-sang is stirring up shit for nothing. (By nothing, I mean our immense entertainment.)
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Blueyy
February 22, 2018 at 8:39 AM
LOOOL if only I could say the same about the shows here in England!
Do you know what I noticed by around ep 4 though - if it was any other show we would have been rooting for Ahn Nae-Sang to catch the criminal but here we're hoping he stops annoying Hye-ran! The reversal with this show makes me love it!
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Dl
February 22, 2018 at 11:42 AM
Oh, I feel it too. I'm liking Ahn Nae Sang's acting in the small but impactful roles that he plays. I usually root for the guy who is determined to solve a mystery that everyone is willing to let go but here, each time he pokes at Hy-ran, I think "Stop it. Leave her her alone! She's dealing with so much crap right now" He does it slyly too as in "Ok, I you have a point that it's ridiculous for us cops to question why a reporter met up with Kevin Li...so why did you meet up with him again?" Lol I can imagine Hye Ran blowing her top which doesn't help her case.
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mary
February 22, 2018 at 12:39 PM
Me too, me too. When they're both onscreen, I dunno who to side with. T___T And it's not like with Tae-wook where I can shout, "YOU NEED TO BAND TOGETHER!!!" Because Ahn Nae-sang may be on the opposite side if Hyeran is actually guilty.
odilettante
February 22, 2018 at 1:37 PM
I just like that he doesn't come off as an idiotic cop. I've probably watched too many detective shows, but I could see him essentially playing the lead in his own show with this mystery about the death of a famous golfer, and that evidence points to foul play but the only clue he has to go on right now is the brooch (and the fact that it's odd Hye-ran's black box video is missing). I like smart detectives. I mean, I don't like that he thinks Hye-ran did it, but I like that he's suspicious of everyone because let's be real, they are all suspicious.
Dl
February 22, 2018 at 1:58 PM
@Odilitantte I think that's why I like the characters he plays. Kdrama has a lot of idiot cops btw. But Ahn Nae Sang seems to be able to pick characters who are intelligent with a touch of quirky. In Wonderful Mama, he plays a hard working deaf dad, in Moonlight he plays a drunk scholar who does not pander to royalty, and in JBL he plays a grieving dad who goes against his nature and voluntarily locks himself down as a restaurant owner. They're either intelligent or heart warming characters. I think those are the only ones I've finished with him in them. So I do like how he plays this detective. I think I need to rewatch Misty since beanies are pointing out so many details and Tae Wook is just so puppy eyed. Hye Ran puts up such a cold shoulder to him...gahhh! I bet that happens in real life more often than we'd like. People get hard headed and it's hard to break down that front after a while.
mary
February 22, 2018 at 2:36 PM
@maestroca you should totally watch Awl! :) You're not averse to darker shows (not really dark, but not exactly butterflies and sunshine type of show) that explore societal issues and you like Ahn Nae-sang being the smart weird ajusshi.
I agree with you that the devolution of their marriage is such a common thing. :( Like, at first, they were perfectly honest with each other and what they both expect from the relationship. But the surprise baby and surprise abortion threw a spanner in the works. Tae-wook was shocked that Hye-ran would go that far, and Hye-ran was hurt that Tae-wook's promise to love her no matter what apparently had a limit. So they both decided to stop leaning on each other, even if from glimpses before Kevin even came back, there was definitely a longing from both sides. Whether romantic or just companionship, there was *something* there!
Dl
February 23, 2018 at 8:54 AM
@Mary What is AWL? I'm not averse to heavy. I won't do horror though.
mary
February 23, 2018 at 10:39 AM
It’s about a group of grocery store employees who try to fight back against oppressive management. It’s based on a webtoon. :) girlfriday described it better. Check it out and let me know if you ever start watching! http://www.dramabeans.com/2015/09/union-workers-band-together-in-jtbcs-webtoon-adaptation-awl/
john
February 24, 2018 at 7:20 AM
Ahn Nae Sang is a wonderful actor. If you want a treat, watch Yoo-Na’s Street, (Viki has it). It has a fantastic ensemble cast.
Here he plays a disgraced cop who was fired for bribery, who now runs a noraebang with his former bar girl wife. They are side characters in this story but he brings value to the overall show.
miss h
February 22, 2018 at 10:30 AM
I've had that thought too. I think Kevin Lee probably met with everyone that night, and they are all lying for various reasons, which of course, makes the whole incident look suspicious when there's a 50 percent chance it was just an accident.
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KSKalways
March 1, 2018 at 11:00 AM
oh truuuue!
I agree with the "Kevin Lee probably met with everyone that night" part !!
yes!
but Tae-Wook remains my #1 suspect.
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goldenaddiction
February 26, 2018 at 2:00 PM
That's exactly what I was thinking :D
I bet there were like 10 different plans of how to murder him and then...he just died before they could hatch their beautiful plans lol
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goldenaddiction
February 26, 2018 at 1:58 PM
Welcome to Beanie world!!
I think a girl's team would be fascinating--but maybe its a girl team pairing that we don't know/think about hmmm (his exs and wife...)
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30 my0
February 22, 2018 at 12:27 AM
can we get a poll feature for this? like one of those end of year award polls so we can vote on who we think the murderer is, and maybe see how it changes from ep to ep :)
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odilettante
February 22, 2018 at 3:05 AM
THE BUTLER DID IT!
Doesn't even matter that there's no butler yet. I will accept anyone as the murderer (except for Hye-ran, although I can't blame her if she did).
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zitaliam
February 22, 2018 at 3:01 PM
Haha... But there is one thing that stands out. Hye Ran's brooch that was found in Kevin's car. She was still wearing it when she went to meet Eun Joo after the car meet with Kevin. And she sent Eun Joo home where upon Kevin arrived shortly after.
So either Hye Ran and Kevin met again after that, where they have shuffle and....
Or Eun Joo has somehow managed to lift that brooch up during her meeting with Hye Ran.
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Giegie
February 22, 2018 at 3:16 PM
I was rewatching that scene earlier and you’re right, she’s still wearing her brooch when she met with Eun-joo. If she’s the one who took it from Hyeran then it probably happened when HR hugged her in the bathroom.
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mary
February 22, 2018 at 9:11 PM
If you go waaaaaaaay back in episode 1, right before the car crash, there were snippets of Kevin driving in his car and holding the brooch. I'm thinking they met up again after Kevin/Eunjoo fought.
Also, they haven't explained the scene when Hyeran comes home shaking and holding blue leather gloves?
zitaliam
February 23, 2018 at 12:47 AM
Oh yes @mary, that is another thing not yet explained. I think the probability that Hye-Ran and Kevin met again after Kevin/Run Joo fight is quite high but the certainty that she killed him is still not there yet. A lot of circumstantial evidences that can easily get an indictment but no solid proof that nail guilt absolutely. Daebak!
Giegie
February 23, 2018 at 2:16 AM
@mary I rewatched the scene when HR comes home shaking and found out a very important detail, the timeline. She drops off Eun-joo at a bit past 1 am (shown in the cctv) and she comes home at 1:10 am (shown in her watch, I had to use a magnifier to see the time lol). Kevin on the other hand comes home 10 minutes after EU came home, they fight and he goes out 20-30 minutes later, after he receives a blocked call. It’s either she and Eunjoo fought during their ride home and EU took the brooch without HR knowing or she met with Kevin after which is very unlikely given the time. And I think Eunjoo did not believe Hyeran when she told him about Kevin blackmailing her because when they fought she asked him how he could do it (sleep) with Hyeran, her friend. She wouldn’t asked that if she really believed Hyeran.
another woodalchi nicole recruit
February 28, 2018 at 10:48 AM
My money is on Eun-joo right now (either alone or with accomplices).
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31 korfan
February 22, 2018 at 12:57 AM
OMG! I just logged in and I see the Misty Open Thread! Yes!!!
A big Thank You to the DB Team, @mary, @odilettante.
Certainly appreciated because this is a drama that's turned into a must-watch show.
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32 Betty
February 22, 2018 at 1:17 AM
aaaAAAYYYYY all my dreams have come true!
or at least one of them, I'm so into this show!
Go Hye Ran is serious GOALS and it's so rare to get to see a female character like her! Ambitious! Scheming! Manipulative! But she's still very human and with hints of a softer side and I just. Ugh. Love her so much. Also she's HOT!
Can't wait for Tae Wook and Hye Ran to reunite and become the ULTIME POWER COUPLE that will kill everyone with ther POWER WALK OF HOTNESS good lord when they were at that party together and he was like "it's okay we can ignore them too" and they SHARED A LOOK and just yes I am ON BOARD
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mary
February 22, 2018 at 8:30 AM
Seriously, if they didn't have a falling out years ago, they'd be ruling SK by now.
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zitaliam
February 22, 2018 at 2:55 PM
That's right. Tae Wook has what it takes to play politics and tilt power but chose not to until this point. With his predigree background and stellar law studies, he had proven that he is not where he is by mere connection.
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KSKalways
March 1, 2018 at 11:04 AM
that power walk into the Law Gala was e v e r y t h i n g !
(but for some reason, I found Hye Ran's dress too short for the occasion... I'm weird...)
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33 mrchuckles
February 22, 2018 at 1:19 AM
The most interesting character for me now is Tae Wook. For the first five episodes, he has been the long-suffering, man of integrity, but always in the Charlie Brown mold. But now that we see him kick into action to protect Hye Ran, he is turning into a smoldering badass. I can't wait to see him and his wife go full awesome power couple mode.
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Dl
February 22, 2018 at 11:54 AM
I hope future episodes don't kill this development. I want to see this power couple strike because deep inside they want justice. His work shows it and her words say it. She's already a badass and he can be a badass to put down all the normalized -isms too.
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34 Sara
February 22, 2018 at 1:27 AM
OMG!! Thank you!!! A Misty thread!!! I’m on ep 4 so far and boy!!! Is this good!!!!! Main leads are amazing!!!
I was expecting an over 19 rated drama to see a more realistic portrayal of characters and OMG they are amazing!!
This is 100% excellent TV experience. Will make sure to catch up this weekend to be able to comment with you beanies!!
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35 Mjfan
February 22, 2018 at 1:40 AM
Am I the only one who doesn't find Kim nam joo pretty at all?
Besides I saw her in drama long time ago and she was very different than now
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36 hallyumint
February 22, 2018 at 2:03 AM
You know i just watched Netflix Altered Carbon and all that excessive violence and nudity did nothing for me but watching the 19 + rated episodes turned me on. You know what Im saying ! I was overjoyed finally an adult drama without the sleaze.
Goes to show you dont need skin show to attract viewers you need world building ,a hint of suggestiveness ,sexual tension ,smouldering gazes and a bit of playfulness.
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Kurama
February 22, 2018 at 6:12 AM
I don't think we can compare the both tv series. They're really different. Altetered Carbon is a science fiction story in the future with AI, robots, etc. The violence and the nudity are trivialized on purpose.
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hallyumint
February 22, 2018 at 11:10 AM
You’re missing the point completely i wasn’t comparing a science fiction show with a mystery show. I was talking about what turned me on personally. And American shows really could learn to tone down the nudity part and make it more tasteful. Just my opinion !
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Kurama
February 22, 2018 at 12:07 PM
I understood but I think you didn't choose the good example for that. In Altered Carbon, the nudity had a purpose when in the season 2 of GoT or Spartacus, they added too much of it for authencity I guess but it was meaningless.
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hallyumint
February 28, 2018 at 12:20 AM
Cool
37 PakalanaPikake
February 22, 2018 at 2:26 AM
Thank you, Odilettante and Mary!
I love the idea of having a designated alternative to randomly posting in Open Thread and What We're Watching. It's a stroke of geeenius. ;-)
I'm not watching MISTY, but I've started SHOULD WE KISS FIRST, and would love to have a discussion thread for it if it's not being recapped. All aboard, Kim Sun-ah and Kam Woo-sung watchers!
I also plan to watch Shin Dong-wook in LIVE (fangirls, unite!) and Yoon Si-yoon in GRAND PRINCE. Please give us forums for those shows, too. Pretty please?
* sends finger hearts *
I wasn't around DB when these forums existed in the past. It's a marvelous idea. Perhaps one way to handle it (retroactively or otherwise) would be to also have a designated no-holds-barred spoiler thread from the start, i.e., spoiler-free for the weekly episodes (labeled 1-2 or 1-4, through 15-16 or 29-32, etc., plus SPOILERS to serve as a virtual sound-proof rumpus room). Don't click on the link if you don't want to know and still want to be surprised. -- But for Beanies who can't stand the suspense of watching without knowing the outcome in advance, it could be a godsend. [I'm not one of them.] ;-)
If there's a way to initiate a retroactive discussion forum for MONEY FLOWER, I think the interest would be there.
Thanks again, DramaBeans, for giving us a virtual Kdrama playground. These new monkey bars are dandy! ;-)
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odilettante
February 22, 2018 at 3:38 AM
People need to seriously stop tempting me with the Should We Kiss First requests.
Sincerely,
a Kim Sun-ah fan 4lyfe
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38 namedx
February 22, 2018 at 2:52 AM
Ooooh, now this is a welcome announcement!! Right, who's up for another marathon of Just Between Lovers and Prison Playbook!?
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39 my0
February 22, 2018 at 3:19 AM
what do you guys think will happen in ep7? it seems as if Eun Joo was sharing w Taewook about Hyeran's past, including the assault she experienced (where she killed someone by accident?)....? Perhaps the music that Eunjoo lied was Hyeran's favourite had something to do with the assault. And perhaps that's why Hyeran insists they're not close friends - Eunjoo knows about her assault
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CS
February 22, 2018 at 7:38 PM
Yeah, I have a suspicion that Eun Joo knows too much about that situation or was involved from high school days and that's why Hyeran cut ties with her.
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40 missowlhead
February 22, 2018 at 3:29 AM
Thank you, Mary and Odiletante, for providing this forum for crazy hypotheses (they *all* killed Kevin), Hye Ran fan-girling, and frock watching! I marathoned the first 6 episodes over the three day weekend, and I'm fairly hooked.
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41 V
February 22, 2018 at 3:42 AM
I think the tittle just means that everything isn't clear, like a Mist. Thank you for bringing back the Weecaps!
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goldenaddiction
February 26, 2018 at 2:06 PM
That's exactly what I was thinking :D
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42 Zei
February 22, 2018 at 4:05 AM
Really hoping its not tae wook who killed kevin lee. Like some kind of unfaithful movie... please dont let hyeran and tar wook suffer in the end..writerrrssss
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mary
February 22, 2018 at 6:46 AM
True. He can't go to prison just as the two of them are reuniting! T______T
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KSKalways
March 1, 2018 at 11:06 AM
I'm soooo convinced that it's Tae Wook who killed Kevin Lee !
from the moment this man seemed to have a change of heart and decided to support his manipulative wife, I've just had a feeeeeling that it's him!
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43 Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
February 22, 2018 at 4:19 AM
Thank you SOOO much for making this possible DB!
I don't have much to say except that I have the same Important Question as Odilettante... re: Rated 19 episode hihihihihihi.
And also, I like that the mystery in this show (for me at least) is as much about who killed Kevin Lee, as much as it is about whether Hye-ran really loves Tae-wook.
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44 wakimary
February 22, 2018 at 4:20 AM
thank you DB for granting one of our wishes. And I love this format,although I sometimes feel the need to butt in on @mary & @odilettante's conversation.
Totally agreed on these two things:
*who didn't want to kill Kevin Lee?
*ride-or-die for Hye-ran!
I'm so glad I listened to the Beanies' reco when I asked for one few weeks ago.
And Mary, I guess I couldn't keep up with the "4-episode" mini binge I thought of doing for Misty even without your Twitter goodies 😉 to lure me in.
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45 Irochka
February 22, 2018 at 5:38 AM
My money right now is on Han Ji-won being the killer. Hye-ran has already talked about how Ji-won was overly emotional and wasn't desperate enough for the anchor position. Hye-ran pretty much crushed Ji-won completely and then had her sent away. I think Ji-won is at a point where she wants to destroy Hye-ran completely, just like Hye-ran did to her. She's a smart girl who knows how the media works - and that just by framing Hye-ran for the murder she could get what she wants. I suspect that Ji-won met up with Kevin after he ran out on Eun-joo - he need "comfort" and she wanted to talk about how Eun-joo confronted her. I think that Kevin might have made it also clear to Ji-won that Eun-joo to him is just a fling but it's Hye-ran who he really wants which would have hurt her ego even more. Ji-won got what she wanted - she has returned to work and Hye-ran's reputation is in danger of going up in flames. I can also see a scene between Ji-won and Hye-ran where she says something like "Sunbae, you said I wasn't desperate enough for the position so I did what I had to do - do I seem desperate enough to you now?"
That or it really was an accident...
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spicykimchi
February 22, 2018 at 7:09 AM
I love your theory! Though I'm really going to be pissed off if the murder turned out to be an accident. I mean REALLY show, you're going to have us go out of our minds with speculation and character analysis to tell us it was a friggin accident?
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46 spaceystacey
February 22, 2018 at 6:03 AM
This idea is golden and so is this show.
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47 Kermit24
February 22, 2018 at 6:07 AM
I wonder if Misty is reference to Clint Eastwood movie, play Misty for me and there is stalker on the loose?
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48 Lixie
February 22, 2018 at 6:10 AM
Congratulations! We have been talking about a place to discuss shows that are popular but don't get recaps here for a long time, so it's a great feature!
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49 PYC
February 22, 2018 at 6:18 AM
Bravo, Mary and odilettante!!
Lately, it's been very disheartening to note only romcom recaps here. Glad to see quality dramas in other genres being picked up through this. You go gals.
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50 bunny
February 22, 2018 at 6:27 AM
I thought it was titled Misty because it is unclear whether she kills him (like trying to see through mist)
Btw, great thread. If I didnt stumble on this thread, I wouldnt be thinking of watching Misty. Thanks, Beanies! Off to watch it now!
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