Heart to Heart: Episode 8
by LollyPip
Ah love, it’s so confusing and painful. And weird. Especially when the guy you like insists there’s a shelf life to your relationship, and the guy you’re trying to break up with digs in his heels and refuses to go anywhere. I suppose our heroine could have worse problems than to have two handsome, eligible men competing for her attention? Good thing she’s a quick study at life, because she’s going to need those skills, dealing with these knuckleheads.
EPISODE 8 RECAP
Hong-do runs giddily through the street, carrying a package and smiling. Meanwhile, ex-girlfriend Yeon-woo faces Yi-seok with tears running down her face, and his own face mirrors her distress. Hong-do arrives at the hospital just in time to see Yi-seok take Yeon-woo in his arms and hold her close.
Hong-do crumples to the ground, her smile disappearing as she takes in the cozy scene. But a pair of strong arms help her to her feet, and with a look of disgust and disappointment in Yi-seok’s direction, Doo-soo leads Hong-do away.
Back in the present, Yi-seok gets Hong-do some medicine (after their hug and kiss) while she waits in his car. Yi-seok wonders where he’s seen Hong-do’s symptoms before, then gets excited as he asks the pharmacist if it’s not the same symptoms as lovesickness. HA, he’s suddenly so happy that she’s sick.
Hong-do calls Doo-soo and they make awkward small talk. Doo-soo picks up that Hong-do is nervous about something, and she says she has something to tell him. Doo-soo hears Yi-seok speaking in the background, but he doesn’t call attention to it — though he gets in the car with Detective Yang and asks if he knows any old, grandmotherly therapists, hee.
Yi-seok teases Hong-do that she’s a two-timer now, and takes her to eat instead of getting the medicine. She picks up on his solicitousness, and tells him she only wanted a hug, not to date or sleep with him. They both insist there’s absolutely nothing they like about the other, and Yi-seok says Hong-do’s a bad kisser because she has no experience, and she’s all, “I can tell if you’re a bad kisser.” Ha, I love how she just gives it right back to him.
But their bravado doesn’t last long, and Yi-seok says seriously that he didn’t want to stop hugging her once he started — and interestingly, Hong-do’s blush actually disappears when he says it. He says that for just a moment he thought she was his woman, but moans that he can’t figure out why he likes her. Hong-do just grumbles, “That’s what I’m saying.” Cute.
Yi-seok drives Hong-do home, and confiscates her helmet until the next day. He shows her a picture of the Mona Lisa, asking what she’d say if this was her friend saying she couldn’t go out because she has no eyebrows. HAHA. He tries with Napoleon and his short legs next, but this sends Hong-do off on a rant, and he snaps a picture of her before she can object.
Yi-seok gives Hong-do homework — to list ten strong points about herself in her journal — but she whines that she doesn’t have any. He laughs at his picture of her, and she screeches and tries to grab his phone, but they’re both laughing and having fun. Yi-seok says that her eyes are one of the strong points (so sweet) and tells her to find the other nine.
Yi-seok points out that nobody is without fault, that we each just have different ones, so Hong-do is the same as everyone else. She asks what his faults are, and he jokes that she listed all of them earlier, and tells her to go in. She lunges at him one last time trying for his phone, leaving him laughing as she gets out of the car. I love these two when they’re silly.
Hong-do gets halfway across the stepping-stones to her door before she hears Yi-seok calling behind her. She waits, and he hops across the stones to fold her into another big hug. They stand there smiling for long minutes, and Yi-seok says he’ll be seeing her often now that he’s gone crazy.
He honestly tells her she’ll be hurt when he comes back to his senses, and warns that her feelings could be the misplaced affection that patients often feel for their doctors. But he says he wants to see this through, and he embraces her one last time (who knew he’d turn out to be such a huggy bear?) and gently tells her to straighten things out with Doo-soo. Hong-do just smiles through all this, and nods her agreement.
It’s so cute how they both stop at the same time to turn around and get one last look, and they wave like kids reluctant to leave each other. Hong-do goes inside to hug herself some more, and revel in the feeling of liking someone who likes her back. Yi-seok drives home wondering over how much he feels like a teenage boy, and even squeals his happiness.
Hong-do works on her list the next morning, completely unable to think of a single good quality of hers and wondering how not one, but two guys could like her. She calls Yi-seok, waking him, to complain that she can’t leave the house without her helmet. He tells her she’d better come to work or else, and hangs up on her. Sheesh, Huggy Bear is more like Grumpy Bear in the mornings.
But Hong-do creeps out with a bare head, and wraps the scarf from Doo-soo around her entire face as a helmet substitute. She slowly inches down the alley, and when she gets to the street she makes a break for it, running right past Yi-seok who’d been waiting for her.
He follows her at a short distance, and Hong-do does pretty well until she’s knocked down and can’t get her bearings because that giant scarf blocks her eyes. She crouches on the sidewalk and answers a call from Yi-seok, not knowing he’s actually watching her from nearby, and he dangles rewards like holding his hand and movie dates as bait to urge her to keep moving.
Se-ro ambushes Doo-soo outside the station and asks a bunch of odd questions about his health and habits, saying that she needs data before she decides on her feelings, and the confused look on Doo-soo’s face says it all. She actually hands him a list of questions to answer as if she’s interviewing for an employee, and tells him she’ll answer his questions when he finishes that. I love how Doo-soo is just all, “Okay, you do that then.”
Yi-seok waits in his car at the hospital to ambush Hong-do when she arrives, fussing at her wearing a scarf from another man as if he hadn’t seen it already. She promises to return it to Doo-soo today, and squeaks with pride that she walked all the way here without her helmet.
They make a house call to Eun-ho’s home, and both twins are in their room looking upset, but it’s Eun-ho they’re here to see. She’s gone suddenly blind, and the hospital says it’s a psychological issue, so her mom called in Yi-seok.
He asks Eun-ho about her Olympiad that was supposed to be the day before, and her mother says she was supposed to go with her but at the last minute, Eun-ho said she didn’t want her there. Yi-seok calls her immature for raising a fuss about her mother not coming, when she’d been the one who said she didn’t want her.
Eun-ho just says that ever since her twin Jin-ho started playing the violin, their mother always favored her. It had rained yesterday, so their mother took Jin-ho to school instead of going to Eun-ho’s event, so that the violin wouldn’t get wet.
Her voice gets angrier as she cries that just once, Jin-ho could have taken a taxi and Mom could have given Eun-ho her attention. Clearly this goes deep, because Eun-ho says that their mother did the same thing once on a trip to Jeju Island. The girls had nearly drowned, and even though Eun-ho was closer, Mom had saved Jin-ho first.
Yi-seok talks with Mom privately, and to give her credit, she’s devastated that Eun-ho remembers those painful events. Yi-seok heads back to talk to Eun-ho but Hong-do stops him, and chides him for speaking to her harshly. She reminds him that he always gets angry when Eun-ho is around, and asks if she and Jin-ho remind him of himself and his brother. Ouch.
Yi-seok lashes out at Hong-do for turning this on him, but she points out that he seems to be taking this all very personally. He tells her angrily to keep out of his work, but she’s not intimidated and says she’ll be watching how he treats Eun-ho.
Yi-seok tells Eun-ho that memory is tricky and can often twist to what one wants to believe. He reveals that he also had an older twin who excelled more than he did, but that his brother died in a fire when they were children. He says he’s always wondered, what if the better brother had lived, and whether his family would have been happier. He says that he hopes Eun-ho doesn’t turn out like him.
Eun-ho tells him that they’d been on a boat, and she and Jin-ho had fought over a fishing pole and fell in the water. She says she remembers it very clearly, and that she’d been closer to the boat. Yi-seok guides her to remember that Eun-ho had been holding a float, but Jin-ho had lost consciousness. Their mother had saved Jin-ho first, not because she loved her more, but because Eun-ho had been stronger.
Yi-seok calls Dr. Uhm about his mother as they drive back to the hospital, and Mom seems to be feeling better after her suicide attempt. Hong-do asks about his mother, but Yi-seok just reminds her what he said about everyone having faults, and gently but firmly refuses to say more.
He asks if she’s settled things with Doo-soo, and he gets flustered when she says she’s still thinking (“Of what, how to two-time better?” HA). She admits that rejecting Doo-soo will be difficult, and Yi-seok tells her that he usually likes someone for three months, so she should just tell Doo-soo to wait three months. Famous last words, from a man who’s already in love and just doesn’t know it yet.
Doo-soo calls Hong-do while she and Yi-seok are at the hospital, and Yi-seok hovers annoyingly while she tries to talk to him (and Doo-soo extends a friendly offer to come whack him in the back of the head for her). Hong-do agrees to meet Doo-soo for dinner after work, and Yi-seok goes to talk to Dr. Uhm.
Dr. Uhm says that his mother is much better, and is even agreeing to treatment, and Yi-seok tells her about how he took Eun-ho’s case a little too personally. He’s worried that he didn’t realize it himself, but admits that when Eun-ho was honest, he felt better himself. Conversation turns to Hong-do, and Yi-seok says he’s worried he’ll get caught (as in, fall for her), which hilariously just tickles Dr. Uhm pink.
Hong-do waits for Doo-soo outside his apartment, and it’s impressive how she launches right into her apology without letting her nerves get to her. She explains that she’s here to reject his heart — even though she was thankful and happy at first, her feelings have changed. She takes all the blame, saying that “that person” makes her heart go crazy, and apologizes again.
Doo-soo knows that “that person” is Yi-seok, but he laughs it off and says her heart is just confused and she doesn’t really like him. Are we telling her how she feels, now? Hong-do ignores this and says that she’s thankful to Doo-soo for being her motivation to come out like this, but that she wants to follow her heart.
Doo-soo finally hears her and accepts her rejection, and asks if they can talk again tomorrow. He sends Hong-do home, and only then notices the scarf she left by his door. He goes inside and sits in the dark, shocked.
The next morning when Hong-do heads to work at the Go home, Doo-soo is waiting for her outside. He gives her scarf back, saying it’s hers in return for all the knitted gifts she gave him. He calls himself a fool, for not knowing he liked her and for assuming he was the only one she could care about, and for taking that for granted.
Doo-soo says that, just as Hong-do has decided to like Yi-seok no matter how he feels, he’s decided to like her the same way. He says that he understands that the world is new to her and she wants to experience lots of things, and he urges her to follow her heart. He says that he, too, will follow his heart, and that he’s willing to wait for her like she waited for him.
Chairman Go calls the housekeeper to his room, where he’s apparently laid his entire wardrobe out looking for a sweater, fixated on trying to look younger. She reminds him that he told her to throw it away, and finds him something else to wear. Geez, this lady is awfully handsy with her boss, I’m just sayin’. She even tries to touch his hair, complimenting him on it when he whines that it’s nearly completely white.
Doo-soo gives Hong-do a ride to work, shocked that she works at Yi-seok’s family home while in disguise. She says she didn’t know until after she’d taken the job, but he slaps on a smile and sends her in. This is so awkward.
Out for a jog, Se-ro is thrilled to see Doo-soo outside her house, and she’s surprised to learn that he knows her brother. She asks if he’s here to answer her questions, but he’s in no mood, and tells her he already likes someone and shoos her away like an annoying little kid.
While helping the chairman set up an online account, Hong-do compliments him on his cologne which gets him all flustered. Aw, he really is crushing on her! She says he looks handsome, sparking more complaints about his white, thinning hair, so she offers to dye it. He insists he doesn’t do that sort of thing, but pretty soon he’s letting her color his hair — but only because she nagged, you know.
The housekeeper walks in on this and freaks out, and the chairman’s eyeroll at her wailing is priceless. He sends her away to make lunch and invites Hong-do on a walk, impressed with her handiwork.
Yi-seok goes shopping for a new helmet for Hong-do, using the photo he snapped to see how each helmet would look on her. Meanwhile Doo-soo chases a suspect who pulls a knife on him, and he manages to catch the guy but gets a nasty cut on the back of his hand.
Yi-seok texts Hong-do to come outside, where he presents her with a pretty new white helmet. She’s so ridiculously excited to see him, it’s adorable. She puts the new helmet on right away but is a bit surprised that it has no visor to hide behind. Baby steps.
That evening, Dr. Uhm notices that Yi-seok’s office light is still on, and catches him studying late. She’s gobsmacked to find him actually working, and she asks after Hong-do. He admits this is a special case, and that she seems to be improving quickly, so Dr. Uhm offers him the use of some of her reference books.
He takes a call from Hong-do, and teases her for getting him excited when she says she was in the shower. He tells her he’s pulling an all-nighter studying her condition, and she offers to pack some food for him. They flirt a bit about her red face, with Yi-seok saying red is a stop sign, but Hong-do is feeling adventurous and says that red reminds her of sexy things. He says he misses her and hangs up, and Hong-do squees like a little girl.
Doo-soo heads to the hospital, having texted Yi-seok that he wants to talk to him. At the same time, Hong-do runs to the hospital with some food she packed for Yi-seok’s all-nighter, excited to see him. She tiptoes to his office intending to surprise him, but she gets the surprise instead as she sees him there with his ex, Yeon-woo, hugging her close.
Hong-do’s knees give out and she sits, too hurt to do anything but watch while Yi-seok holds Yeon-woo. Doo-soo arrives and finds her there, and sees the same thing she’s seeing. Yi-seok looks over to see Doo-soo there with an accusatory look on his face, but he doesn’t notice Hong-do until Doo-soo helps her up and leads her away.
COMMENTS
While I’m sure that we’ll find out that Yeon-woo showed up unannounced, and that this hug was nothing more than Yi-seok comforting her, I can see how Hong-do would jump to the worst possible conclusion. Aside from the fact that Yi-seok is a known player and has admitted that he’s fickle and his feelings are short-lived, she has very little experience with people or how to handle romantic conflict. She’s never been in a relationship before, and her emotions are very close to the surface, and that makes them even easier to bruise.
I do appreciate Yi-seok’s honesty in this episode, and that he genuinely thinks his interest has a time limit and is open about that from the beginning. And I can see why Hong-do would choose to be with him anyway, because she’s just now experiencing real feelings of love, and she wants to explore what that means to be with someone who loves you back. I love how both Yi-seok and Hong-do throw themselves wholeheartedly into this relationship, whatever it may be and wherever it takes them, because they’re so great together when they’re just having fun and being silly. And let’s face it, they’re great together when they’re fighting and angry, too.
Again I find myself wanting to like Doo-soo but being concerned about some of the things he says. Maybe it’s because physically, he’s an intimidating man, but when he tells Hong-do that she doesn’t really like Yi-seok, and that he’s going to like her and do whatever he wants regardless of her feelings about it, it worries me. I want to think he’s just doing the “I’m just happy to love you from afar” thing, but somehow it comes across, from him, as having a bit of a threat behind the words. Especially since he announced his intentions by throwing her own words regarding Yi-seok back in her face. Again, maybe I’m reading into it because of his physicality and because he’s a cop, but I can’t help but bristle a bit when Doo-soo refuses to honor Hong-do’s wishes. It seems to me that the best way to show a lady you care about her is to, I dunno, respect her words? And I don’t think he’s truly taking her seriously, because he says he’ll just wait until she experiences the world and comes back to him. To me, that came across as condescending and dismissive, as if she couldn’t possibly really want to expand her horizons for herself. Regardless of what he says, I almost feel like he’s starting to resent her newfound courage, because it means he’s not the center of her universe anymore, and he’s just waiting for her to become fearful again so he can have her.
But I do appreciate everyone’s honesty, and the fact that nobody is hiding anything or misleading anyone. One of the strengths of this show is that everyone lays their intentions right out on the table. Even Hong-do, when it came down to it, was able to use her words and make her wishes perfectly clear to Doo-soo. She’s definitely learning to take charge of her life, and I don’t think that’s all Yi-seok’s doing. He’s helping her by pushing her out of her comfort zone, but it wouldn’t work if she didn’t have the strength all on her own, and that’s not something anyone else can teach her.
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Tags: Choi Kang-hee, Chun Jung-myung, featured, Heart to Heart
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1 CruxBBQ
February 3, 2015 at 2:05 PM
Thank you very much Lollypop!
Now the wait begins.
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Tinacu
February 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM
Ugh.......and such a long wait it is......
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CruxBBQ
February 3, 2015 at 2:53 PM
2 more days!!
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2 james94131
February 3, 2015 at 2:25 PM
I can't get past Yi-seok's professional obligations towards Hong-do. If this was in California, Yi-seok would not only be guilty of professional malpractice for being in a relationship with a patient, Yi-seok would also be well on his way to jail for criminal misconduct. Yes, California takes doctor-patient misconduct very seriously. Does Korea not have similar laws and ethical obligations?
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camry
February 3, 2015 at 2:36 PM
i know what u mean but I feel like their doctor-patient relationship is more of a means to get cutesy things into the show than actually heal hong-do. plus, it's not like their therapy sessions are actually in-writing or hong-do payed for anything. i think of it more as help from a close person than a doctor healing a patient
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bbstl 🧹
February 3, 2015 at 2:41 PM
I know, I know that you're right. I know the writer intends that we not view them as "really" patient and doctor. I know I should be upset that once again a drama is giving Korea (a country that reportedly is somewhat resistant to mental health treatment) the idea that psychiatrists are this unprofessional. Like in IOIL. Like in HMKM. But I have to say ... I just don't care. They are so entertaining and I love them and their world. I just have to let love win over ethics this time. It's hilarious to me that a physician would be getting drugs at a pharmacy when he realizes the illness is lovesickness. BTW, if he finds a good treatment for lovesickness he better stock up, there will probably be multiple parties needing it before this drama ends (poor Grandpa! His heart is gonna get broken:).
Lollypip, thanks again for a great recap! "knuckleheads" made me laugh and laugh.
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CruxBBQ
February 3, 2015 at 2:47 PM
I wonder if you understand that this is not California, that this is a Kdrama meaning a media this is made to supersede certain aspects of real life to tell a story. An all countries that doctor to patient misconduct seriously but that does not mean that it does not happen. So its a moot point to keep bringing it up over and over and over and over again like its going to somehow change how the drama is currently portraying their relationship. Especially because at some point HD will stop being his patient.
So this has NOTHING to do with real life korea and for you to question if their are laws or ethical obligations in place in real life is rude. Since if you did research you would find that those ethical boundaries are in place in all doctor to patient code's the world over. An to further to the point , there have been countless amounts of kdrama that have go FAR pass whats being portrayed in this drama (Kill me, Heal me is one of them) yet i see a crap ton of praise and very little complaint about how that story is handling its themes and medical aspects.
But i continue to see people comment on something that bothers them so much to be brought up and yet they are still watching this drama and i don't get it. Also some act like they have any idea about the profession itself to make a general conclusion on how, a situation like this might or might not happen.
Its not that big of a deal, and sooner or later the drama will tackle it at some point in a small way. But that aspect is not the vocal point of this story and further more their "Doctor patient relationships" is not of the norm in any sense and is not in the realm of really pointing out their position.
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Because of Reasons
February 3, 2015 at 7:47 PM
I have to agree that I'm getting kind of tired of these same kind of comments popping up over and over and over again. Heart to Heart is not a documentary about mental health professionals in South Korea. It's a lighthearted kdrama romcom, and they've probably touched on the ethics of doctor-patient dating as seriously as they ever intend to (i.e. very lightly in passing). Just try to take it in stride and suspend disbelief for a couple of hours each week, or stop watching, or something...
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confusedturtle
February 4, 2015 at 12:06 AM
I don't see what's wrong with asking questions or expressing doubt about the setup of the show. I think there are arguments either way- Like in my opinion, they never really had a patient-doctor relationship, and because there personal interaction came first, where he went wrong was agreeing to treat her in the first place. That said, I don't think i'ts productive to get annoyed when others are confused or doubt the setup. I think some of these problems might actually come up in the show, in fact it seems pretty likely.
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Because of Reasons
February 4, 2015 at 4:30 AM
Productive? Ha, if I were that concerned about productivity I probably wouldn't be spending so much of my time reading Dramabeans in the first place. :-)
As I alluded to in my comment, the show has already touched on the ethics of the doctor-patient relationship Yi Seok has with Hong Do, very lightly and in passing (when his mentor scolded him about in in, I think, episode 5), and that seems to be the way they intend to address it. We'll see if they touch on it more later.
Anyway, the show is 8 episodes into its run; it's almost halfway finished. Surely by now people could have in some way come to terms with the premise, which was established a while back, and decided to either take it or leave it?
confusedturtle
February 4, 2015 at 10:19 PM
If the whole point of a drama was to simply take it or leave it, why would sites like dramabeans even be popular?
Because of Reasons
February 5, 2015 at 8:39 AM
I didn't say the point of a drama was to take it or leave it.
I think that with any piece of fictional work, there is an underlying premise in which the story is grounded, and depending on the premise there are varying levels of suspension of disbelief required. So you either take the premise on its terms as it relates to the world that exists within the drama, or you leave it. To take an example from another show I'm watching these days, it's kind of like people repeatedly commenting on Sweden Laundry to say, "Well, but you know, it's really extremely unlikely that a young woman would be able to have telepathic insight into the lives of the customers at her laundry by just touching their clothes." Or people commenting on Glee to say, "Actually in real life, it's rare that people break out into spontaneous but perfectly choreographed song and dance like that." Well, yeah, of course it is, but since that seems to be the premise of the show, you take it (the premise, not the show) or you leave it.
tt
February 5, 2015 at 12:45 AM
Can't agree with you more!
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kittentales
February 3, 2015 at 2:49 PM
I agree that this would be definitely an issue in the real world, and it intensely bothered me for the first few episodes. However, considering she does not pay for his services and she now has a job as his secretary/assistant, I feel like it shouldn't be characterized as a formal doctor-patient relationship (if only for my peace of mind).
I also hesitate to say he is "treating" her in the strict sense of the word because they mostly seem to be talking and doing things that close friends may do (even the journal could be likened to her writing on livejournal or something and him reading and commenting on it). He is not prescribing any medication and there is no formal schedule to their talks. I see his referencing his profession during their banter more as flirtatious playfulness (like if a boss and employee were dating, and the boss said the employee would have to work overtime with a wink).
I would find it much more disturbing if there was more of a power imbalance between the two, but it doesn't appear she sees him as a doctor with all the authority and gravitas the title brings. (In other words, he can't abuse his authority due to the fact she doesn't see him having any authority.) She did find him via a self-help book so I think she sees him more as a life-coach rather than a medical professional.
(I will admit that if this was real life, he could definitely be sued and probably be convicted for medical malpractice.)
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CruxBBQ
February 3, 2015 at 2:55 PM
"I will admit that if this was real life, he could definitely be sued and probably be convicted for medical malpractice."
He would have been convicted long before this.
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kittentales
February 3, 2015 at 3:09 PM
Hahaha, true! I have no idea how his license was not revoked for being drunk during an appointment - his mentor must have some incredible influence.
To add to my earlier relationship talk: His sharing of personal information (his twin brother and family issues) is also indicative of how their relationship is not professional, but a close friendship. I cannot imagine any doctors telling their patients about their own personal lives in such a manner.
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CruxBBQ
February 3, 2015 at 3:15 PM
Well he is from a wealth family and his mentor is very close to his family it seems. So it would be fair to say that they are almost like family and i think some part of his mentor see him as a brother or son.
Plus she also knows that without his career that he would be on a down ward spiral big time and she also knows hes good at what he does. So I'm sure she had to pull a few strings.
Z
February 4, 2015 at 9:30 AM
But they use the word "treatment" for Hong Do's and Yi Seok's interactions all the time. They call her journal a "Treatment Journal" (unless the subs are inaccurate; that's highly possible). So, if the characters themselves consider it treatment, then it's not so far-fetched for us the, viewers, to comment about the appropriateness of their relationship.
Truthfully, I just want to see them define some boundaries between when it's Treatment Time and when it's Happy Lovebirds Time. That just makes sense in the context of the setup without being bogged down with pesky issues like Reality and Medical Ethics. Who needs any of that garbage in our drama?
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kittentales
February 4, 2015 at 10:12 AM
That's a really good point - I didn't realize that is why they called the journal. I would definitely welcome some boundaries, but unfortunately the path this drama chose to take is to pretty much disregard any professional ethics, which is why I am trying to reason out a way to make this relationship more palatable to me (especially since I do really like this drama).
In the end, the way I come to terms with it, is that the reason there is boundary between patients and doctors is in order for the doctor not to abuse his authority by taking advantage of his position of power over the patient. Since Hong-do pursued this relationship and even "used" him, this abuse of his position seems minimal. I realize this is a completely different scenario, but if a gynecologist started to date one of his patients, we wouldn't be so concerned with the ethics of the situation.
Of course, they should just resolve the dilemma by having Hong-do switch psychiatrists and be treated by his mentor, and she can still see Yiseok via her secretarial job. (I really hope they do this.)
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Tai
February 3, 2015 at 3:07 PM
they are not on a contract, and no money has exchanged hands. hell half of what yiseok is doing for hong do is stuff my own friend helped me do (she isnt a doctor nor wants to be) when i was in california. since i am a huge homebody too and i can see how yiseok's a helpful presence in hong do's life and would be regardless of him being her doctor or not. and i think its clear that their relationship didnt start out professional either. like how they first met, i twas way too late at that point to fall into a normal doctor/patient dynamic then.
i think yiseok is using the doctor/treatment thing as an excuse half the time ne way. there IS some ethical issues at play here dont get me wrong. but he wouldnt be in any legal trouble. (she's not getting paid to work for him either, so he cant be held accountable as her boss either. everything is very unofficial with them)
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CruxBBQ
February 3, 2015 at 3:13 PM
Thank you for pointing this out because its getting on my nerves that people keep pointing out. Ethical rules in a kdrama....especially one that has set up a unorthodox relationship.
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iamdeb
February 3, 2015 at 3:21 PM
"Thank you for pointing this out because its getting on my nerves that people keep pointing out. "
I have more than a feeling that someone will comment about it in EVERY recap and the exact same conversation will occur over and over.
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CruxBBQ
February 3, 2015 at 3:22 PM
ugh
Blcktron
February 3, 2015 at 3:47 PM
I know right, we are already at the halfway mark, I was hoping at some point these type of comments would have stopped. I just want to say "thank you captain obvious LOL, now let me get back to loving my drama (put's the popcorn in his mouth)"
Hopefully everyone will read your comment and the conversation will die, we can only hope
Kibble
February 3, 2015 at 5:51 PM
It shouldn't even factor. I didn't even take notice because it's such an adorable drama. The rigid rules just don't seem to apply. Either watch the drama or watch law and order of you want to get technical. It's that simple. Thanks again lollypip. One again spot on assessment of that doo doo character.he was too eager in the last scene and at least he should have been able to identify a platonic hug when witnissing one.
Aigoooo
February 4, 2015 at 5:19 AM
Well, if people can't get past it then what can you do. It's not like they can unscrew each other. What's done is done. I don't even know why it keeps getting brought up.
submonkey
February 3, 2015 at 3:25 PM
As we all know well, drama medicine and drama law have no relation to real life in any way. Who would ever want a drama surgeon to operate on them? Eek. Same thing in this case - and besides, I wouldn't actually say she's a formal patient. So, time to get over it and enjoy the story.
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CruxBBQ
February 3, 2015 at 3:28 PM
What ever happened to just enjoying a good drama story?...
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katykatz
February 4, 2015 at 6:47 AM
I get what you mean but it's only fiction. The drama is meant to entertain viewers not teach them about ethical practices in medicine in south korea. But if in the real world, I don't believe he'll be put to jail because of negligence and malpractice. It's a possibility that his license could be revoked and that he has to pay a huge fine. It certainly is not acceptable to be drunk while having therapy sessions with patients and more importantly with a suicidal one.
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3 Pollywood
February 3, 2015 at 2:32 PM
YSs therapy is working! But of course HD came to find him first. She is a strong and outspoken young woman, and she takes the chances she gets. I totally admire that.
And with time she will be able to let go of her grandma (outfit) and embrace her red-headedness.
But until then she needs to stay close to YS, who provokes the shit out of her - and with that helps her to overcome her self-conciousness.
I love the show, I love the OTP bikering and flirting their way through the episodes, I love how everyone is lonely and pining for someone (yes, I do). It is a sad tale, but it is told in a very cute way. And I want more. Pretty please.
(Though enough with the actress-sister already. She's so annoying, not even DS deserves her shit. :>)
And thank you for the recaps! I can finally understand what happened xD
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4 Blcktron
February 3, 2015 at 2:38 PM
Thank you so much LollyPip!! While watching this episode I really felt like Yi-Seok when he was in his car asking himself if he was a teenage boy, LMAO. This is one of the first dramas for me where the OTP has so much chemistry I actually feel a little jealous, secretly searching for my own HD.
I think you really hit it on the head with DS, for some reason it just comes off wrong when he does something. Earlier people were saying there was a double standard between DS and YS actions. But I feel when YS does something it comes across as playful and open, but for DS it seems intimidating and concrete, smiles and all.
I really do love how honest everyone is with their feelings and standings. YS and HD are pure gold together, their frank and candid conversations (can't say that enough). I was laughing when I heard the 3 months part... (Secret Garden lol). I wasn't sure if anyone else noticed her blushing cleared up partially when he confessed about the hug.
The wait , ohh the wait... where is Friday!!!!
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Tai
February 3, 2015 at 3:18 PM
im on team ys/hd all the way but i feel like doo soo is getting an unfairly bad wrap from lollypip. and i agree with her thoughts on the others and how some of his actions/words sounded. but i dont think he's dangerous at all? certainly not to hong do.
He's a cop who takes his job seriously or he probably would have beaten Yi Seok senseless a while ago tbh.
CJM manages to make Yi Seok so sweet and harmless seeming which helps and if someone else was playing YS he could come off way nastier than he was intended to be. and ofc YS's SQUEAL over hong do cuddles helped too hahahha. (so cute omg)
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Blcktron
February 3, 2015 at 3:38 PM
From the looks of the preview for this weeks episode we may actually see that lol. I don't think DS is physically dangerous or anything like that. I agree with what you said, he is a very serious person and cop to boot. But he just seems overbearing in a sense, take a look at HD's reactions around him, even without her normal shyness.
Haha, they both squeal in excitement, I even found myself doing the same. The hug exchange and confession near her house, PERFECT!!
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5 Khule WY
February 3, 2015 at 2:39 PM
This show is daebak, it seems more reality than fiction, I'm glad I gave it a chance.Marathoned it all at once and I'm eager for the weekend to come.that's the downside of being all caught up,the wait.Thanks for the recaps.
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6 jomo143
February 3, 2015 at 3:22 PM
Thanks for the recap!
I loved the picture of HD in the helmet.
Sooo cute how YS was all happy to pick that out for her.
One of the things I noticed about DS with HD is he's boring.
Maybe because he only talks to fill the silence, but he doesn't seem like all that interesting of a guy. And HD being a reader, she has traveled the world in her imagination. She needs more of a challenging personality to stay involved.
Even Grampa is a better match!
Poor Grampa falling in love with his grandson's girl!
I think the fall out from the ex hug will be brief - at least as far as YS. Once he makes up his mind, there is no turning back. I'm just worried HD's confidence will be too depleted.
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CruxBBQ
February 3, 2015 at 3:32 PM
I wonder how long the are going to keep this grandma HD and YS grandpa going..lel
Because its going to get real awkward later on for grandpa and ys if anything happens.
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oonalala
February 3, 2015 at 3:59 PM
DS is a little boring with HD, but she doesn't exactly give him much to work with. Poor guy is basically just talking to himself when he's with her.
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dfwkimchi
February 4, 2015 at 4:12 AM
I replayed that scene of YS shopping for a new helmet for HD using the pic he snapped of her SOOOO MANY TIMES!!!
That was just too cute!
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7 alpha
February 3, 2015 at 3:26 PM
I totally regret ignoring this drama when it aired. But look at me now, I marathoned through 8 episodes. Although I admit I look like a panda now.
Bloody hell. This is such a refreshing drama. The leads are so imperfect, but when they're together, they make a perfect duo.
Arghhhhh their chemistry is just. And I'm commenting in episode 8, but their sudden kiss in episode 5 seriously made me curl my toes. I felt like I was being kissed instead. Haha. Kdrama, you have made me such a pedo. :D
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alpha
February 3, 2015 at 3:28 PM
kiss in episode 4*
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dfwkimchi
February 4, 2015 at 4:16 AM
Better late than never! Welcome to the Heart to Heart family of fans at DB!
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Adal
February 7, 2015 at 5:00 PM
Me too.
Just caught up with the first 8 episodes and I am loving this drama! I like the way they played it. They slept together first, and are now exploring their feelings for one another. Very western and very modern. Doo soo comes across as a bit of a douche bag but I'm trying not to dislike him because he IS nice and sincere, whatever else his faults are.
Gramps falling for his grandson's girl is hilarious! Wonder how everyone will feel when the truth comes out. If I know Yi suk, he'd probably laugh at the whole thing and not make a big deal out of it. He's refreshingly honest. That's one of his main charms, and one of the biggest draws of them as a couple, their refreshing honesty and sparkling hot chemistry. He looks at her like she's his favorite dessert that he's about to gobble up.
Can't wait for ep.9. I was late getting aboard with this show, but better late than never!
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8 Gaelicmaiden
February 3, 2015 at 3:32 PM
Thank you for the recap! And another thank you for posting that pic of Professor Uhm. I love that little sassy face of hers so much, I had to keep rewatching!
HD and YS are just too adorable together with their giddiness-especially him. And what you said about her being able to dish it out right back to him (both personally and professionally) is a huge part of why I love her and, by extension, him.
Doo Soo. Oh, Doo Soo. The cracks in this white knight's armor are definitely showing. He's certainly not the first second lead to tell the girl that he won't give up on her, but the way he does it rubs me the wrong way. It's similar to another second lead-I think it was the one from "Sly and Single Again"-who crossed the line from "dogged nice guy" to "Dude, she likes someone else. Back the eff off!"
Funny how when this series first started, I was really wondering how they would convince me that YS should be the main love interest since he acted like such a jerk to HD, while DS was so nice (which I'm sure TPTB intended) but now I find myself far more annoyed by DS's treatment of HD.
Not that YS still doesn't have his jerky moments, but at least he's called out on and acknowledges them. DS's niceness, however, is kind of coming across as condescending to me. And it started back when he learned that they slept together, threatening YS and screaming at him not to hurt HD. I'm sure he was just being protective, but I couldn't help but think, "Uh, she's a grown woman capable of running her own life and making her own choices. Who don't you try respecting that?"
And that's what I think it comes down to for be between these two - YS may have his harshness with HD, but at least he respects her, and I don't get the same feeling from DS.
DS still wants to be HD's savior, but YS knows she's perfectly capable of saving herself.
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CruxBBQ
February 3, 2015 at 3:41 PM
Great point at the end there. HD does not need a protector anymore and does not need a inhibitor either. She needs something and someone that challenges her sensibilities an forces her to be herself and let that shine rather then her meek outer shell. That shows itself from time to time.
The butterfly wants to be free now...
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Tai
February 3, 2015 at 3:42 PM
"DS still wants to be HD’s savior, but YS knows she’s perfectly capable of saving herself."
that really sums it up so well. like that one sentence says it all. HD thought she needed a prince to save her from her tower but it turned out she just needed an annoying guy yelling at her from outside to get her out of her tower hahaha. if only to just stomp on him till he shuts up! (this is why I love this otp so much. and in fact YS might need more saving in the end.)
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CruxBBQ
February 3, 2015 at 3:51 PM
YS most definitely needs more saving in the end. Which i think is the mean crux of this over all plot. In regards to HD and YS relationship. Because there is going to come a point were, YS will truly realize that HD is a very special person to him in more ways then one. An the happiness he feels with her with confirm that but also the possibility of a balanced relationship is a real possibility also given how they act with each other. Its very healthy.
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Vi
February 3, 2015 at 7:12 PM
Couldn't agree more with this. Perfectly stated.
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Yvette Hsieh
February 3, 2015 at 8:14 PM
Your last statement nails it!
I think that in a larger scheme of the drama, there is a reason why DS is portrayed as such. He's not a typical second male lead. The writer has gone to great lengths portraying his character--in a way, he's almost like another male lead, not the second male lead. DS's family has been deciding on DS's behalf his own marriage and happiness. He is exercising the same kind of "paternal benevolence"--or rather, violence-- to HD without realizing it himself. It doesn't excuse DS's behaviors, but that's why he becomes the person he is. Lucky for us and YS, HD is never socialized in a conventional way that she will conform to DS's advice and prohibitions.
Remember what YS told HD earlier in the series? Even if you need helmet and even if you have facial flushing symptoms, you are doing fine. He also told her that everybody has a different complexion and it's only because she is too conscious of her red face. If this doesn't make YS a great psychiatrist, I don't know what will. What YS have done best for HD is that he treats HD as his equal, even though he speaks otherwise.
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9 Tai
February 3, 2015 at 3:35 PM
I relate alot with HD and thats why this drama is so so amazing for me (obv the big diff between me and her is i dont have a grandma cosplay for when i want to go out the house lol)
so i totally see why she'd have a huge crush on DS for so long. He's imo a genuinely sweet guy. and despite him having a bit of a temper, he doesnt strike me as violent. DS can BE violent but i dont think its his nature to be violent. do u feel me? and i dont think he would derive ANY pleasure from her being locked up in the house forever if it meant she'd continue to only have eyes for him. he doesnt seem that screwed up in the head thankfully.
Recall he DID tell hong do all these things she was amazing at and would do well in the world once stepped out of it.
DS was hella overstepping when he told her she doesnt /really/ like YS and she's just "confused" but the thing is, I dont think he said that to her to manipulate her i think in his own mind that is the truth and YISEOK is the one manipulating her. DS obv sees HD as a naive innocent wallflower and from how she is around him its easy to see why he does. (when in fact HD is a whip smart firebrand) and of all he has seen from YS so far is that he is a HUGE asshole who dgaf abut hong do at all. now we the viewers know that is NOT true and that HD will choke YS with her bare hands before she lets YS fuck her up the way DS is worried he will. DS sees only HD as vulnerable to YS's machinations when why YS is imo the more sensitive and timid one at heart. (which is why he created an outside persona that is the opposite). its why YS/HD match so well.
I think if DS had a clue about what's rly going on with YS and YS/HD he would probably have stepped back by now or at least reflected on himself.I mean its pretty telling that Yi Seok knows far more about Hong Do in the few weeks he's known her than Doo Soo did in the last 7 years of knowing her.
Doo Soo just doesnt strike me as calculating, manipulative or cunning re life or love. I dont see him engaging in mind games or gas lighting when it comes to HD. He's just truly oblivious to her true needs and state of mind. and he's a good example of how having good intentions and being kind isnt all u need to win a girl's heart even tho its a good start.
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Kim
February 3, 2015 at 3:51 PM
Well said!
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oonalala
February 3, 2015 at 3:54 PM
I totally agree! When DS told HD that her heart was confused, I interpreted that as a nicer way of him saying "how do you not see that the guy you like is a total asshole who is going to use you and drop you?" Which, isn't a great thing to say, but totally understandable under the circumstances. Heck, even YS basically told HD that he'd be dumping her pretty soon. Everyone in the drama-world believes that the relationship between YS and HD is temporary, so I can understand why DS thinks he'll get a second chance with HD if he just hangs out for a while.
Ultimately, the I think the issue is DS sees HD as vulnerable and in need of his protection because that's the only side she's ever shown him, and that's why it will never work out with them.
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CruxBBQ
February 3, 2015 at 4:00 PM
Well he was really saying that, if he understand his emotions to be something else other then real love for HD then. He would indeed break up with her but it would be because whatever he was feeling was not a true feeling towards her yet, he is also concerned about HD in the same moment.
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oonalala
February 3, 2015 at 5:07 PM
Are you talking about what Yi Seok said?
I can't decide if he's just in deep denial about his feelings for HD or if he said that to make himself feel less guilty about how he typically treats his romantic interests. I do really appreciate how matter of fact YS is about everything -- it's one of his most endearing qualities.
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10 pumpkinattack
February 3, 2015 at 4:17 PM
Thanks for the recap! I liked your in-depth analysis.
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11 MysteryMel
February 3, 2015 at 4:32 PM
Lots of chatter or ethical or Dr:Patient rules. We look at drama cause the real world is flawed and we are wanting an escape & what other place to escape by Kdrama. What I like about this show is the physical attraction these two characters demonstrate YET there is honesty with those actions. Their attraction is that crazy "monkey love" which happens seldom in the real world.
* monkey love is that unexplainable, highly physical attraction you have for someone and you know its got a shelf life, so you just swing with that person and have a blast.
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12 mjfan
February 3, 2015 at 4:40 PM
I cant love this show any more , seriously , YS & HD are killing me , they are the best , I cant wait for friday , can it come any sooner ?
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13 Nissa
February 3, 2015 at 5:13 PM
"....because they’re so great together when they’re just having fun and being silly. And let’s face it, they’re great together when they’re fighting and angry, too. "
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14 SuziQ
February 3, 2015 at 5:34 PM
Enjoying this drama. Y.S. gave TMI to Hong Do about his interest in a girl lasting only 3 months and that she is two timing him with Doo Soo. Serves him right for getting caught in the arms with his former love. Poor Hong Do is starting to get out of her social phobia and now it appears the Y.S. is two timing her. Going to set her back, big time. Can't wait until the next episode on how Y.S. talks himself out of a hole.
I really don't like Se-ro and Doo Soo story line who are both irritating. Both are clueless and decide to do what they want to even though the other party is not willing.
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Blcktron
February 3, 2015 at 6:52 PM
I think you missed the point on his conversations with her. When he accused her of two-timing it was all jokingly, he was helping her deal with her current situation instead of stringing DS around when she realized she wasn't as into him as she had once believed. Secondly he clearly laid out the facts to her because this is all new to her so he wanted her to be prepared in case. He doesn't treat her as someone weak.
And if you noticed from the preview it is the EX that is being manipulative and calculating (leaving lipstick on the collar, glaring at HD outside the office). She wants him back, but you can tell he isn't interested in her by the end of the preview
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Yvette Hsieh
February 3, 2015 at 7:20 PM
@Blcktron
I don't think Suzi Q is missing any part. As much as I love YS/ CJM, it doesn't mean that I am going to forgive YS unconditionally. The merit of this show is that all characters are flawed. YS has a commitment issue and he's also extremely insecure, much more so than any character in the show. I remember myself shouting at the screen when he told DS something that "I am not going to let you have HD." Geez. These two guys really treat HD as an object? But then, this is a Korean drama. What else can we expect?
My take for YS's warning is that it's more like he's speaking to himself than to HD. This is also another merit of this show. All three main leads are honest, and they are all aware of their own problems to a certain degree. YS knows that he is incapable of keeping a relationship, and he is also speaking the fear that HD's attachment to him is more like the patient's transference. He is already afraid of losing her basically.
Last but not the least importantly, the writer and the director actually create a female lead character who keeps surprising us. I agree with Lollypip. HD is not your typical meek Kdrama heroine. I am surprised that nobody mentions that she keeps YS's mom suicide note for the sake of protecting YS? Being an "abandoned" child herself, HD is already starting to protect YS in her own way. I don't think that she is going to recoil and back down for this stupid incident. Mind you that she doesn't give up on Detective Jang for seven years even though DS has been going on those blind dates.
I trust the writer/PD who will give us a surprising twist--at least, this is what PD Lee said in the press conference.
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Yvette Hsieh
February 3, 2015 at 7:38 PM
Also, just like his mom, YS has a problem of letting go. That's why he told his ex that we are "in the process of" breaking up instead of really making a full closure.
Even if he does have a manipulative ex-girlfriend, does he need to hug her as well as *touch her head*? Geez.
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Blcktron
February 4, 2015 at 7:26 AM
That's pretty much what I said although it wasn't elaborated as well. He let HD know everything up front, because of his previous experiences I.E. intamacy issues or inability to stay interested for long, player like tendencies, patient falling for doctor and so forth. As said before he doesn't really view HD as a weak character, which is evident in his talk with his mentor.
I was just pointing out that there was no TMI and the two timing jab at HD was in jest and slight(large) jealousy. I love all the characters, this is the most refreshing drama these days, helped me out of my drama slump
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15 Z
February 3, 2015 at 6:47 PM
I'm about OK with Doo Soo's behavior this episode. I facepalmed atv the "you're just confused" line. But, he seems to have thought the better of it. What he said to her the next day was far more balanced. He realized that he had been presumptuouson assuming that she would just be available whenever he was ready. That "I'll love you on my own" line didn't bother me either just because it's been uttered by every doomed Second Lead ever. In real life, it's overstepping. In Dramaland, it's a nail in the coffin.
I don't have a problem with the highly unethical relationship for the same reason, because we all know Kdrama doctors are the worst. But, I do want the characters to at least address it because they are aware of it. Yi Seok even said that Hong Do might just be falling for him because he's her doctor. Shouldn't they at last examine that, suffice they are the ones who brought it up. And they call her diary her "treatment journal." So, clearly, there is done doctoring going on, even if it's not contractual. Since they are clearly making the doctor/patient relationship part of the plot, they should at least address some of the ramifications.
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museofmanymasks
February 3, 2015 at 7:40 PM
You did it again Z! You read my mind and put words to it. Yea, what Do-soo said is typical SLM-line verbatim, and again speaks to his density, not some sort of vague threat couched in niceties. I generally don't like cops either, but erm, that lost me. Regarding his physical prowess he'd probably injure himself (i.e. angsty punching of mirrors or angrily smashing other breakables) before he laid a hand on her in his disappointment, or at all.
And as far as the doctor-patient relationship, yea it was in the premise people, no whitewashing necessary. I appreciate that they're not ignoring it and hope they continue to address it.
Also, anybody else bothered by the excessive irritation (to put it lightly) directed at lil sis? (Or did I complain about this last episode?) I didn't like her initially, but she's grown on me. She's no walk in the park, but I'm relieved she's not being played as a super-aeygo, entitled, two-faced brat. She's a bit of a brat sure, but I think it's just a grounded as Yi Seok's assiness, both derived from parental neglect and how they cope. She gets points for directness too.
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Nicole
February 4, 2015 at 12:07 AM
I think this is the first doctor-patient drama I've watched, but none of the "ethical" issues bother me at all. I'm part of the camp who considers the whole setup metaphorical rather than literal. I have no qualms about the characters considering it like so themselves.
And yes, I don't understand why Se-ro is getting so much flack! I found her entertaining from the very beginning and her developing interest in Doo-soo is so harmless. I think Sohee's doing a great job with the little she has - her exaggerated English is hilarious ("Doo Soo Jaaang?!"). Plus her rapport with Yi-seok/CJM is believable, as evident in the scene where Yi-seok joins her at the table studying Chinese and beer snacking.
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dfwkimchi
February 4, 2015 at 3:42 AM
That little scene with brother-sister teasing was verry funny - Se-Ro showed her witty side when she said the Chinese phrase of 'Have u eaten' that sounded rude in Korean - HA!
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Z
February 4, 2015 at 9:20 AM
I don't have problems with Sero in general. I just don't like the way that her only purpose is as a consolation prize for Doo Soo. I wish they would give her something else to do. And I wish that their falling for each other would be a little more organic. She likes him because she thinks she heard him singing to her? And what, she's just going to wear him down with her love so that, by the time he finally gives up on Hong Do, he'll be too tired to resist her? I don't get why she's needed. In real life, we'd probably be friends. She'd be that one person in your circle who is harmlessly spoiled and totally oblivious about it but means well so you give her a pass. I can deal with that. But, in the context of this show, she's useless.
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bbstl 🧹
February 3, 2015 at 7:41 PM
"In Dramaland, it's a nail in the coffin." HAHAHAAAA
Thats an excellent point, both HD and YS seem to regard their relationship (until the end of this ep) as being doctor/patient, just with a BIG slip up.
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Z
February 4, 2015 at 9:39 AM
Can we also have a moment of silence for Adorable Chunk Doo Soo Jr? I'll ship Hond Do and Doo Soo all the way to the end if it means that they make that cute baby boy from his fantasy!
Fighting Doo Soo-ah! Noona is here!
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16 Rachela
February 3, 2015 at 6:54 PM
No overall thoughts but love for this drama, just wanted to say I have replayed that whole Mona Lisa eyebrows scene about thirty times, and giggled uncontrollably each time. The way CJM waves the phone with that cute little smirk... and CKH's "what is this shi*t" reaction.... sheer genius, genius I say.
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bbstl 🧹
February 3, 2015 at 7:44 PM
This is a show that begs to be rewatched *sqees with glee*.
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Xzf
February 3, 2015 at 8:22 PM
Me too me too! And the stone steps scene too!
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Yvette Hsieh
February 3, 2015 at 8:32 PM
The scene in the car is actually the most natural, realistic love bickering scene so far in this series, and yet it's the most "electrifying," much more so than all the kiss and bed scenes combined. It is CKH and CJM doing the ad lib performance. You can have a glimpse of both actors' real personalities in this scene. I just cannot sing enough praises to PD Lee.
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dfwkimchi
February 4, 2015 at 4:01 AM
Yes - that scene was DAEBAK! - it was so endearing. Loved CJM chuckle when HD tried to get his phone away. Had wondered if that was ad lib?
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tt
February 5, 2015 at 12:57 AM
I think that was CKH's ad lib and CJM reacted to it. CKH's known to do that sometimes.
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Yvette Hsieh
February 5, 2015 at 12:35 PM
Hmm...that's not the part I went gaga about. The phone part is clearly in the script. It's the part where HD/CKH said something like "so you admit that you have all the problems?" Then CJM got a bit shy, turned his head away, and giggled: "No." I was laughing so loud in that scene because it reminded me of how CKH made fun of CJM in the press conference for his getting so shy and timid for the bed scene.
Also, when HD's about to get off the car, YS said "Thank you" and HD responded, "Why/What are you thanking me for?" ...that's the golden moment for me and purely CKH/CJM. You can feel how much they appreciate each other as an acting partner and I think that's why this paring works. They've developed camaraderie, friendship and mutual respect, which you cannot simply "act out" on the screen without having the basis in real life.
redmoon
February 4, 2015 at 11:34 PM
That's it. That's the word I was searching for why I love that scene in the car so much. It was "electrifying"!
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Aigoooo
February 4, 2015 at 10:18 AM
I like the part when she was lunging at his phone and they were both laughing. It felt like the actors were having some real fun with the scene. Like CKH and CJM were just messing around and PD Lee captured them in the moment.
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Haru
February 4, 2015 at 8:25 PM
New commenter here:) I've only been reading dramabeans recaps for a while, but felt the urge to jump into the convo. This drama has done that to me, and the comments I've been reading here of course haha! I totally agree, it looked like that moment in the car was ad lib. It felt very natural, which is one of the reasons this drama has become my favorite in a long time. I love it when everything fits so well. The actors are superb.
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CruxBBQ
February 4, 2015 at 11:58 PM
You know for sure that , that moment was real because there was no cut.
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17 Vi
February 3, 2015 at 7:11 PM
I'm so glad we're of the same mind as far as DS is concerned because I feel like no matter how awful is behaviour gets he continuously seems to get a pass from people when they really should be concerned.
He continuously brushes aside HD feelings, his actions and words dominate her to the point where she gets browbeaten into doing what he wants. Thankfully this week she stood up for herself when she told him that she was going to follow her heart even when he was like "no, you're not feeling what you think you're feeling."
He decides by himself that he's going to keep liking her - okay, fine, this is pretty typical annoying Second Lead behaviour - but then goes so far as to actually call out the guy she's dating to ... what? Who knows why he was going to meet YS at the hospital. Probably to punch him AGAIN for whatever DS is angry about in that moment.
He's already ignoring HD's feelings and doing things "on his own" but now he's going so far as to interfere in the relationship which is even worse.
If the show would acknowledge that his behaviour is not okay as far as HD is concerned I wouldn't be so bothered by it but it's the fact that he literally goes around doing whatever he pleases whenever he pleases in the most entitled fashion that drives me crazy.
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18 bbstl 🧹
February 3, 2015 at 7:53 PM
While I agree that what DS says sometimes puts me on edge, I do think it makes sense. This has all happened really fast, HD just told him she liked him - what, a week ago? Part of his problem is that's he's just slow. Who would believe she would make such a turnaround so quickly after 7 years of hiding and delivering food to her crush? It makes sense to me that a tall, handsome first son of an old family would find that hard to catch. And I do think in a way he feels like he's god's gift to her. Prove me wrong, DS!
I think it quite possible that he's gone to the clinic to try to pin down YS's feelings and warn him not to hurt HD.
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dfwkimchi
February 4, 2015 at 3:51 AM
Very true! Unless Lee Jae Yoon has played this DS character wrongly - the vibe i get of his character is one without malice - which has been commented on befor - he is just emotionally slow but have a caring side - especially towards HD - whom he knows to have a social phobia on the surface. He might NOT have been aware that she has a strong will/courage to change AND change FAST that is causing him to want to shield HD from the likes of YS.
DS is somewhat 'familair' with YS as YS's clinic has been broken into several times and DS n partner were the officers in charge of those cases. So DS kinda knows how aholey YS can be.
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19 meowingme
February 3, 2015 at 8:27 PM
The cold opening annoyed me much! I am expecting some kind of explanation by the end of ep 8, but it's like being made to wait 2 weeks long T_T
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20 reynie87
February 3, 2015 at 8:34 PM
argh... that ending. -.-
anyway, i noticed being honest is kind of a trend in kdrama nowadays. before, kdrama is full of noble idiots characters who think keeping things to themselves mean protecting the other person, which always make me want to smack my screen computer everytime i watch one.
but these days the drama are different, drama like Healer, Kill me heal me, and heart to heart, actually deal with total honesty when it comes to relationship, which i really appreciates and love
btw, i don't really like the girl playing hong do, idk why. maybe it came from when i watch protect the boss, and i had a dislike towards her. but thank goodness i was liking the other leads, and the plotline of the drama is pretty good, so i'll keep on watching.
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Hanna
February 3, 2015 at 9:23 PM
Like you, I never liked choi kang hee before and I even found her awful, but this show made me into a fan. Love her! I didn't know that she can be this talented and for me , CKH=CHD. I mean, she obviously has a lot of acting to do,but it doesn't feel like she is acting at all and she is always in character. She is the central figure in this drama, but she manages to create dynamic and different degrees of chemistry with every character she interacts with,including the butler, and makes them shine. This is not the easy feat,and I can't say the same for her performance in boss. I started to think that perhaps she is more suitable for this sort of small indie project,because she doesn't have the mainstream looks and feel to her.
By the way, I know Korean cuz I am half Korean. Her transition into the role of granny is daebak! She speaks the dialect my grandma speaks,with the same kind of accent and expressions old people always have! Am I the only one who loves the chemistry between her and the grandpa? They are so cute together!
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meliyasha
February 3, 2015 at 11:46 PM
I disliked Choi Kang-hee because of that drama-that-must-not-be-named which she appeared with Joo-won. Good thing I decided to give this drama a chance <3
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Hanna
February 4, 2015 at 2:16 PM
LOL That's the drama I was referring to. I blanked out on the name. I didn't like JW either so I dropped the drama after two episodes. In all fairness, CKH did a good job in Boss, but the entire drama is overrated.
I started watching My Sweet Seoul two days ago and it's a hidden gem! My aunt who teaches in one of the Korean universities recommended it to me long time ago saying it's her favorite TV show. She hated Korean dramas in general, but she really liked this one and even gave me the book. I read mixed reviews in English world before so I didn't dare to check out the drama cuz I love the book. Oh my goodness. CKH is fascinating in the drama. Again, it's not really a drama for everyone and her role is very complicated and flawed-but painfully real . Anyway. I am happy that h2h gives me a chance to rediscover my Sweet Seoul!
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bbstl 🧹
February 4, 2015 at 8:46 AM
Thanks for that detail! I love knowing that she's convincing as Halmoni. Too cute.
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21 howforwardsale
February 3, 2015 at 9:50 PM
Lollypip, I loved your take on the reason why Doo Soo's reactions rub you the the wrong way. It's more his physical presence than his real intention.
And just look at how men of his physique are portrayed in dramas. They are the gangsters, loan shark henchmen, security staff, the suspicious men in black that abduct, the nasty drunks that no one can handle, the abusers of men and women. Whether its a Kdrama or not. This is why I love Terry Crews' character on Brooklyn 99. In real life there are some really big buff imposing looking teddy bears. They have jobs in which they use force but are really squishy emo men. Their roughness does not carry over to their romantic life.
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22 howforwardsale
February 3, 2015 at 9:52 PM
I'm probably the only one that sees that Se Ro and Doo Soo should match up well once they get together.
Doo Soo is kind and treats his girlfriends very respectfully according to what he considers good for her. He is just out of touch with what she wants and feels because he doesn't ask. He assumes.
In comes Se Ro with a detailed list of what she wants him to do. She tells him how she feels even when its not his fault she feels that way. She overshares, Doo Soo will always know where they stand and won't have to guess what she wants. She will find a way to tell him via a letter, to his face, whatever. If he tries to avoid it, she will stalk him at work. That's the only way with him. He doesn't know it yet.
And she isn't totally unreasonable because she does listen after she has said her piece. She isn't above apologizing sincerely and trying to make amends.
On the other hand Doo Soo has this incredible tenderness, sense of loyalty and traditional values that Se Ro needs in her life because of her father's relationship with his family. She has issues with her mom and dad for leaving her out of everything and only wanting her at her brother's memorial service. In Doo Soo's family she will definitely get an active and pivotal role.
This writer has made Doo Soo and Se Ro matching puzzle pieces.
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Lindy
February 3, 2015 at 10:40 PM
You are not completely alone. I like them together too and think they have the makings of a good match.
I like Se-ro. She has been raised in a fractured environment and must have been very young when her brother died. He obviously was the "golden child" of the family; physically imposing, bright, out-going, favoured by his parents and grandfather. Yi-seok comes up short by comparison; he's quiet, shy, and small for his age. When the brother died it's as if a light went out for all of them.
Se-ro's father, mother, grandfather and brother have each coped with his loss in their own special ways, ignoring her, and she seems to have be left to raise herself. Which she has done; she studies and investigates what she does and doesn't want both in her life and in a man. She's an actress, admittedly not a very good one, but she works hard at it. She's the kind of person who needs to be kept busy with projects etc which I can relate to as I am exactly the same kind of person.
A large extended family with 26 memorials a year, babies, and lots of relatives constantly checking in wouldn't faze her at all. She's exactly the kind of woman a guy like Doo-soo needs to be happy because he respects his family and its traditions with a wife who is a partner. Hong-do is exactly the kind of woman he doesn't need to be happy.
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meowingme
February 4, 2015 at 1:38 AM
I agree so much with this. I was actually quite afraid to watch H2H at first, it seemed Do Soo was so helplessly falling to second lead hell (cause he's such a sweetie and so purrty and all), but the development makes him so interestingly human with all his shortcomings.
Se Ro is interesting in her paradox, seems so klutzy and hapless, but can speak in 4 languages and has 155 IQ..?
I have high hopes that this drama will tell their story in a believable way instead of just slapping a happy ending for them *cough marriage not dating cough!*.
Nothing wrong with rooting for two couples instead of having second lead angst :D
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hisown
February 4, 2015 at 5:18 AM
Wow, finally someone who agrees with me about Doo Soo and Se Ro's pairing. If this goes the way I imagine they should bring out the best in one another. With Se Ro's personality do Soo's family will not be able to intimidate her.
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dfwkimchi
February 4, 2015 at 6:46 AM
"With Se Ro’s personality do Soo’s family will not be able to intimidate her."
How true!
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redmoon
February 4, 2015 at 11:45 PM
Couldn't agree with you more. Hope to see more of them together Doo-soo and Se-ro.
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23 2ambegfever
February 3, 2015 at 10:28 PM
The more i watch this drama, the more i'm a fan of Hongdo, even a woman who has been living under spotlight may not be as outspoken, brave and honest as her
Love how she just wholeheartedly accept the feeling she has and confidently cut the past memories she's once fond of
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24 Aigoooo
February 4, 2015 at 5:27 AM
That look on Hong Do's face while they where hugging at the bridge was so adorable and priceless. She looked like some kid who just opened the best Christmas present. Great acting by CKH. She didn't even say one word during that scene. It's probably one of the best romantic scene I have watched in Kdrama.
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25 Z
February 4, 2015 at 9:36 AM
I also kind of wish that they would show us Hong Do interacting more with people who are not Doo Soo or Yi Seok. Because that's litererally the only people she's had any interaction with when not in her disguise, so how do we know if she's really getting better or if she's just gotten used to these two people. I want to see her go grocery shopping and ride a bike and go get a job without the security of one of her Two Shining Knights in Armor (How does a girl sign up for that program, by the way?)
I guess the new visorless helmet is a baby step, but so far, she's only used it to run and see Yi Seok. So it's still in the context of one of the guys. I hope the show takes steps to give her some more demonstrable growth soon because I'm really rooting for her to really take part in the world.
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dfwkimchi
February 4, 2015 at 11:36 AM
That would be in Ep 16 when she is all cured by the awesome Dr. Jerk (YS)!
Joke aside - Ep 8 shows that she had made baby steps - walking all the way to hospital using the RED scarf (DS's gift) and using a helmet with no visor (YS's gift)!
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26 MiniMinty
February 4, 2015 at 8:13 PM
Hello! I am sorry I am late to this party of awesomeness. I just marathon this show and have fully caught up. I hope more people discover this show because this cable show deserves more love. Can't wait til Friday so I can join everyone and squee over our adorable OTP!
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CruxBBQ
February 4, 2015 at 11:54 PM
better late then never!
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27 M
February 5, 2015 at 7:18 AM
Good review! excited for the following episodes: ))
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28 cici
February 5, 2015 at 3:19 PM
Yes, I agree with commets of the adorable couple. They just have great chemistry. I was initially skeptical about the casting because of CJM because of his previous roles all being too serious. Now I just can't get enough if them. They just make me squeal like a school girl when they are being all cutesy together.
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29 db
February 5, 2015 at 4:23 PM
Great recap. I originally started this drama on a whim, and stayed with it because it's just so refreshingly different.
Here we have growth and strength, honesty and beauty, all hiding behind a red face in a motorcycle helmet. Good stuff!
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30 jayyyb
February 6, 2015 at 12:49 AM
Gotta say I love reading these comments just as much as the recaps, you guys are hilarious, like a drama in addition to the actual kdrama. As far as the whole doctor-patient relationship. I never really saw them that way. There was nothing ever professional about these two lol. There was no formal weekly meetings or paperwork or counseling...nothing to ever really prove she was his client. But I can see how you guys could get confused because of the drama's original synopsis. I just thought of it as a mutual agreement...like she help him around the office and prevent him from having those "headaches"....still don't really get that lol..and he in exchange give her advice on how to overcome her disorder and be more social. Yes, this is really unrealistic if this were real life but we're in kdrama land and most people go there to escape reality and just have a really good laugh or cry...plus most of these dramas are very over exaggerated and unrealistic anyway. So have your own opinions, but my advice would be not to over analyze and just take this show for what it is, a lighthearted rom-com about two dysfunctional people coming together, falling in love, and becoming a little less dysfunctional. And I gotta say I'm enjoying every minute of it! :)
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31 Blcktron
February 6, 2015 at 3:40 AM
It's Friday!!!! Let Squeeee fest begin!!
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dfwkimchi
February 6, 2015 at 4:14 AM
Yep! We all have a date with Dr. HuggyBear, Cop Gentle Giant and Brave Girl HD! Come on HD - u can do it!
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