Misaeng: Episode 8
by odilettante
Sometimes being a leader requires sacrifice, and Chief Oh faces his Scylla and Charibdys as he’s forced to choose what is more important to him: his integrity or his team. As for our newbies, we learn who Young-yi’s mysterious caller is, and Baek-ki’s finally loses his patience for being constantly ignored when he asks the question we’ve been wondering for weeks: why does his boss hate pretty boys in glasses?
EPISODE 8 RECAP
It’s Sunday, the day of rest, and in the early morning, Geu-rae goes for a run, remembering how his old baduk teacher counseled that physical health is important for mental health, especially when it comes to will power and stamina.
At a coffee shop, Baek-ki tries to appear politely interested in his blind date, but she’s more focused on his salary and how he would be able to provide for her. He bails early and heads to the movies, where he runs into Young-yi (and he lies that he’s dressed up for a friend’s wedding, not a blind date).
They end up watching a horror-film double-feature together, and afterwards Young-yi is amused at Baek-ki’s glassy-eyed expression. Ha! Apparently he can’t handle scary movies. She leans in to tell him one more scary thing: “Tomorrow’s Monday.”
Chief Oh snoozes on the sofa as his wife cleans, and when she ruthlessly vacuums the sofa with him still on it, he ends up on the floor, much to the delight of his sons.
Monday arrives (as predicted) and everyone’s back at work, and Chief Oh is in his boss’s office, expecting a new big project after the rare resources one was taken from him. But when he sees what it’s for — and more importantly, who he’ll have to persuade to sign a contract — he immediately refuses.
The department head offers Chief Oh a bribe that’s hard to ignore: if they get this deal, then he’ll assign an another person to the overworked Sales Team 3. Chief Oh’s reticence to start a new project baffles Geu-rae, though, and he wonders what his boss could be so worried about.
Committing a crime, apparently. During a rooftop smoke break, he bursts out that this assignment is worse than embezzlement, and besides, he doesn’t want to look bad in front of his kids. Which is why he didn’t accept the assignment after all, much to Dong-shik’s exasperation.
But when they return to the office, the documents for the Mecca Phone deal have already been delivered. It looks like they’ll have no choice but to work on it, then, because Chief Oh’s last-ditch effort to avoid it due to lack of funds only ends up with him being presented with his boss’s company credit card.
As Chief Oh returns to his lost-in-thought catatonic state, Dong-shik tries explains to the bewildered Geu-rae why Chief Oh is so against this project. He struggles to explain the issue Chief Oh has with the “quirky” CEO Moon of Mecca Phone, but finally states that it all comes down to Chief Oh’s “principles.”
Those “principles” apparently have given him the grand idea of getting the three of them to drink spoiled milk, since the department head can’t possibly expect them to work when they’re sick with food poisoning.
Dong-shik protests, but Geu-rae downs his in one shot while the other two stare in astonishment. They attempt gag down the rest of the spoiled milk, and it’s as gross as you can imagine. But as the men sit on the toilet, expecting the worst, they gradually realize that their microflora is heartier than expected. The taste of sour milk never seemed so bitter.
Back to square one as everyone returns whole and healthy to their desks. Geu-rae wonders what principle of Chief Oh’s could possibly be stronger than his work ethic. But he’s not given much time to think about it as the phones start to ring off the hook from various owners of gentlemen’s clubs, offering Chief Oh special deals.
Annoyed, he hangs up on them all, yelling at them to never call him again, but one enterprising owner arrives in person, official business plan in hand. She gives her sales pitch, reminding Chief Oh that they were the ones who helped Sales Team 1 seal the deal last year with CEO Moon, and assures him that with their VIP services, satisfaction is guaranteed. Especially for the “second round.”
As Chief Oh mopes outside with Sales Team 2’s department chief (who tells him to suck it up and just accept the assignment for the sake of his team), Dong-shik and Geu-rae happily snack on the sweet treats the gentlemen’s club owner brought as a bribe.
But once Geu-rae finds out that the reason Chief Oh is so dead-set against entertaining CEO Moon is because the CEO always demands a second round (aka sexual favors) he sets aside the candy in distaste. A second round is illegal, of course, but Dong-shik attempts to explain that Chief Oh isn’t just against it because of legal reasons, but also because of his principles regarding basic human dignity.
Geu-rae: “So he puts people above work?” As noble as it sounds, it’s also frustrating — Dong-shik points out that for an assignment that affects the whole team, sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do, principles be damned.
Seok-yul to the rescue! Of course he knows exactly the dilemma Sales Team 3 is going through, and he suggests that Chief Oh just get CEO Moon so drunk in the first round he’ll sign the contract without going to the second. He adds that he would offer his vast drinking knowledge to help out, but he’s just too busy right now. Both Chief Oh and I laugh at the thought of Seok-yul being “too busy.”
Baek-ki returns to his desk after his smoke break, noting the corrections Assistant Manager Kang made on the list he gave him earlier. In a huff, he sets about updating them in the spreadsheet, remembering that Assistant Manager Kang had told him he could go work at another company if he wanted to. His phone buzzes, and it’s a message from a head hunter, asking if he’s thinking about switching jobs any time soon. Perfect timing!
The resource department’s chief gives the carbon emissions case to Young-yi, since she was the one who convinced the finance department to approve it, and he also assigns douchey Assistant Manager Ha to work on it with her. Young-yi is thrilled that she’ll get to work on her own project, but Assistant Manager Ha is pissed that he’s forced to work with her. He pulls her aside to tell her to find an excuse — any excuse at all — to not work on the case.
As Chief Oh returns to his desk, he sees that poor over-worked Dong-shik’s fallen asleep in his chair, only jolted awake by the phone ringing. Remembering the promise that the department head would give him another employee, which would lessen the workload for his team, he makes his decision: “Let’s do it!”
Geu-rae provides a hilariously detailed powerpoint presentation of all the research he’s done regarding their “entertainment strategy” for CEO Moon. There’s even a flowchart! But it doesn’t get them any further in figuring out how to get CEO Moon (with his ridiculously high alcohol tolerance) drunk before the second round.
Enter Seok-yul, with his simple whiteboard and a basic seating chart (ha, it looks like he spent more time on his drawing of CEO Moon’s face than anything else). Young-yi gets roped into their shenanigans, too, and is assigned the role of CEO Moon in their imagined role-play. Aw, she looks super cute with her mustache!
Seok-yul launches into his convoluted plan, but is swiftly interrupted by Young-yi, who explains why his advice isn’t totally helpful. Then she rattles off a list of ways the guys can pretend to keep drinking but still stay sober. They all stare at her in astonishment. Chief Oh: “See? This is why I said we need her!”
Later, when Geu-rae tells her that Chief Oh is going through all this to uphold his principles, she marvels at the old-fashioned concept, charmed to discover that such idealism still exists in this cynical and jaded world. Despite Dong-shik’s worry about not having the second round as a backup, Chief Oh is convinced they’ll find a way to get CEO Moon to sign in the first round, no matter what.
Baek-ki’s getting ready to leave for the day when Assistant Manager Kang returns. He glances at the corrections made to the list, approving them, and then hands Baek-ki a new document to review for typos. But Baek-ki’s reached his breaking point, and tells him that he won’t do it.
He’s done enough tedious clerical tasks as an intern — he’s here to do business, to start working on projects like the other newbies (he stops just short of fully naming Geu-rae). Baek-ki wants to know why his assistant manager hates him so much, but Assistant Manager Kang wants to know what Baek-ki has learned so far. All Baek-ki can come up with is “patience,” and he adds that this is not the time for learning, but to put his already-learned knowledge to use.
Young-yi watches in concern as he stomps off, giving her the cold shoulder when they meet at the elevator. She’s tagging along with Sales Team 3 for dinner (on the boss’s dime, since Chief Oh still has his credit card, ha!). But when an unfamiliar man steps into the lobby and quietly calls her name, she freezes in shock.
Excusing herself from dinner, she hurries to the bus stop to go home. She’s so preoccupied with her thoughts about this mysterious man, she doesn’t realize she left some paperwork on the bench. Geu-rae, who’s been keeping a careful eye on her, runs to get on the bus so he can return them to her.
He watches in quiet concern as she stares out the window, ignoring him. Fighting back tears, she remembers a previous time when she confronted that mysterious man from the lobby, referring to him as “Team Leader” as she angrily called him a hypocrite. Crying, she demanded to know if he thought she would be grateful or think of him as her savior, before turning on her heel and walking away.
In the present, her phone rings — it’s the mysterious unknown number from before. This time she answers it, but only to say “Please stop, Father.” Innnnnteresting. She’s so shaken by everything, she doesn’t even notice when Geu-rae gets off the bus.
The next morning, Baek-ki sighs defeatedly as he enters the office. But the document awaiting his review is back on his desk, and he slams it down in frustration. He reads the message from the head-hunter one last time before deciding to give her a call.
The men of Sales Team 3 prepare themselves to entertain CEO Moon as though they’re going to war, and they arrive at the gentlemen’s club to double-check that all their carefully planned efforts to avoid getting drunk have been set up.
The fabulously mustachioed CEO Moon arrives, and Geu-rae wonders if Chief Oh will be able to stick to his principles. It will be a lot harder than originally planned, since CEO Moon casually walks by the room that the guys have pre-selected. They stare in worried astonishment as Geu-rae narrates that the battle was over before it was even begun.
Between flashes of the drunken aftermath as the guys, in crazy costumes, belt-out karaoke while CEO Moon cozies up to the ladies, we see how each and every meticulous detail they worked on was easily foiled.
Even though they never really stand a chance, Chief Oh tries to persevere with his intent to get CEO Moon to sign the contract, all the way up to the point when they’re stumbling drunk by the time early morning rolls around.
CEO Moon’s got an arm around one of the club girls as they stagger to the hotel, and Chief Oh manages to shove the copy of the contract into the pocket of CEO Moon’s suit coat. Dong-shik can barely even stand, and as he and Geu-rae watch Chief Oh attempt to walk down the street, Geu-rae at least consoles himself with the fact that, even though Chief Oh failed in getting CEO Moon to sign before the second round, at least their team will still survive.
But the next morning, the team sits dazed and hungover as Dong-shik moans that they’re ruined. Ruined! It turns out that CEO Moon woke up to find not a club girl in bed with him, but his own wife. Chief Oh is the only pleased by that news as he informs the guys that it was his plan all along.
He’d found out that CEO Moon’s anniversary was the same night they were going to be entertaining him, and the fact that CEO Moon was planning to cheat on his wife on their anniversary got Chief Oh’s blood boiling. So he came up with the idea to send her to the hotel, too, as an anniversary present. He’s happy that everything went to plan, but Dong-shik is freaking out because they’ve lost the contract.
The department head is furious that Chief Oh would let his principles stand in the way of an important business deal, and doles out his heavy-handed punishment of threatening that they’ll receive the worst assignments from now on. Chief Oh escapes to the roof for a break, and as he gulps down his beer, his son calls to ask him to buy fried chicken on the way home. Aw, his spirit is slightly restored when talking to his son.
He falls asleep for awhile, reviving only to a text message from his son about the chicken. Geu-rae arrives, concerned that his boss hadn’t been answering his phone, as Chief Oh warns him to not tell anyone that he had dozed off — or passed out — with a nose bleed. Yikes.
Assistant Manager Ha is furious that Young-yi hasn’t dropped the project yet, and says that she can work on it all by herself. He storms off, taking his anger out on a trashcan as he passes Seok-yul, who stepped out for a smoke break (and, of course, overheard everything).
Seok-yul tries to cheer up Young-yi, telling her that Assistant Manager Ha is just jealous of Young-yi’s talent and abilities. He encourages Young-yi to return to the confident intern he once knew.
Head held high, she returns to the office, informing Assistant Manager Ha that she’ll do just as he’s requested: she’ll let him take the lead on that case, and instead will take over his mundane day-to-day tasks so he can focus on it.
Baek-ki is revising his resumé in preparation to send it off to the head hunter when Assistant Manager Kang returns. At first he’s as dismissive as ever, but then he tells Baek-ki that he won’t stop him if he decides to quit. Steel is a conservative business — small changes are made gradually over a long period of time. Which is why someone on the steel team needs to be less focused on eloquence and instant results, and more focused on the basics and long-term goals.
But Baek-ki believes he’s spent enough time building up the basics during his schooling and internships. Finally dropping his calm facade, he angrily demands Assistant Manager Kang explain why he hates him.
The assistant manager points out that it has nothing to do with feelings It all goes back to the first day that Baek-ki was here, when he had tried to submit his own plan without even bothering to study what the steel team had previously submitted. Baek-ki was too hasty to be acknowledged.
If that kind of basic research was so important, why didn’t he tell Baek-ki right away? Assistant Manager Kang says he gave him many opportunities to figure it out himself, but obviously Baek-ki still has a long ways to go.
After the assistant manager leaves, Baek-ki returns to his desk and immediately emails his resumé. Young-yi again runs into Baek-ki at the elevator, and tells him that she’s taken his advice: she’s going to give in to her team. Baek-ki cryptically answers that she’s found her way now, and “I guess I’ve found mine.”
Chief Oh is still feeling the effects of his hangover, and decides to go out for some fresh air. Dong-shik and Geu-rae worriedly watch him go, and when Chief Go mentions that a same-aged collogue recently had a stroke with similar symptoms as Chief Oh, they rush out to find him, panicking when he doesn’t answer his phone.
A flashback to Geu-rae’s father’s funeral makes him stress even more frantic as hits redial over and over. Soon the entire sales department is on the hunt for Chief Oh, everyone assuming the worst.
But he’s at the hospital, snoring away while he’s hooked to an IV machine. He wakes up, surprised to see so many missed calls.
He returns to work, apologizing for his absence while the department head yells at him for skipping his annual medical check-up. His boss chides him for not taking care of his health when he has a family to support. Then he gives Chief Oh a big box of dried eels for health, claiming he bought it for for a vendor that never showed. Aw, the department head may be a jerk sometimes, but he still cares about his staff.
Chief Oh clutches the box of dried eel to his chest, practically daring his staff to take him up on his offer of sharing it with them. When he hears the department head scream out his name, he quickly hides it underneath the desk, lest it be taken back.
The department head isn’t yelling in anger, though — he just received a phone call that CEO Moon approved the deal, and actually asked to double the agreement. Dong-shik is amazed, surprised to learn that CEO Moon is such a romantic, assuming he was swayed by the opportunity to spend his anniversary with his wife. But as Geu-rae cleans up the research on CEO Moon that was left on Chief Oh’s desk, he finds out the truth: Chief Oh had discovered that it’s the CEO’s wife who’s actually in charge of the company.
The next day, Geu-rae — and Assistant Manger Kang — see Baek-ki in the middle of a meeting with his head-hunter. Chief Oh is just excited to get to the office because, as promised, a new employee has been assigned to their team. Aw, he’s still hoping for Young-yi.
When they arrive at their desks, the new guy is already there. He greets Chief Oh by name, but Chief Oh stands stone-faced, his previous good cheer completely gone.
COMMENTS
I’ll admit I had the wild idea (or blind hope?) that Baek-ki might be reassigned to Sales Team 3 as their new employee. I think that’s just because I want Chief Oh to become “Chief of All Interns and Newbies” — to just gather up these poor lost little ducks who feel so out of place in their departments and teach them how to be successful while they maintain a sense of integrity. (Well, except for maybe Seok-yul, who apparently is quite happy in his department, even if it seems like he never does any work. Or maybe he’s happy because he never does any work. Hmmm.)
This new guy definitely made me tense up, though. We know absolutely nothing about him yet, but already I’m totally sold on his backstory. Clearly there’s tension between him and Chief Oh, and once again I have to hand it to the casting directors, because even though he had maybe ten seconds (at most!) of screen time, I still felt like I immediately got a handle on his character: a shady, gangster type that clearly has a not-so-great past with Chief Oh.
I’m all set to hate him, but then I have to remind myself that this show continues to remind us over and over that these characters are so much more than archetypal black-and-white “hero” or “villains.” Each time I’m ready to dig my heels in, all, “yes, you’re totally an asshole and deserve to be tripped at every opportunity,” somehow the show makes me realize that these people are first-and-foremost human, with their own foibles and struggles. (Well, except for the resource team, especially that douchey Assistant Manager Ha. They’re still definitely on the black list.)
Case-in-point from this episode: Assistant Manager Kang. I haaaaaaaated the way he had been treating Baek-ki these past couple of episodes. But then I realized the show had only been giving me Baek-ki’s perspective — that of a superior who was snubbing the eager efforts of a young, ambitious worker. Like Baek-ki, I didn’t stop to think that perhaps there was a reason he assigned only mundane tasks. But now I’ve completely turned my opinion around and am rooting for Baek-ki to learn the lesson Assistant Manager Kang is trying to teach him.
Or maybe I’m just desperately hoping Baek-ki stays, no matter what it takes. I’m pretty sure Baek-ki won’t go to the other company, because Kang Ha-neul has, like, third billing and therefore I’m assuming he’ll stick around One International a little longer. But that doesn’t mean I won’t be biting my nails, worried now that since he’s reached his boiling point, he won’t be able to cool down enough to be truly humble. Because that seems to be the thrust of the lesson — Baek-ki is so determined to prove how amazing he is, that he isn’t willing to stop and learn about the basics. It’s more than just the rote material he learned in college or in his other internships — it’s about how the department functions in relation to their product and the rest of the company.
This is a lesson that Young-yi started to learn in the previous episode (and even though I still hate her team, I’m thrilled she’s showing them that she’s a good asset after all), and something that I think Geu-rae has been learning since the beginning. Well, he’s kind of had to, because he knows he doesn’t know anything, and therefore all he really has are the basics. Perhaps the reason that Geu-rae seems to be “so far ahead” of Baek-ki isn’t because he’s some kind of magical-pixie-wunderkind, but because of his baduk training, he’s already spent his life learning patience and the importance of spending time focusing on the basics.
Which is, again, why I’m so thankful that Chief Oh is his mentor, because Chief Oh forever values people over contracts. He’s not a perfect man — he drinks too much (ahhhh, I’m incredibly worried about his liver, especially with today’s fainting and nose bleed! Not to mention the ominous opening scene pointing out the importance of a healthy body for a healthy mind. Please don’t be foreshadowing; pleasepleaseplease don’t let it be cancer!). As much as he loves his family, he doesn’t treat them as well as perhaps he ought. But his entire motivation for doing well at work is his family, and he’s constantly fighting for his team, as well as standing up for the people who are genuine and sincere in what they do, despite what others might think.
In return, Chief Oh manages to bring hope to people who might worry that the world has become so jaded and cynical in this day and age, where everyone is chasing after profits and the bottom line. His disheveled hair and dark circles under his eyes may not seem the most inspiring, but he’s somehow a beautiful oasis in a culture where egos battle for dominance and ambition will do anything for just one chance to move another rung up the ladder we sometimes refer to as the “rat race.”
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1 Jon G.
November 12, 2014 at 12:46 PM
Horror double feature? I somehow got the idea that Young-yi talked about the "horror wedding" + "horror movie" as two horror shows.
And I'm also not sure whether Young-yi is trolling Baek-ki, or if that's her clumsy way to flirt with him. An invitation to blood stew to make him feel better after a double horror show? Topped by "tomorrow is monday"?
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Jon G.
November 12, 2014 at 12:53 PM
I want to add that I really like the "cold open concept" of the show. In this episode, we get a concise and pointed summary of the weekend, before we get to the titles (and then directly into the monday morning office).
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Auntiemame
November 12, 2014 at 2:30 PM
I agree that the two horrors were: First, the 'bride' at the friend's wedding, which, in reality, was his blind date. Second was the horror movie they just watched.
YY was so droll with her humor. First, with the blood soup. Then, with the Monday. It's really nice to see a different side of her.
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shinayame
November 12, 2014 at 6:03 PM
I was watching this episode on a Sunday night and when Young Yi said, "Tomorrow's Monday" my reaction was literally, "Hahahahahaha, sucker....oh no."
On the brighter side, I love this show because it's so different from every other show I've watched this year. It's so down-to-earth and understated that when I'm watching, it feels like a quiet little rest stop in between all the joseon sword fighting and crime fighting criminals and psychotic game masters. It's a lovely note to end the week on and kick off the goofy weekend.
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thursdaynexxt
November 13, 2014 at 2:00 AM
Yep, she was laying it on thick at Baek Ki's expense, ha! She's so droll and deadpan, I love her!
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amie
November 13, 2014 at 10:27 AM
"geu rae as some magical-pixie wunderkind" - love that one coz Geu rae sure looks so ethereal most of the time. Chief Oh is the center of this drama,when I thought at first it was geu rae, whatever, I love Misaeng! This would have to be the best for 2014!
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2 Hipployta
November 12, 2014 at 12:55 PM
Chief Oh is definitely stealing everyone's hearts with his effort
Glad he went to the hospital...
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3 Jon G.
November 12, 2014 at 1:10 PM
This show is really weird. The whole Mun-deal was played as an almost straight (dark) comedy sub-story (while at the same time there is Chief Oh's alarming health issues and so on).
But even in their "heist planning meeting", which was suddenly fast paced and totally hilarious, the show stuck to the character concepts:
Geu-rae has a data warehouse full of facts on Mun.
Dong-shik has a flow-chart for getting Mun drunk.
Seok-yul has a practical battle plan.
The only one who seems slightly out of character is Young-yi, who causally points out the weaknesses in Seok-yul's plan and fixes them. Collective nerdgasm by the guys.
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Auntiemame
November 12, 2014 at 2:34 PM
I thought this episodes was absolutely brilliant, with the seamless blending of the dark and light aspects the events. And, real life is very much a blend of dark and light, with no discernible boundaries.
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4 simirugrat
November 12, 2014 at 1:25 PM
Isn't the new employee the same guy Geu-rae was chasing in episode 1? Seriously loving this show.
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Nessie
November 12, 2014 at 1:34 PM
Nah it's a different guy, this one seems alot older than the guy in episode one.
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shinayame
November 12, 2014 at 6:06 PM
But they mentioned Jordan, didn't they?
Does that mean badass Geu Rae will be making an appearance soon?
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coby
November 12, 2014 at 9:44 PM
I hope so! I can't wait to see the continuation of that chase scene in Jordan.
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5 kdramas
November 12, 2014 at 1:31 PM
It was a wonderful episode! ❤❤❤
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6 zafinah
November 12, 2014 at 1:33 PM
I think that Young-yi's actions in this episode are a clue to her back story and not out of character at all.
There have been hints that she has a dark past.
I believe she used to be a hostess in a club and that's why she knows so much about not getting drunk. It also explains the flashback with the team leader in the garage.
I doubt she prostituted herself while acting as a hostess but I believe its how she put herself through school even though she was economically disadvantaged.
She's pretty much proved that she doesn't ever give up no matter what is thrown at her, which is something she has in common with Gue Rae and one of the reasons I don't think a relationship with Baek Gi would ever work out, as he isn't that way.
I love everything about this show from script, casting, directing, cinematography, and music choices.
Anyway, my two cents.
Regards,
Zafinah
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Jon G.
November 12, 2014 at 1:36 PM
Yep, that was a very clever way to give an additional hint/angle to her so far relatively esoteric character.
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changhyun
November 12, 2014 at 2:46 PM
It may also explain why she fights for her job and works so hard; she knows what it's like to be at the bottom...hmmm
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Newbie
November 12, 2014 at 11:36 PM
If the statistics are to be believed, a huge number of Korean girls work in jobs providing sexual favors (IIRC it is something around a whopping 20% of all women between 15 and 29; the illegal sex business being as large as 4% of the annual gross domestic product, which is as much as Korea's fishing and agriculture combined).
I must admit, that the idea never crossed my mind regarding Young Yi, but who knows, this show adresses so many problems of the Korean society, they might even pick this one up.
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newbie
November 13, 2014 at 8:26 AM
ive wathed the manwha/webtoon a bit, but she used to be in a big company trained as a executive?
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7 ultramarineblue
November 12, 2014 at 1:48 PM
Thanks for the recap!!
Ahhh, I don't know what I'll do when this show ends cuz I love it so much. I'm loving the progress on everyone's end except Baek-ki who really needs a wake up call and to STOP HURTING GEU-RAE. Good god I felt like slapping him when he just keeps putting down Geu-rae; you'd think he has enough problems of his own. On that end, I do agree with his superior. Baek-ki kept asking for tasks but scorned the ones he was given so what was his superior supposed to do? Reward him for his snobbery and being distracted by the progress and other interns?....I do have to admit that my dislike is being amplified by my protective instinct for Geu-rae. Sales Team 3 Fighting!! <3 <3
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rinoak
November 12, 2014 at 5:21 PM
I agree to all of that. Also, why can't Baek ki and Geu rae become friends? I keep expecting something to turn things around and get them to like each other but so far, nothing. I love the show but stop making me sad!
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Kennedy Rose
November 13, 2014 at 4:22 AM
BK is just being jealous. There he is..the superior guy with the best resume and all he did is sitting on his chair twiddling his thumbs. then, there's our little duckling. 'useless', naive and have nothing to boast about his education or work experiences..GR does a lot of work..he's busy busy busy, helping his team on projects and you can see how he's getting better at his job..even BK's supervisor seemed to acknowledge him.
So, the best BK can do to bring down GR from the clouds is talk down to him, to remind him that he's still that clueless kid. nothing changes.
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8 Nessie
November 12, 2014 at 1:50 PM
I love how Seok-Yul is slowly joining Sales Team 3 unofficially. Young-yi was always a member already since Chief Oh just adores her, but he kinda earned/squeezed his way through. It's kinda like Chief's Oh just decided, might as well use all the resources we can to get this contract through!
The health issue is very important, and I liked how they linked it with Geu-rae running and remembering his teachers words, while ending with Chief Oh in the hospital. Quite a contrast, but much a reality these days at work, not only in the corporate world but any job. When you're a parent with worries of children and the whole family, you pretty much have no time for yourself.
My fav part though is the worry our puppy had when he was looking for Chief Oh with Dong-shik. Chief Oh has pretty much cemented himself into our puppy's heart. You can tell he was so close to tears, it's one of the many reminders of how far they've come.
Didn't young-yi possible call that man on the phone, "father"? (If he was the same one who just met her) Or was the translation wrong? My speculation is Young-yi's family/parents are probably rich, and she maybe worked under their company. Something happened and her 'dad" might've stood up for her, clearing the issue and this annoyed her as she wanted to be treated by the staff normally, not as the boss's daughter. I haven't seen her prequel, so I could be way off.
If that man is her father, then it's interesting to see the contrast between her relationship with him, while we see Geu-rae's memory of his own father.
Thanks for the recap odilettante!
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changhyun
November 12, 2014 at 2:45 PM
I believe she did say something like "Not now Father/Dad"
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tweetpandora
November 12, 2014 at 3:00 PM
Yes, I had the exact same thoughts about Young Yi's background with you, daughter from a rich family who wants to climb up the company ladder on her own merit, she did call that man 'father'
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Aigoooo
November 12, 2014 at 3:17 PM
Hmmm... I dunno about the rich family background. Well. at least her dad is not Chaebol rich since he did not have some kind of assistant or entourage in tow. Or maybe I just watch too many dramas. lol
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Pearl~ai88
November 12, 2014 at 9:51 PM
From what I saw in her preview, I'm pretty sure her family is very poor rather than rich. And I thought the man she saw at the company was not her dad?
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thursdaynexxt
November 13, 2014 at 1:30 AM
"I love how Seok-Yul is slowly joining Sales Team 3 unofficially."
Haha, nuthin' gradual about it - he jumps right in there with them every chance he gets, like a mascot! Especially with his hairstyle, I keep seeing him as a dog with floppy ears...
But seriously, I luff him right now. When he said he wanted to help Baek Ki too, that was really sweet. But then he said that Baek Ki can't be helped, hehe! True pragmatist, that one.
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Kennedy Rose
November 13, 2014 at 4:25 AM
i think the guy in the lobby is her ex-boss or something, not her father. if i am not mistaken, the prequel showed that YY's dad might be in the military which is why she has trouble making friends due to constantly moving. well, at least i think so, coz at the end of the prequel, YY was shown climbing into a military jeep...
ooh, i wonder what's going on with that girl.
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Nissa
November 13, 2014 at 8:16 PM
Me too think about this alter story about Young yi instead of her being a hostess in a club.
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9 Jeremy Tee
November 12, 2014 at 1:52 PM
I believed that new guy will clash with sales team 3 a lot and that is office life as the show tries to put what is going in actual offise life in the show
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10 jomo143
November 12, 2014 at 1:57 PM
Thanks for the recap.
Awesome episode.
I actually cheered then teared up when they won that contract. This show has me by the heart!
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11 casserole
November 12, 2014 at 1:58 PM
My first thought today was- Only two more days til Misaeng! Yes, this show has got a hold on me. The casting is so spot on that I would watch them try to sell me a blender. :-) Thanks for the recap!
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12 hyperbutterfly89
November 12, 2014 at 2:09 PM
Lee Sung-Min & Kim Seul-Gi should play a father & daughter duo with dark circles under their eyes :D the last pic in the recap made me realize the similarities between them they have big infectious personalities :D
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hyperbutterfly89
November 12, 2014 at 2:13 PM
And I can't remember correctly but is the new guy in the team the same one Geu Rae was chasing in Jordan or am I wrong???
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growingbeautifully
November 12, 2014 at 4:27 PM
Hi hyperbutterfly89
I thought it was at first but on checking it out, no. That was a different person named Mr Seo. However Seo could well be connected to this new member of Team 3. Something shady and dark in both.
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hyperbutterfly89
November 13, 2014 at 6:30 AM
Hi Growingbeautifully, thanks fir the reply. I definitely got that shady vibe from him and that's why I thought he might be the on from the first episode. I guess he might lead us to that guy especially that they are starting to lead us towards that story
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Aigoooo
November 12, 2014 at 3:56 PM
I'd watch it! Those two have a way of putting a smile to my face every time I see them on screen.
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Zogzog
November 12, 2014 at 7:04 PM
I would watch it too!
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hyperbutterfly89
November 13, 2014 at 6:33 AM
I would looooove to watch them together I think they would be great together their duo would kind of remind me of the same chemistry and lively personalities of father--saughter duo Sung Dong-Il and Jung Eun-Ji in Reply 1997
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thursdaynexxt
November 13, 2014 at 1:34 AM
Brilliant idea! They could play a father-daughter musical theatre duo, or maybe a travelling circus act?
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hyperbutterfly89
November 13, 2014 at 6:33 AM
I would watch them doing anything together :D
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Y.
November 13, 2014 at 8:49 AM
They could be reading, IDK, the phone book or something like that, and I would watch it because I'm sure it would be awesome.
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13 cingdoc
November 12, 2014 at 2:17 PM
I just can't stop loving Chief Oh.... Every day, it seems, he has to battle what he wants to accomplish, not with trickery but with his well guarded principle. Yes, it might not pan out and once again he gets the scoldings from his superior . He even felt dejected but a cute phone call from his son, his reason to work hard, and he quickly reminded himself to stop feeling down and soildiers on.... Chief Oh and Team 3- HWAITING ...
( of course, the( unrealistic( never in the real world )) of sweet bonus that Mrs Moon APPRECIATED round 2 is welcomed by all ??
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14 CaroleMcDonnell
November 12, 2014 at 2:29 PM
Thanks for the recap. I love how we see how physically weak Baek Ki is...Did his little manly throat get all stressed out that easily? He better not be frail. He seems as if he'd be stronger than Geu Rae but nah.
Again that Korean salaryman drinking culture is freaking me out!
Interestingly, I find it so sweet how Chief Oh is so gentle with Seuk Yul. He's never said a harsh word to him. I want an episode where we see Seuk Yul's workl..or at least see his charm at work.
Am nursing a maor crush on Geu Rae --or is it Si Wan?
Thanks for the recap.
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changhyun
November 12, 2014 at 2:48 PM
The show kind of over exaggerates how much they drink in the Korean corporate world but it definitely does exist although more and more companies are toning it down & also it isn't legal to FORCE drinks anymore (although you probably wouldn't want to reject a drink from your superior haha)
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owl 🦉 🫰
November 12, 2014 at 2:53 PM
The Korean drinking culture is really something else - makes for a short unhealthy (and often unhappy) life it seems. It is hard on everyone. I read recently that S Korea has the highest per capita drinking rate, followed by Russia, but it was a distant second. Along with that is the hierarchy system on many levels in Korea where one can hardly help but be sucked in by the salary man culture and system. this show portrays that so well.
Geu Rae haunts me with his thoughts of what did he do for 26 years when in reality he has tucked away a lifetime of lessons and advice from mentors who left an impression somehow. He certainly is clever to put all those nuggets of wisdom to use, and the fact that he can laterally transfer that wisdom is a skill in itself. The back stories are slowly being woven into the drama - i like that.
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15 changhyun
November 12, 2014 at 2:44 PM
I really enjoyed this episode because of the heaps of character development it gave us. Regarding Jang Geu Rae and Baek Ki, it's not a classic love triangle in the sense that both males are simply duking it out for the girl, but it's all pretty realistic. It helps with the fact that these characters are so well fleshed out.
I'm rooting for JGR more and more as he becomes more adept in the office but of course is still the underdog. Just like when he shed a tear when he couldn't do anything to help Chief Oh, he still has no real power. But the fact that he's using his strengths (baduk experience/humility/willingness to learn) and learning the ropes shows he has great potential. Personally, I'm still wondering about his connections that got him into the company, you guys remember when the Executive Director greeted the newbies but just passed over JGR? Wondering the significance of that.
Young-yi is a perplexing character because we know that she's a hard worker, she lets her hair down and eats ramen and works overnight at home and sometimes in the office but for what? To get yelled at and belittled by her misogynistic, sexist coworkers. She double majored and is seriously awesome but she's a deep character. I'm seriously wondering what happened between her father and her. @zafinah's comment on this thread sounds very plausible, but I also don't see why her dad would look so distressed when seeing her (that was her dad right?) or why she suddenly started spacing out after seeing him. Huh.
A great point was raised up when mentioning Baek ki, I thought his boss was sort of an asshole and at the same time I thought Baek Ki was really proud and was just the antagonist. But this episode made me realize that his boss was quite fair and is obviously really good at his job (Seok-yul comments about how awesome the dude is). It makes sense to start from the beginning, even though Baek Ki thinks (and is) overqualified for what he is doing, he still has to learn what's acceptable and how their team works. It's not a one man show. His thinking contrasts how Sales Team 3 works. His logic is that a salary man is only about getting promotions + a salary and maybe the glory/prestige that comes with it. Thus he wants to make a name for himself and stand out. Yet ST3 works as a team, are selfless and may not have the best performance and yet do everything together and take the hits together too. Loving the writers for this drama and hope the quality stays high over the course of this show, it's seriously amazing.
Can't wait for the episodes this week, the new character looks interesting (and I've seen him so many times before!) and I'm wondering what his connections are too. Thanks for the recap!
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16 tweetpandora
November 12, 2014 at 2:54 PM
I so loved this episode, it was such a refreshing for change for the solution to the sleezebag client problem being funny and positive, I don't think I could have taken another crushed Chief Oh! I am also loving the fact that Geu Rae is coming out of his shell, the tiny giggles when he found out what Chief Oh had done were just priceless. Am also getting intrigued with Young Yi's past. Am still absolutely loving these series, my friends and I are literally telling everyone we can to watch it! :-D
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Kennedy Rose
November 13, 2014 at 4:33 AM
I always fell off my chair laughing at Mr. Oh's attempt to get out of the deal with mr. mun. i mean, getting sick together? i was laughing hysterically at the sight of these three musketeers squatting and staring at the spoilt milk. even if it was his idea, mr. oh is not really brave enough to down that milk, heh. and i think it's cute that GR told him that he didn't finish off his milk. hahahaha.
oh, and i just love that innocent face of GR. it takes a while for him to understand why mr. oh hates mr. mun..and dong shik is not really telling it straight to the point.
goodness. i simply love ST3! i really hope the new guy do not do anything to jeopardize the team. he looks..i dunno.. arrogant? and he's definitely not mr. seo from E1. that guy was shorter and has a mole on his cheek.
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17 Aigoooo
November 12, 2014 at 3:50 PM
This show has turned out to be a great ensemble piece. I don't even feel like Geu Rae is the lead anymore since I am equally invested with all the other characters. I just hope the show can keep it up and has enough time to give backstories to all the wonderful characters and also answer all these mysteries (Geu Rae's connection with the director, the tension between Manager Oh and the director, etc..).
Thanks for the recap!
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18 Javier
November 12, 2014 at 3:50 PM
I guess I'm in the minority on this show but it just isn't doing it for me. I really enjoyed the first couple episodes while they were still interns but since then I've found the show to be a bit boring. I'm not a huge fan of the "Slice of life" genre which this show has been adhering to so far so hopefully things pick up again next week.
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Jon G.
November 13, 2014 at 2:56 AM
I seriously doubt that the show will move to a different genre anytime soon. If you don't like it now, I think you can safely drop it.
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19 jandoe
November 12, 2014 at 4:21 PM
OMG odilettante love everything you wrote in your comments section! I agree with everything :)
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20 growingbeautifully
November 12, 2014 at 4:23 PM
Thanks for the recap odilettante!
What I continue to appreciate about this show is that it remembers to interject the humor in the midst of the tension. I found it downright hilarious with Young Yi finally roped in to rehearse their battle plans, and speedily giving the most sensible and practical advice of the lot!
I enjoyed the theme of having your cake and eating it.
Chief Oh needed to get that deal and yet maintain his principles, and illustrating that in a childlike way was his own son on the phone. Son wants chicken done 1 way (spicy?) but when asked how about fried chicken, he then wants fried chicken and then both or half-and-half :D and sweet daddy Oh goes along with it all the way.
So funny and so true and so much like me (us?). And the deal sealed was not just a half-and-half but a double. So satisfying!
I'm glad Chief Oh used his brains, resourcefulness and hard work and found the way to succeed, finally, in this space of his worklife that we've been privy to, however we are thrown once again back into 'real life' - success does not mean we get what we want.
And so we now have the arrival of a Jordan "export contract legend" into Team 3,... a link to the 1st episode and chase of Mr Seo? Amazing how interesting mundane life is!!
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21 ALikat
November 12, 2014 at 4:31 PM
Dude the new guy is the same person in episode 1 that they were chasing. I can't wait to see what leads up to that chase 0.0
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growingbeautifully
November 13, 2014 at 6:34 AM
The new guy is actually a different guy. I played both episodes side by side and paused at the guys to check on them.
But yes, we seem to be getting to the Middleast slowly and to that mysterious spy-like chase.
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22 PeepsLeAwesomePotato
November 12, 2014 at 4:36 PM
I haven't watched this episode. I wish I could. But I can't because I'm all exhausted out from work. Is that an irony or what?
I kind of understand where BaekKi is coming from, since I think so much like him. The difference is that I don't act like him. BaekKi is like my (unrealised) first reaction. For all his (own perceived) smartness, BaekKi is really rash. He doesn't dig deeper. (Although in this case, his direct superior is also partly at fault. It's nice to want to make someone realise something for himself but it doesn't always work out that way, since people's thoughts are always constrained by their own understanding and way of thinking. Sometimes, an alternative perspective needs to be explicitly stated. That's why we have the word 'Epiphany'.)
Fighting, Jang BaekKi! I'm rooting for you!
(I don't really think BaekKi's harming GeuRae. Sure, he's full of his passive-aggressive shit but he doesn't really dump anything on GeuRae that GeuRae can't handle or deflect. In real life, anyone would have to be able to handle that much.
I also don't think that BaekKi is trying to 'get into YoungYi's pants' as another comment-or had written. I'm more inclined to believe that he just wants to get into her good graces - because the ambitious are prone to admiring highly capable peers and tend to want to get them on their side.)
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thursdaynexxt
November 13, 2014 at 1:57 AM
Yup, the first thing I thought was: so the Baek Ki bomb has finally exploded. Dear oh dear, talk about opening your mouth wide and shoving your foot right in!
I don't mind Assistant Manager Kang - I'm not quite sure what to make of the reactions from the other teammates, but he seems he seems like a man of few words and even less smiles, but a man of integrity. I think he even admitted that his method of teaching may not be the best way, but that's just his way, or something along those lines?
One really basic thing that Baek Ki has overlooked - surely the first thing he should try to learn is: how to fit into your team.
Honestly, when Baek Ki shoved that document on his female coworker's desk, I wasn't impressed. He had the same dismissive reaction to the shy Assistant Manager Park (in Ep 6), too.
It's nice that they contrasted it directly with Young-yi's decision to be a team player and play the supporting role this time round. I think it was an interesting choice on her part, but I hope it makes an impression on immature douchebag Assistant Manager Ha!
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Jon G.
November 13, 2014 at 2:54 AM
Yep, the assistant basically admitted that he was aware of Baek-ki's missunderstanding him, but he didn't care. He seems to be convinced that it was Baek-ki's job to figure out Kang's style of personel management.
Of course, Baek-ki is not even trying to adapt. He knows that he is good, he feels entitled to be an important member of his team by default.
Young-yi, on the other hand, got her wind taken out of the sails from the get go, thanks to her miso team. I'm not sure she decided to be a docile team player, because she requested that the assistant DOES the job now, while she keeps the mundane stuff away from him. That seems like a bit of a passive-aggressive move.
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thursdaynexxt
November 13, 2014 at 4:31 AM
I was trying to figure out how Kang's regarded/respected by his coworkers by their reactions, but they aren't giving much away!
Yes, although Baek Ki's an elite, he's still the newest and youngest in the team. He gives the others advice, but thinks the rules don't apply to him?! I'm looking forward to his growth spurt. And I'm secretly hoping Seok-yul will be the one to teach him a few things!
I'm also not convinced that Young-yi's as meek and mild as she sounds about the project. It's certainly a clever tactical move, since he'd be working on her idea, so he'd be forced to continue working with her and acknowledge her as part of the team. It also gives him a stake in the outcome and gives him an incentive to do well, and not screw up the job!
Whatever her motives, and whether it turns out good or bad, Young-yi will no doubt own her decision and bear the responsibility. She's not the type to blame it on other people or on pure bad luck.
I just want to see more Chief Oh + Young-yi moments!
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Jon G.
November 13, 2014 at 5:34 AM
I think Seok-yul is the only "hope" for Baek-ki right now. Baek-ki is too biased right now because of Geu-rae's seemingly seamless integration into Sales-3, and he cannot accept advice from Young-yi, which leaves only Seok-yul. Who doesn't mind hanging around with a miserable Baek-ki and might find a way to crack his armour.
"I just want to see more Chief Oh + Young-yi moments!"
You mean a love triangle between Geu-rae - Chief Oh - Young-yi? I'm all in!
thursdaynexxt
November 13, 2014 at 12:29 PM
I watched the prequels and the trailers - there's a really cute one of all 4 rookies waiting anxiously for their instant ramyun to cook: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WI-GdRBp0E.
That's what I wanna see! Plus the Chief Oh triangle, of course! :)
nan
November 13, 2014 at 4:56 PM
This is totally off topic, but I seriously don't understand the Korean ramyun habit. Yes, it tastes good, but whenever I bring ramyun for lunch, I get hungry an hour later. It's just carbs and salt. I need protein...
23 flowerlady
November 12, 2014 at 4:39 PM
The meeting in the conference was spectacular! Everyone was a genius to conquer CEO Moon before round two, they even used iced tea..Brilliant team work with Sales Team 3 and Young yi and Seok yul.
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24 happybyul
November 12, 2014 at 5:00 PM
IT'S HERE IT'S HERE IT'S HERE IT'S HERE THANK GOD
good lord, I'm pretty sure this has been my favorite episode of any show I've ever watched so far
The wittiness, the jokes, the emotion, and how damn smart Manager Oh was to get his wife to come are so on spot that I was awestruck
And omfg him saying "Let's.....be sick" made me guffaw so much. It's like they're in elementary school again:D
There are so many other things I love that I'm sure other people will touch on, so to end, thank you javabeans and dramabeand for recapping this genius of a show^^
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25 happybyul
November 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM
SORRY ABOUT THAT I meant odilettante:D FIGHTING!
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26 kil
November 12, 2014 at 6:54 PM
I really dislike Assistant Manager Kang. Its true that while he may have been trying to teach Baek Ki a lesson, the way he is going about it is all wrong. He's acting like a pissy girlfriend who expects the boyfriend to read her mind and know what she's angry about. No one will know if you don't say anything about it!
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avay
November 12, 2014 at 8:00 PM
I do agree that Assistant Manager Kang should have actually talked to Baek Ki about what he did wrong, and his expectations for him as an employee within the Steel team. However, I think that Baek Ki blew his chance here. The manager who wouldn't give him the time of day was finally starting to acknowledge him and give him work - sure, it's menial work but he should have been smart enough to see it for what it was, an opening. If he had had a little bit more patience and humility, he would have worked his way into his team's acceptance like Geurae.
Also, let's be real here. Without interns, menial tasks like creating excel sheets and proofreading usually fall to the newest employees. That would have been a part of Baek Ki's job anyway.
It's also a big no-no to have such a dramatic flare-up in the workplace. I understand his frustration but he should have had enough self-restraint to ask the manager for a private conversation.
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Kennedy Rose
November 13, 2014 at 4:48 AM
that's why mr oh said BK is being too hasty. if you think about it, mr. kang is trying to teach BK a lesson about humility and patience. he did said the steel industry is different..it's more conservative and focused on long term goals. seems to me he wants to say that the steel department must take it slow and easy.. a trait people like BK don't have.
BK needs to look around and learn from others. YY is treated badly by her co-workers yet she still plough on with quiet dignity..readily be humbled just to survive. so's GR. he's been yelled at, punished, ridiculed at..his dignity was crushed..yet he, like YY, humbly accepted the fact that he's there to learn. patience is a virtue. BK needs that and i didn't see any interactions between BK and the others in the steel dept. he kept to himself. surely, he could try to fit in and humbled himself to ask around about what he could do. pride..that what's BK has too much of. he thinks he's too good to be doing basics. he should learn something from GR.. the useless guy who's now quite a reliable guy in his team. now, if GR could do it, why not you, BK?
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missaeng
November 13, 2014 at 9:29 AM
Just a thought while watching, but did anyone think that the excel files and proofreading documents were documents for Baekhee to actually read and learn from and not just go through them for mistakes or inputing into excel? Hence Assistant Manager Kang asks what Baekhee has learned so far, and that he has given him many chances.
I mean, I work at a company in Seoul and my bosses try and give me proofread or translating work for documents related to projects and ones I should read.
A simple and subtle way to teach Baekhee a lesson. I think it's a great way for a mentor to teach while making Baekhee find it on his own. Especially for a team like the steel team.
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meowingme
November 12, 2014 at 8:03 PM
Oh, am so glad somebody feels the same way! My thought is he is an undercover bully, but pissy girlfriend is suitable too. He kept saying that he knows what kind of person Baek Ki is, but if that's the case he should know that "teaching" Baek Ki his way will only cause him to break. Not too mention he keeps saying it's ok for Baek Ki too quit; althought not as bad as Young Yi's douchebag of a sunbae, the end result is the same, out of the team.
And on the bullying note, i think the biggest bully is executive director...
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27 Adal
November 12, 2014 at 7:35 PM
Gotta love Chief Oh in this episode. His adherence to his belief in marital fidelity so rare in today's world of adulterous relationships along with his refusal to compromise his beliefs have won my deep, profound, respect.
Call me old fashioned, but I found the majority of characters lack of shock for the request of 'round 2' disturbing to say the least, even Geu Rae felt that Chief Oh should have compromised his convictions for the good of the team. I know that in many countries such a thing is just business as usual, and in many others, it is frowned upon (as is the case in One International) but I can just imagine if such a thing is done in Corporate America, and it hits the press, such a company would have a field day trying to survive). I'm not naive enough to believe that it isn't done in the US and other Western European countries, I just highly doubt it's done so openly.
Congratulations Chief Oh, you've certainly earned those dried eels and more, and we can chalk this up to another out of the box thinking by Chief Oh. It says a lot about the Asian culture (no disrespect intended) that all the previous Salesmen automatically assumed that the husband was in charge of decision making for the company. Only Chief Oh dug a little deeper to find that the wife actually ran things behind the scenes, but then of course, he had the motivation to do so.
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dfwkimchi
November 13, 2014 at 10:52 AM
Chief Oh was continuing to use the lesson learned from the previous episode of - "Sometimes assume the obvious and miss a big thing."
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28 Pearl~ai88
November 12, 2014 at 10:07 PM
I know everyone says this every week, but my favorite episode yet! I just don't think I could love Chief Oh any more than I already do, except I probably will by next episode.
On a side note, I was trolling around youtube looking for Misaeng videos to tide me over until the next episodes and happened to watch the prequels. I couldn't find them with subtitles but the visuals were extremely effective. My favorite was Geu-Rae's, both because it was the only one where the same actor played the character, and because it was chock full of that heatbreaking pathos and dreamy-ness that I adore about Misaeng and especially about GR's character. The others were interesting but did not hit me in the same way. Although Seok-yul's was just adorable! I'm glad Someone had a happy childhood in our cast :)
Speaking of, I saw SY's actor, Byun Yo-han, in the script reading and interviews, and he is actually pretty cute! I was sort of shocked by how pretty he is because he's so greasy and dorky on the show and I thought he was generally unattractive. That hairstyle is perfect for his character but certainly does him no favors fashion wise, lol. It's amazing what a hair cut can do :)
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thursdaynexxt
November 13, 2014 at 1:40 AM
Yes, loved the prequel with Im Siwan! That elevator game was really touching. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a subbed version, so the guard/janitor's words were kinda lost on me :(
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29 coby
November 12, 2014 at 10:37 PM
I love this show and Chief Oh is awesome. Its good to see also that Mr. Kang told Baek-ki the reason why he is being treated that way. Young-yi's superiors' are the worst.
One thing that surprised me about this show is my expectation on Geu-rae's character. I thought he will have moments that he messed up with work or he'll be yelled by Chief Oh once in a while, but he is not. He seems pretty reliable.
Can't wait to see the continuation of the chase. I hope Geu-rae will not fall from that window.
Thanks for the recap!
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30 Newbie
November 12, 2014 at 11:55 PM
Never have I loved Mr. Oh more, than when he (again) started to fight for his principles. This is a man after my taste. My family's credo is, that you have to be able to look into your eyes in the mirror every morning. Mr. Oh seems to follow the same idea.
Never have I been more worried about Mr. Oh, than in those scenes when he was at breaking point. Take care of your health! We are not ready to lose you.
I'm still unsure, whether this show will give us a 'real' love story (Mr. Oh and Geu Rae being the true OTP), but did anyone else feel, that the random movie date showed zilch chemistry between Baek Ki and Young Yi?
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31 growingbeautifully
November 13, 2014 at 1:55 AM
Another theme that has been explored a little is that of pushing ahead as opposed to giving in gracefully (a strategic retreat perhaps) as seen in Baek Ki and Young Yi and the different ways they have of handling their work. It was Baek Ki who gave Young Yi the advice to give in, but he did not take it himself.
Sometimes giving in, letting go and bending is better than standing firm or pushing ahead and breaking.
I hope Chief Oh thinks of that too when it comes to his health.
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32 thursdaynexxt
November 13, 2014 at 2:09 AM
@ Growingbeautifully - ah, I see we were commenting along the same lines (I commented up at 22.1).
It was indeed Baek Ki who told Young Yi to "drop it", and part of me (cynically) wonders whether a part of him didn't want to see her succeed ahead of him. He certainly looks out for her in his way, but his insecurity and desperation at being "left behind" are increasingly palpable.
When Chief Oh was snoring away in the hospital, he looked like a Korean Homer Simpson! I laughed then, but I'm scared too...
As for the spoilt milk, all I can say is, ewww, gross!
(still, if he's strong enough to suffer zero side effects from that, then his constitution must be pretty strong!)
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Jon G.
November 13, 2014 at 2:40 AM
Yep, Baek-ki's interest in Young-yi is a double-edged sword for him. He seems to want her to see him as a person who can help her, console her, but he gets bitter when she sees him as vulnerable. See last episode's "don't console me" scene. Male pride. I've been there.
His advice to "drop it" might be a cynical double-attack on that issue: Tell her that she should be more compliant (or submissive), and at the same time pointing out that this is not her style.
She (involuntarily?) rubs more salt into his wounds when HE is the one who freaks out on the horror movie.
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thursdaynexxt
November 13, 2014 at 4:33 AM
LOL, I laughed when his voice squeaked after the movie!
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growingbeautifully
November 13, 2014 at 6:21 AM
Hi Thursdaynexxt and Jon G.
I'm looking at what you've said from 22.1 on...
On being a team-player and managers helping their team members:
Dong Shik said it's a team effort and we've sometimes got to do what we've got to do, even when we don't like it.
Young Yi decided that "what beats a strong spear is not a stronger spear or a shield" (but to know how to side step?). As for being supportive or docile or passive-aggressive? ... as you say a 'tactical move'... a strategic retreat is great for looking like we're giving in while we recoup and get someone else to do the work :D while we appear to be cheering them on?
(As for Young Yi with Baek Ki on Sunday, she seemed to enjoy poking him with more horror while keep a straight face. It was a rollicking fun episode from the beginning.)
And then we have the great example of Sales Team 3 who are real team players, especially with Chief Oh deciding to go ahead to seal the deal to get more staff into his team, although it was against his principles.
The non-team players: Asst Mgr Kang who wants to put Baek Ki in his place instead of mentoring him. Suggesting that he can quit, seems not at all in the spirit of building the team, especially in a supervisor.
We have Baek Ki who is too arrogant and hasty. I agree that his behavior is shockingly bad in a newbie and in the one who is younger (especially in Korean/Asian culture). Kang could have told him off for his rudeness, but it is interesting that he remained calm throughout and that really gets Baek Ki even more worked up. More of his style of management - aggressive quiescence?
And Misogynist Ha was told to think of the team, but although this forces him to take on the project for his dept. he wants in alone and not as part of a team of 2 with Young Yi.
Yes, I'd like lots of these adults to grow up and it would be great if they helped the younger ones along as well.
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Jon G.
November 13, 2014 at 7:25 AM
Dong-shik is somewhat strange in his combination of absolute loyalty to Chief Oh, cynical disillusion towards any kind of ethics (the way he "complimented" the dep. manager in a recent episode on that) and desperation for being stuck with an understaffed loser team like Sales-3. It's "cheap" for him to talk about team efforts.
Young-yi's shield-spear reference: Does the maodun paradoxon exist in Korean culture?
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Jon G.
November 13, 2014 at 7:34 AM
Okay, I looked it up, "contradiction" is mosun in Korean, which is "spear"+"shield" in Hanja.
thursdaynexxt
November 13, 2014 at 1:21 PM
@Growingbeautifully: yes, though I felt like we got less direct baduk analogies than usual about strategy, it was great to see the newbies putting their plans into action and finding out more of the nuances of office life/politics!
As for Sales Team 3 being real team players - you can't get much tighter than risking collective team food poisoning, right?! (truly, that could've been nasty. I'm glad it didn't work, and that they were okay)
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growingbeautifully
November 13, 2014 at 6:30 AM
@ Jon G.
Male pride - if Baek Ki is just interested in Young Yi as long as she's a compliant female, and Young Yi is getting this drift, then let the double edge sword get him good!
Wives and girlfriends are fortunately not all portrayed as doormats and I trust that Young Yi won't let the expectations of men determine how she responds to them.
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Jon G.
November 13, 2014 at 7:10 AM
I don't think Baek-ki would be interested in Young-yi if she wasn't the strong women she is. It's just that it is difficult for him to be seen as weak, or weaker than her (especially by her).
I felt that his advice to her to give in while mentioning that's not her style was just as conflicted as he himself is right now. One the one hand, it's a compliment to her for her determination, but on the other hand, always trying to appear strong is a weakness in itself.
Baek-ki prefers to think that Kang hates him (probably because he is so strong) than admitting to himself that he is just a trainee who still has to learn a lot.
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thursdaynexxt
November 13, 2014 at 12:39 PM
Still, that comment, "why do you hate me?" really made him sound just like he was in the primary school playground!
Jon G.
November 13, 2014 at 1:13 PM
True. But the things you are most vulnerable to are the things that make you act very immature.
33 Plus 9
November 13, 2014 at 2:21 AM
I felt sad and laugh in this episode. Fighting Team Sales 3!!!! Fighting Misaeng!!!!
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34 y2k3000
November 13, 2014 at 4:16 AM
I love that the author is using so many baduk parallels for each one of the character's office predictaments and episodes. I wonder which baduk strategy this one matches up with?
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35 mk
November 13, 2014 at 5:48 AM
According to Baek ki's resume(the scene BK was about to send an e-mail to a head hunter)..
- He graduated Seoul National University(the best university in Korea)
- Majored in Geman Language and Literature, GPA 4.34/4.5
- Market Competitor Researcher of British Casual Brands in LF Fashion (One of the biggest company in Korea)
- Intern for Future Energy Solution Project in GL Electronics
- President of M.A.R.P (One of the biggest Strategic marketing association for university students in Korea, founded in 1992)
- Exchange Student in De La Salle University, Paris, France
And introduction about BK says "He was praised for even crawling when he was a baby, and praise never had left him before"
BK is really a man of talent, and he knows it. too much. (And i think the reason BK is interested in Young-Yi is because he thinks she's the same level of himself, same kind of person.) And then, suddenly Geu Rae is in front of him, who has nothing but GED, exceeding him. I can understand how BK feels now..
But he really needs to learn something, because this company is full of men of talent, he's not that much special here.
Anyway, did you see Mr.Oh's blushing when DS talks about dried eel and his 4th child? Haha, so cute!
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mk
November 13, 2014 at 5:52 AM
And who expects some bromance in Misaeng, check this out:
http://youtu.be/B7gZJGc27Qc
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36 Dorotka
November 13, 2014 at 6:12 AM
Thank you for the recap.
I liked your point about Assistant Manager Kang - we indeed only saw Baek Ki's part of the story.
Though I'm glad we are finally! getting AM Kang's part as well ;--) .
This is actually one thing (one of many) I like on this drama - we are given only a partial info about our characters and like in real life we form an opinion which can be wrong (because we only know/see a part). Like with Seok Yul - in the beginning I didn't like him at all... and now... what a change :--)
PS Only one day till the next episode!! :--)
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37 Appelsin
November 13, 2014 at 6:15 AM
I was moved by this episode. I have been involved so many times in the dynamics of winning contracts and entertain clients, so I know well about having to drink without wanting it, and how these things end up sometimes.
Being a woman, I had to endure harassment and retire before they went to other places to seal the deal. I found it disgusting. But seeing a guy that has issues with it gives me hope in humanity again :)
To say the truth, I never thought that many guys would reject these kind of practices, I hope it is like this in real life and I was wrong. Chief Oh is my new hero.
I also feel sorry for Baek Ki. He might not be patient but, as a newbie, they are supposed to teach him, not to ignore him and put him down. What would they expect from him? This is a world where we are told that the most talented is the one to survive, so it is natural that he tries to show his skills from the beginning. And his boss attitude is hostile, I would also feel that the boss is scared of me and that I would only get excel sheets to format for the rest of my life there.
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38 enkeys
November 13, 2014 at 3:32 PM
I thought Mr Oh had sent some ajumma in place of a young girl to sleep with Mr Mun, just so that he can teach Mr Mun some lesson for being a playboy. Mr Oh is so smart.
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newbie
November 14, 2014 at 2:33 AM
the ajumma is actually mr.muns wifee!
and his wife has actual authority in muns company.
so good for both :P
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39 Jungyi
November 13, 2014 at 5:54 PM
Ironically, I actually find Baek Ki and Gu Rae in the same situation. Gu rae when he first started working and Baek Ki when he first started becoming an official staff. Both Superiors were reluctant to teach the newbie.
However what made Gu rae rise up was that he was willing to humble himself, willing to learn however small it is and takes in everything as a life lesson. Baek Ki however thought he had all the basics done in school had didn't need more learning but application and success in work life. But life is all learning and I think that's what his boss was trying to teach him. That you can't get anywhere with just arrogance and ambition alone.
This show is so good in so many ways for my literature self. I'm loving Misaeng in more ways than I know. I usually skip all the slow parts in a slice of life show, but every moment is SO GOOD. I hope this show can win something though :(
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40 panshel
November 13, 2014 at 8:55 PM
Seok Yul is fastly becoming one of my favorite characters. I love Chief Oh's newfound, albeit reluctant, relationship with him. His game plan was brilliant. This type of street smarts is what he excels at. I groaned when nothing went as planned, but the twist at the end made up for it.
Damn, just their luck, the team gets someone Chief Oh hates. (But besides Young Yi, is there really anyone he likes?) Nothing ever goes their way. Chief Oh's plan in drinking rancid milk was ridiculous. Who in their right mind would purposely make his employees sick?
Show is really pushing the Young Yi x Baek Ki couple, aren't they? I am surprised all these ace interns majored in non-business majors. Young Yi Politics and Foreign Policy, and Baek Ki (from his resume) German and Literature. Did he have to meet his head-hunter so close to work?
Thanks for the recap, odilettante!
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maryse89
November 14, 2014 at 12:18 PM
Yeah, the Baek Ki German Literature major threw me for a loop as well... like, what exactly was he expecting to do with that degree? Haha
On the other hand, maybe just simply going to Seoul National University will get you into any job in Korea. Kind of like these kind of kids in the states who go to Harvard, major in art history, and somehow end up working at Goldman Sachs. Sigh...
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panshel
November 14, 2014 at 9:14 PM
Right? Everyone knows in a recession you don't major in liberal arts, or good luck ever being able to find a job. Makes me wonder whether it is extremely difficult to get into the business program in Korean universities. But like you said, you're guaranteed a job if you went to an Ivy League school.
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41 Marge
November 14, 2014 at 12:21 AM
Well written recap, odilettante. Makes this much clearer for me. :D Thanks for this
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42 Kennedy Rose
November 14, 2014 at 6:49 PM
hmmm.. it's on the news that there'll be no romance in this show.. so, give up on all those love theories. heh.
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43 youtube
December 8, 2014 at 12:33 PM
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44 pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
October 18, 2015 at 1:26 PM
Kang Sora in a moustache alone would make this worth the five stars, but Seok-yul......he makes me die a little with laughter every episode. Before the hair change, that is.
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45 ladma
September 7, 2016 at 6:40 AM
I really like Assistant Kang's approach to handling Baek-Ki. He is helping him by using his patient style which works in the Steel team. Unfortunately, Baek-Ki is too stubborn to see and unwilling to adapt which is a necessity in this type of office setting.
Baek-Ki should not have to have an 'Epiphany!' moment from Assistant Kang to understand why he's 'being iced out' and should have realized from the start when he was assigned this team. I actually think the Exec. Director made a great choice in assigning this team to Baek-Ki. If he can show some humility, he will go very far in the company instead of relying on his smarts and ambition to succeed.
Baek-Ki will have to come to an understanding that humility and humbleness goes a long way or he will be left behind.
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46 Mamas Boy
May 26, 2023 at 7:52 AM
CHIEF OH somehow reminds me of DR. HOUSE with his unkempt hair and disheveled look. 😂
Thanks for the recap and comments, odilettante!!! 💖
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47 Mamas Boy
May 26, 2023 at 8:12 AM
I just came from watching MR. SUNSHINE (a masterpiece!) and the actor who plays the man that Young-YI avoided at the lobby is the same actor who plays EMPEROR GOJONG in MR. SUNSHINE. It’s quite jarring to see the “emperor” in his new clothes here. =)
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