characters, instead of declaring things, are truly trying to go deeper into who someone is, their choices and logic. they are sort of reviewing their own behavior too. they also don´t wail or steam with anger or feel entitled, instead they are concentrating on the positive and how they can grow or move forward. but tbh I dont like the older brother. yet.
SP0ILER ALERT:
LOL, but when it was bad, it was very, very bad. I will give the writers (because there had to be more than one, maybe even AI was employed) credit. They were consistent. The serious scenes between the two couples and painter were quite good. The comedic scenes especially where an over indulgence in alcohol were involved were generally not good. Two exceptions. 1. In the last episode the confrontation between Jun-won and Mom I think would have been better if he was sober at the time with the same heart breaking dialogue. He did a bit of a backslide when he sobered up. 2. The scene of the boys taking Mom on an impromptu excursion was quite funny from scooping up Mom to having her help push the car.
Credit must go to the folks responsible for the music. Excellent OST.
I would add a “would that it were” #3 to that list: I very much wish the boys hadn’t shown up and dragged the girls away from a drunken carousing session with Mom, rocking out to instrumental music, wine, soju and beer…. 😉
I loved a good 50% of this show better than any other serious-leaning rom-com I’ve ever seen. I will just remember those parts!
I would agree with #3. (I wonder how many takes that scene (dragging them away) took lol?) Btw, I counted the bottles on the table that the girls knocked back at their Somaek session: 10 (presumably 5 large bottles of beer and 5 bottles of soju (didn’t catch the soju cap color). Whatever, a lot of alcohol.
That’s a real critique of the show for me! Almost all dramas have excessive and unreasonable drinking scenes, but this one was the absolute worst showing quantities of drinking that are actually deadly. I’m thinking mainly of the first “I’ll drink you under the table” sequence with Ju-won and Seong-min. I think there were 4-6 bottles of HARD liquor on that table by the time the group was done. In the restaurant this week, it would appear that those two men sloshed back four entire bottles of wine. Frankly irresponsible representation, IMO.
If they got drunk, they were just people who could hold their liquor. If they only got slightly less sharp, … I have known people like that. One bottle would make me have to be rolled home in a wheel barrow. But for a lot of people, two bottles is just slightly more than their usual goodnight cap.
I’m laughing because of second-hand embarrassment while watching the karaoke sequence in episode 9.
And I’m sure the actors were cracking themselves up too.
That was excruciating. Watching on mute was the only way I could get through it. Noraebang scenes, if they must happen, should either feature someone unexpectedly singing beautifully (Yoon Hyun-min in Bora!) or last 10 seconds, tops. And Lee Hyun-woo can sing, dammit! Wasted opportunity right there.
Despite the drunk scene, I actually thought this last episode was one of the better happy ending/wrap up episodes I’ve seen. The mother’s opposition was successfully resolved–unlike many villainous kdrama mothers, she was shown to actually love her sons but she wasn’t beyond somehow turning the marriage to the advantage of her company, so she didn’t transform unrealistically. Meanwhile, the FL showed how smart she was–and for me, that’s what made this show, the intelligence of the female lead–by not taking so much offense at the mother in law’s proposal that she didn’t turn it to her own advantage. Her workaholic nature wasn’t glossed over, and so there were real life tensions about wedding planning — yet you didn’t get the feeling that a divorce was in the offing after only a year of marriage, because there was a heartfelt redeclaration of love between the characters that seemed totally earned. As for the rest of the plot, there was no rushed summary of events, the wedding and the happy ever after seemed totally justified and the voiceover did not give a pretentious moral of the story, more a “fairytales can come true” lesson which totally fit the unambitious and low-key nature of the story. It was actually a pretty sweet show in the end, one I don’t regret watching at all.
I quite liked this entire drama, Fairy Godfather (again…this time for Ju-won!!!) and all. And I was serious above that I’ll almost certainly only remember the parts that were simply outstanding. One of these parts, as you so carefully point out, was the characterization of Yoon-seo…who was one of the most complex, sophisticated women I’ve seen in K-dramas to date.
And they even made fun of her tacit female-can-do-know-wrong beatification there when the light shone through the window and Ju-won and Ji-seok had to shield their eyes from her glory. That was simply perfection. Perfection.
As for the mom, I adored the way both her daughters-in-law saw her as a whole woman and showed that woman to her sons. It’s hard to turn that corner. That it had to be the girls’ job was, slightly tedious, but hey…we never usually talk about it at all, so I’ll take it. But what I really think that might have all been about is that scene where MSM and Yoon Park pick her up and carry her playfully out of the house for a road trip–who wouldn’t want to be her in that moment?? 😉
Seon-ha
September 23, 2024 at 5:52 AM
When it was good, it was very, very good… Cinderella at 2AM, episode 10.
redfox
September 23, 2024 at 6:49 AM
I actually find this drama pretty good.
Seon-ha
September 23, 2024 at 7:10 AM
Cool! What do you like best about it? What do you think it’s doing well?
redfox
September 23, 2024 at 1:05 PM
characters, instead of declaring things, are truly trying to go deeper into who someone is, their choices and logic. they are sort of reviewing their own behavior too. they also don´t wail or steam with anger or feel entitled, instead they are concentrating on the positive and how they can grow or move forward. but tbh I dont like the older brother. yet.
Seon-ha
September 23, 2024 at 2:01 PM
He is pretty annoying until the very last episode, IMO, but then he garners some charisma…through the exact mechanism you detail! 👍
bong-soo
September 23, 2024 at 7:33 AM
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bong-soo
September 23, 2024 at 7:34 AM
I should have started with SP0ILER ALERT.
bong-soo
September 23, 2024 at 7:45 AM
SP0ILER ALERT:
LOL, but when it was bad, it was very, very bad. I will give the writers (because there had to be more than one, maybe even AI was employed) credit. They were consistent. The serious scenes between the two couples and painter were quite good. The comedic scenes especially where an over indulgence in alcohol were involved were generally not good. Two exceptions. 1. In the last episode the confrontation between Jun-won and Mom I think would have been better if he was sober at the time with the same heart breaking dialogue. He did a bit of a backslide when he sobered up. 2. The scene of the boys taking Mom on an impromptu excursion was quite funny from scooping up Mom to having her help push the car.
Credit must go to the folks responsible for the music. Excellent OST.
Seon-ha
September 23, 2024 at 8:02 AM
The OST is amazing, I completely agree.
I would add a “would that it were” #3 to that list: I very much wish the boys hadn’t shown up and dragged the girls away from a drunken carousing session with Mom, rocking out to instrumental music, wine, soju and beer…. 😉
I loved a good 50% of this show better than any other serious-leaning rom-com I’ve ever seen. I will just remember those parts!
bong-soo
September 23, 2024 at 8:15 AM
I would agree with #3. (I wonder how many takes that scene (dragging them away) took lol?) Btw, I counted the bottles on the table that the girls knocked back at their Somaek session: 10 (presumably 5 large bottles of beer and 5 bottles of soju (didn’t catch the soju cap color). Whatever, a lot of alcohol.
Seon-ha
September 23, 2024 at 8:19 AM
That’s a real critique of the show for me! Almost all dramas have excessive and unreasonable drinking scenes, but this one was the absolute worst showing quantities of drinking that are actually deadly. I’m thinking mainly of the first “I’ll drink you under the table” sequence with Ju-won and Seong-min. I think there were 4-6 bottles of HARD liquor on that table by the time the group was done. In the restaurant this week, it would appear that those two men sloshed back four entire bottles of wine. Frankly irresponsible representation, IMO.
bong-soo
September 23, 2024 at 8:43 AM
Totally absurd. It begs the question. are the writers all teetotalers who never drank alcohol or are they super high functioning alcoholics?
DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
September 24, 2024 at 2:45 PM
If they got drunk, they were just people who could hold their liquor. If they only got slightly less sharp, … I have known people like that. One bottle would make me have to be rolled home in a wheel barrow. But for a lot of people, two bottles is just slightly more than their usual goodnight cap.
Seon-ha
September 24, 2024 at 3:50 PM
I guess the Danes drink the kerosene when the liquor runs out, then?? 😂
Two bottles of wine, much less two bottles of whiskey, is not liver-salve.
Isa is always time travelling
September 23, 2024 at 8:07 AM
I’m laughing because of second-hand embarrassment while watching the karaoke sequence in episode 9.
And I’m sure the actors were cracking themselves up too.
Seon-ha
September 23, 2024 at 8:11 AM
That was supremely horribly cringey. 😂 Yoon-seo (or was it Shin Hyun-bin??) was an excellent stand-in for my **eeeek what is happening** feeling!!!
Isa is always time travelling
September 23, 2024 at 8:27 AM
Supremely horribly cringey is accurate 😅😂
The truth is I was feeling a mixture of tenderness, shame and pity for the actors.
Elinor, Team Glasses team co-captain
September 23, 2024 at 10:10 AM
That was excruciating. Watching on mute was the only way I could get through it. Noraebang scenes, if they must happen, should either feature someone unexpectedly singing beautifully (Yoon Hyun-min in Bora!) or last 10 seconds, tops. And Lee Hyun-woo can sing, dammit! Wasted opportunity right there.
Seon-ha
September 23, 2024 at 10:19 AM
I’d actually welcome that “K-Drama Treasure Hunt,” frankly: “Find those examples where people, unexpectedly, kick ass at noraebang.”
Then we could demand timestamps and go listen. Lee Sang-yi in HometownCha3. Rowoon in DWY…
hacja
September 23, 2024 at 12:29 PM
Despite the drunk scene, I actually thought this last episode was one of the better happy ending/wrap up episodes I’ve seen. The mother’s opposition was successfully resolved–unlike many villainous kdrama mothers, she was shown to actually love her sons but she wasn’t beyond somehow turning the marriage to the advantage of her company, so she didn’t transform unrealistically. Meanwhile, the FL showed how smart she was–and for me, that’s what made this show, the intelligence of the female lead–by not taking so much offense at the mother in law’s proposal that she didn’t turn it to her own advantage. Her workaholic nature wasn’t glossed over, and so there were real life tensions about wedding planning — yet you didn’t get the feeling that a divorce was in the offing after only a year of marriage, because there was a heartfelt redeclaration of love between the characters that seemed totally earned. As for the rest of the plot, there was no rushed summary of events, the wedding and the happy ever after seemed totally justified and the voiceover did not give a pretentious moral of the story, more a “fairytales can come true” lesson which totally fit the unambitious and low-key nature of the story. It was actually a pretty sweet show in the end, one I don’t regret watching at all.
Seon-ha
September 23, 2024 at 1:08 PM
I quite liked this entire drama, Fairy Godfather (again…this time for Ju-won!!!) and all. And I was serious above that I’ll almost certainly only remember the parts that were simply outstanding. One of these parts, as you so carefully point out, was the characterization of Yoon-seo…who was one of the most complex, sophisticated women I’ve seen in K-dramas to date.
And they even made fun of her tacit female-can-do-know-wrong beatification there when the light shone through the window and Ju-won and Ji-seok had to shield their eyes from her glory. That was simply perfection. Perfection.
As for the mom, I adored the way both her daughters-in-law saw her as a whole woman and showed that woman to her sons. It’s hard to turn that corner. That it had to be the girls’ job was, slightly tedious, but hey…we never usually talk about it at all, so I’ll take it. But what I really think that might have all been about is that scene where MSM and Yoon Park pick her up and carry her playfully out of the house for a road trip–who wouldn’t want to be her in that moment?? 😉
DK-Drama ❤️🎄 Giffing n Space Cadetting 👼🏻🌟
September 24, 2024 at 2:41 PM
😮😟😢😢😭😭😭 A plant!?! 🪴 No! 😭😭😭