I think we need to have this:
Who get’s the most correct stats for which @yyishere level’s up from Errand boy status?
Tell us your guess or your calculations!
*Competition closes when she level’s up!

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    Tagging all following this journey: (aka YY’s crazy beanies out there)

    @egads @pakalanapikake @wishfultoki @katakwasabi @bbstl @parkchuna @ndlessjoie @outofthisworld

    @coffeprince4eva @bcampbell1662

    @cloggie @sicarius @azzo1 @ally-le @anothernicole

    @bea818 @oppafangirl @korfan @kiara @hebang

    @growingbeautifully @kethysk @13infamyss @hotcocoagirl

    @snarkyjellyfish

    @stpauligurl @moomoomoondog

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      The only thing I can say by looking at her stats it that it will take me another 2 years to level up 🙁

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        oh no! 🙁 But there is an algo and its working perfectly fine, so we all will soon level up 🙂 , when did you last level up?

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          Months and months ago! But i am mostly active on my wall so I think that’s where the problem is.

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            And that, my fellow beanies, is why I comment and upvote everything. I think the last time I leveled up was last year!

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      I think she’ll level up soon if she comments on articles and recaps a few times. I was mostly on the fan wall but managed anyway. I say she’ll level up at 11,000 upvotes, but sooner if she just comments 10-20 times on articles and recaps.

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        I also think so! I am thinking of doing this experiment for my errand boy level, commenting a lot on recaps, I hope I will be watching more shows soon and they are going to be recapped.

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      Honestly I think she’s pretty close. I left errand boy from what I remember around 10k likes. It’s all about activity and she has been pretty active.

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    i feel like this is a slow process of elimination….like now we know it’s a lot more than likes, frequency, and the fan wall. they wrote some kind of crazy nuclear-codes algorithm for sure!

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      in my nerdiest heart of heart, this is my conclusion: the ticket is to post frequent, original comments on articles. not just replies to other’s comments, but your own reply. and to have those comments generate some discussion, which means that they probably need to be towards the top of the thread…just because beanies tend to interact with earlier comments more. i think than fanwall posts add something, follows and likes add something, but the comments seem to bear the most weight to me. (i know i am taking this waaaaay too seriously—that’s my charm yall lololol —- but my other option was to spend my time fretting over why my three year old wont potty train and wonder when daycare will kick him out because of it :P)

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        Lol! The struggle is real with potty training! Sometimes it helps just going cold turkey. No pull ups, no underwear, no pants for a day or two over a weekend. House arrest and clean up after him when he has accidents. He’ll figure it out.

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          Second the cold turkey approach. It’s brutal in the moment, but can be highly effective. I also was not opposed to blatant bribery and rewards. Good luck!

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            This economist thought he could train his toddler using the reward method. A candy each time she went potty instead of the diaper. It worked for three whole days. Then this toddler who had no control previously, learned to go potty a few dribbles at a time, asking for a candy reward for each dribble. I was impressed – by the toddler.

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            @hebang, one must try to stay smarter than the toddler. This is difficult. I found more long term, but easily understood, goals were the ticket. And gradually increasing the goal line along the way. The rewards also needed to be tailored to each child. For instance one was a sucker for new clothing items or a toy, whereas, another responded to cold hard cash. Interestingly, these reward preferences still hold true for them as young adults, though I no longer reward their potty habits.

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          @ally-le @egads @hebang thanks you guys <3 i know a little about this cold turkey approach– a few people have recommended it to me — and at this point i think im willing to try it. nothing else has worked. we are unabashedly bribing him, and that sometimes works, but i think maybe we need pantless+bribes now. le sigh

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        I’m not sure you need that many original comments on articles and agree that you probably need to comment places other than the fanwall.

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        Just going to throw in my two cents: I feel like commenting on articles can’t be that important because I almost never comment on articles. I mostly just post on my fanwall and comment on other’s posts and I still managed to level up to Entertainer in Training 🤷‍♀️

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          You have some formidable stats!

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          Compare my stats and raonah’s and you’ll see the difference in posting on articles—which is where I usually post. And yes, her stats are much greater than mine.

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            Do you remember when you leveled up? For me it was June 19th and at the time I had 13,463 comments and 34,049 likes. Maybe that will help us see if article comments are weighted more heavily than fanwall posts.

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            I promoted to Entertainer-in-training on Feb 25, 2019, with 8193 comments and 25512 likes.

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            It seems like article comments are more important than fanwall posts then. I noticed you also follow/are followed by about 50 more people than I am. I wonder if that has an effect too 🤔

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          And yet it’s the only explanation for why Paka is higher than me that I can find? Also I notice I tend to level up consistently if my activity there and in gener is high.
          What I’d like to do, cos I do have the stats for this now, is track how many comments Paka and I commented on recaps between fan club president and unemployed slacker, and maybe even work out a rough rate of posting. However, I still have no way to access our comments on other people’s walls.

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            If you ever get it figured out, let us know. I think it will always be a mystery to me.

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            Thoughts on Leveling Up on DB

            Part 1 of 2

            Aside from the recent flurry of Errand Boy Girl mass lunacy activity on @yyishere‘s fan wall (which for me has been absolutely massive) and a few other occasions, I post fan wall comments comparatively rarely. I didn’t even know how to do it for a long time. In the recap threads, discussion of the recently-premiered part 3 of ARTHDAL CHRONICLES has also been brisk.

            My statistics as of this moment (09/16/19 EDT @1858):

            follows: 13
            followed by: 132
            posts/comments: 12,626
            thumbs up: 17,844

            I have not been posting much in 2019 until recently as many of the shows I’ve been watching have not been recapped, and

            (1) thus had no fixed officially-designated places to discuss them (JOSEON SURVIVAL; LOVE AFFAIRS IN THE AFTERNOON; Cdrama BEFORE WE GET MARRIED). In lieu of an official recap thread, I prefer to discuss in What We’re Watching rather than Open Thread, but I still end up in OT anyway;

            or, (2) shows were eventually wee-capped, but the lag time was too great for me to strike while the iron was hot while I still recalled what I had seen due to watching other shows;

            (3) I couldn’t comment in a timely fashion to participate in active discussions (although I usually don’t care, and post anyway);

            (4) I’ve been watching far fewer dramas this year than in 2018 (when I set a personal record of 39 live-watches, IIRC, in addition to older shows and movies);

            My viewing has decreased in 2019 because:

            (A) I’ve become pickier about starting to watch dramas after quite a few shows ended unsatisfactorily in 2018;

            (B) I’ve been under the weather and resting more;

            (C) Some of the shows I’ve been watching have left me wrung out (even in a good way, such as HAECHI and NOKDU FLOWER), or frustrated / let down / cranky (CROWNED CLOWN, ABSOLUTE BOYFRIEND, ANGEL’S LAST MISSION: LOVE; and JOSEON SURVIVAL – whose subtitles were summarily discontinued after a cast change);

            (D) NOKDU FLOWER had been recapped in the beginning, but was discontinued. Alas, it premiered before HAECHI ended, so I couldn’t pay as much attention or comment early on. I got overwhelmed with my voluminous background research, and gave up trying to organize and post it. The subject matter of the show was mentally and emotionally draining at times, while the production and performances were absolutely topnotch;

            (E) KINGDOM and ARTHDAL CHRONICLES premiered while I was already avidly watching other shows, and I couldn’t focus on them as well as I would have liked. Both have aired partial seasons, which has been distracting. Since the return of ARTHDAL, I’m again posting essays;

            (F) I haven’t been commenting on LET ME HEAR YOUR SONG in its wee-caps. Today at long last I posted my Rampant Speculations (TM) in the eps. 21-24 thread.

            – Continued –

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            Part 2 of 2

            Boring Statistics:

            http://www.dramabeans.com/members/sicarius/activity/815856/#acomment-816003

            PakalanaPikake
            June 30, 2019 at 12:10 AM

            Here you go, @sicarius.

            I’m afraid I can’t be of much help. These are all the statistics I have, which ain’t much. I was clueless about levels and didn’t pay any attention to them for the longest time. I had no idea what a “Jang Geu Rae” was because I started out watching sageuks. A light shone in Marblehead when I finally watched MISAENG. LOL!

            Current Stats:

            Unemployed Slacker In A Sparkly Tracksuit as of 07/17/19 @1445 EDT
            following 13 – 130 followers – 12,085 posts/comments – 16,792 thumbs-up

            Fan Club President as of 06/30/19 @0240 Eastern Time
            following 13 – 131 followers – 11,896 posts/comments – 16,454 thumbs-up
            —

            Fan Club President as of 12/09/18 @1903 Eastern Time
            @10,134 posts/comments and 13,223 thumbs-up
            —

            Entertainer-In-Training as of 08/04/18 @1:33 PM, per @rukia
            at about 8,200 comments/posts and 9,300 thumbs-up

            as of 08/05/18 @0310:
            following 13 – 97 followers – 8,213 comments/posts – 9,418 thumbs-up

            http://www.dramabeans.com/2018/07/open-thread-561/#comment-3283166
            http://www.dramabeans.com/members/pakalanapikake/activity/570087/
            —

            Errand boy as of 08/03/17 @2040
            [I don’t know if this is the date I leveled up.]
            following 12 – followed by 39 – 2,922 comments – 1,210 thumbs up

            Addendum, 09/16/19:
            I started posting on DB in February, 2016 (in Open Thread).

            Those are some of the factors that I can think of that will affect the timing of my achieving the next level. But since I only moved up 2 months ago (07/17/19), I think it will be a while. 😉

            -30-

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            @pakalanapikake thanks Paka!
            If I remember correctly you leveled up to FCP at the beginning of the year and I was about two months? later. Same happened with UESIST- you levelled up in June ish and I levelled up at the end of August. I’ve been taking about 7-8 months to level up in these higher levels for the past several levels, so you may not think you’re active but you’re still ahead of me lol

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            @sicarius,
            It occurs to me that one of the stats that is not listed is # of Thumbs-Up Bestowed. I’m heavy-handed in my bestowal as I like to encourage discussion.

            I wonder if character count comes into play, because I often post full-blown essays, and then engage in similar discussions with other Beanies — which then go off on tangents. If we’re lucky, we somehow manage to relate the whole shebang back to the original topic, or at least Kdramas in general.

            I periodically go on music-posting binges on my fan wall. Sometimes they feature BGM from a particular drama, other times, I just get a yen to listen to vintage music and end up posting a virtual free-form playlist that has zilch to do with Kdrama.

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            Yes @pakalanapikake your word/character count has come to mind to me before hehehe. However given my 20k comment count and amount of times I’ve uhm broken the fanwall, I think we might be even there. But there’s no way to tell.

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            @sicarius does paka post more links on her fanwall than you? My levels are a lot lower of course (I am not worthy 😉 ), but I do remember at one point feeling like i was levelling up quicker when i started including gifs on my fanwall posts.

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            More links… probably hahaha I haven’t been posting many links at all since I stopped sharing kpop @anothernicole

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          ohhhhh super interesting. clearly i need to spend *even more time* investigating this 😉 i guess i was right: it really is a nuclear-code-level algorithm! there must be a lot of ways to meet the criteria…but WHY HASN’T YY??? perhaps we need less Alan Turing and more HERCULE POIROT.

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        I don’t kniw about generating discussions, but I agree about original comments.

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        No no this is a solid theory for what kinds of comments add more to it. And could be right.
        The reason I take so much notice of this in particular is that it may explain what @pakalanapikake does that I don’t on recap threads that means she levels up higher, despite me having thrice the normal stats of most beanies.
        If I don’t know what to say to someone on my original comment I tend to just post a random reply and move on rather than engaging in discussion. So good theory!

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