Episode 16 of IOTNBO has been by far the best final episode ever written. I didn’t want it to end, but now I’m ready to be adopted into the family. Where’s the line for the matching shirts??
I really dont appreciate that amount of abuse and hitting Moon Young goes through and then everyone just acts like its okay, like thank goodness Gang Tae’s always there to comfort her but WTF is wrong with everyone else in the show??? no matter how much of a bitch they think Moon Young is, she doesn’t deserve to be choked out or hit
she hit the guy because he was about to hit the girl, she was defending her. Every time Moon Young has been attacked, its been her protecting someone or completely unprovoked. Thats the difference
you think that photographer deserved it because he was making sexual insinuations..
What has she been doing with KT?
Editor exerts force to take her out of the house because she is having nightmares and it really unsettles her, he deserved her hitting him.. then what about her pulling KT
Just so many so so many such instances… KT shouldn’t take care of ST anymore, but hers? .. while she with her flaws is charming right now, it does not mean that she is not dangerous or always justified.. justifying all her actions is nothing less than raising and conditioning her to be a brat
I literally have no idea what youre talking about and you’re clearly biased because you don’t like Moon Young, the point i am making is that Moon Young doesn’t deserve to be hit AND neglected. As a child she was choked by her dad and abused by her mom. As an adult, she has been choked by a patient, choked by her dad, slapped by Juri, slapped by this abuser…..all of the instances of her being hit has never been acknowledged by any one nor as anyone thought “oh that’s kind of fycked up” instead they’re all doing what you’re doing. You are justifying being hit because you think she deserves it
I am just replying to your points where you justify her violence..
it is not me biased towards her character (because i am atleast using the same yardstick to judge different characters).. if you have to call out bias, you should call out your bias
Your point to which i replied was about MY and the man she hit.. on one hand you were giving reasons for why MY was right, but those same reasons are some behavior patterns that she herself has displayed which you ignored and i was merely pointing that..
So yea.. not my bias…but yours..and definitely this particular discussion was not about her childhood .. it was about her present actions and validity of it
Seriously I say this or think this every week. At least this time GT was there to ask her if shes ok. She normally has to pick herself up and walk away on her own to lick her wounds. This hospital id the literal worse.
Episode 6 of IOTNBO was heavy from start to finish, like I\’m actually shaking. I was so immersed at the end……..just know I\’m looking forward to the discussion post
What I find really interesting is that MY just wants GT to smile at her while with everyone else, he\’s faking or he\’s told to stop smiling…..he doesn\’t even bother faking it with her
Watched IOTNBO ep3, and the writers have done a great job continuously showing how dangerous Moon Young could be not just to herself, but to others. I feel like if anyone is surprised…..
by her actions this episode then they might have been trying hard to deny the multiple times its been stated that she has antisocial personality disorder. You can like her, bc I do, but episode 3 is a start of how she can be and will potentially continue to be, so it’ll be interesting to see how they lead into the romance, if they even get there at all
If there’s one trope I’ll always hate, it’s the “you got an abortion and now I no longer love you” some dramas love pulling now. Misty did it and so did Before We Get Married.
It’s like if the guy wants the abortion, sure it sucks for her, but the girl won’t stop loving him but if the girl wants it, she the most vile being in existence and is undeserving of love and respect after that. Hate it.
Wasn’t Misty a somewhat different case? There was a lack of communication, right? She got an abortion without telling him, right? I’m not sure I’m remembering it right. But if that’s the case, it makes sense to me. At the end of the day, she gets to do whatever she wants to do – her body, her decision – but the baby is equally theirs so the other party isn’t wrong for being hurt, angry and betrayed. She should have told him at least. I’d immediately distrust my SO who makes such a big decision without telling me. It’s our baby, let’s discuss it. You’ll still end up going through with the abortion but at least, I had a heads up and I had time to process it.
People should really discuss these things before they get married.
Yea, Misty was more she wasn’t ready for a baby because of her career and they didn’t communicate but my point is how writers use that as a reason for the man to hate the woman, like it leaves such a bad taste in my mouth cause at the end of the day it’s her decision and the way he and his mom treated her like she was some kind of monster for what she did is what pissed me off. I guess as a woman I just feel more understanding and tolerant towards abortion and I don’t like it being used in that trope. Kinda ironic that he treated her like a murderer for “killing” their baby only for him to become one….it’s not like she never wanted to have a baby, she just didn’t want one then.
I get that. I really do. A lot of times a woman who decided to get an abortion is treated like she’s a monster. I don’t like the sentiments behind it either.
On the other hand, there are also tropes that label men who don’t want their babies as being ‘dead-beat’ fathers. It’s kinda the same. Regardless of the woman’s choice, the man has to live with the decision whether or not he wants the kid.
The difference, though, is that the K-dramas always give them a redemption arc in which they meet their kid and bond.
I also see the similarities in matters of divorce. A woman who walks out without custody is made into the scariest demon after Satan himself. I
That’s just my observation.
I don’t watch this drama, but I have a question about this issue:
What if she decided to inform him about the decision to go through the abortion but he decided he wanted to keep the baby? Won’t it put her in a position where she will be forced to carry the baby to term against her will, knowing how taxing pregnancy and labor is to a woman?
That’s the thing though. These scenarios are not always black or white. I understand her not telling her husband. I don’t blame her. She didn’t want to have to be convinced to keep the baby especially because in this scenario, there was no indication that it was about having the baby. It was more of the timing.
At the same time, I don’t blame the husband for being mad at her. That’s why discussion is key. Having such conversations before marriage is key and having a dialogue is always key.
At the end of the day, it’s the woman’s decision. She can decide to keep the baby irregardless of the external opinions but it’d be difficult to say she can’t be pressured into keeping a baby she doesn’t want.
Thanks for the reply. I agree with what you said, especially about it being the woman’s decision.
However, depending on which part of the world the woman is in (take my Southeast Asian country for example), sometimes, she did not get to choose at all. So in such situation, I understand her motivation to do what she did.
I have been having the worst, and I mean the WORST, case of drama slump I\’ve ever had. Like nothing keeps my attention and after like 5-10mins I get bored of a drama & don\’t feel the need to continue.
That being said, through this struggle, I managed to binge-watch the 2018 remake of Rich Man, Poor Woman in 2 days and enjoyed every moment of it, so either the drama isn’t as bad as people made it seem or there’s something wrong with me lmao
Could the acting have been better in some parts? absolutely, but I genuinely enjoyed the ride and wish it was longer
I get like that from time to time. That’s when I try to watch other tv such as western tv or anime. Or you could rewatch old Kdramas. That helps me sometimes. I tend to watch something again and recognize actors I didn’t know when I originally watched it and then find their other works and fall in love with Kdramas again.
I’m watching HIStory 3: Make Our days count and I love it so much 😭 I’ve rewatched every episode at least 5 times. I think it’s the only drama really keeping entertained through this slump
Honestly, there’s something about these writers that make me want to watch the next episode – even with Trapped when it was completely going off the rails. 45 minutes a week can be excruciating.
the nerdy boy is acting his character as is lol he is supposed to be starving cause he doesn’t eat. he’s malnourished cause he’s poor. But the 5 min preview shows that as he and the “bully” fall in love, he opens up a lot more
Yes, but in 2 eps he’s had so many chances to be more than starving boy. Dramatic scenes like when he is cornered by the classmates, when he is begging to do the test, when he is asking for another job, but all he shows is indifferent or angry, and lots of hunger. Even bully, who has not much to work with, has a bigger range of emotions.
I’ve been watching this chinese drama and besides how corny the first 5 episodes were, its actually really good. Its a little like Jang Bo Ri but without the excessive theatrics
Valentina
August 9, 2020 at 9:24 AM
Episode 16 of IOTNBO has been by far the best final episode ever written. I didn’t want it to end, but now I’m ready to be adopted into the family. Where’s the line for the matching shirts??
Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
August 9, 2020 at 9:26 AM
Naemari naemari.
It wasn’t forced, fan service or just fluff. Till the end they showed the brothers’ growth as well as MY. I’m really grateful
Valentina
July 25, 2020 at 5:17 PM
Ep. 11 of IOTNBO, yea they got me lol I loved it
Valentina
July 18, 2020 at 8:58 AM
I was not ready for the end of IOTNBO ep 9
Mani-chan
July 18, 2020 at 9:01 AM
Ok now I’m scared
dee23
July 18, 2020 at 9:06 AM
right?! I was like, “That escalated quickly.”
Eazal
July 18, 2020 at 3:48 PM
Neither me or the Universe…
Valentina
July 12, 2020 at 8:47 AM
IOTNBO ep8 (spoiler below)
Valentina
July 12, 2020 at 8:47 AM
I really dont appreciate that amount of abuse and hitting Moon Young goes through and then everyone just acts like its okay, like thank goodness Gang Tae’s always there to comfort her but WTF is wrong with everyone else in the show??? no matter how much of a bitch they think Moon Young is, she doesn’t deserve to be choked out or hit
alasecond
July 12, 2020 at 11:10 AM
technically she hit the guy first..
and by your logic, no matter how much of an *** he is, no one gets to hit anyone
Valentina
July 12, 2020 at 11:24 AM
she hit the guy because he was about to hit the girl, she was defending her. Every time Moon Young has been attacked, its been her protecting someone or completely unprovoked. Thats the difference
alasecond
July 12, 2020 at 1:56 PM
same then.. he hit her back because she hit him, he was defending himself
Every time MY has been attacked – if you think editor deserved to be hit in ep 7, i can’t agree with you
alasecond
July 12, 2020 at 1:57 PM
There is no difference.. and if that were the logic then people could go around doing whatever in name of defense
alasecond
July 12, 2020 at 2:01 PM
you think that photographer deserved it because he was making sexual insinuations..
What has she been doing with KT?
Editor exerts force to take her out of the house because she is having nightmares and it really unsettles her, he deserved her hitting him.. then what about her pulling KT
Just so many so so many such instances… KT shouldn’t take care of ST anymore, but hers? .. while she with her flaws is charming right now, it does not mean that she is not dangerous or always justified.. justifying all her actions is nothing less than raising and conditioning her to be a brat
Valentina
July 12, 2020 at 6:24 PM
I literally have no idea what youre talking about and you’re clearly biased because you don’t like Moon Young, the point i am making is that Moon Young doesn’t deserve to be hit AND neglected. As a child she was choked by her dad and abused by her mom. As an adult, she has been choked by a patient, choked by her dad, slapped by Juri, slapped by this abuser…..all of the instances of her being hit has never been acknowledged by any one nor as anyone thought “oh that’s kind of fycked up” instead they’re all doing what you’re doing. You are justifying being hit because you think she deserves it
Valentina
July 12, 2020 at 6:32 PM
I wasnt even justifying Moon Youngs actions, all I said is that I don’t like that she gets hit like………
alasecond
July 13, 2020 at 12:51 AM
I am just replying to your points where you justify her violence..
it is not me biased towards her character (because i am atleast using the same yardstick to judge different characters).. if you have to call out bias, you should call out your bias
alasecond
July 13, 2020 at 12:54 AM
Only.. you didn’t make that point..
Your point to which i replied was about MY and the man she hit.. on one hand you were giving reasons for why MY was right, but those same reasons are some behavior patterns that she herself has displayed which you ignored and i was merely pointing that..
So yea.. not my bias…but yours..and definitely this particular discussion was not about her childhood .. it was about her present actions and validity of it
isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
July 12, 2020 at 9:08 PM
Seriously I say this or think this every week. At least this time GT was there to ask her if shes ok. She normally has to pick herself up and walk away on her own to lick her wounds. This hospital id the literal worse.
Valentina
July 6, 2020 at 4:35 PM
Wish there was a way I could set a notification for when the IOTNBO ep6 recap is posted, it is one I do not want to miss lol
Zora
July 6, 2020 at 8:05 PM
They post updates in Twitter 🙂
drawde2000
July 7, 2020 at 1:45 AM
Ep6 recap is now available
Valentina
July 5, 2020 at 9:07 AM
Episode 6 of IOTNBO was heavy from start to finish, like I\’m actually shaking. I was so immersed at the end……..just know I\’m looking forward to the discussion post
Valentina
July 4, 2020 at 2:29 PM
What I find really interesting is that MY just wants GT to smile at her while with everyone else, he\’s faking or he\’s told to stop smiling…..he doesn\’t even bother faking it with her
Valentina
July 4, 2020 at 2:30 PM
But omg imagine when he finally does smile at her T.T will probably be more impactful than the kiss lol
Valentina
June 27, 2020 at 12:36 PM
Watched IOTNBO ep3, and the writers have done a great job continuously showing how dangerous Moon Young could be not just to herself, but to others. I feel like if anyone is surprised…..
Valentina
June 27, 2020 at 12:37 PM
by her actions this episode then they might have been trying hard to deny the multiple times its been stated that she has antisocial personality disorder. You can like her, bc I do, but episode 3 is a start of how she can be and will potentially continue to be, so it’ll be interesting to see how they lead into the romance, if they even get there at all
Valentina
April 8, 2020 at 4:46 PM
Im actually convinced that the writers were on crack writing episode 3 (5/6) for Find Me In Your Memory
Valentina
December 19, 2019 at 7:13 PM
If there’s one trope I’ll always hate, it’s the “you got an abortion and now I no longer love you” some dramas love pulling now. Misty did it and so did Before We Get Married.
Valentina
December 19, 2019 at 7:15 PM
It’s like if the guy wants the abortion, sure it sucks for her, but the girl won’t stop loving him but if the girl wants it, she the most vile being in existence and is undeserving of love and respect after that. Hate it.
IamPilgrim
December 19, 2019 at 8:21 PM
Wasn’t Misty a somewhat different case? There was a lack of communication, right? She got an abortion without telling him, right? I’m not sure I’m remembering it right. But if that’s the case, it makes sense to me. At the end of the day, she gets to do whatever she wants to do – her body, her decision – but the baby is equally theirs so the other party isn’t wrong for being hurt, angry and betrayed. She should have told him at least. I’d immediately distrust my SO who makes such a big decision without telling me. It’s our baby, let’s discuss it. You’ll still end up going through with the abortion but at least, I had a heads up and I had time to process it.
People should really discuss these things before they get married.
Valentina
December 19, 2019 at 8:34 PM
Yea, Misty was more she wasn’t ready for a baby because of her career and they didn’t communicate but my point is how writers use that as a reason for the man to hate the woman, like it leaves such a bad taste in my mouth cause at the end of the day it’s her decision and the way he and his mom treated her like she was some kind of monster for what she did is what pissed me off. I guess as a woman I just feel more understanding and tolerant towards abortion and I don’t like it being used in that trope. Kinda ironic that he treated her like a murderer for “killing” their baby only for him to become one….it’s not like she never wanted to have a baby, she just didn’t want one then.
IamPilgrim
December 19, 2019 at 11:04 PM
I get that. I really do. A lot of times a woman who decided to get an abortion is treated like she’s a monster. I don’t like the sentiments behind it either.
On the other hand, there are also tropes that label men who don’t want their babies as being ‘dead-beat’ fathers. It’s kinda the same. Regardless of the woman’s choice, the man has to live with the decision whether or not he wants the kid.
The difference, though, is that the K-dramas always give them a redemption arc in which they meet their kid and bond.
I also see the similarities in matters of divorce. A woman who walks out without custody is made into the scariest demon after Satan himself. I
That’s just my observation.
Valentina
December 20, 2019 at 5:08 AM
Exactly! The men are always given redemption arcs. Women are just monsters and that’s it.
transient
December 19, 2019 at 10:15 PM
I don’t watch this drama, but I have a question about this issue:
What if she decided to inform him about the decision to go through the abortion but he decided he wanted to keep the baby? Won’t it put her in a position where she will be forced to carry the baby to term against her will, knowing how taxing pregnancy and labor is to a woman?
IamPilgrim
December 19, 2019 at 10:57 PM
That’s the thing though. These scenarios are not always black or white. I understand her not telling her husband. I don’t blame her. She didn’t want to have to be convinced to keep the baby especially because in this scenario, there was no indication that it was about having the baby. It was more of the timing.
At the same time, I don’t blame the husband for being mad at her. That’s why discussion is key. Having such conversations before marriage is key and having a dialogue is always key.
At the end of the day, it’s the woman’s decision. She can decide to keep the baby irregardless of the external opinions but it’d be difficult to say she can’t be pressured into keeping a baby she doesn’t want.
transient
December 20, 2019 at 12:40 AM
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transient
December 20, 2019 at 12:47 AM
Thanks for the reply. I agree with what you said, especially about it being the woman’s decision.
However, depending on which part of the world the woman is in (take my Southeast Asian country for example), sometimes, she did not get to choose at all. So in such situation, I understand her motivation to do what she did.
Valentina
December 17, 2019 at 4:15 PM
I have been having the worst, and I mean the WORST, case of drama slump I\’ve ever had. Like nothing keeps my attention and after like 5-10mins I get bored of a drama & don\’t feel the need to continue.
Valentina
December 17, 2019 at 4:19 PM
That being said, through this struggle, I managed to binge-watch the 2018 remake of Rich Man, Poor Woman in 2 days and enjoyed every moment of it, so either the drama isn’t as bad as people made it seem or there’s something wrong with me lmao
Could the acting have been better in some parts? absolutely, but I genuinely enjoyed the ride and wish it was longer
Ainos
December 17, 2019 at 6:47 PM
I get like that from time to time. That’s when I try to watch other tv such as western tv or anime. Or you could rewatch old Kdramas. That helps me sometimes. I tend to watch something again and recognize actors I didn’t know when I originally watched it and then find their other works and fall in love with Kdramas again.
Valentina
November 3, 2019 at 6:16 PM
I’m watching HIStory 3: Make Our days count and I love it so much 😭 I’ve rewatched every episode at least 5 times. I think it’s the only drama really keeping entertained through this slump
Valentina
November 3, 2019 at 6:17 PM
This one episode a week is not cutting it
Trinity 🍆
November 3, 2019 at 6:35 PM
It’s why I’ll be patient and wait until it’s done airing 😁
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
November 3, 2019 at 6:55 PM
I will wait till it’s finished. I will wait till it’s finished. I will wait till it’s finished.
Trinity 🍆
November 4, 2019 at 9:26 AM
Keep chanting and maybe it will work!
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent and reminded of the slow march of death
November 4, 2019 at 10:16 AM
It has so far!
Honestly, there’s something about these writers that make me want to watch the next episode – even with Trapped when it was completely going off the rails. 45 minutes a week can be excruciating.
Lixie
November 4, 2019 at 5:21 AM
I’m liking the idea but nerdy boy seems to be so stiff, lacks expressions. And starving. Why cast him? Secondary characters over the top.
Valentina
November 4, 2019 at 7:45 AM
the nerdy boy is acting his character as is lol he is supposed to be starving cause he doesn’t eat. he’s malnourished cause he’s poor. But the 5 min preview shows that as he and the “bully” fall in love, he opens up a lot more
Lixie
November 4, 2019 at 9:10 AM
Yes, but in 2 eps he’s had so many chances to be more than starving boy. Dramatic scenes like when he is cornered by the classmates, when he is begging to do the test, when he is asking for another job, but all he shows is indifferent or angry, and lots of hunger. Even bully, who has not much to work with, has a bigger range of emotions.
Valentina
November 4, 2019 at 3:49 PM
the end of episode 3, he actually finally explodes
Valentina
October 6, 2019 at 4:40 PM
My Country ep. 2
Valentina
October 4, 2019 at 11:27 AM
My Country was given a BUDGET! and Seolhyun is doing even better than I thought. I was watching for her and Jang Hyuk and she snapped a bit
Valentina
October 2, 2019 at 8:48 AM
I’ve been watching this chinese drama and besides how corny the first 5 episodes were, its actually really good. Its a little like Jang Bo Ri but without the excessive theatrics
Ayan
October 2, 2019 at 11:45 AM
What is the name of the drama?
Valentina
October 2, 2019 at 2:11 PM
Nice to meet you
Valentina
September 29, 2019 at 5:02 PM
My Country is taking too long to start, im stressed lol I havent looked forward to a drama like this in a while
Ally
September 29, 2019 at 7:58 PM
You and me both! Just 4 more days!
Valentina
September 21, 2019 at 9:54 PM
I liked Suzy in WYWS, but in Vagabond, this is one of those moments where a stronger actress would\’ve done the character justice
Valentina
September 21, 2019 at 10:55 AM
Incredibly bored not being interested in a drama since HDL ended. Hopefully Our Country changes that since thats the only one catching my attention