Wei Ying’s name was already in the mud at that time. During the sects’ meeting at the Carp Tower, he was accused on creating the fierce corpse and many other crimes. Only Lan Zhan and Mianmian defended him. LZ’s uncle was furious that LZ let WY escape at Qiongqi(in ep 27, the one where WY led Wen Qing and rest of Wen survivors escape) and reprimanded him. But he didn’t punished him then.
So Lan Zhan is not supposed to fraternize with WY who is deemed to have gone to the dark side. No one knew he visited Yiling of course but you know how Lan Zhan is? He must have done it on his own accord – seeking punishment.
I feel like the story skipped some important steps and others that would have been very amusing. The sister went from getting closer to Jixuan to completely ignoring JC banning the younger brother she loved so much. Unless her thoughts will still come up next ep, but since a time skip happened I don’t think it will go there.
I liked the scene uncle scolded LZ and wished for more of that, that older brother totally knows his reasons, where are the nice small chats they could have had? We don’t even know if LZ confessed he visited Yiling or if he just left without permission. Or his brother reaction to it. It all seems like censorship, we can’t think this is a guy missing his love interest, no, it’s just loyal friendship.
Firstly, they don’t need to show LZ admitting he visited WY. I supposed that might made it clear but we are to deduce it because that’s very characteristic of LZ. And it actually makes his later actions a lot more significant. I won’t spoil further.
Lan Xichen is watching his brother and he’s concerned. That’s shown and you will see that LXC is one person who understands his brother most and it’s not without reason we call him the biggest shipper of LZ and WY. Again, you will see that in coming eps.
It all seems like censorship, we can’t think this is a guy missing his love interest, no, it’s just loyal friendship
I think if you have this POV, it’s going to be hard to watch or understand the relationship between LZ and WY. The entire show screams that it is more than a friendship in how the lines are cleverly scripted, directed, other characters’ reactions and most of all, how the two actors conveyed it all in their acting. The only thing they can’t do and did not do is to state it explicitly in the drama, for obvious reasons.
When I said all, I meant these little details. Scenes that seem they should have been there.
I don’t mean their relationship of course. Like I said before, up until 29 they did an excellent job portraying their feelings while still avoiding the censors. I can’t comment about later.
This was adapted from the novel, and the novel didn’t go into this much depth of the past as the drama did. The novel was written in the present day with flash-backs interspersed through-out, rather than all in the past before going to the present like the drama. And some of the things of the past are learned from others telling WWX what happened rather then from his memory. It was all from WWX PoV so things that happened to LZ when WWX wasn’t around is what he learned from others telling him. This isn’t really about the censors so much as this was how the novel was. The drama did a good job filling us in about what happened in the past and diverges drastically at times from the novel to fill in the parts that the novel never talked about.
As for the sister, one of the things I love that the drama expanded on was her. She had almost no presence in the novel except for a couple scenes.
But ultimately, LZ had been grounded (remember how his uncle made him revise all the Lan sect rules? That was essentially grounding him) and he snuck away to Yiling to see WWX. That’s what he was punished for. And knowing LZ character he was probably the one who admitted what he did and asked for punishment.
I guess it was me wishing they had improved the novel a bit more ehehehe.
There are parts I keep trying to find in the novel, like the Sunshot battle and it’s not there. I find the past and present shifts in the novel rather confusing sometimes.
@lixie Very little is spoken of the Sunshot campaign in the novel. You learn about most of the Sunshot campaign from Nie Mingjue’s perspective that dealt with Jin Guang Yao. Outside of those parts all you know otherwise is that WWX and LZ typically worked together but they were always arguing with each other (because LZ was worried so was trying to get WWX off the path he was on) which causes everyone (including WWX) to assume LZ hated him. And that WWX would dig up corpses all the time and raised a huge army to fight, and it was him who won most of the war because of this.
And I personally preferred how the drama did it where all of the past was done at once and then you moved to the present timeline. Instead of the random interruptions to delve into the past like in the novel. Didn’t feel as smooth as the drama.
@trinpie
Yes, me too! I thought the same countless times, the drama choice was much better in that aspect. I guess that’s it for me looking for that part when LZ plays for 3 days waiting for WWX to awake, finally finds him and says nothing and starts playing again. Such a funny and sweet scene.
Again, thanks for all your explanations they really make it more interesting! 🙂
@trinpie What do we do without you? You are the BEST!
@lixie trinpie is the person to go to when you have questions.She’s read the novel inside out, watched the drama at least twice(?) and she remembers all the details!
I’ve only read 10% of the novel but I intend to read the entire thing soon.
@outofthisworld D’awww ❤️☺️ I sometimes feel like I probably come off as that annoying ‘know-it-all’. For whatever reason, the drama and novel is very vivid in my memory and surprised how well I remember them, especially with how fast I read and watched them. I guess they both had such a huge impact on me that I remember them so well.
We need someone who is like a walking encyclopedia of everything Untamed. There’s a lot of details in this story and drama. Thankfully they are mostly coherent so watching it is very satisfying.
Hi @trinpie
Is there any chapters in the novel that explain the things from LZ PoV ?
I read a number of chapters (not from the first chapter 60-100 so far). I would probably read it all during my holiday…
Lixie
November 5, 2019 at 5:14 AM
The Untamed ep 29
A small question.
When LZ comes back from the visit to Yiling he gets punished by kneeling during a song. Why? Unauthorized visit?
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
November 5, 2019 at 6:11 AM
Wei Ying’s name was already in the mud at that time. During the sects’ meeting at the Carp Tower, he was accused on creating the fierce corpse and many other crimes. Only Lan Zhan and Mianmian defended him. LZ’s uncle was furious that LZ let WY escape at Qiongqi(in ep 27, the one where WY led Wen Qing and rest of Wen survivors escape) and reprimanded him. But he didn’t punished him then.
So Lan Zhan is not supposed to fraternize with WY who is deemed to have gone to the dark side. No one knew he visited Yiling of course but you know how Lan Zhan is? He must have done it on his own accord – seeking punishment.
Lixie
November 5, 2019 at 6:58 AM
I feel like the story skipped some important steps and others that would have been very amusing. The sister went from getting closer to Jixuan to completely ignoring JC banning the younger brother she loved so much. Unless her thoughts will still come up next ep, but since a time skip happened I don’t think it will go there.
I liked the scene uncle scolded LZ and wished for more of that, that older brother totally knows his reasons, where are the nice small chats they could have had? We don’t even know if LZ confessed he visited Yiling or if he just left without permission. Or his brother reaction to it. It all seems like censorship, we can’t think this is a guy missing his love interest, no, it’s just loyal friendship.
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
November 5, 2019 at 7:21 AM
@lixie
Firstly, they don’t need to show LZ admitting he visited WY. I supposed that might made it clear but we are to deduce it because that’s very characteristic of LZ. And it actually makes his later actions a lot more significant. I won’t spoil further.
Lan Xichen is watching his brother and he’s concerned. That’s shown and you will see that LXC is one person who understands his brother most and it’s not without reason we call him the biggest shipper of LZ and WY. Again, you will see that in coming eps.
I think if you have this POV, it’s going to be hard to watch or understand the relationship between LZ and WY. The entire show screams that it is more than a friendship in how the lines are cleverly scripted, directed, other characters’ reactions and most of all, how the two actors conveyed it all in their acting. The only thing they can’t do and did not do is to state it explicitly in the drama, for obvious reasons.
Lixie
November 5, 2019 at 8:02 AM
When I said all, I meant these little details. Scenes that seem they should have been there.
I don’t mean their relationship of course. Like I said before, up until 29 they did an excellent job portraying their feelings while still avoiding the censors. I can’t comment about later.
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
November 5, 2019 at 8:18 AM
Okay, I probably misread you again. I can be slow or not getting it at all.
Lixie
November 5, 2019 at 9:29 AM
It’s ok I didn’t explain properly.
Trinity 🍆
November 5, 2019 at 9:04 AM
This was adapted from the novel, and the novel didn’t go into this much depth of the past as the drama did. The novel was written in the present day with flash-backs interspersed through-out, rather than all in the past before going to the present like the drama. And some of the things of the past are learned from others telling WWX what happened rather then from his memory. It was all from WWX PoV so things that happened to LZ when WWX wasn’t around is what he learned from others telling him. This isn’t really about the censors so much as this was how the novel was. The drama did a good job filling us in about what happened in the past and diverges drastically at times from the novel to fill in the parts that the novel never talked about.
As for the sister, one of the things I love that the drama expanded on was her. She had almost no presence in the novel except for a couple scenes.
But ultimately, LZ had been grounded (remember how his uncle made him revise all the Lan sect rules? That was essentially grounding him) and he snuck away to Yiling to see WWX. That’s what he was punished for. And knowing LZ character he was probably the one who admitted what he did and asked for punishment.
Lixie
November 5, 2019 at 9:43 AM
I guess it was me wishing they had improved the novel a bit more ehehehe.
There are parts I keep trying to find in the novel, like the Sunshot battle and it’s not there. I find the past and present shifts in the novel rather confusing sometimes.
Trinity 🍆
November 5, 2019 at 12:42 PM
@lixie Very little is spoken of the Sunshot campaign in the novel. You learn about most of the Sunshot campaign from Nie Mingjue’s perspective that dealt with Jin Guang Yao. Outside of those parts all you know otherwise is that WWX and LZ typically worked together but they were always arguing with each other (because LZ was worried so was trying to get WWX off the path he was on) which causes everyone (including WWX) to assume LZ hated him. And that WWX would dig up corpses all the time and raised a huge army to fight, and it was him who won most of the war because of this.
And I personally preferred how the drama did it where all of the past was done at once and then you moved to the present timeline. Instead of the random interruptions to delve into the past like in the novel. Didn’t feel as smooth as the drama.
Lixie
November 5, 2019 at 2:42 PM
@trinpie
Yes, me too! I thought the same countless times, the drama choice was much better in that aspect. I guess that’s it for me looking for that part when LZ plays for 3 days waiting for WWX to awake, finally finds him and says nothing and starts playing again. Such a funny and sweet scene.
Again, thanks for all your explanations they really make it more interesting! 🙂
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
November 6, 2019 at 12:32 AM
@trinpie What do we do without you? You are the BEST!
@lixie trinpie is the person to go to when you have questions.She’s read the novel inside out, watched the drama at least twice(?) and she remembers all the details!
I’ve only read 10% of the novel but I intend to read the entire thing soon.
Trinity 🍆
November 6, 2019 at 8:29 AM
@outofthisworld D’awww ❤️☺️ I sometimes feel like I probably come off as that annoying ‘know-it-all’. For whatever reason, the drama and novel is very vivid in my memory and surprised how well I remember them, especially with how fast I read and watched them. I guess they both had such a huge impact on me that I remember them so well.
outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
November 6, 2019 at 9:11 AM
@trinpie How can you think that?
We need someone who is like a walking encyclopedia of everything Untamed. There’s a lot of details in this story and drama. Thankfully they are mostly coherent so watching it is very satisfying.
persianrose❤️战哥
November 15, 2019 at 1:47 PM
Hi @trinpie
Is there any chapters in the novel that explain the things from LZ PoV ?
I read a number of chapters (not from the first chapter 60-100 so far). I would probably read it all during my holiday…
Trinity 🍆
November 15, 2019 at 5:41 PM
@persianrose not really. You might get a couple sentences here and there but the book was pretty much all from WWX pov